[NTG-context] [installation] "unzipping" gives 0K files on windows
xmf-win64/bin/luametatex.exe mtx-install | skipping tex/texmf-win64/bin/mtxrun.exe mtx-install | new : 100 % : 701766 : tex/texmf-win64/bin/mtxrun.lua ``` - ### links [context_history]: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_history#ConTeXt_LMTX "lmtx in context history" [check_installation]: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation#Check_the_installation "check the installation" [main_page]: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page "context main page" [pragma-ade]: https://www.pragma-ade.nl/download-1.htm "pragma webpage" [`context-win64.zip`]: https://lmtx.pragma-ade.com/install-lmtx/context-win64.zip "~1.5M" [`texmf.zip`]: http://lmtx.pragma-ade.com/install-lmtx//texmf.zip "~52M" [`texmf-context.zip`]: http://lmtx.pragma-ade.com/install-lmtx//texmf-context.zip "~115M" ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Hbox error with itemized list on second page
Hi, sorry. The example was in an earlier message in the thread: https://mailman.ntg.nl/archives/list/ntg-context@ntg.nl/thread/ZLVFEBU73KBBCBUQMWXZWER2CZHR6ZR2/ I fixed the problem for now by forcing a page break where it was needed. On Tue, May 14, 2024, at 6:57 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > Ross Schulman schrieb am 07.05.2024 um 01:33: >> So, unfortunately while using `\testpage` helped in the version of the >> resume I was working on at the time, I've encountered the error again now >> that some different content is making the page break at a different point, >> and setting `\testpage` as high as 6 is not fixing the problem. Is there >> something else I can/should try? > > For the start you can show us a minimal example with the problem. > > When you're still trying to create a paragraph with different text widths > there are limitations. TeX always typesets more text than it can fit on the > current page and when on the next page the text widths changes this is to > late for TeX at this moment because the text has already been set with the > width of the previous page. > > Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Hbox error with itemized list on second page
Ross Schulman schrieb am 07.05.2024 um 01:33: So, unfortunately while using `\testpage` helped in the version of the resume I was working on at the time, I've encountered the error again now that some different content is making the page break at a different point, and setting `\testpage` as high as 6 is not fixing the problem. Is there something else I can/should try? For the start you can show us a minimal example with the problem. When you're still trying to create a paragraph with different text widths there are limitations. TeX always typesets more text than it can fit on the current page and when on the next page the text widths changes this is to late for TeX at this moment because the text has already been set with the width of the previous page. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Is there a way to consolidate index reference numbers by book?
\useregister[workbookA][03_workbook][learnedlong][WB~1:~] \useregister[workbookB][04_workbook][learnedlong][WB~2:~] \useregister[workbookC][05_workbook][learnedlong][WB~3:~] \useregister[workbookD][06_workbook][learnedlong][WB~4:~] \startchapter[title=Standards] \placeregister[learnedlong,workbookA,workbookB,workbookC,workbookD] \stopchapter I setup a custon index that lists items from four different workbooks. The problem is in the indexi, it displays entreis like this: WHST.1.1: 11, 231, WB 1: 124, WB 1: 133, WB 2: 325, WB 2: 345, etc. In other words, it says WB 1 in front of every page number from the first workbook. Is there any way to consolidate the page numbers by book, e.g. output instead like this: WHST.1.1: 11, 231, WB1: 124, 133, WB 2: 325, 345 In other words, it list all page numbers for Workbook 1 right after WB 1: instead of placing WB 1 in front of every single page from Workbook 1? --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] How to place text, but make it completely hidden from viewers?
I have found a few situations is confusing/breaking ConTeXt:
- Footnotes inside tables, figures, frames, margins (won't render the cited
item).
- Custom index items inside those items (displays "entry not flushed").
My workaround has been to define a size 0 font \tfz, then put it in a block
like this:
{\tfz% \starteffect[hidden]%
\cite[author1912] \stopeffect%
}%
The problem this seems to create, is sometimes if placed between two passages,
it interprets a need to create two paragraph breaks:
\input knuth
{\tfz% \starteffect[hidden]%
\cite[author1912] \stopeffect%
}%
\input knuth
It creates a paragraph break after the first knuth, then another after the
hidden text, thereby creating a "double spaced" break between two paragraphs.
Note the above code is used in many macros, so I don't have full control always
where it appears, but its making the double-spaced break everywhere.
Is there either (1) something can enter before this code that essentially has
the effect of "backup to the previous paragraph" or (2) some other method of
hiding text that makes it present on the page, but just not visible to the
reader, that won't create a double spaced break, or take up any space
what-so-ever?
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[NTG-context] Re: Hbox error with itemized list on second page
Hi everyone. Just raising this question again. Is anyone able to help me figure
out why this is happening and how I can fix it more permanently? Thank you all
very much!
Ross
On Mon, May 6, 2024, at 7:33 PM, Ross Schulman wrote:
> So, unfortunately while using `\testpage` helped in the version of the resume
> I was working on at the time, I've encountered the error again now that some
> different content is making the page break at a different point, and setting
> `\testpage` as high as 6 is not fixing the problem. Is there something else I
> can/should try?
>
> Thanks very much,
> Ross
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 12:20 PM, Ross Schulman wrote:
>> Thank you. Adding that did the trick!
>>
>> Best,
>> Ross Schulman
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 11:47 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>> Ross Schulman schrieb am 30.04.2024 um 15:01:
>>> > Hello,
>>> > I'm attempting to format a resume in Context building off of a template
>>> > I found online. I'm having an odd error with some bullets on the second
>>> > page, however. I'm guessing it has something to do with my \definelayout
>>> > for the second (and subsequent) pages, but I can't figure it out for
>>> > sure. What is happening is that whichever bullets are at the top of the
>>> > second page are being wrapped as if they were appearing on the first
>>> > page, which has a different layout structure.
>>> >
>>> > I've pasted a sanitized version of the tex file below. Any assistance
>>> > would be greatly appreciated!
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Ross Schulman
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [...]
>>> >
>>> > Lorem Manager
>>> > \startitemize[packed]
>>> >\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>>> >\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>>> >\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>>> >\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>>> > \stopitemize
>>>
>>> You can use the \testpage command to force a page break before the TeX
>>> mechanism to start a new page kicks in.
>>>
>>> \startitemize[inbetween={\testpage[2]\blank}]
>>>\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>>>\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>>>\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>>>\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>>> \stopitemize
>>>
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[NTG-context] Re: more register questions!
Hello Wolfgang and all,
I have been trying to extend this to handle endnotes. So far, I have not
succeeded; the number is always that of the last endnote.
I could possibly increment a counter for each endnote processed, but
that seems a hack.
--
Rik
On 2024-05-03 06:18, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Thomas A. Schmitz schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 17:01:
Hi,
making wonderful progress on my registers and translating from xml.
There is one thing I can't figure out (and I or some other good soul
may have asked in the past...). Is it possible to mark occurrences in
footnotes? Ideally, the entry in the register would look like
p. 100\high{20}
to show that the term occurs in note 20 on p. 100. But if that's
asking too much, I would be content with applying a processor (say,
italic) to these register entries. From the looks of the tuc file,
Context doesn't appear to "know" that a register entry is within a
footnote. But Hans never ceases to amaze me, so maybe there is a way
(short of applying special markup to these notes in the source)?
You can play with the following example, the main point use to use the
\setregisterentry command and pass the footnote counter with the third
(optional) argument.
\def\IndexPageCommand#1%
{#1\doifsomething
{\currentregisterpageuserdata{footnote}}
{\high{\currentregisterpageuserdata{footnote
\setupregister[index][pagecommand=\IndexPageCommand]
\starttext
\dorecurse{200}
{\samplefile{lorem}\expanded{\setregisterentry[index][entries=\recurselevel]}%
\samplefile{lorem}\footnote{xxx\expanded{\setregisterentry[index][entries=\recurselevel][footnote={\rawcountervalue[footnote]}]}}%
\samplefile{lorem}}
\page \placeindex
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: intercolumn pull quotes typesetting
Hi all, I am happy to share one way to get "pull quotes between two columns" (in a three columns layout). https://wiki.contextgarden.net/images/5/50/context_3columns_layout.pdf It's not based on Columns / ColumnSet / Page Columns. It just combines \startuseMPgraphic + build_parshape + \framed + \getshapetext (and several precautions regarding offsets, thicknesses, spacings, dimensions, box positioning...) It's not used in this case, but I discovered that \placelocalfootnotes and \reference \at \in etc... are fully functional with \getshapetext :-) The resulting layout isn't as complex as a newspaper, but a lot can be done (at the cost of some investment, but really, it's not that hard). LuaMetaTeX is definitely fun and pretty. Thanks devs and community. => One question <= Would it be possible to define several shapetex like \startshapetex[NAME1], \startshapetex[NAME2], in order to alternate the use of \getshapetext[NAME1] and \getshapetext[NAME2] because currently only one can be active at a time ? Garulfo 2 years ago... Le 13/03/2022 à 22:13, Garulfo a écrit : Hi all, what would be the prefered way to typeset pull quotes (with \startcolumns or even \startcolumnset if needed) between 2 columns. Examples: https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/45709/how-do-you-create-pull-quotes https://www.societal.fr/sites/societal/files/old_site/societal-46-6-boiteux-reperesettendances.pdf#page=2 Thanks for your ideas and solutions. Garulfo <> ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Hbox error with itemized list on second page
So, unfortunately while using `\testpage` helped in the version of the resume I
was working on at the time, I've encountered the error again now that some
different content is making the page break at a different point, and setting
`\testpage` as high as 6 is not fixing the problem. Is there something else I
can/should try?
Thanks very much,
Ross
On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 12:20 PM, Ross Schulman wrote:
> Thank you. Adding that did the trick!
>
> Best,
> Ross Schulman
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 11:47 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Ross Schulman schrieb am 30.04.2024 um 15:01:
>> > Hello,
>> > I'm attempting to format a resume in Context building off of a template
>> > I found online. I'm having an odd error with some bullets on the second
>> > page, however. I'm guessing it has something to do with my \definelayout
>> > for the second (and subsequent) pages, but I can't figure it out for
>> > sure. What is happening is that whichever bullets are at the top of the
>> > second page are being wrapped as if they were appearing on the first
>> > page, which has a different layout structure.
>> >
>> > I've pasted a sanitized version of the tex file below. Any assistance
>> > would be greatly appreciated!
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Ross Schulman
>> >
>> >
>> > [...]
>> >
>> > Lorem Manager
>> > \startitemize[packed]
>> >\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>> >\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>> >\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>> >\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>> > \stopitemize
>>
>> You can use the \testpage command to force a page break before the TeX
>> mechanism to start a new page kicks in.
>>
>> \startitemize[inbetween={\testpage[2]\blank}]
>>\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>>\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>>\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>>\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>> \stopitemize
>>
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[NTG-context] Re: transparent color
Bruce Horrocks schrieb am 06.05.2024 um 15:30:
On 6 May 2024, at 09:41, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context
wrote:
I would like to use a transparent version of an existing color. Thus
\definecolor[transparentcolor][color,t=0.2,a=1]
instead of
\definecolor[transparentcolor][r=..,g=..,b=..,t=0.2,a=1]
because I do not know the rgb values of the color that must be made
transparent, only its name.
How to accomplish?
The Wiki page <https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Color> gives the source files for
various sets of colours (built in, crayola etc) and the source has the RGB values in
a fairly obvious format.
\definecolor [wolley] [\colorcomponents{yellow},t=0.5,a=1]
\starttext
%\showcolorcomponents [yellow]
\framed[background=color,backgroundcolor=darkblue,foregroundcolor=yellow]{yellow}
\framed[background=color,backgroundcolor=darkblue,foregroundcolor=wolley]{wolley}
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: transparent color
> On 6 May 2024, at 09:41, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context > wrote: > > I would like to use a transparent version of an existing color. Thus > \definecolor[transparentcolor][color,t=0.2,a=1] > instead of > \definecolor[transparentcolor][r=..,g=..,b=..,t=0.2,a=1] > because I do not know the rgb values of the color that must be made > transparent, only its name. > > How to accomplish? The Wiki page <https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Color> gives the source files for various sets of colours (built in, crayola etc) and the source has the RGB values in a fairly obvious format. — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: more register questions!
Hi Wolfgang,
powerful and elegant, as always! I think I have a solution with xml; I
will have to test it more extensively with my complex real file; but
here comes, also for Hraban (if it works in real life, I'll add it to
the wiki...).
Thanks a lot!
Thomas
\startbuffer[test]
Dummy text.Dummy footnote.
Dummy text.Dummy footnote.
\stopbuffer
\startxmlsetups xml:testsetups
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{*}{-}
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{document|chapter|p|footnote|indexentry|index}{xml:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xml:testsetups}
\startxmlsetups xml:document
\xmlflush {#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:chapter
\xmlflush {#1} \page
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:p
\xmlflush {#1} \par
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:footnote
\footnote[\xmlatt{#1}{id}]{\xmlflush{#1}}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:indexentry
\xmldoiftext {#1} {ancestor::footnote}
{\setregisterentry
[index][keys:1=\xmlatt{#1}{key},entries:1=\xmlatt{#1}{key}][footnote={\rawcountervalue[footnote]}]}
{\setregisterentry[index][keys:1=\xmlatt{#1}{key},entries:1=\xmlatt{#1}{key}]}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:index
\page \placeregister [index]
\stopxmlsetups
\def\IndexPageCommand#1%
{#1\doifsomething
{\currentregisterpageuserdata{footnote}}
{\high{\currentregisterpageuserdata{footnote
\setupregister[index][pagecommand=\IndexPageCommand]
\starttext
\xmlprocessbuffer{main}{test}{}
\stoptext
On 5/3/24 12:18, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
You can play with the following example, the main point use to use the
\setregisterentry command and pass the footnote counter with the third
(optional) argument.
\def\IndexPageCommand#1%
{#1\doifsomething
{\currentregisterpageuserdata{footnote}}
{\high{\currentregisterpageuserdata{footnote
\setupregister[index][pagecommand=\IndexPageCommand]
\starttext
\dorecurse{200}
{\samplefile{lorem}\expanded{\setregisterentry[index][entries=\recurselevel]}%
\samplefile{lorem}\footnote{xxx\expanded{\setregisterentry[index][entries=\recurselevel][footnote={\rawcountervalue[footnote]}]}}%
\samplefile{lorem}}
\page \placeindex
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: more register questions!
Hi Massi,
yes, that was a very good idea! I can detect if the element
occurs within a footnote by testing
\xmldoiftext {#1} {ancestor::footnote}
and then apply a processor to these entries. That would be a good
solution for the time being.
Thanks and all best
Thomas
On 5/2/24 17:55, mf wrote:
I did something like that, with a processor that added a "n" after the
occurrence page number.
Since you typeset XML, maybe you can detect that an index (register)
reference happens inside a note from the DOM element you are typesetting.
Then you use a command like this:
\index[NoteProcessor->sortkey]{index term}
where NoteProcessor is defined like this:
\defineprocessor[NoteProcessor][right={\itx n}]
In this case I'm adding a smaller "n" to the right of the page number of
the occurrence.
Adding the \high style is not difficult:
\defineprocessor[NoteProcessor][right=\high{n}]
but replacing a fixed "n" with the footnote number is quite challenging.
The second argument of \defineprocessor has a "command=\...##1" option
that could be exploited, but I don't know exactly what gets passed to
that custom command as ##1; maybe the page number of the occurrence.
In that case, I'd look for a way to store the association between that
occurrence and the footnote number, and retrieve that in the custom
command.
Massi
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[NTG-context] Re: more register questions!
Thomas A. Schmitz schrieb am 02.05.2024 um 17:01:
Hi,
making wonderful progress on my registers and translating from xml.
There is one thing I can't figure out (and I or some other good soul
may have asked in the past...). Is it possible to mark occurrences in
footnotes? Ideally, the entry in the register would look like
p. 100\high{20}
to show that the term occurs in note 20 on p. 100. But if that's
asking too much, I would be content with applying a processor (say,
italic) to these register entries. From the looks of the tuc file,
Context doesn't appear to "know" that a register entry is within a
footnote. But Hans never ceases to amaze me, so maybe there is a way
(short of applying special markup to these notes in the source)?
You can play with the following example, the main point use to use the
\setregisterentry command and pass the footnote counter with the third
(optional) argument.
\def\IndexPageCommand#1%
{#1\doifsomething
{\currentregisterpageuserdata{footnote}}
{\high{\currentregisterpageuserdata{footnote
\setupregister[index][pagecommand=\IndexPageCommand]
\starttext
\dorecurse{200}
{\samplefile{lorem}\expanded{\setregisterentry[index][entries=\recurselevel]}%
\samplefile{lorem}\footnote{xxx\expanded{\setregisterentry[index][entries=\recurselevel][footnote={\rawcountervalue[footnote]}]}}%
\samplefile{lorem}}
\page \placeindex
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: more register questions!
Il 02/05/24 17:01, Thomas A. Schmitz ha scritto:
Hi,
making wonderful progress on my registers and translating from xml.
There is one thing I can't figure out (and I or some other good soul may
have asked in the past...). Is it possible to mark occurrences in
footnotes? Ideally, the entry in the register would look like
p. 100\high{20}
to show that the term occurs in note 20 on p. 100. But if that's asking
too much, I would be content with applying a processor (say, italic) to
these register entries. From the looks of the tuc file, Context doesn't
appear to "know" that a register entry is within a footnote. But Hans
never ceases to amaze me, so maybe there is a way (short of applying
special markup to these notes in the source)?
I did something like that, with a processor that added a "n" after the
occurrence page number.
Since you typeset XML, maybe you can detect that an index (register)
reference happens inside a note from the DOM element you are typesetting.
Then you use a command like this:
\index[NoteProcessor->sortkey]{index term}
where NoteProcessor is defined like this:
\defineprocessor[NoteProcessor][right={\itx n}]
In this case I'm adding a smaller "n" to the right of the page number of
the occurrence.
Adding the \high style is not difficult:
\defineprocessor[NoteProcessor][right=\high{n}]
but replacing a fixed "n" with the footnote number is quite challenging.
The second argument of \defineprocessor has a "command=\...##1" option
that could be exploited, but I don't know exactly what gets passed to
that custom command as ##1; maybe the page number of the occurrence.
In that case, I'd look for a way to store the association between that
occurrence and the footnote number, and retrieve that in the custom command.
