[NTG-context] Unable to generate fonts

2009-04-19 Thread Patrick Walton

Hi,

I've been running into trouble in both the alpha and beta versions of 
Mark IV when trying to work with the fonts script:


$ mtxrun --script fonts --list
MTXrun | font table: accessing the data table failed
MTXrun | font table: accessing the data table failed
...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-syn.lua:333: attempt to 
index field 'data' (a nil value)


Also, using the "reload" option does nothing (it prints a blank line and 
immediately exits). Without the fonts script I can't install or use any 
custom fonts.


It's a fresh installation. I tried deleting the ConTeXt installation and 
reinstalling both the alpha and beta versions with the first-setup.sh 
script.


Thanks in advance for any help.

Patrick

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX 64bit

2009-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 23:09, Mohamed Bana wrote:

One more question, how do I only create the formats for British English
only?  No Dutch, American English etc..   I'm going to argue on the list
that the en_GB should be the default ;), but I'll save that for another day.


There is only one English format that you can generate with "texexec
--make en". If you're speaking about how to generate only that one
with first-setup.sh, then you should be, at least in theory, able to
generate only the chosen formats with --formats switch or my modifying
the lua file that gets generated, but I imagine that it doesn't work
or at least I have never tested it so far.


do you know if first-setup.sh only downloads the files /only if/ they're are
changes?  i mean could a simple checksum do the job?


Yes, it only downloads the modified files, but it doesn't use
checksums since using them is much slower. You could add an additional
-c switch, but you will not notice any difference (apart from a few
files that Hans recreates every time when he uploads a new zip, but
that's neglectable). Rsync checks for date+size. Only if these two are
different it fetches the file. You could add checksum checking, but I
guess that you don't gain anything.

The only critical component where I really do need to change this are
luatex and metapost source, but this only concerns binary builders,
not users.


there has been a time that this was possible, but inpractice it's not 
that handy ... specifying the language should be part of the document 
preamble; in that time we had no gyre and as language is related to 
patterns + font encodings in mkii it was even more tricky


one thing that you can do is add \mainlanguage[gb] to cont-sys.tex 
default to brittish english so that on your system it always starts that 
way; the overhead is nil


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen

Wei-Wei Guo wrote:

Hans Hagen 写道:

Wei-Wei Guo wrote:
And I have a further question. Is it possible to put the footnote of 
table head
under the table instead of at the bottom of the page? I think it 
would be more

reasonable of putting the footnote under the table.


in principle yes, but then i need to add something to the float 
mechanism so it's not a quick hack (and it will not happen before i 
have completely spit the code in mkii/mkiv)




Thanks!

BTW, when will you finish the splitting?


will take a while (happens currently) .. as we need to remain backward 
compatible dev of mkiv costs much more time than starting from scratch


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[NTG-context] \section and luatex

2009-04-19 Thread Mohamed Bana

\section Current Activities

displays

1 C
 urrent Activities


could you please allow \section Other to use the entire word not just 
the first Letter. 



And how do I tell if LuaTeX is 64bit?

$ luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.39.0-2009041607 luatex.web v2298

$ context --version
MTXrun | main context file: 
/home/mbana/context.distro/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex

MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.18 13:47


Many thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] \section and luatex

2009-04-19 Thread Alex Lubberts
On zo, 2009-04-19 at 11:36 +0100, Mohamed Bana wrote:
> \section Current Activities
> 
> displays
> 
> 1 C
>   urrent Activities
> 
> 
> could you please allow \section Other to use the entire word not just 
> the first Letter. 

\section is like any other command. All commands take the first
character as parameter. If you want to have a longer parameter you have
to put {}'s around it, like:

\section{Current Activities}

Regards,
Alex


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Re: [NTG-context] \section and luatex

2009-04-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 19.04.2009 um 12:53 schrieb Alex Lubberts:


\section is like any other command. All commands take the first
character as parameter.


Not in MkII, it was also possible to use the end of the paragraph as  
delimiter.


Wolfgang


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[NTG-context] Footnotes number can not be reset by "way=bychapter"

2009-04-19 Thread Yanrui Li
Hi,

"\setupfootnotes[way=bychapter]" can not work. This is minimal example:


\setupfootnotes[way=bychapter]

\starttext
\chapter{The Bare Basics}

In this\footnote{CAGD} first chapter, we cover some basic
geometry\footnote{CAGD}.

\chapter{Lines and Planes}

Next, we cover\footnote{CAGD} the basics of lines and planes\footnote{CAGD}.
\stoptext


However, I can get expected result with
"\setupnumber[footnote][way=bychapter,start=0]".
If I set "start=1", footnotes number will begin with "2" but not "1".

What's wrong with it?

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Best wishes,
Li Yanrui

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* ConTeXt Minimals Beta (2009.04.18 13:47)
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[NTG-context] Producing dvi

2009-04-19 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear All,

is it possible to produce dvi in mkiv?
What is the command line?
Are there limitations (like no opentype, no unicode math)?

DVI has to be fit for dvips use.

The reason for my question - Asymptote vector drawing tool
sets labels by processing PS output of LaTeX and relies on the PS
being made by dvips.

  Sincerely, Michail

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Re: [NTG-context] Producing dvi

2009-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen

Michail Vidiassov wrote:

Dear All,

is it possible to produce dvi in mkiv?
What is the command line?
Are there limitations (like no opentype, no unicode math)?

DVI has to be fit for dvips use.

