Re: [NTG-context] margin kerning issues

2005-05-09 Thread Hartmut Henkel
On Mon, 9 May 2005, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:

> In the following example, margin kerning works for \hyphen and
> \endash, but not for `-' and `--'. I don't think this is an encoding
> problem, because e.g. \hyphen and `-' generate the same output.

all four text blocks show right protrusion here, with ConTeXt as of
teTeX-3.0 and pdftex-1.21b-beta. Maybe your pdftex or ConTeXt is too
old. Maybe try pdftex-1.21a.

Regards, Hartmut
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[NTG-context] margin kerning issues

2005-05-09 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Dear gang,

In the following example, margin kerning works for \hyphen and \endash, but 
not for `-' and `--'. I don't think this is an encoding problem, because e.g. 
\hyphen and `-' generate the same output.

Please advise-)

Thnx as always
Idris

===
\setupoutput[pdftex]%

\setupfontsynonym[cmr10][handling=normal]
\usetypescript[cmr]
\setupbodyfont[10pt]
\setupalign[hanging]

\setuplayout[width=4.2in]

\showframe
\starttext

   \dorecurse{40}{testing\hyphen\ test\hyphen\ }
   \blank
   \dorecurse{40}{testing- test- }
   \blank
   \dorecurse{40}{testing\endash\ test\endash\ }
   \blank
   \dorecurse{40}{testing-- test-- }

\hyphen\ -

\endash\ --

\stoptext
===


Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

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Re: [NTG-context] recent ConTeXt reference manual

2005-05-09 Thread ediestel
Hans

I am very impressed with your work. Please allow a question:
I have typeset a greek/german/english text in an interlinear fashion using
LaTeX.
Now I would like to do this with ConTexT.

My problem:

Interlinear greek/other language

greek in one file, 'other language' input from another file/other files.

How do I get the words greek/other language postioned under each other ? I
thought of importing a table into a table, but that would not work re
column width.
Does this have to be arranged with a perl script ?

I you find the time, I would appreciate a hint/analysis.

Heel bedankt

Eckhart


> Gentile wrote:
>> Le lundi 09 mai 2005 à 15:59 +0200, luigi.scarso a écrit :
>>
>>>John R. Culleton wrote:
>>>
>>>
I am not familiar with cont-emp.

>>>
>>>maybe cont-enp ?
>>>
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>> I persist in thinking that a good up-to-date reference manual is
>> definitively needed to attract new ConTeXers
>
> there will be a book some day -)
>
> also, pretty soon the beginners manual will be redone (in multiple
> languages)
>
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Re: [NTG-context] recent ConTeXt reference manual

2005-05-09 Thread Gentile
Fine Hans I'll wait for it. until that I'll try to dig in the other
documents avalailable

If you want some help for the french version, just ask me

> there will be a book some day -)
> 
> also, pretty soon the beginners manual will be redone (in multiple languages)
> 
> Hans
> 

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Re: [NTG-context] recent ConTeXt reference manual

2005-05-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Gentile wrote:
Le lundi 09 mai 2005 Ã 15:59 +0200, luigi.scarso a Ãcrit :
John R. Culleton wrote:

I am not familiar with cont-emp. 

maybe cont-enp ?
luigi
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I persist in thinking that a good up-to-date reference manual is
definitively needed to attract new ConTeXers
there will be a book some day -)
also, pretty soon the beginners manual will be redone (in multiple languages)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] recent ConTeXt reference manual

2005-05-09 Thread Gentile
Le lundi 09 mai 2005 Ã 15:59 +0200, luigi.scarso a Ãcrit :
> John R. Culleton wrote:
> 
> >I am not familiar with cont-emp. 
> >
> maybe cont-enp ?
> 
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I persist in thinking that a good up-to-date reference manual is
definitively needed to attract new ConTeXers

Sorry for my poor english

Regards

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[NTG-context] Vertical alignment of footnotes in \bTABLE

2005-05-09 Thread Johan Sandblom
The following admittedly contrived example exposes a problem
with vertical alignment of footnotes. The problem was first 
encountered with a multipage table where the footnotes became
more far apart instead of on top of each other as here. It 
appears the problem only occurs if 
1. there is a cell with multiple lines
2. there is a cell that spans several columns.

Is there a workaround?

Regards, Johan

\starttext
{\startlocalfootnotes[n=0, location={text, none}]
\bTABLE
\bTR\bTD \input knuth \footnote{C1}\eTD\bTD A\footnote{C1}\eTD\bTD\eTD\eTR
\bTR\bTD[nx=2] A\footnote{A2}\eTD\bTD A\eTD\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoplocalfootnotes}
\placelocalfootnotes
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] combining references to several targets

2005-05-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote:
On Sun, 08 May 2005 at 22:47:32+0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote:
Hi,
say that I have four tables with lables tab:A ... tab:D. Now, I would
like to say something like \in{Tables}[tab:A,tab:B,tab:C,tab:D] and the
output should be "Tables 2, 7-9".
\in{Tables}[tab:A], \in[tab:B]--\in[tab:D]

Of course, this solution works, but it can easily break.
So there is no automatic sorting and combining? If I don't know that
table B--D have continuous numbers, or if this changes in the course of
writing, those references will become wrong.
implementing this is not complex, but the tricky part is in the prefixes 
(1.4, 2.5)
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Re: [NTG-context] Recomputing useMPgraphic in footers

