Re: [PR] feat: polish breadcrumb to display page title [comdev-site]

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clr-apache commented on PR #175:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/175#issuecomment-2381018943

   I'm not qualified to review this PR but I'm concerned about the apparent 
spam here.


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Re: [PR] Add LinkedIn to the social media list [comdev-working-groups]

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psychomanijak01 commented on code in PR #44:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/44#discussion_r1712951674


##
wg-social-media/README.md:
##
@@ -45,4 +47,5 @@ kind of guidelines or certification?
 * Fix or replace birthday.pl tool (in
   https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/tools) which generates the

Review Comment:
   Čau 



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Re: [PR] Add LinkedIn to the social media list [comdev-working-groups]

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psychomanijak01 commented on code in PR #44:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/44#discussion_r1712951674


##
wg-social-media/README.md:
##
@@ -45,4 +47,5 @@ kind of guidelines or certification?
 * Fix or replace birthday.pl tool (in
   https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/tools) which generates the

Review Comment:
   Čau 



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Re: [PR] Fix broken "newpmcmember" link [comdev-site]

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adityasharma7 merged PR #184:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/184


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Re: [PR] Fix broken "newpmcmember" link [comdev-site]

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potiuk commented on PR #184:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/184#issuecomment-2255064339

   Reverted. Can you please double-check and merge @sebbASF quite quickly ? The 
website is now broken without that fix.


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Re: [PR] Fix broken "newpmcmember" link [comdev-site]

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potiuk commented on code in PR #184:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/184#discussion_r1694662586


##
source/newpmcmember.md:
##
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 ---
 title: New PMC member
-tags: ["pmc", "pmcmembers", "election"]
+tags: ["pmc", "election"]

Review Comment:
   Sure No problem at all.



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Re: [PR] Fix broken "newpmcmember" link [comdev-site]

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sebbASF commented on code in PR #184:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/184#discussion_r1694344735


##
source/newpmcmember.md:
##
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 ---
 title: New PMC member
-tags: ["pmc", "pmcmembers", "election"]
+tags: ["pmc", "election"]

Review Comment:
   This is an unrelated change; please revert this part



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[PR] Fix broken "newpmcmember" link [comdev-site]

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potiuk opened a new pull request, #184:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/184

   The #183 split the committer invite into "committer/pmc member" but the link 
was broken.
   
   Tested with Hugo locally and it seems it works now.


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[PR] Add LinkedIn to the social media list [comdev-working-groups]

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rbowen opened a new pull request, #44:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/44

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Re: [PR] Add LinkedIn to the social media list [comdev-working-groups]

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rbowen merged PR #44:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/44


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Re: [PR] Add "why" for branding and licencing [comdev-working-groups]

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rbowen merged PR #43:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/43


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Re: [PR] Clarify and split new committer / new PMC member templates [comdev-site]

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tisonkun merged PR #183:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/183


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Re: [PR] Clarifies and split new committer / new PMC member templates [comdev-site]

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potiuk commented on PR #183:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/183#issuecomment-2227486596

   Comments resolved @clr-apache 


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Re: [PR] Clarifies and split new committer / new PMC member templates [comdev-site]

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potiuk commented on code in PR #183:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/183#discussion_r1677206564


##
source/newcommitter.md:
##
@@ -159,118 +167,136 @@ Other notes about the process are available on the main 
[Apache site](https://ww
 ### Committer Vote Template
 This is the email to commence a vote for a new committer.
 Some projects make committers PMC members automatically. If this is the case,
-merge this template with the following one (PMC Vote Template).
-  
+use the following one (Committer and PMC member candidate Vote Template).
+
 
 To: private@[PROJECT].apache.org
 Subject: [VOTE] New committer: Jo Bloggs
-
+
 [ add the reasons behind your nomination here ]
-
+
 Voting ends one week from today, i.e. midnight UTC on -MM-DD
 
https://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?year=&month=MM&day=DD
-
+
 See voting guidelines at
 https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html
-
+
 
 
-### PMC Vote Template
-This is the email to commence a vote for a new **PMC candidate**. New PMC 
members need
-to be voted for by the existing PMC members and subsequently approved by the 
Board
-(or Incubator PMC for incubating projects).
-
+### Committer and PMC member candidate Vote Template
+This is the email to commence a vote for new committer that is also candidate 
for a PMC member.
+
 
 To: private@[PROJECT].apache.org
-Subject: [VOTE] New PMC candidate: Jo Bloggs
-
+Subject: [VOTE] New Committer and PMC member candidate: Jo Bloggs
+
 [ add the reasons behind your nomination here ]
-
+
 Voting ends one week from today, i.e. midnight UTC on -MM-DD
 
https://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?year=&month=MM&day=DD
-
+
 See voting guidelines at
 https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html
-
-### Close Vote
+
+### Committer Close Vote
+This email ends the vote and reports the result to the project.
+
+
+To: private@[PROJECT].a.o
+Subject: [RESULT] [VOTE] New committer: Jo Bloggs
+
+The vote has now closed. The results are:
+
+Binding Votes:
+
++1 [TOTAL BINDING +1 VOTES]
+ 0 [TOTAL BINDING +0/-0 VOTES]
+-1 [TOTAL BINDING -1 VOTES]
+
+The vote is ***successful/not successful***
+
+### Committer and New PMC member candidate close Vote
 This email ends the vote and reports the result to the project.
-
+
 
