Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts or Typecripts

2010-08-13 Thread Gour D.
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:58:55 +0200
>> "Hans" == Hans Hagen  wrote:

Hans> it depends ... simplefonts uses some heuristics and therefore can
Hans> make it easier but not all fonts fit into a systematic approach

I see.

Hans> for a long time project making a few typescripts (just use those
Hans> defined at the end of type-otf.mkiv as template) and using file:
Hans> is more robust esp as it will nicely fail when something
Hans> fundamental has changed (names or so)

Thanks for the hint.

By inspecting type-otf.mkiv from texlive & context-minimals, I see
that the latter is almost 4x bigger - probably it includes most of the
interesting free fonts available.

For now, it can be enough considering that atm we'll mostly write
markdown/reST and convert to ConTeXt via pandoc, but later we'll go
into final production and then there will be another question
relevant - whether there are some affordable commercial quality
fonts which could enhance the free collection and which cover extended
Unicode range (we need to use Sanskrit diacritics that were created via
TeX accent mechanism when we worked in old LaTeX).


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: [NTG-context] other markup to ConTeXt

2010-08-13 Thread Gour D.
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:35:04 +0200
>> "Henning" == Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

Henning> Sounds interesting. What's your workflow? Do you use a special
Henning> editor (WYSIWYM?) for your markup?

Writing markdown/reST in Emacs which has nice modes for both markup
formats. (There is even pandoc-mode.). Then I plan to use Sphinx to
generate nice html and qthelp files.

Finally, for the high-quality output, we plan to convert to ConTeXt
(via pandoc since there is no ConTeXt writer for sphinx/docutils) for
high-quality PDF output (if rst2pdf won't be satisfying or if we would
like to provide paper putput.

Henning> For a new project I'm planning to use some simple markup
Henning> (probably ReST) with a Web CMS to create HTML and ConTeXt ->
Henning> PDF. (I won't need math.)

I don't need math as well. ;)


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Re: [NTG-context] other markup to ConTeXt (was: simplefonts or Typecripts)

2010-08-13 Thread John Haltiwanger
This is very similar to a project in which I am planning to engage in
the near future. Output to both HTML and PDF utilizing a simple markup
seems to be a "killer feature" that at least some of us are looking
for. Cross-media publishing, however, is never painless. It's like a
Holy Grail.

Pandoc makes me want to either learn Haskell or implement my own
markup with a focus towards multiple output formats and typesetting in
general (most markups seem to be focused on developer workflows).

Anyway, a fruitful space for ConTeXt, thanks to its strive for configurability.

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
> Am 2010-08-13 um 21:11 schrieb Gour D.:
>>
>> For now, it can be enough considering that atm we'll mostly write
>> markdown/reST and convert to ConTeXt via pandoc, but later we'll go
>> into final production...
>
> Sounds interesting. What's your workflow? Do you use a special editor
> (WYSIWYM?) for your markup?
>
> For a new project I'm planning to use some simple markup (probably ReST)
> with a Web CMS to create HTML and ConTeXt -> PDF.
> (I won't need math.)
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Footnote numbers not following \setupinteraction color

2010-08-13 Thread Hans Hagen

On 13-8-2010 7:54, John Haltiwanger wrote:

I seem to be full of problems today:

---
\setupcolors[state=start]
\setupinteraction[state=start, color=black]

\setupcolor[hex]
\definecolor[titleRed][h=910A00]

\starttext

This \footnote{should not have a red color, correct?}

\stoptext
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The footnote number in the page footer inherits color titleRed, though
the footnote "notice" in the text is properly black.


color=,contrastcolor=

red means: link on same page (contrastcolor is used then)


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Re: [NTG-context] other markup to ConTeXt (was: simplefonts or Typecripts)

2010-08-13 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2010-08-13 um 21:11 schrieb Gour D.:


For now, it can be enough considering that atm we'll mostly write
markdown/reST and convert to ConTeXt via pandoc, but later we'll go
into final production...


Sounds interesting. What's your workflow? Do you use a special editor  
(WYSIWYM?) for your markup?


For a new project I'm planning to use some simple markup (probably  
ReST) with a Web CMS to create HTML and ConTeXt -> PDF.

(I won't need math.)

Greetlings from Lake Constance!
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Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts or Typecripts

2010-08-13 Thread Gour D.
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:58:55 +0200
>> "Hans" == Hans Hagen  wrote:  

Hans> it depends ... simplefonts uses some heuristics and therefore can
Hans> make it easier but not all fonts fit into a systematic approach  

I see.

Hans> for a long time project making a few typescripts (just use those
Hans> defined at the end of type-otf.mkiv as template) and using file:
Hans> is more robust esp as it will nicely fail when something
Hans> fundamental has changed (names or so)  

Thanks for the hint.

By inspecting type-otf.mkiv from texlive & context-minimals, I see
that the latter is almost 4x bigger - probably it includes most of the
interesting free fonts available.

