Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread j. van den hoff

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 23:26:29 +0100, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:


On 12/20/2014 07:31 PM, j. van den hoff wrote:

newbie question:

how can I get access to fonts installed outside the TeX tree under  
MacOSX

(10.9 to be precise)?

mtxrun --script font --list --name --pattern=*

shows lots of fonts (so they are recognized by context, I'd guess)

but the simple-minded approach, namely to trying something like

\starttypescript [stix]
 \definetypeface [stix] [rm] [serif] [stix]  [default]
 \definetypeface [stix] [ss] [sans]  [adventor]  [default]
 \definetypeface [stix] [tt] [mono]  [cursor][default]
 \definetypeface [stix] [mm] [math]  [stix]  [default]
\stoptypescript

\usetypescript[stix]
\setupbodyfont[stix,12pt]

fails with `unknown library stix'.

obviously I am doing something wrong -- or is this a luatex problem not
being able to find the system fonts?


Hi Jörg,


hi pablo,


I don’t have a Mac, but this works in ConTeXt:

\definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [TeX Gyre Pagella]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [Helvetica]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [mono]  [Courier]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [math]  [TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]


yes this seems to work (mostly, at least -- there are still some hickups).
thanks a lot for this solution.



You don’t need to define a typescript. \definefontfamily is the command
you need.

Typeface should be defined only once ([rm] and [serif] are redundant).


essentially, I copied/pasted this from contextgarden and my understanding  
was

that `rm' and `serif' are aliases?

also: why does the typescript definition does not work in the first place?



Default body font size is 12pt.

I think it is easier to invoke typefaces with the system font name. I
mean, use the same name as you use in Word or any other MacOS X program.


understood. OTOH, ` mtxrun --script font --list --name --pattern=*' lists
the fonts using a different convention (lower case, no blanks), so I am
undecided what might be the best practice here?



I hope this helps. Don’t hesitate to ask, if you have further questions.


well, see above ;-).

joerg



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Re: [NTG-context] setting margins in makeup

2014-12-21 Thread Hans Hagen

On 12/20/2014 11:55 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

On 12/19/2014 04:38 PM, Mark Szepieniec wrote:

[...]
Incidentally, what threw me off was the phrasing in the manual:

4.19
Makeup
A document may have a titlepage, a colofon and some pages that are
not directly related to the main part of the document. Mostly these
pages are not numbered and can do without headers and footers.
Because their layout needs extra attention we prefer the word makeup
for defining their specific layout.

Since my makeup pages indeed don't have page numbers, I presumed they
wouldn't have headers either. I may have read too much into that, but
perhaps that passage can be improved?


Hi Mark,

makeups don’t have either headers or footers, but have the document
layout unless otherwise specified.

You are right: makeups don’t have header or footer /texts/, although
they don’t have the space for headers and footers removed.


they have them but their state is empty (headerstate etc parameters)

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Re: [NTG-context] Strange bug with overviewpage module.

2014-12-21 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Aditya,

Now that you realize that your module works so well, I have two questions :—)
How can one tweak your module so that in a presentation:
1) each overviewpage is included at the end;
2) each oveviewpage is clickabel and linked to the corresponding page 
of the presentation.

If this is already implemented and if you have an example presentation, could 
you please share it?

Best regards: OK

 On 20 Dec 2014, at 08:20, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:
 
 On Sat, 20 Dec 2014, Otared Kavian wrote:
 
 Hi Aditya,
 
 Thanks for sharing, but here your module works fine…
 Please see the attached file.
 
 Otared, thanks for testing! Updating ConTeXt does fix this issue.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread j. van den hoff

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 23:26:29 +0100, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:


Hi Jörg,
I don’t have a Mac, but this works in ConTeXt:
\definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [TeX Gyre Pagella]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [Helvetica]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [mono]  [Courier]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [math]  [TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]


I've now looked a bit closer: this works (on my Mac) _except_ for the  
teletype
font: `\tt{some text}' ends up being typeset in the serif font. `Courier'  
is
there, for sure (meaning: it is listed by `mtxrun --script font...' but it  
does not work.
on closer inspection, the actually found fontfiles are `courier new.ttf'  
and specifying

[couriernew] _does_ work.

so it seems you are right regarding using the full names, e.g.

\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [adventor]

does not work while

\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [TeX Gyre Adventor]

does.

any ideas, why all this is happening? or: _how_ exactly can fonts be  
specified? how is the mapping
from symbolic names to actual font files performed. it seems, sometimes  
symbolic (short) names work,
sometimes they don't. so, is there some prescription, what is the right  
(TM) way to do it?