 To: private@[PROJECT].a.o
-Subject: [RESULT] [VOTE] New committer (or PMC candidate): Jo Bloggs
-
+Subject: [RESULT] [VOTE] New committer and PMC member candidate: Jo Bloggs
+
 The vote has now closed. The results are:
-
+
 Binding Votes:
-
+
 +1 [TOTAL BINDING +1 VOTES]
  0 [TOTAL BINDING +0/-0 VOTES]
 -1 [TOTAL BINDING -1 VOTES]
-
+
 The vote is ***successful/not successful***
 
-### Notify Board of new PMC member 
-See [https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmc][1]
+### Notify Board of new PMC member
+In case the new committer is also a new PMC member, the PMC Chair (or another 
PMC member)
+should notify the board. See [new PMC 
Member](https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmcmember)
 

Review Comment:
   Ah. Indeed 
https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/PMC_Membership_Change_Process.html 
desribes it . Let me correct it



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Re: [PR] Clarifies and split new committer / new PMC member templates [comdev-site]

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clr-apache commented on code in PR #183:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/183#discussion_r1677183639


##
source/newcommitter.md:
##
@@ -159,118 +167,136 @@ Other notes about the process are available on the main 
[Apache site](https://ww
 ### Committer Vote Template
 This is the email to commence a vote for a new committer.
 Some projects make committers PMC members automatically. If this is the case,
-merge this template with the following one (PMC Vote Template).
-  
+use the following one (Committer and PMC member candidate Vote Template).
+
 
 To: private@[PROJECT].apache.org
 Subject: [VOTE] New committer: Jo Bloggs
-
+
 [ add the reasons behind your nomination here ]
-
+
 Voting ends one week from today, i.e. midnight UTC on -MM-DD
 
https://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?year=&month=MM&day=DD
-
+
 See voting guidelines at
 https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html
-
+
 
 
-### PMC Vote Template
-This is the email to commence a vote for a new **PMC candidate**. New PMC 
members need
-to be voted for by the existing PMC members and subsequently approved by the 
Board
-(or Incubator PMC for incubating projects).
-
+### Committer and PMC member candidate Vote Template
+This is the email to commence a vote for new committer that is also candidate 
for a PMC member.
+
 
 To: private@[PROJECT].apache.org
-Subject: [VOTE] New PMC candidate: Jo Bloggs
-
+Subject: [VOTE] New Committer and PMC member candidate: Jo Bloggs
+
 [ add the reasons behind your nomination here ]
-
+
 Voting ends one week from today, i.e. midnight UTC on -MM-DD
 
https://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?year=&month=MM&day=DD
-
+
 See voting guidelines at
 https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html
-
-### Close Vote
+
+### Committer Close Vote
+This email ends the vote and reports the result to the project.
+
+
+To: private@[PROJECT].a.o
+Subject: [RESULT] [VOTE] New committer: Jo Bloggs
+
+The vote has now closed. The results are:
+
+Binding Votes:
+
++1 [TOTAL BINDING +1 VOTES]
+ 0 [TOTAL BINDING +0/-0 VOTES]
+-1 [TOTAL BINDING -1 VOTES]
+
+The vote is ***successful/not successful***
+
+### Committer and New PMC member candidate close Vote
 This email ends the vote and reports the result to the project.
-
+
 
 To: private@[PROJECT].a.o
-Subject: [RESULT] [VOTE] New committer (or PMC candidate): Jo Bloggs
-
+Subject: [RESULT] [VOTE] New committer and PMC member candidate: Jo Bloggs
+
 The vote has now closed. The results are:
-
+
 Binding Votes:
-
+
 +1 [TOTAL BINDING +1 VOTES]
  0 [TOTAL BINDING +0/-0 VOTES]
 -1 [TOTAL BINDING -1 VOTES]
-
+
 The vote is ***successful/not successful***
 
-### Notify Board of new PMC member 
-See [https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmc][1]
+### Notify Board of new PMC member
+In case the new committer is also a new PMC member, the PMC Chair (or another 
PMC member)
+should notify the board. See [new PMC 
Member](https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmcmember)
 

Review Comment:
   This is no longer required, as long as the PMC private list has been 
notified. So lines 235 through 238 can be dropped.



