Re: [NTG-context] Closing PDF file at each run

2006-02-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Hooman Javidnia wrote:
 but still the PDF is not refreshed for the second run. I am using Acrobat
 7. I read in WinEdt's mailing list that Adobe Acrobat has changed its
 caption from version 6 onwards. Could this be a problem related to the
 versions of Acrobat? 

I wouldn't think so. Perhaps texexec cannot find pdfopen?
(I am out of my league now, not using windows myself)

Cheers,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Closing PDF file at each run

2006-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Hooman Javidnia wrote:

 but still the PDF is not refreshed for the second run. I am using Acrobat
 7. I read in WinEdt's mailing list that Adobe Acrobat has changed its
 caption from version 6 onwards. Could this be a problem related to the
 versions of Acrobat? 
   
it works ok here; no caption i sinvolved afaik 

does it work from the console? 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] mswincontext.zip installation

2006-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen
� wrote:
 Hi,

 thanks ! that did it for me...

 I did (a) and then (b)  :)

 Here is the sequence I used (assuming C:\Programs\context)

 Start-Run-cmd
 cd C:\Programs\context
 cdemo.bat

 Then I closed the SciTe thing but I remained in the cmd.

 Then, in one line as Mojca says:
 C:\Programs\context\usr\local\context\tex\setuptex.bat
 C:\Programs\context\usr\local\context\tex

 And
 texexec --make --all

 Then I closed the cmd, started by double click the cdemo.bat and voila !
   
there is also a colsole in scite itself (just key in texexec --make --all in 
the log pane) 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

2006-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen
� wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have problem with chars encoding now; I have updated ConTeXt sometimes in
 January; before the time I was using old (year) version. In this
 prehistorical version the problem was not present.

 What is the stuff? The following code generates content with titles without
 spaces -- accented characters are replaced with \char XXX variant, so during
 reading TUI line TeX gobbles a space after XXX as a part of number syntax
 rule.
   
can you send me a zip with the test file so that the 8 bit chars are ok? 

Hans  


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Re: [NTG-context] wrong order of content-list items if using balanced columnsets

2006-02-28 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote:
 Vit Zyka wrote:
 
Hello Wizards,

the next example illustrates the problem with wrong order of 
content-list items if using balanced columnsets:

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\setuplayout[grid=yes,topspace=1cm,bottomspace=1cm,height=middle]
\showgrid

\definecolumnset[A][n=2,balance=yes]
\setupcolumnsetlines[A][1][1][21]
\setupcolumnsetlines[A][1][2][21]
\definecolumnset[B][n=2,balance=yes]

\starttext
\startcolumnset[A]
   \section{Knuth}
   \dorecurse{2}{\input knuth \endgraf}
\stopcolumnset
\placeongrid{\hairline}
\startcolumnset[B]
   \section{Zapf}
   \dorecurse{1}{\input zapf \endgraf}
   \blank
   Content:
   \placecontent[criterium=all]
\stopcolumnset

\stoptext


Problem is that the second section (Zapf) is inserted to .tui before the 
first one (Knuth). My observation: on the page where one columnset (A) 
is closed by \setupcolumnsetlines and the second (B) continues, .tuo 
contains marks from B firstly. This makes book content unsable in this 
configuration.

Any solutions? I am thinking about: Proper order writting to .tuo or to 
sort items according to mark number - it is correct (not sure if it is 
implemented?).
  
 
 it's a kind of bug; how about swapping the order: (page-lyr.tex)
 
 \def\settextpagecontent#1#2#3% #2 and #3 will disappear
   {\doifelselayerdata{OTRTEXT}
  {\setbox#1\hbox to \makeupwidth
 {\startoverlay
{\tightlayer[OTRTEXT]} % first, otherwise problems with toc
{\normalsettextpagecontent{#1}{#2}{#3}\box#1}
  \stopoverlay}%
   \dp#1\zeropoint}%
  {\normalsettextpagecontent{#1}{#2}{#3}}}
 

Slaaav!

 (you really don't want to know what happens there -) 

World record document with 40 balanced columnsets says it is OK.

Thanks you Hans
Vit
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[NTG-context] \input introduces space

2006-02-28 Thread Peter Münster
Hello,
\input seems to introduce a space. Example:

\starttext
\immediate\write18{echo -n X bla.tex}
X\input bla\relax X
\stoptext

How could I get rid of this space?

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Re: [NTG-context] \input introduces space

2006-02-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi Peter,

Not the \input command, but the end-of-line in the inputted file
is creating the space, indirectly. TeX normally appends a character
with the current value of \endlinechar to each line of an input-ed
file, and that character is later converted to a space.