For now, it can be enough considering that atm we'll mostly write
markdown/reST and convert to ConTeXt via pandoc, but later we'll go
into final production and then there will be another question
relevant - whether there are some affordable commercial quality
fonts which could enhance the free collection and which cover extended
Unicode range (we need to use Sanskrit diacritics that were created via
TeX accent mechanism when we worked in old LaTeX).


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Re: [NTG-context] Footnote numbers not following \setupinteraction color

2010-08-13 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-08-13 <17:54:02>, John Haltiwanger wrote:
> I seem to be full of problems today:
> 
> ---
> \setupcolors[state=start]
> \setupinteraction[state=start, color=black]

Hi John,

it's a link to the same page:
\setupinteraction[state=start, color=black, contrastcolor=black] 
should fix it.

Philipp


> 
> \setupcolor[hex]
> \definecolor[titleRed][h=910A00]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> This \footnote{should not have a red color, correct?}
> 
> \stoptext
> ---
> 
> The footnote number in the page footer inherits color titleRed, though
> the footnote "notice" in the text is properly black.
> 
> Also, this doesn't seem to affect links in my ToC (they aren't titleRed).
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[NTG-context] Footnote numbers not following \setupinteraction color

2010-08-13 Thread John Haltiwanger
I seem to be full of problems today:

---
\setupcolors[state=start]
\setupinteraction[state=start, color=black]

\setupcolor[hex]
\definecolor[titleRed][h=910A00]

\starttext

This \footnote{should not have a red color, correct?}

\stoptext
---

The footnote number in the page footer inherits color titleRed, though
the footnote "notice" in the text is properly black.

Also, this doesn't seem to affect links in my ToC (they aren't titleRed).
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Re: [NTG-context] Simplefonts + Linux Libertine fails to do italics and bold

2010-08-13 Thread John Haltiwanger
Thanks, that resolves it!

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
 wrote:
>  Am 13.08.10 13:58, schrieb John Haltiwanger:
>>
>> The following shows a problem I am seeing when trying to use the
>> opentype version of Linux Libertine with the simplefonts module.
>>
>> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>> \setmainfont[linlibertineo]
>
> You have to use the full name of the font, e.g.
>
> \setmainfont[Linux Libertine O]
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Re: [NTG-context] Simplefonts + Linux Libertine fails to do italics and bold

2010-08-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

 Am 13.08.10 13:58, schrieb John Haltiwanger:

The following shows a problem I am seeing when trying to use the
opentype version of Linux Libertine with the simplefonts module.

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[linlibertineo]


You have to use the full name of the font, e.g.

\setmainfont[Linux Libertine O]

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] simplefonts or Typecripts

2010-08-13 Thread Hans Hagen

On 13-8-2010 1:03, Gour D. wrote:

Hello!

I'd like to (finally) dive into ConTeXt (MkIV) using it for everything
and stop using LyX/LaTeX...ConText is installed via
context-minimals-git package on Archlinux (thank you Aditya).

The 'Using fonts' section on wiki says:

Handling fonts in LuaTeX can be done

 * in a simple but limited way, using the simplefonts module;
 * in the standard way, using TypeScripts

and I've tried example with Delicious font (too bad there is no
Croatian characters available) and it works.

Considering I never learnt TypeScripts mechanism (and managed to
forget most of ConteXr I knew when fiddling with it some years ago), I
wonder if 'simplefonts' is THE way to go with fonts in MkIV and/or is
there something one may miss by not using TypeScripts mechanism?


it depends ... simplefonts uses some heuristics and therefore can make 
it easier but not all fonts fit into a systematic approach


for a long time project making a few typescripts (just use those defined 
at the end of type-otf.mkiv as template) and using file: is more robust 
esp as it will nicely fail when something fundamental has changed (names 
or so)


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Re: [NTG-context] Simplefonts + Linux Libertine fails to do italics and bold

2010-08-13 Thread Hans Hagen

On 13-8-2010 1:58, John Haltiwanger wrote:

The following shows a problem I am seeing when trying to use the
opentype version of Linux Libertine with the simplefonts module.

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[linlibertineo]

\starttext
Well, {\em this} doesn't work but {\sc this} does... and bold {\bf 
neither}
\stoptext

Using a recent minimals and a luatex ~0.60.2 .


it might be related to the names of the fonts when they're taken from 
ctan as there fontnames get texified sometimes


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Re: [NTG-context] Bugs in current beta (streams)

2010-08-13 Thread Salil Sayed
Hi,

and how does one do this in mkiv now?
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Columns#Streams

\usemodule[streams] 

\def\StartCouple{\page\SwitchToNormal} 
\def\StopCouple {\SwitchToNormal \SynchronizeLeftAndRight \FlushLeftAndRight} 
\def\Original {\SwitchToNormal\SynchronizeLeftAndRight\SwitchToLeft} 
\def\Translation{\SwitchToRight} 

\Original\en
Are you sleeping, brother John?