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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 12/21/2014 11:51 AM, j. van den hoff wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 23:26:29 +0100, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

 You don’t need to define a typescript. \definefontfamily is the command
 you need.

 Typeface should be defined only once ([rm] and [serif] are redundant).
 
 essentially, I copied/pasted this from contextgarden and my understanding
 was that `rm' and `serif' are aliases?
 
 also: why does the typescript definition does not work in the first place?

Hi Jörg,

rm and serif are aliases

Your typescript definition seems to be lacking previous definitions,
according to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Paratype_typescript_for_mkiv.

I must say that never defined typescripts, because I never needed them.

 I think it is easier to invoke typefaces with the system font name. I
 mean, use the same name as you use in Word or any other MacOS X program.
 
 understood. OTOH, ` mtxrun --script font --list --name --pattern=*' lists
 the fonts using a different convention (lower case, no blanks), so I am
 undecided what might be the best practice here?

I would say that best practice is the one that suits your needs best.

If there is one, I don”t know it. But Using system names is easier to
remember (I think).


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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 12/21/2014 02:31 PM, j. van den hoff wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 23:26:29 +0100, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:
 
 Hi Jörg,
 I don’t have a Mac, but this works in ConTeXt:
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [TeX Gyre Pagella]
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [Helvetica]
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [mono]  [Courier]
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [math]  [TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
 \setupbodyfont[mainface]
 
 I've now looked a bit closer: this works (on my Mac) _except_ for
 the teletype font: `\tt{some text}' ends up being typeset in the
 serif font. `Courier' is there, for sure (meaning: it is listed by
 `mtxrun --script font...' but it does not work. on closer inspection,
 the actually found fontfiles are `courier new.ttf' and specifying
 [couriernew] _does_ work.

Hi Jörg,

\tt is a switch, so the right way to deploy it is:

   {\tt this text should be typewritten text}

I have just discovered that Courier doesn’t work on my system either. I
cannot find it.

Could you give the output from the following command?

$ mtxrun --script font --list --name --pattern=courier*

 so it seems you are right regarding using the full names, e.g.
 
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [adventor]
 
 does not work while
 
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [TeX Gyre Adventor]
 
 does.
 
 any ideas, why all this is happening?

\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [texgyreadventor]

seems to be the right way to invoke the font.

 or: _how_ exactly can fonts be specified? how is the mapping from
 symbolic names to actual font files performed. it seems, sometimes 
 symbolic (short) names work, sometimes they don't. so, is there some
 prescription, what is the right (TM) way to do it?

I think using full names is a good way to do it. But TeX Gyre Adventor
comes with ConTeXt. You don’t have it installed on your system.


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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread j. van den hoff

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 17:20:33 +0100, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:


On 12/21/2014 02:31 PM, j. van den hoff wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 23:26:29 +0100, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es  
wrote:



Hi Jörg,
I don’t have a Mac, but this works in ConTeXt:
\definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [TeX Gyre Pagella]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [Helvetica]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [mono]  [Courier]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [math]  [TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]


I've now looked a bit closer: this works (on my Mac) _except_ for
the teletype font: `\tt{some text}' ends up being typeset in the
serif font. `Courier' is there, for sure (meaning: it is listed by
`mtxrun --script font...' but it does not work. on closer inspection,
the actually found fontfiles are `courier new.ttf' and specifying
[couriernew] _does_ work.


Hi Jörg,

\tt is a switch, so the right way to deploy it is:

   {\tt this text should be typewritten text}


yes, that's right.



I have just discovered that Courier doesn’t work on my system either. I
cannot find it.

Could you give the output from the following command?

$ mtxrun --script font --list --name --pattern=courier*


sure:

couriercourierpcrr8a.afm
courierboldcourierboldpcrb8a.afm
courierboldoblique courierboldoblique pcrbo8a.afm
couriermedium  courierpcrr8a.afm
couriernew couriernewpsmt  
/Library/Fonts/Courier New.ttf
couriernewbold couriernewpsboldmt  
/Library/Fonts/Courier New Bold.ttf
couriernewbolditalic   couriernewpsbolditalicmt
/Library/Fonts/Courier New Bold Italic.ttf
couriernewitalic   couriernewpsitalicmt
/Library/Fonts/Courier New Italic.ttf
couriernewnormal   couriernewpsitalicmt
/Library/Fonts/Courier New Italic.ttf
couriernewpsbolditalicmt   couriernewpsbolditalicmt
/Library/Fonts/Courier New Bold Italic.ttf
couriernewpsboldmt couriernewpsboldmt  
/Library/Fonts/Courier New Bold.ttf
couriernewpsitalicmt   couriernewpsitalicmt
/Library/Fonts/Courier New Italic.ttf
couriernewpsmt couriernewpsmt  
/Library/Fonts/Courier New.ttf
couriernewregular  couriernewpsmt  
/Library/Fonts/Courier New.ttf