The reason for my question - Asymptote vector drawing tool
sets labels by processing PS output of LaTeX and relies on the PS
being made by dvips.


you can produce dvi when you force the pdfoutput mode but you will 
probably get errors reported


best convert that ps to pdf than and include the pdf

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] \section and luatex

2009-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Am 19.04.2009 um 12:53 schrieb Alex Lubberts:


\section is like any other command. All commands take the first
character as parameter.


Not in MkII, it was also possible to use the end of the paragraph as 
delimiter.


indeed, and i dropped it in mkiv, where we have:

\chapter [ref] {title}
\chapter {title}

and, when ownnumbers are used:

\chapter [ref] {nr} {title}
\chapter   {nr} {title}

and, when structure is wanted (at least that is the idea):

\startchapter [settings] [userdata]

where the first argument sets the title, reference, bookmark, etc and 
the second is up to the user who then can request that info; userdata is 
carried around also in lists (an example of userdata can be an image 
name that is used in typesetting the title as well has to show up in the 
toc; examples of usage will show up in due time)


the mkiv mechanism is also more clever in the sense that it deals with 
roundtrip xml and such



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Re: [NTG-context] Producing dvi

2009-04-19 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Hans,

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:


is it possible to produce dvi in mkiv?
DVI has to be fit for dvips use.

The reason for my question - Asymptote vector drawing tool
sets labels by processing PS output of LaTeX and relies on the PS
being made by dvips.


you can produce dvi when you force the pdfoutput mode but you will probably 
get errors reported


best convert that ps to pdf than and include the pdf


No, no, no!
I have been misunderstood!

The problem is not how to include Asymptote output into ConTeXt.
If it is 2D - then it is just normal PDF, that can be included as usual.
If it is 3D - I have the code, modeled after movie inclusion (thanks Hans,
you fixed it when I have mentioned that it was broken in mkiv).

What I am talking about now is how to typeset labels within Asymptote by 
ConTeXt.
Asymptote takes label text, wraps it into a minimal document and feeds to 
a TeX engine, gets DVI, processes it with dvips, redefines some PS 
commands (here it relies on the dvips specifics) so that the information
on the resulting path is being printed and runs the PS file through 
ghostscript. Thus Asymptote gets the information of the curves the label
consists of. So if it is possible to feed ConTeXt output to dvips, than 
it'll be easy to adopt Asymptote to use ConTeXt.


If mkiv does not produce dvi (now? never will? not intended to?),
what about mkii?

   Sincerely, Michail

PS. The black side of mirgation from another system - you are both a 
novice and need to setup/modify your new tool in unevident ways to

translate your existing work into new terms...
You barely drive but need to fit that trusty Gatling on the car's roof :(
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Re: [NTG-context] Font table

2009-04-19 Thread Eythan Weg

Hans Hagen 
Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:21:37 +0200

   Eythan Weg wrote:
   >
   > Hi,
   >
   > I tried this 
   >
   >   mtxrun --verbose --reload --script fonts
   >
   > but it fails with:
   >
   >   MTXrun | using script: 
/usr/local/share/texmf/scripts/context/lua/mtx-fonts.lua
   >
   >   cannot open : No such file or directory
   >
   > I think that this line in mtx-fonts.lua is the culprit:
   >  dofile(resolvers.find_file("font-syn.lua"))
   >
   > although this file:
   > font-syn.lua
   >
   > exists.
   >
   > Any hints
   
   it should just work ok
   
   did you run luatools --generate to make a file database?

Yes.  And I find no errors in doing so.  I have
no problems using context with the standard fonts
defined otf-type.tex.  

Note that 

   luatools font-syn.lua  

shows nothing.

Eythan 

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Re: [NTG-context] Producing dvi

2009-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen

Michail Vidiassov wrote:


If mkiv does not produce dvi (now? never will? not intended to?),
what about mkii?

   Sincerely, Michail


sure, mkii can produce dvi for several drivers

\setupoutput[dvips]

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Re: [NTG-context] Producing dvi

2009-04-19 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Hans,

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:


If mkiv does not produce dvi (now? never will? not intended to?),
what about mkii?


sure, mkii can produce dvi for several drivers


And what about the first part of the question?
The (negative?) answer is implied in your other post,
but what is the official position (if any)?

   Sincerely, Michail
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Re: [NTG-context] Producing dvi

2009-04-19 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 07:39:58 -0600, Michail Vidiassov   
wrote:



If mkiv does not produce dvi (now? never will? not intended to?),
what about mkii?


sure, mkii can produce dvi for several drivers


And what about the first part of the question?


mkiv does not now, probably never will, and is not intended, to support  
dvi ;-)


dvi is considered obsolete. Maybe newer technologies like xps -- which  
claims better integration with opentype etc -- will be supported sometime  
down the road... no time soon.


Best wishes
Idris

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Re: [NTG-context] Font table

2009-04-19 Thread Wei-Wei Guo

Eythan Weg 写道:

Hans Hagen 
Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:21:37 +0200

   Eythan Weg wrote:
   >
   > Hi,
   >
   > I tried this 
   >

   >   mtxrun --verbose --reload --script fonts
   >
   > but it fails with:
   >
   >   MTXrun | using script: 
/usr/local/share/texmf/scripts/context/lua/mtx-fonts.lua
   >
   >   cannot open : No such file or directory
   >
   > I think that this line in mtx-fonts.lua is the culprit:
   >  dofile(resolvers.find_file("font-syn.lua"))
   >
   > although this file:
   > font-syn.lua
   >
   > exists.
   >
   > Any hints
   
   it should just work ok
   
   did you run luatools --generate to make a file database?