##
source/newpmcmember.md:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,172 @@
+---
+title: New PMC member
+tags: ["pmc", "pmcmembers", "election"]
+---
+
+## New PMC member process
+
+This section describes a typical Apache project's process for handling the
+vote to add a new PMC member - when it is separate from becoming commiter.
+Templates mentioned in the process appear later in this document. If your PMC
+adds automatically committers as PMC members, the process for doing both at the
+same time is described in the [New 
committer](https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html)
+
+
+### Summary
+
+1. Discuss the proposed PMC member. If the discussion seems to be going 
positively, call a vote following
+   the template below.
+1. Close the vote following the template below.
+1. If the result is positive, invite the new committer following the template 
below.
+
+If they accept, then:
+
+1. In case the new PMC member is already  is already a committer, they have 
Apache id,
+   you should grant them appropriate PMC privileges. Use the Whimsy tool to 
update the roster via
+   https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committee/ or 
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/
+1. Announce the new PMC member following the template below.
+
+
+### Discussion
+
+We do the discussion and vote on the `private@` mailing list to enable a fran

Re: [PR] Clarifies and split new committer / new PMC member templates [comdev-site]

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potiuk commented on PR #183:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/183#issuecomment-2227405592

   Should be merged around the same time as 
https://github.com/apache/www-site/pull/389


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[PR] Clarifies and split new committer / new PMC member templates [comdev-site]

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potiuk opened a new pull request, #183:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/183

   Since we are now reaching out to projects about PMC vs. PMC member, I looked 
at the source of some of the templates that are used and clarified, unified 
them and fixed a few errors in those templates, also replaced the link to 
anchor in www-site about new PMC member with #newpmcmember instead of #newpmc, 
which could be confusing and one of the reasons why people use New PMC rather 
than New PMC member.
   
   The problem with those templates were that they did not provide correct 
templates for inviting (and following up) in case the PMC member was invited 
separately from committer - the templates required manual modifications of 
Commiter to "PMC member" and manually modifying text of the template, which 
could be onoe of the reasons why people replaced "Committer" with "PMC member" 
in their invitations.
   
   The change splits the process out of inviting PMC member separately (while 
leaving the optional process where committer is immediately a PMC member in the 
original place).
   
   This PR also unifies the way how links are added to the page, there was a 
mixture of `[n]` references and `md` way of inlining links.
   
   Another part of this change is introducing "PMC member" everywhere where 
"PMC" could be confused with person. For example the "PMC candidate" - while 
technically correct ("candidate to the PMC") is another reason why people could 
confuse "PMC" with person. Replacing it with "PMC member candidate" removes the 
confusion while being also techincally correct.


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Re: [PR] Add "why" for branding and licencing [comdev-working-groups]

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potiuk commented on code in PR #43:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/43#discussion_r1665557158


##
wg-advisors/why/why_branding_licencing.md:
##
@@ -1,13 +1,68 @@
 # Why we should look after the project's brand and licencing
 
-TODO:
-
 ## Summary
 
+The Apache Software Foundation's most important asset is a combination of 
branding and license that is
+used by all Apache projects. The license is the Apache License, Version 2.0, 
and the branding is based
+on the project name. The licence is a permissive open source license that 
allows the software to be used
+by anyone for any purpose, and the branding is a set of rules that ensure that 
the software is recognized
+as an Apache project and that the project is recognized as part of the Apache 
Software Foundation.
+
+The software that ASF projects produce is released under the Apache License, 
Version 2.0, which is a permissive
+open source license that allows the software to be used by anyone for any 
purpose and it is important that
+we do not limit anyone from using the software in any way. And while we allow 
anyone to use the software,
+and redistribute it, we do not allow anyone to claim that they are the 
"owners" of the software, or that
+they are controlling the project.
+
+This is why it is important to ensure that the project's brand is not used in 
a way that could cause confusion
+or mislead users on who is owning or controlling the project. This includes 
ensuring that the project's name
+is not used in a way that could imply that another party is controlling the 
project - assuring
+vendor neutrality.

Review Comment:
   Good point. Added links to [Project 
Independence](https://community.apache.org/projectIndependence.html)



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Re: [PR] Add "why" for branding and licencing [comdev-working-groups]

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potiuk commented on PR #43:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/43#issuecomment-2208717949

   Applied comments.


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Re: [PR] Add "why" for branding and licencing [comdev-working-groups]

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potiuk commented on code in PR #43:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/43#discussion_r1665554435


##
wg-advisors/why/why_branding_licencing.md:
##
@@ -1,13 +1,68 @@
 # Why we should look after the project's brand and licencing
 
-TODO:
-
 ## Summary
 
+The Apache Software Foundation's most important asset is a combination of 
branding and license that is
+used by all Apache projects. The license is the Apache License, Version 2.0, 
and the branding is based
+on the project name. The licence is a permissive open source license that 
allows the software to be used
+by anyone for any purpose, and the branding is a set of rules that ensure that 
the software is recognized
+as an Apache project and that the project is recognized as part of the Apache 
Software Foundation.
+
+The software that ASF projects produce is released under the Apache License, 
Version 2.0, which is a permissive
+open source license that allows the software to be used by anyone for any 
purpose and it is important that

Review Comment:
   Yes. Merged the two. From the second paragraph I left only the "owning" part.



