Re: [NTG-context] [wiki] fake account spam
Hello,
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:19:41 +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz
thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote:
On 04/25/2013 07:31 PM, Sietse Brouwer wrote:
Hi Taco,
I think it's a good idea to update the security questions --- it's
easy to do, it'll probably work, and we can always move on to stronger
measures that require more work. Below are some replacemetn questions.
Yes, I had already contacted Mojca a couple of weeks ago. I think we
should demand that all questions be answered in Dutch. Every serious
ConTeXter has to know some Dutch,
even though I consider myself a serious Ctx user, Dutch is still Greek to me.
and nothing better than asking What
is the ConTeXt keyword for a two-sided layout and expecting
dubbelzijdig as an answer.
Goggle translator would help in this case
(http://translate.google.com/#en/nl/doublesided);
but having a more complicated keyword/option may mean a
unanswered/unanswerable question...
How about to prompt the user to encode a displayed math, e.g. b/a2^3 to be answered
$\frac{b}{a_2^3}$?
Best regards,
Lukas
If that doesn't help, we make them
pronounce it...
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] [wiki] fake account spam
On 04/26/2013 08:31 AM, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. wrote:
even though I consider myself a serious Ctx user, Dutch is still Greek
to me.
How about to prompt the user to encode a displayed math, e.g. b/a2^3
to be answered $\frac{b}{a_2^3}$?
Well, in that case, I'd actually prefer Greek - write line 222 of book
2 of the Odyssey in its original Greek, or something like that...
Seriously, I guess I'm not alone when I say I never use math.
But I agree something has to be done...
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Lettrine module not working?!
Am 25.04.2013 um 14:24 schrieb Verhaag, G.C.H.M. verhaagg...@ziggo.nl:
Hi ConTeXt User's,
I'm currently experiencing problems using the lettrine module! I know from
fairly recent (mail-archive!) issues related to this module but can't figure
out why my setup isn't working anymore.
I use the following:
\lettrine[Image=no,Slope=-0.5em,Hang=0.2,Findent=0.7em]
{H}{et is ca. half tien} in de...
This yields the following error message:
to be read again
\def
\doifnextoptionalelse #1#2 -\def
\m_syst_action_yes {#1}\def \m_syst_action_...
\doLettrineFont ...a \LettrineHeight \definedfont
[LettrineFont at \the \!!d...
\dolettrine ...trineEPS {#2}\else \doLettrineFont
#2\fi \fi }}\setbox \Lettr...
l.27 {H}{et is ca. half tien}
Maybe something has changed in the arguments of which I'm unaware!
Maybe this page helps you: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Initials
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] table formatting mystery
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Lance Larsen lance.c.lar...@gmail.com wrote: I created the following table, but I am running into a mysterious problem. When I include the text 'Geometry Calulations' in row 2, the table row expands as if this text takes up lines of text. However the text fits well within the cell length, and the text itself remains on one line. If I delete 'Geometry Calculations', the height of row 2 is the height of one line of text. How do I fix this? I have included snapshots of what I am getting with and without 'Geometry Calculations' included. Any help or insight is appreciated. \setupTABLE[c][1][width=0.16\textwidth] \setupTABLE[c][2,3,4][width=0.13\textwidth] \setupTABLE[c][5][width=0.20\textwidth, align=middle] \setupTABLE[c][6][width=0.25\textwidth, align=middle] \bTABLE[width=0.5\textwidth, rulethickness=0.5pt] \bTR \bTD[nc=2] \bf ~\cb Preliminary \cb Final\eTD \bTD[align=middle] \bf Revision \eTD \bTD[align=middle] X \eTD \bTD \bf Document ID \eTD \bTD \DocID \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD[nc=2] \bf ~Document Title: \eTD \bTD[nc=4,align=middle] Geometry Calculations \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD[nc=2] \bf ~Originating Discipline: \eTD \bTD[nc=4,align=middle] \OrigDisc \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD[nc=2] \bf ~Effective Date: \eTD \bTD[nc=3] \tfx ~\cb Approval Date \sp\sp\cb Other: \eTD \bTD Page~\pagenumber~of~\totalnumberofpages \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD \bf ~Issued for: \eTD \bTD[nc=5,align=middle] \tfx Phase 1 Design \cb\sp Phase 2 Design \cb\sp Phase 3 Design \cb\sp Input to DCD \cb\sp N/A \cb \eTD \eTR \eTABLE can you make an example without your own macros like \DocID, \OrigDisc etc. ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] table formatting mystery
Am 25.04.2013 um 17:02 schrieb Lance Larsen lance.c.lar...@gmail.com: I created the following table, but I am running into a mysterious problem. When I include the text 'Geometry Calulations' in row 2, the table row expands as if this text takes up lines of text. However the text fits well within the cell length, and the text itself remains on one line. If I delete 'Geometry Calculations', the height of row 2 is the height of one line of text. How do I fix this? I have included snapshots of what I am getting with and without 'Geometry Calculations' included. Any help or insight is appreciated. What happens when you change the height of the rows, e.g. “height=1.5\lineheight”. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [wiki] fake account spam
Hi, Currently we are using QuestyCaptcha w/ ConfirmEdit. This is definitely supposed to be safer than bitmap images unless the images become so complex that even humans get it wrong, which has happened for me on various sites and is the most annoying thing in, like, ever! I do not mind adding new questions and/or replacing all of them, but it is a bad idea to send the new ones to the mailing list, since somehow a spamnet seems to have found the answers and I doubt that they actually went to the trouble of looking up the answers on pragma-ade.com (but then again, weirder stuff has happened). For now, I will quickly invent some of my own questions. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