2005-05-09 Thread Hans Hagen
David Antos wrote:
Hello,
I have
\defineoverlay[Wave][\useMPgraphic{Wave}]
\startuseMPgraphic{Wave}
...
\stopuseMPgraphic
\setupbackgrounds[footer][text][background={Wave}]
The problem is that the graphics is not re-computed on every page,
although I pretty convinced it should.
On the opposite, when I set
\setupbackgrounds[text][text][background={Wave}]
it works perfectly well. (The difference is in [footer] vs. [text].)
An ugly workaround is to call \setupbackgrounds on every page, but it's
not nice at all. What went wrong?
as already mentioned (by taco): \setupbackgrounds[state=repeat]
only page and text area backgrounds are recalculated each page (otherwise the 
speed penalty is too big]

an option is to do something:
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=PageBackground]
\defineoverlay[PageBackground][\reuseMPgraphic{PageBackground}]
\startreusableMPgraphic{PageBackground}
  StartPage ;
fill Field[Text][Footer] withcolor red ;
  StopPage ;
\stopreusableMPgraphic
(see metafun manual for details on the page stuff)
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Re: [NTG-context] INstalling a new version of context

2005-05-09 Thread Hans Hagen
bb wrote:
It would be a very good thing if stock texlive could reside in texmf
and texmf-dist while your complex setup and bleeding edge stuff could
reside in texmf-var, texmf-local, texmf-fonts, texmf-extras, etc. I
can guess at several reasons why this might not be feasible. But it
would be a worthy goal for both texlive and context to make such
interoperability and upgradability  trivial. The current confusion
over engine support, for example, is simply maddening.
Texlive is the closest thing that exists to a standard TeX "platform".
One of its virtues, in my opinion, is its inflexibility. It is fairly
stable over time and does not vary significantly across distributions
like tetex does.

Have you complained to the TeXlive maintainers as well? 
 
Haven't I made enough enemies already :-)
not yet -)
TeX Live is both a binary distribution and a collection of resources.
Normally context -as shipped with tex live- works ok, apart from changes in non 
context specific parts that went unnoticed (chnages in font names, changes in 
patterns, and such) which may lead to broken functionality.

Sebastian always tries to get the latest greatest context in there and tests it 
as well, so the problem is not in tex live as it is.

The binaries are a different story. There is a close relationship between 
binaries like pdftex, mpost on the one hand and kpse and texmf.cnf on the other 
hand; and then there are of course the scripts that call these programs.

It has always been kind of a struggle to make the scripts work for all 
platforms. The main reason for this is that the user interface of kpse is unix 
based and assumes a certain shell. Also, some associated scripts (fmtutil, 
updmap) are shell scripts. One can safely say that therefore tex live is mostly 
a unix distribution. History has learned that it's kind of tricky to keep the 
windows and unix versions in sync (if only because there are two source trees);

last year there has been several incompatible changes in tds and the binaries; 
to mention a few:

- the multiple suffixes (efmt,ofmt,fmt,xfmt,..) were replaced by one (fmt) under 
the assumption that the engine subpath would be used to distinguish between 
aleph, pdfetex, xetex, etc.; unfortunately in practice this is not supported due 
to the fact that it's too complex to incorporate in the form generating scripts;
---> this is why in texexec i need to deal with it myself and also need to catch 
old cases etc; shell escaping is thereby rather painful.

- font paths (enc/map) has changed in an downwards incompatible way ---> this 
can be repaired by the textools script

- as usual there were changes in patterns that went unnoticed ---> this is why i 
will start shipping context with its own pattern files

- the script paths has changed as well as the way to locate scripts in the tree; 
which is quite painful fro those who run tex in integrated environments --> this 
is solved by using texmfstart as stub [that way i can try to remain downward 
compatible]

keep in mind that some context users use aleph/pdfetex/xetex alongside and that 
many context users use fonts not present in the standard tree; so, we need to 
deal with that ourselves

now, on my main machine i use windows and on the webservers linux; i never had 
problems in getting things running on windows, but unxi has always been 
troublesome, esp in updating systems that had already some kind of tex 
installed; this is why i always use the minimal distributions on unix: 
setuptex.sh nicely isolated the tree from whatever present; it is a known fact 
that, although tex live is rathere closely related to tetex, one should not 
install both alongside: different selection, different installation etc; macosx 
is yet another story but as far as i can see, gerben does a good job in 
providing update paths (no surprose since tex on the mac is moving faster than 
the rest)

it may be good to know that the last user group dvd actually shipped with 
protext based on miktex; miktex also has an update policy; it would be 
interesting to see what happens with the miktex for unix announcement.

currently fptex (or its more extensive version xemtex) is maintained 
independently from the rest of tex live, thereby maing tex live more and more 
unix adventure (apart from the resources tree)

another source of confusion is the fact that each distribution ships with 
different trees (texmf, texmf-local, texmf.local, texmfte, texmfgw, texmf-dist, 
texmf-doc, etc); here i always merge the common part into texmf, and put context 
updates in texmf-local

if you want the best tree: take the texmf tree from the user group dvd; this is 
a merge of the tex live trees, a bunch of ctan goodies, extra fonts etc; 
personally i tend to consider manfred's tree as the default one

so ... it's a complex live out there
and .. don't blame the maintainers too much .. it's not trivial to keep track of 
all changes in operating systems, compilers, libraries, macro packages etc ... 
it's o

Re: [NTG-context] INstalling a new version of context

2005-05-09 Thread bb
I think I have things working with texlive. I will reproduce the
installation to make sure I capture all steps. It basically comes down
to:

1) Install texlive 2004 to /usr/local/TeX

2) (possibly optional) Compile new pdftex, pdfetex and pdfxtex and
replace executable and pool files in /usr/local/TeX/bin/i386-linux/
and /usr/local/TeX/texmf-local/web2c/ respectively.

3) Install beta cont-tmf.zip into /usr/local/TeX/texmf-context

4) Edit /usr/local/TeX/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf to include the
following modifications from the copy in /usr/local/TeX/texmf/web2c:
TEXMFCONTEXT=$SELFAUTOPARENT/texmf-context
TEXMF={$HOMETEXMF,!!$VARTEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFMAIN,!!$TEXMFDIST}

5) wget http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/linuxtex.zip 
Unzip the file into a temporary directory and cd to tex/texmf-linux/bin.
Copy only the small stub scripts (all less than 50 bytes) to
/usr/local/TeX/bin/i386-linux overwriting similarly named executables.
Copy texmfstart to the same place, again overwriting the existing
executable. Delete the rest of the temporary linuxtex installation.

