[NTG-context] Cut-Space

2013-01-25 Thread H. Özoguz

Hi there,

I am usually using Din A5 with

\definepapersize[MyBook][A5]

\setuppapersize[MyBook][A5]


How to add 3mm cut space (extra space) on all four edges?

Thank you.
Huseyin

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Re: [NTG-context] Cut-Space

2013-01-25 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–01–25 H. Özoguz wrote:

 How to add 3mm cut space (extra space) on all four edges?

You did not make yourself clear what exactly you want and where to
add the space. Here you find an (incomplete) overview of the page
layout dimensions:

  http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/71069/5245

Marco


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[NTG-context] Coming back to ConTeXt

2013-01-25 Thread Alain Delmotte

Hi,

 I decided to give another try to ConTeXt.
 I already did two years ago, I think, but I had problems 
mostly because of the lack of documentation for MkIV.
 Having a more or less strong knowledge and experience of 
LaTeX doesn't help!!!


 This time:
 I did not succeed to install a stand alone version. I have 
also TeX Live and I need it for LaTeX.

 I am using TeXworks (not the one from TeX Live).
 I use ConTeX from TeX Live 2012:
 This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.2-2012080612 (TeX Live 
2012/W32TeX)
 ConTeXt  ver: 2012.05.30 11:26 MKIV  fmt: 2013.1.20  int: 
english/english


 Following the discussions on ntg-context, there often is 
solution using one of hte latest version of ConTeXt, so I 
have a first question: is it possible to update the TeX Live 
ConTeXt and its associated files?


 I also have questions about typography (hyphenation, 
typographic rules,...) to have something according the 
French rules, and others...


 Other questions in another message.

 Thanks for your help,

 Alain Delmotte


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[NTG-context] Some questions

2013-01-25 Thread Alain Delmotte

 Hi,

 Now some questions to solve the problems I have when I try 
to follow the tutorial ConTeXt an excursion.
 I think it is for mkII and I use mkIV and that there has 
been many changes in between.


 - The example at the bottom of page 11 and page 12 gives 
me an error:

 ! Argument of \head has an extra }.

system   tex  error on line 52 in file 
travail.tex: Argument of  ...


42 Hasselt lies in the province of Overijssel and there 
are a number of customs that are typical of this province.

43 \startitemize
44 \head kraamschudden \hfill (child welcoming)
45 When a child is born the neighbours come to visit the 
new parents. The women come to admire the baby and the men 
come to judge the baby (if it is a boy) if he will become a 
strong man.
46 The neighbours will bring a {\em krentenwegge} along. 
A krentenwegge is a loaf of currant bread of about 1 \Meter\ 
long. Of course the birth is celebrated with {\em jenever}.

47 \head nabuurschap (naberschop) \hfill (neighbourship)
48 Smaller communities used to be very dependent on the 
cooperation among the members for their well being. Members 
of the {\em nabuurschap} helped each other in difficult 
times during harvest times, funerals or any hardship that 
fell upon the community.

49 \head Abraham \ Sarah  \hfill (identical)
50 When people turn 50 in Hasselt it is said that they 
see Abraham or Sarah. The custom is to give these people a 
{\em speculaas} Abraham or a Sarah. Speculaas is a kind of 
hard spiced biscuit.

51 \stopitemize
52 

- The tables pages 30-31-32-35 are not at the right position 
on the page, mostly they are to the right and not centered.


- The chemical formulae give an error (pages 37-38), but 
I'll come back to that later on, but what is the manual 
about it?


- The boxes on page 45, second example are not at the right 
position, particularly the second is on the same line as the 
first.

\leftaligned
{\inframed[width=fit]{People in Hasselt}}
\midaligned
{\inframed[height=1.5cm,frame=off]{have a}}
\rightaligned
{\inframed[background=screen]{historic background}}

What are the up todate manuals for MkIV?

OK It's enough bothering you for the moment.