Yes.  And I find no errors in doing so.  I have
no problems using context with the standard fonts
defined otf-type.tex.  

Note that 

   luatools font-syn.lua  


shows nothing.

Eythan 



The same with Eythan here.

Wei-Wei
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Re: [NTG-context] Font table

2009-04-19 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Sun, 19 Apr 2009 09:17:06 -0400 schrieb Eythan Weg:

>> I tried this 
>>
>>   mtxrun --verbose --reload --script fonts
>>
>> but it fails with:
>>
>>   MTXrun | using script: 
> /usr/local/share/texmf/scripts/context/lua/mtx-fonts.lua
>>
>>   cannot open : No such file or directory

>did you run luatools --generate to make a file database?
> 
> Yes.  And I find no errors in doing so.  I have
> no problems using context with the standard fonts
> defined otf-type.tex.  
> 
> Note that 
> 
>luatools font-syn.lua  
> 
> shows nothing.

I had this problem too. In my case it was an error in my texmf.cnf.
What does kpsewhich --show-path=tex return? And where exactly is
font-syn.lua? 

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Re: [NTG-context] Producing dvi

2009-04-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 15:39, Michail Vidiassov wrote:
> Dear Hans,
>
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>>> If mkiv does not produce dvi (now? never will? not intended to?),
>>> what about mkii?
>>
>> sure, mkii can produce dvi for several drivers
>
> And what about the first part of the question?
> The (negative?) answer is implied in your other post,
> but what is the official position (if any)?

The problem is not writing DVI file per se, but conversion from DVI to
some reasonable format (both ps and pdf are problematic). As soon as
you want to use OpenType fonts and their features, dvips will not be
able to convert the DVI to valid PS any more unless someone writes
extension for it (which is very unlikely to happen).

If you insist in DVI and OpenType fonts, you could just as well take a
look at ConTeXt+XeTeX that is able to generate xdv files (extended
dvi), but I can guarantee you problems. dvips is not able to handle
XDV files.

If Asymptote is not able to handle PDF files, maybe Asymptote itself
would need extensions. (When I last tried to use Asymptote I gave up
since I was not able to figure out how to install it and started using
other tools.)

But as far as I know, if the only critical step is conversion of font
outlines into curves, gs is able to read PDF files as well. I see no
reason why one would require PS unless one uses very basic techniques
for document manipulation (it's a bit easier to parse and work with PS
than it is to work with PDF, but when it's done inside a bigger
project it probably pays off to support both; I guess that the
overhead should not be that big).

If you would like asymptote to handle ConTeXt labels you should start
with mkii. But honestly: I don't really see when LaTeX for typesetting
labels would not suffice. ConTeXt is extremely good at page
formatting, but when it comes to typeset "$A$" for point labels, I
would not mind using LaTeX (If it's only about OpenType you cannot do
anything unless Asymptote gets extended, but even then you could use
XeTeX.)

There definitely are few exceptions and there's definitely an
extremely good feeling if you're aware that the tool uses ConTeXt in
the background ... but that's about all about it.

But the answer to your question about mkiv and dvi remains: no, it
won't be supported, unless someone provides sufficient funding or
writes amazing/extremely useful tools that could cope with XDV format
and do something useful with it. Feel free to search dev-luatex
archives for lenghty discussions about the issue.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] \section and luatex

2009-04-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Mohamed Bana wrote:


\section Current Activities

displays

1 C
urrent Activities


could you please allow \section Other to use the entire word not just the 
first Letter. 


And how do I tell if LuaTeX is 64bit?

$ luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.39.0-2009041607 luatex.web v2298

$ context --version
MTXrun | main context file: 
/home/mbana/context.distro/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex

MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.18 13:47


Add this somewhere (old code, not tested with latest beta)

\def\dodohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]%
  {\dowithpargument{\dododohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]}}

\def\dododohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]#3%
  {\setfalse\currentstructureown
   \dohandlestructurehead{#1}{\c!reference=#2,\c!title={#3}}{}} % name ref nr 
title --


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Font table

2009-04-19 Thread Eythan Weg

Ulrike Fischer 
Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:57:05 +0200

   Am Sun, 19 Apr 2009 09:17:06 -0400 schrieb Eythan Weg:
   
   >> I tried this 
   >>
   >>   mtxrun --verbose --reload --script fonts
   >>
   >> but it fails with:
   >>
   >>   MTXrun | using script: 
/usr/local/share/texmf/scripts/context/lua/mtx-fonts.lua
   >>
   >>   cannot open : No such file or directory
   
   >did you run luatools --generate to make a file database?
   > 
   > Yes.  And I find no errors in doing so.  I have
   > no problems using context with the standard fonts
   > defined otf-type.tex.  
   > 
   > Note that 
   > 
   >luatools font-syn.lua  
   > 
   > shows nothing.
   
   I had this problem too. In my case it was an error in my texmf.cnf.
   What does kpsewhich --show-path=tex return? And where exactly is
   font-syn.lua? 
   
   -- 
   Ulrike Fischer 

The file is in the base directory of context.  In
fact luatools cannot find any *.lua that I tried
in the base directory.  Other files are ok.

Eythan 

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Re: [NTG-context] Producing dvi

2009-04-19 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Mojca,

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


If Asymptote is not able to handle PDF files, maybe Asymptote itself
would need extensions. (When I last tried to use Asymptote I gave up
since I was not able to figure out how to install it and started using
other tools.)