6) Update /usr/local/TeX/texmf-context/scripts/context/perl/texexec.pl
with the attached patch.

7) Download the latest lm fonts from CTAN and install them in the
correct folders in texmf-context.

8) Run updmap.

9) Run texexec --make --all

I'm sure I have forgotten some crucial step. Corrections and
simplifications are welcome.

On 5/9/05, Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> bb wrote:
> >
> > Reading my own words I see how they don't exactly convey warm
> > appreciation for all the hard work that has been put into context.
> 
> That's ok, i have written stuff in the not so distant past that
> was much, much less appreciative. :-)
> 
> > below. Since texlive 2005 is in the process of being worked out,
> > perhaps a better use of time would be to ensure that a fully
> > functional, up-to-date (and upgradable!) context gets included.
> 
> It wouldn't stay up-to-date for the whole year, only for the first
> six months or so. But you are right that the current (texlive2004)
> situation is particularly messy, and an effort should be made to
> make sure that the next texlive starts off with a more stable
> situation.
> 
> Taco
> 
>
*** /usr/local/TeX/texmf-context/scripts/context/perl/texexec.pl	2005-04-21 18:16:27.0 -0400
--- /usr/local/TeX/texmf-local/scripts/context/perl/texexec.pl	2005-05-09 14:39:51.0 -0400
***
*** 2305,2313 
  # fall back
  if ($FormatPath eq '') {
  if (($UseEnginePath)&&($EngineDone)) {
! $FormatPath = `$kpsewhich --engine=$EnginePath --expand-var=\$TEXFORMATS` ;
  } else {
! $FormatPath = `$kpsewhich --expand-var=\$TEXFORMATS` ;
  }
  }
  chomp $FormatPath ;
--- 2305,2313 
  # fall back
  if ($FormatPath eq '') {
  if (($UseEnginePath)&&($EngineDone)) {
! $FormatPath = `$kpsewhich --engine=$EnginePath --expand-var=\\\$TEXFORMATS` ;
  } else {
! $FormatPath = `$kpsewhich --expand-var=\\\$TEXFORMATS` ;
  }
  }
  chomp $FormatPath ;
***
*** 2474,2480 
  $texformats = '' ;
  }
  if ($texformats eq '') {
! $texformats = `kpsewhich --expand-var=\$TEXFORMATS`.chomp ;
  }
  if ($texformats !~ /web2c[\/\\].*\$ENGINE/) {
  $texformats =~ s/web2c/web2c\/{\$ENGINE,}/ ;
--- 2474,2481 
  $texformats = '' ;
  }
  if ($texformats eq '') {
! $texformats = `kpsewhich --expand-var=\\\$TEXFORMATS` ;
! chomp($texformats) ;
  }
  if ($texformats !~ /web2c[\/\\].*\$ENGINE/) {
  $texformats =~ s/web2c/web2c\/{\$ENGINE,}/ ;
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Re: [NTG-context] try compiling Tex showcase source : program_sample.tex

2005-05-09 Thread Christopher Creutzig
olivier Turlier wrote:
I've tryed to compile program-sample.tex, found after G.Wierda 
announcement, located at : 
http://tug.org/texshowcase/program_sample.tex, whithout success.
 The files are deliberately incomplete.  I hope I left enough in there 
to learn from, but the particular background is intended for our local 
juggling association only.  But even with the complete files, I never 
documented the steps to generate the output, which unfortunately (mostly 
due to memory limitations in Metapost) is more than a simple texexec.  :-)

Regards,
Christopher
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Re: [NTG-context] INstalling a new version of context

2005-05-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater
bb wrote:
Reading my own words I see how they don't exactly convey warm
appreciation for all the hard work that has been put into context.
That's ok, i have written stuff in the not so distant past that
was much, much less appreciative. :-)
below. Since texlive 2005 is in the process of being worked out,
perhaps a better use of time would be to ensure that a fully
functional, up-to-date (and upgradable!) context gets included.
It wouldn't stay up-to-date for the whole year, only for the first
six months or so. But you are right that the current (texlive2004)
situation is particularly messy, and an effort should be made to
make sure that the next texlive starts off with a more stable
situation.
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] INstalling a new version of context

2005-05-09 Thread bb
On 5/9/05, Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> bb wrote:
> >
> > I think it would be a very useful exercise for hh
> > to install a complete texlive on a stock fedora box.
> 
> I'm sure he would be happy to, if you provided the box and some
> funding (!).

Reading my own words I see how they don't exactly convey warm
appreciation for all the hard work that has been put into context.
Allow me to retract them and offer instead to help, as time, money,
and resources permit :-)

> > Then write down
> > _every_ step necessary to get beta cont-tmf.zip installed and working.
> 
> I guess I could conceivably try to do this, as long as I only have to
> do it once, but I will not be able to provide support for it afterwards.

I can understand your reluctance, especially since texlive has
installation and maintenance issues of its own, as you allude to
below. Since texlive 2005 is in the process of being worked out,
perhaps a better use of time would be to ensure that a fully
functional, up-to-date (and upgradable!) context gets included.

> I have a fairly complex TeX setup, and for that reason I do not
> use texlive. I can try to write down this howto for *current* context
> beta and *current* pdfetex, but afterwards I have to revert my system
> back to 'normal operation' immediately, so there is no way for me to
> keep on helping people after the initial installation.

It would be a very good thing if stock texlive could reside in texmf
and texmf-dist while your complex setup and bleeding edge stuff could
reside in texmf-var, texmf-local, texmf-fonts, texmf-extras, etc. I
can guess at several reasons why this might not be feasible. But it
would be a worthy goal for both texlive and context to make such
interoperability and upgradability  trivial. The current confusion
over engine support, for example, is simply maddening.

