[NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread andrea valle
Dear all,

Consider this minimal example:

\defineframedtext[container][width=local, corner=round, frame=off, 
rightframe=on ]


\starttext
\startcontainer
test
\stopcontainer
\stoptext


Substantially I copied it from cont-eni. It seems that it doesn't work. 
On my system I have no frame at all.
?

Best

-a-

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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode Character Problem

2007-01-09 Thread Johannes Graumann
I think I figured this out: '9633' is not in a unicode block as predefined in
unic-xxx.tex

So this doesn't work ... looks like I have to wait for LuaTeX ...

Joh


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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread luigi scarso
On 1/9/07, andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear all,

 Consider this minimal example:

 \defineframedtext[container][width=local, corner=round, frame=off,
 rightframe=on ]


Yes, I have already noticed that (but I don't consider it a bug; maybe is it ?)
 Substantially I copied it from cont-eni. It seems that it doesn't work.
hmm, cont-eni
I can't find it in my distro.
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[NTG-context] Footnote lost

2007-01-09 Thread Mike Bird
In this example, the first footnote number appears correctly
in the body of the page but the first footnote is never placed
in the footer.  The second footnote is handled correctly.
Therefore the first footnote is not merely deferred but lost.

\starttext
\setupquotation[right={''\footnote{First}}]
\startquotation
Loses footnote.
\stopquotation

\setupquotation[right={''}]
\quotation{OK}\footnote{Second}
\stoptext


--Mike Bird
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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread andrea valle
(Grazie Luigi.)

If it's not a bug in any case it doesn't work as described in the 
manual  cont-eni.pdf, pp. 261-262 (sorry, I wasn't meaning the source 
but the manual).

Best

-a-

On 9 Jan 2007, at 12:39, luigi scarso wrote:

 On 1/9/07, andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear all,

 Consider this minimal example:

 \defineframedtext[container][width=local, corner=round, frame=off,
 rightframe=on ]


 Yes, I have already noticed that (but I don't consider it a bug; maybe 
 is it ?)
 Substantially I copied it from cont-eni. It seems that it doesn't 
 work.
 hmm, cont-eni
 I can't find it in my distro.
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[NTG-context] bib module -- \maybeyear

2007-01-09 Thread Robin.Kirkham
Hi all,

I'm using numerical citations and reference lists, and I have the bib module 
doing almost everything I want, except that the years in the reference list 
have a, b, c ... appended.

On this mailing list, it was suggested that maybeyear=off as an argument to 
\setuppublicationslist should do it, but it does not seem to. The discussion on 
that topic seems unresolved.

I've also tried \def\maybeyear#1{} in a few places, which does not help either.

I'm using ConTeXt  ver: 2007.01.02 13:44 MK II  fmt: 2007.1.8  int: 
english/english. It's my first ConTeXt project. Am I doing something wrong? 
Program below.

Robin


\enableregime[utf]
\setupoutput[pdf]

\usemodule[bib]

\setuppublications[
refcommand=num,
sorttype=bbl,
criterium=all,
numbering=short
]
\setupbibtex[database={../references},sort=author]
\setuppublicationlist[
authoretallimit=100,
artauthoretallimit=100,
maybeyear=off
]

\starttext

\placepublications

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread luigi scarso
On 1/9/07, andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (Grazie Luigi.)

 If it's not a bug in any case it doesn't work as described in the
 manual  cont-eni.pdf, pp. 261-262 (sorry, I wasn't meaning the source
 but the manual).
ah yes, too much involved with modules.pdf 

This works as expected here (cfr pag 261-262 (real page 264-265)):
\setupcolors[state=start]
\setupframedtexts
  [background=screen,
   frame=off,
   rightframe=on,
   framecolor=darkgreen,
   rulethickness=3pt]

\starttext
\startframedtext
WWW
\stopframedtext
\stoptext
In my experience,  corner=round is only full-frame
Hints:
1) metapost
2)pgf
3) pdf-trans

luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote:
 On 1/9/07, andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 (Grazie Luigi.)