Setting \endlinechar to -1 temporarily is a possibility, another
is writing a percent sign to the end of the line, yet another is
ending the written line with \relax (or a similar space-gobbling
command), and finally changing the catcode of the current
\endlinechar to 9 (ignored) also works.

Cheers, Taco

Peter Münster wrote:
 Hello,
 \input seems to introduce a space. Example:
 
 \starttext
 \immediate\write18{echo -n X bla.tex}
 X\input bla\relax X
 \stoptext
 
 How could I get rid of this space?
 
 Cheers, Peter
 
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Re: [NTG-context] \input introduces space

2006-02-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Setting \endlinechar to -1 temporarily is a possibility, another
 is writing a percent sign to the end of the line, yet another is
 ending the written line with \relax (or a similar space-gobbling
 command), and finally changing the catcode of the current
 \endlinechar to 9 (ignored) also works.

Here is a file demonstrating all four:


\starttext

% 1
\immediate\write18{echo -n X bla1.tex}
X{\endlinechar=-1 \input bla1 }X

% 2
\immediate\write18{echo -n X\letterpercent bla2.tex}
X\input bla2 X

% 3
\immediate
   \write18
 {echo -n X\letterbackslash\letterbackslash relax bla3.tex}
X\input bla3 X

% 4
\immediate\write18{echo -n X bla4.tex}
X{\catcode`\^^M=9 \input bla4 }X

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] \input introduces space

2006-02-28 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
  Setting \endlinechar to -1 temporarily is a possibility, another
  is writing a percent sign to the end of the line, yet another is
  ending the written line with \relax (or a similar space-gobbling
  command), and finally changing the catcode of the current
  \endlinechar to 9 (ignored) also works.
 
 Here is a file demonstrating all four:

Hello Taco,
thanks a lot for your solutions, one can even omit the -n now!
Cheers, Peter

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Re: [NTG-context] \input introduces space

2006-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Hi Peter,

 Not the \input command, but the end-of-line in the inputted file
 is creating the space, indirectly. TeX normally appends a character
 with the current value of \endlinechar to each line of an input-ed
 file, and that character is later converted to a space.

 Setting \endlinechar to -1 temporarily is a possibility, another
 is writing a percent sign to the end of the line, yet another is
 ending the written line with \relax (or a similar space-gobbling
 command), and finally changing the catcode of the current
 \endlinechar to 9 (ignored) also works.

 Cheers, Taco

 Peter M�nster wrote:
   
 Hello,
 \input seems to introduce a space. Example:

 \starttext
 \immediate\write18{echo -n X bla.tex}
 X\input bla\relax X
 \stoptext

 How could I get rid of this space?

 Cheers, Peter

 
in addition to taco's answers: 

X\ignorespaces \input bla\relax \removeunwantedspaces X

can help you out; 

btw, can you wikify taco's response? somewhere under 'how tex reads input'; in 
due time we can then add some additional info about how scantokens etc behave 
(everyeof stuff and such) 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] mswincontext.zip installation

2006-02-28 Thread Keith McKay
And me to! Thanks!

Would some kind soul care to write up on the Wiki the best way to update the
windows stand alone version?  Please.

Keith

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Hi,

thanks ! that did it for me...

I did (a) and then (b)  :)

Here is the sequence I used (assuming C:\Programs\context)

Start-Run-cmd
cd C:\Programs\context
cdemo.bat

Then I closed the SciTe thing but I remained in the cmd.

Then, in one line as Mojca says:
C:\Programs\context\usr\local\context\tex\setuptex.bat
C:\Programs\context\usr\local\context\tex

And
texexec --make --all

Then I closed the cmd, started by double click the cdemo.bat and voila !


Thanks !

jima





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nombre de Mojca Miklavec
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Para: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Asunto: Re: [NTG-context] mswincontext.zip installation


Jose Ignacio Marín Alberdi wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am experiencing some trouble using mswincontext.zip.

 I have properly installed perl and ruby as the wiki says.


(http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Windows_Installation#Stand-alone_ConTeXt_dist
 ribution)

 But when it comes to use cdemo.bat I got:

 texmfstart newtexexec.rb --autopdf --pdf demo-tex.tex
 TeXExec | processing document 'demo-tex.tex'
 TeXExec | provide ctx file
 TeXExec | tex processing method: context
 TeXExec | TeX run 1
 TeXExec | tex engine: pdfetex
 TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
 TeXExec | progname: context
 This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.3-2.2 (Web2c 7.5.5)  \write18 
 enabled. I can't find the format file `cont-en.fmt'!
 TeXExec | runtime: 2.594
 Exit code: 0


 I thought this was a click and go package installation. I guess I 
 have
to
 do some format creation and all that, but I have nothing TeXy 
 installed (just the mswincontext.zip). What do I need?

