Re: [NTG-context] TeX as an eBook engine?

2009-12-03 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm


Am 2009-12-02 um 18:03 schrieb Otared Kavian:

For those on the list who didn't see this thread on XeTeX mailing  
list:

How about ConTeXt and mkiv?


Hm, your subject is a bit misleading - I thought you wanted to *create  
eBooks* using TeX. That would be much more useful...
Even if some eBook devices can display PDF, AFAIK we still cannot  
create the re-flowable variant (needs a XML stream, see other  
discussions about tagged PDF or PDF/X).


In one of the latest c't (German computer magazine) there was a nice  
article on creating eBooks in Epub format (HTML based). Even if I  
don't intend to buy an eBook device, it made me think again about  
using another input language than TeX to create HTML, ConTeXt and  
whatever from one source. Knut Lickert recently gave a talk on Creole  
for LaTeX (Creole is an unified Wiki markup syntax), I'm still  
planning to use ReStructuredText (Python's documentation syntax) -  
note to self: finally adapt that LaTeX output filter to ConTeXt!



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[NTG-context] windows binaries

2009-12-03 Thread Hans Hagen

Mojca Miklavec wrote:


I just wanted to say that texexec.exe itself is also working (if I
copy Taco's mtxrun.exe to texexec.exe).


I figured out what the problem is ... when i make the zip, i zip a 
temporary tree. I do that using the -ll switch because when i started 
distributing the zips it was a demand that line ending should be nice 
for unix (windows can handle cr and lr, and we probably had no mac os-9 
users).


However, in a second zip pass, i add the binary files and dll/exe were 
never part of that. As a result, two bytes got messed up and these made 
the exe file invalid. So the problem is not related to xp or vista or 64 
bit (which was somewhat puzzling for me as windows binaries are normally 
quite portable).


I uploaded a new beta and installing seemd to work ok on xp and vista 
(virtual machines).


The fact that it worked on taco and my machine is that we send binaries 
to each other. Als, the zip on taco's site was okay.



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Re: [NTG-context] TeX as an eBook engine?

2009-12-03 Thread Hans Hagen

Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:


Am 2009-12-02 um 18:03 schrieb Otared Kavian:


For those on the list who didn't see this thread on XeTeX mailing list:
How about ConTeXt and mkiv?


Hm, your subject is a bit misleading - I thought you wanted to *create 
eBooks* using TeX. That would be much more useful...
Even if some eBook devices can display PDF, AFAIK we still cannot create 
the re-flowable variant (needs a XML stream, see other discussions about 
tagged PDF or PDF/X).


In one of the latest c't (German computer magazine) there was a nice 
article on creating eBooks in Epub format (HTML based). Even if I don't 
intend to buy an eBook device, it made me think again about using 
another input language than TeX to create HTML, ConTeXt and whatever 
from one source. Knut Lickert recently gave a talk on Creole for LaTeX 
(Creole is an unified Wiki markup syntax), I'm still planning to use 
ReStructuredText (Python's documentation syntax) - note to self: finally 
adapt that LaTeX output filter to ConTeXt!


Processing epub is rather trivial. On my machine I have a sample style 
and processign boils down to:


context --ctx=x-epub --autopdf dickens-a-tale-of-two-cities.epub

However, the main reason for not posting the style is that I have not 
much reason currently to work on it. Also, as epub is effectively just 
packaged html, one ends up with styles for each specific book ... you 
just don't want to know what mess is hidden in those epub files (for 
example i ran into using h2 for the chapter numbers and h3 for the 
chapter title).


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Re: [NTG-context] TeX as an eBook engine?

2009-12-03 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

 Am 2009-12-02 um 18:03 schrieb Otared Kavian:

 For those on the list who didn't see this thread on XeTeX mailing list:
 How about ConTeXt and mkiv?

 Hm, your subject is a bit misleading - I thought you wanted to *create
 eBooks* using TeX. That would be much more useful...
 Even if some eBook devices can display PDF, AFAIK we still cannot create
 the re-flowable variant (needs a XML stream, see other discussions about
 tagged PDF or PDF/X).