courieroblique courieroblique pcrro8a.afm

as I wrote in the last mail, only the `courier new' fonts are represented  
by actual font-files it seems (don't know

what the *afm files are). so if only those
(and their abbreviations) were reported I would not have any problem. but  
as it stands, `courier' is reported

as well -- but does not map to any actual font-file.




so it seems you are right regarding using the full names, e.g.

\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [adventor]

does not work while

\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [TeX Gyre Adventor]

does.

any ideas, why all this is happening?


\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [texgyreadventor]

seems to be the right way to invoke the font.


or: _how_ exactly can fonts be specified? how is the mapping from
symbolic names to actual font files performed. it seems, sometimes
symbolic (short) names work, sometimes they don't. so, is there some
prescription, what is the right (TM) way to do it?


I think using full names is a good way to do it. But TeX Gyre Adventor
comes with ConTeXt. You don’t have it installed on your system.


yes, that I know. they are part of the texlive distribution I use.

thanks for your help,

joerg



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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 12/21/2014 06:37 PM, j. van den hoff wrote:
 On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 17:20:33 +0100, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
 On 12/21/2014 02:31 PM, j. van den hoff wrote:
 [...]
 as I wrote in the last mail, only the `courier new' fonts are
 represented by actual font-files it seems (don't know what the *afm
 files are). so if only those (and their abbreviations) were reported
 I would not have any problem. but as it stands, `courier' is
 reported as well -- but does not map to any actual font-file.

.afm is an Adobe font metrics file. This is the way (old) PostScript
fonts are designed. Font glyphs in PostScript fonts are cotained in .pfa
or .pfb files.

Wikipedia has a good article explaining PostScript fonts
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostScript_fonts). But unless you have an
special interest, I’d simply ignore it.

If I‘m not wrong, only system font files are listed with their path. The
fonts that come with ConTeXt are listed, but their paths are ignored.

BTW, this should work (if I’m not completely wrong [it doesn’t work on
my system, because the courier fonts aren’t listed]):

\definefontfamily [mainface] [tt]  [courier]

 so it seems you are right regarding using the full names, e.g.

 \definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [adventor]

 does not work while

 \definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [TeX Gyre Adventor]

 does.

 any ideas, why all this is happening?

 \definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [texgyreadventor]

 seems to be the right way to invoke the font.

Sorry, I’m afraid my explanation was incomplete.

adventor is the name of a(n already predefined) typescript. So you can
use it with \setupbodyfont and \switchtobodyfont.

texgyreadventor is the name of the typeface or font family. You should
use it with \definefontfamily.

But typefaces cannot be invoked with typescript names and typescripts
cannot be invoked with typeface names.

This is why \definefontfamily[mainface][sans][adventor] or
\setupbodyfont[texgyreadventor] don’t work.

Wolfgang will know that better, but [mainface] in the previous
\definefontfamily is the new and easy way to create typescripts in ConTeXt.

Using the full font name has the main advantage of not having to know
whether a given name designs a typescript or a typeface ;-).

I hope it will be clearer now. Let me know if it isn’t.


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Re: [NTG-context] Strange bug with overviewpage module.

2014-12-21 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014, Otared Kavian wrote:


Hi Aditya,

Now that you realize that your module works so well, I have two questions :—)
How can one tweak your module so that in a presentation:
1) each overviewpage is included at the end;
2) each oveviewpage is clickabel and linked to the corresponding page 
of the presentation.

If this is already implemented and if you have an example presentation, could 
you please share it?


That was the original idea of the module. See: 
http://randomdeterminism.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/announcing-the-overview-module/


I am thinking of adding the abilityto manually create overview pages as 
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Re: [NTG-context] Strange bug with overviewpage module.

2014-12-21 Thread jdh
I am using the standalone context ( $ mtxrun --version  gives me ==  
ConTeXt TDS Runner Tool 1.31 )


I want to try the overview module.  I copied the example given on the 
references html page, but context needs the module to parse it.