This (installation problems) is part of the question why typesetting in 
Asymptote with ConTeXt is desirable - no need to maintain separate LaTeX 
installation, avoiding mixup with older version of ConTeXt that comes with 
it, etc.


And at this moment Asymptote is (almost) the only tool that makes 3D PDF
directly (without  Windows-only converter like Acrobat), is 
Metapost-like and not some CAD monster or VRML fossil.



If you would like asymptote to handle ConTeXt labels you should start
with mkii. But honestly: I don't really see when LaTeX for typesetting
labels would not suffice. ConTeXt is extremely good at page
formatting, but when it comes to typeset "$A$" for point labels, I
would not mind using LaTeX (If it's only about OpenType you cannot do
anything unless Asymptote gets extended, but even then you could use
XeTeX.)


Apart from maintenance problems with the zoo of tools, Asymptote aspires
for high quality of labels (and has invested considerable effort to 
preserve it in 3D mode), that implies that labels are to be in the

same font as the main text and/or follow some predetermined style.
That requirement is not easy to follow consistently if different tools are 
used to typeset body of the article and labels on pics.

http://tug.org/pracjourn/2005-1/levine/levine.pdf


But as far as I know, if the only critical step is conversion of font
outlines into curves, gs is able to read PDF files as well. I see no
reason why one would require PS unless one uses very basic techniques
for document manipulation (it's a bit easier to parse and work with PS
than it is to work with PDF, but when it's done inside a bigger
project it probably pays off to support both; I guess that the
overhead should not be that big).


As a side note - PS is a programming language very well suited for just 
this kind of problems. ;)


 Sincerely, Michail
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[NTG-context] Appendix receives number instead of letter

2009-04-19 Thread Alex Lubberts
Hi,

Previously, \startappendices switched the numbering to letters, but with
the latest beta appendices receive a number. Numbering does restart from
1, however.

Example:
\starttext

\startfrontmatter
\completecontent
\stopfrontmatter

\startbodymatter
\chapter{Normal chapter}
This chapter receives a number.
\stopbodymatter

\startappendices
\chapter{Appendix}
This chapter should receive a letter A, but gets number 1
\stopappendices

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Font table

2009-04-19 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:00:54 -0400 schrieb Eythan Weg:

>   I had this problem too. In my case it was an error in my texmf.cnf.
>What does kpsewhich --show-path=tex return? And where exactly is
>font-syn.lua? 

> The file is in the base directory of context.  In
> fact luatools cannot find any *.lua that I tried
> in the base directory.  Other files are ok.

What does 
 kpsewhich --show-path=tex 
return?

-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] Font table

2009-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen

Eythan Weg wrote:

Ulrike Fischer 
Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:57:05 +0200

   Am Sun, 19 Apr 2009 09:17:06 -0400 schrieb Eythan Weg:
   
   >> I tried this 
   >>

   >>   mtxrun --verbose --reload --script fonts
   >>
   >> but it fails with:
   >>
   >>   MTXrun | using script: 
/usr/local/share/texmf/scripts/context/lua/mtx-fonts.lua
   >>
   >>   cannot open : No such file or directory
   
   >did you run luatools --generate to make a file database?
   > 
   > Yes.  And I find no errors in doing so.  I have

   > no problems using context with the standard fonts
   > defined otf-type.tex.  
   > 
   > Note that 
   > 
   >luatools font-syn.lua  
   > 
   > shows nothing.
   
   I had this problem too. In my case it was an error in my texmf.cnf.

   What does kpsewhich --show-path=tex return? And where exactly is
   font-syn.lua? 
   
   -- 
   Ulrike Fischer 


The file is in the base directory of context.  In
fact luatools cannot find any *.lua that I tried
in the base directory.  Other files are ok.


luatools --show-path tex

luatools --show-path lua


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[NTG-context] Files for verbatim output of Python source, zc.buildout and Apache config files

2009-04-19 Thread Drazen Baic
Hello,

I'm using MKIV and needed syntax highlighting for a few source and config files.
I read on the Wiki and on this list that it should be pretty easy to do this in
Lua and although I never wrote anything in Lua I just tried it.

Maybe the result will be of use for somebody so I tried to post them to this
list a few days ago but the mail never showed up. Maybe because of the
attachment size.

I read on the Wiki that the best place for putting custom formatter files would
be the context distribution or http://modules.contextgarden.net but as I'm
pretty sure that some stuff is missing and I'm sure there are some bugs
included I tried to post them here.

Would it be OK to put the files in a section on the Wiki to start something like
a repository for verb-*.lua files where it would be easy to extend and correct
them?

The verb-*.lua files I created are for syntax highlighting of Python source
code, Apache http.conf and zc.buildout config files. For the zc.buildout files
I used a simple solution and just defined the keywords that appear in a
standard Plone buildout.cfg file as I didn't need more. I hope to finish two
additional verbatim files for XML and Shell scripts in the next days.

As I don't have any experience in writing Lua code I chose to use the
tex/context/base/verb-*.lua and the verb-cpp.lua files posted by Shen Chen in
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20081002.173802.460c46fe.en.html) for
a start. Additionally I used the vim syntax files and the official Apache
documentation.