 In one of the latest c't (German computer magazine) there was a nice
 article on creating eBooks in Epub format (HTML based). Even if I don't
 intend to buy an eBook device, it made me think again about using another
 input language than TeX to create HTML, ConTeXt and whatever from one
 source. Knut Lickert recently gave a talk on Creole for LaTeX (Creole is
 an unified Wiki markup syntax), I'm still planning to use ReStructuredText
 (Python's documentation syntax) - note to self: finally adapt that LaTeX
 output filter to ConTeXt!

 Processing epub is rather trivial. On my machine I have a sample style and
 processign boils down to:

 context --ctx=x-epub --autopdf dickens-a-tale-of-two-cities.epub

 However, the main reason for not posting the style is that I have not much
 reason currently to work on it. Also, as epub is effectively just packaged
 html, one ends up with styles for each specific book ... you just don't want
 to know what mess is hidden in those epub files (for example i ran into
 using h2 for the chapter numbers and h3 for the chapter title).

Maybe epub as backend is a more interesting  idea:
given (some kind of gentle )  tex file one can produce an epub file as  result.



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[NTG-context] verb-pl.mkii

2009-12-03 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
Hallo,

this seems to be a little bug!

Inside 'verb-jv.mkii' should 'verb-pl.mkii' be loaded, but it isn't 
because of not having a standard extension.

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Re: [NTG-context] verb-pl.mkii

2009-12-03 Thread Hans Hagen

Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:

Hallo,

this seems to be a little bug!

Inside 'verb-jv.mkii' should 'verb-pl.mkii' be loaded, but it isn't 
because of not having a standard extension.


indeed, this should be

\ifdefined\setupprettyPLtype \else \loadmarkfile{verb-pl} \fi

(there are a few more files)


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[NTG-context] How to count with chapter

2009-12-03 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
Hallo,

is this a bug too?
---
%\chapter{Bla}
\definenumber[PC]\getnumber[PC]
\setnumber[PC]{1}\getnumber[PC]
\incrementnumber[PC]\getnumber[PC]
\incrementnumber[PC]\getnumber[PC]
---
Without \chapter I get: 0 1 2 3
With \chapter: 0 1 1 2

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Re: [NTG-context] latest beta and file mismatch problem

2009-12-03 Thread Bowen Alan C.
Otared,

This works perfectly. In all the changes to ConTeXt, I had neglected to update 
my TeXShop settings. Many thanks for your help (and patience).

Alan

On Dec 2, 2009, at 12;24,37 , Otared Kavian wrote:

 
 On 2 déc. 2009, at 18:06, Bowen Alan C. wrote:
 
 Mocja—
 
 I can process files from the command line. The problem seems to be with 
 TeXShop (which I suspect needs some updating for Snow Leopard). Reinstalling 
 TeXShop does not help.
 
 Alan
 
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 You have to add a .engine file to 
 ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines
 
 and open again TeXShop. For instance I have a file called mkii.engine 
 containing these lines (between %%%begin and %%%end of course!):
 %%% begin
 #!/bin/bash
 
 source /Volumes/OK/context-minimal/tex/setuptex 
 texexec $1
 %%%end
 
 and then in TeXShop by default the engine is chosen to be mkii. It is 
 important to know that this file must have the x bit as its rights.
 In your case this mkii.engine file should contain
 
 #!/bin/bash
 
 source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex 
 texexec $1
 
 Don't forget to chmod +x.
 Good luck!
 Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] TeX as an eBook engine?

2009-12-03 Thread William Adams

On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:12 AM, luigi scarso wrote:


Maybe epub as backend is a more interesting  idea:
given (some kind of gentle )  tex file one can produce an epub file  
as  result.



You're putting the cart before the horse.

Sadly, epub is rather lacking in markup capabilities.

Instead, one should use a full-fledged markup scheme such as TEI, then  
one can convert that using an XSLT and add a nicely designed CSS to  
create a .epub which will be as good as it gets, but unfortunately,  
won't be as nice to read as a nicely formatted .pdf due to limitations  
of the HJ capabilities of .epub viewing programs.


