Re: [NTG-context] how to produce text with facing translation?

2006-03-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 Great Hans, I'll remind you in a week. And I do hope your family  
 business is a pleasant one...
   
no, a tragedy, 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] Unexpected behaviour of setuptyping

2006-03-06 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 core-ver.tex to suggest such a behaviour. Is this a bug or a feature?

Feature, I think. Use of color is the default behavior when
colors are enabled.

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Re: [NTG-context] typbuffer with commands

2006-03-06 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Patrick Gundlach wrote:
 Hello again,
 
 I know I can use \starttyping with commands by saying
 \setuptyping[option=commands] and then /BTEX \red{a red text}}/ETEX.
 Can I do the same for \typebuffer[mybuf]? So for example:

No, you can't because buffers are files, and \typefile explicitly
disables option=commands, option=slanted and option=normal.
That bit of code looks quite on purpose, but if you don't mind
hacking, look at lines 10 and 11 of \dodotypefile in core-ver.tex

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Re: [NTG-context] enattab example

2006-03-06 Thread Peter Rolf
Hi Patrick,

Patrick Gundlach wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I tried the first example from the natrural tables pdf (enattab.pdf),
 and my output looks very compressed. Same on live.contextgarden.net.
 Is this the way it should look like? In contrast to the output of the
 enattab.pdf file.


Combined columns are not taken into account when the column maxima are
calculated. You can test that by inserting something very long and
unbreakable. But it's not a very common case, that

- the content of the combined column is shorter than the sum of the
single columns *and*
- the content can't (or shouldn't) be broken

When you think about a table with several overlaping combined columns
and their width dependencies (needed blow up), then you can imagine that
it's not worth the trouble to consider these special cases. It can be
done, but I doubt that the final result looks good (and in the end you
have to edit the width values by hand). But maybe I'm wrong with this
assumption.

Greetings, Peter

 \starttext
 \bTABLE
 \bTR \bTD[nr=3] 1 \eTD \bTD[nc=2] 2/3 \eTD \bTD[nr=3] 4 \eTD \eTR 
 \bTR \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \eTR 
 \bTR \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \eTR 
 \bTR \bTD[nc=3] 1/2/3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR 
 \bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR 
 \eTABLE
 \stoptext
 
 
 Patrick

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[NTG-context] \setupfootnotes[split=?] query

2006-03-06 Thread Alan Bowen
Currently I have \setupfootnotes[split=verystrict] and I am still  
getting one footnote call that occurs on the last line of page n   
where the note itself appears on page n+1.

Is there a way to prevent this by assigning split= a number? If so,  
what numerical value will work? Or is there another setting?

Thanks for any help.

Cheers, Alan

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[NTG-context] problems with uppercase Greek letters in math

2006-03-06 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hello,

The uppercase Greek letters in the following example don't work since
the letters are taken from ec encoding, while the default TeX encoding
is assumed in the definitions of Phi, Psi, ... (mr, math roman font)

Any suggestions how to fix this strange behaviour?

Thanks a lot,
Mojca


\starttypescript [something] [ec,texnansi]
  \definetypeface [somename] [rm] [serif] [modern] [default]
[encoding=\typescripttwo]
\stoptypescript

\usetypescript[something][ec]
\setupbodyfont[somename,rm]

\starttext
$\Psi\Phi\Lambda$
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] problems with uppercase Greek letters in math

2006-03-06 Thread Adam Lindsay
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 Hello,
 
 The uppercase Greek letters in the following example don't work since
 the letters are taken from ec encoding, while the default TeX encoding
 is assumed in the definitions of Phi, Psi, ... (mr, math roman font)
 
 Any suggestions how to fix this strange behaviour?
 
 \starttypescript [something] [ec,texnansi]
   \definetypeface [somename] [rm] [serif] [modern] [default]
 [encoding=\typescripttwo]
 \stoptypescript

Hi Mojca,

My rule-of-thumb would be that if you're going to use math in your 
document, you're best off defining something for the [mm] [math] family: ;)

\starttypescript [something] [ec,texnansi]
   \definetypeface [somename] [rm] [serif] [modern] [default]
[encoding=\typescripttwo]
   \definetypeface [somename] [mm] [math] [modern] [modern]
[encoding=\typescripttwo]
\stoptypescript

Hope that helps.