Hi Thomas, Am 25.04.2013 um 08:56 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de: On 04/25/2013 08:20 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote: First I think it better if ligatures should be off as a default. Then you should not be using any form of TeX. ligatures have been part of TeX since its invention (TeXbook, p. 4), and they have been part of fine typesetting since Gutenberg. It's a sad consequence of the advent of abominations like Microsoft Word that people consider them superfluous. I use XeLaTeX and ConText for it control. I have not touched Word in decades, if possible or any other WYSIWYG- system! That being said, take a look at the books printed in this day and age. You will find that the use ligatures are not that common. For me the fi-ligature, is estranging, as well as other while reading. Others I find very pleasing. I do not want to discuss esthetics. I was just expressing my opinion. If the engross of ConText users want ligatures as default that is fine with me. On the other side, I believe, ligatures of off by default in LaTeX, et al. or at least are feature is set when the font is loaded. Now, to my actual question. Is there a way in ConText to selectively true certain ligatures on/ff. for example fl could be on, but fi off. I know that I can set up the the editor to do it, or use unicode directly, but would prefer ConText to do the work. Opentype fonts put ligatures into certain groups, so turning fi off while keeping fl is a bit difficult. I think you could use a font goodies file and put a zero-width empty space between f and i. There's a file demo.lfg in the standalone distribution which might be of help. Thanx, for the pointer! Will look into it. regards Keith. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [wiki] fake account spam
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: For now, I will quickly invent some of my own questions. and the right answers will be given only to the physical people present at the next context meeting. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] table formatting mystery
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Lance Larsen lance.c.lar...@gmail.com wrote:
I created the following table, but I am running into a mysterious
problem. When I include the text 'Geometry Calulations' in row 2, the
table row expands as if this text takes up lines of text. However the
text fits well within the cell length, and the text itself remains on
one line. If I delete 'Geometry Calculations', the height of row 2 is
the height of one line of text. How do I fix this? I have included
snapshots of what I am getting with and without 'Geometry
Calculations' included. Any help or insight is appreciated.
\setupTABLE[c][1][width=0.16\textwidth]
\setupTABLE[c][2,3,4][width=0.13\textwidth]
\setupTABLE[c][5][width=0.20\textwidth, align=middle]
\setupTABLE[c][6][width=0.25\textwidth, align=middle]
\bTABLE[width=0.5\textwidth, rulethickness=0.5pt]
\bTR \bTD[nc=2] \bf ~\cb Preliminary \cb Final\eTD
\bTD[align=middle] \bf Revision \eTD \bTD[align=middle] X \eTD \bTD
\bf Document ID \eTD \bTD \DocID \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD[nc=2] \bf ~Document Title: \eTD \bTD[nc=4,align=middle]
Geometry Calculations \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD[nc=2] \bf ~Originating Discipline: \eTD
\bTD[nc=4,align=middle] \OrigDisc
\eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD[nc=2] \bf ~Effective Date: \eTD \bTD[nc=3] \tfx ~\cb
Approval Date \sp\sp\cb Other: \eTD \bTD
Page~\pagenumber~of~\totalnumberofpages \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD \bf ~Issued for: \eTD \bTD[nc=5,align=middle]
\tfx Phase 1 Design \cb\sp Phase 2 Design \cb\sp Phase 3 Design \cb\sp
Input to DCD \cb\sp N/A \cb \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
-Lance Larsen
\bTR \bTD[nc=2,style=bold,align={flushleft,lohi}] \hbox{~Document
Title} \eTD \bTD[nc=4,align=middle] Geometry Calculations \eTD \eTR
seems to fix the things.
--
luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
On 4/26/2013 9:41 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote: Hi Thomas, Am 25.04.2013 um 08:56 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de: On 04/25/2013 08:20 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote: First I think it better if ligatures should be off as a default. Then you should not be using any form of TeX. ligatures have been part of TeX since its invention (TeXbook, p. 4), and they have been part of fine typesetting since Gutenberg. It's a sad consequence of the advent of abominations like Microsoft Word that people consider them superfluous. I use XeLaTeX and ConText for it control. I have not touched Word in decades, if possible or any other WYSIWYG- system! That being said, take a look at the books printed in this day and age. You will find that the use ligatures are not that common. For me the fi-ligature, is estranging, as well as other while reading. Others I find very pleasing. I do not want to discuss esthetics. I was just expressing my opinion. If the engross of ConText users want ligatures as default that is fine with me. On the other side, I believe, ligatures of off by default in LaTeX, et al. or at least are feature is set when the font is loaded. I don't know, but as has been said, the defaults in context sort of fit in the expectations. We even have some traditional pseudo ligatures like -- and --- implemented, also because users expect them. Anyhow, if you put \definefontfeature[default][default][liga=no] in your local cont-sys.mkiv file you will have them off by default. There are multiple categories of ligatures. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 09:41:15AM +0200, Keith J. Schultz wrote: On the other side, I believe, ligatures of off by default in LaTeX, et al. or at least are feature is set when the font is loaded. So you neither use LaTeX nor ConTeXt? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupalign[flushleft] doesn't like ~