Thanks in advance,

Alain Delmotte

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Re: [NTG-context] Some questions

2013-01-25 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–01–25 Alain Delmotte wrote:

  I think it is for mkII and I use mkIV and that there has been many
 changes in between.

Indeed.

  - The example at the bottom of page 11 and page 12 gives me an
 error:
  ! Argument of \head has an extra }.

\starttext
\startitemize
  \starthead kraamschudden\hfill (child welcoming) \stophead
When a child is born the neighbours come to visit the new
parents. The women come to admire the baby and the men come to
judge the baby (if it is a boy) if he will become a strong man.
The neighbours will bring a {\em krentenwegge} along. A
krentenwegge is a loaf of currant bread of about \unit{1 meter}
long. Of course the birth is celebrated with {\em jenever}.
  \starthead nabuurschap (naberschop) \hfill (neighbourship) \stophead
Smaller communities used to be very dependent on the
cooperation among the members for their well being. Members of
the {\em nabuurschap} helped each other in difficult times
during harvest times, funerals or any hardship that fell upon
the community.
  \starthead Abraham \ Sarah \hfill (identical) \stophead
When people turn 50 in Hasselt it is said that they see Abraham
or Sarah. The custom is to give these people a {\em speculaas}
Abraham or a Sarah. Speculaas is a kind of hard spiced biscuit.
\stopitemize
\stoptext


 - The tables pages 30-31-32-35 are not at the right position on the
 page, mostly they are to the right and not centered.

I did not try all example, but this seems to work here. Can you
provide a minimal example and say what you expect to be different?

 - The chemical formulae give an error (pages 37-38), but I'll come
 back to that later on, but what is the manual about it?

Hans and Alan are in the process of completely re-writing the
chemical macros. I don't know the current state.

 - The boxes on page 45, second example are not at the right
 position, particularly the second is on the same line as the first.
 \leftaligned
 {\inframed[width=fit]{People in Hasselt}}
 \midaligned
 {\inframed[height=1.5cm,frame=off]{have a}}
 \rightaligned
 {\inframed[background=screen]{historic background}}

In MkIV there's a new syntax you can use:

\startlinealignment [left]
  \inframed[width=fit]{People in Hasselt}
\stoplinealignment

\startlinealignment [middle]
  \inframed[height=1.5cm,frame=on]{have a}
\stoplinealignment

\startlinealignment [right]
  \inframed[background=screen]{historic background}
\stoplinealignment

I did not investigate why the middle alignment is on the same line
as the left alignment and if that's intended or not.

 What are the up todate manuals for MkIV?

I'm afraid there are none (and probably never will be). The wiki
improved an awful lot during the last months, especially the command
reference. There's also the revised manual, tex.stackexchange and of
course the mailing list.

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] Some questions

2013-01-25 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:47:56 +0100
Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com wrote:

  - The chemical formulae give an error (pages 37-38), but I'll come
  back to that later on, but what is the manual about it?  
 
 Hans and Alan are in the process of completely re-writing the
 chemical macros. I don't know the current state.

I have written a new manual that will be made available (soon),
once I manage to find some time with Hans to finish a few points...

I see that in the example from the ConTeXt Excursion manual, PB:...PE currently 
gives some errors.
I will look into this this weekend (I prefer to use SAVE...RESTORE, but I see 
that it is indeed
important to keep PB:...PE working to insure some backwards compatibility).

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Coming back to ConTeXt

2013-01-25 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–01–25 Alain Delmotte wrote:

  I decided to give another try to ConTeXt.
  I already did two years ago, I think, but I had problems mostly
 because of the lack of documentation for MkIV.

Welcome back!

  I did not succeed to install a stand alone version.

It should be as easy as running first-setup followed by setting the
PATH. Explain exactly what you have tried and what failed, then we
can help.

 I have also TeX Live and I need it for LaTeX.

No problem. ConTeXt does not interfere with other TeX installations.