Here is an overview of what is covered:

The verb-apa.lua file distinguishes between the following five states:
- declarations
- strings
- sections (like  and )
- comments
- options

The verb-py.lua file distinguishes between the following five states:
- all statements, repeats, conditionals and operators
- strings (multi line comment wit ''' or """ are supported)
- preconditions (import, from, as)
- comments
- builtins

The verb-py.cfg file distinguishes between the following four states:
- sections
- variables
- keywords
- comments

Regards,
Drazen
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Re: [NTG-context] Files for verbatim output of Python source, zc.buildout and Apache config files

2009-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen

Drazen Baic wrote:


Would it be OK to put the files in a section on the Wiki to start something like
a repository for verb-*.lua files where it would be easy to extend and correct
them?


sure, just go ahead

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Re: [NTG-context] Font table

2009-04-19 Thread Eythan Weg

Ulrike Fischer 
Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:02:45 +0200

   Am Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:00:54 -0400 schrieb Eythan Weg:
   
   >   I had this problem too. In my case it was an error in my texmf.cnf.
   >What does kpsewhich --show-path=tex return? And where exactly is
   >font-syn.lua? 
   
   > The file is in the base directory of context.  In
   > fact luatools cannot find any *.lua that I tried
   > in the base directory.  Other files are ok.
   
   What does 
kpsewhich --show-path=tex 
   return?

What does it has to do with lua files?

   -- 
   Ulrike Fischer 

Eythan 

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Re: [NTG-context] \section and luatex

2009-04-19 Thread Mohamed Bana
If it isn't too much trouble, please just add it back.  I'm sure it was
working in LuaTeX one point in time.
 -- Mohamed

2009/4/19 Aditya Mahajan 

> On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Mohamed Bana wrote:
>
>  \section Current Activities
>>
>> displays
>>
>> 1 C
>> urrent Activities
>>
>>
>> could you please allow \section Other to use the entire word not just the
>> first Letter.
>> And how do I tell if LuaTeX is 64bit?
>>
>> $ luatex --version
>> This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.39.0-2009041607 luatex.web v2298
>>
>> $ context --version
>> MTXrun | main context file:
>> /home/mbana/context.distro/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
>> MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.18 13:47
>>
>
> Add this somewhere (old code, not tested with latest beta)
>
> \def\dodohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]%
>  {\dowithpargument{\dododohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]}}
>
> \def\dododohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]#3%
>  {\setfalse\currentstructureown
>   \dohandlestructurehead{#1}{\c!reference=#2,\c!title={#3}}{}} % name ref
> nr title --
>
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[NTG-context] Producing EPDF

2009-04-19 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear All,

is it possible to and howdoi produce EPDF (in mkiv if it matters).
By EPDF I mean EPS like PDF, pagesize == bounding box of what is really 
printed with minimal or no white border.


Reason to do that - produce with ConTeXt one-two line short labels for 
another program (Asymptote).


  Sincerely, Michail
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Re: [NTG-context] Producing EPDF

2009-04-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 19.04.2009 um 19:28 schrieb Michail Vidiassov:


Dear All,

is it possible to and howdoi produce EPDF (in mkiv if it matters).
By EPDF I mean EPS like PDF, pagesize == bounding box of what is  
really printed with minimal or no white border.


\startTEXpage
foobar
\stopTEXpage

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Font table

2009-04-19 Thread Eythan Weg

Hans Hagen 
Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:15:34 +0200

   Eythan Weg wrote:
   > Ulrike Fischer 
   > Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:57:05 +0200
   >
   >Am Sun, 19 Apr 2009 09:17:06 -0400 schrieb Eythan Weg:
   >   >> I tried this>>
   >>>   mtxrun --verbose --reload --script fonts
   >>>
   >>> but it fails with:
   >>>
   >>>   MTXrun | using script: 
/usr/local/share/texmf/scripts/context/lua/mtx-fonts.lua
   >>>
   >>>   cannot open : No such file or directory
   >   >did you run luatools --generate to make a file database?
   >>> Yes.  And I find no errors in doing so.  I have
   >> no problems using context with the standard fonts
   >> defined otf-type.tex. >> Note that>>
   > luatools font-syn.lua >> shows nothing.
   >   I had this problem too. In my case it was an error in my
   > texmf.cnf.
   >What does kpsewhich --show-path=tex return? And where exactly is
   >font-syn.lua?   -- 
   >Ulrike Fischer 
   >
   > The file is in the base directory of context.  In
   > fact luatools cannot find any *.lua that I tried
   > in the base directory.  Other files are ok.
   
   luatools --show-path tex
   
   luatools --show-path lua

This is only for the lua path (with line breaks introduced)