On 4/26/2013 2:26 AM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Dnia 2013-04-26, o godz. 01:45:37 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl napisał(a): On 4/26/2013 1:09 AM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: With \setupalign[flushleft], nonbreakable spaces get larger than they should. I'm afraid it's a bug. Best, An MWE: more info needed .. as this looks similar: [...] In both cases I get: 3.912pt+1.956pt-1.304pt 3.912pt but in the latter one, the space produced by ~ is noticeably wider. maybe you mean (non)frenchspacing \usemodule[ipsum] \showframe \starttext \setupalign[flushleft] \setupspacing[fixed] \ipsum \par \setupalign[flushleft] \setupspacing[packed] \ipsum \par \setupalign[flushleft] \setupspacing[broad] \ipsum \par \stoptext (defaults are language dependent) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [wiki] fake account spam
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:55:52 +0200 Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote: Well, in that case, I'd actually prefer Greek - write line 222 of book 2 of the Odyssey in its original Greek, or something like that... That's too easy: σῆμά τέ οἱ χεύω καὶ ἐπὶ κτέρεα κτερεΐξω :) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [wiki] fake account spam
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:52:56 +0200 Sietse Brouwer sbbrou...@gmail.com wrote: Or we could go old-school copy protection style: What is the fifth word on page 120 of the TeXbook? :-P \TEX Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [wiki] fake account spam
Am 26.04.2013 um 10:57 schrieb Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr: On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:52:56 +0200 Sietse Brouwer sbbrou...@gmail.com wrote: Or we could go old-school copy protection style: What is the fifth word on page 120 of the TeXbook? :-P \TEX Maybe \TeX\ but not \TEX\ which is a \CONTEXT\ command and not available with plain \TeX. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [wiki] fake account spam
On 4/26/2013 10:57 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:52:56 +0200 Sietse Brouwer sbbrou...@gmail.com wrote: Or we could go old-school copy protection style: What is the fifth word on page 120 of the TeXbook? :-P \TEX we could go for sound ... pronounce \TEX\ the right way .. only DEK could edit then Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] error: terminal: NOfTextColumns-1, ! Improper final value has been replaced by 0
On 4/24/2013 5:30 PM, Lars Huttar wrote:
Hello,
I'm encountering the following error, under ConTeXt ver: 2012.05.30
11:26 MKIV fmt: 2013.3.11 int: english/english:
system tex error on line 27 in file
data/three-volume-book-book-1.tex: terminal: NOfTextColumns-1
! Improper final value has been replaced by 0.
to be read again
:
* for i=1 upto NOfTextColumns-1:
draw (rightboundary TextColumns[i])
shif...
...
17 \safeinput ./data/statistics-for-area-area-africa.tex
18 \safeinput ./data/statistics-for-area-area-europe.tex
19
20
21
22 \input ./macros/E16pagenohead.tex
23 \ifodd \pageno \else \noheaderandfooterlines \null \page[yes]\fi
\noheade
randfooterlines
24
25 \startptp{
26 \pagereference[Languages]\pnum{Part II}\ptitle{Language Listings}
27 }\stopptp
This error is very odd because:
a) The only place I can find code mentioning NOfTextColumns-1 is in
mp-core.mpii, where it's commented out!
% \startuseMPgraphic{whatever}
% for i=1 upto NOfTextColumns-1 :
% draw (rightboundary TextColumns[i]) shifted ...
But maybe I just haven't been looking in the right places.
b) The place in my .tex document where the error occurs, line 27, is at
a \stopptp. Yet there is an essentially identical start/stopptp earlier
in the document, where no such error is thrown:
\startptp{
\pagereference[Summaries]\pnum{Part I}\ptitle{Statistical Summaries}
}\stopptp
So I guess there's some content in between the two starts/stop ptp's
that's laying the stage for the error to occur.
I'll be working on a minimal example, but that's time-consuming; and I
thought in the meantime, there may be some clues in the above
information that could help clarify the nature of the problem, to
someone who understands the inner workings of ConTeXt.
It took me a while to figure it out as NOfTextColumns is only used in
very special cases and long gone from context (it dates from a previous
background implementation). Normally the obsolete code is never seen but
in your case consulting the variable might be triggered by the fact that
multi_column_first_page_hack
is set to true (looks like a quick hack i made for Jelle long ago).
I commented it in the mkii source now, hopefully no error message any
longer.
Hans
ps. sometimes there is some specific test code that then depends on
other experimental code being present
ps. in mkiv it's all redone anyway and i will redo columnsets one of
these days too;
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[NTG-context] Heading in setuplayout from a variable
It is a long time since I used ConTeXt. I am starting again.
I have the following code:
\setvariables[meta][type=cecil]
\if\getvariable{meta}{type}=cecil
\setvariables[meta][
name={Cecil Westerhof},
]
\setvariables[layout][
header=0mm,
]
\fi
But that does not work.
For the conditional I also tried:
\ifx\getvariable{meta}{type}\cecil
But that does not work either.
What is the correct way to define the comparison?
--
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Re: [NTG-context] Heading in setuplayout from a variable
On 4/26/2013 1:27 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
It is a long time since I used ConTeXt. I am starting again.
I have the following code:
\setvariables[meta][type=cecil]
\if\getvariable{meta}{type}=cecil
\setvariables[meta][
name={Cecil Westerhof},
]
\setvariables[layout][
header=0mm,
]
\fi
But that does not work.
For the conditional I also tried:
\ifx\getvariable{meta}{type}\cecil
But that does not work either.
What is the correct way to define the comparison?
\doifelse {\getvariable{meta}{type}} {cecil} {
...
} {
...