Texlive is the closest thing that exists to a standard TeX "platform".
One of its virtues, in my opinion, is its inflexibility. It is fairly
stable over time and does not vary significantly across distributions
like tetex does.

> 
> Assuming someone volunteers to pick up supporting context-on-texlive
> afterwards, then I am willing to write down the initial page.
> But I do not want to waste a day fighting TeXlive for no good,
> so unless I hear from someone, I will do nothing.

I am hesitant to accept your offer because I am afraid that my
problems will be exposed as pathetically easy to fix. Before you go to
the trouble, I will take some time to debug texexec.pl, which is where
I think the final problem is. If I succeed, I will post the recipe on
contextgarden.

> > I would think that targeting texlive as the standard platform for
> > distributing context on linux/unix would make the most sense. It
> > should _not_ be necessary to make anything but a trivial change to
> > texmf.cnf.
> 
> Have you complained to the TeXlive maintainers as well? 

Haven't I made enough enemies already :-)
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RE: [NTG-context] alignment issues

2005-05-09 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Hi Taco,

In addition to [flushright] and [flushleft], would it be possible to add 
support for the options [raggedright] and [raggedleft] (equivalent to the 
default [right] and [left] respectively)? This would add useful symmetry to 
the alignment options, and is easy to remember-)

Thnx 4 all your help (Otared too!) and 
Best
Idris

>= Original Message From Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>> \startalignment[right] bla bla bla \stopalignment
>
>You can use
>
>   \startalignment[flushleft] bla bla bla \stopalignment
>
>instead


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RE: FWD: [NTG-context] \inmargin, \setupindenting, and overfull boxes

2005-05-09 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Hi Hans

Could you send me/post a copy of the modified macro/file (I'm at a 
mission-critical stage on a project and don't want to install a new beta 
before it's 
done unless absolutely necessary->)

Also, is there a similar \dontcomplain fix for \start-\stopalignment[left] 
(underfull hbox)?

Idris
>= Original Message From Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>> If there are a lot of margin notes, this can clutter the output
>> considerably, and that's not so much a problem, but an annoyance.
>> I've run into this as well, in context as well as in latex and
>> in my own macros. The problem is usually something like:
>
>i've added a \dontcomplain to the main macro now


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[NTG-context] Indenting after \stopitemize

2005-05-09 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Dear knights,

Has ConTeXt changed its default for indenting after \stopitemize? Normally 
ConTeXt suppresses indentation after positive whitespace but this does not 
work in e.g.
===
\setupoutput[pdftex]%

\setupindenting[medium,next]

\setupitemize[each][][before={\blank[big]},after={\blank[big]}]

\starttext

\startitemize

\item Item

\stopitemize

%\blank[big]

\input knuth

\stoptext
===

I think this used to work before...

How do I force no indentation after an itemize environment?

I'm also unclear about what the 
indentnext=no
is supposed to do.

Thnx as always

Best
Idris


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Re: [NTG-context] Recomputing useMPgraphic in footers

2005-05-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater

David Antos wrote:
Hello,
I have
\defineoverlay[Wave][\useMPgraphic{Wave}]
\startuseMPgraphic{Wave}
...
\stopuseMPgraphic
\setupbackgrounds[footer][text][background={Wave}]
You need an additional
  \setupbackgrounds[state=repeat]
here.
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Re: [NTG-context] inmarge figures and references

2005-05-09 Thread Jörg Hagmann
Thank you. Obviously, the version I downloaded with Fink is an old one 
(and therefore understands Dutch). I'll check for texutil tonight and 
let you know the result tomorrow, Jörg.

On May 9, 2005, at 4:11 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Jörg Hagmann wrote:
Hi Taco,
1. \inmarge figures can't be handled. Instead they appear in the 
text. This is an example from the log file:
! Undefined control sequence.
l.35 \inmarge
 {\externalfigure[8pyruvate_lab]}

The command is called \inmargin (at least in the english interface).
I was following the manual ("Context - an excursion") where \inmarge 
is used with marginal figures. I thought that was the command to use, 
and it works on my computer here.
I am using \inmargin with text; does what you are saying mean the two 
commands do the same?
\inmarge is dutch for \inmargin, and it should have been replaced in
the 'excursion" when ConTeXt switched to low-level english commands
last year. So yes, they are the same, but if you are not using the
dutch interface explicitly, then \inmarge will only work in old
ConTeXt-s.
2. The references don't work ("??"). Again, an example:
references : unknown reference [][krebsbox]
Are you sure that texutil is started by the texexec run as it should?
No. How do I find out? And if it's not working, what should I do? (I 
have to admit that I don't really understand the programme - I simply 
translated into actions those few commands I could make sense of in 
the texexec manual, such as make ...).
assuming you document is called 'test', then:
  $ texexec test
should end with:
  Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 296 bytes).
  Transcript written on test.log.
 return code : 0
run time : 1 seconds
sorting and checking : running texutil
   TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
  action : processing commands, lists and registers
  option : sorting IJ under Y
  option : converting high ASCII values
  input file : test.tui
 output file : test.tuo
 passed commands : 10
   remapped keys : 0
register entries : 0 -> 0 entries 0 references
 synonym entries : 0 -> 0 entries
  embedded files : 1
total run time : 2 seconds
  $
or something very much like this.
Good luck, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] INstalling a new version of context

2005-05-09 Thread John R. Culleton
On Sunday 08 May 2005 08:44 pm, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> wget www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/linuxtex.zip
> unzip linuxtex.zip
> cd tex
> . setuptex
> texexec --make --all
>
> after that, for each shell:
>
> . ~/tex/setuptex ~/tex
>
> (given tat you're in your home path)

Following the above as a cookbook approach there is a problem
with the texexec line. First I should mention that my default
system path points to the TeXLive path of
/usr/TeX/bin/i386-linux.  so
texexec --make --all will execute that program. If I go to the
new texexec and execute it specifically:
/usr/local/tex/texmf-linux/bin/texexec --make --all
then it can't find Ruby. 