  Following the discussions on ntg-context, there often is solution
 using one of hte latest version of ConTeXt, so I have a first
 question:

Correct.

 is it possible to update the TeX Live ConTeXt and its
 associated files?

I don't use TeX Live myself, so I cannot help you directly. But
there is a repository called “tlcontrib” with more recent packages.
My suggestion is to focus on getting the standalone version working.
You will receive the most recent bug fixes and it does not interfere
with your LaTeX.

Marco


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[NTG-context] setuphead command ! Argument of \xxx has an extra }.

2013-01-25 Thread Jean-Philippe Rey
Hi,

I am trying to use a homemade command to display chapter heads but I 
systematically get the following error:

! Argument of \ChapterHead has an extra }.

Here is my minimal example


\def\ChapterHead#1#2{#1 --- #2}
\setuphead[chapter][command=\ChapterHead]
\starttext
\chapter{Hello}
Some text
\stoptext


This example works fine with MKII and with the texlive 2012 version of MKIV 
(ConTeXt ver: 2012.05.30 11:26). It fails with the last beta (2013.01.24 16:47 
MKIV) and also with 2012.11.22 14:55 MKIV.

I tried \setuphead[chapter][alternative=command,command=\ChapterHead]
and  \startchapter ... \stopchapter
but still get the same error.

You will find below the content of the log file produced by my minimal example.

Thanks for your help.




(/Users/jprey/ConTeXt-2013.01.24/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-yes.mkiv

ConTeXt  ver: 2013.01.24 16:47 MKIV  fmt: 2013.1.25  int: english/english

system   cont-new.mkiv loaded
(/Users/jprey/ConTeXt-2013.01.24/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
system   beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
)
system   files  jobname: test-setuphead, input: test-setuphead, 
result: test-setuphead
fontslatin modern fonts are not preloaded
languageslanguage en is active
(test-setuphead.tex{/Users/jprey/ConTeXt-2013.01.24/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/mkiv-base.map}
fontspreloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
fontstypescripts  unknown: library 'loc'
{/Users/jprey/ConTeXt-2013.01.24/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}{/Users/jprey/ConTeXt-2013.01.24/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}
fontsfallback modern rm 12pt is loaded

% begin of command line arguments
%
% noarrange= true
% input= ./test-setuphead.tex
% fulljobname  = ./test-setuphead.tex
% currentrun   = 1
% no-parse-first-line  = true
% arrange  = true
% script   = true
% synctex  = true
% kindofrun= 1
%
% end of command line arguments

% begin of command line files
%
% 1  ./test-setuphead.tex
%
% end of command line files

structuresectioning  chapter @ level 2: 0.1 - Hello
! Argument of \ChapterHead has an extra }.

system   tex  error on line 4 in file test-setuphead.tex: Argument of 
 ...

1 \def\ChapterHead#1#2{#1 --- #2}
2 \setuphead[chapter][command=\ChapterHead]
3 \starttext
4   \chapter{Hello}
5 Some text
6 \stoptext
7 

inserted text 
\par 
to be read again 
   }
\strc_rendering_inject_number_and_text ...ommand }
  \ifx \p_command \empty \di...
\strc_rendering_place_head_number_and_text ...ext 
  }\fi \strc_rendering_stop_...
\strc_sectioning_handle ...e_head_number_and_text 
  \else \strc_rendering_plac...
l.4 \chapter{Hello}
   
? 
! Emergency stop.

system   tex  error on line 4 in file test-setuphead.tex: Emergency 
stop ...

1 \def\ChapterHead#1#2{#1 --- #2}
2 \setuphead[chapter][command=\ChapterHead]
3 \starttext
4   \chapter{Hello}
5 Some text
6 \stoptext
7 

inserted text 
\par 
to be read again 
   }
\strc_rendering_inject_number_and_text ...ommand }
  \ifx \p_command \empty \di...
\strc_rendering_place_head_number_and_text ...ext 
  }\fi \strc_rendering_stop_...
\strc_sectioning_handle ...e_head_number_and_text 
  \else \strc_rendering_plac...
l.4 \chapter{Hello}
   
End of file on the terminal!