}
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Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
Hi Khaled, When I used LaTeX last if I had fi in my text that is how it came out! Using ConTeXt I noticed that fi becomes a ligature, did not like, but it was not that important. Till I decided to start using ConTeXt I had been using XeLaTeX. regards Keith. Am 26.04.2013 um 10:20 schrieb Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org: On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 09:41:15AM +0200, Keith J. Schultz wrote: On the other side, I believe, ligatures of off by default in LaTeX, et al. or at least are feature is set when the font is loaded. So you neither use LaTeX nor ConTeXt? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fwd: Heading in setuplayout from a variable
Send to Hans instead of to the list. :-(
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From: Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com
Date: 2013/4/26
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Heading in setuplayout from a variable
To: Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
On 4/26/2013 1:27 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
It is a long time since I used ConTeXt. I am starting again.
I have the following code:
\setvariables[meta][type=cecil]
\if\getvariable{meta}{type}=cecil
\setvariables[meta][
name={Cecil Westerhof},
]
\setvariables[layout][
header=0mm,
]
\fi
But that does not work.
For the conditional I also tried:
\ifx\getvariable{meta}{type}\cecil
But that does not work either.
What is the correct way to define the comparison?
\doifelse {\getvariable{meta}{type}} {cecil} {
...
} {
...
}
Thanks. That works. In my case I use a \doif.
Is there also something like a switch statement? If not I could use a
nested \doifelse.
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Re: [NTG-context] Heading in setuplayout from a variable
2013/4/26 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com: I have the following code: \setvariables[meta][type=cecil] This variable is hard coded. Is it possible to set it with a value I send as a command line parameter? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Cumulating numbered lists
Sorry for the delay in responding—I lost a day in spring busywork. Anyway, warm thanks to Aditya for the workaround and to Hans for the new key (it works perfectly—and the name makes sense to me). I am grateful to you both. Alan On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 4/23/2013 10:31 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013, Alan Bowen wrote: OK. Thanks for the explanation, Wolfgang. I will await the day when the repeat key can be disabled. the day i do an upload If you are not interested in re-enabling the repeat key in a nested itemize, then the attached example may work (not tested beyond the minimal example) added .. (but with \v!norepeat ... not sure about the keyword, but it's hard to find a better one) Hans -- --**--**- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl --**--**- __**__** ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/** listinfo/ntg-context http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/**projects/contextrev/http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __**__** ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Heading in setuplayout from a variable
On 4/26/2013 2:35 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
2013/4/26 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
I have the following code:
\setvariables[meta][type=cecil]
This variable is hard coded. Is it possible to set it with a value I
send as a command line parameter?
\getdocumentargument{myargument}
of use modes (often more natural)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
On 4/26/2013 2:12 PM, Keith J. Schultz wrote: Hi Khaled, When I used LaTeX last if I had fi in my text that is how it came out! Using ConTeXt I noticed that fi becomes a ligature, did not like, but it was not that important. also keep in mind that ligatures are language dependent (if the font language is set at all) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Heading in setuplayout from a variable
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
On 4/26/2013 2:35 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
2013/4/26 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
I have the following code:
\setvariables[meta][type=cecil]
This variable is hard coded. Is it possible to set it with a value I
send as a command line parameter?
\getdocumentargument{myargument}
My first try did not work, but now it does. Properly made a silly
mistake somewhere.
of use modes (often more natural)
In this case it is not something to use, but it is certainly something
to look into.
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[NTG-context] How to know I am in frontmatter or bodymatter?
Sometimes, it is convenient if I know I am in frontmatter or bodymatter. when
desinging a book, we make a new chapter open at a right page and design the
header to show the chapter title and pagenumber. We have to set the pagenumber
at the page where a chapter title is located. \definetext [chapterstart]
[footer] [{\hfill\bf\pagenumber\hfill}]\setuphead [chapter]
[footer=chapterstart] if this book consists of a frontmatter and a backmatter,
I have to set the text for the titles in frontmatter and chapters in bodymatter
like this, for roman pagenumber in frontmatter.
\startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart] \definetext[titlestart]
[footer][{\hfill\bf\romannumerals\pagenumber\hfill}] \setuphead[title]
[footer=titlestart]\stopsectionblockenvironment
\startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart] \definetext[chapterstart]
[footer][{\hfill\bf\pagenumber\hfill}] \setuphead[chapter]
[footer=chapterstart]\stopsectionblockenvironment so, is there a command to
make me know if I am in frontmatter or bodymatter? if so, I can use only one
command to achieve that setup \definetext [chapterstart] [footer]
[{\hfill\bf\ifinfrontmatter ... \else ... \fi\hfill}] regards, Tim
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Re: [NTG-context] How to know I am in frontmatter or bodymatter?
On 4/26/2013 4:55 PM, Tim Li wrote:
Sometimes, it is convenient if I know I am in frontmatter or bodymatter. when
desinging a book, we make a new chapter open at a right page and design the
header to show the chapter title and pagenumber. We have to set the pagenumber
at the page where a chapter title is located. \definetext [chapterstart]
[footer] [{\hfill\bf\pagenumber\hfill}]\setuphead [chapter]
[footer=chapterstart] if this book consists of a frontmatter and a backmatter,
I have to set the text for the titles in frontmatter and chapters in bodymatter
like this, for roman pagenumber in frontmatter.
\startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart] \definetext[titlestart]
[footer][{\hfill\bf\romannumerals\pagenumber\hfill}] \setuphead[title]
[footer=titlestart]\stopsectionblockenvironment
\startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart] \definetext[chapterstart]
[footer][{\hfill\bf\pagenumber\hfill}] \setuphead[chapter]
[footer=chapterstart]\stopsectionblockenvironment so, is !
there a
command to make me know if I am in frontmatter or bodymatter? if so, I can use only one command to achieve that setup \definetext [chapterstart] [footer] [{\hfill\bf\ifinfrontmatter ... \else ... \fi\hfill}] regards, Tim
\startbodymatter
\doifmodeelse{*bodypart}{YES}{NOP}
\stopbodymatter
if check on \currentsectionblock
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[NTG-context] Why does startlines not work in a function
I have the following code:
\startlines
\startalignment[center]
\setupindenting[no]
\doifelse {\getvariable{meta}{personalInfo}} {long} {
longline 1
longline 2
longline 3
longline 4
longline 5
longline 6
longline 7
longline 8
} {
shortline 1
shortline 2
shortline 3
shortline 4
}
\stopalignment
\stoplines
I wanted to put this in a function. So I wrote:
\def\Foo{
\startlines
\startalignment[center]
\setupindenting[no]
\doifelse {\getvariable{meta}{personalInfo}} {long} {
longline 1
longline 2
longline 3
longline 4
longline 5
longline 6
longline 7
longline 8
} {
shortline 1
shortline 2
shortline 3
shortline 4
}
\stopalignment
\stoplines
}
But then the text becomes one line instead of several lines.
So I had to rewrite it to:
\def\FooTwo{
\startalignment[center]
\setupindenting[no]
\doifelse {\getvariable{meta}{personalInfo}} {long} {
longline 1
longline 2
longline 3
longline 4
longline 5
longline 6
longline 7
longline 8
} {
shortline 1
shortline 2
shortline 3
shortline 4
}
\stopalignment
}
I called it first Foo2, but that worked havoc on Foo.
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[NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script
I am using a command line parameter to change the generated output. Is it also possible to set the output file name depending on the parameter? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Supressing a heading from the table of contents
Can anyone tell me how to suppress individual numbered chapter/section/subsection/etc. from the table of contents? Also how do you set the last heading level included in the table of contents. I think I came across this, but am having trouble finding it again. Lance Larsen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script
On 4/26/2013 5:34 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: I am using a command line parameter to change the generated output. Is it also possible to set the output file name depending on the parameter? --result=somename - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Why does startlines not work in a function
On 4/26/2013 5:19 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
I have the following code:
...
But then the text becomes one line instead of several lines.
because catcode changes are involved
\startbuffer [meta:personalInfo:long]
\startlines
longline 1
longline 2
longline 3
longline 4
longline 5
longline 6
longline 7
longline 8
\stoplines
\stopbuffer
\startbuffer [meta:personalInfo:]
\startlines
shortline 1
shortline 2
shortline 3
shortline 4
\stoplines
\stopbuffer
\starttext
\getbuffer[meta:personalInfo:\getvariable{meta}{personalInfo}]
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
On 04/26/2013 09:41 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote: I use XeLaTeX and ConText for it control. I have not touched Word in decades, if possible or any other WYSIWYG- system! That being said, take a look at the books printed in this day and age. You will find that the use ligatures are not that common. For me the fi-ligature, is estranging, as well as other while reading. Others I find very pleasing. I do not want to discuss esthetics. I was just expressing my opinion. If the engross of ConText users want ligatures as default that is fine with me. On the other side, I believe, ligatures of off by default in LaTeX, et al. or at least are feature is set when the font is loaded. Hi Keith, if you look at the books of decent publishers, you will see that most of them still use ligatures (most American university presses, Oxford and Cambridge, German publishers such as Reclam etc.) However, many smaller publishers don't give a rat's ass about esthetics, and that's where Word comes into play: they have their authors deliver their manuscripts as Word files and simply typeset from that, more often than not by employing some underpaid and untrained contractors in India. Cuts costs and makes authors do all the work that publishers used to do in the olden days... Taking this as the norm is not a good idea. As to LaTeX: you're wrong, LaTeX is part of the TeX family as is ConTeXt and has ligatures. If you set up your fonts correctly in XeLaTeX, you get them. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: On 4/26/2013 5:34 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: I am using a command line parameter to change the generated output. Is it also possible to set the output file name depending on the parameter? --result=somename That is on the command line. Then you need to give two parameters. Not a very big problem, but I would prefer one parameter. I like DRY. Less that can go wrong. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script
On 4/26/2013 6:50 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: 2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: On 4/26/2013 5:34 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: I am using a command line parameter to change the generated output. Is it also possible to set the output file name depending on the parameter? --result=somename That is on the command line. Then you need to give two parameters. Not a very big problem, but I would prefer one parameter. I like DRY. Less that can go wrong. not possible but you can access the outputfilename at the tex and lua end Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: On 4/26/2013 6:50 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: 2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: On 4/26/2013 5:34 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: I am using a command line parameter to change the generated output. Is it also possible to set the output file name depending on the parameter? --result=somename That is on the command line. Then you need to give two parameters. Not a very big problem, but I would prefer one parameter. I like DRY. Less that can go wrong. not possible but you can access the outputfilename at the tex and lua end What do mean with that? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script
On 4/26/2013 7:01 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: 2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: On 4/26/2013 6:50 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: 2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: On 4/26/2013 5:34 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: I am using a command line parameter to change the generated output. Is it also possible to set the output file name depending on the parameter? --result=somename That is on the command line. Then you need to give two parameters. Not a very big problem, but I would prefer one parameter. I like DRY. Less that can go wrong. not possible but you can access the outputfilename at the tex and lua end What do mean with that? just grep for outputfile in lua and mkiv files Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
I don’t know what LaTeX you were using, but LaTeX does not and will not disable ligatures by default (there isn’t even a way in original TeX to disable ligatures globally, short of editing TFM files). Regards, Khaled On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 02:12:07PM +0200, Keith J. Schultz wrote: Hi Khaled, When I used LaTeX last if I had fi in my text that is how it came out! Using ConTeXt I noticed that fi becomes a ligature, did not like, but it was not that important. Till I decided to start using ConTeXt I had been using XeLaTeX. regards Keith. Am 26.04.2013 um 10:20 schrieb Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org: On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 09:41:15AM +0200, Keith J. Schultz wrote: On the other side, I believe, ligatures of off by default in LaTeX, et al. or at least are feature is set when the font is loaded. So you neither use LaTeX nor ConTeXt? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fwd: Is it possible to set the output file name in the script
Again to Hans instead of to the list. I ‘hate’ gmail.