How do I install a module?  ( This one specifically if different from 
others in installation.)


Regards


On 2014年12月21日 10:50, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014, Otared Kavian wrote:


Hi Aditya,

Now that you realize that your module works so well, I have two 
questions :—)

How can one tweak your module so that in a presentation:
1) each overviewpage is included at the end;
2) each oveviewpage is clickabel and linked to the corresponding 
page of the presentation.


If this is already implemented and if you have an example 
presentation, could you please share it?


That was the original idea of the module. See: 
http://randomdeterminism.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/announcing-the-overview-module/


I am thinking of adding the abilityto manually create overview pages 
as well.


Aditya


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Re: [NTG-context] vertical alignment of table of contents in makeup

2014-12-21 Thread Mark Szepieniec
Hi Pablo,

thanks for your clarifications. My thinking was that I didn't want my table
of contents page to have a page number, but I didn't realize that the ToC
head acts as a chapter head, so you can just get rid of the page number in
the way you suggest.

So just leaving out the makeup works fine, thanks!

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:

 On 12/20/2014 03:13 AM, Mark Szepieniec wrote:
  There is a trick mentioned on the wiki for top-aligning the contents of
  a makeup page, namely adding top=,, which cancels the default value of
  \vss, which is infinitely strechable space.
 
  However, that doesn't seem to work when the first element in the makeup
  page is \completecontent:

 Hi Mark,

 this is what it happens when you start a makeup page with a \chapter
 command. \chapter inserts a page break before the heading.

  [...]
  Here, the table of contents and the section are both placed on the
  makeup page, but they are centered vertically. If the \completecontent
  line is commented out, the correct vertical alignment of the section
  header is obtained. Is there a way to get top-alignment when a makeup
  page starts with \completecontent? Is this a bug?

 As far as I know, this isn’t a bug.

 You can disable the page break before chapter with:

 \setuphead[chapter][page=]

 This way it works as you intend.

  Or should I even be using makeup pages in my table of contents?

 I wonder whether this makes sense at all.

 Why do you want or why do you think you need the table of contents
 wrapped in a makeup page?

 A makeup page is fine for contents such as title pages, colophons or
 similar ones. Their contents should fit in a single page, because the
 contents won’t be split across pages.

 Here you have a sample that shows why makeup pages shouldn’t be used for
 table of contents:

 \starttext
 \startmakeup[standard][top=,]
 \chapter{Contents}
 \dorecurse{50}{\section{testsection}}
 \stopmakeup
 \stoptext

 I hope it helps,


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Re: [NTG-context] setting margins in makeup

2014-12-21 Thread Mark Szepieniec
On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 12/20/2014 11:55 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

 On 12/19/2014 04:38 PM, Mark Szepieniec wrote:

 [...]
 Incidentally, what threw me off was the phrasing in the manual:

 4.19
 Makeup
 A document may have a titlepage, a colofon and some pages that are
 not directly related to the main part of the document. Mostly these
 pages are not numbered and can do without headers and footers.
 Because their layout needs extra attention we prefer the word makeup
 for defining their specific layout.

 Since my makeup pages indeed don't have page numbers, I presumed they
 wouldn't have headers either. I may have read too much into that, but
 perhaps that passage can be improved?


 Hi Mark,

 makeups don’t have either headers or footers, but have the document
 layout unless otherwise specified.

 You are right: makeups don’t have header or footer /texts/, although
 they don’t have the space for headers and footers removed.


 they have them but their state is empty (headerstate etc parameters)

 Hans


Thanks for the clarification both of you, that was exactly what I was
getting wrong.

Best,

Mark


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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread j. van den hoff

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:22:22 +0100, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:


On 12/21/2014 06:37 PM, j. van den hoff wrote:

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 17:20:33 +0100, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

On 12/21/2014 02:31 PM, j. van den hoff wrote:

[...]
as I wrote in the last mail, only the `courier new' fonts are
represented by actual font-files it seems (don't know what the *afm
files are). so if only those (and their abbreviations) were reported
I would not have any problem. but as it stands, `courier' is
reported as well -- but does not map to any actual font-file.


.afm is an Adobe font metrics file. This is the way (old) PostScript
fonts are designed. Font glyphs in PostScript fonts are cotained in .pfa
or .pfb files.


I see.


Wikipedia has a good article explaining PostScript fonts
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostScript_fonts). But unless you have an
special interest, I’d simply ignore it.

If I‘m not wrong, only system font files are listed with their path. The
fonts that come with ConTeXt are listed, but their paths are ignored.