!  == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

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Re: [NTG-context] setuphead command ! Argument of \xxx has an extra }.

2013-01-25 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–01–25 Jean-Philippe Rey wrote:

 \def\ChapterHead#1#2{#1 --- #2}

\define[2]\ChapterHead{#1 --- #2}

or

\unexpanded\def\ChapterHead#1#2{#1 --- #2}

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Re: [NTG-context] Coming back to ConTeXt

2013-01-25 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote:
 Hi,

  I decided to give another try to ConTeXt.
  I already did two years ago, I think, but I had problems mostly because of
 the lack of documentation for MkIV.
  Having a more or less strong knowledge and experience of LaTeX doesn't
 help!!!

  This time:
  I did not succeed to install a stand alone version.

Tell us more about the specific problems.

  Following the discussions on ntg-context, there often is solution using one
 of hte latest version of ConTeXt, so I have a first question: is it possible
 to update the TeX Live ConTeXt and its associated files?

I would suggest you to do the following:
- Add tlcontrib to the list of repositories and update luatex and
ConTeXt from there (http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/usage.html).
- You can add the latest version of ConTeXt to texmf-local or
$TEXMFHOME (usually $HOME/texmf, but may be set to a different place)
or to some other place. You can clone a git repository
(https://gitorious.org/context) there for example (just make sure that
you don't use one extra directory).
- Apart from that you need to make sure that mtxrun will be taken from
the latest ConTeXt. There are different options to achieve that. (Add
$HOME/bin to PATH and put a symlink or copy of mtxrun there, or any
other option that comes to your mind.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] setuphead command ! Argument of \xxx has an extra }.

2013-01-25 Thread Jean-Philippe Rey

Le 25 janv. 2013 à 17:00, Marco Patzer a écrit :

 On 2013–01–25 Jean-Philippe Rey wrote:
 
 \def\ChapterHead#1#2{#1 --- #2}
 
 \define[2]\ChapterHead{#1 --- #2}
 
 or
 
 \unexpanded\def\ChapterHead#1#2{#1 --- #2}


It works. Thank you very much.

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Re: [NTG-context] Coming back to ConTeXt

2013-01-25 Thread Alain Delmotte

Hi,

Le 25/01/2013 17:14, Mojca Miklavec a écrit :

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote:

Hi,

  I decided to give another try to ConTeXt.
  I already did two years ago, I think, but I had problems mostly because of
the lack of documentation for MkIV.
  Having a more or less strong knowledge and experience of LaTeX doesn't
help!!!

  This time:
  I did not succeed to install a stand alone version.


Tell us more about the specific problems.


I did retry everything from the beginning and now it works.
One problem is that there is two bin folder and I was 
first pointing to the wrong one; after that I didn't see the 
context.exe and was trying to use mtxrun.

And of course I did add to the path.

So now it works from a standalone version. (up to date)




  Following the discussions on ntg-context, there often is solution using one
of hte latest version of ConTeXt, so I have a first question: is it possible
to update the TeX Live ConTeXt and its associated files?


I would suggest you to do the following:
- Add tlcontrib to the list of repositories and update luatex and
ConTeXt from there (http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/usage.html).


I did try this before reinstalling the standalone; but it 
was refused because there probably is a pointer to TeX Live 
2010 and I have 2012.



- You can add the latest version of ConTeXt to texmf-local or
$TEXMFHOME (usually $HOME/texmf, but may be set to a different place)
or to some other place. You can clone a git repository
(https://gitorious.org/context) there for example (just make sure that
you don't use one extra directory).
- Apart from that you need to make sure that mtxrun will be taken from
the latest ConTeXt. There are different options to achieve that. (Add
$HOME/bin to PATH and put a symlink or copy of mtxrun there, or any
other option that comes to your mind.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Some questions

2013-01-25 Thread Alain Delmotte

Hi,

Le 25/01/2013 15:47, Marco Patzer a écrit :

On 2013–01–25 Alain Delmotte wrote:

  - The example at the bottom of page 11 and page 12 gives me an
error:
  ! Argument of \head has an extra }.