An excellent example of the limitations of the .epub format in  
comparison to .pdf is _Introduction to Mathematical Philosophy_:


http://people.umass.edu/klement/russell-imp.html

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Re: [NTG-context] TeX as an eBook engine?

2009-12-03 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM, William Adams will.ad...@frycomm.com wrote:
 On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:12 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

 Maybe epub as backend is a more interesting  idea:
 given (some kind of gentle )  tex file one can produce an epub file as
  result.


 You're putting the cart before the horse.
Not really.
With mkiv you can typeset xml files as pdf,
so you can also (using modes) convert it to xhtml (we have lua now).
Writing a css is not a problem, and you can also manage fonts -- after all
you know them because you need for pdf . Other  infos are trivial.

Following this route you can also make an (x)html for a WOFF enable browser
like firefox 2.6 beta -- it's almost the same of epub, after all
Cfr
people.mozilla.com/~jkew/woff/woff-spec-latest.html

Of course none can say that epub is like pdf from a typographical point of view
but for low energy devices can be better epub than pdf.

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Re: [NTG-context] How to count with chapter

2009-12-03 Thread Hans Hagen

Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:

Hallo,

is this a bug too?
---
%\chapter{Bla}
\definenumber[PC]\getnumber[PC]
\setnumber[PC]{1}\getnumber[PC]
\incrementnumber[PC]\getnumber[PC]
\incrementnumber[PC]\getnumber[PC]
---
Without \chapter I get: 0 1 2 3
With \chapter: 0 1 1 2


by default counters are reset per chapter and incrementnumber does the 
check



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Re: [NTG-context] TeX as an eBook engine?

2009-12-03 Thread William Adams

On Dec 3, 2009, at 8:22 AM, luigi scarso wrote:


Not really.


My apologies, lost the thread of the discussion. I agree w/ this.


With mkiv you can typeset xml files as pdf,
so you can also (using modes) convert it to xhtml (we have lua now).
Writing a css is not a problem, and you can also manage fonts --  
after all

you know them because you need for pdf . Other  infos are trivial.

Following this route you can also make an (x)html for a WOFF enable  
browser

like firefox 2.6 beta -- it's almost the same of epub, after all
Cfr
people.mozilla.com/~jkew/woff/woff-spec-latest.html

Of course none can say that epub is like pdf from a typographical  
point of view

but for low energy devices can be better epub than pdf.



I'll grant that .epub can be more flexible and more appropriate, but  
one has to keep in mind that one is giving up quite a bit of  
typographical quality, and that one is at the mercy of the hj of the  
viewing program and I've yet to see one which puts more than a  
minimal / brain-dead / greedy --- set as much as will fit on the  
current line and then break to the next algorithm in.


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Re: [NTG-context] TeX as an eBook engine?

2009-12-03 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:52 PM, William Adams will.ad...@frycomm.com wrote:
 On Dec 3, 2009, at 8:22 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

 Not really.

 My apologies, lost the thread of the discussion. I agree w/ this.

 With mkiv you can typeset xml files as pdf,
 so you can also (using modes) convert it to xhtml (we have lua now).
 Writing a css is not a problem, and you can also manage fonts -- after all
 you know them because you need for pdf . Other  infos are trivial.

 Following this route you can also make an (x)html for a WOFF enable
 browser
 like firefox 2.6 beta -- it's almost the same of epub, after all
 Cfr
 people.mozilla.com/~jkew/woff/woff-spec-latest.html

 Of course none can say that epub is like pdf from a typographical point of
 view
 but for low energy devices can be better epub than pdf.


 I'll grant that .epub can be more flexible and more appropriate, but one has
 to keep in mind that one is giving up quite a bit of typographical quality,
 and that one is at the mercy of the hj of the viewing program and I've yet
 to see one which puts more than a minimal / brain-dead / greedy --- set as
 much as will fit on the current line and then break to the next algorithm
 in.
It's true of course.
anyway  have you seen
http://people.mozilla.com/~jkew/woff/woff-spec-latest.html
http://people.mozilla.com/~jkew/woff/
?