Massi
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[NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
Am 01.05.24 um 09:44 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: but that should be sufficient, but to repeat Hraban's question: What would be the advantage of using the format module? The module provides features like - alignment of the verse lines - numbering of the lines (which isn't supported by \startlines unless you add the normal linenumbering mechanism) - support for lines which don't fit on a single page where the consecutive lines are indented but the module is outdated and relies on an old mkii style code base. A big difference between the \startlines environment and the format module is that the first treats each line in the input file as a separate line in the output while the format module requires begin/end tags for each line which works better for xml input. Thank you! Doesn’t sound like I should use it… Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
denisma...@mailbox.org schrieb am 30.04.2024 um 14:28:
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Wolfgang Schuster
Gesendet: Samstag, 27. April 2024 07:40
An: Denis Maier
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines
Denis Maier schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 19:52:
I see. But there's no command that could be used to simulate an empty line?
If not, me should I perhaps try to replicate the wrapper structure
from the XML source in context? (I'll also look into the format module
of
course.) What do you think?
Below is a different solution to your problem with works without \startlines
because you already mark up each individual line in the poem which make it
possible to add a linebreak in the output.
With \blank options (samepage) you can avoid pagebreaks between stanzas.
\startxmlsetups xml:test
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{*}{-}
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{doc|poem|stanza|line}{xml:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xml:test}
\startxmlsetups xml:doc
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:poem
\blank[line]
\xmlflush{#1}
\blank[back,line]
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:stanza
\xmlflush{#1}\blank[preference,line]
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:line
\xmlflush{#1}\blank[samepage,none]
\stopxmlsetups
\startbuffer[test]
The
lines
are
there!
The
lines
are
there!
The
lines
are
there!
\stopbuffer
\starttext
\samplefile{lorem}
\xmlprocessbuffer{test}{test}{}
\samplefile{lorem}
\stoptext
Thanks for this solution. I've had a quick look, and it seems to do exactly
what I need. My requirements are rather simple at the moment, but that should
be sufficient, but to repeat Hraban's question: What would be the advantage of
using the format module?
The module provides features like
- alignment of the verse lines
- numbering of the lines (which isn't supported by \startlines
unless you add the normal linenumbering mechanism)
- support for lines which don't fit on a single page where the
consecutive lines are indented
but the module is outdated and relies on an old mkii style code base.
A big difference between the \startlines environment and the format
module is that the first treats
each line in the input file as a separate line in the output while the
format module requires begin/end
tags for each line which works better for xml input.
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: Hbox error with itemized list on second page
Thank you. Adding that did the trick!
Best,
Ross Schulman
On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 11:47 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Ross Schulman schrieb am 30.04.2024 um 15:01:
> > Hello,
> > I'm attempting to format a resume in Context building off of a template
> > I found online. I'm having an odd error with some bullets on the second
> > page, however. I'm guessing it has something to do with my \definelayout
> > for the second (and subsequent) pages, but I can't figure it out for
> > sure. What is happening is that whichever bullets are at the top of the
> > second page are being wrapped as if they were appearing on the first
> > page, which has a different layout structure.
> >
> > I've pasted a sanitized version of the tex file below. Any assistance
> > would be greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ross Schulman
> >
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Lorem Manager
> > \startitemize[packed]
> >\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
> >\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
> >\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
> >\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
> > \stopitemize
>
> You can use the \testpage command to force a page break before the TeX
> mechanism to start a new page kicks in.
>
> \startitemize[inbetween={\testpage[2]\blank}]
>\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
>\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
> \stopitemize
>
> Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: Hbox error with itemized list on second page
Ross Schulman schrieb am 30.04.2024 um 15:01:
Hello,
I'm attempting to format a resume in Context building off of a template
I found online. I'm having an odd error with some bullets on the second
page, however. I'm guessing it has something to do with my \definelayout
for the second (and subsequent) pages, but I can't figure it out for
sure. What is happening is that whichever bullets are at the top of the
second page are being wrapped as if they were appearing on the first
page, which has a different layout structure.
I've pasted a sanitized version of the tex file below. Any assistance
would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Ross Schulman
[...]
Lorem Manager
\startitemize[packed]
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\stopitemize
You can use the \testpage command to force a page break before the TeX
mechanism to start a new page kicks in.
\startitemize[inbetween={\testpage[2]\blank}]
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\stopitemize
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Hbox error with itemized list on second page
Hello,
I'm attempting to format a resume in Context building off of a template I found
online. I'm having an odd error with some bullets on the second page, however.
I'm guessing it has something to do with my \definelayout for the second (and
subsequent) pages, but I can't figure it out for sure. What is happening is
that whichever bullets are at the top of the second page are being wrapped as
if they were appearing on the first page, which has a different layout
structure.
I've pasted a sanitized version of the tex file below. Any assistance would be
greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Ross Schulman
\usemodule[ipsum]
\setuppapersize[letter]
\setuppagenumbering[location=]
\definelayout[first]
[% horizontal
backspace=2.5in,
leftmargin=1.75in,
leftmargindistance=0.25in,
width=5.5in,
rightmargin=0in,
% vertical
topspace=0pt,
header=1.2in,
headerdistance=.1in,
height=middle,
footerdistance=0pt,
footer=\lineheight,
bottomspace=.5in]
\definelayout[rest]
[% horizontal
leftmargin=0in,
width=6.5in,
rightmargin=0in,
% % vertical
topspace=0pt,
header=1in,
headerdistance=.1in,
height=middle,
footerdistance=0pt,
footer=\lineheight,
bottomspace=.3in]
\definelayout[1][first]
\definelayout[2][rest]
\setupmarginblock
[location=left,
width=\leftmarginwidth,
align=flushright]
\usecolors[svg]
\definehead[contacts][title]
\setuphead
[contacts]
[
align=center,
page=no,
after={\thinrule\blank[big]}]
\definehead[topic][subject]
\setuphead
[topic]
[
after={\hairline}]
\defineitemgroup
[timeline]
[before=,
inbetween=,
width=6em]
\setuplines[before=,after=,command=\strut]
\definelayer[mybkgr][x=0mm,y=0mm,
width=\paperwidth,height=\paperheight]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background={mybkgr}]
\starttext
\setlayerframed
[mybkgr]
[]
[background=color,
framecolor=forestgreen,
backgroundcolor=forestgreen,
foregroundcolor=white,
width=\paperwidth,
height=\dimexpr\topspace+\headerheight\relax]
{\dontleavehmode{\tfd ROSS SCHULMAN}\blank[medium]
policy technologist
}
\startmarginblock
\topic{CONTACT}
\startlines
1234 Main St NW
Washington, DC 20011
\stoplines
\topic{LANGUAGES}
\startlines
English (Native Speaker)
Spanish (Conversational)
\stoplines
\topic{TECH}
\startlines
Rust
Javascript \letterampersand\space Typescript
Linux Administration
Google and Microsoft Office Suites
\stoplines
\stopmarginblock
\setupalign[flushleft]
\topic{EXPERIENCE}
\starttimeline
\sym{2021--Now}\color[forestgreen]{Lorem Ipsum Foundation}\hfill
\color[darkgrey]{\tfx San Francisco, CA (remote)}
Senior Fellow
\startitemize[packed]
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\stopitemize
\sym{2015--2021}\color[forestgreen]{Other Place About Lorem}\hfill
\color[darkgrey]{\tfx Washington, DC}
Senior Lorem Counsel
\startitemize[packed]
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\stopitemize
\sym{2014--2015}\color[forestgreen]{Lorems R Us}\hfill
\color[darkgrey]{\tfx Washington, DC}
Lorem Manager
\startitemize[packed]
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\stopitemize
\sym{2010--2014}\color[forestgreen]{Computer and Communications Industry
Association}\hfill
\color[darkgrey]{\tfx Washington, DC}
Lorem Project Manager
\startitemize[packed]
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\stopitemize
\sym{2005--2007}\color[forestgreen]{Center for Lorem Ipsum}\hfill
\color[darkgrey]{\tfx Washington, DC}
Program Associate
\startitemize[packed]
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\stopitemize
\stoptimeline
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: start/stopregister
On 4/26/2024 9:54 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On 4/26/24 9:30 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
And here I am again! Both in mkiv and in mkxl, start/stopregister does
not work when there is already an index entry before. Example below!
All best
Thomas
\setuppapersize [A6]
\starttext
A\index{A} B \page
A\startregister [index] {A} B\startregister [index] [B] {B}
\dorecurse {10} {\input tufte}
A\stopregister [index] {A} B\stopregister [index] [B]
\page
\placeregister[index]
\stoptext
And I'm not even sure if this is allowed to say anymore, but: works in
mkii...
That's because mkii is AI enhanced. Can you try this:
\setuppapersize [A6]
\starttext
A\index{A} B \page
\stopregister [index] [A]
B>
\stopregister [index] [B]
\page
\placeregister[index]
\stoptext
(Watch the [A] vs {A} usage where [A] is the label used for matching the
potentially weiord nested start/stop ... maybe we need different aliases
for these, like \fromregister and \toregister.)
Hans
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[NTG-context] Re: start/stopregister
On 4/26/24 9:30 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
And here I am again! Both in mkiv and in mkxl, start/stopregister does
not work when there is already an index entry before. Example below!
All best
Thomas
\setuppapersize [A6]
\starttext
A\index{A} B \page
A\startregister [index] {A} B\startregister [index] [B] {B}
\dorecurse {10} {\input tufte}
A\stopregister [index] {A} B\stopregister [index] [B]
\page
\placeregister[index]
\stoptext
And I'm not even sure if this is allowed to say anymore, but: works in
mkii...
Thomas
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[NTG-context] Re: start/stopregister
On 4/25/24 6:27 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
Ah, simple typo! After fixing abel to label, startregister gives the
expected results again! Thanks Hans! I may be back with more register
questions soon...
And here I am again! Both in mkiv and in mkxl, start/stopregister does
not work when there is already an index entry before. Example below!
All best
Thomas
\setuppapersize [A6]
\starttext
A\index{A} B \page
A\startregister [index] {A} B\startregister [index] [B] {B}
\dorecurse {10} {\input tufte}
A\stopregister [index] {A} B\stopregister [index] [B]
\page
\placeregister[index]
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: start/stopregister
On 4/25/2024 4:51 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
On 25 Apr 2024, at 16:45, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On 4/25/24 16:13, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
I’m using it like
\startregister[index][bibliografie]{Bibliografie}
…
\stopregister[index][bibliografie]
i.e. very similar to your example, and can confirm it doesn’t result in a page
range in the index. Also gives no error.
Since I've become an expert on tuc files since yesterday (ha!): if I compare the tuc from
a mkiv and a mkxl run, I see that mkiv produces an entry ["lastrealpage"]=9 in
the references table, mkxl doesn't. This appears to be the relevant bit, and it is
connected with the replacement of realpageno by c_realpageno in line 638 of strc-reg.lmt
references.lastrealpage = texgetcount(c_realpageno)
Let's seen if we can make Thomas more of an expert as he's zooming in on
the issue:
extendregister {
metadata = { name = name },
references = { abel = label },
}
Let me know if you't see it.
Possibly related: I noticed last week that mkxl does not update the legacy
counter \pageno any more for every page.
i'll check it
Hans
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[NTG-context] Re: start/stopregister
> On 25 Apr 2024, at 16:45, Thomas A. Schmitz
> wrote:
>
> On 4/25/24 16:13, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> I’m using it like
>> \startregister[index][bibliografie]{Bibliografie}
>> …
>> \stopregister[index][bibliografie]
>> i.e. very similar to your example, and can confirm it doesn’t result in a
>> page range in the index. Also gives no error.
>
> Since I've become an expert on tuc files since yesterday (ha!): if I compare
> the tuc from a mkiv and a mkxl run, I see that mkiv produces an entry
> ["lastrealpage"]=9 in the references table, mkxl doesn't. This appears to be
> the relevant bit, and it is connected with the replacement of realpageno by
> c_realpageno in line 638 of strc-reg.lmt
>
> references.lastrealpage = texgetcount(c_realpageno)
Possibly related: I noticed last week that mkxl does not update the legacy
counter \pageno any more for every page.
Best wishes,
Taco
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[NTG-context] Re: start/stopregister
On 4/25/24 16:13, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
I’m using it like
\startregister[index][bibliografie]{Bibliografie}
…
\stopregister[index][bibliografie]
i.e. very similar to your example, and can confirm it doesn’t result in
a page range in the index. Also gives no error.
Since I've become an expert on tuc files since yesterday (ha!): if I
compare the tuc from a mkiv and a mkxl run, I see that mkiv produces an
entry ["lastrealpage"]=9 in the references table, mkxl doesn't. This
appears to be the relevant bit, and it is connected with the replacement
of realpageno by c_realpageno in line 638 of strc-reg.lmt
references.lastrealpage = texgetcount(c_realpageno)
But that's as far as I could get...
Thomas
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[NTG-context] Re: start/stopregister
Am 25.04.24 um 15:44 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz:
Hi all,
has \startregister been superseded in luametatex or is it not yet
implemented? I tried to read strc-reg.lmt but couldn't figure out what
is going on. The following silly minimal test produces the expected
result with mkiv but not in mkxl.
All best
Thomas
\setuppapersize [A6]
\starttext
A\index{A} B\startregister [index] [B] {B}
\dorecurse {10} {\input tufte}
A\index{A} B\stopregister [index] [B]
\page
\placeregister[index]
\stoptext
I’m using it like
\startregister[index][bibliografie]{Bibliografie}
…
\stopregister[index][bibliografie]
i.e. very similar to your example, and can confirm it doesn’t result in
a page range in the index. Also gives no error.
Hraban
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[NTG-context] start/stopregister
Hi all,
has \startregister been superseded in luametatex or is it not yet
implemented? I tried to read strc-reg.lmt but couldn't figure out what
is going on. The following silly minimal test produces the expected
result with mkiv but not in mkxl.
All best
Thomas
\setuppapersize [A6]
\starttext
A\index{A} B\startregister [index] [B] {B}
\dorecurse {10} {\input tufte}
A\index{A} B\stopregister [index] [B]
\page
\placeregister[index]
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: what are the interaction between \showframe and \realpageno in \startuseMPgraphic ?
garu...@azules.eu schrieb am 20.04.2024 um 23:00:
I can not figure out why this progress bar only works when \showframe is
activated.
When you comment on \showframe, it's as if \realpageno is at zero.
(current version: 2024.04.01 08:59)
\showframe
\startuseMPgraphic{MonGraphisme_MP}
numeric n ; n := \number\realpageno ;
numeric m ; m := \number\lastpageno ;
numeric h ; h := \overlayheight ;
numeric w ; w := \overlaywidth ;
numeric e ; e := 3mm;
numeric r ; r := (((n-1)/(m-1))*w);
fill fullsquare xscaled w yscaled e shifted (w/2, h/2) withcolor darkblue ;
fill fullsquare xscaled r yscaled e shifted (r/2, h/2) withcolor darkred;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\defineoverlay [MonGraphisme_OL] [\useMPgraphic{MonGraphisme_MP}]
\setupbackgrounds [footer] [rightmargin] [background={MonGraphisme_OL}]
\starttext
\dorecurse{10}{\input tufte\page}
\stoptext
Any clue is warmly welcome
You need
\setupbackgrounds[state=repeat]
which is set when you use \showframe.
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: documentation: parameters of \setuplist
Am 24.04.24 um 01:00 schrieb Bruce Horrocks:
In the source there is a comment relating to location:
%D Regular list entries are bound to a specific location in order to get the
right
%D pagenumber etc.\ associated. When pushing something inbetween (in mkiv) it
ends
%D up directtly in the list. This is the default because otherwise users will
wonder
%D why spacing might get messed up (due to an unseen but present node). It is
%D possible to force a location by explicitly setting \type {location} to \type
%D {here}.
%D
%D Another way to force a certain order is to set the \type {order} variable
when
%D placing a list. The \type {command} option only pushes commands into the
right
%D order, and \type {all} orders all entries (which might be too much). In this
case
%D no specific location is needed with the inbetween method. Maybe additional
%D mechanisms show up some day. See \type {inbetween-001.tex} for an example.
I don't really understand what capability the comment is referring to let alone
be able to create an example demonstrating the difference.
Thank you, so it looks like "location=here" is only used with
\writebetweenlist to get the current page number.
Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: Why don't footnotes appear in floats or figures?
Okay, I've been trying many things with this \startpostponing code--if I
understand what's happening, its moving the figures to a later page. I'm not
sure that's quite ideal, its not fully working with my actual documents, and
leaves lots of empty white space, when I'm already in a situation where I need
to reduce page count.
So I thought an alternative route:
(1) have a code that checks "what is current footnote number?" that sets that
as a variable
\def\currentfoodnote{\somevariableincontextthatgetsfoodnotenumber}
(2) adjust my placefigure macro such that the footnote is outside the
placefigure, but color it white so its invisible:
\define\showafigure{
\cite[author2019]<--somehow hide this invisible
\placefigure{Caption\superscript{\currentfootnote}}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
<--this places a superscript number inside the caption, but it isn't the true
marker(3) in the caption, place a superscript number with value to
\currentfootnoteIts basically a fake footnote, just a superscript number of the
same value as the real footnote.
Shouldn't this result work? Any idea how I can get current footnote value?
--Joel
On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 07:22:24 AM MDT, vm via ntg-context
wrote:
On 22/04/2024 14:38, Joel via ntg-context wrote:
> Is this the correct way to be using the \startpostponing code (see
> example below)?
>
> \starttext
> \input knuth
> \startpostponing
> \placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
> A}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
> \stoppostponing
> \stoppostponing
double stop ?
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[NTG-context] Re: minwidth not working ?
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Wolfgang Schuster > Gesendet: Samstag, 20. April 2024 11:56 > An: Denis Maier > Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users ; denis.ma...@unibe.ch > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Re: minwidth not working ? > > Denis Maier schrieb am 19.04.2024 um 22:55: > > >> Wolfgang Schuster hat am > >> 19.04.2024 20:32 CEST geschrieben: > >> denis.ma...@unibe.ch schrieb am 10.04.2024 um 12:47: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Shouldn’t minwidth set a default minimal width for external figures? > >>> But this here does not work > >>> > >>> [...] > >>> > >>> Am I missing something here? > >> > >> There are no minwidth/minheight values for \externalfigure. > >> > >> Wolfgang > >> > > So the wiki is wrong here? > > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupexternalfigure > > Yes the comment at the end of page is wrong and the text about the strut > setting can also be removed, only the orientation value is missing in the > command table. > > Wolfgang Thanks you for the clarification, Wolfgang. I've changed the wiki page. Best, Denis ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Why don't footnotes appear in floats or figures?