Also, the setuptex program as distributed is not marked as
executable. If i mark it as executable and execute it the
execution is in the blink of an eye. I am not sure it actually
does anything. When I do 
set |less
the value  of TEXROOT does not show up. 

In the directory usr/local/tex/texmf-linux/bin 
if I execute 
./pdfetex
I get version 1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3

But if I go to /usr/share/texmf/bin (the Slackware distribution
of TeX)
and execute 
./pdfetex 
I get
1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)

So the download of linuxtex.zip from Pragma gives an older version of
crucial software than the straight Slackware install. Hence I
will revert to that path.

 
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Re: [NTG-context] inmarge figures and references

2005-05-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Jörg Hagmann wrote:
Hi Taco,
1. \inmarge figures can't be handled. Instead they appear in the 
text. This is an example from the log file:
! Undefined control sequence.
l.35 \inmarge
 {\externalfigure[8pyruvate_lab]}

The command is called \inmargin (at least in the english interface).

I was following the manual ("Context - an excursion") where \inmarge is 
used with marginal figures. I thought that was the command to use, and 
it works on my computer here.
I am using \inmargin with text; does what you are saying mean the two 
commands do the same?
\inmarge is dutch for \inmargin, and it should have been replaced in
the 'excursion" when ConTeXt switched to low-level english commands
last year. So yes, they are the same, but if you are not using the
dutch interface explicitly, then \inmarge will only work in old
ConTeXt-s.
2. The references don't work ("??"). Again, an example:
references : unknown reference [][krebsbox]
Are you sure that texutil is started by the texexec run as it should?
No. How do I find out? And if it's not working, what should I do? (I 
have to admit that I don't really understand the programme - I simply 
translated into actions those few commands I could make sense of in the 
texexec manual, such as make ...).
assuming you document is called 'test', then:
  $ texexec test
should end with:
  Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 296 bytes).
  Transcript written on test.log.
 return code : 0
run time : 1 seconds
sorting and checking : running texutil
   TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
  action : processing commands, lists and registers
  option : sorting IJ under Y
  option : converting high ASCII values
  input file : test.tui
 output file : test.tuo
 passed commands : 10
   remapped keys : 0
register entries : 0 -> 0 entries 0 references
 synonym entries : 0 -> 0 entries
  embedded files : 1
total run time : 2 seconds
  $
or something very much like this.
Good luck, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] recent ConTeXt reference manual

2005-05-09 Thread luigi.scarso
John R. Culleton wrote:
I am not familiar with cont-emp. 

maybe cont-enp ?
luigi
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[NTG-context] Recomputing useMPgraphic in footers

2005-05-09 Thread David Antos

Hello,

I have

\defineoverlay[Wave][\useMPgraphic{Wave}]

\startuseMPgraphic{Wave}
...
\stopuseMPgraphic

\setupbackgrounds[footer][text][background={Wave}]

The problem is that the graphics is not re-computed on every page,
although I pretty convinced it should.

On the opposite, when I set
\setupbackgrounds[text][text][background={Wave}]
it works perfectly well. (The difference is in [footer] vs. [text].)

An ugly workaround is to call \setupbackgrounds on every page, but it's
not nice at all. What went wrong?

Thanks,
D.A.

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[NTG-context] Re: recent ConTeXt reference manual

2005-05-09 Thread Patrick Gundlach

> In general HH writes new manuals on specific topics rather than
> updating existing ones. I am not familiar with cont-emp. What
> is the title?

cont-enp.pdf: context - the manual

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Re: [NTG-context] inmarge figures and references

2005-05-09 Thread Jörg Hagmann
Hi Taco,
1. \inmarge figures can't be handled. Instead they appear in the 
text. This is an example from the log file:
! Undefined control sequence.
l.35 \inmarge
 {\externalfigure[8pyruvate_lab]}
The command is called \inmargin (at least in the english interface).
I was following the manual ("Context - an excursion") where \inmarge is 
used with marginal figures. I thought that was the command to use, and 
it works on my computer here.
I am using \inmargin with text; does what you are saying mean the two 
commands do the same?


2. The references don't work ("??"). Again, an example:
references : unknown reference [][krebsbox]
Are you sure that texutil is started by the texexec run as it should?
No. How do I find out? And if it's not working, what should I do? (I 
have to admit that I don't really understand the programme - I simply 
translated into actions those few commands I could make sense of in the 
texexec manual, such as make ...).

(and what type of reference are you talking about anyway?)
References  in the text to Figures and Tables (\in{Figure}[RefName])
This also works on my computer here.
Thank you for your help, Jörg.
PD Dr.med. Jörg Hagmann-Zanolari
Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics
DKBW, University of Basel
Mattenstrasse 28
CH-4058 Basel
Switzerland
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Re: [NTG-context] recent ConTeXt reference manual

2005-05-09 Thread John R. Culleton
On Sunday 08 May 2005 09:26 pm, Gentile wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for an up-to-date version on the ConTeXt reference manual
> (cont-emp.pdf). The one I fond at Pragma's site is dated November 12,
> 2001. Is it the latest ?
>

In general HH writes new manuals on specific topics rather than
updating existing ones. I am not familiar with cont-emp. What
is the title?
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Re: [NTG-context] inmarge figures and references

2005-05-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi Jörg,
1. \inmarge figures can't be handled. Instead they appear in the text. 
This is an example from the log file:

! Undefined control sequence.
l.35 \inmarge
 {\externalfigure[8pyruvate_lab]}
The command is called \inmargin (at least in the english interface).
2. The references don't work ("??"). Again, an example:
references : unknown reference [][krebsbox]
Are you sure that texutil is started by the texexec run as it should?
(and what type of reference are you talking about anyway?)
A minimal example would help.
Greetings, taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \mainlanguage[fr] and javascript