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Re: [NTG-context] problems with uppercase Greek letters in math

2006-03-06 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 3/6/06, Adam Lindsay wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec wrote:
  Hello,
 
  The uppercase Greek letters in the following example don't work since
  the letters are taken from ec encoding, while the default TeX encoding
  is assumed in the definitions of Phi, Psi, ... (mr, math roman font)
 
  Any suggestions how to fix this strange behaviour?
 
  \starttypescript [something] [ec,texnansi]
\definetypeface [somename] [rm] [serif] [modern] [default]
  [encoding=\typescripttwo]
  \stoptypescript

 Hi Mojca,

 My rule-of-thumb would be that if you're going to use math in your
 document, you're best off defining something for the [mm] [math] family: ;)

Thanks a lot for the extremely quick answer. This solved the problem!

And it was really stupid of me. I actually use two typescripts in the
document and I defined math font in the second one (because I needed
another font for math in titles). But I thought that the default math
family was OK. It also worked without any problems untill I tried to
use ucgreek.

(Is [encoding=\typescripttwo] used in math or may it be left out?)

 \starttypescript [something] [ec,texnansi]
\definetypeface [somename] [rm] [serif] [modern] [default]
 [encoding=\typescripttwo]
\definetypeface [somename] [mm] [math] [modern] [modern]
 [encoding=\typescripttwo]
 \stoptypescript

Thanks again,
Mojca
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[NTG-context] randomize a color

2006-03-06 Thread Johan Sandblom
The following produces one red square and two black ones, as opposed
to one red and two randomly perturbed but also red ones I was hoping
for. To my poor understanding this usage seems to comply with that
defined in mp-tool.mp. What am I doing wrong.

Regards, Johan

\setupcolors[state=start]
\definecolor[tilered][r=.425, g=0, b=0]
\definecolor[smudge][r=.1, g=.1, b=.1]

\defineoverlay[page][\useMPgraphic{page}]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=page]

\startuseMPgraphic{page}
fill unitsquare scaled 2cm withcolor \MPcolor{tilered} ;
fill unitsquare
  scaled 2cm
  shifted (2cm,0cm)
  withcolor \MPcolor{tilered} randomized .1 ;
fill unitsquare
  scaled 2cm
  shifted (4cm,0cm)
  withcolor \MPcolor{tilered} randomized \MPcolor{smudge} ;
\stopuseMPgraphic

\starttext

test

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] problems with uppercase Greek letters in math

2006-03-06 Thread Adam Lindsay
Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 (Is [encoding=\typescripttwo] used in math or may it be left out?)

I tend to leave it out. I believe the encoding= value there is ignored.

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Re: [NTG-context] randomize a color

2006-03-06 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Johan Sandblom wrote:
 The following produces one red square and two black ones, as opposed
 to one red and two randomly perturbed but also red ones I was hoping
 for. To my poor understanding this usage seems to comply with that
 defined in mp-tool.mp. What am I doing wrong.

hint: your redpart gets a random value between 0 and 0.0425

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Re: [NTG-context] randomize a color

2006-03-06 Thread Johan Sandblom
Well, being stupid isn't much fun, you know. One of the few
consolations is bothering knowledgable people with questions that you
are unable to figure out the (albeit obvious) answer to ...

Thank you, Johan

2006/3/6, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Johan Sandblom wrote:
  The following produces one red square and two black ones, as opposed
  to one red and two randomly perturbed but also red ones I was hoping
  for. To my poor understanding this usage seems to comply with that
  defined in mp-tool.mp. What am I doing wrong.

 hint: your redpart gets a random value between 0 and 0.0425

 Cheers, taco



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[NTG-context] metaobj and colors

2006-03-06 Thread Renaud AUBIN

Hi all !

According to previous posts entitled [NTG-context] metafun boxes, I
use metaobj but I have a small problem.
After reading the metaobj manual, I would change the color of several
ellipse shapes... But using b.option_framecolor_:=blue; or
newEllipse.a(btex a framed text etex) framecolor(red); do not work...

Any idea ?