I've managed to get a minimum working example. If you check, you'll see the
5th footnote inside a placefigure doesn't render anywhere:
\starttext
\input knuth
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
A}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\input knuth
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
B}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\input knuth
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
C}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\input knuth
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
D}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\input knuth
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
E}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\input knuth
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
F}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoptext
Is this the correct way to be using the \startpostponing code (see example
below)?
\starttext
\input knuth
\startpostponing
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
A}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoppostponing
\stoppostponing
\input knuth
\startpostponing
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
B}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoppostponing
\input knuth
\startpostponing
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
C}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoppostponing
\input knuth
\startpostponing
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
D}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoppostponing
\input knuth
\startpostponing
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
E}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoppostponing
\input knuth
\startpostponing
\placefigure{Caption\footnote{message
F}}{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]}
\stoppostponing
\stoptext
On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 02:31:30 AM MDT, Hans Hagen via ntg-context
wrote:
On 4/22/2024 2:45 AM, Joel via ntg-context wrote:
> I'm three days out from sending my work to an editor, and found some
> serious problem: many footnotes just aren't rendering.
>
> I have a history text that uses ConTeXt-SBL for the citations, as such,
> it has lots of footnotes. Sometimes the footnotes are just in the main
> text, but sometimes also in figure captions, inside floats, inside
> tables that are inside floats, inside tabulations inside floats, etc.
>
> What I find alarming is it is frequently not rendering all of the
> footnote messages at the bottom of the page. The actual footnote number
> within the body is rendered, but no number is listed in at the bottom of
> the page. So I might see a list of footnotes, for instance, on page 1, I
> only get footnotes 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6, but 4 was mysteriously skipped.
>
>
> ---
> 1 message
> 2 message
> 3 message
> 5 message
> 6 message
>
> After a lot of trial-and-error and checking logs and checking my BibTeX
> files for errors, running everything through BibTex Tidy, etc., and
> failures to make a minimum working example, I found a single pattern:
>
> If the footnote marker appears on the SAME page as the footnote text, it
> has no problem rendering the footnote. But, if ConTeXt decides to move a
> float a page or two later on--as it frequently seems to do---such that
> the footnote marker and footnote text at bottom of page should be on
> DIFFERENT pages, the footnote message at the bottom of the page won't
> render.
>
> I've seen some 2+ year old mailing list posts suggesting ConTeXt might
> have issues with footnotes; they appear to be similar to my issue--is
> that still a problem? Is there a fix or workaround? Old fixes I could
> finding in the mailing list don't seem to work with current versions of
> ConTeXt anymore.
you need to consider the complications of such notes ...
- tex needs to take the notes into account when determining a page break
- it does so by the insert mechanism
- when floats can't be placed they also become inserts (top and bottom)
- when there are inserts in inserts th eproblem becomes more complex (so
notes inside floats)
- in traditional tex deeply burried inserts disappearm less so in lmtx
There are things that are hard to get right. This works:
\startpostponing
\startplacefigure[location=here,title={test \footnote{oeps 1}}]
\blackrule[width=1tw]
here
\footnote{hello 1} and
\footnote{hello 2} and
\footnote{hello 3} done
\stopplacefigure
\stoppostponing
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{tufte}\par}
Because here the inserts (notes) will migrate but even then one can get
them out of order (unless we renumber, which then is sensitiev for
oscillation).
I occasionally wonder if top floats could be done more directly but
bottom notes still would have an out-of-sync problem
-
Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
Ridd
[NTG-context] Re: Why don't footnotes appear in floats or figures?
On 4/22/2024 2:45 AM, Joel via ntg-context wrote:
I'm three days out from sending my work to an editor, and found some
serious problem: many footnotes just aren't rendering.
I have a history text that uses ConTeXt-SBL for the citations, as such,
it has lots of footnotes. Sometimes the footnotes are just in the main
text, but sometimes also in figure captions, inside floats, inside
tables that are inside floats, inside tabulations inside floats, etc.
What I find alarming is it is frequently not rendering all of the
footnote messages at the bottom of the page. The actual footnote number
within the body is rendered, but no number is listed in at the bottom of
the page. So I might see a list of footnotes, for instance, on page 1, I
only get footnotes 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6, but 4 was mysteriously skipped.
---
1 message
2 message
3 message
5 message
6 message
After a lot of trial-and-error and checking logs and checking my BibTeX
files for errors, running everything through BibTex Tidy, etc., and
failures to make a minimum working example, I found a single pattern:
If the footnote marker appears on the SAME page as the footnote text, it
has no problem rendering the footnote. But, if ConTeXt decides to move a
float a page or two later on--as it frequently seems to do---such that
the footnote marker and footnote text at bottom of page should be on
DIFFERENT pages, the footnote message at the bottom of the page won't
render.
I've seen some 2+ year old mailing list posts suggesting ConTeXt might
have issues with footnotes; they appear to be similar to my issue--is
that still a problem? Is there a fix or workaround? Old fixes I could
finding in the mailing list don't seem to work with current versions of
ConTeXt anymore.
you need to consider the complications of such notes ...
- tex needs to take the notes into account when determining a page break
- it does so by the insert mechanism
- when floats can't be placed they also become inserts (top and bottom)
- when there are inserts in inserts th eproblem becomes more complex (so
notes inside floats)
- in traditional tex deeply burried inserts disappearm less so in lmtx
There are things that are hard to get right. This works:
\startpostponing
\startplacefigure[location=here,title={test \footnote{oeps 1}}]
\blackrule[width=1tw]
here
\footnote{hello 1} and
\footnote{hello 2} and
\footnote{hello 3} done
\stopplacefigure
\stoppostponing
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{tufte}\par}
Because here the inserts (notes) will migrate but even then one can get
them out of order (unless we renumber, which then is sensitiev for
oscillation).
I occasionally wonder if top floats could be done more directly but
bottom notes still would have an out-of-sync problem
-
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tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl
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[NTG-context] Why don't footnotes appear in floats or figures?
I'm three days out from sending my work to an editor, and found some serious problem: many footnotes just aren't rendering. I have a history text that uses ConTeXt-SBL for the citations, as such, it has lots of footnotes. Sometimes the footnotes are just in the main text, but sometimes also in figure captions, inside floats, inside tables that are inside floats, inside tabulations inside floats, etc. What I find alarming is it is frequently not rendering all of the footnote messages at the bottom of the page. The actual footnote number within the body is rendered, but no number is listed in at the bottom of the page. So I might see a list of footnotes, for instance, on page 1, I only get footnotes 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6, but 4 was mysteriously skipped. ---1 message2 message3 message5 message6 message After a lot of trial-and-error and checking logs and checking my BibTeX files for errors, running everything through BibTex Tidy, etc., and failures to make a minimum working example, I found a single pattern: If the footnote marker appears on the SAME page as the footnote text, it has no problem rendering the footnote. But, if ConTeXt decides to move a float a page or two later on--as it frequently seems to do---such that the footnote marker and footnote text at bottom of page should be on DIFFERENT pages, the footnote message at the bottom of the page won't render. I've seen some 2+ year old mailing list posts suggesting ConTeXt might have issues with footnotes; they appear to be similar to my issue--is that still a problem? Is there a fix or workaround? Old fixes I could finding in the mailing list don't seem to work with current versions of ConTeXt anymore. --Joel___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] what are the interaction between \showframe and \realpageno in \startuseMPgraphic ?
I can not figure out why this progress bar only works when \showframe is
activated.
When you comment on \showframe, it's as if \realpageno is at zero.
(current version: 2024.04.01 08:59)
\showframe
\startuseMPgraphic{MonGraphisme_MP}
numeric n ; n := \number\realpageno ;
numeric m ; m := \number\lastpageno ;
numeric h ; h := \overlayheight ;
numeric w ; w := \overlaywidth ;
numeric e ; e := 3mm;
numeric r ; r := (((n-1)/(m-1))*w);
fill fullsquare xscaled w yscaled e shifted (w/2, h/2) withcolor darkblue ;
fill fullsquare xscaled r yscaled e shifted (r/2, h/2) withcolor darkred;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\defineoverlay [MonGraphisme_OL] [\useMPgraphic{MonGraphisme_MP}]
\setupbackgrounds [footer] [rightmargin] [background={MonGraphisme_OL}]
\starttext
\dorecurse{10}{\input tufte\page}
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: minwidth not working ?
Denis Maier schrieb am 19.04.2024 um 22:55: Wolfgang Schuster hat am 19.04.2024 20:32 CEST geschrieben: denis.ma...@unibe.ch schrieb am 10.04.2024 um 12:47: Hi, Shouldn’t minwidth set a default minimal width for external figures? But this here does not work [...] Am I missing something here? There are no minwidth/minheight values for \externalfigure. Wolfgang So the wiki is wrong here? https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupexternalfigure Yes the comment at the end of page is wrong and the text about the strut setting can also be removed, only the orientation value is missing in the command table. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Weird (?) float placement for specific widths of image
On 4/19/24 17:48, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> just a quick follow up on this one. Can anyone reproduce this?
Hi Denis,
I can reproduce it.
> Would be good to know how this can be fixed. I have this in a real
> document, and as I’m typesetting a XML source I cannot just adjust
> slightly adjust the dimensions to get rid of that.
It seems that you can place the figures somehow
(https://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/qrcs/setup-en.pdf#page=169):
See the extreme example:
\showframe\showgrid\showstruts
\setupexternalfigures
[location={local,global,default}]
\starttext
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
height=.5\textheight,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
height=.3\textheight,
%height=.4\textheight,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
width=3cm,
%width=2cm,
]}
\placefigure[inleft]{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm]}
\placefigure[inright]{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm]}
\stoptext
Just in case it helps,
Pablo
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[NTG-context] Re: minwidth not working ?
On 4/19/24 17:51, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> another follow up. Can anyone confirm this issue? Is there a way to set
> the minimal width of graphics?
Hi Denis,
maximum widht or height work fine, but their minimum counterparts seem
not to be working at all:
\showframe
\starttext
\doloopoverlist{none, width, height, maxwidth, maxheight}
{\externalfigure[cow.pdf][\recursestring=.125\textwidth]}
\page
\doloopoverlist{none, width, height, minwidth, minheight}
{\externalfigure[cow.pdf][\recursestring=.33\textwidth]}
\stoptext
Just to confirm the issue,
Pablo
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[NTG-context] Re: Weird (?) float placement for specific widths of image
Hi again,
just a quick follow up on this one. Can anyone reproduce this?
Would be good to know how this can be fixed. I have this in a real document,
and as I'm typesetting a XML source I cannot just adjust slightly adjust the
dimensions to get rid of that.
Best,
Denis
Von: denisma...@mailbox.org
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. April 2024 13:37
An: 'ntg-context@ntg.nl'
Betreff: Weird (?) float placement for specific widths of image
Hi,
another graphics/floats question: consider the following example
%
\setupexternalfigures
[location={local,global,default}]
\starttext
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
height=.5\textheight,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
height=.3\textheight,
%height=.4\textheight,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
width=3cm,
%width=2cm,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm]}
\stoptext%
On the first page, the images appear stacked above each other while on the
second page they appear next to each other.
It took me some time to reproduce this behaviour, and I can't claim to
understand what is happening. But it seems to be related to the specific
widths of the images. When I change them to other values the behaviour
disappears. Is this a bug? Anything I can do about this?
Best
Denis
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[NTG-context] Re: How to isolate serious errors from warnings?
On 4/18/2024 8:26 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 18.04.24 um 02:09 schrieb Joel via ntg-context: I'm about to have a lengthy (2,000+ page) document published. Normally if it compiles and looks okay, I regard that as meaning no errors appeared, but I've noticed that sometimes ConTeXt will still compile, even if something isn't displayed on screen as it should: (1) I tried placing a table inside a startitemize environment, as instead of it not compiling, it left a message in the document warning that wasn't supported. (2) In another case, I had an image that ConTeXt couldn't find, as I mispelled the filenmame, and it fully compiled and made a PDF, without me noticing. (3) Or maybe in some case, a font couldn't be found for a specific character, so a single character in the file isn't displaying. Those are just some examples; I intended for something to be printed on the PDF, but it isn't showing there. Since a document of this size will have a lot of messages, is there a way to adjust the settings, from "show everything" to "show some" to "show only serious errors"? Or maybe to use > to send the errors to another file for careful study? (using Linux if that matters) You can enable trackers like \enabletrackers[figures.*] But that just gives more log messages for debugging. You get the list of all trackers with: context --global m-trackers.mkiv For your use case, directives are more helpful, like \enabledirectives[logs.errors=*] (i.e. break at every error) AFAIK that just handles missing characters, references and modules ATM, but this information might be outdated. You get all directives with context --global m-directives.mkiv often the log files has some summaries at the end - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
Am 17.04.24 um 23:25 schrieb Garulfo: - exactly, it's not a question of proposing new documents, but of proposing another complementary way of accessing and browsing existing ones. - Actually, the wiki is (or can be) a hub for the 4 needs: - "Reference" like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead - "How-To Guides" like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles - "Tutorials": - hosted https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Detailed_Example - linked https://github.com/mpsmath/stepbystep - "Explanation" : mostly linked manuals and books https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead and https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles are examples of how difficult it can be to understand where to find a particular information. It might be worth keeping only the key examples on reference pages like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/*** and moving the "how-to" examples to a separate page (or pages). I agree. Let’s accept this as a rule for further wiki editing. Also, explain parameters with top priority in Command/setup* pages (keeping them in Command/define* pages etc. doesn’t hurt, but at least experienced users should know where to find something without searching). Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: How to isolate serious errors from warnings?
Am 18.04.24 um 02:09 schrieb Joel via ntg-context: I'm about to have a lengthy (2,000+ page) document published. Normally if it compiles and looks okay, I regard that as meaning no errors appeared, but I've noticed that sometimes ConTeXt will still compile, even if something isn't displayed on screen as it should: (1) I tried placing a table inside a startitemize environment, as instead of it not compiling, it left a message in the document warning that wasn't supported. (2) In another case, I had an image that ConTeXt couldn't find, as I mispelled the filenmame, and it fully compiled and made a PDF, without me noticing. (3) Or maybe in some case, a font couldn't be found for a specific character, so a single character in the file isn't displaying. Those are just some examples; I intended for something to be printed on the PDF, but it isn't showing there. Since a document of this size will have a lot of messages, is there a way to adjust the settings, from "show everything" to "show some" to "show only serious errors"? Or maybe to use > to send the errors to another file for careful study? (using Linux if that matters) You can enable trackers like \enabletrackers[figures.*] But that just gives more log messages for debugging. You get the list of all trackers with: context --global m-trackers.mkiv For your use case, directives are more helpful, like \enabledirectives[logs.errors=*] (i.e. break at every error) AFAIK that just handles missing characters, references and modules ATM, but this information might be outdated. You get all directives with context --global m-directives.mkiv Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] How to isolate serious errors from warnings?