 If it's not a bug in any case it doesn't work as described in the
 manual  cont-eni.pdf, pp. 261-262 (sorry, I wasn't meaning the source
 but the manual).
 
 ah yes, too much involved with modules.pdf 
   
 This works as expected here (cfr pag 261-262 (real page 264-265)):
 \setupcolors[state=start]
 \setupframedtexts
   [background=screen,
frame=off,
rightframe=on,
framecolor=darkgreen,
rulethickness=3pt]

 \starttext
 \startframedtext
 WWW
 \stopframedtext
 \stoptext
 In my experience,  corner=round is only full-frame
 Hints:
 1) metapost
 2)pgf
 3) pdf-trans
   

grep for

% a lot of weird corners

in core-rul ... 

Hans 

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[NTG-context] placing a tikz/pgf figure

2007-01-09 Thread M.J. Kallen
Hi all,

I'm trying to determine how to best insert a figure/graph created using the 
tikz/pgf module (I'm using v1.10). The attached sample file compares the result 
of just using \placefigure and \placefigure with \startcombination[1*1]. In the 
first case, the result is not centered (which should be default in ConTeXt, if 
I'm correct) but flushed left. Only if I place the figure inside a 
\startcombination by using \input, do I get the desired result. If I use 
\externalfigure inside the \startcombination, I again get an incorrect result. 

In theory, the first version should work but some special settings (using e.g. 
\useexternalfigure) may be required. I do not know why the second version does 
work. Does anyone have an idea?

Thanks,

Maarten-Jan


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\setupfloat[figure][location=middle,frame=on]

\starttext

\startbuffer[tikz]
\starttikzpicture
\draw[red,thick] (0,0) -- (1,1)
	 {[rounded corners] -- (2,0) -- (3,1)}
	  -- (3,0) -- (2,1);
\stoptikzpicture
\stopbuffer

\placefigure
	[here]
	[fig:test1]
	{The figure is flushed left, whereas it should be centered.}
	{\externalfigure[tikz.tmp]}

\placefigure
	[here]
	[fig:test2]
	{Using \type{\startcombination[1*1]} together with \type{\input}, the result looks as expected.}
	{\startcombination[1*1]
		{\input test-pgf-tikz.tmp } {}
	\stopcombination
	}

\placefigure
	[here]
	[fig:test3]
	{Using \type{\startcombination[1*1]} together with \type{\externalfigure}, the result looks again as in the first figure.}
	{\startcombination[1*1]
		{\externalfigure[tikz.tmp]} {}
	\stopcombination
	}


\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] placing a tikz/pgf figure

2007-01-09 Thread Willi Egger
Indeed I also get the results as you describe them. When looking at the 
file *.tmp then you see, that the figure is generated on the fly. When 
external figure is issued, then the textwidth is the base and therefore 
the figure ends up leftaligned. -- In such cases I prefer to have the 
figures prepared in a separate pdf-file by means of
\startTEXpage -- \stopTEXpage. Afterwards I include the TEXpages 
with \externalfigure referencing the page in the file obtained. -- In my 
experience this makes the runs faster.

Kind regards

Willi

M.J. Kallen wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm trying to determine how to best insert a figure/graph created using the 
 tikz/pgf module (I'm using v1.10). The attached sample file compares the 
 result of just using \placefigure and \placefigure with 
 \startcombination[1*1]. In the first case, the result is not centered (which 
 should be default in ConTeXt, if I'm correct) but flushed left. Only if I 
 place the figure inside a \startcombination by using \input, do I get the 
 desired result. If I use \externalfigure inside the \startcombination, I 
 again get an incorrect result. 

 In theory, the first version should work but some special settings (using 
 e.g. \useexternalfigure) may be required. I do not know why the second 
 version does work. Does anyone have an idea?

