[NTG-context] Can I compare with someone?
All,
I've recently installed tetex 2.0.2. I am having difficulty with Metapost
and I am wondering if I have a good installation. If someone else out there
is running tetex 2.0.2, could you try the following on your system and tell
me if you get similar results. Also, if I'm making some sort of silly
mistake, please let me know.
I have a little file named junk.mp.
beginfig(1);
path p;
p:=fullcircle scaled 100pt;
draw p;
endfig;
end.
It compiles much as I expect.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] darnold]$ mpost junk
This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5)
(junk.mp [1] )
1 output file written: junk.1
Transcript written on junk.log.
No problems. Now I add a line to junk.mp.
beginfig(1);
path p;
p:=fullcircle scaled 100pt;
draw p;
label(btex $x$ etex, center p);
endfig;
end.
Now, when I compile, texexec seems to be invoked. Is this what happens on
your systems? Is this correct behavior?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] darnold]$ mpost junk
This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5)
(junk.mp
TeXExec 4.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003
metapost to tex : junk
executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
inputfile : tmpgraph
output : dvips
interface : en
options : once nomp
current mode : none
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5)
\write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./tmpgraph.tex{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
ConTeXt ver: 2003.9.25 fmt: 2003.12.10 int: english mes: english
language : language en is active
protectionstate 0
system : cont-new loaded
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems: beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
)
system : cont-old loaded
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading: Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading: Context File Synonyms
)
bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded
language : patterns 2:2-en-2 3:2-uk-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2
7:2-it-2
8:2-nl-2 loaded
specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
system : tmpgraph.top loaded
(./tmpgraph.top
specials : loading definition file dvi
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-dvi.tex unprotect 3
protect 3)
specials : tex loaded
specials : loading definition file ps
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-ps.tex)
specials : tex,postscript loaded
specials : loading definition file tr
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tr.tex)
specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
)
pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map
pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map
pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map
[1.1]
systems: end file tmpgraph at line 3
)
Output written on tmpgraph.dvi (1 page, 192 bytes).
Transcript written on tmpgraph.log.
return code : 0
run time : 0 seconds
dvi to metapost : junk
metapost : junk
format : metafun
This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5)
(junk.mp [1]
metafun 2003-12-10 14:21
)
1 output file written: junk.1
Transcript written on junk.log.
total run time : 0 seconds
[1] )
1 output file written: junk.1
Transcript written on junk.log.
I now add another line to junk.mp. This is an attempt to get 10pt font size.
beginfig(1);
defaultscale:=10pt/fontsize defaultfont;
path p;
p:=fullcircle scaled 100pt;
draw p;
label(btex $x$ etex, center p);
endfig;
end.
But when I compile, I still get 12pt. And the culprit seems to be:
bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded
I tried the following workaround by editing junk.mp. But,
mpost junk
produces this error message:
! Undefined control sequence.
l.1 \documentclass
[10pt]{article}
So, I try:
mpost --tex=latex junk
But now my system tries to build cont-en.fmt. Toward the end, one message I
get is:
Sorry, I can't find the format `cont-en.fmt'; will try `context.fmt'.
But this doesn't make sense, as cont-en.efmt is already built.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] darnold]$ ll /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/*.efmt
-rw-r--r--1 root root 4713749 Dec 10 14:22
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/cont-en.efmt
-rw-r--r--1 root root 4760442 Dec 9 07:38
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/cont-nl.efmt
-rw-r--r--1 root root 756368 Dec 10 14:21
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/elatex.efmt
-rw-r--r--1 root root 278813 Dec 10 14:21
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/etex.efmt
-rw-r--r--1 root root 226652 Dec 10 14:22
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/mptopdf.efmt
-rw-r--r--1 root root 765252 Dec 10 14:21
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/pdfelatex.efmt
-rw-r--r--1 root root 288178 Dec 10 14:21
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/pdfetex.efmt
I am at a
Re: [NTG-context] Can I compare with someone?