I'm about to have a lengthy (2,000+ page) document published. Normally if it compiles and looks okay, I regard that as meaning no errors appeared, but I've noticed that sometimes ConTeXt will still compile, even if something isn't displayed on screen as it should: (1) I tried placing a table inside a startitemize environment, as instead of it not compiling, it left a message in the document warning that wasn't supported. (2) In another case, I had an image that ConTeXt couldn't find, as I mispelled the filenmame, and it fully compiled and made a PDF, without me noticing. (3) Or maybe in some case, a font couldn't be found for a specific character, so a single character in the file isn't displaying. Those are just some examples; I intended for something to be printed on the PDF, but it isn't showing there. Since a document of this size will have a lot of messages, is there a way to adjust the settings, from "show everything" to "show some" to "show only serious errors"? Or maybe to use > to send the errors to another file for careful study? (using Linux if that matters) --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
Le 17/04/2024 à 13:57, Bruce Horrocks a écrit : On 14 Apr 2024, at 12:21, garu...@azules.eu wrote: Hi all, I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : I'd be more confident if you had started by saying "I've been using the Diátaxis for the last ten years and have used it on multiple projects". ;-) - https://www.diataxis.fr/ - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 2017 As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation by clarifying the purpose of each element. So I started a potential new "welcome page" : https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 The main lines would be : - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal with "how-to" cases, e.g. : - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to reallocate existing contents. Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. I'm going to be devil's advocate and say that the Context documentation is *already* in the Diátaxis framework - just not in one place on the Wiki. - There are at least two books, and a third being written but not yet released: these fit into the Tutorials and Explanation quadrants. - There are "My Way" guides linked from the Wiki and the PragmaADE website that fit into the "How-To Guides" quadrant. - thank you for these reminders - And the wiki itself is the "Reference" quadrant. Clearly these can always be better but they are there already. My recommendation would be to use the wiki as the reference quadrant and, apart from the first few "main pages" for people who land there from a web search, it should focus on being the reference manual. Beginners should be directed to the books. - Thanks again, the comments are helping to identify a robust method of distributing content across the quadrants. - exactly, it's not a question of proposing new documents, but of proposing another complementary way of accessing and browsing existing ones. - Actually, the wiki is (or can be) a hub for the 4 needs: - "Reference" like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead - "How-To Guides" like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles - "Tutorials": - hosted https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Detailed_Example - linked https://github.com/mpsmath/stepbystep - "Explanation" : mostly linked manuals and books https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead and https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles are examples of how difficult it can be to understand where to find a particular information. It might be worth keeping only the key examples on reference pages like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/*** and moving the "how-to" examples to a separate page (or pages). Regards, — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
> On 14 Apr 2024, at 12:21, garu...@azules.eu wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : I'd be more confident if you had started by saying "I've been using the Diátaxis for the last ten years and have used it on multiple projects". ;-) > - https://www.diataxis.fr/ > - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon > 2017 > > As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation > by clarifying the purpose of each element. > > So I started a potential new "welcome page" : > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 > > The main lines would be : > - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples > - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... > - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals > - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to > mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source > - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands > - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F > > To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should > be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", > for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal > with "how-to" cases, e.g. : > - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead > - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles > > If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to > reallocate existing contents. > > Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. I'm going to be devil's advocate and say that the Context documentation is *already* in the Diátaxis framework - just not in one place on the Wiki. - There are at least two books, and a third being written but not yet released: these fit into the Tutorials and Explanation quadrants. - There are "My Way" guides linked from the Wiki and the PragmaADE website that fit into the "How-To Guides" quadrant. - And the wiki itself is the "Reference" quadrant. Clearly these can always be better but they are there already. My recommendation would be to use the wiki as the reference quadrant and, apart from the first few "main pages" for people who land there from a web search, it should focus on being the reference manual. Beginners should be directed to the books. Regards, — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
Am 14.04.24 um 21:45 schrieb Peter Hopcroft via ntg-context: It would be great if the main page actually said what Context does. In my poster (still WIP) I wrote: start --- The “infamous” alternative to LaTeX While most designers use graphical tools, there are still areas where code-based typesetting systems are fun, make sense or are even superior. While LaTeX is the most known of these, ConTeXt is used by a growing minority of ambitioned enthusiasts around the world. The small but active and creative community of ConTeXt users and developers is always driving TeX development over new frontiers: NTS, MetaFun, Oriental TeX, LuaTeX, mplib, LuaMetaTeX… They’re also dubbed the incisors (AKA cutting edge) of the dinosaur of Open Source. ConTeXt is aimed at creative users, known for advanced features like extensive font control and direct XML processing, with a deep integration of Lua and MetaPost. --- ConTeXt was invented in the 1990s by Hans Hagen and Ton Otten of the Dutch company “Pragma Advanced Document Engineering” for typesetting schoolbooks. Taco Hoekwater refactored the TeX source code to create LuaTeX which was further developed into LuaMetaTeX by Hans Hagen (and lately Mikael Sundqvist for refined math typography). --- “To be fair, switching to the ConTeXt way of thinking and doing things was not an overnight process […]. But once I got used to it, I could not imagine going back to LaTeX. I’ll go even further and say that, in my view, ConTeXt is the future of TeX. (Prof. Idris Samawi Hamid, 2009) Source: www.tug.org/interviews/hamid.html --- “ConTeXt is LaTeX done right. It is simple, flexible and powerful.” (J. U. Hasecke on Mastodon, 2022) --- Is ConTeXt for me? If you want … * to design your own layout * best quality math typesetting * to use Lua functions e.g. for processing data * deep integration of a graphics language (MetaPost) * to process XML input * no package conflicts * to use OpenType features * consistent setup commands * to place stuff on layers * visual debugging features * to have a lean, but mighty TeX system * to typeset much faster than with LaTeX * high quality Arabic typography … then ConTeXt is for you! --- stop ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \getmarking for top at the current page
Dear list,
I've got a problem. Not the first one, but the first one to contribute to the
list. ;)
system> ConTeXt ver: 2024.04.01 08:59 LMTX fmt: 2024.4.12 int:
english/english
system> 'cont-new.mkxl' loaded
%==
%==
\definehead[Datum][subsubsubject]
\startsetups[Test]
Pr=(\getmarking[Datum][previous])~
Nx=(\getmarking[Datum][next])~
Fi=(\getmarking[Datum][first])~
La=(\getmarking[Datum][last])~
Tp=(\getmarking[Datum][top])~
Bt=(\getmarking[Datum][bottom])~
Cu=(\getmarking[Datum][current])~
\stopsetups
\setupheadertexts[text]
[\setups{Test}][]
[\setups{Test}][]
\setuppagenumbering[location=footer]
\starttext
\startDatum[title={secA}]%
\dorecurse{50}{aaa }
\pagebreak
\dorecurse{50}{aaa }
\stopDatum
\startDatum[title={secB}]%
\dorecurse{630}{bbb }
\stopDatum
\startDatum[title={secC}]%
\dorecurse{50}{ccc }
\stopDatum
\startDatum[title={secD}]%
\dorecurse{50}{ddd }
\stopDatum
\startDatum[title={secE}]%
\dorecurse{50}{eee }
\stopDatum
\stoptext
%==
%==
I'd like to write the marking of the very first text at the current page to the
header. That seems to be a bit tricky, at least for me. (I'm afraid that
\getmarking[xxx][top] was intended for that and it is not feasible at all.)
At page 1 the header should read "secA", at page 2 again "secA" (because the
very first text belongs to "secA"), and at page 3 "secC" (because the very
first text (the section title) belongs to "secC"). Unfortunatly \getmarking[][]
does not behave like I expacted.
I understand the keywords of \getmarking in the wiki
(https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/getmarking) as listed below:
• previous: marking at the bottom of the page BEFORE the current page (no page
before then empty)
• next: marking at the top of the page AFTER the current page (no page after
then bottom of current page)
• top: marking at the top of the current page
• bottom: marking at the bottom of the current page
• first: first marking that starts at the current page (no first than behaving
like top)
• last: last marking that starts at the current page (no last than behaving
like bottom)
• current: last stored marking while deciding on pagebreaking between the
current page and the (potential) following page
• default: first
According to these thoughts, I started with \getmarking[Datum][top]. But "top"
seems not to work, there is no difference between "top" and "first", "top"
behaves like "first".
My second thought: Generally \getmarking[Datum][first] would be perfect, so
I've thought something like
\doifelse{\fetchmark[Datum][next] of the page before the current
page}{\fetchmark[Datum][previous]}
{\getmarking[Datum][previous]}
{\getmarking[Datum][first]}
could work. (Honestly I don't know how to do "\fetchmark[Datum][next] of the
page before the current page}". The first page would need a special treatment
too.)
But: At page 2 \getmarking[Datum][next] (Nx) contains "secB" but at top of page
3 is not "secB" but "secC". So \getmarking[Datum][next] does not seem to
contain the correct information I need, therefore I don't get any further.
Any ideas: How do I write the marking of the very first text at the current
page to the header?
Thank you in advance, Matthias
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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
It would be great if the main page actually said what Context does. > On 15/04/2024, at 2:18 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > > Hi Garulfo, > > I’m not against the “new order”, but I’d keep the colorful subject tiles. > Different accesses are good IMO (as long as it doesn’t get to convoluted). > > I’d say updating, sorting, restructuring pages is more important than a new > start page. > > Yes, please sort out reference vs. tutorials! > > Often examples make sense in the reference pages, so the distinction is a bit > fuzzy, but there are enough where a subject/tutorial page would make more > sense than examples spread over several single command pages. > > We could also define if the “main” reference page (with examples) is > \definestuff, \setupstuff, or \stuff – IMO \setupstuff makes the most sense, > since usually the others inherit from it. > > Often enough, parameters aren’t explained in the reference pages; sometimes > you can find examples using them, but there are too many holes. I tried to > fix that where I could, but too often I don’t understand enough of the > sources to make sense of some setting. > > For wiki contributors, it might make sense to combine the markup pages – in > many pages e.g. is used where would make more > sense; often \starttext … \stoptext is not necessary and just blows up > examples; markup is generally somewhat chaotic (e.g. , , or ``?). > > Hraban > >> Am 14.04.24 um 13:21 schrieb garu...@azules.eu: >> I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : >> - https://www.diataxis.fr/ >> - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon >> 2017 >> As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the >> documentation by clarifying the purpose of each element. >> So I started a potential new "welcome page" : >> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 >> The main lines would be : >> - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples >> - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not >> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... >> - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals >> - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to >> mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source >> - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands >> - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F >> To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages >> should be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", >> for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to >> deal with "how-to" cases, e.g. : >> - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead >> - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles >> If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to >> reallocate existing contents. >> Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. >> Garulfo >> ___ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl >> webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) >> archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context >> wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net >> ___ > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
Hi Garulfo, I’m not against the “new order”, but I’d keep the colorful subject tiles. Different accesses are good IMO (as long as it doesn’t get to convoluted). I’d say updating, sorting, restructuring pages is more important than a new start page. Yes, please sort out reference vs. tutorials! Often examples make sense in the reference pages, so the distinction is a bit fuzzy, but there are enough where a subject/tutorial page would make more sense than examples spread over several single command pages. We could also define if the “main” reference page (with examples) is \definestuff, \setupstuff, or \stuff – IMO \setupstuff makes the most sense, since usually the others inherit from it. Often enough, parameters aren’t explained in the reference pages; sometimes you can find examples using them, but there are too many holes. I tried to fix that where I could, but too often I don’t understand enough of the sources to make sense of some setting. For wiki contributors, it might make sense to combine the markup pages – in many pages e.g. is used where would make more sense; often \starttext … \stoptext is not necessary and just blows up examples; markup is generally somewhat chaotic (e.g. , , or ``?). Hraban Am 14.04.24 um 13:21 schrieb garu...@azules.eu: I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : - https://www.diataxis.fr/ - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 2017 As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation by clarifying the purpose of each element. So I started a potential new "welcome page" : https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 The main lines would be : - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal with "how-to" cases, e.g. : - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to reallocate existing contents. Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. Garulfo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - question about Command/ pages which start with a space character
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 14.04.2024 um 14:53: Am 14.04.24 um 14:46 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: garu...@azules.eu schrieb am 14.04.2024 um 12:41: Hi all, Is it on purpose that 128 pages "https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/ " start with a space character ? I didn't find an explanation in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command For example, these two pages exist : - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_startbuffer If it is on purpose: - What is the purpose, and which page should contain which documentation? The command pages which start with an underscore are probably leftovers when Taco changed a page from manual command descriptions to auto generated tables. In the process to change the page he makes a copy of the current page with an underscore at the beginning which is deleted after the change but it's possible he forgot to delete a few of them. When you notice no difference between both versions of a command page you can delete all of the forgotten pages. No! These are the general pages in opposite to instance pages, e.g. "startsection" and "startchapter" are instances of "_startsection"? https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_placefloat is the general page for the instances placefigure, placetable etc. My bad, thank you for the correction! Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - question about Command/ pages which start with a space character
Am 14.04.24 um 14:46 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: garu...@azules.eu schrieb am 14.04.2024 um 12:41: Hi all, Is it on purpose that 128 pages "https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/ " start with a space character ? I didn't find an explanation in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command For example, these two pages exist : - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_startbuffer If it is on purpose: - What is the purpose, and which page should contain which documentation? The command pages which start with an underscore are probably leftovers when Taco changed a page from manual command descriptions to auto generated tables. In the process to change the page he makes a copy of the current page with an underscore at the beginning which is deleted after the change but it's possible he forgot to delete a few of them. When you notice no difference between both versions of a command page you can delete all of the forgotten pages. No! These are the general pages in opposite to instance pages, e.g. "startsection" and "startchapter" are instances of "_startsection"? https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_placefloat is the general page for the instances placefigure, placetable etc. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - question about Command/ pages which start with a space character
garu...@azules.eu schrieb am 14.04.2024 um 12:41: Hi all, Is it on purpose that 128 pages "https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/ " start with a space character ? I didn't find an explanation in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command For example, these two pages exist : - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_startbuffer If it is on purpose: - What is the purpose, and which page should contain which documentation? The command pages which start with an underscore are probably leftovers when Taco changed a page from manual command descriptions to auto generated tables. In the process to change the page he makes a copy of the current page with an underscore at the beginning which is deleted after the change but it's possible he forgot to delete a few of them. When you notice no difference between both versions of a command page you can delete all of the forgotten pages. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
Hi all, I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : - https://www.diataxis.fr/ - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 2017 As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation by clarifying the purpose of each element. So I started a potential new "welcome page" : https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 The main lines would be : - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal with "how-to" cases, e.g. : - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to reallocate existing contents. Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. Garulfo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Wiki - question about Command/ pages which start with a space character
Hi all, Is it on purpose that 128 pages "https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/ " start with a space character ? I didn't find an explanation in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command For example, these two pages exist : - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_startbuffer If it is on purpose: - What is the purpose, and which page should contain which documentation? If it is not: - Is there a way to automatically merge the content of the couple of pages, and to remove the "wrong" pages, or should it be done manually ? Thanks for your help. List : Command/ attachment Command/ background Command/ bar Command/ beginblock Command/ button Command/ characterkerning Command/ comment Command/ completecombinedlist Command/ completelistoffloats Command/ completelistofsorts Command/ completelistofsynonyms Command/ completeregister Command/ copylabeltext Command/ ctxfunction Command/ ctxfunctiondefinition Command/ currentlabel Command/ delimitedtext Command/ description Command/ enumeration Command/ fence Command/ fraction Command/ framed Command/ framedtext Command/ getbuffer Command/ hbox Command/ help Command/ high Command/ highlight Command/ label Command/ labellanguage Command/ labeltext Command/ labeltexts Command/ language Command/ leftlabeltext Command/ linenote Command/ low Command/ lowhigh Command/ lowmidhigh Command/ margindata Command/ mathcommand Command/ mathdoubleextensible Command/ mathextensible Command/ mathframed Command/ mathmatrix Command/ mathornament Command/ mathoverextensible Command/ mathovertextextensible Command/ mathradical Command/ mathtriplet Command/ mathunderextensible Command/ mathundertextextensible Command/ mathunstacked Command/ nextparagraphs Command/ note Command/ ornament Command/ paragraphs Command/ placecombinedlist Command/ placefloat Command/ placelistoffloats Command/ placelistofsorts Command/ placelistofsynonyms Command/ placement Command/ placepairedbox Command/ placeregister Command/ presetlabeltext Command/ referenceformat Command/ register Command/ rightlabeltext Command/ script Command/ section Command/ seeregister Command/ setupcombinedlist Command/ setupitemgroup Command/ setuplabeltext Command/ setuppairedbox Command/ setupregister Command/ shift Command/ sorting Command/ startattachment Command/ startbackground Command/ startbuffer Command/ startcolumnset Command/ startcomment Command/ startdelimitedtext Command/ startdescription Command/ starteffect Command/ startenumeration Command/ startfittingpage Command/ startfloattext Command/ startformula Command/ startframedtext Command/ starthelp Command/ startindentedtext Command/ startitemgroup Command/ startlabeltext Command/ startlinenote Command/ startlines Command/ startmakeup Command/ startmathalignment Command/ startmathcases Command/ startmathmatrix Command/ startmixedcolumns Command/ startnarrower Command/ startnote Command/ startpagecolumns Command/ startparagraphs Command/ startparallel Command/ startplacefloat Command/ startplacepairedbox Command/ startsection Command/ startsectionblock Command/ startstartstop Command/ startstop Command/ startstyle Command/ starttabulate Command/ starttextbackground Command/ starttyping Command/ startviewerlayer Command/ startxtable Command/ stoplinenote Command/ style Command/ synonym Command/ textbackground Command/ textnote Command/ tooltip Command/ type Command/ typebuffer Command/ unit ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Most recent context doesn't like synctex?
Thanks for the quick reply. On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 09:18 (+0200), Hans Hagen wrote: > On 4/13/2024 12:39 AM, Jim wrote: >> Hi, >> I have both TeXlive 2024 and the stand-alone ConTeXt distribution on my >> system. >> Recently, the stand-alone ConTeXt distribution seems to not create a >> synctex file any more. Specifically, >> /usr/local/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/context --once --texutil >> --synctex=1 --nonstop file.tex >> does not create a .synctex file (and deletes it, if it is there), whereas >> the TeXlive version >> /usr/local/texlive/2024/bin/x86_64-linux/context --once --texutil >> --synctex=1 --nonstop nwg_newsletter_2024_04.tex >> does create the .synctex file. >> The ConTeXt distribution version *does* create the file if --nonstop is >> *not* used. Knowing that, I can work around this for now, although >> emacs+auctex probably won't be happy without --nonstop. >> I updated the stand-alone ConTeXt a few minutes ago, so I'm up to date on >> that. >> Is this a bug introduced by some recent change? > it's more a feature I guess one person's bug is another person's feature. :-) > - Mikael S and i spend some time with editor/viewer combinations on linux in > order to find ways around the different synctex libs that they use > - as a result we could make most work ok Are these recent changes? And should emacs+auctex+PDFview work now? > - we assume that synctex is set up in the document with > \setupsynctex[state=start] > \setupsynctex[state=repeat] % less efficient but gets around issue I haven't been using either of those, since auctex does The Right Thing for me. Or, at least, it used to. > - when context is run 'headless' (on a server) it's often done in > batchmode because one knows that the style works and in that case synctex > makes no sense so we disable it; this avoids the need to patch the style I (think I) see what you are saying, but if one explicitly uses --synctex on the command line, should that not over-ride the over-ride? Or, put another way, would the following not make sense: if --synctex is used on the command line create synctex file else if --nonstop is used on the command line do not create the synctex file else if \setupsynctex[...] is used in the source file create the synctex file else do not create the synctex file > - the manual has been updates Ummm... I hunted around for a while, but I did not find out which manual was updated. The synctex wiki page has not been updated, nor has the "workflow support in context" manual. Can you tell me which manual I should go look at? > - running context in nonstop mode makes little sense Guessing wildly, I assume the auctex author(s) didn't want processes sitting there waiting for input on errors, like plain TeX would normally do. But perhaps the addition of --nonstopmode for ConTeXt is incorrect and/or redundant in April of 2024. > (maybe, as power user, Mikael remembers more details) Mikael? Any thoughts to share? Cheers. Jim ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Back in the 90s
On 4/13/2024 2:12 PM, Riviera Taylor wrote: Hello, I was reading about the history of ConTeXt in the Not So Short Introduction To ConTeXt and I have a historical question. I noticed that the PDF specification was published in 1993 yet ConTeXt was invented in 1991. The book suggests that PDF output was handled by the PdfTeX engine in MKII in 2005. What sort of output did the software produce before PdfTeX was introduced? Was this the same as the output produced by the software before the publication of the PDF specification? 2005 is when we started with luatex which is a follow up on pdftex, and pdftex is more a mid 90's thing; we immediately adopted pdftex (which made some believe that context depended on pdftex which is not true) anyway, we started with dvi which needs a postprocessor to go to some printer format like specific hp or more general postscript but also can drive viewers we went from epson dot matrix printer -> early 300 dpi laser -> 600 dpi laser printer -> high speed oce 512 dpi printer (metric) -> high speed oce 600 dpi printer (+ crappy canon color laser printer) -> fast page-wide hp color inkjet office printer in mkii all is controlled by backend drivers, that use so called specials to support color, hyperlinks, images so a workflow can have - dvipsone : high quality postscript - dviwindo : viewer with typeone support and hyperlinks - acrobat : postscript to pdf and as all these external backends have their demands we could handle all these things in an abstract way (that way one could also drive printer properties like duplex or paper bins etc from a tex job) that meant that when pdf came around we could almost immediately support most of the interactive features in a dvi -> ps -> acrobat workflow when pdftex came around the intermediate step of postscript could be avoided which btw was also possible with dvipdfm(x) so we also supported that so to summarize, it went from tex -> dvi -> printer format tex -> dvi -> postscript -> more generic printer format tex -> dvi -> pdf -> print from acrobat tex -> pdf -> print from pdf viewer in the meantime we are pdf (as from that one can produce other formats) Hans (btw, the fact that we could easily support pdf was also a reason why at that time some adobe folk in nl used documents produced by context to show somewhat extrems usage of interactive features, thanks to the fact that tex can adapt to such new situations, also via the dvi route in this case with pdfmarks; at that time pdf usage - and features - was a bit more dualistic: ps replacement format versus storage and preview format, but that's a different story; but it still shows in how the standard evolved) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: \luaescapestring in proper Lua
On 4/11/24 18:56, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> [...]