I was at guit meeting this year, and  Kaveh too, and I have seen his
device with TeX.
It's really cool: it's not a simple dvi reader, it's a TeX
implementation+dvi reader
so one can exchange tex snippets with similar devices
Next release will use xetex.

I have some experience to port pdf in similar
devices too (it was 3years ago, too much time ago, really)
and in the end I'm convinced that (x)html is still the first choice.


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Re: [NTG-context] About \version[temporary]

2009-12-03 Thread Hans Hagen

Otared Kavian wrote:

Hi all,

I have a question which can be elementary, but nevertheless it has some 
importance…
When using cross references, one can somehow « visualize » the list of the 
cross references on each page with the command
\version[temporary]

However, in mkii at least, the list of the references is placed at the top of 
the page in the right margin and this is not very convenient when proof 
reading, especially in mathematical articles. It would be more handy to have 
each reference in the left (or right) margin of the line where it is defined or 
where it is invoked with the command « \in ». However I didn't manage to 
understand how this behaviour can be changed (various attempts with 
\setuplist[references] had no effect).
(By the way, in mkiv, the list is not shown).


currently they're just collected in inserts


Can anyone give an insight?


there will be a tracing mechanism in mkiv

Hans




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Re: [NTG-context] MK II ( \mainlanguage[fr] \useencoding[ffr] )+ mpost

2009-12-03 Thread Hans Hagen

Renaud AUBIN wrote:


OK, since I don't know the behavior of \setupcharacterspacing, the
following question may seem stupid to you:
How the following string will be processed « Did you notice that real
NO-BREAK SPACE chars are already there? »


why not just try it

currently only intermediate kerns, glue and spacing characters are 
considered



More over, since I have just forgotten my « Lexique des règles
typographiques en usage à l'imprimerie nationale »at work, I have to
wait the morrow to confirm the fact that some use of U+202F NARROW
NO-BREAK SPACE are necessary. Same question as the previous one applies
when NNBSP are already there…


it depends to what extend you want context to clean up and optimize 
spacing; it can be that 202F is there for other purposes (and maybe not 
even consistently used as it is kind of invisible); so it should 
probababluy configurable (we have already some modes)



And the last question of the day ;) : … expends to . . . with
french. Could that be easily corrected?


probably, but first i want proper specs on which most french users agree 
(so i do an extra cc to arthur who is sort of in charge of the french 
tex users)



(This flow of question comes from my recent experiments of the advanced
capabilities of bépo fr keyboard plus .XCompose usage).


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] texshow

2009-12-03 Thread Hans Hagen

Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:

Hallo,

I can't find a file 'texshow.pl' anymore at my context tree.
Is the file excluded in actual minimals?


mtxrun --script server --auto



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Re: [NTG-context] bibliography authoryears problem

2009-12-03 Thread Bernhard Rosensteiner
Hello,

see http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20091115.194137.4395932d.en.html

best regards

Am 03.12.2009 um 01:26 schrieb Michael Green:

 When using refcommand=authoryears and Mk IV the first reference is formatted 
 incorrectly.
 
 There is the left parenthesis, then a line break, then the rest of the 
 reference followed by the right parenthesis.
 
 With MkII it comes out correctly. And in MkIV, every reference except the 
 first is correct.
 
 This is similar to a problem reported in another thread, but I don't see how 
 the resolution proposed there applies here.
 
 http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20091116.073439.c2549ecb.en.html
 
 It isn't a crucial thing for me. I can use MkII when I need to use this 
 citation style. I'm just submitting this as a possible bug report.
 
 
 This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.46.0-2009112820
 \write18 enabled.
 (bib-test.tex
 
 ConTeXt  ver: 2009.12.01 17:09 MKIV  fmt: 2009.12.1  int: english/english
 
 I'm attaching three files: the source, the bibliography, and the pdf output 
 that I get.
 
 bib-test.textest-bib.bib
 bib-test.pdf
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[NTG-context] placesidebyside inside combination

2009-12-03 Thread Alan BRASLAU
Hello,

Nesting \placesidebyside inside \startcombination\stopcombination
appears to throw-off the spacing.