BTW, this should work (if I’m not completely wrong [it doesn’t work on
my system, because the courier fonts aren’t listed]):

   \definefontfamily [mainface] [tt]  [courier]


no, that does not work (despite it being listed by `mtxrun...fonts'. I  
need to specify 'courier new' here.





so it seems you are right regarding using the full names, e.g.

\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [adventor]

does not work while

\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [TeX Gyre Adventor]

does.

any ideas, why all this is happening?


\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [texgyreadventor]

seems to be the right way to invoke the font.


Sorry, I’m afraid my explanation was incomplete.

adventor is the name of a(n already predefined) typescript. So you can
use it with \setupbodyfont and \switchtobodyfont.

texgyreadventor is the name of the typeface or font family. You should
use it with \definefontfamily.

But typefaces cannot be invoked with typescript names and typescripts
cannot be invoked with typeface names.

This is why \definefontfamily[mainface][sans][adventor] or
\setupbodyfont[texgyreadventor] don’t work.

Wolfgang will know that better, but [mainface] in the previous
\definefontfamily is the new and easy way to create typescripts in  
ConTeXt.


Using the full font name has the main advantage of not having to know
whether a given name designs a typescript or a typeface ;-).

I hope it will be clearer now. Let me know if it isn’t.


yes it is (to an extent ;-)). I'll keep this labeled for lookup...

but I'm already stumbling about the next thing. while playing around with
some nice fonts I also tried out `optima' (like palatino by h. zapf).
so that is what I see:

mtxrun --script font --list --all --name --pattern=*optima*

optima optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
index:  0
optimablackoptimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
index:  0
optimabold optimabold /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
index:  3
optimabolditalic   optimabolditalic   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
index:  1
optimaextrablack   optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
index:  0
optimaitalic   optimaitalic   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
index:  2
optimanormal   optimaitalic   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
index:  2
optimaregular  optimaregular  /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
index:  4


then, when using, e.g.,

\definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [Optima]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [Optima]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [mono]  [dejavusansmono] [scale=0.865]  
%dejavumono/optima x-height ratio

\definefontfamily [mainface] [math]  [TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,11pt]

neither \it nor \bf (italic and bold) variants are working in the body  
text (but are just rendered

in the regular \rm font). when using

\definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [ebgaramond]

instead, \it _does_ work, while \bf is not available. _this_ I might  
understand since there
seems to be no bold variant of that font in the texlive distro (only  
'regular' and 'italic'.


but I would have thought that the different variants (italic, bold) can  
always be expected to just work

if they are present (as they are for `optima')?

joerg




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Re: [NTG-context] vertical alignment of table of contents in makeup

2014-12-21 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 12/21/2014 09:01 PM, Mark Szepieniec wrote:
 Hi Pablo,
 
 thanks for your clarifications. My thinking was that I didn't want my
 table of contents page to have a page number, but I didn't realize that
 the ToC head acts as a chapter head, so you can just get rid of the page
 number in the way you suggest.
 
 So just leaving out the makeup works fine, thanks!

Hi Mark,

to get rid of page numbers in the table of contents,
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Table_of_Contents#Suppressing_page_numbering_for_the_ToC_pages
may help you.

Just in case it helps,

Pablo



 On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
 
 On 12/20/2014 03:13 AM, Mark Szepieniec wrote:
  There is a trick mentioned on the wiki for top-aligning the contents of
  a makeup page, namely adding top=,, which cancels the default value of
  \vss, which is infinitely strechable space.
 
  However, that doesn't seem to work when the first element in the makeup
  page is \completecontent:
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 this is what it happens when you start a makeup page with a \chapter
 command. \chapter inserts a page break before the heading.
 
  [...]
  Here, the table of contents and the section are both placed on the
  makeup page, but they are centered vertically. If the \completecontent
  line is commented out, the correct vertical alignment of the section
  header is obtained. Is there a way to get top-alignment when a makeup
  page starts with \completecontent? Is this a bug?
 
 As far as I know, this isn’t a bug.
 
 You can disable the page break before chapter with:
 
 \setuphead[chapter][page=]
 
 This way it works as you intend.
 
  Or should I even be using makeup pages in my table of contents?
 
 I wonder whether this makes sense at all.
 
 Why do you want or why do you think you need the table of contents
 wrapped in a makeup page?
 
 A makeup page is fine for contents such as title pages, colophons or
 similar ones. Their contents should fit in a single page, because the
 contents won’t be split across pages.
 
