[NTG-context] Context meeting 8 in Bassenge-Poires
Good evening! The next Context meeting (nr 8) will be held from 8 september until 13 september in Bassenge-Poires (Belgium). This place is situated in a beautiful valley between Liège and Maastricht. We will reside in a castle like building and wil have all the premises to our disposition. In september we expect still nice weather and fine temperatures. With other words it is the most suitable place to hold the Context-meeting! In addition to getting your questions answered, the meeting is the perfect place to discuss current and future developments. In that respect: don't hesitate to bring up topics! The sooner the better (so that they can be announced and prepared). Please consider to join the community at this unique place. - If you register quickly you still can register as an early bird. If you are a first-time attendee you will get an extra discount! Please check-out the meeting’s website at http://meeting.contextgarden.net/. We hope to see you in Bassenge and we are looking forward to cook together… Kind regards Will Egger Secretary CG___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Bibliography: only surname in small caps
Dear list, I would like to have in a bibliography only surnames in small capitals, like this: MÜLLER, B. and SCHNEIDER A. (Müller and Schneider appear in small caps, but everything else like and is still in the default typeface.) At the moment, I'm using the old bibliography system. I am a bit overwhelmed by the new system, because I would have to setup everything from the beginning, as I have setup my layouts with \setuppublicationlayout. Now my questions are: Is it possible to achieve what I want (SC surnames) with the old and the new system? If I would do it with the old system, am I right that I would have to redefine \normalauthor or define my own authorcommand? How could it be done with the new system? I've tried to understand the file publ-imp-apa.mkvi, but there's only an author value, and I don't understand how to access the name components (first name, last name etc.). Thanks and kind regards, Joshua ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] win2k and context
Just curious: is that the latest version that works according to your tests or did you actually try just this one? The next version available in https://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/?group_id=10 is 0.74.0 and didn't work. I don't know if there are versions between? Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bibliography tool
Le 29 juin à 16:07:20 Gour g...@atmarama.net écrit notamment: | Just a note that I've found the desired page(s) Please share your precious findings! -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bibliography: only surname in small caps
On 30 Jun 2014, at 15:08, Joshua Krämer joshua.krae...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear list,
I would like to have in a bibliography only surnames in small
capitals, like this:
MÜLLER, B. and SCHNEIDER A.
(Müller and Schneider appear in small caps, but everything else
like and is still in the default typeface.)
At the moment, I'm using the old bibliography system. I am a bit
overwhelmed by the new system, because I would have to setup everything
from the beginning, as I have setup my layouts with
\setuppublicationlayout.
Now my questions are:
Is it possible to achieve what I want (SC surnames) with the old and the
new system?
Yes, in principle.
If I would do it with the old system, am I right that I would have to
redefine \normalauthor or define my own author command?
You would define your own command. Something like
\def\myinvertedauthor#1#2#3#4#5%
{{\sc #3}%
\bibdoif{#1}{\bibalternative{surnamesep}#4\unskip}%
\bibdoifelse{#2}{\bibalternative{vonsep}#2\unskip}{\unskip}%
\bibdoifelse{#5}{\bibalternative{juniorsep}#5\unskip}{\unskip}%
}
How could it be done with the new system? I've tried to understand the
file publ-imp-apa.mkvi, but there's only an author value, and I
don't understand how to access the name components (first name, last
name etc.).
The interface isn’t finished yet, so you’ll have to wait a bit. But this is a
good occasion to remind Hans that formatting needs for bibliographies can vary
widely, so we need as much configurability as possible.