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Re: [PR] Add "why" for branding and licencing [comdev-working-groups]

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potiuk commented on code in PR #43:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/43#discussion_r1665557506


##
wg-advisors/why/why_branding_licencing.md:
##
@@ -1,13 +1,68 @@
 # Why we should look after the project's brand and licencing
 
-TODO:
-
 ## Summary
 
+The Apache Software Foundation's most important asset is a combination of 
branding and license that is
+used by all Apache projects. The license is the Apache License, Version 2.0, 
and the branding is based
+on the project name. The licence is a permissive open source license that 
allows the software to be used
+by anyone for any purpose, and the branding is a set of rules that ensure that 
the software is recognized
+as an Apache project and that the project is recognized as part of the Apache 
Software Foundation.
+
+The software that ASF projects produce is released under the Apache License, 
Version 2.0, which is a permissive
+open source license that allows the software to be used by anyone for any 
purpose and it is important that
+we do not limit anyone from using the software in any way. And while we allow 
anyone to use the software,
+and redistribute it, we do not allow anyone to claim that they are the 
"owners" of the software, or that
+they are controlling the project.
+
+This is why it is important to ensure that the project's brand is not used in 
a way that could cause confusion
+or mislead users on who is owning or controlling the project. This includes 
ensuring that the project's name
+is not used in a way that could imply that another party is controlling the 
project - assuring
+vendor neutrality.
+
+Some, popular, Apache projects have a strong brand recognition, and it's 
important to ensure that the
+brand is used consistently across all project's assets, including the website, 
documentation, and
+marketing materials and the ASF registers the project's name as a trademark to 
ensure that the project's
+brand is protected.
+
+The ASF has a set of policies that define how the Apache brand should be used, 
and it's important that
+all projects follow these guidelines to ensure that the brand is used 
consistently and correctly.
+
+It's a PMC responsibility to ensure that the project's brand is used correctly 
and to take action if the
+brand is used in a way that could cause confusion or mislead users.
+
+The foundation has legal ways to enforce the brand and license, but it's 
always better to resolve any
+issues informally, by contacting the party that is using the brand incorrectly 
and asking them to correct
+the issue.
+
+Events are a special case, as they are often organized by third parties, and 
it's important to ensure
+that the event is recognized as an Apache event and that the event is 
organized in a way that is consistent
+with the Apache Software Foundation's values and principles.
+
 ## Links to relevant documents
 
+* [The Apache Software Foundation Trademark 
Policy](https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/)
+* [The Apache Licences](https://apache.org/licenses/)
+* [Third party event branding 
policy](https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/events.html)
+
 ## Why are we doing it?
 
+The software that ASF projects produce is released under the Apache License, 
Version 2.0, which is a permissive
+open source license that allows the software to be used by anyone for any 
purpose and it is important that
+we do not limit anyone 

Review Comment:
   Right. Removed it.



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Re: [PR] Add "why" for branding and licencing [comdev-working-groups]

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potiuk commented on PR #43:
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   As the next "why" I proposed some "why" for branding/licencing in the 
"advisors" working group. This is my understanding on why licensing and 
branding and taking care about it is the most important thing from the legal 
point of view for all PMC members, but I woudl love to hear what others think 
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   Suggest ways for PMCs/ podlings to adopt their Code of Conduct


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   Minor clarifications


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Re: [PR] update status [comdev-working-groups]

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[PR] update status [comdev-working-groups]

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Re: [PR] Proposal for "Community building" why description [comdev-working-groups]

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potiuk commented on PR #35:
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https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/35#issuecomment-2146679421

   Any more comments here ? I've been caught up with other things and have not 
been following up with it, but maybe other peoople interested in getting 
advisors idea to proceed would also like to step-up and join the efforts here. 
I am not in a position of leading the effort and taking the reigns (I am mostly 
focusing on Airflow 3 and Security area, but I really think advisors is a good 
idea and it could be very interesting change for the ASF. 
   
   Maybe someone would like to take a lead on that at the CoC EU ? 


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Re: [PR] Update community-growth.md [comdev-site]

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Pilot-Pirx commented on PR #182:
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   Hehe, I often feel like Pirx on a test flight... ;-)


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Re: [PR] Update community-growth.md [comdev-site]

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   Thank you! Also, love the username! 


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Re: [PR] fix: home navbar backgroun error logo invisibility [comdev-site]

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rbowen merged PR #180:
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Re: [PR] fix: home navbar backgroun error logo invisibility [comdev-site]

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rbowen commented on PR #180:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/180#issuecomment-2143738969

   > I think we can implement a plan to modify all current Apache websites, 
improving areas with recognition issues or those that are hard for visually 
impaired individuals to see. What do you think? I feel it's a really cool idea.
   
   This must be run through the M&P (Marketing and Press) team, and cannot be 
decided here, as that's a global ASF branding question, and not something we 
have the right to address.


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Re: [PR] link to trademark responsibilities site [comdev-site]

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rbowen merged PR #181:
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[PR] link to trademark responsibilities site [comdev-site]

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Re: [PR] fix: home navbar backgroun error logo invisibility [comdev-site]

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clr-apache commented on PR #180:
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   I think it will be good to start with this one. Update all pages to improve 
the experience for everyone? Great follow-on idea.
   
   Craig
   
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Re: [PR] fix: home navbar backgroun error logo invisibility [comdev-site]

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   I think we can implement a plan to modify all current Apache websites, 
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Re: [PR] fix: home navbar backgroun error logo invisibility [comdev-site]

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   LGTM.
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Re: [PR] fix: home navbar backgroun error logo invisibility [comdev-site]

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   No objections from me. Anyone else have a chance to verify? 