>>> \protected\def\PrintTheThing{\ctxlua{document.print_the_thing()}}
>>
>> Sorry, but why \protected is required or recommended here?
>
> depends if you want it to be expandable
I see now that "still.pdf" has a full chapter (#3, titled “Scanning
Input”) and page 79 explains exactly this.
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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[NTG-context] Weird (?) float placement for specific widths of image
Hi,
another graphics/floats question: consider the following example
%
\setupexternalfigures
[location={local,global,default}]
\starttext
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
height=.5\textheight,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
height=.3\textheight,
%height=.4\textheight,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
width=3cm,
%width=2cm,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm]}
\stoptext%
On the first page, the images appear stacked above each other while on the
second page they appear next to each other.
It took me some time to reproduce this behaviour, and I can't claim to
understand what is happening. But it seems to be related to the specific
widths of the images. When I change them to other values the behaviour
disappears. Is this a bug? Anything I can do about this?
Best
Denis
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[NTG-context] Re: Fwd: Re: how to apply gradient color to a piece of text?
On 4/10/2024 5:22 AM, seyal zavira wrote:
seams this code means to put a hidden text with same size behind
metapost shape.
but it does not work properly for me (current version: 2024.04.01 08:59)
and produce empty page but with searchable hidden text.
as mentioned kind = "outline" will be in the next upload so with the
current one you need to use the also posted here for ... endfor variant
also when i edit the code and replace metapost part like this:
\startMPcode
draw lmt_outline [
kind = "outline",
text = "\getbuffer[MyText]",
]
withcolor red
;
\stopMPcode
it produces a selectable hidden text on top of body and red text that
drawn by metapost below of that.
How can this problem be solved?
i attached the codes and pdf results.
On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 4:37 AM Hans Hagen <mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
On 4/8/2024 8:22 AM, seyal zavira wrote:
> thank you Harban and Keith McKay.
>
> \startMPpage
> picture tt ; tt := lmt_outline [
> kind = "path",
> text =
"\definedfont[name:texgyrepagellabold*default]foo
> f o o",
> ] ;
>
> fill
> for i within tt : pathpart i && endfor cycle
> withshademethod "linear"
> withshadedirection down
> withshadecolors (red, blue) ;
> \stopMPpage
>
> I'll add this:
>
> \startMPpage
> draw lmt_outline [
> kind = "outline",
> text =
"\definedfont[name:texgyrepagellabold*default]foo f
> o o",
> ]
> withshademethod "linear"
> withshadedirection down
> withshadecolors (red, blue)
> ;
> \stopMPpage
>
> so a single path option (no picture)
>
> Hans
>
>
> Thank you so much for the sample examples
> it would be great to also make text select able in output pdf
> the third example currently does not work. did you mean you will add
> this feature for next updates?
we're talking outlines so that is paths which implies no search but you
can do this (Keith and/or Hraban will explain and/or wikify it)
\starttext
\startbuffer[MyText]
\definedfont[name:texgyrepagellabold*default]foo f o o%
\stopbuffer
\startbuffer[MyText]
\framed[align=normal,frame=off]{\input{tufte}}%
\stopbuffer
\setbox\scratchbox\hbox\bgroup
\startMPcode
draw lmt_outline [
kind = "outline",
text = "\getbuffer[MyText]",
]
withshademethod "linear"
withshadedirection down
withshadecolors (red, blue)
;
\stopMPcode
\egroup
\startoverlay
{\scale[height=\htdp\scratchbox,width=\wd\scratchbox]{\effect[hidden]{\getbuffer[MyText]}}}
{\box\scratchbox}
\stopoverlay
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: Fwd: Re: how to apply gradient color to a piece of text?
seams this code means to put a hidden text with same size behind metapost
shape.
but it does not work properly for me (current version: 2024.04.01 08:59)
and produce empty page but with searchable hidden text.
also when i edit the code and replace metapost part like this:
\startMPcode
draw lmt_outline [
kind = "outline",
text = "\getbuffer[MyText]",
]
withcolor red
;
\stopMPcode
it produces a selectable hidden text on top of body and red text that drawn
by metapost below of that.
How can this problem be solved?
i attached the codes and pdf results.
On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 4:37 AM Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 4/8/2024 8:22 AM, seyal zavira wrote:
> > thank you Harban and Keith McKay.
> >
> > \startMPpage
> >picture tt ; tt := lmt_outline [
> >kind = "path",
> >text = "\definedfont[name:texgyrepagellabold*default]foo
> > f o o",
> >] ;
> >
> >fill
> > for i within tt : pathpart i && endfor cycle
> > withshademethod "linear"
> > withshadedirection down
> > withshadecolors (red, blue) ;
> > \stopMPpage
> >
> > I'll add this:
> >
> > \startMPpage
> > draw lmt_outline [
> > kind = "outline",
> > text = "\definedfont[name:texgyrepagellabold*default]foo f
> > o o",
> > ]
> > withshademethod "linear"
> > withshadedirection down
> > withshadecolors (red, blue)
> > ;
> > \stopMPpage
> >
> > so a single path option (no picture)
> >
> > Hans
> >
> >
> > Thank you so much for the sample examples
> > it would be great to also make text select able in output pdf
> > the third example currently does not work. did you mean you will add
> > this feature for next updates?
> we're talking outlines so that is paths which implies no search but you
> can do this (Keith and/or Hraban will explain and/or wikify it)
>
> \starttext
>
> \startbuffer[MyText]
> \definedfont[name:texgyrepagellabold*default]foo f o o%
> \stopbuffer
>
> \startbuffer[MyText]
> \framed[align=normal,frame=off]{\input{tufte}}%
> \stopbuffer
>
> \setbox\scratchbox\hbox\bgroup
> \startMPcode
> draw lmt_outline [
> kind = "outline",
> text = "\getbuffer[MyText]",
> ]
> withshademethod "linear"
> withshadedirection down
> withshadecolors (red, blue)
> ;
> \stopMPcode
> \egroup
>
> \startoverlay
>
>
> {\scale[height=\htdp\scratchbox,width=\wd\scratchbox]{\effect[hidden]{\getbuffer[MyText]}}}
> {\box\scratchbox}
> \stopoverlay
>
> \stoptext
>
>
>
>
> -
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\starttext
\startbuffer[MyText]
\definedfont[name:texgyrepagellabold*default]foo f o o%
\stopbuffer
\startbuffer[MyText]
\framed[align=normal,frame=off]{a sample text}%
\stopbuffer
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draw lmt_outline [
kind = "outline",
text = "\getbuffer[MyText]",
]
withshademethod "linear"
withshadedirection down
withshadecolors (red, blue)
;
\stopMPcode
\egroup
\startoverlay
{\scale[height=\htdp\scratchbox,width=\wd\scratchbox]{\effect[hidden]{\getbuffer[MyText]}}}
{\box\scratchbox}
\stopoverlay
\stoptext
test1.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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\startbuffer[MyText]
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[NTG-context] Fwd: [lug-leaders] BachoTeX 2024: Last minute
Hi all, Please see the forwarded message from GUST below. Best wishes, Taco > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Jerzy Ludwichowski > Subject: [lug-leaders] BachoTeX 2024: Last minute > Date: 9 April 2024 at 14:09:09 CEST > To: tex...@tug.org, LUG boards > Reply-To: lug-boa...@ifi.uio.no > > Dear TeXies, > > we've extended the deadline for "early-bird" BachoTeX 2024 registrations > until 11th of April. > All the current details of the conference are available from the revamped(!) > page: > > https://bachotex.gust.org.pl > > Don't hesitate, come and share the joys of TeXing together: "Ideas are born > between heads" > > --Jerzy Ludwichowski > (for the Organizing Committee) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Very bizarre bug
On 4/7/2024 7:08 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi everybody, this is bizarre, but hear me out: a file that I have has a mixture of xml, TeX and Lua. It compiles cleanly, no problem, on macos and linux. I also have a little raspberry pi on which I have installed lmtx. The file compiles, BUT: it has one additional page. The first page of the document is empty and has the word "on" in the upper left hand corner of the text area. I have checked several times, it always comes out like this. Everything else is exactly the same - context version, file and environment files (everything under git, so really identical). The "on" does not appear if I just make a "hello world" document on the raspi. So my question is: how can I begin to explore where this word creeps in? I suspect it's something in the linux-aarch64 tree or some test for this architecture that is the culprit, but what would be a good way to trace it? can you make a format with line 25 of context.mkxl uncommented to see if you get a message (not production, just a test) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Very bizarre bug
Hi everybody, this is bizarre, but hear me out: a file that I have has a mixture of xml, TeX and Lua. It compiles cleanly, no problem, on macos and linux. I also have a little raspberry pi on which I have installed lmtx. The file compiles, BUT: it has one additional page. The first page of the document is empty and has the word "on" in the upper left hand corner of the text area. I have checked several times, it always comes out like this. Everything else is exactly the same - context version, file and environment files (everything under git, so really identical). The "on" does not appear if I just make a "hello world" document on the raspi. So my question is: how can I begin to explore where this word creeps in? I suspect it's something in the linux-aarch64 tree or some test for this architecture that is the culprit, but what would be a good way to trace it? All best Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: last page number for a list
Alan Bowen schrieb am 30.03.2024 um 20:59:
How can I get the last page number of a chapter for a list (ToC)?
Outside of a list, I use \lastpagenumber.
But that does not work in a list such as the ToC.
Any tips or pointers will be gladly received.
You can try this:
\definepagestate[alanpage]
\definecounter [alanindex]
\setuphead
[chapter]
[insidesection={\setpagestate[alanpage]},
aftersection={\setpagestate[alanpage]}]
\setuphead
[title]
[insidesection=,
aftersection=]
\define[1]\ChapterListPage
{\pagestaterealpage{alanpage}{\number\numexpr\incrementedcounter[alanindex]\relax}%
\thinspace --\thinspace
\pagestaterealpage{alanpage}{\number\numexpr\incrementedcounter[alanindex]\relax}}
\setuplist[chapter][pagecommand=\ChapterListPage]
\setuplist[chapter][pagecommand=\ChapterListPage]
\showgrid
\starttext
\completecontent
\startchapter [title=Knuth]
\dorecurse{12}{\samplefile{knuth}}
\stopchapter
\startchapter [title=Zapf]
\dorecurse{12}{\samplefile{zapf}}
\stopchapter
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: last page number for a list
Hi, Bruce—
This does not quite work—the page numbers are those of the first page of
the chapter, not the last. But thanks for the tip about \writetolist.
Perhaps I can get that to work.
What I need are ToC entries like
AuthorName
ShortTitle 1–6
I need this pagination because one of the requirements of continuous
publication on the OJS is that once an item is published changes are not
permitted. So I cannot go with normal continuous publication since, for us
anyway, items are not processed in strict sequential order (e,g., we may
have, paper+paper+ review+paper...)
If it helps: I currently have
\startFMTitle[reference=\Reference, title={}][itemAuthor=AuthorName,
itemTitle=ShortTitle,...]
\setuplist[FMTitle][state=start, alternative=startendfmpages,
criterium=all,]
(\Reference is defined at the in the preamble to input of the
file/component.)
\definelistalternative[startendfmpages][renderingsetup=list:startendfmpages]
\startsetups[list:startendfmpages]
\structurelistuservariable{itemAuthor}\crlf
\structurelistuservariable{itemTitle}\hfill%
\at[\currentlistentrypagenumber]–\at[\lastpagenumber]
\vglue1pc
\stopsetups
where I have \reference[\lastpagenumber]{} at the end of the file. But this
gives me ??–viii (the viii is correct and interactive) for the FMTitle.
Sadly the entries for all my other Titles (SourceTitle, StudyTitle...) is
??–viii.
(Each title is a modified chapter.)
Curiously, \at[\Reference]–\convertnumber{r}{\lastpagenumber} and
\at[\Reference]–\at[\lastpagenumber] work properly in the body text.
The overall structure is project-product sort with many components in the
product.
This is probably TMI. The bottom line is that I am truly stumped.
All best,
Alan
On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 6:56 AM Bruce Horrocks wrote:
>
>
> > On 30 Mar 2024, at 19:59, Alan Bowen wrote:
> >
> > How can I get the last page number of a chapter for a list (ToC)?
> >
> > Outside of a list, I use \lastpagenumber.
> > But that does not work in a list such as the ToC.
> >
> > Any tips or pointers will be gladly received.
>
>
> I'm not quite sure what you want to do with these numbers: something like
> printing out a contents page but instead of the start page of a chapter it
> shows the last page of the chapter?
>
> If so then try creating a custom list and use \writetolist immediately
> before each \stopchapter command?
>
> \definelist[LastPages][criterium=all]
> \starttext
> \completecontent
> \page
> \completelist[LastPages]
> \page
> \dorecurse{10}{
> \startchapter[title={This is my chapter}]
> This is a chapter\par \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth } \input
> math-kontinuitet-sv
>
> \writetolist[LastPages]{3.}{\namedstructurevariable{chapter}{title}}
> \stopchapter
> }
> \stoptext
>
> But I can't get the number option of \writetolist to work - the "3." above
> is ignored. :-(
>
> —
> Bruce Horrocks
> Hampshire, UK
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[NTG-context] Re: last page number for a list
> On 30 Mar 2024, at 19:59, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
> How can I get the last page number of a chapter for a list (ToC)?
>
> Outside of a list, I use \lastpagenumber.
> But that does not work in a list such as the ToC.
>
> Any tips or pointers will be gladly received.
I'm not quite sure what you want to do with these numbers: something like
printing out a contents page but instead of the start page of a chapter it
shows the last page of the chapter?
If so then try creating a custom list and use \writetolist immediately before
each \stopchapter command?
\definelist[LastPages][criterium=all]
\starttext
\completecontent
\page
\completelist[LastPages]
\page
\dorecurse{10}{
\startchapter[title={This is my chapter}]
This is a chapter\par \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth } \input math-kontinuitet-sv
\writetolist[LastPages]{3.}{\namedstructurevariable{chapter}{title}}
\stopchapter
}
\stoptext
But I can't get the number option of \writetolist to work - the "3." above is
ignored. :-(
—
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Hampshire, UK
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[NTG-context] last page number for a list
How can I get the last page number of a chapter for a list (ToC)? Outside of a list, I use \lastpagenumber. But that does not work in a list such as the ToC. Any tips or pointers will be gladly received. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Headertext
Thank you, Wolfgang,
that's exactly what I wanted.
Greetings
Thomas
Am 26.03.24 um 17:12 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
When you use "header=high" you can't have a header because the block
for it no longer exists, compare the results for "header=high" and
"header=empty" in the following example.
begin example
\showframe
\starttext
\setuphead[chapter][header=high]
\chapter{Lorem Ipsum}
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{lorem}}
\setuphead[chapter][header=empty]
\chapter{Lorem Ipsum}
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{lorem}}
\stoptext
end example
As you have guessed \definetext is the way to create a custom header
for the first page of your \chapter, the command has like
\setupheadertexts a variable number of arguments.
The third argument with the horizontal position can only be used when
you use two or four arguments to set texts on the left and right side
but isn't in my example because a) the text position is the default
and b) I pass only one argument for the content because I wan't the
text in the middle.
begin example
\showframe
\definetext
[chapterheader] % identifier
[header] % vertical position (header/footer)
% [text] % horizontal position (text/margin)
[This is a custom header for \tex{chapter}] % content
\setuphead[chapter][header=chapterheader]
\starttext
\chapter{Lorem Ipsum}
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{lorem}}
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] start/end pages in ToC
Our journal is currently in the process of moving to continuous publication
of items in a given volume as they are ready. This entails re-jigging the
ToC so that it now includes the start and end page numbers of each item. So
far, I have everything pretty much in the right place, but for the page
numbers I am getting only “??”. I am not sure why this is happening and
would be grateful if someone could tell me why or point me to
documentation that explains the problem and how to solve it.
Many thanks in advance.