 Thanks,

 Maarten-Jan


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 \usemodule[tikz]
 \setupfloat[figure][location=middle,frame=on]

 \starttext

 \startbuffer[tikz]
 \starttikzpicture
 \draw[red,thick] (0,0) -- (1,1)
{[rounded corners] -- (2,0) -- (3,1)}
 -- (3,0) -- (2,1);
 \stoptikzpicture
 \stopbuffer

 \placefigure
   [here]
   [fig:test1]
   {The figure is flushed left, whereas it should be centered.}
   {\externalfigure[tikz.tmp]}

 \placefigure
   [here]
   [fig:test2]
   {Using \type{\startcombination[1*1]} together with \type{\input}, the 
 result looks as expected.}
   {\startcombination[1*1]
   {\input test-pgf-tikz.tmp } {}
   \stopcombination
   }

 \placefigure
   [here]
   [fig:test3]
   {Using \type{\startcombination[1*1]} together with 
 \type{\externalfigure}, the result looks again as in the first figure.}
   {\startcombination[1*1]
   {\externalfigure[tikz.tmp]} {}
   \stopcombination
   }


 \stoptext
   
 

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Re: [NTG-context] placing a tikz/pgf figure

2007-01-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Willi Egger wrote:
 Indeed I also get the results as you describe them. When looking at the 
 file *.tmp then you see, that the figure is generated on the fly. When 
 external figure is issued, then the textwidth is the base and therefore 
 the figure ends up leftaligned. -- In such cases I prefer to have the 
 figures prepared in a separate pdf-file by means of
 \startTEXpage -- \stopTEXpage. Afterwards I include the TEXpages 
 with \externalfigure referencing the page in the file obtained. -- In my 
 experience this makes the runs faster.
   
willy, what do i need to install to get this example running? 

Hans 


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Re: [NTG-context] [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: HZ and DVI]]

2007-01-09 Thread Hartmut Henkel
Hi Hans,

the last e-mail in this thread that you have forwarded to the ConTeXt
list might be a little misleading, as the problem during later
investigations appeared to be not related to pdftex (pdftex-1.40.1 works
ok, no bug). I hope that Peter Münster, who was always in the Cc:, now
knows what to do if he still wants to use HZ in DVI files. In short, he
would need to generate all required expanded .tfm files (if not in
autoexpand mode) and .pk fonts by hand with proper expanded naming,
using e. g. mktextfm and gsftopk or mktexpk tools. But it's nowadays
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Re: [NTG-context] HZ and DVI

2007-01-09 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Hans Hagen wrote:

  now I see, that my problem with HZ is only in DVI mode, PDFs are ok.

 hz in dvi probably forces you to create the font instances yourself as
 this happens automatically in pdf mode; a good time to kiss dvi goodbey 

The only reason why I still keep asking for dvi, is the good xdvi viewer.
If there is something similar for pdf, then yes: you can drop dvi support!
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Re: [NTG-context] [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: HZ and DVI]]

2007-01-09 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Hartmut Henkel wrote:

 ok, no bug). I hope that Peter Münster, who was always in the Cc:, now
 knows what to do if he still wants to use HZ in DVI files. In short, he
 would need to generate all required expanded .tfm files (if not in
 autoexpand mode) and .pk fonts by hand with proper expanded naming,
 using e. g. mktextfm and gsftopk or mktexpk tools. But it's nowadays
 much much easier to do HZ in PDF mode.

Indeed, I'll go the easy way: I'll try to forget all about dvi and go pdf.
Thank you for all your investigations!
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Re: [NTG-context] HZ and DVI

2007-01-09 Thread Hans Hagen
� wrote:
 On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Hans Hagen wrote:

   
 now I see, that my problem with HZ is only in DVI mode, PDFs are ok.
   
   
 hz in dvi probably forces you to create the font instances yourself as
 this happens automatically in pdf mode; a good time to kiss dvi goodbey 
 

 The only reason why I still keep asking for dvi, is the good xdvi viewer.
 If there is something similar for pdf, then yes: you can drop dvi 
 support!Cheers, Peter


   
acrobat is rather convenient and i use it all day; i haven't touched a 
dvi viewer this milenium

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] placing a tikz/pgf figure

2007-01-09 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, M.J. Kallen wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to determine how to best insert a figure/graph created 
 using the tikz/pgf module (I'm using v1.10). The attached sample 
 file compares the result of just using \placefigure and \placefigure 
 with \startcombination[1*1]. In the first case, the result is not 
 centered (which should be default in ConTeXt, if I'm correct) but 
 flushed left. Only if I place the figure inside a \startcombination 
 by using \input, do I get the desired result. If I use 
 \externalfigure inside the \startcombination, I again get an 
 incorrect result.