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From: Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com
Date: 2013/4/26
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name
in the script
To: Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
On 4/26/2013 7:01 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
On 4/26/2013 6:50 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
On 4/26/2013 5:34 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
I am using a command line parameter to change the generated output. Is
it also possible to set the output file name depending on the
parameter?
--result=somename
That is on the command line. Then you need to give two parameters. Not
a very big problem, but I would prefer one parameter. I like DRY. Less
that can go wrong.
not possible but you can access the outputfilename at the tex and lua end
What do mean with that?
just grep for outputfile in lua and mkiv files
I have now (I need to use jobfilename, because I get an error when I
use outputfilename):
\def\outputfilename{\jobfilename -\getvariable{meta}{type}}
\def\outputfilenametwo{\jobfilename -\getvariable{meta}{type}}
When displaying outputfilenametwo I see that it is filled with the
correct value, but the output is still written to the same file.
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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script
2013/4/26 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
On 4/26/2013 7:01 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
On 4/26/2013 6:50 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
On 4/26/2013 5:34 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
I am using a command line parameter to change the generated output. Is
it also possible to set the output file name depending on the
parameter?
--result=somename
That is on the command line. Then you need to give two parameters. Not
a very big problem, but I would prefer one parameter. I like DRY. Less
that can go wrong.
not possible but you can access the outputfilename at the tex and lua end
What do mean with that?
just grep for outputfile in lua and mkiv files
I have now (I need to use jobfilename, because I get an error when I
use outputfilename):
\def\outputfilename{\jobfilename -\getvariable{meta}{type}}
\def\outputfilenametwo{\jobfilename -\getvariable{meta}{type}}
When displaying outputfilenametwo I see that it is filled with the
correct value, but the output is still written to the same file.
The following script does what I want:
#!/usr/bin/env bash
set -o errexit
set -o nounset
declare -r DEFAULT=cecil
declare -r DIR=${HOME}/Documenten/CV
declare -r FILE=CV-Cecil-Westerhof
declare -r SCRIPTNAME=$(basename ${0})
declare RESULT
declare TYPE
if [[ ${#} -ge 1 ]] ; then
TYPE=${1}; shift
else
TYPE=${DEFAULT}
fi
readonly TYPE
if [[ ${#} -ne 0 ]] ; then
echo USAGE: ${SCRIPTNAME} [TYPE]
exit 1
fi
cd ${DIR}
RESULT=${FILE}
if [[ ${TYPE} != ${DEFAULT} ]] ; then
RESULT+=-${TYPE}
fi
readonly RESULT
context --CVType=${TYPE} --result=${RESULT} CV-Cecil-Westerhof
There is only one problem. If I first generate the default one and
after that a specific one, the default one does not exist anymore. I
suppose that when --result is used, first the pdf with the same name
as the tex file is generated and then moved. A little nuisance, but I
can live with it.
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Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
Hi Khaled, to be honest I never noticed them when I was using LaTeX. It might have been the fonts. I can live with them being on as a default in ConTeXt and know now how to turn them off. regards Keith. Am 26.04.2013 um 20:27 schrieb Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org: I don’t know what LaTeX you were using, but LaTeX does not and will not disable ligatures by default (there isn’t even a way in original TeX to disable ligatures globally, short of editing TFM files). Regards, Khaled ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
Am 26.04.2013 um 18:43 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de: Hi Keith, if you look at the books of decent publishers, you will see that most of them still use ligatures (most American university presses, Oxford and Cambridge, German publishers such as Reclam etc.) However, many smaller publishers don't give a rat's ass about esthetics, and that's where Word comes into play: they have their authors deliver their manuscripts as Word files and simply typeset from that, more often than not by employing some underpaid and untrained contractors in India. Cuts costs and makes authors do all the work that publishers used to do in the olden days... Taking this as the norm is not a good idea. As to LaTeX: you're wrong, LaTeX is part of the TeX family as is ConTeXt and has ligatures. If you set up your fonts correctly in XeLaTeX, you get them. Hi Thomas, I never said that they do not have ligatures. I never said XeLaTeX does not have the ability to use them I have read the fontspec manual! What I do not understand is why you rant to me about Words inabilities! I never mentioned before you did!! It is a shame that when one states an opinion that others dislike or do not agree with one is pushed into a corner which had absolutely nothing to do with one post. For me this discussion has gone far enough. regards Keith ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
Greetings, Keith, Thomas, and all, On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:43:59 -0600, Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote: if you look at the books of decent publishers, you will see that most of them still use ligatures (most American university presses, Oxford and Cambridge, German publishers such as Reclam etc.) However, many smaller publishers don't give a rat's ass about esthetics, and that's where Word comes into play: they have their authors deliver their manuscripts as Word files and simply typeset from that, more often than not by employing some underpaid and untrained contractors in India. Cuts costs and makes authors do all the work that publishers used to do in the olden days... Taking this as the norm is not a good idea. The situation Thomas is describing is analogous to what happened 40 years ago: When metal-based typesetting started to die out, what came after was atrocious but ubiquitous. And that's _exactly_ why Knuth invented TeX! As a general rule: High-quality typesetting with good fonts and the ligatures off is like pouring fine wine into a plastic cup. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script
2013/4/26 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
The following script does what I want:
#!/usr/bin/env bash
set -o errexit
set -o nounset
declare -r DEFAULT=cecil
declare -r DIR=${HOME}/Documenten/CV
declare -r FILE=CV-Cecil-Westerhof
declare -r SCRIPTNAME=$(basename ${0})
declare RESULT
declare TYPE
if [[ ${#} -ge 1 ]] ; then
TYPE=${1}; shift
else
TYPE=${DEFAULT}
fi
readonly TYPE
if [[ ${#} -ne 0 ]] ; then
echo USAGE: ${SCRIPTNAME} [TYPE]
exit 1
fi
cd ${DIR}
RESULT=${FILE}
if [[ ${TYPE} != ${DEFAULT} ]] ; then
RESULT+=-${TYPE}
fi
readonly RESULT
context --CVType=${TYPE} --result=${RESULT} CV-Cecil-Westerhof
There is only one problem. If I first generate the default one and
after that a specific one, the default one does not exist anymore. I
suppose that when --result is used, first the pdf with the same name
as the tex file is generated and then moved. A little nuisance, but I
can live with it.