.:.:/home/weg/.texmf-config/tex/context//:
/home/weg/.texmf-config/tex/generic//:/home/weg/.texmf-config/tex///:
/home/weg/.texmf-var/tex/context//:
/home/weg/.texmf-var/tex/generic//:
/home/weg/.texmf-var/tex///:
/home/weg/texmf/tex/context//:/home/weg/texmf/tex/generic//:
/home/weg/texmf/tex///:/etc/texmf/tex/context//:
/etc/texmf/tex/generic//:
/etc/texmf/tex///:!!/var/lib/texmf/tex/context//:!!/var/lib/texmf/tex/generic//:
!!/var/lib/texmf/tex///:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context//:
!!/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/generic//:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/tex///:
!!/usr/share/texmf/tex/context//:!!/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic//:
!!/usr/share/texmf/tex///:!!/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/context//:
!!/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/generic//:!!/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex///
:/home/weg/.texmf-config/scripts/luatex//:/home/weg/.texmf-config/scripts/context//
:/home/weg/.texmf-config/scripts///:/home/weg/.texmf-var/scripts/luatex//:
/home/weg/.texmf-var/scripts/context//:/home/weg/.texmf-var/scripts///:
/home/weg/texmf/scripts/luatex//:/home/weg/texmf/scripts/context//:
/home/weg/texmf/scripts///:/etc/texmf/scripts/luatex//:
/etc/texmf/scripts/context//:/etc/texmf/scripts///:
!!/var/lib/texmf/scripts/luatex//:!!/var/lib/texmf/scripts/context//
:!!/var/lib/texmf/scripts///:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/scripts/luatex//:
!!/usr/local/share/texmf/scripts/context//:
!!/usr/local/share/texmf/scripts///:!!/usr/share/texmf/scripts/luatex//:
!!/usr/share/texmf/scripts/context//:!!/usr/share/texmf/scripts///:
!!/usr/share/texmf-texlive/scripts/luatex//:
!!/usr/share/texmf-texlive/scripts/context//:!!/usr/share/texmf-texlive/scripts///

It contains:
!!/usr/local/share/texmf/scripts/context//
and 
!!/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context//

And the lua scripts in the first directories are
found but not in the second. 

I miss something...


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Re: [NTG-context] Producing EPDF

2009-04-19 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 09:28:18PM +0400, Michail Vidiassov wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> is it possible to and howdoi produce EPDF (in mkiv if it matters).
> By EPDF I mean EPS like PDF, pagesize == bounding box of what is really  
> printed with minimal or no white border.

try:

\startTEXpage
\stopTEXpage


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Re: [NTG-context] Producing EPDF

2009-04-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:



Am 19.04.2009 um 19:28 schrieb Michail Vidiassov:


Dear All,

is it possible to and howdoi produce EPDF (in mkiv if it matters).
By EPDF I mean EPS like PDF, pagesize == bounding box of what is really 
printed with minimal or no white border.


\startTEXpage
foobar
\stopTEXpage


For a pre-generated pdf, there is also a perl(?) script pdftrimwhite, that 
removes extra white space from a pdf file.


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[NTG-context] Layout module

2009-04-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Hi Patrick,

I have two points which should be changed in your module:

1. Use simplecolumns for the text and
2. limit the width for the two columns to the width of the figure

because this looks better in a float and the complete graphic can be  
centered on the page or you change this only inside floats.


\usemodule[t][layout]
\starttext
\placefigure{}{\ShowLayout}
\stoptext

Can you add the module also to the minimals?

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Producing dvi

2009-04-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 17:03, Michail Vidiassov wrote:
> Dear Mojca,
>
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>> If Asymptote is not able to handle PDF files, maybe Asymptote itself
>> would need extensions. (When I last tried to use Asymptote I gave up
>> since I was not able to figure out how to install it and started using
>> other tools.)
>
> This (installation problems) is part of the question why typesetting in
> Asymptote with ConTeXt is desirable - no need to maintain separate LaTeX
> installation, avoiding mixup with older version of ConTeXt that comes with
> it, etc.

I was mostly talking about dependency problems on libraries when
compiling asymptote (I have no idea what libraries it depends on, but
there are definitely many of them). If I want to install asymptote
with packaging system (like macports), then I *have to* install some
ancient version of TeX Live (which is great since I now need to have
three copies of TeX Live on hard-drive and without ever using it). If
I want to compile asymptote myself, I would drive me crazy before I
would figure out all the library dependencies.

It would be really nice if someone would be ready to spend time to
include asymptote in TeX Live. That would make installation thousand
times easier.

> And at this moment Asymptote is (almost) the only tool that makes 3D PDF
> directly (without  Windows-only converter like Acrobat), is
> Metapost-like and not some CAD monster or VRML fossil.

No doubt about it.

I'm trying to survive by using some random mixture of tools like
gnuplot, povray, matlab, mathematica, raw EPS, ... Mathematica has
become really impressive recently and is able to export 3D figures,
but it's not free. I wanted to use asymptote, but I had to finish
something until the deadline and didn't have the necessary time left
to install and learn it.

>> If you would like asymptote to handle ConTeXt labels you should start
>> with mkii. But honestly: I don't really see when LaTeX for typesetting
>> labels would not suffice. ConTeXt is extremely good at page
>> formatting, but when it comes to typeset "$A$" for point labels, I
>> would not mind using LaTeX (If it's only about OpenType you cannot do
>> anything unless Asymptote gets extended, but even then you could use
>> XeTeX.)
>
> Apart from maintenance problems with the zoo of tools, Asymptote aspires
> for high quality of labels (and has invested considerable effort to preserve
> it in 3D mode), that implies that labels are to be in the
> same font as the main text and/or follow some predetermined style.

True, but usually setting the right font is doable.

> As a side note - PS is a programming language very well suited for just this
> kind of problems. ;)

I agree, but PS is easy to write, while parsing someone else's code
automatically is challenging, not to say impossible.



In any case, I would recommend you to contact asymptote developers.
There's a bunch of LaTeX commands that are being harcoded in asymptote
source, and those would have to be rewritten and made configurable.
Next, you'll probably need some switch to trigger executing ConTeXt
instead of LaTeX. There is some split betwen plain TeX and LaTeX, but
you'll need a bit more work to include ConTeXt support as well.