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[PR] fix: home navbar backgroun error logo invisibility [comdev-site]

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iepn opened a new pull request, #180:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/180

   I'm a colorblind user, and I really want to see the Apache logo clearly 
because it holds great sentimental value for me. This is also my first PR since 
following Apache.
   
   This PR mainly enhances the recognizability of the navbar logo. Below is the 
difference between the two:
   
   ### Error navbar logo
   
   
![afa6adf3177aa57da2d2e1088a6fbe7f](https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/assets/57232813/f20b65fa-7cb1-4555-96f6-4a0d18053b01)
   
   ### New navbar logo
   
   
![d04591f96a8ca592346fa328c1a0d2d1](https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/assets/57232813/94d74a7d-cc6f-4d9d-abfa-c3f92b7a2aa0)
   
   To my surprise, I can now see the Apache logo clearly, including the details 
like "Software Foundation."


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Re: [PR] [GSOC] Added past GSoC program details for year 2023 and 2022 [comdev-site]

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rbowen merged PR #178:
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Re: [PR] Add tison as one of volunteer mentors & speakers [comdev-site]

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tisonkun merged PR #179:
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tisonkun commented on PR #179:
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   CTR. Merging ...


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Re: [PR] [GSOC] Added past GSoC program details for year 2023 and 2022 [comdev-site]

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priyasharma1 commented on PR #178:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/178#issuecomment-2079331517

   This is how the change would look
   
   
![Apache-Community-Development-Apache-in-GSoC](https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/assets/14103632/8b6a1fdf-2ed9-4ab4-a571-7a141ce66505)
   ![Screenshot from 2024-04-26 
18-21-39](https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/assets/14103632/13467d85-b45f-4870-beeb-ff36a8f1a005)


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[PR] [GSOC] Added past GSoC program details for year 2023 and 2022 [comdev-site]

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   - Create a new folder for experiences only
   - Moved the experiences main file into new folder


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[PR] make the hyphen optional [comdev-site]

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Re: [PR] make the hyphen optional [comdev-site]

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Re: [PR] COMDEV-544 Improve comdev website navigation to GSoC mentor resources [comdev-site]

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rbowen merged PR #176:
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[PR] COMDEV-544 Improve comdev website navigation to GSoC mentor resources [comdev-site]

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lewismc opened a new pull request, #176:
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   PR for https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-544


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[PR] Add Glaucia's email and include in the WG Social Media [comdev-working-groups]

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[PR] Add useful links; suggest coordinating with incubator docs too [comdev-working-groups]

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[PR] feat: polish breadcrumb to display page title [comdev-site]

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suyanhanx opened a new pull request, #175:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/175

   Signed-off-by: suyanhanx 
   
   I noticed that the breadcrumb on our comdev site is generated by 
capitalizing the first letter of the fragment of the URL.
   This may be wrong some of the time, such as GSoC:
   
![image](https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/assets/24221472/59e48bf0-5fff-498d-a28c-0ad4f8b466e7)
   
   I polished this breadcrumb. 
   
   After:
   
![image](https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/assets/24221472/6132523c-9bfe-4ca6-b0cd-4c9efd3fcb6d)
   
   Now it looks better.


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Re: [PR] Adds practical community building advice. [comdev-site]

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rbowen merged PR #174:
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Re: [PR] Adds practical community building advice. [comdev-site]

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rbowen commented on PR #174:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/174#issuecomment-2032478054

   Merging as a first draft. Please do feel free to make further edits/updates. 
Thanks for the input, friends.
   


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Re: [PR] Adds practical community building advice. [comdev-site]

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justinmclean commented on code in PR #174:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/174#discussion_r1547094290


##
source/pmc/community-growth.md:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,90 @@
+---
+title: Community Growth
+tags: ["pmc","committers","community"]
+---
+
+Growing your project community takes work. This document makes practical
+suggestions of how to encourage people to get involved in your project.
+
+## Publish a roadmap
+
+Volunteers can work on whatever they want, and so we have a tendency to
+not want to tell them what to work on. However, publishing a roadmap, or
+even a wishlist of features or improvements that are desired, can give
+people an idea of where they might be able to get involved.
+
+This also gives a clear sense that the project has ambitions, and is
+going somewhere, rather than that it is stagnating.
+
+It can be very challenging to keep a roadmap current. Having a mechanism
+for tagging open issues with `proposal` or `roadmap` and
+automatimatically extracting that into a web page can help with this.
+
+## Periodically publish the open issue list
+
+Your ticket tracker allows you to periodically summarize the open
+issues. Sending this to the dev@ list reminds people that there are
+things to work on, and gives them permission, and encouragement, to do
+so.
+
+Consider creating [good first
+issues](/committers/good-first-issues.html) as a place for new
+contributors to get started.
+
+## Clearly document contribution processes
+
+Double-check that your "how to contribute / build / test / submit PR"
+documentation is super clear and easy to follow.  Long-time committers
+on a project often forget all the institutional knowledge they just
+"know", so ensuring the "getting started" document actually works
+for newcomers is always worth looking at.
+
+Encourage newcomers to talk about, and document, their pain points
+during their first contributions, and work towards fixing, or at least
+documenting, those things.
+
+## Publish your contributor ladder
+
+A [contributor ladder](/contributor-ladder.html) is a description of
+various levels of access and responsibility a contributor can progress
+through in your project. This is typically the path from contributor, to
+committer, to PMC member.
+
+Explicitly publish your requirements for each step. For example, if you
+require ten non-trivial patches accepted, or perhaps 3 months of
+involvement, document this on your website so that people don't feel
+that it's random, or that they are driving in the dark.
+
+Consider lowering your bar to entry. Remember that while the risk of
+inviting someone "too early" is that they'll break something, that's why
+you have version control - so you can revert those changes. However, the
+risk of inviting someone too late is that they'll give up and go away
+forever.
+
+## Engage with big users
+
+If you are aware of companies that rely on your project, encourage them
+to think about what they would do if the project retired. This often
+leads to those companies realizing the value they get "for free", and
+starting to contribute in some way.