That can be solved by renaming the tex-file to CV.tex. The script is now:
#!/usr/bin/env bash
set -o errexit
set -o nounset
declare -r DEFAULT=cecil
declare -r DIR=${HOME}/Documenten/CV
declare -r FILE=CV
declare -r SCRIPTNAME=$(basename ${0})
declare RESULT=CV-Cecil-Westerhof
declare TYPE
if [[ ${#} -ge 1 ]] ; then
TYPE=${1}; shift
else
TYPE=${DEFAULT}
fi
readonly TYPE
if [[ ${#} -ne 0 ]] ; then
echo USAGE: ${SCRIPTNAME} [TYPE]
exit 1
fi
cd ${DIR}
if [[ ${TYPE} != ${DEFAULT} ]] ; then
RESULT+=-${TYPE}
fi
readonly RESULT
context --CVType=${TYPE} --result=${RESULT} ${FILE}
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Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
On 04/26/2013 10:05 PM, Keith J. Schultz wrote: I never said that they do not have ligatures. I never said XeLaTeX does not have the ability to use them I have read the fontspec manual! You wrote: On the other side, I believe, ligatures of off by default in LaTeX which is wrong. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. What I do not understand is why you rant to me about Words inabilities! I never mentioned before you did!! Then read my message again. It is not a rant. It points out that Word is the reason why some people consider ligatures unusual. It is a shame that when one states an opinion that others dislike or do not agree with one is pushed into a corner which had absolutely nothing to do with one post. You were the one who has been using ConTeXt for a couple of days and declares First I think it better if ligatures should be off as a default. As a rule, it is considered good style to gain some knowledge before you give such general advice. For me this discussion has gone far enough. Quite so. The words I was wrong seem to be a bit difficult for some people. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script
On Fri, Apr 26 2013, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
The following script does what I want:
Or shorter:
--8---cut here---start-8---
#!/usr/bin/env bash
context --result=cv-${1:-cecil} CV-Cecil-Westerhof
--8---cut here---end---8---
In CV-Cecil-Westerhof.tex you can check the result file:
--8---cut here---start-8---
\starttext
output file: \systemparameter{file} or \cldcontext{document.arguments.result}
\stoptext
--8---cut here---end---8---
There is only one problem. If I first generate the default one and
after that a specific one, the default one does not exist anymore.
A known bug: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2008/035125.html
You could add it to the tracker: http://tracker.luatex.org/
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Re: [NTG-context] Why does startlines not work in a function
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
On 4/26/2013 5:19 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
I have the following code:
...
But then the text becomes one line instead of several lines.
because catcode changes are involved
\startbuffer [meta:personalInfo:long]
\startlines
longline 1
longline 2
longline 3
longline 4
longline 5
longline 6
longline 7
longline 8
\stoplines
\stopbuffer
\startbuffer [meta:personalInfo:]
\startlines
shortline 1
shortline 2
shortline 3
shortline 4
\stoplines
\stopbuffer
\starttext
\getbuffer[meta:personalInfo:\getvariable{meta}{personalInfo}]
\stoptext
Works. Thanks.
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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script
2013/4/26 Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr:
On Fri, Apr 26 2013, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
The following script does what I want:
Or shorter:
--8---cut here---start-8---
#!/usr/bin/env bash
context --result=cv-${1:-cecil} CV-Cecil-Westerhof
--8---cut here---end---8---
Nope, when the parameter is cecil, I want to add nothing. Also I am a
little paranoid, so I want the script to not execute when there are to
many parameters.
There is only one problem. If I first generate the default one and
after that a specific one, the default one does not exist anymore.
A known bug: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2008/035125.html
You could add it to the tracker: http://tracker.luatex.org/
I already went around it. But it would not hurt to report it.