2005-05-09 Thread Denis Pinsard
Le Sun, 08 May 2005 22:50:33 +0200, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit:
Denis Pinsard wrote:
Hello,
 The following code doesn't work with the fr option.
It seems that there is interferences with javascript features.
Any idea to solve this problem is welcome.
Thank you in advance.
 \mainlanguage[fr]
 \setupinteraction[state=start]
\definefield [Help] [check] [HelpSetup] [helpinfo] [helpinfo]
\setupfields[reset]
\setupfield[HelpSetup][option={readonly,hidden}]
\definesymbol [helpinfo] [SomeHelpText]
 \starttext
\fitfield[Help]
\goto {Help} [JS(Toggle_Hide{Help})].
\stoptext
this works ok in my version; what version do you run?
Sorry, in the email I have forgotten two commands :
\useencoding[ffr]
\enableregime[il1]
\mainlanguage[fr]
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\definefield [Help] [check] [HelpSetup] [helpinfo] [helpinfo]
\setupfields[reset]
\setupfield[HelpSetup][option={readonly,hidden}]
\definesymbol [helpinfo] [SomeHelpText]
 \starttext
\fitfield[Help]
Résultat: \goto {Help} [JS(Toggle_Hide{Help})].
\stoptext
It seems that the problem comes from \useencoding[ffr].
(TeXExec version is 5.2.4).
This same command causes also a compilation error when I want to use
the fp package for floating operations :
\useencoding [ffr]
\enableregime[il1]
\mainlanguage[fr]
\input fp.tex
\starttext
\FPadd\result{4}{5}
Résultat: \result
\stoptext
Thank you for your help.
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[NTG-context] inmarge figures and references

2005-05-09 Thread Jörg Hagmann
Dear list members,
My happiness about my first pdf-file was a bit premature. It worked 
fine on my Mac at work (TeX and ConTeXt downloaded with Fink 
commander). But on the two setups I'm using at home (TeXLive and 
ConTeXt on Mac OS X; teTeX on Mandrakelinux 10.1 on a Powermac G4) the 
exactly same two problems occur:

1. \inmarge figures can't be handled. Instead they appear in the text. 
This is an example from the log file:

! Undefined control sequence.
l.35 \inmarge
 {\externalfigure[8pyruvate_lab]}
?
 <./FIGURES//8pyruvate_lab.pdf
Warning: pdfetex (file ./FIGURES//8pyruvate_lab.pdf): pdf inclusion: 
Page Group
 detected which pdfTeX can't handle. Ignoring it.
>
figures: dimensions of ./FIGURES//8pyruvate_lab.pdf loaded from 
figuref
ile itself

2. The references don't work ("??"). Again, an example:
references : unknown reference [][krebsbox]
Everything else (chapter numbering, textrule, figures, footnotes, 
tables etc.) is working. Also, the test suggested in the texexec manual 
("\framed") is working.

Since the tex file itself has not been changed, I suppose that 
something is wrong with my setups at home. Thank you for any 
suggestions.
Jörg.

PD Dr.med. Jörg Hagmann-Zanolari
Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics
DKBW, University of Basel
Mattenstrasse 28
CH-4058 Basel
Switzerland
Phone +41 (0)61 6953049
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Re: [NTG-context] no 'd' in math-eul.tex

2005-05-09 Thread Johan Sandblom
Thanks, I already repaired it, I just thought it should not be propagated
further ...

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- Original Message -
From: Adam Lindsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, May 9, 2005 11:50 am
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] no 'd' in math-eul.tex

> OKAY!
> Ignore my last two messages! :| Sorry, I've been "distracted" by 
> this EU
> project meeting where I'm sitting.
> 
> You're absolutely right. This is a stupid, stupid bug. You can fix 
> thiswith a patch like the following, in your favourite patch-
> putting-place:
> 
> \starttypescript[math][euler][special]
> \startmathcollection [eul]
>  \definemathcharacter [d]   [nothing] [mr] ["64]
>  \definemathcharacter [D]   [nothing] [mr] ["44]
> \stopmathcollection
> \stoptypescript
> 
> I don't have anything against the letter 'd'. Honest!
> 
> aeam linesay
> 
> Johan Sandblom said this at Mon, 9 May 2005 09:14:29 +0200:
> 
> >In the math-eul.tex shown in the contextgarden.net source browser
> >dated 2003.02.03, which is the only one I have found, the 
> following lines 
> >occur
> >
> >...
> >\definemathcharacter [c]   [nothing] [mr] ["63]
> >\definemathcharacter [d]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
> >\definemathcharacter [e]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
> >\definemathcharacter [f]   [nothing] [mr] ["66]
> >...
> >
> >and
> >
> >...
> >\definemathcharacter [C]   [nothing] [mr] ["43]
> >\definemathcharacter [D]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
> >\definemathcharacter [E]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
> >\definemathcharacter [F]   [nothing] [mr] ["46]
> >...
> >
> >making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
> >mistake? 
> >
> >Regards, Johan
> >
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Re: [NTG-context] no 'd' in math-eul.tex

2005-05-09 Thread Adam Lindsay
OKAY!
Ignore my last two messages! :| Sorry, I've been "distracted" by this EU
project meeting where I'm sitting.