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] bibliography tool
Jean Magnan de Bornier jm.born...@free.fr writes: Please share your precious findings! http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography Sincerely, Gour -- A person is considered still further advanced when he regards honest well-wishers, affectionate benefactors, the neutral, mediators, the envious, friends and enemies, the pious and the sinners all with an equal mind. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bibliography tool
On 6/30/2014 4:35 PM, Gour wrote: Jean Magnan de Bornier jm.born...@free.fr writes: Please share your precious findings! http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography beware: the mkii derived bibliograpic support for mkiv is replaced so that page is kind of obsolete (the new manual is in the distribution) the bib pages on the wiki will be replaced (also pending a better split between mkii and mkiv pages) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bibliography tool
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl writes: beware: the mkii derived bibliograpic support for mkiv is replaced so that page is kind of obsolete (the new manual is in the distribution) You mean this one http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography_mkiv is also obsolete? Where is the new manual and is the manual going to be published in paper form? the bib pages on the wiki will be replaced (also pending a better split between mkii and mkiv pages) It looks as ConTeXt (MkIV) is really becoming premiere typesetting system!! Sincerely, Gour -- The embodied soul may be restricted from sense enjoyment, though the taste for sense objects remains. But, ceasing such engagements by experiencing a higher taste, he is fixed in consciousness. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bibliography tool
Am 30.06.2014 um 17:29 schrieb Gour g...@atmarama.net: Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl writes: beware: the mkii derived bibliograpic support for mkiv is replaced so that page is kind of obsolete (the new manual is in the distribution) You mean this one http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography_mkiv is also obsolete? Where is the new manual and is the manual going to be published in paper form? There should be a pdf named mkiv-publications.pdf in your context directory. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bibliography tool
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com writes: There should be a pdf named mkiv-publications.pdf in your context directory. I'm using Debian (Sid), but there is, afaict, no such pdf. Sincerely, Gour -- A person is said to be elevated in yoga when, having renounced all material desires, he neither acts for sense gratification nor engages in fruitive activities. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bibliography: only surname in small caps
On 30 jun. 2014, at 17:33, Joshua Kr?mer joshua.krae...@gmail.com wrote I would like to have in a bibliography only surnames in small capitals, like this: M?LLER, B. and SCHNEIDER A. (M?ller and Schneider appear in small caps, but everything else like and is still in the default typeface.) At the moment, I'm using the old bibliography system. … Is it possible to achieve what I want (SC surnames) with the old and the new system? Hi Joshua, I suspect it can be done in the old system, albeit by some tricks that are maybe unworthy of ConTeXt. I have not tried using small caps because I use a font that does't have them but I think it would be doable. There a in fact two tricks. The first is to put everything in the booklet category and enter everything except author names, year of publication and city (or publisher) in the title. The second is to make a .bbl file and edit that, including ordering small caps where you want them, just as in a normal .tex-file. In your project you input the edited .bbl-file, not the .bib-file. This way you can use all the nice mechanisms of ConTeXt for citing, footnotes and bibliography without having to bother with the tweaking of codes. I have done it this way for my wife's PhD thesis and it works perfectly. Best regards, Robert Blackstone ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bibliography tool
Le 30 juin à 17:33:12 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com écrit notamment: | There should be a pdf named mkiv-publications.pdf in your context directory. Ah great, I had not noticed it before! Thanks Wolfgang -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bibliography tool
On 2014-06-30, 17:47, Gour wrote: I'm using Debian (Sid), but there is, afaict, no such pdf. In the ConTeXt minimals distribution, the file resides in the folder /tex/texmf-context/doc/context/manuals/allkind/. If you use a Debian package of ConTeXt, look in the system-wide texmf directory, which should be something like /usr/share/texmf/, and in the system-wide documentation directory, which should be something like /usr/share/doc/. Kind regards, Joshua ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bibliography: only surname in small caps
On 2014-06-30, 16:24, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
You would define your own command. Something like
\def\myinvertedauthor#1#2#3#4#5%
{{\sc #3}%
\bibdoif{#1}{\bibalternative{surnamesep}#4\unskip}%
\bibdoifelse{#2}{\bibalternative{vonsep}#2\unskip}{\unskip}%
\bibdoifelse{#5}{\bibalternative{juniorsep}#5\unskip}{\unskip}%
}
Thanks for your answer, Thomas. This is how I've done it now:
\unprotect\def\myinvertedshortauthor#1#2#3#4#5%
{\bibdoif{#2}{#2\bibalternative\c!vonsep}%
{\smallcaps #3}%
\bibdoif{#5}{\bibalternative\c!juniorsep#5}%
\bibdoif{#4}{\bibalternative\c!surnamesep#4\unskip}}
\protect
\setuppublicationlist [artauthor=\myinvertedshortauthor,
author=\myinvertedshortauthor, editor=\myinvertedshortauthor]
It works perfectly.
I'm looking forward to the new bibliography system, but on the other
hand, I'm glad I can stick with the old system for this project,
because everything else is already set up as needed.
Kind regards,
Joshua
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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliography: only surname in small caps
On 2014-06-30, 19:36, Robert Blackstone wrote: There a in fact two tricks. The first is to put everything in the booklet category and enter everything except author names, year of publication and city (or publisher) in the title. The second is to make a .bbl file and edit that, including ordering small caps where you want them, just as in a normal .tex-file. In your project you input the edited .bbl-file, not the .bib-file. Thanks for your answer, Robert. But I'm reluctant to do such manual hacks. In this case, they would not make sense anyway, because my database is too big (more than 200 entries), and I pull the entries from Medline, I don't create them myself. Minor tweaks are possible, but I can't rearrange and manually format all the entries. Anyway, it works now automatically (see my other mail), with a minimum of work. That's why I love ConTeXt and automatic typesetting. (-: Kind regards, Joshua ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bibliography: only surname in small caps
On 6/30/2014 4:24 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: The interface isn’t finished yet, so you’ll have to wait a bit. But this is a good occasion to remind Hans that formatting needs for bibliographies can vary widely, so we need as much configurability as possible. Sure, it ill be configureable (using setups) ... but it will overflow your filled up to-be-tested stack so I have time left to implement it. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
