Re: [NTG-context] \setupURL issues

2004-11-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Nikolai Weibull wrote:
* Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 18, 2004 18:50]:
I just ran into this bug on my own and noticed your message on-list.
Did you get it resolved, cos you're right: it's ugly.

hm, interesting bug, i'll spare you the details

:-)
Anyway, does this mean you fixed it (and I should update my context),
or are you looking into it (and I should hold on updating)?
looking into it, for the moment turn of the url color
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Re: [NTG-context] A simple project.

2004-11-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Dirar BOUGATEF wrote:
I was doing exactly what you did with sabon, but i was using 
\pdfmapfile{+texnansi-rubicon-opulent.map} which does not work now (with 
mytex) !

I have changed that to \loadmapfile[texnansi-rubicon-opulent.map] and 
this works fine.
future versions of context will hide the whole map file system behind runtime 
generated \pdfmapline entries; i wait with that till pdftex  1.20 is more
widespread and till dvipdfmx has this feature too

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[NTG-context] HSU Colloquium Series

2004-11-19 Thread David Arnold
All,

Gave my talk today at Humboldt State University Mathematics Colloquium Series.

Slides are available:

http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/HSUColloquium/multcalc/slides.pdf

Notes are available:

http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/HSUColloquium/multcalc/slidesNot
es.pdf

Sketchpad files are available:

http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/HSUColloquium/multcalc/simpleCyc
loid.gsp

http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/HSUColloquium/multcalc/doubleCyc
loid.gsp

http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/HSUColloquium/multcalc/envelopeC
ycloid.gsp

http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/HSUColloquium/multcalc/evoluteCy
cloid.gsp

http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/HSUColloquium/multcalc/robervalC
ycloid.gsp

http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/HSUColloquium/multcalc/symmetryR
oberval.gsp

http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/HSUColloquium/multcalc/involuteC
ycloid.gsp

Source code available:

http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/HSUColloquium/multcalc/hsu.zip

You're all welcome to use them in any way you wish. Thanks to all of those
who answered my questions while I was working on this.


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \completeindex

2004-11-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Nikolai Weibull wrote:
In teTeX 2.99.3 (2004.11.09), the following hangs pdfetex:
\starttext
\index{see}see
\completeindex
\stoptext
They're using context 2004.10.26,
nikolai
in core-reg.tex:
\def\doplaceregister[#1][#2]%
  {\iffirstargument
 \begingroup
 \edef\currentregister{#1}%
 ^ edef
\def\docompleteregister[#1][#2]%
  {\iffirstargument
 \begingroup
 \edef\currentregister{#1}%
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[NTG-context] Re: the url color problem

2004-11-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Oeps, should be:
\def\dodouseURL[#1][#2][#3][#4]%
  {\iffirstargument
 \iffourthargument
   \setgvalue{\v!file:::#1}{\doexternaldocument[#2][#3][#4]}%
 \else\ifthirdargument
   \setgvalue{\v!file:::#1}{\doexternalurl[#2][#3][#1]}%
 \else\ifsecondargument
   \setgvalue{\v!file:::#1}{\doexternalurl[#2][][#1]}%
 \fi\fi\fi
   \fi}
\def\doexternalurl[#1][#2][#3]%
  {\bgroup
   \doifsomething\@@urstyle{\let\@@iastyle\@@urstyle\let\@@urstyle\empty}%
   \doifsomething\@@urcolor{\let\@@iacolor\@@urcolor\let\@@urcolor\empty}%
   \doexternaldocument[#1][#2][{\url[#3]}]%
   \egroup}
(i have a slightly different one here)
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[NTG-context] Bugs

2004-11-19 Thread Dirar BOUGATEF
Hi,
Is there a special place to report bugs ?
I have noticed that align=right aligns text on the left edge of a frame 
where it should align left as it says (and left aligns right).

Is this normal ?
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[NTG-context] Questions about TOC

2004-11-19 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
A very timid question: did anything change in the recent versions about 
generation of TOCs? I could swear that this worked a couple of weeks 
ago, but I can't make it work now:

1) I want numbered and unnumbered chapters, so I use \chapter{} and 
\title{}. I thought that the \title-parts were included in the TOC by 
default, but they don't show up, regardless of what I do.
2) I can't get any of the alternatives to work properly.