 Here you have a sample that shows why makeup pages shouldn’t be used for
 table of contents:
 
 \starttext
 \startmakeup[standard][top=,]
 \chapter{Contents}
 \dorecurse{50}{\section{testsection}}
 \stopmakeup
 \stoptext
 
 I hope it helps,
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] vertical alignment of table of contents in makeup

2014-12-21 Thread Mark Szepieniec
On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:

 On 12/21/2014 09:01 PM, Mark Szepieniec wrote:
  Hi Pablo,
 
  thanks for your clarifications. My thinking was that I didn't want my
  table of contents page to have a page number, but I didn't realize that
  the ToC head acts as a chapter head, so you can just get rid of the page
  number in the way you suggest.
 
  So just leaving out the makeup works fine, thanks!

 Hi Mark,

 to get rid of page numbers in the table of contents,

 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Table_of_Contents#Suppressing_page_numbering_for_the_ToC_pages
 may help you.

 Just in case it helps,

 Pablo



  On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
 
  On 12/20/2014 03:13 AM, Mark Szepieniec wrote:
   There is a trick mentioned on the wiki for top-aligning the
 contents of
   a makeup page, namely adding top=,, which cancels the default
 value of
   \vss, which is infinitely strechable space.
  
   However, that doesn't seem to work when the first element in the
 makeup
   page is \completecontent:
 
  Hi Mark,
 
  this is what it happens when you start a makeup page with a \chapter
  command. \chapter inserts a page break before the heading.
 
   [...]
   Here, the table of contents and the section are both placed on the
   makeup page, but they are centered vertically. If the
 \completecontent
   line is commented out, the correct vertical alignment of the
 section
   header is obtained. Is there a way to get top-alignment when a
 makeup
   page starts with \completecontent? Is this a bug?
 
  As far as I know, this isn’t a bug.
 
  You can disable the page break before chapter with:
 
  \setuphead[chapter][page=]
 
  This way it works as you intend.
 
   Or should I even be using makeup pages in my table of contents?
 
  I wonder whether this makes sense at all.
 
  Why do you want or why do you think you need the table of contents
  wrapped in a makeup page?
 
  A makeup page is fine for contents such as title pages, colophons or
  similar ones. Their contents should fit in a single page, because the
  contents won’t be split across pages.
 
  Here you have a sample that shows why makeup pages shouldn’t be used
 for
  table of contents:
 
  \starttext
  \startmakeup[standard][top=,]
  \chapter{Contents}
  \dorecurse{50}{\section{testsection}}
  \stopmakeup
  \stoptext
 
  I hope it helps,
 
 
  Pablo


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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

 but I'm already stumbling about the next thing. while playing around with
 some nice fonts I also tried out `optima' (like palatino by h. zapf).
 so that is what I see:
 
 mtxrun --script font --list --all --name --pattern=*optima*
 
 optima optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   
 index:  0
 optimablackoptimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   
 index:  0
 optimabold optimabold /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   
 index:  3
 optimabolditalic   optimabolditalic   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   
 index:  1
 optimaextrablack   optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   
 index:  0
 optimaitalic   optimaitalic   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   
 index:  2
 optimanormal   optimaitalic   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   
 index:  2
 optimaregular  optimaregular  /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   
 index:  4
 
 then, when using, e.g.,
 
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [Optima]
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [Optima]
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [mono]  [dejavusansmono] [scale=0.865] 
 %dejavumono/optima x-height ratio
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [math]  [TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
 \setupbodyfont[mainface,11pt]
 
 neither \it nor \bf (italic and bold) variants are working in the body text 
 (but are just rendered
 in the regular \rm font).

I guess your context version is too old because the current version in the 
standalone
installation of context shows the italic and bold styles.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread j. van den hoff
On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:39:02 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster  
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:




but I'm already stumbling about the next thing. while playing around  
with

some nice fonts I also tried out `optima' (like palatino by h. zapf).
so that is what I see:

mtxrun --script font --list --all --name --pattern=*optima*

optima optimaextrablack
/System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   index:  0
optimablackoptimaextrablack
/System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   index:  0
optimabold optimabold  
/System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   index:  3
optimabolditalic   optimabolditalic
/System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   index:  1
optimaextrablack   optimaextrablack
/System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   index:  0
optimaitalic   optimaitalic
/System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   index:  2
optimanormal   optimaitalic
/System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   index:  2
optimaregular  optimaregular   
/System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc   index:  4


then, when using, e.g.,

\definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [Optima]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [Optima]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [mono]  [dejavusansmono] [scale=0.865]  
%dejavumono/optima x-height ratio

\definefontfamily [mainface] [math]  [TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,11pt]

neither \it nor \bf (italic and bold) variants are working in the body  
text (but are just rendered

in the regular \rm font).