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[NTG-context] Defined and not defined and better be done global
When running ConTeXt I see a lot of this kind of messages: fontsbodyfont 15pt is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 1.25em is not defined fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 15pt is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 1.25em is not defined fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 15pt is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 1.25em is not defined What am I doing wrong? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
to be honest I never noticed them when I was using LaTeX. It might have been
the fonts.
Someone had to show me the first ligature years ago and when he did
that, I had to check every single book and document I had at hand to
check if ligatures were really commonly used. I simply couldn't
believe my eyes and the fact that it took me some 15 years of literacy
and a couple of years of using TeX without ever noticing any ligature
anywhere.
I consider this (the fact that one doesn't notice it) part of a good
design. It's similar with kerning: one doesn't notice it until/unless
it's bad. It's similar in the kitchen also. One doesn't notice that
there is salt in food unless there's too little or too much of it
present.
Mojca
PS: if you really hate the ligatures, you can try to help improve this
interesting package to handle ligatures (it probably has the most
potential in engines other than XeTeX/LuaTeX because it's a bit more
complicated to turn off the ligatures there):
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/serbian-lig
The package defines commands for all the words from a dictionary which
contain letters fi, for example
\def\profit{prof\kern 0.03em it\xspace}
\def\Gadafi{Gadaf\kern 0.03em i\xspace}
% \stopsarcasm
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Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
On 4/26/2013 11:48 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
to be honest I never noticed them when I was using LaTeX. It might have been
the fonts.
Someone had to show me the first ligature years ago and when he did
that, I had to check every single book and document I had at hand to
check if ligatures were really commonly used. I simply couldn't
believe my eyes and the fact that it took me some 15 years of literacy
and a couple of years of using TeX without ever noticing any ligature
anywhere.
ha, and then you started recognizing tex docs by abundant use of frames
around tables and, emdashes, funny logos with lowered and raised
characters, and ...
btw, i have something similar with metapost: once you notice how precise
mp is, you also notice how imprecise most other vector graphics are
I consider this (the fact that one doesn't notice it) part of a good
design. It's similar with kerning: one doesn't notice it until/unless
it's bad. It's similar in the kitchen also. One doesn't notice that
but i assume, as you were involved in lucida ot, that you know that this
font has no kerns ..
(i remember seeing a monotype type one times that was advertized as
being very good because it had 4000+ kerning pairs .. on one of those
expensive sun-workstation typesetting systems that in the meantime
disappeared)
(already for years i wonder that when printing from firefox etc it looks
like the kerns are put on the wrong side of the glyphs)
there is salt in food unless there's too little or too much of it
present.
the opposite is true for hz and protrusion ... it takes a while to
believe that tex can do a bad job when these are applied extremely and
when applied less extreme one doesn't notice so i find myself never
using it
there's some similarity is discussions about typography and high end
audio (esp dacs and amps) ... one can go to real extremes but at some
point wishful thinking enters the equation
honestly ... we cannot guarantee that texies will recognize 100% of the
texts typeset by tex, given that one uses a non-lm font and non-standard
layout setup
or: when you see a tex typeset in lm and with some standard latex style
that has been around for decades, it can trigger an 'ah it looks good'
felling simply because one *knows* it has been done by tex
nowadays when i read some novel with excessive expansion, inter
character spacing and whatever, i always doubt it has been done by a
badly configured in-design or equally bad configured tex
Mojca
PS: if you really hate the ligatures, you can try to help improve this
interesting package to handle ligatures (it probably has the most
potential in engines other than XeTeX/LuaTeX because it's a bit more
complicated to turn off the ligatures there):
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/serbian-lig
The package defines commands for all the words from a dictionary which
contain letters fi, for example
\def\profit{prof\kern 0.03em it\xspace}
\def\Gadafi{Gadaf\kern 0.03em i\xspace}
% \stopsarcasm
whow .. it probably dates from the time before we had scripting
languages that could parse text, although in that time tex's hash
table/string space was too small to accomodate dictionaries
pdftex has \noligs -)
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Re: [NTG-context] Defined and not defined and better be done global
On 4/26/2013 10:43 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: When running ConTeXt I see a lot of this kind of messages: fontsbodyfont 15pt is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 1.25em is not defined fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 15pt is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 1.25em is not defined fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 15pt is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global) fontsbodyfont 1.25em is not defined What am I doing wrong? switching a bodyfont with an undefined bodyfontenvironment inside a group, which is very inefficient (and a 1.5em bodyfont switch can probably better be replaced by a direct font definition) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
On 4/26/2013 10:17 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: ...It points out that Word is the reason why some people consider ligatures unusual. thinking of it: one reason why a general purpose word processor used by people with no idea about things like ligatures, is that ligatures are language dependent, something that is taken care of in opentype, which makes me wonder how many users actually use those properties ... it would make a nice thread to get some insight into these matters (usefulness, demand for more control - like selectively turning them off, which is not undoable) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:16:42AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: On 4/26/2013 11:48 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: I consider this (the fact that one doesn't notice it) part of a good design. It's similar with kerning: one doesn't notice it until/unless it's bad. It's similar in the kitchen also. One doesn't notice that but i assume, as you were involved in lucida ot, that you know that this font has no kerns .. Which shows what an excellent job Bigelow Holmes did in designing and spacing the glyphs, and it is also one of the few typefaces that does not even need f-ligatures :) nowadays when i read some novel with excessive expansion, inter character spacing and whatever, i always doubt it has been done by a badly configured in-design or equally bad configured tex I have seen a couple of those books with excessive use of expansion, you notice it at glance and it becomes very irritating, so I now avoid expansion altogether (the books were in Arabic, so most probably it was InDesign). Regards, Khaled ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