Here's an sample file:
\starttext
\setupcombinedlist[content][alternative=c]
\placecontent
\chapter{1}
\section{a}
\section{b}
\section{c}
\chapter{2}
\section{a}
\section{b}
\title{I}
\section{a}
\section{b}
\section{c}
\title{II}
\stoptext
Tried appending the [alternative=c] to \placecontent as well, no 
change. And as I said, I could have sworn it worked a couple of weeks 
ago. Ideas, anybody? Thanks!

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Bugs

2004-11-19 Thread David Antos
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 02:19:56PM +, Dirar BOUGATEF wrote:
 I have noticed that align=right aligns text on the left edge of a frame 
 where it should align left as it says (and left aligns right).
 
 Is this normal ?

Sure. Think of it as ragged-right and ragged-left. This is one of the
first questions in all ConTeXt FAQs, it has deep historical reasons, and
it constantly confuses beginners :-)

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: the url color problem

2004-11-19 Thread Nikolai Weibull
* Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 19, 2004 14:50]:
 \def\dodouseURL[#1][#2][#3][#4]%
   {\iffirstargument
  \iffourthargument
\setgvalue{\v!file:::#1}{\doexternaldocument[#2][#3][#4]}%
  \else\ifthirdargument
\setgvalue{\v!file:::#1}{\doexternalurl[#2][#3][#1]}%
  \else\ifsecondargument
\setgvalue{\v!file:::#1}{\doexternalurl[#2][][#1]}%
  \fi\fi\fi
\fi}

 \def\doexternalurl[#1][#2][#3]%
   {\bgroup
\doifsomething\@@urstyle{\let\@@iastyle\@@urstyle\let\@@urstyle\empty}%
\doifsomething\@@urcolor{\let\@@iacolor\@@urcolor\let\@@urcolor\empty}%
\doexternaldocument[#1][#2][{\url[#3]}]%
\egroup}

Seems to work fine, thanks.
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Re: [NTG-context] font variants

2004-11-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote:
However, it's relevant in the pdfTeX/type1 world as well. Just last
night, I discovered the FPL fonts (SC/OsF for URW Palladio) on CTAN
(http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/fpl/). How does one access the
old style figures in this font without knowing intimately about the font?
interesting, fetching them
I took inspiration (and code) from the Unicode font mechanisms and the
getglyph uses something similar
new font effects. The code is in the attached test-psc, the typescript in
type-psc. The result is at http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/test-psc.pdf.

What this does and doesn't do:
- generalises font access to features in associated fonts
- adapts itself to current size/family/alternative
- doesn't allow further adaptation (e.g., \it \Var[osf] 123 \bf 456)
- best for short runs of associated fonts (e.g., OsF, sub/superscripts)
- can insert arbitrary features into existing typescripts
how about adding support for font classes (i'll look into it)
- relies on a couple special naming conventions within typescripts
- can be defined based on Serif/Sans/Mono family
- is not currently defined based on bodyfont namespace. 
doable
 Is this more desirable with people \switchbodyfont ing in a doc?
- allows expansion beyond \tf\bf\it\bi\sl\bs\sc choices.
so, we need an installable fontstylesuffix (analogue to math switching, no 
problem)
Any thoughts? 
(If anyone wants to give pointers on the correct usage/relevance of
[#1][#2]#3 parameters, pushfont/popfont, and adapting to bodyfont
namespaces, please feel free!)

[Hans, if you see the general utility of this kind of solution, I'd
appreciate the addition of Caps to the \fontstylesuffix.]
ok, done
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Re: [NTG-context] \mathstrut in \underbrace and nath

2004-11-19 Thread Christopher Creutzig
Nikolai Weibull wrote:
! Undefined control sequence.
\dodosmash [#1]-\edef \@@smash
{#1}\futurelet \nexttoken \dododosmash
\relbar -\mathrel {\smash
   -}
 Uh-uh.  The problem is clear: \inlinemath tries (in the definition of 
\inlinemath@) to expand the formula (in the sense of TeX macro 
expansion).  \longrightarrow cum suis are, however, not expandable in 
ConTeXt.