Hi David, David Arnold schrieb: All, I've recently installed tetex 2.0.2. I am having difficulty with Metapost and I am wondering if I have a good installation. If someone else out there is running tetex 2.0.2, could you try the following on your system and tell me if you get similar results. Also, if I'm making some sort of silly mistake, please let me know. I have a little file named junk.mp. beginfig(1); path p; p:=fullcircle scaled 100pt; draw p; endfig; end. It compiles much as I expect. [EMAIL PROTECTED] darnold]$ mpost junk This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5) (junk.mp [1] ) 1 output file written: junk.1 Transcript written on junk.log. No problems. Now I add a line to junk.mp. beginfig(1); path p; p:=fullcircle scaled 100pt; draw p; label(btex $x$ etex, center p); endfig; end. Now, when I compile, texexec seems to be invoked. Is this what happens on your systems? Is this correct behavior? yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] darnold]$ mpost junk This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5) I now add another line to junk.mp. This is an attempt to get 10pt font size. beginfig(1); defaultscale:=10pt/fontsize defaultfont; defaultfont/defaultscale only affect labels set by metapost i.e. label(text,(0,0)); for the labels typeset by tex (btex ... etex) you can add to your mp-file: verbatimtex \setupbodyfont[10pt] etex; path p; p:=fullcircle scaled 100pt; draw p; label(btex $x$ etex, center p); endfig; end. I am at a loss at how to proceed. Is this a bug? Greetings Lutz ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Typesetting music in ConTeXt
Le 10 dc. 03, 23:05, Henning Hraban Ramm a crit : Am Mittwoch, 10.12.03, um 19:55 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Willi Egger: : 3 - some package or binding to Lilypond (for writing music/midi and : xml) That would be very-very nice. By the way, are there any plans to implement this feature (Lilypond binding) or, may be, some other ways to typeset music in ConTeXt? if i'd time i'd write a metapost based engine with regards to lilypond, it depends on how latex dependent things are Lilypond makes use of LaTeX only. Secondly be aware, that the software runs under Linux and under Cygwin. Hm, perhaps it would be possible to use some MusicTeX version? AFAIK that's based on PlainTeX and could be compatible I think there VERY much more work about lilypond that about Musi*TeX. Also Lilipond has a modern approch and has a very good (*TeX) documentation. From http://lilypond.org/web/about/faq.html Will run on my computer? LilyPond is written for Unix, so it should run on any modern Unix variant, including Linux/GNU and MacOS X. There is also a MS Windows port, which uses the Cygwin environment. About other format: We have the following requirements: the format must use ASCII, it must be concise enough to type by hand, it must have a concise formal specification, it must be expressive enough to support many types of notation and printed formats. We believe that none of the existing formats address all these requirements. For example, MusicXML cannot be typed by hand, DARMS is limited in its application, ABC has no strict formal definition, and NIFF is binary. Nevertheless, this does not restrict you for using those formats: there are filters that convert from various formats to .ly Also there is some converter from lilypond to xml So instead of Hans restarting a new Music Notation project, Hans should make lilypond team using Context instead of LaTeX ;-) Also I noted that : - Lilypond is NOT a TeX macro, it only seems to be a dedicated (powerfull) subset of TeX (but allow input of TeX macro) - Lilypond make use of TeX for page breaking and other stuff So How to use Lilypond with ConTeXt? 1 - use Lilypond as an independant tool for building short (less or equal to one page) as pdf figure and include them in context as external figure (that is the way I'll do, because I'm not clever enought to do much more :-) 2 - make Lilypond team understand how ConTeXt is much more interesting as automatic formatic tool for creating pdf than LaTeX is! 3 - Allow using lilypond inside ConTeXt with \startmusic \stopmusic I think this method would be much like typesetting chimical Hans has not to be developping a nex package, just using one that already exist Also I think Lilipond could interest much more people that the only short xTeX poeple user. But Lilipond in not as easy to install (to many LaTeX dependancy). So the Lilypond tead could be interested by the new future alternative ConTeXt-live CDROM distribution ;-) ConTeXt-live (alias LaTeX-3: the only nothing to install TeX based type system that allow to do : - Mathematical, - graphical (Metapost), - Chimical, - Musical hight quality pdf documentation or web based presentation!!! P.S. I don't (yet) use Lilypond, but I looked after some text based Music notation for my wife. I thought first to MusixTex (too eavy, too old) then the abc format (which could be import as ps/pdf figure), then I found that lilypond was closely related to TeX. So it's probably the choice I'll do. -- Maurice Diamantini ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] \setuphead question (long section lines not wrapping)
At 22:58 10/12/2003, you wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Hans Hagen wrote:
hm, must be some kind of complex thing then, what is \thanks supposed
to do?