I don't know how exactly Asymptote works. You said that it uses dvi,
but I have seen the word "xelatex" in the source, so there's no reason
why you couldn't use LuaTeX. XeLaTeX doesn't generate dvi files
either. Ask the developers if it is possible to use PDF. It will be
much much easier if you could use PDF since you could have all the
three engines supported in a single move. If you'll start with dvi,
you'll have to reconfigure everything later to make it work with XeTeX
and/or LuaTeX.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Files for verbatim output of Python source, zc.buildout and Apache config files

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On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> Drazen Baic wrote:
>
>> Would it be OK to put the files in a section on the Wiki to start
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Re: [NTG-context] Layout module

2009-04-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi Wolfgang,

> I have two points which should be changed in your module:
>
> 1. Use simplecolumns for the text and
> 2. limit the width for the two columns to the width of the figure

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll have a look this week. I will report
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> Can you add the module also to the minimals?

I will ask Mojca for that, but only if she has time.

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Re: [NTG-context] Layout module

2009-04-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 22:23, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
>
>> Can you add the module also to the minimals?
>
> I will ask Mojca for that, but only if she has time.

I don't have time, but adding a module is not a problem (I overlooked
the request before Patrick mentioned it). Though the module is so
simple that you could almost bribe Hans to add it to the core.

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Re: [NTG-context] Layout module

2009-04-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 19.04.2009 um 22:34 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:


Can you add the module also to the minimals?


I will ask Mojca for that, but only if she has time.


I don't have time, but adding a module is not a problem (I overlooked
the request before Patrick mentioned it).


No problem, I installed it now in texmf-local by hand.


  Though the module is so
simple that you could almost bribe Hans to add it to the core.


I think this is wasted effort because ConTeXt comes with layout module
and it's sometimes very hard to convince Hans to include user code.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Layout module

2009-04-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 19.04.2009 um 22:23 schrieb Patrick Gundlach:


Hi Wolfgang,


I have two points which should be changed in your module:

1. Use simplecolumns for the text and
2. limit the width for the two columns to the width of the figure


Thanks for the suggestions, I'll have a look this week. I will  
report back.


Don't hesitate, it's nothing I need at the moment.

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Re: [NTG-context] Layout module

2009-04-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 22:23, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggestions, I'll have a look this week. I will report
> back.

And since you'll definitely have lots of problems to upload a new
version of your module to the garden, you can try to figure out how to
set up git server on the garden at the same time (or at least we could
switch to svn).

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Re: [NTG-context] Layout module

2009-04-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 19.04.2009 um 22:47 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:


On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 22:23, Patrick Gundlach wrote:


Thanks for the suggestions, I'll have a look this week. I will report
back.


And since you'll definitely have lots of problems to upload a new
version of your module to the garden, you can try to figure out how to
set up git server on the garden at the same time (or at least we could
switch to svn).


or hg :)

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[NTG-context] no executesystemcommand any more?

2009-04-19 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Ahoi,

with the latest beta I can't get my LilyPond module to work.
It seems that it's not possible to execute any command.
I tried \executesystemcommand, \write18 and the old \installprogram.
What should work?
As far as I can see, shell_escape is enabled. (And it worked before.)

Additionally I tried to replace the texmfstart call with mtxrun.
While this works:
texmfstart --ifchanged="foo-lilypond-1.tmp" --exec bin:lilypond "foo- 
lilypond-1.tmp"

this doesn't:
mtxrun --ifchanged="foo-lilypond-1.tmp" --execute lilypond "foo- 
lilypond-1.tmp"

probably because mtxrun doesn't create a md5 file.


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Re: [NTG-context] Producing dvi

2009-04-19 Thread Michail Vidiassov

Dear Mojca and All,

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


(When I last tried to use Asymptote I gave up
since I was not able to figure out how to install it and started using
other tools.)



It would be really nice if someone would be ready to spend time to
include asymptote in TeX Live. That would make installation thousand
times easier.


There seems to be a feud between grand wizzards of Asymptote and TeXLive

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/37143f0885a4d884?hl=en#

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[NTG-context] missing command and wrong lists (index, ToC) in MkIV

2009-04-19 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

With the latest beta, ConTeXt doesn't know "\setupsectionblock" any more
(don't know if it actually worked before, but ConTeXt didn't complain).

Previously the lists stuff (ToC) didn't work, but that seems fixed now.
But indexes are still a mess: Instead of page numbers I get some  
strange entries like "62.13.13", where the entry is on page 12:


"""
Inhalt 1.3.3, 2.4.4, 3.5.5, 4.6.6, 5.8.8, 6.9.9,
61.10.10, 62.12.12, 63.14.14, 64.15.15, 65.16.16,
66.17.17, 67.18.18, 68.20.20, 69.21.21, 1.23.23
Allen die willen naar Island gaan 4.7.7
Der Störtebeker 65.16.16
There were two lofty ships 62.13.13
"""

This setup worked before:

\def\TitelFrame#1{%
\framed[width=\textwidth,
height=7.5mm,
frame=off,
align={right,high},
after={}, before={}]%
{\index{#1}\tfa #1}}
\setuphead[Titel][page=yes, number=no, deeptextcommand=\TitelFrame]

I.e. \Titel{Blah} should output the title "Blah" and also write it to  
the index.
Instead I those entries seem collected in a "Inhalt" entry - I guess  
that's somehow caused by my combined list "inhalt":


\definecombinedlist [inhalt]
[Titel, TitelKlein, TitelNoPage]
[level=Titel, placehead=yes, criterium=all,
alternative=b, offset=none]
\setupcombinedlist  [inhalt] [partnumber=no]


What can I do?