 Now, I do believe the xdef is a bug in nath, but the following 
workaround does work:

\protected\def\longrightarrow{\relbar\joinrel\rightarrow}
 Hans, do you have a command that sort of changes an existing 
definition as if \protected had been used in the first place?

regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] Questions about TOC

2004-11-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote:
A very timid question: did anything change in the recent versions about 
generation of TOCs? I could swear that this worked a couple of weeks 
ago, but I can't make it work now:

1) I want numbered and unnumbered chapters, so I use \chapter{} and 
\title{}. I thought that the \title-parts were included in the TOC by 
default, but they don't show up, regardless of what I do.
2) I can't get any of the alternatives to work properly.

Here's an sample file:
\starttext
\setupcombinedlist[content][alternative=c]
\placecontent
\chapter{1}
\section{a}
\section{b}
\section{c}
\chapter{2}
\section{a}
\section{b}
\title{I}
\section{a}
\section{b}
\section{c}
\title{II}
\stoptext
Tried appending the [alternative=c] to \placecontent as well, no change. 
And as I said, I could have sworn it worked a couple of weeks ago. 
Ideas, anybody? Thanks!
\title never ends up in the toc, unless configured
however, you can add section structure (bodypart, appendix, etc) and within such 
a part, a \chapter command will act as \title (toc entry, but no number)

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Re: [NTG-context] Bugs

2004-11-19 Thread Christopher Creutzig
David Antos wrote:
Sure. Think of it as ragged-right and ragged-left. This is one of the
first questions in all ConTeXt FAQs, it has deep historical reasons, and
 If nothing important has crept past me, being the first question in 
all ConTeXt FAQs is something trivially true, given the number of 
ConTeXt FAQs in existence. :-))

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: the url color problem

2004-11-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote:
Nikolai Weibull said this at Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:54:03 +0100:

Seems to work fine, thanks.
Not here. It still gobbles spaces in the label:
\unprotect
\def\dodouseURL[#1][#2][#3][#4]%
   {\iffirstargument
  \iffourthargument
\setgvalue{\v!file:::#1}{\doexternaldocument[#2][#3][#4]}%
  \else\ifthirdargument
\setgvalue{\v!file:::#1}{\doexternalurl[#2][#3][#1]}%
  \else\ifsecondargument
\setgvalue{\v!file:::#1}{\doexternalurl[#2][][#1]}%
  \fi\fi\fi
\fi}
\def\doexternalurl[#1][#2][#3]%
   {\bgroup
\doifsomething\@@urstyle{\let\@@iastyle\@@urstyle\let\@@urstyle\empty}%
\doifsomething\@@urcolor{\let\@@iacolor\@@urcolor\let\@@urcolor\empty}%
\doexternaldocument[#1][#2][{\url[#3]}]%
\egroup}
\protect
\setupcolors  [state=start]
\setupinteraction [state=start]
\setupurl [color=blue]
\starttext
\useURL[something][something with a space][http://pragma-pod.com/]
link to \from[something] here.
\stoptext

\setupcolors  [state=start]
\setupinteraction [state=start]
\setupurl [color=blue]
\starttext
\useURL[something][http://pragma-pod.com/][][something with a space]
link to \from[something] here.
\stoptext
second arg is url, third file, fourth text
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Re: [NTG-context] \mathstrut in \underbrace and nath

2004-11-19 Thread Christopher Creutzig
Hans Hagen wrote:
first of all, \protected is not what you think it is; i had a \protected 
before etex was around; the context name is \unexpanded
 Ok, then what's \protected?  Is it performing an \unprotect/\protect 
pair around the definition?  But then, why did it work?

\let\unprotectedlongrightarrow\longrightarrow
\unexpanded\def\longrightarrow{\unprotectedlongrightarrow}
 Yes, I'd though of that, I justwanted to know if there is some higher 
level version already existing.

regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: the url color problem

2004-11-19 Thread Adam Lindsay
Adam Lindsay said this at Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:44:20 +:

\starttext
\useURL[something][something with a space][http://pragma-pod.com/]
link to \from[something] here.
\stoptext

Sorry, my bad. This works:

\starttext
\useURL[something][http://pragma-pod.com/][][something with a space]
link to \from[something] here.
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] \mathstrut in \underbrace and nath

2004-11-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Christopher Creutzig wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
first of all, \protected is not what you think it is; i had a 
\protected before etex was around; the context name is \unexpanded

 Ok, then what's \protected?  Is it performing an \unprotect/\protect 
pair around the definition?  But then, why did it work?