\Translation\de
Bruder Jakob, schläfst du noch?

i get the same error of course.

thanks,

Salil





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Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 12:22:02 PM
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Bugs in current beta

On 10-8-2010 5:36, Andreas Harder wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> for me (OS X 10.6.4)
> mtxrun –script server –auto
> do not work. If I click on a font name I get:
> MTXrun | request from: 127.0.0.1
> MTXrun | requested action: 
>/mtx-server-ctx-fonttest.lua?selection=hoeflertextregular
> MTXrun | performing action: 
>/mtx-server-ctx-fonttest.lua?selection=hoeflertextregular
> MTXrun | requested file 
>'/mtx-server-ctx-fonttest.lua?selection=hoeflertextregular'
> MTXrun | handling error 404: Not Found
> 
> Another thing is the streams-module. Here is an example:
> 
> \usemodule[streams]
> \definestreamlayer[test][method=overlay]
> \setupbackgrounds[page][background=test]
> 
> \starttext  \showframe
> \startstreamlayer[test]
>\startcolumns
>  \input knuth
>\stopcolumns
> \stopstreamlayer
> 
> \setlayer[test][x=5cm,y=10cm]{\placestreamlayer[test]}
> \stoptext
> 
> And here the error:
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> l.19 \defineoutputstream[\v!left]

This is not really a bug. Streams in mkii are an experiment and will not be 
developed further (is a module after all). In mkiv there will be a different 
mechanism. There is some experimental code ... copied from the source:

\enabletrackers[streams.flushing]

\setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid

\starttext

\input tufte

\startoutputstream[nl]

Wat doen we hier?

\enableoutputstream[en]

Are you sleeping, brother John?\footnote{xxx}

\dorecurse{4}{x \footnote{note \recurselevel}\input tufte \par 
\pushoutputstream}

\enableoutputstream[de]

Bruder Jakob, schläfst du noch?\footnote{yyy}

\dorecurse{4}{x \footnote{note \recurselevel}\input ward \par \pushoutputstream}

\disableoutputstream

\stopoutputstream

Vader Jacob, slaap je nog?\footnote{zzz}

\input tufte

\synchronizestreams[en,de,nl]

\page \flushoutputstream[en] \input knuth
\page \flushoutputstream[de] \input knuth
\page \flushoutputstream[nl] \input knuth

\stoptext

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[NTG-context] Simplefonts + Linux Libertine fails to do italics and bold

2010-08-13 Thread John Haltiwanger
The following shows a problem I am seeing when trying to use the
opentype version of Linux Libertine with the simplefonts module.

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[linlibertineo]

\starttext
Well, {\em this} doesn't work but {\sc this} does... and bold {\bf 
neither}
\stoptext

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[NTG-context] simplefonts or Typecripts

2010-08-13 Thread Gour D.
Hello!

I'd like to (finally) dive into ConTeXt (MkIV) using it for everything
and stop using LyX/LaTeX...ConText is installed via
context-minimals-git package on Archlinux (thank you Aditya).

The 'Using fonts' section on wiki says:

Handling fonts in LuaTeX can be done

* in a simple but limited way, using the simplefonts module;
* in the standard way, using TypeScripts 

and I've tried example with Delicious font (too bad there is no
Croatian characters available) and it works.

Considering I never learnt TypeScripts mechanism (and managed to
forget most of ConteXr I knew when fiddling with it some years ago), I
wonder if 'simplefonts' is THE way to go with fonts in MkIV and/or is
there something one may miss by not using TypeScripts mechanism?


Sincerely,
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Re: [NTG-context] checking for module parameters

2010-08-13 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-08-13 <05:16:40>, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>  Am 13.08.10 00:20, schrieb Philipp Gesang:
> >Hi,
> >
> >is there a way to check whether an option was specified through \usemodule?
> >Couldn't find anything like that in core-fil.mkiv.
> >
> >I'd imagined some branching as with the system macros:
> >
> >·· Wishful thinking 
> >···
> >
> >\doifmoduleparameter{modulename}{key}  % in the module 
> >code
> >   {\somecommand[\moduleparameter{modulename}{key}]}
> >
> >\usemodule % user code
> >   [modulename]
> >   [key=val]
> >
> >· /Wishful thinking 
> >···
> >
> >Thanks for any suggestions,
> 
> You can set a empty value for the kay in your module and check if
> the user has set a value with \usemodule:
> 
> \setupmodule[key=]
> 
> \doifsomething{\currentmoduleparameter{key}}{\setupsomething[key=\currentmoduleparameter{key}]}
> 
> For a better answer i have to know for what purpose you need this
> information.

Hi Wolfgang,

you don't have to look any further, this is exactly what I was looking
for! (Note to self: maybe it is time to investigate the dozens of doif.*
tests a bit more thoroughly.) Thanks,

Philipp


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