Alan

%%%
% Minimal example:
% (left pair is misplaced)
%%%

\setupcombinations [distance=0cm]

\starttext
\framed [width=8cm] {%
\startcombination [2]
{\placesidebyside
{\framed [width=2cm,height=3cm,
background=color,backgroundcolor=red] {}}
{\framed [width=2cm,height=3cm,
background=color,backgroundcolor=green] {}}
} {(a)}
{\placesidebyside
{\framed [width=2cm,height=3cm,
background=color,backgroundcolor=blue] {}}
{\framed [width=2cm,height=3cm,
background=color,backgroundcolor=yellow] {}}
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\stopcombination
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Re: [NTG-context] bibliography authoryears problem

2009-12-03 Thread Hans Hagen

Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote:

Hello,

see http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20091115.194137.4395932d.en.html


seen but i wait till Thomas or Taco (the bibliography experts) comments 
on it


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Re: [NTG-context] problem with texmf-local on Vista

2009-12-03 Thread Christopher G D Tipper
OK the problem becomes clearer. The map files are now fixed, and texexec 
now complains it cannot find punr8a.pfb. Copying all pfb and afm files 
to c:\context\texmf-context\font\type1\adobe\univers and refreshing the 
filename database with mktexlsr allows the document to compile.


I have two problems:
(1) (The original problem) putting the pfb and afm files in texmf-local 
and updating filename database does not work. So texmf-local is being 
ignored.


(2) (My real problem, preventing me from using my own setups) \input 
basic-template where basic-template.tex is in the local tree is an error 
and the file will not compile.


However, I get this:
C:\Users\Christopherkpsewhich basic-template
c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex

C:\Users\Christopher

So for some reason texexec is not using kpsewhich to find setups. Why not?

Christopher


Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 15:23, Christopher G D Tipper wrote:

Hi Mojca,

We are talking about a problem with texexec.bat,
and I have a feeling that texexec.exe may behave differently, once I can
execute it.


Unlikely.

I just wanted to say that texexec.exe itself is also working (if I
copy Taco's mtxrun.exe to texexec.exe).



Yes, I forgot to mention that I copied all files to the Desktop (including
the tfm and the typescript) and got the same error with texexec.bat.


If you copied all the files to desktop (including map and enc files
and removing the directory structure) and tried to compile a tex file
on desktop ...it could be that there's something wrong with either
files or ConTeXt, not necessary with wrong tree structure.

I highly suspect a problem with same map file (missing, failed to load
or corrupted). The tfm file itself is not enough. You also need to
load a map file that has the line with that font included (unless it's
a mf fonts).


Also I last had Context working on this PC in May, and the file compiled
fine. However, I removed MikTeX 2.7 shortly after that (which was broken)
and have been unable to use Context since. Not a problem, as I have a
working setup on my Mac, but there is very little reason to upgrade the Mac,
as everything I need currently works.


Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] problem with texmf-local on Vista

2009-12-03 Thread Hans Hagen

Christopher G D Tipper wrote:


However, I get this:
C:\Users\Christopherkpsewhich basic-template
c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex

C:\Users\Christopher

So for some reason texexec is not using kpsewhich to find setups. Why not?


this is not related to texexec but to the way texmf.cnf is set up

what happens if you say

kpsewhich -progname=context ...



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Re: [NTG-context] problem with texmf-local on Vista

2009-12-03 Thread Hans Hagen

Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
OK the problem becomes clearer. The map files are now fixed, and texexec 
now complains it cannot find punr8a.pfb. Copying all pfb and afm files 
to c:\context\texmf-context\font\type1\adobe\univers and refreshing the 
filename database with mktexlsr allows the document to compile.


I have two problems:
(1) (The original problem) putting the pfb and afm files in texmf-local 
and updating filename database does not work. So texmf-local is being 
ignored.


(2) (My real problem, preventing me from using my own setups) \input 
basic-template where basic-template.tex is in the local tree is an error 
and the file will not compile.