\let\unprotectedlongrightarrow\longrightarrow
\unexpanded\def\longrightarrow{\unprotectedlongrightarrow}
ah, i though that you wanted the etex \protected -)
in context protext/unprotect is to be used when ! @ ? are used inmacro names 
which was not the case here

 Yes, I'd though of that, I justwanted to know if there is some higher 
level version already existing.
nop
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Re: [NTG-context] \mathstrut in \underbrace and nath

2004-11-19 Thread Nikolai Weibull
* Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 19, 2004 16:40]:
 \let\unprotectedlongrightarrow\longrightarrow
 \unexpanded\def\longrightarrow{\unprotectedlongrightarrow}

Thanks, that works fine,
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Bugs

2004-11-19 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, November 19, 2004 Hans Hagen wrote:

 David Antos wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 04:15:34PM +0100, Christopher Creutzig wrote:
 
Sure. Think of it as ragged-right and ragged-left. This is one of the
first questions in all ConTeXt FAQs, it has deep historical reasons, and

 If nothing important has crept past me, being the first question in
all ConTeXt FAQs is something trivially true, given the number of
ConTeXt FAQs in existence. :-))
 
 
 You're a mathematician, aren't you :-) Have a look at
 http://contextgarden.net/, great material is there.
 
 And this is documented in
 http://contextgarden.net/Right_and_left,
 nevertheless, you're right, it isn't an FAQ :-)

 but it qualifies as CAQ: constantly asked question and an WPA (Wiki Provided
 Answer)

The Wiki is missing the command that switches left/right to
proper behavior. Which was that?

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] \mathstrut in \underbrace and nath

2004-11-19 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, November 19, 2004 Nikolai Weibull wrote:

 * Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 19, 2004 16:40]:
 \let\unprotectedlongrightarrow\longrightarrow
 \unexpanded\def\longrightarrow{\unprotectedlongrightarrow}

 Thanks, that works fine,
   nikolai

Shall this go in nath? Or, Hans, will you protect those macros?

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Re: [NTG-context] \mathstrut in \underbrace and nath

2004-11-19 Thread h h extern
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Shall this go in nath? Or, Hans, will you protect those macros?
if so, i need to protect the lot, any system/logic behind what to protect ?
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: does context support vietnamese?

2004-11-19 Thread The Thanh Han
On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 01:45:17AM +, Adam Lindsay wrote:
 The Thanh Han said this at Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:36:05 +0700:
 
 Hi Adam,
 
 ET5 was the first proposed font encoding for vietnamese; then it was
 renamed to X5 with a few modifications. T5 is a minor update -- it's
 heavily based on X5 but I don't remember what has been changed.
 
 Thanks. The questions now seem to be, is there a significant amount of
 fonts/support files/work that relied on x5 that needs to be supported?
 Because I just discovered that there were some serious bugs in the
 ConTeXt interpretation of the x5 encoding, and that any regular user
 would have demanded that something be changed!

afaik nobody has used vietnamese with context yet, so just forget
backward compability and do what is needed.

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[NTG-context] installing context i fedora core 3

2004-11-19 Thread ciro
I just switched to Fedora Core 3 (from Mandrake 10), and  checked what version
of Texexec it had. It is 3.1. So I went to the website, downloaded the cont-tmf.zip file, unzipped it, and tried to figure out how to install context.
Boy! that installation manual is confusing. For a novice like me, I need some
step-by-step guide. Any link where I can find that? 
thank you
ciro

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[NTG-context] error messages after installation

2004-11-19 Thread ciro
This is what I get after I followed the installation manual and the wiki.
I did generated all formats.