This is because (I think) that tikzpicture does not return a box.

 In theory, the first version should work but some special settings 
 (using e.g. \useexternalfigure) may be required. I do not know why 
 the second version does work. Does anyone have an idea?

Replace

{\externalfigure[tikz.tmp]}

with

{\hbox{\input \jobname-tikz.tmp\relax}}

I have noticed this \placefigure and I do not know if it is a bug or a 
feature. \placefigure expects you to give a box as a figure. Compare 
the output of

\placefigure
   [here]
   {Left Fulushed}
   {This is a test}

and

\placefigure
   [here]
   {centered}
   {\hbox{This is a test}}


Hans, will adding a \hbox explicitly to \placefigure break anything?


On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Hans Hagen wrote:

 willy, what do i need to install to get this example running?

You will need to install tikz from 
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgf/). The directory is not TDS 
complaint, so you may need to correct that before installing the tree.

And of course, ignore Till Tantau's comments about ConTeXt on page 
67-68 of the manual. He was working with stone age ConTeXt and still 
manged to get the whole thing working :-)

And whenever you decide to overhaul the input mechanism for metapost, 
tikz has some nice ideas.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
 grep for
 
 % a lot of weird corners
 
 in core-rul ... 

Hallo!

I played a little with this and found some artefacts in the arc with
rulethickness=2pt or 4pt (3pt is ok).

\framed[corner=14,
frame=on,
framecolor=darkred,
rulethickness=2pt]{\tttf TEST MORE~}

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] HZ and DVI

2007-01-09 Thread Martin Schröder
2007/1/9, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 acrobat is rather convenient and i use it all day; i haven't touched a
 dvi viewer this milenium

Only when texdoc presents me with a dvi. :-)
I tend to use kpdf more than AR now; it's faster and watches files.

Best
   Martin
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Re: [NTG-context] placing a tikz/pgf figure

2007-01-09 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 1/9/07, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Willi Egger wrote:
  Indeed I also get the results as you describe them. When looking at the
  file *.tmp then you see, that the figure is generated on the fly. When
  external figure is issued, then the textwidth is the base and therefore
  the figure ends up leftaligned. -- In such cases I prefer to have the
  figures prepared in a separate pdf-file by means of
  \startTEXpage -- \stopTEXpage. Afterwards I include the TEXpages
  with \externalfigure referencing the page in the file obtained. -- In my
  experience this makes the runs faster.
 
 willy, what do i need to install to get this example running?

I guess that copying these files (at least generic and context) into
texmf tree should be enough:
ftp://cam.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pgf

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] HZ and DVI

2007-01-09 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
 I tend to use kpdf more than AR now; it's faster and watches files.

  That's probably the biggest pain with most PDF viewers, not watching
files; at any rate it's what I miss the most now I'm using XeTeX as my
main TeX engine. What other viewers do you know watch files?
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Re: [NTG-context] placing a tikz/pgf figure

2007-01-09 Thread Mojca Miklavec
(abstract of Maarten-Jan's sample)

 \usemodule[tikz]

 \starttext

 \startbuffer[tikz]
 \starttikzpicture
 \draw[red,thick] (0,0) -- (1,1)
{[rounded corners] -- (2,0) -- (3,1)}
 -- (3,0) -- (2,1);
 \stoptikzpicture
 \stopbuffer

 \placefigure
   {The figure is flushed left, whereas it should be centered.}
   {\externalfigure[tikz.tmp]}

 \stoptext

Hello,

I've been playing a bit with the most simple tikz examples so far, but
after I saw this example I got an impression that ConTeXt users might
also want to see syntax like

\starttikzpicture[optional options]{name}
 ...
\stoptikzpicture

\usetikzpicture{name}

in addition to the existing one, which would then be equivalent to
syntax of including metapost graphics. There are dozens of other
\start[whatever] commands defined in the module, but I have no idea
what all of them do. Perhaps \startpgfpicture might be another command
worth considering, but I have no idea about the rest.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] placing a tikz/pgf figure

2007-01-09 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 (abstract of Maarten-Jan's sample)
 
  \usemodule[tikz]
 