However, I get this:
C:\Users\Christopherkpsewhich basic-template
c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex

C:\Users\Christopher

So for some reason texexec is not using kpsewhich to find setups. Why not?


you can simulate what context looks for with:

texmfstart --locate basic-template.tex

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Re: [NTG-context] problem with texmf-local on Vista

2009-12-03 Thread Christopher G D Tipper

So following your instructions I get:

C:\Users\Christopherkpsewhich -progname=texexec basic-template
c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex

C:\Users\Christophertexmfstart --locate basic-template.tex
C:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex
C:\Users\Christopher

However when I run texexec, I get an error:
texexec --pdf --interface=en --nonstop rss-tech-tip.tex
...
(c:/context/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkii))
! I can't find file `basic-template'.
l.1 \input basic-template

(Press Enter to retry, or Control-Z to exit)
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
l.1 \input basic-template

I don't have a clue what's happening, I'm afraid.

Christopher

Hans Hagen wrote:

Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
OK the problem becomes clearer. The map files are now fixed, and 
texexec now complains it cannot find punr8a.pfb. Copying all pfb and 
afm files to c:\context\texmf-context\font\type1\adobe\univers and 
refreshing the filename database with mktexlsr allows the document to 
compile.


I have two problems:
(1) (The original problem) putting the pfb and afm files in 
texmf-local and updating filename database does not work. So 
texmf-local is being ignored.


(2) (My real problem, preventing me from using my own setups) \input 
basic-template where basic-template.tex is in the local tree is an 
error and the file will not compile.


However, I get this:
C:\Users\Christopherkpsewhich basic-template
c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex

C:\Users\Christopher

So for some reason texexec is not using kpsewhich to find setups. Why 
not?


you can simulate what context looks for with:

texmfstart --locate basic-template.tex

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Re: [NTG-context] problem with texmf-local on Vista

2009-12-03 Thread Hans Hagen

Christopher G D Tipper wrote:

So following your instructions I get:

C:\Users\Christopherkpsewhich -progname=texexec basic-template
c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex

C:\Users\Christophertexmfstart --locate basic-template.tex
C:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex
C:\Users\Christopher

However when I run texexec, I get an error:
texexec --pdf --interface=en --nonstop rss-tech-tip.tex

(c:/context/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkii))
! I can't find file `basic-template'.
l.1 \input basic-template

(Press Enter to retry, or Control-Z to exit)
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
l.1 \input basic-template

I don't have a clue what's happening, I'm afraid.


i have no clue either, some kpse mess up or so

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Help watned for numbered descriptions

2009-12-03 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi all,

I put the solution given by Hans on the wiki under the keyword « proclaim » but 
didn't know how to make a cross link between this entry and other relevant 
entries such as \defineenumeration.
Here is the link:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/proclaim

Best regards: OK

On 30 nov. 2009, at 22:29, Hans Hagen wrote:

 Otared Kavian wrote:
 Hi Hans, Aditya,
 Many thanks for your attention: the solution suggested by Aditya is very 
 satisfactory for the time being, as far as one uses mkii.
 I added an entry on the wiki about proclaim:
  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/proclaim
 However, as Hans says, there is a slight problem with mkiv and the way 
 things get numbered.
 
 i uploaded a beta
 
 \defineenumeration[one]
 \defineenumeration[two]   [one] % clone one
 \defineenumeration[three] [counter=one,style=slanted] % only use counter of 
 one
 \defineenumeration[four]  [three] % clone three
 \defineenumeration[five]  [three] [counter=five] % clone three and use own 
 counter
 \defineenumeration[six]   [three] [counter=four] % clone tree and use counter 
 four (undefined)
 
 \setupenumerations[one]  [prefix=yes,prefixsegments=section]
 \setupenumerations[two]  [prefix=yes,prefixsegments=section]
 \setupenumerations[three][prefix=yes,prefixsegments=section]
 \setupenumerations[four] [prefix=yes,prefixsegments=chapter:section]
 \setupenumerations[five] [prefix=yes,prefixsegments=chapter:section]
 \setupenumerations[six]  [prefix=yes,prefixsegments=chapter:section]
 