I'd appreciate any suggestion. thanks
ciro
===
 texexec --pdf novel.tex

 TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002

executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
 inputfile : novel
output : pdftex
 interface : en
  current mode : none
   TeX run : 1

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5)
 \write18 enabled.
 (/usr/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./novel.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}

ConTeXt  ver: 2004.11.06  fmt: 2004.11.19  int: english  mes: english

systems: pdfTeX version 110 - please update

systems: eTeX version 201 - too old (bugs)

language   : language en is active
protectionstate 0
system : cont-new loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems: beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
color  : palette rollover is available
system (E-TEX) : [line 1026]
system (E-TEX) : [line 1081]
)
system : cont-old loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading: Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading: Context File Synonyms
)
system : cont-sys.rme loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme
fonts  : [berry] [ec] []
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
bodyfont   : 12pt rm is loaded
language   : patterns en-default:default-1-2:2 uk-default:default-2-2
:2 de-texnansi:texnansi-3-2:2 de-ec:ec-4-2:2 fr-texnansi:texnansi-5-2:
2 fr-ec:ec-6-2:2 es-default:default-7-2:2 it-texnansi:texnansi-8-2:2 i
t-ec:ec-9-2:2 nl-texnansi:texnansi-10-2:2 nl-ec:ec-11-2:2 loaded
specials   : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
system : novel.top loaded
(./novel.top
specials   : loading definition file tpd
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials   : loading definition file fdf
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex unprotect 3 unprotect 4
system (E-TEX) : [line 2255] \ifcsname
protect 4 protect 3)
specials   : fdf loaded
unprotect 3 protect 3)
specials   : fdf,tpd loaded
! Undefined control sequence.
argument \c!gebied
 ={/home/ciro/}
\xprocesscommaitem #1,#2-\if ,#1
 ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] \xprocesscommaitem \else \if [EMAIL PROTECTED]

\xdogetparameters #1]-\xprocesscommaitem #1,]
  ,[EMAIL PROTECTED]@
\dosetupsystem [#1]-\getparameters [\??sv ][#1]
\setuprandomize [\@@svrandom...
l.3 \setupsystem[\c!gebied={/home/ciro/}]

?
! Emergency stop.
argument \c!gebied
 ={/home/ciro/}
\xprocesscommaitem #1,#2-\if ,#1
 ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] \xprocesscommaitem \else \if [EMAIL PROTECTED]

\xdogetparameters #1]-\xprocesscommaitem #1,]
  ,[EMAIL PROTECTED]@
\dosetupsystem [#1]-\getparameters [\??sv ][#1]
\setuprandomize [\@@svrandom...
l.3 \setupsystem[\c!gebied={/home/ciro/}]

No pages of output.
Transcript written on novel.log.

  run time : 2 seconds

total run time : 2 seconds
make: *** [novel.pdf] Error 1


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Re: [NTG-context] error messages after installation

2004-11-19 Thread Willi Egger
Hi,
The delivered TeX distributions with Linux are mostly way too old. If 
you look at the messages given by your texexec run you can see it already.
TEXEXEC is way too old. The current version is above 5!
After updating your context it appears that it uses still a very 
outdated version of texexec. I advise you to update your tex-system from 
CTAN (http://www.tug.org/interest.html).

Willi
texexec --pdf novel.tex

 TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002
executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
 inputfile : novel
output : pdftex
 interface : en
  current mode : none
   TeX run : 1
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5)
 \write18 enabled.
 (/usr/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./novel.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
ConTeXt  ver: 2004.11.06  fmt: 2004.11.19  int: english  mes: english
systems: pdfTeX version 110 - please update
systems: eTeX version 201 - too old (bugs)

! Undefined control sequence.
argument \c!gebied
 ={/home/ciro/}
\xprocesscommaitem #1,#2-\if ,#1
 ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] \xprocesscommaitem \else 
\if [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\xdogetparameters #1]-\xprocesscommaitem #1,]
  ,[EMAIL PROTECTED]@
\dosetupsystem [#1]-\getparameters [\??sv ][#1]
\setuprandomize [\@@svrandom...
l.3 \setupsystem[\c!gebied={/home/ciro/}]
?
! Emergency stop.
argument \c!gebied
 ={/home/ciro/}
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