Review Comment:
   Perhaps also list ways companies to help out by providing in-kind 
contributions e.g. testing infrastructure), developer time or help with 
marketing/website?



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Re: [PR] Adds practical community building advice. [comdev-site]

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justinmclean commented on code in PR #174:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/174#discussion_r1547092975


##
source/pmc/community-growth.md:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,90 @@
+---
+title: Community Growth
+tags: ["pmc","committers","community"]
+---
+
+Growing your project community takes work. This document makes practical
+suggestions of how to encourage people to get involved in your project.
+
+## Publish a roadmap
+
+Volunteers can work on whatever they want, and so we have a tendency to
+not want to tell them what to work on. However, publishing a roadmap, or
+even a wishlist of features or improvements that are desired, can give
+people an idea of where they might be able to get involved.
+
+This also gives a clear sense that the project has ambitions, and is
+going somewhere, rather than that it is stagnating.
+
+It can be very challenging to keep a roadmap current. Having a mechanism
+for tagging open issues with `proposal` or `roadmap` and
+automatimatically extracting that into a web page can help with this.
+
+## Periodically publish the open issue list
+
+Your ticket tracker allows you to periodically summarize the open
+issues. Sending this to the dev@ list reminds people that there are
+things to work on, and gives them permission, and encouragement, to do
+so.
+
+Consider creating [good first
+issues](/committers/good-first-issues.html) as a place for new
+contributors to get started.

Review Comment:
   GitHub automatically does this for you 
https://github.com/apache/pekko/contribute just substitute pekko for any Apache 
project



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Re: [PR] Adds practical community building advice. [comdev-site]

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justinmclean commented on code in PR #174:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/174#discussion_r1547092975


##
source/pmc/community-growth.md:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,90 @@
+---
+title: Community Growth
+tags: ["pmc","committers","community"]
+---
+
+Growing your project community takes work. This document makes practical
+suggestions of how to encourage people to get involved in your project.
+
+## Publish a roadmap
+
+Volunteers can work on whatever they want, and so we have a tendency to
+not want to tell them what to work on. However, publishing a roadmap, or
+even a wishlist of features or improvements that are desired, can give
+people an idea of where they might be able to get involved.
+
+This also gives a clear sense that the project has ambitions, and is
+going somewhere, rather than that it is stagnating.
+
+It can be very challenging to keep a roadmap current. Having a mechanism
+for tagging open issues with `proposal` or `roadmap` and
+automatimatically extracting that into a web page can help with this.
+
+## Periodically publish the open issue list
+
+Your ticket tracker allows you to periodically summarize the open
+issues. Sending this to the dev@ list reminds people that there are
+things to work on, and gives them permission, and encouragement, to do
+so.
+
+Consider creating [good first
+issues](/committers/good-first-issues.html) as a place for new
+contributors to get started.

Review Comment:
   GitHub automatically does this for you 
https://github.com/apache/pekko/contribute just substitute peeks for any Apache 
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[PR] Another one - proposal for "Community building" why description [comdev-working-groups]

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potiuk opened a new pull request, #35:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/35

   Continuuation from the previous whys - this one also inspired by some of the 
recent discussions on the authors/original authors and generally explaining the 
red-flags listed already.
   
   Looking forward to comments.


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Re: [PR] Adds practical community building advice. [comdev-site]

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jbonofre commented on code in PR #174:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/174#discussion_r1544702478


##
source/pmc/community-growth.md:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,82 @@
+---
+title: Community Growth
+tags: ["pmc","committers","community"]
+---
+
+Growing your project community takes work. This document makes practical
+suggestions of how to encourage people to get involved in your project.
+
+## Publish a road map
+
+Volunteers can work on whatever they want, and so we have a tendency to
+not want to tell them what to work on. However, publishing a roadmap, or
+even a wishlist of features or improvements that are desired, can give
+people an idea of where they might be able to get involved.
+
+This also gives a clear sense that the project has ambitions, and is
+going somewhere, rather than that it is stagnating.
+
+## Periodically publish the open issue list
+
+Your ticket tracker allows you to periodically summarize the open

Review Comment:
   I would also to propose:
   1. Tag some issues as "low hanging fruits" allowing new contributor to ramp 
up
   2. For PR and issue, I would propose to send reminder to PRs/issues not 
recently updated (to avoid stale ones)
   3. A good idea is also default assignee that can provide a first answer and 
add other people to help the contributor (mentoring process).



