Re: [NTG-context] Conditional float references
On 2013–09–25 Otared Kavian wrote:
I have not yet tried it with references to maths formulas,
theorems, lemmas and such,
Me neither.
\ifsinglesided
\strc_references_do_relative_else\plusone
{\def\strc_references_smart_string{\labeltext\v!nextpage}}
{\strc_references_do_relative_else\minusone
The issues I noticed are the following:
1. Typesetting the file gives an error message when there is no
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
A typo:
\ifsinglesided
\strc_references_do_relative_else\plusone
{\def\strc_references_smart_string{\labeltext\v!nextpage}}
- {\strc_references_do_relative\minusone
+ {\strc_references_do_relative_else\minusone
2. In the above minimal example, when stating
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
then Test 2 and Test 3 do not result in the smart references
expected (they both result in « See figure 1 and figure 3. » while
Test 2 should give « See figure 1 and figure 3 on next page. »,
and Test 3 should result in « See figure 1 on previous page and
figure 3. »).
That's on purpose. If the graphic appears on the same double page,
it is visible and no further reference is printed. In traditional
typesetting a single page is rather insignificant. The reader is
always faced with double pages, never single pages.
Thanks again for sharing your module.
Well, it wasn't meant to be a module. I rather intended to start a
discussion and threw some code in to start with. If there's interest
I can make it a module.
Thanks for the feedback.
Marco
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[NTG-context] Wrong spacing using stretch effect
Hi,
the stretch effect does not take the final width of the string into
account. Is this a bug or a limitation? Example:
\starttext
(\effect[stretch]{fftabc})\par %% “c” collides with “)”
(\kerncharacters[.05]fftabc)%% no collision
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Conditional float references
Hi Marco,
Thanks for your answer: indeed I was wrong about the issue I reported about
doublesided page numbering. The reason is that I use TeXShop (on a Mac) and the
PDF produced is shown in a single page layout (it is however possible to have
doublesided layout as well: that's what I tested after your answer.
Also after applying your patch everything works as expected. I tested your file
with some maths formulas and changed even the language to French with:
\unprotect
\setuplabeltext
[\s!fr]
[\v!atpage=page\nobreakspace, %% “at page” sounds weird
\v!previouspage=à la page précédente,
\v!nextpage=à la page suivante]
\protect
\mainlanguage[fr]
without any problem. So your macro is just wonderful!
However maybe it would be better to have some setup options like:
\setuplabeltext[smartref][atpage={page},
previouspage={à la page précédente}, %or {page
précédente}
nextpage={à la page suivante}] %or {page suivante}
In case Hans is willing to add such capabilities to the cross referencing, it
would be great if one could setup the cross references in the same way by
saying for instance
\setupreferencing[alternative=smartref]
and then have \smartref be defined automatically.
A final remark concerns the possibility to visualize the reference points when
one is in the process of proof reading: at least in maths, it is usual to have
dozens of reference points to formulas, lemmas, theorems, etc, and it is quite
useful to be able to visualize such things. For instance I use a quick and
dirty macro to print in the margin « eq:Fermat » to the right of the following
formula
\placeformula[eq:Fermat]
\startformula
a,b,c \in {\Bbb N}^*, \quad n \geq 3, \quad a^n + b^n = c^n \imply abc = 0.
\stopformula
when I am preparing a paper. I do the same with references to lemmas and
theorems, but I print them in the margin to the left of the reference point.
For now, mkiv does not support such things and it's a pity.
Best regards: OK
On 25 sept. 2013, at 09:29, Marco Patzer li...@homerow.info wrote:
On 2013–09–25 Otared Kavian wrote:
I have not yet tried it with references to maths formulas,
theorems, lemmas and such,
Me neither.
\ifsinglesided
\strc_references_do_relative_else\plusone
{\def\strc_references_smart_string{\labeltext\v!nextpage}}
{\strc_references_do_relative_else\minusone
The issues I noticed are the following:
1. Typesetting the file gives an error message when there is no
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
A typo:
\ifsinglesided
\strc_references_do_relative_else\plusone
{\def\strc_references_smart_string{\labeltext\v!nextpage}}
- {\strc_references_do_relative\minusone
+ {\strc_references_do_relative_else\minusone
2. In the above minimal example, when stating
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
then Test 2 and Test 3 do not result in the smart references
expected (they both result in « See figure 1 and figure 3. » while
Test 2 should give « See figure 1 and figure 3 on next page. »,
and Test 3 should result in « See figure 1 on previous page and
figure 3. »).
That's on purpose. If the graphic appears on the same double page,
it is visible and no further reference is printed. In traditional
typesetting a single page is rather insignificant. The reader is
always faced with double pages, never single pages.
Thanks again for sharing your module.
Well, it wasn't meant to be a module. I rather intended to start a
discussion and threw some code in to start with. If there's interest
I can make it a module.
Thanks for the feedback.