I guess your context version is too old because the current version in  
the standalone

installation of context shows the italic and bold styles.


I use

mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 0.60
mtx-context |
mtx-context | main context file:  
/opt/local/share/texmf-texlive/tex/context/base/context.mkiv

mtx-context | current version: 2014.05.21 22:04

do you have any idea whether this already is 'too old'? if it is: is it  
recommendable to
actually install standalone context beside/instead of the version included  
in texlive?
(I mean, if the actual goal is to write some documents rather than diving  
deep into context for

its own sake ;-))



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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

 Am 21.12.2014 um 22:45 schrieb j. van den hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.com:
 
 I guess your context version is too old because the current version in the 
 standalone
 installation of context shows the italic and bold styles.
 
 I use
 
 mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 0.60
 mtx-context |
 mtx-context | main context file: 
 /opt/local/share/texmf-texlive/tex/context/base/context.mkiv
 mtx-context | current version: 2014.05.21 22:04
 
 do you have any idea whether this already is 'too old'? if it is: is it 
 recommendable to
 actually install standalone context beside/instead of the version included in 
 texlive?
 (I mean, if the actual goal is to write some documents rather than diving 
 deep into context for
 its own sake ;-))

Yes this version is too old, you need a context from august or later.

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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 12/21/2014 09:24 PM, j. van den hoff wrote:
 On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:22:22 +0100, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
 [...]
 BTW, this should work (if I’m not completely wrong [it doesn’t work on
 my system, because the courier fonts aren’t listed]):

\definefontfamily [mainface] [tt]  [courier]
 
 no, that does not work (despite it being listed by `mtxrun...fonts'. I  
 need to specify 'courier new' here.

I‘m afraid I cannot say why it doesn’t (all I know is that it should work.)

 but I'm already stumbling about the next thing. while playing around with
 some nice fonts I also tried out `optima' (like palatino by h. zapf).
 so that is what I see:
 
 mtxrun --script font --list --all --name --pattern=*optima*
 
 optima optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
 index:  0
 optimablackoptimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
 index:  0
 optimabold optimabold /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
 index:  3
 optimabolditalic   optimabolditalic   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
 index:  1
 optimaextrablack   optimaextrablack   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
 index:  0
 optimaitalic   optimaitalic   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
 index:  2
 optimanormal   optimaitalic   /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
 index:  2
 optimaregular  optimaregular  /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
 index:  4
 
 then, when using, e.g.,
 
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [Optima]
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [sans]  [Optima]
 [...]
 neither \it nor \bf (italic and bold) variants are working in the body  
 text (but are just rendered
 in the regular \rm font). when using
 
 \definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [ebgaramond]
 
 instead, \it _does_ work, while \bf is not available. _this_ I might  
 understand since there
 seems to be no bold variant of that font in the texlive distro (only  
 'regular' and 'italic'.
 
 but I would have thought that the different variants (italic, bold) can  
 always be expected to just work
 if they are present (as they are for `optima')?

Well, I’m afraid that I can only guess not having access to a MacOS
computer.

.ttc stands for TrueType collection, it isn’t actually a font. From what
I read at the wiki, dealing with .ttc is problematic (or at least, it
was in the past: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTeX).

Sorry, I have never dealt with a .ttc file before. I have installed
Averia Serif and Sans TTC (http://iotic.com/averia/).

They seem to work:

\definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [Averia Serif]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [sans] [Averia Sans]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=1em]
{\rm a \em b \bf c \em d}

{\ss a \em b \bf c \em d}
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext

How about \definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [Optima Regular]? Does it
switch fonts?

Just in case it helps,


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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 12/21/2014 10:45 PM, j. van den hoff wrote:
 [...]
 do you have any idea whether this already is 'too old'? if it is: is
 it recommendable to actually install standalone context
 beside/instead of the version included in texlive? (I mean, if the
 actual goal is to write some documents rather than diving deep into
 context for its own sake ;-))

You can always install the latest standalone version beside TeX Live.

They are totally independent. I had both TeX Live and ConTeXt
Standalone. After I installed a new version of Linux, I didn’t have the
need to reinstall TeX Live ;-).