\startuseMPgraphic{grapheliaison1mec}
input metaobj; % here because if I put this in MPinclusions,
   % it corrupts other graphics (i.e. strange
results with drawarrow anglebetween)

newEllipse.a(btex $S_1$ etex) fit(false);
newEllipse.b(btex $S_2$ etex) fit(false);
newEllipse.c(btex $S_3$ etex) fit(false);
newEllipse.d(btex $S_4$ etex) fit(false);
newEllipse.e(btex $S_5$ etex) fit(false);
newEllipse.f(btex $S_6$ etex) fit(false);
newEllipse.g(btex $S_0$ etex) fit(false);

b.option_framecolor_:=blue;

newMatrix.mat(3,5)(nb,b,d,nb,nb, a,nb,nb,f,g, nb,c,e,nb,nb)
hsep(1.5cm), vsep(1.5cm);

mcarc.mat(2,1,1,2) name(ab);
ObjLabel.mat(btex $L_{12}$ etex) labpathname(ab),labdir(ulft);
mcarc.mat(2,1,3,2) name(ac);
ObjLabel.mat(btex $L_{13}$ etex) labpathname(ac),labdir(llft);
mcarc.mat(1,2,1,3) name(bd);
ObjLabel.mat(btex $L_{24}$ etex) labpathname(bd),labdir(top);
mcarc.mat(3,2,3,3) name(ce);
ObjLabel.mat(btex $L_{35}$ etex) labpathname(ce),labdir(bot);
mcarc.mat(1,3,2,4) name(df);
ObjLabel.mat(btex $L_{46}$ etex) labpathname(df),labdir(urt);
mcarc.mat(3,3,2,4) name(ef);
ObjLabel.mat(btex $L_{56}$ etex) labpathname(ef),labdir(lrt);
mcarc.mat(2,4,2,5) name(fg);
ObjLabel.mat(btex $L_{60}$ etex) labpathname(fg),labdir(top);

mat.c = origin;
drawObj(mat);
\stopuseMPgraphic

Cheers,

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Re: [NTG-context] Example of correspondence

2006-03-06 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 3/3/06, vittorio wrote:
 I have rread the document on correspondence from ConTeXt site to no avail.
 What I need is a very small, working, complete example of a textmerge
 operation with context.
 Where can I find anything of the kind in the net?
 Thanks.
 Vittorio

You said that you did it in LaTeX. Perhaps try to explain what you did
or what you would like to do that LaTeX didn't offer you.

I suppose that solving your problem should be simple enough, but you
have to tell a bit more about it: what kind of input data you have
(from database, manually typeset?), what troubles you (for example if
you don't know how to typeset certain parts of your letter, so that it
will look nice, ...), ...

There are numerous possibilities. In contrast to Word you have a magic
keyword \def in TeX, which means that you can define your own
commands and do just about every trickery with it.

I don't know if I even understood you properly. Here's a very small
ugly example of how you could typeset hundreds of more-or-less equal
pages to be printed. It has no design, but you have to tell how and
what you want before people can help you further.

% start new page  supress page numbering
\setuphead[subject][page=yes]
\setuppagenumbering[location=]

% here you have to define the body of your letter
\def\TypesetALetter#1#2{%
\subject{Dear #1,}
You are invited to #2.
\blank[medium]
\midaligned{Vittorio}%
}
% define a special kind of a letter
\def\PartyInvitation#1{%
\TypesetALetter{#1}{a party next week}
}

\starttext

\TypesetALetter{Alex}{join me on the trip on Sunday}
\TypesetALetter{sister}{a very special event next week}

\PartyInvitation{Ann}
\PartyInvitation{Betty}
\PartyInvitation{Sue}

\stoptext

For input you can also use XML, comma separated values (whatever is
more handy for you), the design, content and input data can be
completely independent ... But you have to be more precise in
specifying your requirements  problems. People on the list are really
friendly, but perhaps you asked too general question.

Mojca
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[NTG-context] updating ConTeXt to latest on openbsd-current

2006-03-06 Thread frantisek holop
hi there,

i am a (somewhat) long time pdflatex user and i am trying to convert to
ConTeXt.  openbsd comes with teTeX 3.0 pre-packaged, that is with a very
old ConTeXt.  the package has some openbsd specific stuff, but minimal,
and only for keeping cnf files between updates and a couple of paths are
different, but that is it.

i was (am) having font problems, so i thought an upgrade would not hurt.
the lovely guides on contextgarden.net got me started, and with minor
changes i have a fresh ConTeXt up and running, but i have some problems
still i am afraid.  i am very new to ConTeXt and to TeX in general,
i was always behind the safe curtains of macros (like memoir, etc).


as i followed the instructions from here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation
my question are related to this page

i will break down my question into more mails, so it's not too long,
and so that people can answer to mails they know the answer to :)

the first one:

the first step to upgrade context is:

--\startquote---
Fix texmf.cnf

Now first you have to fix texmf.cnf as supplied with teTeX:

# vi /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf 

You have to add an engine path to the TEXFORMATS line, so that it reads:

TEXFORMATS = .;$TEXMF/web2c/{$engine,}

--\stopquote

i deliberately skipped this one, and the new context worked without it.
what does this precisely do?

when i first run the new context, a new line in the output immediately
caught my attention:

 TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

 fixing texformat path : .:{!!/home/f/.texmf-config,!!/home/f/.texmf-var,/home/f
/texmf,!!/etc/texmf,!!/var/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/tex
mf-local,!!/usr/local/share/texmf-dist}/web2c/{$engine,}{pdfetex,}

so i thought, ok, here's the path issue.  so i added {$engine,} as intructed,
but it turned out that that this new line comes up anyway.  could anyone 
comment on it?


the next tip is to

--\startquote---

While at it, you probably want to set

shell_escape = t

if it isn't already. 

--\stopquote

in the default openbsd package this line says:

shell_escape = f

what is the difference?  and what is it for anyway?
some external execution of the legends are true? :)

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[NTG-context] updating ConTeXt to latest on openbsd-current Q #2

2006-03-06 Thread frantisek holop
hi there,

my second question, is more like asking for pointers...

where can i read more about fmtutil, and how come that
context does not use it when (i assume) pdftex does?


--\startquote---
Cleanup fmtutil

Optionally, you can remove ConTeXt support from teTeX's configuration,
because ConTeXt does not use fmtutil.

Using

# fmtutil-sys --edit

you can comment out the lines for metafun,cont-en, and mptopdf

And you can use

# cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-var/web2c  rm -f cont-en.* metafun.* 
mptopdf.*

to remove the old (fmtutil-generated) formats. 

--\stopquote

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[NTG-context] updating ConTeXt to latest on openbsd-current Q #3

2006-03-06 Thread frantisek holop
hi there,

this (for the moment) last question is not really about the upgrade but
about context itself.  this is the problem because of which i upgraded
in the first (but not the only) place.

please consider the following minimal example:


%
\starttext

\section{Pogány köszöntő}

\startlines
Nézd! dércsipte fáink megőszült
fején ül most a szél és lengő
harangú tornyok között csak
megkondúlnak a jámbor imák!

Csorgó nyálával békés borjú
lépdel még szekerünk után, de
már nem kószál szárnyas szavakkal
szájunk körül halovány ámen!

Megmosakodtunk! tornyok között,
fákon pihenő szélben és most
megőszült fák közt csókokkal tarkán
pogány szemekkel kitavaszodtunk!

A testünket nézd! együtt fakad a
rüggyel drága hús és napbadobált
csókjaink után boldog torokkal
így, istentelenül fölsikoltunk!

1930. január 11.
\stoplines

\stoptext
%


here's the transcript of context:

%
amaaq texexec --pdf file

 TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

 fixing texformat path : 
.:{!!/home/f/.texmf-config,!!/home/f/.texmf-var,/home/f/texmf,!!/etc/texmf,!!/var/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf-local,!!/usr/local/share/texmf-dist}/web2c/{$engine,}{pdfetex,}
fixing engine variable : pdfetex
executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
 inputfile : hun
output : pdftex
 interface : en
  current mode : none
   TeX run : 1

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.6-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
 (/usr/local/share/texmf-local/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./hun.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2006.02.15 17:41  fmt: 2006.3.4  int: english  mes: english

language: language en is active
protectionstate 0
system  : cont-new loaded
(/usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
color   : palette rollover is available
)
system  : cont-old loaded
(/usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading : Context Old Macros
)
system  : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading : Context File Synonyms
)
system  : cont-sys.rme loaded
(/usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme
(/usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded
kpathsea: Running mktextfm ec-lmr12
mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; 
input ec-lmr12
This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.4)

kpathsea: Running mktexmf ec-lmr12
! I can't find file `ec-lmr12'.
* ...ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-lmr12
  
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
* ...ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-lmr12
  
Transcript written on mfput.log.
grep: ec-lmr12.log: No such file or directory
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input 
ec-lmr12' failed to make ec-lmr12.tfm.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
! Font \*12ptrmtf*=ec-lmr12 not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
to be read again 
   \relax 
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier 
  \let \localrelativefontsiz...