My minimalish working example:
\definehead[SourceTitle][chapter]
\setuphead[SourceTitle][page=yes,
footer={ItemData}]
\definehead[StudyTitle][chapter]
\setuphead[StudyTitle][page=yes,
footer={ItemData}]
\definetext[ItemData][footer][
{\at[\Reference]–
\at[\namedstructureuservariable{}{authorInitials}endPage]}
]
\setuplist[SourceTitle][
state=start,
textcolor=black,
alternative=startendpages,
criterium=all,
headnumber=no,
interaction=page,
numberalign=flushright,
before={\blank[2.2ex, fixed]},
inbetween=\endgraf,
]
\setuplist[StudyTitle][
state=start,
textcolor=black,
alternative=startendpages,
criterium=all,
headnumber=no,
interaction=all,
numberalign=flushright,
before={\blank[2.2ex, fixed]},
inbetween=\endgraf,
]
\define\ToCEntry{%
\structurelistuservariable{author}\crlf
\structurelistuservariable{title}\hfill%
\at[\structurelistuservariable{reference}]–%
\at[\structurelistuservariable{authorInitials}endPage]
}
\definelistalternative[startendpages]
[renderingsetup=list:startendpages]
\startsetups[list:startendpages]
{\ToCEntry}
\vglue1pc
\stopsetups
\starttext
{\tfa\bf Contents}
\blank[line, fixed]
\WORD{Sources}
\blank[halfline, fixed]
\placelist[SourceTitle][criterium=all]
\blank[line, fixed]
\WORD{Studies}
\blank[halfline, fixed]
\placelist[StudyTitle][criterium=all]
\page[makeup]
\setnumber[userpage][1]
\def\Reference{RefSo01}
\startSourceTitle[reference={\Reference},
bookmark=Source01,
title={}][
title=Source01,
author=Author01,
authorInitials=ABC,
reference={\Reference},
]
\input knuth
\page
\dorecurse{25}{\input ward\par}
\reference[ABCendPage]{}
\stopSourceTitle
\page[makeup]
\setnumber[userpage][1]
\def\Reference{RefSo02}
\startSourceTitle[reference={\Reference},
bookmark=Source02,
title={}][
author=Author02,
title=Source02,
authorInitials=PQR,
reference={\Reference},
]
\input knuth
\page
\dorecurse{10}{\input ward\par}
\reference[PQRendPage]{}
\stopSourceTitle
\page[makeup]
\setnumber[userpage][1]
\def\Reference{RefSt01}
\startStudyTitle[reference={\Reference},
bookmark=Study01,
title={}][
author=Author03,
title=Study01,
authorInitials=XYZ,
reference={\Reference},
]
\input knuth
\blank[big]
\page
\dorecurse{15}{\input ward\par}
\reference[XYZendPage]{}
\stopStudyTitle
\page[makeup]
\stoptext
Alan
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[NTG-context] Re: Headertext
Thomas Meyer schrieb am 26.03.2024 um 16:28:
Hi folks,
I know, with
\setuphead[chapter][header=high]
I can suppress the header text on the first page. But what can I do if I
still want to have part of the header text on the first page?
Is there something I can do with \definetext and if so, how?
When you use "header=high" you can't have a header because the block for
it no longer exists, compare the results for "header=high" and
"header=empty" in the following example.
begin example
\showframe
\starttext
\setuphead[chapter][header=high]
\chapter{Lorem Ipsum}
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{lorem}}
\setuphead[chapter][header=empty]
\chapter{Lorem Ipsum}
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{lorem}}
\stoptext
end example
As you have guessed \definetext is the way to create a custom header for
the first page of your \chapter, the command has like \setupheadertexts
a variable number of arguments.
The third argument with the horizontal position can only be used when
you use two or four arguments to set texts on the left and right side
but isn't in my example because a) the text position is the default and
b) I pass only one argument for the content because I wan't the text in
the middle.
begin example
\showframe
\definetext
[chapterheader] % identifier
[header]% vertical position (header/footer)
% [text] % horizontal position (text/margin)
[This is a custom header for \tex{chapter}] % content
\setuphead[chapter][header=chapterheader]
\starttext
\chapter{Lorem Ipsum}
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{lorem}}
\stoptext
end example
Wolfgang
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Hi folks, I know, with \setuphead[chapter][header=high] I can suppress the header text on the first page. But what can I do if I still want to have part of the header text on the first page? Is there something I can do with \definetext and if so, how? Thanks for any help Greetings Thomas___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Struggling with the distance and right margin text
Dear Pablo,
Many thanks for your example. Sorry for writing so late.
At least I found out, how it works for me . This is the best way.
\setuppapersize[A8,landscape]
\setupbodyfont[termes, 12.50pt]
\setuplayout[inrightmargin=5.1cm
backspace=2.9cm,
inleftmargin=0cm,width=4cm]
\inrightmargin{\blackrule\\{3.2.2}}\par \dontleavehmode \blackrule
\showframe
\starttext
Me
\stoptext
Von: Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
Gesendet: Freitag, 15. März 2024 20:00:35
An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Cc: Pablo Rodriguez
Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: Struggling with the distance and right margin text
On 3/15/24 14:06, Ursula Hermann wrote:
> Dear List,
Dear Ursula,
this might help you (it isn’t perfect, but you just seem to copy and
paste fragments from your source files):
%\showframe\showstruts
\mainlanguage[de-at]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\definemargindata [MyInMargin][ininner]
\definemarginframed[MyInMargin]
[topframe=on,bottomframe=on,rulethickness=1pt,width=1.90cm]
\defineframed[topruletitle]
[width=max,
frame=off,
topframe=on,
rulethickness=1pt,
align={justify},
extras=\dontleavehmode]
\starttext
\topruletitle{\MyInMargin {1.1.1}\bf
Beispiel 3.2.17. (Vertauschung von All- und Existenzquantor).} \par
\input knuth\page
\topruletitle{\MyInMargin{3.2.22}{\bf
Theorem 3.2.22 (Rechenregeln für Quantoren)}. Seien \m P(\m x)und
\input zapf b}
\stoptext
Sorry for saying that again, but please elaborate both your minimal
samples and your descriptions of the issues you are experiencing.
Some comments on the code fragments you sent.
First of all, please include always code that can be compiled simply
after being copied and pasted.
This requires \starttext (most of the time) and \stoptext (mandatory to
avoid stupid errors).
> \definepapersize[MyBook][width=19cm,height=29.7cm]
> \setuppapersize[MyBook][MyBook] % Prints on paper the size of MyBook
> %\setuppapersize[MyBook][A4] %Would print MyBook-size pages on A4 paper
> \setupbodyfont[modern, 12.50pt]
If these lines are irrelevant for the issue you are experiencing, please
don’t include them.
> \definemargindata [MyInMargin][inleft]
> \definemarginframed[MyInMargin][topframe=on,bottomframe=on,rulethickness=1pt,width=1.90cm]
You define this margin framed, but your sample makes no use of it.
Sorry, but I don’t get it.
> \defineenumeration
> [theorem]
> [
> text=Theorem,
> title=yes,
> width=fit,
> distance=0.2em,
> alternative=serried,
> ]
> \definetextbackground[GrayBackground][
> location=paragraph,
> background=color,
> backgroundcolor=lightgray,
> leftoffset=.5\bodyfontsize,
> rightoffset=.5\bodyfontsize,
> topoffset=.5\bodyfontsize,
> bottomoffset=.5\bodyfontsize,
> frame=off,]
> \margintext{\blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=1cm]\\}
> \blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=13.50cm]
If your sample includes no theorem or text background, please remove
these definitions when sending code.
BTW, avoid include text content (such as margin and body rules [but not
their definitions]) before \starttext.
Also, use \clrf instead of \\ (since the mailing list displays the
relevant line as ("\" instead of "\\"):
> \margintext{\blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=1cm]\}
Here starts your text:
> \starttext
> \margintext {1.1.1}
> {\bf Beispiel 3.2.17. (Vertauschung von All- und Existenzquantor).} \par
Your margin text is undefined. Your code has a defined margin text
command, but it isn’t used.
> So I have here an example from the second page:
Sorry, but I’m having the impression you are using ConTeXt as a kind of
command-based DTP software (which I think it isn’t at all).
Or, do you define commands for each page?
I think it is better to define a single margin text command and use a
doublesided page setup.
> \definemargindata[inrightmargin][right][margin=margin,width=.50em\rightmarginwidth,style=,color=]
> \definemarginframed[MyInMargin][topframe=on,bottomframe=on,rulethickness=1pt,
> width=.90cm]
Again, margin text commands defined, but never used.
> \blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=13.40cm]
> {\blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=1cm, distance=.90cm]\par
Here you open a brace that is not closed at all.
At least, consider that this won’t be extremely readable for other
people (this is only a sample).
It also may be problematic for you, if you leave the source untouched
for some weeks.
> \defineenumeration
> [theorem]
> [
> text=Theorem,
> title=yes,
> width=fit,
> distance=0.2em,
> alternative=serried,
> ]
At least, it would be better not to include a definition inside content
that seems to (or may) be grouped with braces.
BTW, it is exactly t
[NTG-context] Re: offset with \copypages
Peter Münster schrieb am 21.03.2024 um 15:04: Hi, When inserting pages with \copypages, the included pages are slightly shifted to the left and to the bottom. Minimal example: % test-file.tex: \setuplayout[page] \starttext \input tufte \vfill \input tufte \stoptext % test.tex: \starttext \startlayout[page] \copypages[test-file.pdf] \stoplayout \stoptext How could I avoid this offset please? You have to change the layout for the pages where you include your images to get rid of the default margins. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] offset with \copypages
Hi, When inserting pages with \copypages, the included pages are slightly shifted to the left and to the bottom. Minimal example: % test-file.tex: \setuplayout[page] \starttext \input tufte \vfill \input tufte \stoptext % test.tex: \starttext \copypages[test-file.pdf] \stoptext How could I avoid this offset please? TIA for any hints, -- Peter ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Use of marking
As I understand, Thomas needs a layout in which the header shows something
like
1. Chapter title -- 1.1. Section title (including the numbers! *This is the
important bit!*)
There are a couple things about this:
1. In a section (part, chapter, section, etc.) you can introduce three
versions of the title for that section. title= is the general one and if
nothing else is specified, this will be used in markings (headers or footer
or wherever you want to put therm) and in listings (contents). If you give
those arguments, marking= and listing=, you will get those texts in those
places: marking= on markings (you can call them with \getmarking) and
listing= in the table of contents.
2. As far as I have found, including the chapter/section number in the
marking is *not really a trivial task*. I usually hack something using
\headnumber and \getmarking, like so:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided,location=,]
\setupheadertexts[{\headnumber[section].~\getmarking[section]}---{\headnumber[chapter].~\getmarking[chapter]}]
\setupfootertexts[][pagenumber][pagenumber][]
\setuphead[chapter][header=high]
\starttext
\dorecurse{10}{
\startchapter[title={This is my chapter}]
This is a chapter\par \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth } \input
math-kontinuitet-sv
\startsection[title={This is my section}]
This is a section\par \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth }\input
math-kontinuitet-sv
\stopsection
\stopchapter
}
\stoptext
But with a caveat: the `header=high` setting in setuphead for the chapter
needs to be included, or you will get a section number in the first page,
even if there is no section. I have not found a better mechanism yet, but
I'm quite sure there is a correct solution for this... I just haven't found
it yet. Checking for the presence of \getmarking[section] with
\doifsomething does not work, or I could not make it work.
A little bit more info here:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/getmarking
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/headnumber
El mié, 20 mar 2024 a las 9:23, Hraban Ramm () escribió:
> \setupheadtext[de][section=Aufgabe]
> Rename the section, then you don’t need marking.
>
> Sorry, I'm in a hurry and must look up how to get the number…
>
>
> Am 20.03.24 um 12:18 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>
> Hi Hraban,
>
> and thanks.
>
> setuphead[chapter,section][numberwidth=2em] or "fit"
> works!
>
> I know \setupheadertexts, but do not know what shall I write here:
> \startsection[titel=Aufgabe, marking=?]
> If I write marking=Aufgabe I get Aufgabe, no number! For chapter the same.
>
> \setupheadertexts
>[] [{\getmarking[chapter]} - {\getmarking[section]}]
> [{\getmarking[chapter]} - {\getmarking[section]}] []
> > Kapitel - Aufgabe
>
>
> Thanks in advance
> Greetings
> Thomas
>
>
> Am 20.03.24 um 09:09 schrieb Hraban Ramm:
>
>
> Am 20.03.24 um 08:18 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>
> HI folks,
>
> yesterday while reading along I learned how to suppress the chapter
> numbers in sections. That was something I was looking for myself.
>
> But how do you use marking correctly in startsection? I would like to see
> "1. Kapitel - 1. Aufgabe" in the header on the right. How can I automate
> this with marking?
> And how can I reduce the space between the number (1.) and the title
> (Kapitel or Aufgabe)?
>
> Thanks for your help
> Thomas
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> do you know how to use \setupheadertexts?
>
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupheadertexts
>
> I guess you're using the section level for "Aufgabe"?
>
> Then something like {\getmarking{chapter} – \getmarking{section}} might
> fit your request.
>
> The formatting should be possible with
> \setuphead[chapter,section][numberwidth=2em] or "fit".
>
> Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: can we do binding correction?
Hi Andrés, thank you!
Am 20.03.24 um 06:07 schrieb Andres Conrado Montoya:
I have found with experience that a formula to calculate the binding
correction for a saddle stitch binding, not more than 4 pages in a
signature (only one fold in the middle) usually is 1/2 the
circumference of a circle with radius /r/, being /r/ the thickness of
the paper times the amount of physical signatures. Something like:
\frac{π \times t \times s}{2}. I have not tried a formula for more
folds in a signature.
The thing is, you have to recalculate for each signature fold. The
innermost will have displacement zero, the second one a little bit
more, the third a little bit more, and on and on until we reach the
outermost signature.
However, it is necessary to say that unless you are using a
particularly thick paper, or you are using too many pages for a saddle
stitch bind (my personal and professional opinion would be no more
than 80, but better 60), the displacement is usually negligible.
For example, let's say the paper thickness is 0.1 mm (which is 0.0001
meters) and there are 40 pages in 10 signatures. The radius would be
0.0001 meters per signature * 10 signatures = 0.001 meters. Then, half
the circumference would be 1/2 * 3.14159 * 0.001 meters ≈ 0.0016
meters or 1.6mm at the last signature. Unless there was a displacement
of more than, say, 4 mm, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
E.g. our Bonn architectural guides
(https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de/reihen/afb/) are saddle-stitched
booklets, usually have 60 pages and are printed on 115g coated paper.
With coated paper you can’t really derivate the thickness from grammage.
The horizontal page shift is visible if you look carefully. But since
the paper is not very transparent, you only see the problem if you look
for it. I don’t arrange the pages myself, don’t know the signature size,
and I can’t request specials, since we must print cheaply to keep the
low price (had to raise it from 5 to 8 € anyway, half of it goes to the
wholesaler).
Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: can we do binding correction?
Am 19.03.24 um 23:42 schrieb Willi Egger: Generally I know for what binding correction is used, I just never tried to set it up. If I look carefully at one of our printed booklets, the printshop also didn’t. So I'd need pageshift without applying imposition (setting it up wouldn’t hurt). I organise this always with correction to the backspace. For every single page? Theoretically the shift value should be the same as the paper thickness (don’t you think?), but there’s some deformation involved, so a factor might make sense? I think that this would be quite cumbersome, paper thickness of higly coated papers vs. novel-printing paper… I believe one would have to establish this thickness for each project unless the same paper is used... No, I meant, I'd use the actual paper thickness as a parameter, so that paper shift could be calculated automatically with a geometrical factor according to the imposition schema. Don't you think that makes more sense than setting it for single pages? But while this is an interesting topic, it's one of these overly involved niche features in ConTeXt… I didn't care too much myself, and laypeople don't see it anyway. Unfortunately I threw out my old books on printing technology long ago, and my newer one doesn’t cover bookbinding (I’m not at home anyway). I think, that many printshops do not possess neither old books including bookbinding nor do they care about the wishes of the binder … Pity, that you threw them out, but i understand, that circumstances might be such that you have to take decisions… When we left Switzerland in 2012 for Freiburg (and then again Freiburg in 2013 for Kyrgyzstan), we had to drop ballast, and I still had too many books (if you can have too many books at all…). I had a lot on art techniques like calligraphy that I never used, and my printing technology stuff was outdated – well… The antiquarian gave me 30€ for a big pile of formerly expensive books, and he probably was generous. Since then I gained a publishing house and had to move three times, my moving helpers were not amused about that many book boxes. (The last move was into the 3rd story, or is this 4th?, of an old house with very high stories; if visitors arrive panting at my door, I tell them they can sign the summit register now…) Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: can we do binding correction?
Hi Hraban, > On 19 Mar 2024, at 21:56, Hraban Ramm wrote: > > Thank you Willi! > > Generally I know for what binding correction is used, I just never tried to > set it up. If I look carefully at one of our printed booklets, the printshop > also didn’t. So I'd need pageshift without applying imposition (setting it up > wouldn’t hurt). I organise this always with correction to the backspace. > > I didn’t think about vertical pageshift, but of course that’s also needed for > cross-folded sheets. > > I'm not sure how (horizontal) pageshift is supposed to work with full page > images without introducing white borders, but bleed at the inner edge should > be enough. > > Theoretically the shift value should be the same as the paper thickness > (don’t you think?), but there’s some deformation involved, so a factor might > make sense? I think that this would be quite cumbersome, paper thickness of higly coated papers vs. novel-printing paper… I believe one would have to establish this thickness for each project unless the same paper is used... > Unfortunately I threw out my old books on printing technology long ago, and > my newer one doesn’t cover bookbinding (I’m not at home anyway). I think, that many printshops do not possess neither old books including bookbinding nor do they care about the wishes of the binder … Pity, that you threw them out, but i understand, that circumstances might be such that you have to take decisions… Willi > > Hraban > > Am 19.03.24 um 17:01 schrieb Willi Egger: >> Hi Hraban, >> >> I think we should clarify this. >> >> Binding correction is a fixed amount of whitespace in the spine added to the >> inner white-space. This is to ensure, that the binding, which is consuming >> white-space, keeps the inner white-space optically as intended.. >> >> The page shift mechanism works only with imposition enabled. This ensures, >> that the type-setting area does not creep towards the spine because multiple >> sheets of paper are folded in the spine. >> >> I doubt whether it is enough to have the measure of the thickness do >> determine this creeping effect, because we are making folds which are >> probably more circles than just adding thickness of paper. >> >> >> Willi >> >>> On 18 Mar 2024, at 17:35, Hraban Ramm wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 17.03.24 um 23:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: >>>> Hraban Ramm schrieb am 17.03.2024 um 22:48: >>>>> Hi, this question was rised in my ConTeXt beginners workshop* at Chemnitz >>>>> Linux Days today: >>>>> >>>>> Can I configure binding correction for saddle-stitched or thread-bound >>>>> booklets, and if, does it only work with arranging (imposition) or can I >>>>> enable it somehow for the layout (if the printshop does the imposition)? >>>> 1. \definepageshift + \setuppageshift >>>> >>>> 2. \setuplayout[horoffset=] >>>> >>>>> Also I recognized I'm not sure about the difference of the layout >>>>> parameters backspace and cutspace. >>>> backspace is the inner margin and cutspace the outer >>>> >>> Hi Wolfgang, thank you! Seems like I was too dense to understand the >>> description for the \setuplayout parameters in the wiki (and there are more >>> that I never used, oh my…), and since I never use ConTeXt’s imposition for >>> serious print products (and never set up a scheme myself), I didn’t know >>> about pageshift. >>> >>> Ok, if I leave imposition to the printshop and they don't do binding >>> correction in their workflow, I'd need to set horoffset differently for >>> every single page (i.e. first, second, second-to-last and last the same; >>> 3th, 4th and from back the same etc.). Or is pageshift applied >>> independently from arranging? >>> >>> And then, it makes no sense to add the same value all the time. I don’t >>> know if BCOR works this way in LaTeX, but one value (paper thickness) >>> should be enough in combination with an imposition schema. I.e. if I define >>> a paper thickness and the number of pages that are in one booklet (as a >>> single booklet or part of a "proper" book), then the page shift should work >>> automatically. >>> >>> Well, for a single booklet, it could. In a book, booklets can have >>> different numbers of pages, and then you'd need to define a list… Okay, too >>> c
[NTG-context] Re: can we do binding correction?