Just in case it helps,


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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread j. van den hoff

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 23:17:52 +0100, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:


On 12/21/2014 10:45 PM, j. van den hoff wrote:

[...]
do you have any idea whether this already is 'too old'? if it is: is
it recommendable to actually install standalone context
beside/instead of the version included in texlive? (I mean, if the
actual goal is to write some documents rather than diving deep into
context for its own sake ;-))


You can always install the latest standalone version beside TeX Live.


good to know. I'll try that (as this seems the way to go as I've learned
from wolfgang schuster's mail). 



They are totally independent. I had both TeX Live and ConTeXt
Standalone. After I installed a new version of Linux, I didn’t have the
need to reinstall TeX Live ;-).

Just in case it helps,


sure did!

joerg



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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread j. van den hoff
On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:56:42 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster  
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:




Am 21.12.2014 um 22:45 schrieb j. van den hoff  
veedeeh...@googlemail.com:


I guess your context version is too old because the current version in  
the standalone

installation of context shows the italic and bold styles.


I use

mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 0.60
mtx-context |
mtx-context | main context file:  
/opt/local/share/texmf-texlive/tex/context/base/context.mkiv

mtx-context | current version: 2014.05.21 22:04

do you have any idea whether this already is 'too old'? if it is: is it  
recommendable to
actually install standalone context beside/instead of the version  
included in texlive?
(I mean, if the actual goal is to write some documents rather than  
diving deep into context for

its own sake ;-))


Yes this version is too old, you need a context from august or later.


I'll try that. thank you

joerg



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Re: [NTG-context] Strange bug with overviewpage module.

2014-12-21 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014, jdh wrote:

I am using the standalone context ( $ mtxrun --version  gives me == 
ConTeXt TDS Runner Tool 1.31 )


I want to try the overview module.  I copied the example given on the 
references html page, but context needs the module to parse it.


How do I install a module?  ( This one specifically if different from 
others in installation.)


I wasn't sure whether others would be interested in the module, so I did 
not upload it to context garden. To test the module, download 
t-overviewpage.mkiv from


https://raw.githubusercontent.com/adityam/context-overviewpage/master/t-overviewpage.mkiv

and put it in the current directory.

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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread j. van den hoff
On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:56:42 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster  
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:




Am 21.12.2014 um 22:45 schrieb j. van den hoff  
veedeeh...@googlemail.com:


I guess your context version is too old because the current version in  
the standalone

installation of context shows the italic and bold styles.


I use

mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 0.60
mtx-context |
mtx-context | main context file:  
/opt/local/share/texmf-texlive/tex/context/base/context.mkiv

mtx-context | current version: 2014.05.21 22:04

do you have any idea whether this already is 'too old'? if it is: is it  
recommendable to
actually install standalone context beside/instead of the version  
included in texlive?
(I mean, if the actual goal is to write some documents rather than  
diving deep into context for

its own sake ;-))


Yes this version is too old, you need a context from august or later.


OK, I've just installed the standalone version and adjusted my search  
path. now the very same document does no longer compile. I get the error:


8---
 ! Undefined control sequence

recently read \doctitle

l.106\doctitle
8---
where `doctitle' is defined in a small bare bones module (co-existing in  
the same dir as the doc) for setting up a title page. I guess I'm hitting  
some (context-) searchpath issue here that already is taken care of in the  
texlive distro? any help'd be appreciated.


joerg



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Re: [NTG-context] access to system fonts under MacOSX

2014-12-21 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 12/22/2014 12:12 AM, j. van den hoff wrote:
 OK, I've just installed the standalone version and adjusted my search  
 path. now the very same document does no longer compile. I get the error:
 
 8---
   ! Undefined control sequence
 
 recently read \doctitle
 
 l.106\doctitle
 8---
 where `doctitle' is defined in a small bare bones module (co-existing in  
 the same dir as the doc) for setting up a title page. I guess I'm hitting  
 some (context-) searchpath issue here that already is taken care of in the  
 texlive distro? any help'd be appreciated.

Hi Jörg,

providing a minimal sample that reproduces the error (at least, in your
computer) avoids the guesswork :-).

I think it is better that you start a new thread for this (new) issue.
It will help others to search when facing similar problems.

From what I understand of your description, when the module is located
in the same directory as the source document you compile, ConTeXt
doesn’t need to search anything. But you need to compile it from that
directory.

BTW, is your module similar to the one suggested in
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Document_Titles#In_ConTeXt:_A_more_reusable_solution?


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