\starttext
\startitemize
   \starthead kraamschudden\hfill (child welcoming) \stophead

[...]

 Abraham or a Sarah. Speculaas is a kind of hard spiced biscuit.
\stopitemize
\stoptext


Thanks, it works.




- The tables pages 30-31-32-35 are not at the right position on the
page, mostly they are to the right and not centered.


I did not try all example, but this seems to work here. Can you
provide a minimal example and say what you expect to be different?


In another example before, the locations for floats was 
changed to right and so all tables where to the right, 
except the last which had a location=left.



- The chemical formulae give an error (pages 37-38), but I'll come
back to that later on, but what is the manual about it?


Hans and Alan are in the process of completely re-writing the
chemical macros. I don't know the current state.


OK I'll wait


- The boxes on page 45, second example are not at the right
position, particularly the second is on the same line as the first.
\leftaligned
{\inframed[width=fit]{People in Hasselt}}
\midaligned
{\inframed[height=1.5cm,frame=off]{have a}}
\rightaligned
{\inframed[background=screen]{historic background}}


In MkIV there's a new syntax you can use:

\startlinealignment [left]
   \inframed[width=fit]{People in Hasselt}
\stoplinealignment

\startlinealignment [middle]
   \inframed[height=1.5cm,frame=on]{have a}
\stoplinealignment

\startlinealignment [right]
   \inframed[background=screen]{historic background}
\stoplinealignment

I did not investigate why the middle alignment is on the same line
as the left alignment and if that's intended or not.


OK, it works, but I do not get the result of the book, I'll 
investigate.




What are the up todate manuals for MkIV?


I'm afraid there are none (and probably never will be). The wiki
improved an awful lot during the last months, especially the command
reference. There's also the revised manual, tex.stackexchange and of
course the mailing list.


Waiting the book announced by Alan, I'll try to use the wiki 
and existing modified books.


Thanks a lot for your help,

Alain


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Re: [NTG-context] Cut-Space

2013-01-25 Thread Alain Delmotte

Hi,

Le 25/01/2013 13:30, Marco Patzer a écrit :

On 2013–01–25 H. Özoguz wrote:


How to add 3mm cut space (extra space) on all four edges?


You did not make yourself clear what exactly you want and where to
add the space. Here you find an (incomplete) overview of the page
layout dimensions:



I think what he mean is to have a size a little bit bigger 
than the required format, so one is sure that the page will 
be full.


Example, if you want an image to occupy the top of your page 
from one border of the paper to the other and touching the 
top edge, it is usual for a printer (the man not the 
machine) to have the image protruding left, top and right, 
so when one cut the paper one is sure that the image will 
not leave a tiny white space on one of the side.


Regards,

Alain


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Re: [NTG-context] Coming back to ConTeXt

2013-01-25 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote:

 I would suggest you to do the following:
 - Add tlcontrib to the list of repositories and update luatex and
 ConTeXt from there (http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/usage.html).

 I did try this before reinstalling the standalone; but it was refused
 because there probably is a pointer to TeX Live 2010 and I have 2012.

Set the repository to
http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2012
and make sure that you don't have ConTeXt distribution in PATH*** when
calling tlmgr.

Mojca


*** From purely theoretical point of view you may have it in path, but
after TeX Live binaries.
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Re: [NTG-context] Some questions

2013-01-25 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:17:38 +0100
Alain Delmotte espera...@swing.be wrote:

 Waiting the book announced by Alan

A manual *only* describing the chemical macros...
perhaps to be considered as a chapter of the official documentation...

Alan
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