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Re: [NTG-context] missing command and wrong lists (index, ToC) in MkIV

2009-04-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 19.04.2009 um 23:32 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:

With the latest beta, ConTeXt doesn't know "\setupsectionblock" any  
more
(don't know if it actually worked before, but ConTeXt didn't  
complain).


\let\setupsectionblock\setupstructureblock

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] no executesystemcommand any more?

2009-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen

Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Ahoi,

with the latest beta I can't get my LilyPond module to work.
It seems that it's not possible to execute any command.
I tried \executesystemcommand, \write18 and the old \installprogram.
What should work?
As far as I can see, shell_escape is enabled. (And it worked before.)

Additionally I tried to replace the texmfstart call with mtxrun.
While this works:
texmfstart --ifchanged="foo-lilypond-1.tmp" --exec bin:lilypond 
"foo-lilypond-1.tmp"

this doesn't:
mtxrun --ifchanged="foo-lilypond-1.tmp" --execute lilypond 
"foo-lilypond-1.tmp"

probably because mtxrun doesn't create a md5 file.


in luat-cnf add the shell_escape line

texconfig.kpse_init = false
texconfig.shell_escape = 't'

also delete the font cache so that you will get the speedier tmc files

(recent luatex has more paranoid behaviour and it seems that we need to 
be real soon in enabling system commands)


Hans



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Re: [NTG-context] no executesystemcommand any more?

2009-04-19 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2009-04-20 um 00:14 schrieb Hans Hagen:


Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Ahoi,
with the latest beta I can't get my LilyPond module to work.
It seems that it's not possible to execute any command.
I tried \executesystemcommand, \write18 and the old \installprogram.
What should work?



in luat-cnf add the shell_escape line


Which file do you mean? Where should it be?


texconfig.kpse_init = false
texconfig.shell_escape = 't'

also delete the font cache so that you will get the speedier tmc files
(recent luatex has more paranoid behaviour and



ok, deleted all caches


it seems that we need to be real soon in enabling system commands)


I don't understand?


As far as I can see, shell_escape is enabled. (And it worked before.)
Additionally I tried to replace the texmfstart call with mtxrun.
While this works:
texmfstart --ifchanged="foo-lilypond-1.tmp" --exec bin:lilypond  
"foo-lilypond-1.tmp"

this doesn't:
mtxrun --ifchanged="foo-lilypond-1.tmp" --execute lilypond "foo- 
lilypond-1.tmp"

probably because mtxrun doesn't create a md5 file.



What's the matter mit mtxrun's md5 generation?


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Re: [NTG-context] no executesystemcommand any more?

2009-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen

Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 2009-04-20 um 00:14 schrieb Hans Hagen:


Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Ahoi,
with the latest beta I can't get my LilyPond module to work.
It seems that it's not possible to execute any command.
I tried \executesystemcommand, \write18 and the old \installprogram.
What should work?



in luat-cnf add the shell_escape line


Which file do you mean? Where should it be?


luat-cnf.lua


What's the matter mit mtxrun's md5 generation?


dunno, anything wrong then?

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Re: [NTG-context] no executesystemcommand any more?

2009-04-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 20.04.2009 um 00:31 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:


Am 2009-04-20 um 00:14 schrieb Hans Hagen:


in luat-cnf add the shell_escape line


Which file do you mean? Where should it be?


/Users/wolf/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-cnf.lua

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] missing command and wrong lists (index, ToC) in MkIV

2009-04-19 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2009-04-19 um 23:51 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

With the latest beta, ConTeXt doesn't know "\setupsectionblock" any  
more
(don't know if it actually worked before, but ConTeXt didn't  
complain).


\let\setupsectionblock\setupstructureblock


Thank you, I simply replaced my few calls, and it works again (at  
least it doesn't complain).



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Re: [NTG-context] no executesystemcommand any more?

2009-04-19 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2009-04-20 um 00:36 schrieb Hans Hagen:


in luat-cnf add the shell_escape line

Which file do you mean? Where should it be?

luat-cnf.lua


Sorry, I searched after luat-conf, of course grep couldn't find it...
But the two lines were already there.


What's the matter mit mtxrun's md5 generation?

dunno, anything wrong then?



"texmfstart --ifchanged=foo.tmp" wrote a .md5 file for foo.tmp,  
"mtxrun --ifchanged=foo.tmp" doesn't - maybe it saves them anywhere  
else?
Since \executesystemcommand doesn't do anything, I can't check if it  
works without that file.



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Re: [NTG-context] missing command and wrong lists (index, ToC) in MkIV

2009-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen

Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

With the latest beta, ConTeXt doesn't know "\setupsectionblock" any more
(don't know if it actually worked before, but ConTeXt didn't complain).

Previously the lists stuff (ToC) didn't work, but that seems fixed now.
But indexes are still a mess: Instead of page numbers I get some strange 
entries like "62.13.13", where the entry is on page 12:


"""
Inhalt 1.3.3, 2.4.4, 3.5.5, 4.6.6, 5.8.8, 6.9.9,
61.10.10, 62.12.12, 63.14.14, 64.15.15, 65.16.16,
66.17.17, 67.18.18, 68.20.20, 69.21.21, 1.23.23
Allen die willen naar Island gaan 4.7.7
Der Störtebeker 65.16.16
There were two lofty ships 62.13.13
"""



What can I do?


make a small test file where the funny index shows up;

Hans

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