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] error when installing ConTeXt Standalone
On 09/25/2013 12:01 AM, Mica Semrick wrote: Have you added the bin directory to your PATH? No, I invoke source tex/setuptex, which does the same job. Pablo On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: Dear list, I have installed a system-wide ConTeXt Standalone in Fedora 19, following the instructions from the wiki. But when I try to rebuild the font cache, I get the following error (with option verbose): resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'font-otp.lua'cannot open : No such file or directory I don’t know what I’m doing wrong, but I get the error as root also. Could anyone tell me what it’s wrong here? Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] bug with font
Hello, I update my ConTeXt setup about every couple of weeks. I use Ubuntu font in some of my documents. My setup from 2013-09-11 was selecting the specified fonts correctly. However my setup from 2013-09-25 (today) selects Ubuntu Light when I specify just Ubuntu. When I specifically ask it to use Ubuntu Regular, it forces this weight everywhere (including places where I specify \em). I have attached a minimal example and sample PDF and log files from both versions. Best regards, Prashanth demo-20130911.tgz Description: GNU Zip compressed data demo-20130925.tgz Description: GNU Zip compressed data ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] question about linespace adjustment
On 9/24/2013 5:25 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013, Lars Huttar wrote:
environment), and the second category only affects the font (and I'm
still not clear on how the body font differs from the current font).
(Sorry for the terse replies...)
{\switchtobodyfont[14pt] Text $math$ \sans{Sans} \endgraf}
{\tfc Text $math$ \sans{Sans} \endgraf}
Aditya
I don't know how this answers the above question. Can anybody explain?
Clearly you're drawing a comparison between \switchtobodyfont[14pt] and
\tfc.
I've run the sample, and I see that, as in other samples earlier in this
thread, \switchtobodyfont causes the interlinespace to be adjusted
accordingly, and \tfc doesn't.
Is that intended to be an answer to 'how the body font differs from
the current font'? And is the answer that the bodyfont is a conglomerate
of more properties than just the font, including interlinespace?
Thanks,
Lars
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Re: [NTG-context] error when installing ConTeXt Standalone
Maybe you need to specify the installation directory or issue tex/setuptex from inside the install folder? font-opt.lua should be in install folder/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base John On 09/25/2013 12:01 AM, Mica Semrick wrote: Have you added the bin directory to your PATH? No, I invoke source tex/setuptex, which does the same job. Pablo On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Pablo Rodr?guez wrote: Dear list, I have installed a system-wide ConTeXt Standalone in Fedora 19, following the instructions from the wiki. But when I try to rebuild the font cache, I get the following error (with option verbose): resolvers | resolving | remembering file 'font-otp.lua'cannot open : No such file or directory I don?t know what I?m doing wrong, but I get the error as root also. Could anyone tell me what it?s wrong here? Many thanks for your help, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] error when installing ConTeXt Standalone
On 09/25/2013 10:21 PM, John Kitzmiller wrote: Maybe you need to specify the installation directory or issue tex/setuptex from inside the install folder? font-opt.lua should be in install folder/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base Well, that’s exactly what the following command does (at least, it works for me in a local installation, but not system-wide): $ source tex/setuptex Setting /opt/ctxbeta/tex as ConTeXt root. It worked with Fedora 16, but after installing Fedora 19 it doesn’t work. Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] error when installing ConTeXt Standalone
$ source tex/setuptex Do you do that as root? You probably need to add it to something like /etc/bashrc or the like... it sounds like you don't have permission/your shell isn't getting the right path... On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Pablo Rodríguez oi...@web.de wrote: On 09/25/2013 10:21 PM, John Kitzmiller wrote: Maybe you need to specify the installation directory or issue tex/setuptex from inside the install folder? font-opt.lua should be in install folder/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base Well, that’s exactly what the following command does (at least, it works for me in a local installation, but not system-wide): $ source tex/setuptex Setting /opt/ctxbeta/tex as ConTeXt root. It worked with Fedora 16, but after installing Fedora 19 it doesn’t work. Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] question about linespace adjustment
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Lars Huttar lars_hut...@sil.org wrote:
And is the answer that the bodyfont is a conglomerate
of more properties than just the font, including interlinespace?
You can read font-ini.mkvi :
%D \macros
%D {setupbodyfont,switchtobodyfont}
%D
%D The next two macros are user ones. With \type{\setupbodyfont}
%D one can set the document bodyfont size, font family, style
%D and/or options defined in files, for example:
%D
%D \starttyping
%D \setupbodyfont[modern,12pt,roman]
%D \stoptyping
%D
%D This command affects the document as a whole: text, headers
%D and footers. The second macro however affects only the text:
%D
%D \starttyping
%D \switchtobodyfont[10pt]
%D \stoptyping
%D
%D So we've got:
%D
%D \showsetup{setupbodyfont}
%D \showsetup{switchtobodyfont}
%D
%D Both macros look alike. The second one also has to take
%D all kind of keywords into account.