Thank you Willi! Generally I know for what binding correction is used, I just never tried to set it up. If I look carefully at one of our printed booklets, the printshop also didn’t. So I'd need pageshift without applying imposition (setting it up wouldn’t hurt). I didn’t think about vertical pageshift, but of course that’s also needed for cross-folded sheets. I'm not sure how (horizontal) pageshift is supposed to work with full page images without introducing white borders, but bleed at the inner edge should be enough. Theoretically the shift value should be the same as the paper thickness (don’t you think?), but there’s some deformation involved, so a factor might make sense? Unfortunately I threw out my old books on printing technology long ago, and my newer one doesn’t cover bookbinding (I’m not at home anyway). Hraban Am 19.03.24 um 17:01 schrieb Willi Egger: Hi Hraban, I think we should clarify this. Binding correction is a fixed amount of whitespace in the spine added to the inner white-space. This is to ensure, that the binding, which is consuming white-space, keeps the inner white-space optically as intended.. The page shift mechanism works only with imposition enabled. This ensures, that the type-setting area does not creep towards the spine because multiple sheets of paper are folded in the spine. I doubt whether it is enough to have the measure of the thickness do determine this creeping effect, because we are making folds which are probably more circles than just adding thickness of paper. Willi On 18 Mar 2024, at 17:35, Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 17.03.24 um 23:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hraban Ramm schrieb am 17.03.2024 um 22:48: Hi, this question was rised in my ConTeXt beginners workshop* at Chemnitz Linux Days today: Can I configure binding correction for saddle-stitched or thread-bound booklets, and if, does it only work with arranging (imposition) or can I enable it somehow for the layout (if the printshop does the imposition)? 1. \definepageshift + \setuppageshift 2. \setuplayout[horoffset=] Also I recognized I'm not sure about the difference of the layout parameters backspace and cutspace. backspace is the inner margin and cutspace the outer Hi Wolfgang, thank you! Seems like I was too dense to understand the description for the \setuplayout parameters in the wiki (and there are more that I never used, oh my…), and since I never use ConTeXt’s imposition for serious print products (and never set up a scheme myself), I didn’t know about pageshift. Ok, if I leave imposition to the printshop and they don't do binding correction in their workflow, I'd need to set horoffset differently for every single page (i.e. first, second, second-to-last and last the same; 3th, 4th and from back the same etc.). Or is pageshift applied independently from arranging? And then, it makes no sense to add the same value all the time. I don’t know if BCOR works this way in LaTeX, but one value (paper thickness) should be enough in combination with an imposition schema. I.e. if I define a paper thickness and the number of pages that are in one booklet (as a single booklet or part of a "proper" book), then the page shift should work automatically. Well, for a single booklet, it could. In a book, booklets can have different numbers of pages, and then you'd need to define a list… Okay, too complicated. It’s the printshops's responsibility anyway, and nobody complained about my books so far. (I'm not perfectionist enough to care.) Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki
[NTG-context] command line arguments
Following up on the other imposition question, I'm trying to make an
example file that shows an imposition schema according to command line
arguments.
This way it works for the number of pages, as used in
\dorecurse{\Pages}{…}, but not for the imposition schema. Typesetting
\Schema looks right, but \setuparranging doesn’t work. Where's my error?
\def\Schema{\doifelsedocumentargument{schema}{\getdocumentargument{schema}}{1*8}}
\def\Pages{\doifelsedocumentargument{numberofpages}{\getdocumentargument{numberofpages}}{16}}
\setuparranging[\Schema]
Find the full example attached, I call it like
context --autopdf=auto --arrange impositiontest.tex --schema=TRYPTICHON
--numberofpages=32
Hraban
% context --autopdf=auto --arrange --arguments=schema=2\*4,pages=16
\def\Schema{\doifelsedocumentargument{schema}{\getdocumentargument{schema}}{1*8}}
\def\Pages{\doifelsedocumentargument{numberofpages}{\getdocumentargument{numberofpages}}{16}}
\setuppapersize[A9,landscape][A7,landscape]
\setuparranging[\Schema]
\setupbodyfont[ss,10pt]
\setuplayout[margin=0pt, width=fit, header=2.8ex, footer=2.8ex]
\setupalign[middle,hilo]
\setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,location=footer]
\setupheadertexts[\CONTEXT\ imposition test]
\showframe
\setupbackgrounds [text][text][background=color,backgroundcolor=lightgray]
% Where the block of pages is placed on the sheet
% (relevant if there is space left over.)
\setuplayout [location=middle,marking=on]
\startbuffer[Fakepage]
\strut
\blank
\bold{[\Schema]}
\vfill
This is page \recurselevel
\vfill
\stopbuffer
\starttext
\dorecurse{\Pages}{\getbuffer[Fakepage]\page}
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: Adjusted Chapter Headings
Jeroen schrieb am 19.03.2024 um 12:59:
I have some style adjustments for the chapters. The chapter "numbers"
need to be Boek I, Boek II, etc. A vertical separator was introduced
with an inframe. The chapter title at the right side does not vertically
align properly with the chapter number in the frame (inside the frame is
vertically centered, the title not). Is there a way to align the chapter
title with the chapter number?
\starttexdefinition MyNumberChapterCommand #1
\inframed[frame=off,rightframe=on,framecolor=black,
rulethickness=1px,height=30pt]{#1\enspace}
\stoptexdefinition
\setuphead[chapter][style={\bfc},numbercommand=\MyNumberChapterCommand,
page=no]
\define[2]\MyNumberChapterCommand
{#1\space\blackrule[width=1pt,height=22pt,depth=8pt]\space#2}
\setuphead
[chapter]
[ page=no,
command=\MyNumberChapterCommand,
style=\bfc]
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: Adjusted Chapter Headings
I have been able to achieve it as following, but the first frame width is
fixed so will cause problems with other chapter numbers such as VIII
\unexpanded\def\HeadTitle#1#2%
{\hbox to \hsize \bgroup
\hfill
\setupframed[offset=.5em,frame=off]
\tbox{\framed[width=22mm,align=right]{#1}}%
\tbox{\framed[width=130mm,align=right,leftframe=on,
rulethickness=0.8pt]{#2}}%
\egroup}
\setuplabeltext[chapter=Boek~]
\setuphead[chapter][style={\bfc}, command=\HeadTitle, textstyle=bold]
...
\startchapter
[title={Algemene Beginselen},
ownnumber={I}]
Op di 19 mrt 2024 om 15:49 schreef Hraban Ramm :
> Hi Jeroen,
>
> it might make sense to use
>
> \setuphead[chapter][
> conversion=R,
> ]
> \setuplabeltext[nl][chapter={Boek }]
>
> instead of ownnumber.
>
> I would use one command for number and title and put both in the same kind
> of frame. Probably you should use a \strut in the text or
> \inframed[strut=yes] to assure the same text height.
>
> HTH, Hraban
> Am 19.03.24 um 12:59 schrieb Jeroen:
>
> I have some style adjustments for the chapters. The chapter "numbers" need
> to be Boek I, Boek II, etc. A vertical separator was introduced with an
> inframe. The chapter title at the right side does not vertically align
> properly with the chapter number in the frame (inside the frame is
> vertically centered, the title not). Is there a way to align the chapter
> title with the chapter number?
>
>
>
> \starttexdefinition MyNumberChapterCommand #1
> \inframed[frame=off,rightframe=on,framecolor=black,
> rulethickness=1px,height=30pt]{#1\enspace}
> \stoptexdefinition
>
> \setuphead[chapter][style={\bfc},numbercommand=\MyNumberChapterCommand,
> page=no]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startchapter
> [title={Algemene Beginselen},
>ownnumber={Boek I}]
>
> \samplefile{tufte}
>
> \stopchapter
>
> \startchapter
> [title={Organisatorische Structuren},
>ownnumber={Boek II}]
>
> \samplefile{tufte}
>
> \stopchapter
>
> \stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: can we do binding correction?
Hi Hraban, I think we should clarify this. Binding correction is a fixed amount of whitespace in the spine added to the inner white-space. This is to ensure, that the binding, which is consuming white-space, keeps the inner white-space optically as intended.. The page shift mechanism works only with imposition enabled. This ensures, that the type-setting area does not creep towards the spine because multiple sheets of paper are folded in the spine. I doubt whether it is enough to have the measure of the thickness do determine this creeping effect, because we are making folds which are probably more circles than just adding thickness of paper. Willi > On 18 Mar 2024, at 17:35, Hraban Ramm wrote: > > > Am 17.03.24 um 23:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: >> Hraban Ramm schrieb am 17.03.2024 um 22:48: >>> Hi, this question was rised in my ConTeXt beginners workshop* at Chemnitz >>> Linux Days today: >>> >>> Can I configure binding correction for saddle-stitched or thread-bound >>> booklets, and if, does it only work with arranging (imposition) or can I >>> enable it somehow for the layout (if the printshop does the imposition)? >> >> 1. \definepageshift + \setuppageshift >> >> 2. \setuplayout[horoffset=] >> >>> Also I recognized I'm not sure about the difference of the layout >>> parameters backspace and cutspace. >> >> backspace is the inner margin and cutspace the outer >> > Hi Wolfgang, thank you! Seems like I was too dense to understand the > description for the \setuplayout parameters in the wiki (and there are more > that I never used, oh my…), and since I never use ConTeXt’s imposition for > serious print products (and never set up a scheme myself), I didn’t know > about pageshift. > > Ok, if I leave imposition to the printshop and they don't do binding > correction in their workflow, I'd need to set horoffset differently for every > single page (i.e. first, second, second-to-last and last the same; 3th, 4th > and from back the same etc.). Or is pageshift applied independently from > arranging? > > And then, it makes no sense to add the same value all the time. I don’t know > if BCOR works this way in LaTeX, but one value (paper thickness) should be > enough in combination with an imposition schema. I.e. if I define a paper > thickness and the number of pages that are in one booklet (as a single > booklet or part of a "proper" book), then the page shift should work > automatically. > > Well, for a single booklet, it could. In a book, booklets can have different > numbers of pages, and then you'd need to define a list… Okay, too > complicated. It’s the printshops's responsibility anyway, and nobody > complained about my books so far. (I'm not perfectionist enough to care.) > > Hraban > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Adjusted Chapter Headings
Hi Jeroen,
it might make sense to use
\setuphead[chapter][
conversion=R,
]
\setuplabeltext[nl][chapter={Boek }]
instead of ownnumber.
I would use one command for number and title and put both in the same
kind of frame. Probably you should use a \strut in the text or
\inframed[strut=yes] to assure the same text height.
HTH, Hraban
Am 19.03.24 um 12:59 schrieb Jeroen:
I have some style adjustments for the chapters. The chapter "numbers"
need to be Boek I, Boek II, etc. A vertical separator was introduced
with an inframe. The chapter title at the right side does not
vertically align properly with the chapter number in the frame (inside
the frame is vertically centered, the title not). Is there a way to
align the chapter title with the chapter number?
\starttexdefinition MyNumberChapterCommand #1
\inframed[frame=off,rightframe=on,framecolor=black,
rulethickness=1px,height=30pt]{#1\enspace}
\stoptexdefinition
\setuphead[chapter][style={\bfc},numbercommand=\MyNumberChapterCommand,
page=no]
\starttext
\startchapter
[title={Algemene Beginselen},
ownnumber={Boek I}]
\samplefile{tufte}
\stopchapter
\startchapter
[title={Organisatorische Structuren},
ownnumber={Boek II}]
\samplefile{tufte}
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Adjusted Chapter Headings
I have some style adjustments for the chapters. The chapter "numbers" need
to be Boek I, Boek II, etc. A vertical separator was introduced with an
inframe. The chapter title at the right side does not vertically align
properly with the chapter number in the frame (inside the frame is
vertically centered, the title not). Is there a way to align the chapter
title with the chapter number?
\starttexdefinition MyNumberChapterCommand #1
\inframed[frame=off,rightframe=on,framecolor=black,
rulethickness=1px,height=30pt]{#1\enspace}
\stoptexdefinition
\setuphead[chapter][style={\bfc},numbercommand=\MyNumberChapterCommand,
page=no]
\starttext
\startchapter
[title={Algemene Beginselen},
ownnumber={Boek I}]
\samplefile{tufte}
\stopchapter
\startchapter
[title={Organisatorische Structuren},
ownnumber={Boek II}]
\samplefile{tufte}
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: can we do binding correction?
Am 17.03.24 um 23:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hraban Ramm schrieb am 17.03.2024 um 22:48: Hi, this question was rised in my ConTeXt beginners workshop* at Chemnitz Linux Days today: Can I configure binding correction for saddle-stitched or thread-bound booklets, and if, does it only work with arranging (imposition) or can I enable it somehow for the layout (if the printshop does the imposition)? 1. \definepageshift + \setuppageshift 2. \setuplayout[horoffset=] Also I recognized I'm not sure about the difference of the layout parameters backspace and cutspace. backspace is the inner margin and cutspace the outer Hi Wolfgang, thank you! Seems like I was too dense to understand the description for the \setuplayout parameters in the wiki (and there are more that I never used, oh my…), and since I never use ConTeXt’s imposition for serious print products (and never set up a scheme myself), I didn’t know about pageshift. Ok, if I leave imposition to the printshop and they don't do binding correction in their workflow, I'd need to set horoffset differently for every single page (i.e. first, second, second-to-last and last the same; 3th, 4th and from back the same etc.). Or is pageshift applied independently from arranging? And then, it makes no sense to add the same value all the time. I don’t know if BCOR works this way in LaTeX, but one value (paper thickness) should be enough in combination with an imposition schema. I.e. if I define a paper thickness and the number of pages that are in one booklet (as a single booklet or part of a "proper" book), then the page shift should work automatically. Well, for a single booklet, it could. In a book, booklets can have different numbers of pages, and then you'd need to define a list… Okay, too complicated. It’s the printshops's responsibility anyway, and nobody complained about my books so far. (I'm not perfectionist enough to care.) Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Why is header page number appearing when I define a header?
Am 16.03.24 um 22:28 schrieb Marco Patzer: On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:33:33 + (UTC) Joel via ntg-context wrote: How do I remove the page number from the header texts? \setupheadertexts [] or \setuplayouttext [header][text] [middletext=] I’d have guessed \setuppagenumbering[location=,] Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Why is header page number appearing when I define a header?
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:33:33 + (UTC) Joel via ntg-context wrote: > How do I remove the page number from the header texts? \setupheadertexts [] or \setuplayouttext [header][text] [middletext=] Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Why is header page number appearing when I define a header?
\starttext \setupheadertexts[Name:~][Date:~__][Date:~__][Name:~] \setupfootertexts[][pagenumber][][pagenumber] \input knuth \stoptext I used this code to create header texts that prints Name / Date on the top and page numbers in the bottom corners. But somehow when I define this code, its also adding the page number not just to the bottom of the page, but to the top of the page as well. How do I remove the page number from the header texts? --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: how to include an an svg file?
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[NTG-context] Re: Why aren't cross-references working in tabulate?
Thank you! The solution worked!
On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 02:30:40 PM MDT, Wolfgang Schuster
wrote:
Joel via ntg-context schrieb am 15.03.2024 um 20:50:
> When I run this code, \at{page}[xyz] is unable to find the cross reference:
>
> \starttext
> %\reference[xyz]{}
> \starttabulate[|lp(.3\textwidth)|lp(.\textwidth)|]
> \NC \reference[xyz]{} \NC \NC\NR
\NC \doifnotmode{*trialtypesetting}{\pagereference[xyz]} \NC \NC\NR
> \stoptabulate
>
>
> \pagebreak
>
> \at{page}[xyz]
>
> \stoptext
>
> The code does work when I uncomment line #2, revealing the
> cross-references work find when outside of a table.
>
> I also tried using a TABLE environment instead and the result was
> similar, it wouldn't show the page number.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
Tabulate and natural tables process the table content multiple times and
therefore you're setting the reference multiple times, to avoid this
check for trialtypesetting mode and set the reference only when you're
out of the mode.
@Hans: Can we add the check trialtypesetting check to \reference etc.?
\protected\def\strc_references_set_named_reference
- {\ifreferencing
+ {\iftrialtypesetting
+ \expandafter\gobblefourarguments
+ \orelse\ifreferencing
\expandafter\strc_references_set_named_reference_indeed
\else
\expandafter\gobblefourarguments
\fi}
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: Why aren't cross-references working in tabulate?
Joel via ntg-context schrieb am 15.03.2024 um 20:50:
When I run this code, \at{page}[xyz] is unable to find the cross reference:
\starttext
%\reference[xyz]{}
\starttabulate[|lp(.3\textwidth)|lp(.\textwidth)|]
\NC \reference[xyz]{} \NC \NC\NR
\NC \doifnotmode{*trialtypesetting}{\pagereference[xyz]} \NC \NC\NR
\stoptabulate
\pagebreak
\at{page}[xyz]
\stoptext
The code does work when I uncomment line #2, revealing the
cross-references work find when outside of a table.
I also tried using a TABLE environment instead and the result was
similar, it wouldn't show the page number.
What am I doing wrong?
Tabulate and natural tables process the table content multiple times and
therefore you're setting the reference multiple times, to avoid this
check for trialtypesetting mode and set the reference only when you're
out of the mode.
@Hans: Can we add the check trialtypesetting check to \reference etc.?
\protected\def\strc_references_set_named_reference
- {\ifreferencing
+ {\iftrialtypesetting
+\expandafter\gobblefourarguments
+ \orelse\ifreferencing
\expandafter\strc_references_set_named_reference_indeed
\else
\expandafter\gobblefourarguments
\fi}
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Why aren't cross-references working in tabulate?