No, it's not complex at all, and the answer ended up being trivial. The
\thanks command is essentially a footnote to be used in the title portion
of an article (or book, etc.) -- the big problem I was having was that the
footnote mark was appearing fine, but the footnote text was nowhere to be
found -- this was solved once I found the essentially hiden \footnotetext
command and used that to place the text where I wanted it. After that, I
needed to figure out how to reset the footnote counter (which was a pretty
minor problem to solve).
\startstandardmakeup
\startlocalfootnotes
Thanks \footnote{test}
\stoplocalfootnotes
\vfill \placelocalfootnotes
\stopstandardmakeup
That's not doing what I need. What I need is for the section headings in
the text of the article to look like {section number}. {section title} --
I was able to insert the . between the number and the title easily
enough, but my solution turned off line wrapping for the title. I've
attached an example that shows both what I am trying to do, and how my
solution fails (on page 2 of the accompanying dvi).
\setuplabeltext[en][section={{},{.}},subsection={{},{.}}]
should do that; i don't know why it does not break in your case
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind
Thursday, December 11, 2003 Gary Pajer wrote: MiKTeX. I've done this half a dozen times. This time it doesn't work. I feel stupid. What have I forgotten? Things were working perfectly. I decide to update, so I download cont-tmf.zip to \localtexmf. Then I unzip, overwritting all the old files. Then I update the database either using mktexlsr or the MiKTeX options wizard. But now texexec can't find texexec.ini. But it's there, in \localtexmf\context\config (as well as \texmf\context\config) BTW, if I execute kpsewhich texexec.ini it returns without an error, but also with no information. Is that right? Yes, and that's the problem. Recent ConTeXts are too strongly tied to fpTeX :\ One thing you can do: move your texexec.ini in the same folder as texexec.pl -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: Converting Latex style files for use in Context
Hi Adam, I have an ebnf grammar which I need to put in a context doc and have a specific style file (ebnf.sty). Is there an easy way to convert it for use in context. How should we know? I don't have ebnf.sty on my system so this is probably not a well known package. If you provide some more information (where the sty can be found, how an input looks like or so) we might be able to help better. Patrick -- mon trainsistor j'adore ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Converting Latex style files for use in Context
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Patrick Gundlach wrote: Hi Adam, I have an ebnf grammar which I need to put in a context doc and have a specific style file (ebnf.sty). Is there an easy way to convert it for use in context. How should we know? I don't have ebnf.sty on my system so this is probably not a well known package. If you provide some more information (where the sty can be found, how an input looks like or so) we might be able to help better. Like all TeX related things you can find it in CTAN, exactly in http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex209/contrib/misc/ebnf.sty The file is old (1991) so i don't know if it would run with latex2e. The code is very sort, mainly it redefineas a description enviromment. I Think it wouldn't be very dificult define a new definition enviroment for ENNF Zunbeltz A Patrick -- mon trainsistor j'adore ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind
Thursday, December 11, 2003 Gary Pajer wrote: MiKTeX. I've done this half a dozen times. This time it doesn't work. I feel stupid. What have I forgotten? Things were working perfectly. I decide to update, so I download cont-tmf.zip to \localtexmf. Then I unzip, overwritting all the old files. Then I update the database either using mktexlsr or the MiKTeX options wizard. But now texexec can't find texexec.ini. But it's there, in \localtexmf\context\config (as well as \texmf\context\config) BTW, if I execute kpsewhich texexec.ini it returns without an error, but also with no information. Is that right? Yes, and that's the problem. Recent ConTeXts are too strongly tied to fpTeX :\ One thing you can do: move your texexec.ini in the same folder as texexec.pl Thanks, but that didn't work. I still have a nagging feeling that I'm forgetting something simple. MiKTeX comes with a texexec.exe. Putting texexec.ini in the same directory doesn't do it either. Is there an environment variable that I can set to help texexec find its way? Or a command line switch? (I have not found mention of either in the docs) (Putting texexec.ini in the directory containing the ConTeXt .tex script works.) -gary ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind
Thursday, December 11, 2003 Gary Pajer wrote: Thanks, but that didn't work. I still have a nagging feeling that I'm forgetting something simple. MiKTeX comes with a texexec.exe. Putting texexec.ini in the same directory doesn't do it either. First of all, don't use the ConTeXt package that comes with MikTeX. Simply don't. Remove it, if you have it uninstalled. You should only use the distributed cont-tmf.zip of PRAGMA, and use the Perl script texexec.pl in /localtexmf/context/perltk; and texexec.ini should stay there (and make sure you're running *that* texexec.pl) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Active points on a ground plan (CD-ROM catalogue)
Hi, I'd like to make the CD-ROM catalogue (PDF) of an architectural exhibition in ConTeXt. In short the general idea is: - First you have a page with a map showing the locations of the different buildings. - Then you should point on location you are interested in and jump to the page where this particular building is described in detail. - Then again you should be able to jump back to the point (centered?) on the map where you have started. My main question now is: Is it possible in ConTeXt to locate/define on the map (one image) certain points/areas that will contain the links to respective the detail page? Thank you, Steffen ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Active points on a ground plan (CD-ROM catalogue)
At 16:33 11/12/2003, you wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to make the CD-ROM catalogue (PDF) of an architectural exhibition
in ConTeXt.
In short the general idea is:
- First you have a page with a map showing the locations of the different
buildings.
- Then you should point on location you are interested in and jump to the
page where this particular building is described in detail.
- Then again you should be able to jump back to the point (centered?) on
the map where you have started.
My main question now is:
Is it possible in ConTeXt to locate/define on the map (one image) certain
points/areas that will contain the links to respective the detail page?
Ha, when i tried to locate that old code, i ran into a bug (\dosingleempty
is less tolerant than 5 years ago), so first a patch:
\unprotect
\def\dodostartfigure[#1][#2][#3]#4\stopfigure
{\doifelse\v!test\@@exoptie
{\teststartfigure[#1][#2][#3]#4\teststopfigure
\let\@@exhokjes\v!aan}
{\let\@@exhokjes\v!uit}%
\setvalue{\??ef\??ef#1}%
{\def\next{\placestartfigure[#1][#2][#3]#4\placestopfigure}%
\dosingleempty\next}%
\doifundefined{#1}{\setvalue{#1}{\getexternalfigure{#1
\protect
Now you can do things like:
\setupinteraction
[state=start]
% \setupexternalfigures
% [option=test]
\startfigure[TheProces][work016a][factor=200]
\referring (10.7,9.4) (4.3,2.3) [r:psfile]
\referring (16.5,16.5) (4.3,2.3) [r:pdffile]
\marking (10.7,9.4) (4.3,2.3) [m:psfile]
\marking (16.5,16.5) (4.3,2.3) [m:pdffile]
\stopfigure
\starttext
\title{Files}
\placefigure
{Whatever files we use.}
{\TheProces}
\title[r:psfile]{PostScrip Files}
We're talking about PostScript files, see \in[m:psfile]!
\title[r:pdffile]{PDF Files}
We're talking about PDF files, see \in[m:pdffile]!
\stoptext
Uncommenting the test will provide you a suitable test bed.