If you follow switchtobodyfont you can see
unexpanded\def\font_basics_switchtobodyfont#specification%
{\edef\m_font_step{\bodyfontvariable{#specification}}%
\ifx\m_font_step\empty
\font_helpers_set_font\zerocount{#specification}%
\else
\font_helpers_switch_bodyfont_step % so we have a fast [small] switch
\fi
\the\everybodyfont
\the\everyswitchtobodyfont}
\unexpanded\def\switchtobodyfont[#specification]% could become an ifx
{\doifsomething{#specification}{\font_basics_switchtobodyfont{#specification}}}
The token register \everybodyfont and
\everyswitchtobodyfont take care for spaces:
(still in font-ini.mkvi)
%D {everybodyfont,Everybodyfont,everyglobalbodyfont}
%D
%D Every change in bodyfont size has conseqences for the baseline
%D distance and skips between paragraphs. These are initialized
%D in other modules. Here we only provide the hooks that
%D garantees their handling.
%D At the system level one can initialize thing like:
%D
%D \starttyping
%D \appendtoks \setupspacing \to \everybodyfont
%D \stoptyping
In core-def.mkiv
\appendtoks
\synchronizelocallinespecs
\to \everyswitchtobodyfont
while spac-ver.mkiv
\unexpanded\def\synchronizelocallinespecs
{\bodyfontlineheight \normallineheight
\bodyfontstrutheight\strutheight
\bodyfontstrutdepth \strutdepth}
--
luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] question about linespace adjustment
Am 25.09.2013 um 21:54 schrieb Lars Huttar lars_hut...@sil.org:
On 9/24/2013 5:25 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013, Lars Huttar wrote:
environment), and the second category only affects the font (and I'm
still not clear on how the body font differs from the current font).
(Sorry for the terse replies...)
{\switchtobodyfont[14pt] Text $math$ \sans{Sans} \endgraf}
{\tfc Text $math$ \sans{Sans} \endgraf}
Aditya
I don't know how this answers the above question. Can anybody explain?
Clearly you're drawing a comparison between \switchtobodyfont[14pt] and
\tfc.
I've run the sample, and I see that, as in other samples earlier in this
thread, \switchtobodyfont causes the interlinespace to be adjusted
accordingly, and \tfc doesn't.
Is that intended to be an answer to 'how the body font differs from
the current font'? And is the answer that the bodyfont is a conglomerate
of more properties than just the font, including interlinespace?
You can’t expect from \tfa etc. to change the interlinespace because these
commands can be used in your paragraphs to change the size of certain
words only and in this case you don’t want a forced change of the
interlinespace.
To adapt the interlinespace when you now use \tfa etc. you have to add
\setupinterlinespace to your code (arguments aren’t needed) to tell context
to recalculate it.
example
\setuppapersize[A3]
\starttext
% Standard text size
\begingroup
\input ward
\endgroup
\blank
% Bigger font size with standard linespacing
\begingroup \tfd
\the\bodyfontsize
\input ward
\endgroup
\blank
% Bigger font size with adapted linespacing
\begingroup \tfd \setupinterlinespace
\input ward
\endgroup
\blank
% Larger bodyfont
\begingroup \switchtobodyfont[25pt]
\input ward
\endgroup
\stoptext
/example
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] question about linespace adjustment
Wolfgang, thanks for your response. On 9/25/2013 5:02 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: You can’t expect from \tfa etc. to change the interlinespace because these commands can be used in your paragraphs to change the size of certain words only and in this case you don’t want a forced change of the interlinespace. Well... \switchtobodyfont[20pt] can also be used in paragraphs to change the size of just a few words. But the above suggests that \switchtobodyfont shouldn't be used for that purpose, and commands like \tfc should? To adapt the interlinespace when you now use \tfa etc. you have to add \setupinterlinespace to your code (arguments aren’t needed) to tell context to recalculate it. Thank you. What I'm trying to learn now is *why* that's true. Or more precisely, where is the boundary between the font-changing commands that automatically adjust interlinespace, and those commands that don't? and what is the conceptual model that motivates the boundary, and helps users remember and predict where the boundary lies? What I think I'm hearing is that \switchtobodyfont is intended for changes of longer duration, say, at least a paragraph. Whereas \tfa and so on are intended for brief changes, to set off a phrase, for example. As an example of where's the boundary, experimentation shows that \setsmallbodyfont is in the same category as \switchtobodyfont: it automatically affects the interlinespace. Nevertheless I can't find anywhere in the manual or on the wiki that tells me that \setsmallbodyfont differs from \tx in this way (let alone *why* it differs). Maybe I should expect that any command that has bodyfont in its name is intended for long-term changes, and other commands aren't? Sorry if I'm being slow on the uptake. Documentation like http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/switchtobodyfont just doesn't seem to explain this difference in intention. Thanks again. I do hope to use this experience to contribute clarifications to the manual. I've already done that some on the wiki (hoping that if I get it wrong, someone will correct my mistakes!) Lars ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] error when installing ConTeXt Standalone
On 25.09.2013 22:50, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: It worked with Fedora 16, but after installing Fedora 19 it doesn’t work. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/83357 Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