Sorry, this step is missing on Wiki (forgotten).

Can you try the following:

Open command line (Start-Run-cmd) and do either a) or b):
a) cd to directory where cdemo.bat resides, execute it and exit (this will
set the path for you)

b) execute (this should be in one line):
C:\Programs\context\usr\local\context\tex\setuptex.bat
C:\Programs\context\usr\local\context\tex
(change C:\Programs\context to the proper folder)

Then execute
texexec --make --all

The last one is the crucial step for making formats.

Perhaps making formats should be present in menu in Scite (perhaps it
already is, I can't check from here).

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] framing columns

2006-02-28 Thread Hans van der Meer
Hans,

Thanks for your suggestion, but in the meantime I worked hard to find  
a solution and now do a framedtext within a framed text.
Calculating the width and height of the inner framedtext from the  
surrounding one's offset and the margin wanted.  After puzzling out  
that location=middle can put the inner framedtext centered it seems  
to work for me. But it is a bit more work than the solution you are  
showing me here; surely I will try your suggestion because it seems  
so much simpler. I must admit I would not have found out on my own  
about the two uses of \hsize.

As for your question: can you put that in the wiki? I have not the  
faintest idea of how to put things in a wiki. Not even do I  
understand the phenomenon wiki.

yours sincerely,
dr. H. van der Meer



On Feb 28, 2006, at 2:42, Hans Hagen wrote:

 Hans van der Meer wrote:
 A nasty problem arises when I try to enclose columns into a
 framedtext and at the same time want to typeset it narrower inside
 the frame.

 1. framedtext: columns will not typeset, simplecolumns does
 2. narrower:  columns honors narrowing, simplecolumns does not.

 Now I am caught between two impossibilities.
 Is it an option that simplecolumns will also be honoring
 startnarrower..stopnarrower?
 Is there another, simple solution?

 \framed[width=\hsize]\bgroup
 \startnarrower
 \setlocalhsize \hsize\localhsize
 \startsimplecolumns
 \input tufte \par
 \input tufte\par
 \stopsimplecolumns
 \stopnarrower
 \egroup

 - when no width is given, framed will to to find the best fit
 - you set the hsize according to the narrower before the columns

 can you put that in the wiki?

 Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] setupbackgrounds?

2006-02-28 Thread Hans van der Meer
Hans,

 ah, just omit the \showframe since it's built on top of the  
 background mechanism and when activated it disables backgrounds

Thanks, I would never have thougt of that.

yours sincerely,
dr. H. van der Meer



On Feb 28, 2006, at 2:08, Hans Hagen wrote:

 Hans van der Meer wrote:
 I cannot get backgrounds to work as I understand from the manual.

 This example is from the manual:
 \setupcolors[state=start]
 \setupinteraction[state=start] % don't if needed, manual p. 122 seems
 to suggest it
 \setupbackgrounds[header,text,footer][text]
 [background=color,backgroundcolor=darkcyan]
 \showframe

 This does not show coloring of the indicated area. It colors only
 when the first option is [page] or [paper] and then it colors the
 whole page. So I never get coloring in the indicated parts.

 ah, just omit the \showframe since it's built on top of the  
 background mechanism and when activated it disables backgrounds

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Re: [NTG-context] \input introduces space

2006-02-28 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Hans Hagen wrote:

 btw, can you wikify taco's response? somewhere under 'how tex reads
 input'; in due time we can then add some additional info about how
 scantokens etc behave (everyeof stuff and such)

Of course, but it won't be possible the next 10 days, so be patient.
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[NTG-context] some commands still use texexec without texmfstart

2006-02-28 Thread Aditya Mahajan
Hi,
  I use a standalone context distribution in parallel with miktex. The 
way miktex is configured, it provides a texexec.exe file in its bin 
directory. Context provides a texexec.bat file in its bin directory. 
Normally, texexec is supposed to be run using texmfstart which picks 
texexec.rb from the script directory and everything works fine. There 
are however some macros that call texexec without texmfstart. As a 
result the miktex texexec (texexec.exe) is called over context's 
texexec.bat. I am listing the files that call raw texexec. Shouldn't 
all of these be called using texmfstart?