\fontstrategy ...ame #1\csname #2#3#4#5\endcsname 
  \tryingfontfalse \fi 
inserted text ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize 
  \fi \iftryingfont \fontstr...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies 
  \relax \fi \ifskipfontchar...
argument \getvalue [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ \fontstyle }
   \edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle }\if...
...
l.1 
\starttext
? X
No pages of output.
Transcript written on hun.log.

   return code : 256
  run time : 6 seconds

total run time : 6 seconds
%



some gurus will kill me now, because this is (for me) a simple
missfont.log case, but the truth is, that no other macro packages are
missing any fonts at all.  i must also add, that i did a

amaaq sudo updmap --enable Map lm.map


before that, my accented letters were simply ingored out from the
output, and if i changed to a well known font (charter) per
instructions, i got a missing font again.

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Re: [NTG-context] updating ConTeXt to latest on openbsd-current Q #2

2006-03-06 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi there!

frantisek holop wrote:
 my second question, is more like asking for pointers...
 
 where can i read more about fmtutil, and how come that
 context does not use it when (i assume) pdftex does?

The following comes from a thread in december about this same
issue. The full thread is here:

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20051213.100910.f7bb2779.en.html

Posted by Taco Hoekwater (hey, that's me!):
---
Here's what happened. In the really old days,
formats ended with .fmt, like plain.fmt.

When etex and omega came around, they identified themselves by having
e.g. plain.efmt (note the extra e), so that they could coexist
happily.

However, this cluttered the build system quite a bit, so recently it
was decided to drop the extra characters. At that time, it was
understood that there would be an extra subdirectory below texmf/web2c
to differentiate between the different engines (at least, that is what
Hans and I gathered from the discussion). So you would have, e.g.
web2c/pdfetex/cont-en.fmt as well as web2c/omega/cont-en.fmt.

But it turned out that since LaTeX has separate names for the
different formats anyway (Lambda etc.), ConTeXt was the only client
of this new feature, and Thomas Esser decided that it was not worth
the effort to support these extra directories.

However, for ConText it would be very, very unwieldy to have
cont-pdfetex-en.fmt, cont-xetex-en.fmt, cont-aleph-en.fmt etc., each six
or seven times. And because context is always called through texexec,
the latest texexec's implement this engine subdirectory functionality
for you.

Finally, what goes wrong: unless you either delete the teTeX-supplied
context formats or change texmf.cnf, the old formats will be found first
by kpathsea.


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Re: [NTG-context] updating ConTeXt to latest on openbsd-current

2006-03-06 Thread Taco Hoekwater
frantisek holop wrote:
 
 the first step to upgrade context is:
 
 --\startquote---
 Fix texmf.cnf
 --\stopquote
 
 i deliberately skipped this one, and the new context worked without it.
 what does this precisely do?

See the answer to #2, already posted

 but it turned out that that this new line comes up anyway.  could anyone 
 comment on it?

That line from texexec comes from paranoia in texexec, I think it
is displayed always.

 the next tip is to
 
 --\startquote---
 shell_escape = t
 --\stopquote
 
 in the default openbsd package this line says:
 
 shell_escape = f
 
 what is the difference?  and what is it for anyway?
 some external execution of the legends are true? :)

It allows tex to start programs on-the-fly. Most imprtantly metapost,
for the creation of graphics. It works fine without, but with the
'f' setting, usually an extra tex run is needed, loosing you valuable
time.

Cheers, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] updating ConTeXt to latest on openbsd-current Q #3

2006-03-06 Thread Taco Hoekwater
frantisek holop wrote:
 
 please consider the following minimal example:
 

Hi again (example snipped)!

 ! Font \*12ptrmtf*=ec-lmr12 not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.

This is one of the latin modern fonts. ConTeXt depends on the latin
modern package, and will not run without errors if latin modern is
not installed.

Cheers, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] updating ConTeXt to latest on openbsd-current

2006-03-06 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Mar 6, 2006, at 10:17 PM, frantisek holop wrote:

 hi there,

 i am a (somewhat) long time pdflatex user and i am trying to  
 convert to
 ConTeXt.

That's good, welcome to the ConTeXt community. I'm sure you'll like  
it around here...

I'll try and answer some of your questions:


 shell_escape = t

 if it isn't already.