(Sorry for the bit oldfashioned code; it originates from the pre pdf time)
Hans
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[NTG-context] placefigure for Christmas
Hi Hans, as it comes close to Christmas I'd like to tell you my biggest wish: placefigure[top,left], placefigure[bottom,right] (see below) Isn't there something that you could cook up for this special occasion? Steffen Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 14:25 17/09/2003 +0200, you wrote: What is needed is a kind of extension to placefigure[top] where figures are *still* placed top/bottom but *also* are surrounded by text (right or left). this is kind of impossible in tex since it works per paragraph and during that it has no concept of crossing a page boundary; i presume that i can cook up something for a controlled situation but it's far from trivial Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt Switcher?
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:27:34 +0100 From: Giuseppe Bilotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Switcher? Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not that I see the purpose of using Word in the frist place. Any decent editor has enough macro power to do the same. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta You missed the point. You markup and style your document using Word styles, and then XML is a matter of search and replace. I am not interested in Word per se, but I find using emacs to insert markup during document creation gets in the way of my thought processes. This way I can push markup worries to the editorial stage. People are fond of pointing out Words vices, and I wouldn't quibble with arguments about its stability, but it is about time OpenOffice and its ilk stopped resting on their laurels and started implementing some macro capability. I notice that AbiWord has a DocBook output format, but how well integrated this is I don't know. On Micro$oft's part if they had some real competition a real market in third-party templates might arrive. As it stands I have a 50% solution that handles footnotes and lists, but re-distribution is hampered by the way Word handles its templates and virus worries. Theoretically I could do tables and limited image markup using the same techniques. Leveraging the visual layout tools of a word-processor makes so much sense I wonder at the mentality of people still struggling with text-editors. I have emacs set up on my machine, but it really looks like back to the future from my point of view. I use WinEdt when I'm booted into Windows. btw you can use the same technique to generate native Context markup. It needs hand-editting, but as a rough draft, this works fine for me, and I don't have to re-invent the wheel every time I have a new document. Christopher ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt Switcher?
Hi Christopher, On Dec 11, 2003, at 11:16 AM, Christopher G. D. Tipper wrote: Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:27:34 +0100 From: Giuseppe Bilotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Switcher? Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not that I see the purpose of using Word in the frist place. Any decent editor has enough macro power to do the same. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta You missed the point. You markup and style your document using Word styles, and then XML is a matter of search and replace. I am not interested in Word per se, but I find using emacs to insert markup during document creation gets in the way of my thought processes. This way I can push markup worries to the editorial stage. People are fond of pointing out Words vices, and I wouldn't quibble with arguments about its stability, but it is about time OpenOffice and its ilk stopped resting on their laurels and started implementing some macro capability. I notice that AbiWord has a DocBook output format, but how well integrated this is I don't know. On Micro$oft's part if they had some real competition a real market in third-party templates might arrive. As it stands I have a 50% solution that handles footnotes and lists, but re-distribution is hampered by the way Word handles its templates and virus worries. Theoretically I could do tables and limited image markup using the same techniques. Leveraging the visual layout tools of a word-processor makes so much sense I wonder at the mentality of people still struggling with text-editors. I have emacs set up on my machine, but it really looks like back to the future from my point of view. I use WinEdt when I'm booted into Windows. btw you can use the same technique to generate native Context markup. It needs hand-editting, but as a rough draft, this works fine for me, and I don't have to re-invent the wheel every time I have a new document. You're point is well taken. I once wrote a complete Windows Help system generator using Word Basic macros and nothing else. If fed correctly structured documents, the macros would mark up all topics for display, page browsing, cross references, context sensitivity and indexes. It would then call the compiler. It took about 40 minutes to markup and compile a help system equivalent to 400 pages of text, graphics and all, on 1993-era Windows machines. The macros could also clean the files and start over if major changes were needed in the text. It was a freebie and efficient alternative to RoboHelp. I have just lost too much work to Word-corrupt files and Word-crashed systems to continue with MS. TeXShop (Mac OS X) has never crashed or hung in 15 months of use. The files have never become corrupt. I am looking at Nisus, or perhaps the OS X native TextEdit, as visual editors for the reasons you applaud Word. They both write rtf natively. I'm also looking at TeX4ht with ConTeXt. For now, TeXShop, LaTeX and TeX4ht are more flexible and stable than Word. We'll see. :) Take care. BK ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