When I run this code, \at{page}[xyz] is unable to find the cross reference:
\starttext%\reference[xyz]{}
\starttabulate[|lp(.3\textwidth)|lp(.\textwidth)|]
\NC \reference[xyz]{} \NC \NC\NR
\stoptabulate
\pagebreak
\at{page}[xyz]
\stoptext
The code does work when I uncomment line #2, revealing the cross-references
work find when outside of a table.
I also tried using a TABLE environment instead and the result was similar, it
wouldn't show the page number.
What am I doing wrong?
--Joel
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[NTG-context] Re: Struggling with the distance and right margin text
On 3/15/24 14:06, Ursula Hermann wrote:
> Dear List,
Dear Ursula,
this might help you (it isn’t perfect, but you just seem to copy and
paste fragments from your source files):
%\showframe\showstruts
\mainlanguage[de-at]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\definemargindata [MyInMargin][ininner]
\definemarginframed[MyInMargin]
[topframe=on,bottomframe=on,rulethickness=1pt,width=1.90cm]
\defineframed[topruletitle]
[width=max,
frame=off,
topframe=on,
rulethickness=1pt,
align={justify},
extras=\dontleavehmode]
\starttext
\topruletitle{\MyInMargin {1.1.1}\bf
Beispiel 3.2.17. (Vertauschung von All- und Existenzquantor).} \par
\input knuth\page
\topruletitle{\MyInMargin{3.2.22}{\bf
Theorem 3.2.22 (Rechenregeln für Quantoren)}. Seien \m P(\m x)und
\input zapf b}
\stoptext
Sorry for saying that again, but please elaborate both your minimal
samples and your descriptions of the issues you are experiencing.
Some comments on the code fragments you sent.
First of all, please include always code that can be compiled simply
after being copied and pasted.
This requires \starttext (most of the time) and \stoptext (mandatory to
avoid stupid errors).
> \definepapersize[MyBook][width=19cm,height=29.7cm]
> \setuppapersize[MyBook][MyBook] % Prints on paper the size of MyBook
> %\setuppapersize[MyBook][A4] %Would print MyBook-size pages on A4 paper
> \setupbodyfont[modern, 12.50pt]
If these lines are irrelevant for the issue you are experiencing, please
don’t include them.
> \definemargindata [MyInMargin][inleft]
> \definemarginframed[MyInMargin][topframe=on,bottomframe=on,rulethickness=1pt,width=1.90cm]
You define this margin framed, but your sample makes no use of it.
Sorry, but I don’t get it.
> \defineenumeration
> [theorem]
> [
> text=Theorem,
> title=yes,
> width=fit,
> distance=0.2em,
> alternative=serried,
> ]
> \definetextbackground[GrayBackground][
> location=paragraph,
> background=color,
> backgroundcolor=lightgray,
> leftoffset=.5\bodyfontsize,
> rightoffset=.5\bodyfontsize,
> topoffset=.5\bodyfontsize,
> bottomoffset=.5\bodyfontsize,
> frame=off,]
> \margintext{\blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=1cm]\\}
> \blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=13.50cm]
If your sample includes no theorem or text background, please remove
these definitions when sending code.
BTW, avoid include text content (such as margin and body rules [but not
their definitions]) before \starttext.
Also, use \clrf instead of \\ (since the mailing list displays the
relevant line as ("\" instead of "\\"):
> \margintext{\blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=1cm]\}
Here starts your text:
> \starttext
> \margintext {1.1.1}
> {\bf Beispiel 3.2.17. (Vertauschung von All- und Existenzquantor).} \par
Your margin text is undefined. Your code has a defined margin text
command, but it isn’t used.
> So I have here an example from the second page:
Sorry, but I’m having the impression you are using ConTeXt as a kind of
command-based DTP software (which I think it isn’t at all).
Or, do you define commands for each page?
I think it is better to define a single margin text command and use a
doublesided page setup.
> \definemargindata[inrightmargin][right][margin=margin,width=.50em\rightmarginwidth,style=,color=]
> \definemarginframed[MyInMargin][topframe=on,bottomframe=on,rulethickness=1pt,
> width=.90cm]
Again, margin text commands defined, but never used.
> \blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=13.40cm]
> {\blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=1cm, distance=.90cm]\par
Here you open a brace that is not closed at all.
At least, consider that this won’t be extremely readable for other
people (this is only a sample).
It also may be problematic for you, if you leave the source untouched
for some weeks.
> \defineenumeration
> [theorem]
> [
> text=Theorem,
> title=yes,
> width=fit,
> distance=0.2em,
> alternative=serried,
> ]
At least, it would be better not to include a definition inside content
that seems to (or may) be grouped with braces.
BTW, it is exactly the same definition as the one included before.
It isn’t just to be removed in minimal samples, your final code doesn’t
need the duplicated command definition.
> \inright{3.2.22}
> {\bf Theorem 3.2.22 (Rechenregeln für Quantoren)}. Seien \m P(\m x)und
>
> My problem here is that there is not the same distance between the the
> text and the margintext .
Please, always compile the minimal samples that you send to the list.
This is simply to ensure other list subscribers will get the same
results as you.
After adding a final \stoptext command, I had to run:
mtxrun --script check source-sample.tex
This allowed me to sp
[NTG-context] Struggling with the distance and right margin text
Dear List,
On the first page I had this example:
\definepapersize[MyBook][width=19cm,height=29.7cm]
\setuppapersize[MyBook][MyBook] % Prints on paper the size of MyBook
%\setuppapersize[MyBook][A4] %Would print MyBook-size pages on A4 paper
\setupbodyfont[modern, 12.50pt]
\definemargindata [MyInMargin][inleft]
\definemarginframed[MyInMargin][topframe=on,bottomframe=on,rulethickness=1pt,width=1.90cm]
\defineenumeration
[theorem]
[
text=Theorem,
title=yes,
width=fit,
distance=0.2em,
alternative=serried,
]
\definetextbackground[GrayBackground][
location=paragraph,
background=color,
backgroundcolor=lightgray,
leftoffset=.5\bodyfontsize,
rightoffset=.5\bodyfontsize,
topoffset=.5\bodyfontsize,
bottomoffset=.5\bodyfontsize,
frame=off,]
\margintext{\blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=1cm]\\}
\blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=13.50cm]
\starttext
\margintext {1.1.1}
{\bf Beispiel 3.2.17. (Vertauschung von All- und Existenzquantor).} \par
So I have here an example from the second page:
\definemargindata[inrightmargin][right][margin=margin,width=.50em\rightmarginwidth,style=,color=]
\definemarginframed[MyInMargin][topframe=on,bottomframe=on,rulethickness=1pt,
width=.90cm]
\blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=13.40cm]
{\blackrule[color=black, height=0.10ex, width=1cm, distance=.90cm]\par
\defineenumeration
[theorem]
[
text=Theorem,
title=yes,
width=fit,
distance=0.2em,
alternative=serried,
]
\inright{3.2.22}
{\bf Theorem 3.2.22 (Rechenregeln für Quantoren)}. Seien \m P(\m x)und
My problem here is that there is not the same distance between the the text
and the margintext .
And now the margintext should be on the right side.
So maybe someone could help me please.
Many thanks.
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[NTG-context] Re: Japanese
Dear Emmanuel,
Thank you for your reply: indeed I understand your approach, which is quite
efficient. I am not at all good in coding, so I naively thought there would be
a way for your setup to retrieve the information it needs from what the user is
doing. Maybe once things are settled, Hans and Wolfgang will have a look in the
Japanese part of ConTeXt so that the user can avoid to enter the setup included
in the \directlua part.
Again thank you for what you are sharing.
Best regards: Otared
> On 14 Mar 2024, at 08:12, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> Dear Otared,
>
> when you read the lua code in the first \directlua{}, you should realize that
> the dimensions of almost all layout elements are depending on the value of my
> lua variable "paperSize".
> Thanks to defining the paper size first in lua, I can apply calculations of
> numeric values.
>
> The value of paperSize is later passed on to \setuppapersize via
> \setuppapersize[\directlua{tex.print(paperSize)}]
>
> Emanuel
> On März 13 2024, at 3:55 pm, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Emmanuel,
>
> Thank you so much for the new setup for writing Japanese: I tested with both
> files, and noticed that with the new version the output looks great.
>
> I have a question about the code in the \directlua{} part of your setup: why,
> for instance, the
> paperSize = « B5"
> is defined « by hand » there, instead of being retrieved from the command
> \setuppapersize[B5]
> issued by the user?
>
> Actually I am using your setup for learning Japanese, and at my beginner’s
> level I do separate words I am learning with spaces. While with the previous
> version of your setup the lines were breaking womewhat strangely, but now the
> spaces between words in the output are as I intended them to be (I should
> also Thank Wolfgang Schuster for his insight with the \script[nihongo], and
> indeed Hans for fixing so quickly the slightest bug).
>
> It is really a great pleasure to be in this community where help comes from
> everyone and features are given on demand !
>
> Best regards: Otared
>
> > On 10 Mar 2024, at 17:43, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I added
> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Chinese_Japanese_and_Korean#Meeting_the_JIS_X_4051_Requirements_for_Japanese_Text_Layout
> > with attached working example code and to-do list.
> >
> > Thanks for any contributions!
> >
> > The working example code is still a work in progress. Its text layout
> > output meets already some of the requirements (see comments in the code).
> > Among the ones to still be implemented are:
> >
> > • solid setting (no extra spacing between characters)
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig1_8 if no requirement for line-adjustment
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#term.line-adjustment
> > • aligning of the lines to the Kihon-hanmen (optimizing the code below in
> > this regard)
> > • positioning and realm of headings https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig3_1_9
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig3_1_15 et al, and
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig3_1_4
> > • positioning of yokugo-ruby https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_3_24
> > • inline cutting note (warichu) https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_4_1
> > • emphasis with sesame dot or bullet
> > • itemization https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_5_6
> > • indenting of quotation paragraphs https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_5_7
> > • tab setting https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_6_1
> > • furiwake https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_2
> > • jidori https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_4
> > • math https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_6 and
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_62
> > • tategaki (writing vertically)
> > Best regards
> >
> > Emanuel
> > On März 2 2024, at 7:00 pm, Wolfgang Schuster
> > wrote:
> > Emanuel Han schrieb am 01.03.2024 um 16:23:
> >
> > Dear Wolfgang,
> >
> > thank you for your valuable remarks. I integrated them, see corrected
> > attached example.
> >
> > Yes, correct layout examples exist. They're all showing vertical writing,
> > but the rules and principles are exactly the same for horizontal writing.
> >
> > • position of the headers and footers: https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig1_30
> >
> > See my attached gongitsune.tex example how you can squeeze text in a very
> > narrow header/footer.
> >
> > • aligning lines to the text box: https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig1_3
> >
> > You can use the lines key for \setuplayout to let ConTeXt calculate the
> > necessary value for the
[NTG-context] Re: Japanese
Dear Otared,
when you read the lua code in the first \directlua{}, you should realize that
the dimensions of almost all layout elements are depending on the value of my
lua variable "paperSize".
Thanks to defining the paper size first in lua, I can apply calculations of
numeric values.
The value of paperSize is later passed on to \setuppapersize via
\setuppapersize[\directlua{tex.print(paperSize)}]
Emanuel
On März 13 2024, at 3:55 pm, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Emmanuel,
>
> Thank you so much for the new setup for writing Japanese: I tested with both
> files, and noticed that with the new version the output looks great.
> I have a question about the code in the \directlua{} part of your setup: why,
> for instance, the
> paperSize = « B5"
> is defined « by hand » there, instead of being retrieved from the command
> \setuppapersize[B5]
> issued by the user?
>
> Actually I am using your setup for learning Japanese, and at my beginner’s
> level I do separate words I am learning with spaces. While with the previous
> version of your setup the lines were breaking womewhat strangely, but now the
> spaces between words in the output are as I intended them to be (I should
> also Thank Wolfgang Schuster for his insight with the \script[nihongo], and
> indeed Hans for fixing so quickly the slightest bug).
> It is really a great pleasure to be in this community where help comes from
> everyone and features are given on demand !
> Best regards: Otared
> > On 10 Mar 2024, at 17:43, Emanuel Han via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I added
> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Chinese_Japanese_and_Korean#Meeting_the_JIS_X_4051_Requirements_for_Japanese_Text_Layout
> > with attached working example code and to-do list.
> >
> > Thanks for any contributions!
> >
> > The working example code is still a work in progress. Its text layout
> > output meets already some of the requirements (see comments in the code).
> > Among the ones to still be implemented are:
> >
> > • solid setting (no extra spacing between characters)
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig1_8 if no requirement for line-adjustment
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#term.line-adjustment
> > • aligning of the lines to the Kihon-hanmen (optimizing the code below in
> > this regard)
> > • positioning and realm of headings https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig3_1_9
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig3_1_15 et al, and
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig3_1_4
> > • positioning of yokugo-ruby https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_3_24
> > • inline cutting note (warichu) https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_4_1
> > • emphasis with sesame dot or bullet
> > • itemization https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_5_6
> > • indenting of quotation paragraphs https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_5_7
> > • tab setting https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_6_1
> > • furiwake https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_2
> > • jidori https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_4
> > • math https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_6 and
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_62
> > • tategaki (writing vertically)
> > Best regards
> >
> > Emanuel
> > On März 2 2024, at 7:00 pm, Wolfgang Schuster
> > wrote:
> > Emanuel Han schrieb am 01.03.2024 um 16:23:
> >
> > Dear Wolfgang,
> >
> > thank you for your valuable remarks. I integrated them, see corrected
> > attached example.
> >
> > Yes, correct layout examples exist. They're all showing vertical writing,
> > but the rules and principles are exactly the same for horizontal writing.
> >
> > • position of the headers and footers: https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig1_30
> >
> > See my attached gongitsune.tex example how you can squeeze text in a very
> > narrow header/footer.
> >
> > • aligning lines to the text box: https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig1_3
> >
> > You can use the lines key for \setuplayout to let ConTeXt calculate the
> > necessary value for the text height.
> >
> > • protrusion of ruby: https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig_ad1_6
> >
> > You're getting this for free because ruby text doesn't take up vertical
> > space, in case vertical text is working it would now stick into the margins
> > as expected.
> >
> > \starttext
> > \ruledhbox{a \ruby{x}{y} b}
> > \stoptext
> >
> >
> >
> > In my previous mail, I wrote wrong amounts of lines. They should be 46
> > lines on one page, while the actual example doesn't show the 46th line.
> >
> > It would be important to identify the reason why only 24 characte
[NTG-context] Re: How to track down source of [entry not flushed] displaying in indexes?
After many hours of trial-and-error, I was able to recreate the problem in a
minimum working example:
file main.tex only contains:
\starttext
\index{birds}
\index{insects}
\input secondary
\placeindex
\stoptext
file secondary.tex only contains:
\index{turtles}
For reasons I can't understand, the index produces the same [entry not flushed]
error. It seems here happening when contents are input.
My code is so simple, I can't understand what I've typed wrong.
--Joel
On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 12:51:56 PM MDT, Joel via ntg-context
wrote:
Okay, I maybe made some progress. I traced the code back and back through the
various documents and found I have some items inside:
\startnointerference\startnointerference
My intent is to have items that are "there" but invisible to viewers, taking up
no space on screen, but treated as being present, so the index will still point
to that particular page.
This solution seems to be what's causing the [entry not flushed] error in the
index.
Is there another solution instead of startnointerferencethat will hide text or
any content but still allow page references to link to that blank spot?
--Joel
On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 07:53:21 AM MDT, Joel via ntg-context
wrote:
I have some custom registers that I use to index some information. When
compiled, it just prints [entry not flushed] instead of printing some of the
page numbers.
I have tens of thousands of lines of code, so have no idea how to break the
problem down to a minimal example. What does [entry not flushed] mean? What
kind of feature in my document do I need to search for that might explain why
this is appearing?
Here is the minimal code used in my index, as you see it isn't showing the
error, so something else in the document is causing it:
\setvalue{W3}{this is text for W3}
\defineregister[learnedshort][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learnedshort][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=3,
pagenumber=yes, indicator=no]
%
\defineregister[learnedlong][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learnedlong][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
pagenumber=yes, indicator=no]
%
\define[1]\learnedis{%
\txt{} \getvalue{#1}
\learnedshort{#1}
\learnedlong{#1}
}
\define[1]\learned{%
\textreference[textref#1]{\expanded{\currentstructuretitle}}
\reference[ref#1]{}%
%
\learnedshort{#1}
\learnedlong{\getvalue{#1}}
}
\starttext
\learned{W3}
\startchapter[title=Standards]
\placeregister[learnedlong]
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: How to track down source of [entry not flushed] displaying in indexes?
Okay, I maybe made some progress. I traced the code back and back through the
various documents and found I have some items inside:
\startnointerference\startnointerference
My intent is to have items that are "there" but invisible to viewers, taking up
no space on screen, but treated as being present, so the index will still point
to that particular page.
This solution seems to be what's causing the [entry not flushed] error in the
index.
Is there another solution instead of startnointerferencethat will hide text or
any content but still allow page references to link to that blank spot?
--Joel
On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 07:53:21 AM MDT, Joel via ntg-context
wrote:
I have some custom registers that I use to index some information. When
compiled, it just prints [entry not flushed] instead of printing some of the
page numbers.
I have tens of thousands of lines of code, so have no idea how to break the
problem down to a minimal example. What does [entry not flushed] mean? What
kind of feature in my document do I need to search for that might explain why
this is appearing?
Here is the minimal code used in my index, as you see it isn't showing the
error, so something else in the document is causing it:
\setvalue{W3}{this is text for W3}
\defineregister[learnedshort][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learnedshort][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=3,
pagenumber=yes, indicator=no]
%
\defineregister[learnedlong][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learnedlong][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
pagenumber=yes, indicator=no]
%
\define[1]\learnedis{%
\txt{} \getvalue{#1}
\learnedshort{#1}
\learnedlong{#1}
}
\define[1]\learned{%
\textreference[textref#1]{\expanded{\currentstructuretitle}}
\reference[ref#1]{}%
%
\learnedshort{#1}
\learnedlong{\getvalue{#1}}
}
\starttext
\learned{W3}
\startchapter[title=Standards]
\placeregister[learnedlong]
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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