##
source/pmc/community-growth.md:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,82 @@
+---
+title: Community Growth
+tags: ["pmc","committers","community"]
+---
+
+Growing your project community takes work. This document makes practical
+suggestions of how to encourage people to get involved in your project.
+
+## Publish a road map
+
+Volunteers can work on whatever they want, and so we have a tendency to
+not want to tell them what to work on. However, publishing a roadmap, or
+even a wishlist of features or improvements that are desired, can give
+people an idea of where they might be able to get involved.
+
+This also gives a clear sense that the project has ambitions, and is
+going somewhere, rather than that it is stagnating.

Review Comment:
   Concretely, it's challenging to maintain a roadmap page on website.
   
   I would propose to "tag" issues with `proposal` or `roadmap` and 
extract/link this on website.
   That's probably the best approach to keep this up to date and accurate.



##
source/pmc/community-growth.md:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,82 @@
+---
+title: Community Growth
+tags: ["pmc","committers","community"]
+---
+
+Growing your project community takes work. This document makes practical
+suggestions of how to encourage people to get involved in your project.
+
+## Publish a road map
+
+Volunteers can work on whatever they want, and so we have a tendency to
+not want to tell them what to work on. However, publishing a roadmap, or
+even a wishlist of features or improvements that are desired, can give
+people an idea of where they might be able to get involved.
+
+This also gives a clear sense that the project has ambitions, and is
+going somewhere, rather than that it is stagnating.
+
+## Periodically publish the open issue list
+
+Your ticket tracker allows you to periodically summarize the open
+issues. Sending this to the dev@ list reminds people that there are
+things to work on, and gives them permission, and encouragement, to do
+so.
+
+## Clearly document contribution processes
+
+Double-check that your "how to contribute / build / test / submit PR"
+documentation is super clear and easy to follow.  Long-time committers
+on a project often forget all the institutional knowledge they just
+"know", so ensuring the "getting started" document actually works
+for newcomers is always worth looking at.
+
+Encourage newcomers to talk about, and document, their pain points

Review Comment:
   I would also mention the proposal process: how to submit new ideas ? how to 
be sure no proposal is lost or stale for too long ? how to track the proposals 
under discussion ?



##
source/pmc/community-growth.md:
##
@@ -0,0 +1,82 @@
+---
+title: Community Growth
+tags: ["pmc","committers","community"]
+---
+
+Growing your project community takes work. This document makes practical
+suggestions of how to encourage people to get involved in your project.
+
+## Publish a road map
+
+Volunteers can work on whatever they want, and so we have a tendency to
+not want to tell them what to work on. However, publishing a roadmap, or
+even a wishlist of features or improvements that are desired, can give
+people an idea of where they might be able to get involved.
+
+This also gives a clear sense that the project has ambitions, and is
+going somewhere, rather than that it is stagnating.
+
+## Periodically publish the open issue list
+
+Your ticket tracker allows you to periodically summarize the open
+issues. Sending this to the dev@ list reminds people that there are
+things to work on, and gives them permission, and encouragement, to do
+so.
+
+## Clearly document contribution p

Re: [PR] Propose "why" explanation on discussions and decision making [comdev-working-groups]

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Re: [PR] Adding the “The Apache Way of Open Source” slides from re:publica 2018 [comdev-site]

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rbowen merged PR #173:
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[PR] Adds practical community building advice. [comdev-site]

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rbowen opened a new pull request, #174:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/174

   Adds a new document, inspired by conversations with one of our projects in 
this situation, suggesting practical steps that a project can take to attract 
new contributors.


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[PR] Proposed template to answer an offer to contribute to a project [comdev-working-groups]

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rbowen opened a new pull request, #34:
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   This is taken from a response just sent to a dev list, and made more generic.


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Re: [PR] Proposed template to answer an offer to contribute to a project [comdev-working-groups]

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[PR] Adding the “The Apache Way of Open Source” slides from re:publica 2018 [comdev-site]

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jogep opened a new pull request, #173:
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   Adding the “The Apache Way of Open Source” slides from re:publica 2018 
Berlin presentation to the list.
   


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Re: [PR] Update mentee-ranking-process.md [comdev-site]

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Re: [PR] Adding glauesppen in the volunteers [comdev-site]

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Re: [PR] Volunteer as speaker [comdev-site]

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[PR] Adding glauesppen in the volunteers [comdev-site]

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[PR] Volunteer as speaker [comdev-site]

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aaltay opened a new pull request, #171:
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   Volunteer as speaker.


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Re: [PR] doc: remove usage of CoPDoC [comdev-site]

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bdelacretaz commented on PR #170:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/170#issuecomment-2014750121

   Thanks for this, Less Acronyms Are Better ! (LAAB ?)
   
   I'll just change "Apache strives..." to "The ASF strives..." as that's 
currently the preferred form.