1. core-fig.tex has a line
\executesystemcommand{texmfstart texexec.pl --batch --pdf #1 #3}}
Notice the texexec.pl

2. page-app.tex has a line
\executesystemcommand{texexec \bufferprefix\@@texapp.tex --once 
--batch}
No texmfstart

3. supp-mps.tex has a definition
 \def\executeMPTEX#1%
 {texexec 
 }
  No texmfstart

Some support scripts also use texexec without texmfstart

1. mptopdf.pl has a line
  $mpbin = 'texexec --mptex $PassOn' }

2. texfont.pl has
if ($show) { system (texexec --once --silent $texfile) }

3. texsync uses
system(texexec --make --alone #{str})

4. ctxtools.rb uses
one = texexec --make --alone --all #{interface}
two = texexec --batch --silent --interface=#{interface} x-set-01

5. pdftrimwhite uses
$result = `texexec --batch --once --purge $resultfile` }

6.  makempy.pl uses
$tex{context}   = texexec --batch --once --interface=en --pdf ;





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[NTG-context] texexec.ini not read

2006-02-28 Thread Aditya Mahajan
I was trying to make the stand along context work with cygwin using 
cygwin ruby. Following the advice on the wiki of adding 
/scripts/context/ruby to rubylib, everything works fine. However, I am 
not able to enable write18. I copied texexec.rme to texexec.ini and 
added -shell-escape to all set TeXPassString in texexec.ini. However, 
I still get

system(mpost .) disabled

in my log file. Reading through newtexexec.rb it seems that it does 
not check the ini file. Is this correct? Or am I missing something.

Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] Search in ConTeXt PDF files

2006-02-28 Thread Marcus Vinicius Mesquita de So
Hi, HansI uploaded a small test file with its pdf in a zip file (46.7 kb) to this link:  http://rapidshare.de/files/14396912/teste.zip.htmlI searched the word Kephalaia, which appears in the header,  but Acrobat (v. 7.0.7) can not find the word...GreetingsMarcus ViniciusHans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Marcus Vinicius Mesquita de So wrote:   Hi! Strangely Acrobat does not find words in headers. Did this ocurred already to anyone?can you make a small pdf file that we can test?Hans -  Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 
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Re: [NTG-context] Closing PDF file at each run

2006-02-28 Thread FabriceL.

Hooman Javidnia a écrit :

 Hi,

 When compiling a file in SciTE using F7, if the file, is already open in
 Adobe Acrobat, the compilation stops and asks for a new file name to write
 the PDF file to. I think the normal behavior would be to automatically
 close the current instance of the file in Acrobat and compile it again.

 Is there something wrong with my installation, or this is a bug?
 Regards, -- Hooman

Hi. This is interesting, since I have the same problem with WinEdt and 
Acrobat (on Windows). I had notice
that is there is not input file in my ConTeXt file, then, when I compile 
by WinEdt interface,
the pdf file is closed with no problem. If I use an \input file.tex 
command in the ConTeXt file,
then one ask me a file name for the pdf, since the file can not be 
closed automatically. I had
consult WinEdt mailing  list too, and no solution there. I have no 
solution, but from the symtom
I describe, I suspect this is a ConTeXt thing...

Fabrice.
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Re: [NTG-context] Closing PDF file at each run

2006-02-28 Thread Hooman Javidnia
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Hans Hagen wrote:

 Hooman Javidnia wrote:
 
  but still the PDF is not refreshed for the second run. I am using Acrobat
  7. I read in WinEdt's mailing list that Adobe Acrobat has changed its
  caption from version 6 onwards. Could this be a problem related to the
  versions of Acrobat? 

 it works ok here; no caption i sinvolved afaik 
 
 does it work from the console? 

No, it doesn't work. From the messeage at the end of the compilation, I
can see that 'pdfopen' can't be found on the system. Taco's guess was
correct. Is this command part
of TeX implementation or I should download it from somewhere?



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Re: [NTG-context] texexec.ini not read

2006-02-28 Thread Aditya Mahajan
--- On Feb 28, Aditya Mahajan wrote ---

 I was trying to make the stand along context work with cygwin using
 cygwin ruby. Following the advice on the wiki of adding
 /scripts/context/ruby to rubylib, everything works fine. However, I am
 not able to enable write18. I copied texexec.rme to texexec.ini and
 added -shell-escape to all set TeXPassString in texexec.ini. However,
 I still get

 system(mpost .) disabled

 in my log file. Reading through newtexexec.rb it seems that it does
 not check the ini file. Is this correct? Or am I missing something.

Strange. If I run the command for dos command prompt, I get
system (mpost .) executed

It seems that texexec is looking at different profiles under cygwin. 
Or rather, for some reason texexec can not find the correct file in 
cygwin. I am attaching both log files. There is not much difference 
there.

It seems that I still need to work with cmd rather than bash :-(
Any hints will be appreciated.


Aditya

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