  \starttext
 
  \startbuffer[tikz]
  \starttikzpicture
  \draw[red,thick] (0,0) -- (1,1)
 {[rounded corners] -- (2,0) -- (3,1)}
  -- (3,0) -- (2,1);
  \stoptikzpicture
  \stopbuffer
 
  \placefigure
{The figure is flushed left, whereas it should be centered.}
{\externalfigure[tikz.tmp]}
 
  \stoptext
 
 Hello,
 
 I've been playing a bit with the most simple tikz examples so far, but
 after I saw this example I got an impression that ConTeXt users might
 also want to see syntax like
 
 \starttikzpicture[optional options]{name}
  ...
 \stoptikzpicture
 
 \usetikzpicture{name}
 
 in addition to the existing one, which would then be equivalent to
 syntax of including metapost graphics. There are dozens of other
 \start[whatever] commands defined in the module, but I have no idea
 what all of them do. Perhaps \startpgfpicture might be another command
 worth considering, but I have no idea about the rest.

Maybe commands along the line of metapost (so that everything is 
easier to remeber)

\startreusablePGFgraphic
\startusablePGFgraphic
\startPGFcode
\startstaticPGFfigure ;)

and

\usePGFgraphic, \reusePGFgraphic, etc.

For proper integration, there should also be a mechanism to pass 
\overlayheight and \overlaywidth to the pgfpicture, so that the 
pgfpicture can use it.

I am just curious, does everyone use pgf for standalone graphic or has 
someone also tried to use it with \framed[background=...], which works 
for the most simple cases.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] HZ and DVI

2007-01-09 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
Peter M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 The only reason why I still keep asking for dvi, is the good xdvi
 viewer.

I agree. xdvi is what prompted me into trying dvi mode again (and
investigating dvipos), because of its excellent anti-aliasing.  The
only pdf viewer whose rendering quality might be comparable is the
'apparition' viewer, part of the fitz http://ccxvii.net/apparition/.
Not ready for prime time yet, but it has lots of potential.

 If there is something similar for pdf, then yes: you can drop dvi
 support!

Even then, you would lose source specials.  I haven't figured out a
way to do it, despite cracking open (via xpdf) the PDF reference
manual.  I thought about doing with annotations, having pdftex/ConTeXt
insert the pdf literals.  However, the annotation dictionary doesn't
have a cross-platform way of calling a script.  It has enough slots to
do it for Windows, but nowhere else.  At least, that was what I
gathered, but maybe a longer look or a shorter look by PDF experts
might give a more hopeful conclusion.

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Re: [NTG-context] HZ and DVI

2007-01-09 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:

 Peter M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  If there is something similar for pdf, then yes: you can drop dvi
  support!
 
 Even then, you would lose source specials.  I haven't figured out a
 way to do it, despite cracking open (via xpdf) the PDF reference
 manual.  I thought about doing with annotations, having pdftex/ConTeXt
 insert the pdf literals.  However, the annotation dictionary doesn't
 have a cross-platform way of calling a script.  It has enough slots to
 do it for Windows, but nowhere else.  At least, that was what I
 gathered, but maybe a longer look or a shorter look by PDF experts
 might give a more hopeful conclusion.

There is pdfsync but that is Mac only (AFAIU). In latex, I had 
occasionally used vpe 
(http://tug.ctan.org/cgi-bin/ctanPackageInformation.py?id=vpe). I 
tried it on Windows (MikTeX) and it worked ok, but was not too useful. 
The documentation claims that it also works on Unix.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] rightframe=on

2007-01-09 Thread luigi scarso
Inside last core-rule.tex
(it doesn't appears in core-modu.pdf)
% \startTEXpage
% \dontleavehmode\framed
% [corner=0,frame=on,framecolor=green,
%  background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {1} {4}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green,
%  background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {5} {8}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green,
%  background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {1} {4}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {5} {8}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse {9}{12}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse{13}{16}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse{17}{20}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse{21}{24}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \vskip1em
% \dontleavehmode\dostepwiserecurse{25}{28}{1}{\framed
% [corner=\recurselevel,frame=on,framecolor=green]{\tttf TEST
\twodigits\recurselevel}%
% \quad}
% \stopTEXpage

luigi
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