You're absolutely right. This is a stupid, stupid bug. You can fix this
with a patch like the following, in your favourite patch-putting-place:

\starttypescript[math][euler][special]
 \startmathcollection [eul]
  \definemathcharacter [d]   [nothing] [mr] ["64]
  \definemathcharacter [D]   [nothing] [mr] ["44]
 \stopmathcollection
\stoptypescript

I don't have anything against the letter 'd'. Honest!

aeam linesay

Johan Sandblom said this at Mon, 9 May 2005 09:14:29 +0200:

>In the math-eul.tex shown in the contextgarden.net source browser
>dated 2003.02.03, which is the only one I have found, the following lines 
>occur
>
>...
>\definemathcharacter [c]   [nothing] [mr] ["63]
>\definemathcharacter [d]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
>\definemathcharacter [e]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
>\definemathcharacter [f]   [nothing] [mr] ["66]
>...
>
>and
>
>...
>\definemathcharacter [C]   [nothing] [mr] ["43]
>\definemathcharacter [D]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
>\definemathcharacter [E]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
>\definemathcharacter [F]   [nothing] [mr] ["46]
>...
>
>making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
>mistake? 
>
>Regards, Johan
>
>-- 
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>m +46735521477  Sweden   
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>will to find out, which is the exact opposite" 
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Re: FWD: [NTG-context] \inmargin, \setupindenting, and overfull boxes

2005-05-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
If there are a lot of margin notes, this can clutter the output
considerably, and that's not so much a problem, but an annoyance.
I've run into this as well, in context as well as in latex and
in my own macros. The problem is usually something like:
i've added a \dontcomplain to the main macro now
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Re: [NTG-context] Context, LaTeX, or an XML for academic writing?

2005-05-09 Thread Ville Voipio
or an XML dtd (tbook or DocBook?) plus appropriate tools. I'm ruling out 
Word (having wrestled with it at work), and am reluctant to use anything 
similar like OpenOffice. I have used LaTeX for some things in the past. 
I was in a similar situation a few years ago (writing my PhD thesis). I 
think you are absolutely right when you avoid Word and everything 
Wordish. Making a big document with Word requires a lot of knowledge 
about what you should avoid. And in the end you'll still spend your 
nights wondering why the  the crossreferences or page numbers go wrong.

I ended up using LaTeX. I didn't know much about ConTeXt by that time,
and also had a lot of maths in the book. I am not sure which one I'd 
take, if I could choose right now. I think your choice is one of the 
following: LaTeX, DocBook, ConTeXt, ConTeXt+XML.

However, your wishlist looks a bit difficult. A few comments:
1) future-proofing.
LaTeX is more common. On the other hand, you can (and should) take a 
snapshot of your working environment when you've finished what you're doing.

All TeX variants (and XML stuff) are future-proof in the sense that all 
text and images are easy to recover if needed. Use only PDF, JPG, and 
PNG for images to be on the safe side. Reproducing the same layout 
depends on many other issues, even small changes in font metrics may 
change things. It is also well possible that 30 years from now nobody 
remembers ConTeXt (or DocBook or LaTeX or TeX).

XML is in a way a safe bet, but even there you're up to some programming 
if the tools disappear.

2) semantic rather than layout-oriented markup as much as possible.
I think this is something you can do with all alternatives. In a typical 
ConTeXt (and LaTeX) file there is a lot of layout stuff in the 
beginning, but in the document itself the tagging is really independent 
from layout, if you've done the preliminary work right. At least I 
consider it bad style, if you use explicit font switches or equivalent 
in a document.

However, even if you think the layout is not that important, you'll need 
to do a lot of things with it before having a printable book. In this 
sense ConTeXt seems to give a lot of possibilities, but the 
documentation is not very complete. LaTeX is a bit more difficult, and 
you need to do more TeXing, but in practice you don't as someone else 
has done it before (packages). Fonts are difficult in any case :)

I am not a DocBook specialist, but my impression is that it is really 
not so much geared towards printable layout. This, of course, makes the 
markup separate from the layout.

This is the key in making successful documents with any system: The 
content and the layout are two different layers. Word processing 
programs mix them into a sorry mess, but for the smoothest workflow they 
should be separated. It should even be possible for different people do 
do carry out the two different tasks.

3) relatively easy integration with some form of bibliographic 
database(ish) system (bibtex would do).
(.*)TeX will do.
4) ability to produce pdf's, html, and rtf versions (for interoperation 
with Word-users) at least.
PDF is a must. HTML can be reproduced from (.*)TeX, but DocBook is the 
only one designed with HTML in mind. On the other hand this may reflect 
to the print quality; TeX is a real typesetting system. There are ways 
to make TeX out of DocBook (e.g. passiveTeX), but the quality is not 
always as good as with other alternatives.

HTML is more a matter of taste. A nicely working PDF is -- IMHO -- much 
easier to use. It is easy to search from the complete document, and 
links from the index and ToC make the use straightforward. Modern 
displays are sufficiently high-res for PDF to be read on-screen. Also, 
printing a complete PDF document is easy.

The situation becomes much more complicated if you need RTF. It is a 
completely different story, a word processor editable format. I guess 
you don't really want to distribute your work in editable format, and 
PDF can be read with virtually any computer.

So, I'd concentrate on making a visually pleasing high-quality PDF with 
working links in it. That will make most readers happy.

5) no need for me to write any code. I used to be a programmer, and when 
I left, promised myself, my wife, and my cat that I would never write a 
line of code again. I don't mind a bit of TeXish fiddling if 
*absolutely* necessary.
All alternatives are equivalent in this sense. Of course, if you plan on 
doing something with ConTeXt/XML, that requires some work, but not 
really programming. And all layout stuff with (.*)TeX requires some 
serious head scratching in the beginning, anyway.

ConTeXt seems to fit the bill for 1,3 and 5. I'm not sure about 4 (html? 
rtf?) or 2 (I haven't had a proper look at the nature of the available 
macros yet) .
I'd say it'll fill number 2, as well. But RTF, no. There may be kludges 
to make it kind of, you know, a bit like, errr, RTFish, but nothing 
really good. The re

Re: [NTG-context] no 'd' in math-eul.tex

2005-05-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Johan Sandblom wrote:
In the math-eul.tex shown in the contextgarden.net source browser
dated 2003.02.03, which is the only one I have found, the following lines 
occur

...
\definemathcharacter [c]   [nothing] [mr] ["63]
\definemathcharacter [d]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
\definemathcharacter [e]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
\definemathcharacter [f]   [nothing] [mr] ["66]
...
and
...
\definemathcharacter [C]   [nothing] [mr] ["43]
\definemathcharacter [D]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
\definemathcharacter [E]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
\definemathcharacter [F]   [nothing] [mr] ["46]
...
making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
mistake? 
indeed, should be "64 and "44
hans
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Re: [NTG-context] no 'd' in math-eul.tex

2005-05-09 Thread Adam Lindsay
Hmm, disturbing.