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Re: [PR] doc: remove usage of CoPDoC [comdev-site]

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[PR] doc: remove usage of CoPDoC [comdev-site]

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erisu opened a new pull request, #170:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/170

   Took me a while to figure out what "CoPDoC" stood for.
   
   I had to search for this acronym and found its meaning from other Apache 
projects, such as:
   
   - 
https://streampark.apache.org/community/contribution_guide/become_committer/
   - 
https://github.com/apache/ignite-3/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#needed-contributions
   - https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@servicecomb.apache.org/msg04675.html
   - https://kyuubi.apache.org/become_pmc_member.html
   
   I was going to submit a PR to add the meaning of the acronym to this page, 
but then I noticed the last commit on this file actually removed it, about 10 
months ago.
   
   - https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/118
   
   If we are removing the acronym's definition, I think we should also remove 
its usage.
   
   In my opinion, I didn't see anything wrong with the acronym, but perhaps the 
"Contributing A Project - CoPDoC" section could have been merged with the 
"Anyone Can Become A Committer" section at the point it's first used.
   
   It seems the acronym was added by SorraTheOrc in 2011 and mentioned a few 
times in the mailing list, but I couldn't find a discussion thread about its 
creation.
   
   The primary reason I encountered this acronym is because I am seeking to 
enhance the contributing documentation for the project I am involved with. I 
aimed to clearly communicate that anyone could contribute to various aspects of 
the project, including Project (CI, team communication, task flow, etc.), 
Community (supporting users in how to use the project or responding to 
tickets), Documentation, and Code. Not limited to code only.


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[PR] Update mentee-ranking-process.md [comdev-site]

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   Fixed the formate issue.


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Re: [PR] Add jbonofre as asf-volunteers [comdev-site]

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Re: [PR] Add jbonofre as asf-volunteers [comdev-site]

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jbonofre commented on PR #168:
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   @bdelacretaz if you don't mind to review and merge :) Thanks !


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[PR] Add jbonofre as asf-volunteers [comdev-site]

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Re: [PR] Added the volunteers information of ningjiang [comdev-site]

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[PR] Added the volunteers information of ningjiang [comdev-site]

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Re: [PR] Volunteer as speaker; no mentoring this year though [comdev-site]

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[PR] Volunteer as speaker; no mentoring this year though [comdev-site]

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Re: [PR] Propose "why" explanation on discussions and decision making [comdev-working-groups]

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potiuk commented on PR #29:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/29#issuecomment-2007133213

   > I don't see point two mentioned
   
   There was a paragraph on that already:
   
   > The mailing list provide a permanent record of the discussions and 
decisions and the Apache Software Foundation
   Infrastructure team makes sure that the archives are preserved and available 
for the future, including the
   ability to search and browse the archives, as well as permanently link to 
the discussions and decisions so
   that they can be always referred to in the future.
   
   But I added a one sentence summary at the top and updated the paragraph to 
stress importance of it. The description indeed becomes a bit long to read it 
in it's entirety and get the quick grasp of what's in, so having a summarizing 
one line at the beginning is a good idea.


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Re: [PR] Prepare updated speakers info for disabling community.zones.a.o [comdev-site]

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bdelacretaz merged PR #160:
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Re: [PR] New "ASF volunteers" page to replace the community.zones.a.o apps [comdev-site]

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[PR] Nav link to ALC [comdev-site]

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Re: [PR] Nav link to ALC [comdev-site]

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Re: [PR] Add Calvin Kirs(kirs) to advisor list [comdev-working-groups]

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rbowen merged PR #30:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/30


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Re: [PR] Propose "why" explanation on discussions and decision making [comdev-working-groups]

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rbowen commented on PR #29:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/29#issuecomment-2004203521

   There are two primary reasons we use mailing lists: 1) Accessibility and 2) 
Archive. That is, 1) ensuring that everyone in the world, regardless of 
language, timezone, or quality of network, can participate; and 2) ensuring 
that we have a permanent record of the discussion for later reference.
   
   We didn't invent mailing lists, or even have any discussion about how it was 
to be done. That's just how things were done in 1994, and had been done that 
way for a decade leading up to that. We were standing on the shoulders of 
giants, and recognizing the already-acknowledged benefits. 
   
   I don't see point two mentioned, but what you have written is fine. +1 to 
merging what you have. Possibly a mention of the archival nature of mailing 
lists would be warranted.
   


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Re: [PR] Link to badging [comdev-working-groups]

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rbowen merged PR #33:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/33


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Re: [PR] Add Justin Mclean to advisor list [comdev-working-groups]

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rbowen merged PR #31:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/31


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[PR] Link to badging [comdev-working-groups]

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rbowen opened a new pull request, #33:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/33

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Re: [PR] Converted site from CMS style to Hugo [comdev-site]

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hhjbbarhadi commented on PR #5:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/5#issuecomment-2002279092

   این برنامه دانلود نمئ شود 


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Re: [PR] link to social media channels [comdev-working-groups]

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rbowen merged PR #32:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/32


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[PR] link to social media channels [comdev-working-groups]

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rbowen opened a new pull request, #32:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups/pull/32

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Re: [PR] Slight reorg: Removes duplication and renames a few links [comdev-site]

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rbowen merged PR #164:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/164


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