 --\stopquote

 in the default openbsd package this line says:

 shell_escape = f

 what is the difference?  and what is it for anyway?
 some external execution of the legends are true? :)


Among other things, ConTeXt has wonderful integration for an  
implementation of Metapost called Metafun. If you set shell escape to  
t, ConTeXt will be able to compile Metafun code that is included in  
your documents. this is a security issue when you're on a system with  
many users; if you;re running it on your own personal computer, it is  
safe to set this to true.

 kpathsea: Running mktexmf ec-lmr12
 ! I can't find file `ec-lmr12'.
 * ...ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-lmr12

This is the old Latin-Modern bug that is a recurring event on this  
list. Download the file cont-lmt.zip from the pragma website, unzip  
it in your texmf-tree, run texhash, and this should solve your  
problems on this front.

HTH, you'll certainly receive more answers.

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] updating ConTeXt to latest on openbsd-current Q #2

2006-03-06 Thread Willi Egger


frantisek holop wrote:

hi there,

my second question, is more like asking for pointers...

where can i read more about fmtutil, and how come that
context does not use it when (i assume) pdftex does?

  

Fmtutil is used to generate the necessary format files to run tex. - 
Context provides this within texexec. So generating the formats
becomes simply  texexec --make en metafun mptopdf  i.e. a list of 
requested formats.
even shorter this is texexec --make all..  This will however generate 
formats which you will never use. But nowadays, where diskspace is no 
issue :-)

Kind regards

Willi

--\startquote---
Cleanup fmtutil

Optionally, you can remove ConTeXt support from teTeX's configuration,
because ConTeXt does not use fmtutil.

Using

# fmtutil-sys --edit

you can comment out the lines for metafun,cont-en, and mptopdf

And you can use

# cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-var/web2c  rm -f cont-en.* metafun.* 
mptopdf.*

to remove the old (fmtutil-generated) formats. 

--\stopquote

-f
  

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Re: [NTG-context] updating ConTeXt to latest on openbsd-current Q #3

2006-03-06 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 11:04:25PM +0100, Taco Hoekwater said that
 This is one of the latin modern fonts. ConTeXt depends on the latin
 modern package, and will not run without errors if latin modern is
 not installed.


thanks for the all the answers...

this all could be in the wiki thought, would save you/me mining the
archives :)  so i'll shamefully steal and put this info into the
openbsd upgrade page i just started :)


ok, seems like my last problem is about the fonts.  i must say the
wiki gets a bit controversial here:

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation says:

Install a Latin Modern font update

The Latin Modern fonts are still in development, so teTeX has a hard
time catching up. To get a stable system, you have to manually download
the [Latin Modern distribution] from ctan and install the package
according to the[instructions in the FAQ].

The ConTeXt-specific support files are included in Cont-tmf.zip, so it
is just a matter of installing the actual font files. 



http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Cont-lmt.zip says:

This was the Latin Modern release from CTAN, repackaged for an easier
download.

It has disappeared since Context 2006.02.01 



http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=uselmfonts says:

snip
Note that teTeX distributions, from version 3.0, already have the lm
fonts: all you need do is use them. 



according to the wiki, i don't need cont-lmt.zip anymore.

according to the tex faq i already have them.


what now?   i downloaded the lm.tgz package, compared files, and
clearly, teTeX 3.0 files are old-old-old.

so i copied over the old files, run texhash, and lo and behold,
fonts are all right.



ok, the only problem i see at first glance is \{o}
(long hungarian umlaut) is with a wave and not the proper umlaut.

could this be a problem with context's encodings?
i presume the lm fonts contain the right character...
it is certainly not that special :)

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Re: [NTG-context] updating ConTeXt to latest on openbsd-current Q #2

2006-03-06 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 10:57:57PM +0100, Taco Hoekwater said that
 Finally, what goes wrong: unless you either delete the teTeX-supplied
 context formats or change texmf.cnf, the old formats will be found first
 by kpathsea.

excellent explanation.

so is it either or?  is it enough to change texmf.cnf _or_ delete the
old format files?


from the wiki:

-%--
Cleanup fmtutil

Optionally, you can remove ConTeXt support from teTeX's configuration,
because ConTeXt does not use fmtutil. 
-%--

-f
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Re: [NTG-context] metaobj and colors

2006-03-06 Thread Renaud AUBIN

Ok, very sorry for this beginner's question !

It works with :
newEllipse.a(btex $S_1$ etex) fit(false),framecolor(red);
At first, I have tried without the , !!!

Renaud

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