What system/engine are you using?
Could you email me with your output (off-list is best), and include 
\showfont[zeurm10] as well?

cheers,
adam

Johan Sandblom said this at Mon, 9 May 2005 11:01:51 +0200:

>If 'c' and 'C' in your example are changed to
>'d' and 'D', it illustrates the point. I also have
>the fonts installed following your excellent guide.
>
>Johan
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>-- Bertrand Russell
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Adam Lindsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Monday, May 9, 2005 10:05 am
>Subject: Re: [NTG-context] no 'd' in math-eul.tex
>
>> Johan Sandblom said this at Mon, 9 May 2005 09:14:29 +0200:
>> 
>> >making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
>> >mistake? 
>> 
>> Huh? I think those hex values are correct.
>> Do you have a test case that doesn't work for you? This works for 
>> me (I
>> have the EulerVM fonts installed):
>> 
>> \definetypeface[cheu][rm][serif][charter][default][encoding=ec]
>> \definetypeface[cheu][mm][math][euler][euler][rscale=1.05]
>> \setupbodyfont[cheu]
>> 
>> \starttext
>> \startformula
>> A + B + C = A^{B^C}
>> \stopformula
>> \startformula
>> a + b + c = a^{b^c}
>> \stopformula
>> 
>> \stoptext
>> 
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Re: [NTG-context] INstalling a new version of context

2005-05-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater

bb wrote:
I think it would be a very useful exercise for hh
to install a complete texlive on a stock fedora box. 
I'm sure he would be happy to, if you provided the box and some
funding (!).
Most developers that work on free software miss at least
one of the following:
 * spare hardware
 * spare disk space
 * spare operating systems
 * spare time
Then write down
_every_ step necessary to get beta cont-tmf.zip installed and working.
I guess I could conceivably try to do this, as long as I only have to
do it once, but I will not be able to provide support for it afterwards.
I have a fairly complex TeX setup, and for that reason I do not
use texlive. I can try to write down this howto for *current* context
beta and *current* pdfetex, but afterwards I have to revert my system
back to 'normal operation' immediately, so there is no way for me to
keep on helping people after the initial installation.
Assuming someone volunteers to pick up supporting context-on-texlive
afterwards, then I am willing to write down the initial page.
But I do not want to waste a day fighting TeXlive for no good,
so unless I hear from someone, I will do nothing.
I would think that targeting texlive as the standard platform for
distributing context on linux/unix would make the most sense. It
should _not_ be necessary to make anything but a trivial change to
texmf.cnf.
Have you complained to the TeXlive maintainers as well? After all,
they are the distributors. Perhaps they could make it just a bit
easier to add stuff to an existing TeXlive install? The upgrade
path for  any TeXlive basically is: download an update iso image,
burn it, and re-install. There is no support for partial upgrades
(at least there wasn't last time I looked, which is, admittedly,
 a few years ago)
Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] no 'd' in math-eul.tex

2005-05-09 Thread Johan Sandblom
If 'c' and 'C' in your example are changed to
'd' and 'D', it illustrates the point. I also have
the fonts installed following your excellent guide.

Johan

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- Original Message -
From: Adam Lindsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, May 9, 2005 10:05 am
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] no 'd' in math-eul.tex

> Johan Sandblom said this at Mon, 9 May 2005 09:14:29 +0200:
> 
> >making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
> >mistake? 
> 
> Huh? I think those hex values are correct.
> Do you have a test case that doesn't work for you? This works for 
> me (I
> have the EulerVM fonts installed):
> 
> \definetypeface[cheu][rm][serif][charter][default][encoding=ec]
> \definetypeface[cheu][mm][math][euler][euler][rscale=1.05]
> \setupbodyfont[cheu]
> 
> \starttext
> \startformula
> A + B + C = A^{B^C}
> \stopformula
> \startformula
> a + b + c = a^{b^c}
> \stopformula
> 
> \stoptext
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] no 'd' in math-eul.tex

2005-05-09 Thread Adam Lindsay
Johan Sandblom said this at Mon, 9 May 2005 09:14:29 +0200:

>making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
>mistake? 

Huh? I think those hex values are correct.
Do you have a test case that doesn't work for you? This works for me (I
have the EulerVM fonts installed):

\definetypeface[cheu][rm][serif][charter][default][encoding=ec]
\definetypeface[cheu][mm][math][euler][euler][rscale=1.05]
\setupbodyfont[cheu]
 
 \starttext
\startformula
A + B + C = A^{B^C}
\stopformula
\startformula
a + b + c = a^{b^c}
\stopformula

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] alignment issues

2005-05-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater

\startalignment[right] bla bla bla \stopalignment
You can use
  \startalignment[flushleft] bla bla bla \stopalignment
instead
Taco
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[NTG-context] no 'd' in math-eul.tex

2005-05-09 Thread Johan Sandblom
In the math-eul.tex shown in the contextgarden.net source browser
dated 2003.02.03, which is the only one I have found, the following lines 
occur

...
\definemathcharacter [c]   [nothing] [mr] ["63]
\definemathcharacter [d]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
\definemathcharacter [e]   [nothing] [mr] ["65]
\definemathcharacter [f]   [nothing] [mr] ["66]
...

and

...
\definemathcharacter [C]   [nothing] [mr] ["43]
\definemathcharacter [D]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
\definemathcharacter [E]   [nothing] [mr] ["45]
\definemathcharacter [F]   [nothing] [mr] ["46]
...

making 'd' and 'D' print as 'e' and 'E'. I suppose this is a
mistake? 

Regards, Johan

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will to find out, which is the exact opposite" 
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