 \starttext
 
 \chapter{test}
 
 \startone   test test  1 \stopone
 \starttwo   test test  2 \stoptwo
 \startthree test test  3 \stopthree
 \startfour  test test  4 \stopfour
 \startfive  test test  1 \stopfive
 \startsix   test test  1 \stopsix
 
 \chapter{test}
 
 \section{test}
 
 \startone   test test  6 \stopone
 \starttwo   test test  7 \stoptwo
 \startthree test test  8 \stopthree
 \startfour  test test  9 \stopfour
 \startfive  test test  2 \stopfive
 \startsix   test test  2 \stopsix
 
 \stoptext
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] bibliography authoryears problem

2009-12-03 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Michael Green wrote:
When using refcommand=authoryears and Mk IV the first reference is 
formatted incorrectly.


There is the left parenthesis, then a line break, then the rest of the 
reference followed by the right parenthesis.


With MkII it comes out correctly. And in MkIV, every reference except 
the first is correct.


This is similar to a problem reported in another thread, but I don't see 
how the resolution proposed there applies here.


http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20091116.073439.c2549ecb.en.html


I'll check this tomorrow (my luatex is a bit unstable at the moment,
have to fix that first).

Best wishes,
Taco


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Re: [NTG-context] bibliography authoryears problem

2009-12-03 Thread Michael Green
I should have mentioned that there's a similar problem with  
refcommand=authoryear (my previous post concerned  
refcommand=authoryears).


Using Mk IV, the first citation is preceded with a new line. Mk II  
behaves appropriately. And all citations other than the first one are  
formatted correctly by Mk IV.


This is quite similar to the problem I reported with  
refcommand=authoryears. In both cases, only the first citation is  
wrong and the error in both cases involves a line break. Perhaps they  
have a related cause. Happy hunting!


mjg

Samples are attached.

This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.46.0-2009112820
 \write18 enabled.
(bib-test-2.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2009.12.01 17:09 MKIV  fmt: 2009.12.1  int: english/ 
english




bib-test-2.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


bib-test-2.tex
Description: Binary data


test-bib.bib
Description: Binary data
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Re: [NTG-context] texshow

2009-12-03 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
On 3 Dec 2009 at 18:50, ntg-context-requ...@ntg.nl wrote:

Von:ntg-context-requ...@ntg.nl
Betreff:ntg-context Digest, Vol 66, Issue 17
An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Antwort an: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Datum:  Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:50:04 +0100

  I can't find a file 'texshow.pl' anymore at my context tree.
  Is the file excluded in actual minimals?
 
 mtxrun --script server --auto

I tried to use this command under windows 2000 scite (console).
The process does not do anything obvious. I have killed it after some 
time.

Can I download 'texshow.pl' somewhere?

Gruß, Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] How to count with chapter

2009-12-03 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
On 3 Dec 2009 at 18:17, ntg-context-requ...@ntg.nl wrote:

Von:ntg-context-requ...@ntg.nl
Betreff:ntg-context Digest, Vol 66, Issue 16
An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Antwort an: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Datum:  Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:17:05 +0100

  is this a bug too?
  ---
  %\chapter{Bla}
  \definenumber[PC]\getnumber[PC]
  \setnumber[PC]{1}\getnumber[PC]
  \incrementnumber[PC]\getnumber[PC]
  \incrementnumber[PC]\getnumber[PC]
  ---
  Without \chapter I get: 0 1 2 3
  With \chapter: 0 1 1 2
 
 by default counters are reset per chapter and incrementnumber does
 the check
 

Hmm. But isn't it wrong to reset a counter who doesn't even exist 
with chapter start? Why not do the same check with setnumber?

Gruß, Wolfgang


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Re: [NTG-context] texshow

2009-12-03 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 03.12.2009 um 23:02 schrieb Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini:

 I can't find a file 'texshow.pl' anymore at my context tree.
 Is the file excluded in actual minimals?
 
 mtxrun --script server --auto
 
 I tried to use this command under windows 2000 scite (console).
 The process does not do anything obvious. I have killed it after some 
 time.

There should be a line like

MTXrun | context services: http://localhost:31415/mtx-server-ctx-startup.lua

in the terminal, you can copy the link and use it in your browser to run 
texshow.

Wolfgang

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