Re: [NTG-context] Change in flushleft alignment?
On 2023-06-01 03:02, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: On 6/1/2023 4:17 AM, Rik Kabel via ntg-context wrote: Previously (May 7) flushleft paragraphs were as wide as possible within the text area. Now (May 30) they appear to be re-wrapped to a much narrower width. Here is the same paragraph, showing the difference: and It looks like every paragraph has been run through par. This does not seem to create paragraphs with more lines, but they create a very odd, choppy page. It does not prevent hyphenation, and sometimes introduces it where none was present before. Did I miss a change? I'll check it (we're experimenting a bit with alignments related to math) Hans Thank you for the quick fix. -- Rik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] knuth
On 01/06/2023 12:32, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote: It's amazing how the confident tone lends credibility to all of that made-up nonsense. Almost impossible for anybody without knowledge of the book to believe that those "facts" aren't authorititative and well researched. Step by step. First you tell them that your system is more convenient then reading the books yourself. Then you replace common sense with new daily 'facts'. Nothing has really changed over the years; if you point out errors, the mere response is that it is still work in progress (see how great opportunities this has), for now it is good enough to entertain children. As if children do not deserve the best access to true knowledge and curiosity. Divide & conquer (wie is er niet groot mee geworden ;-) .F ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Commercial fonts and diacritics
On 6/1/2023 11:47 AM, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote: I feel that I should have solved the following question myself---I have a long history of making diacritics for Sanskrit work in different incarnations of TeX since 1991---but I have never understood the technicalities of otf fonts. Currently I am trying to use high quality Adobe Fonts for Sanskrit texts, which need the following diacritics: āīūṛś ḍḷṭṣṃḥṛṝṣṅṇ (ideally also with capitals). The font Adobe Text Pro prints them perfectly, but Minion Pro does not. However, if you enter your own text on the fontshop website, it seems to work, and this is why I prematurely bought yet another new version of Minion Pro, hoping that it would work this time. If you look at font with fontforge, many utf code positions for Indic Transliteration are empty, i.e. Minionpro does not have the characters with diacritics, Adobe Text Pro has them. So far, so good (or not). The hotline of fontshop.com thinks that there is an OpenType feature that creates so-called Composits out of the elements. I can understand the mechanism, I guess I have tweaked something similar in pdflatex or OmegaTeX in the pre-otf era, but I have no idea whether one of these mechanism can be utilised in Xe-, Lua- Or ConTeXt nowadays. I was hoping that some fontfeatures (fakecombining=yes,compose=yes) would do the trick, but apparently they do not. In a sense this is no big deal. There are many nice fonts around (and those that come with ConTeXt are great), but I was used to printing books with an old Type-1 Minion (www.ctan.org/pkg/w-a-schmidt) and find it hard to accept that this should not be possible with the modern flavours of TeX. My system: This is LuaTeX, Version 1.16.0 (TeX Live 2023/Arch Linux) open source > level 1, order 1, name '/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv' Can you try context lmtx instead? I get the dots there. Minimal example: \enableregime[utf] ^^ no need for this, it's the default - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] knuth
On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 11:45, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > Hi, > > Probably some on this list already checked how well chatgpt answers > questions about domains one knows well and then probably noted that in > spite of impressive wording, one can run into quite incorrect answers. > > One can get really stupid responses about tex and friends, but also can > get impressive exmapled when asked for. (I'm still planning a wrap up of > some.) > > That said, one should read: > >https://cs.stanford.edu/~knuth/chatGPT20.txt > > and this makes a pretty nice new sample file: > > It's amazing how the confident tone lends credibility to all of that > made-up nonsense. Almost impossible for anybody without knowledge > of the book to believe that those "facts" aren't authorititative > and well researched. > you can happily include the email that I have sent to you that declares that *you* are the author of MFlua and *I* have nothing to do with it (chatgpt3: as far as I know, the overall number of users+developers of MFLua in the entire solar system is exactly 1 -- me -- at least from 10 years) . For a moment I was even convinced that it was true. On the other hand, I am pretty sure that it will be able to generate perfect lualatex files for articles, reports, and later books. How and when it's more a matter of interest rather than capabilities. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Commercial fonts and diacritics
I feel that I should have solved the following question myself---I have a long history of making diacritics for Sanskrit work in different incarnations of TeX since 1991---but I have never understood the technicalities of otf fonts. Currently I am trying to use high quality Adobe Fonts for Sanskrit texts, which need the following diacritics: āīūṛś ḍḷṭṣṃḥṛṝṣṅṇ (ideally also with capitals). The font Adobe Text Pro prints them perfectly, but Minion Pro does not. However, if you enter your own text on the fontshop website, it seems to work, and this is why I prematurely bought yet another new version of Minion Pro, hoping that it would work this time. If you look at font with fontforge, many utf code positions for Indic Transliteration are empty, i.e. Minionpro does not have the characters with diacritics, Adobe Text Pro has them. So far, so good (or not). The hotline of fontshop.com thinks that there is an OpenType feature that creates so-called Composits out of the elements. I can understand the mechanism, I guess I have tweaked something similar in pdflatex or OmegaTeX in the pre-otf era, but I have no idea whether one of these mechanism can be utilised in Xe-, Lua- Or ConTeXt nowadays. I was hoping that some fontfeatures (fakecombining=yes,compose=yes) would do the trick, but apparently they do not. In a sense this is no big deal. There are many nice fonts around (and those that come with ConTeXt are great), but I was used to printing books with an old Type-1 Minion (www.ctan.org/pkg/w-a-schmidt) and find it hard to accept that this should not be possible with the modern flavours of TeX. My system: This is LuaTeX, Version 1.16.0 (TeX Live 2023/Arch Linux) open source > level 1, order 1, name '/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv' Minimal example: \enableregime[utf] \setuppapersize[A4] \definefontfeature[default][default][fakecombining=yes,compose=yes] \starttypescript [serif] [adobetextpro] \definefontsynonym[AdobeTextPro-Regular] [file:AdobeTextPro-Regular] [features=default] \definefontsynonym[AdobeTextPro-Italic] [file:AdobeTextPro-Italic] [features=default] \definefontsynonym[AdobeTextPro-Bold] [file:AdobeTextPro-Bold] [features=default] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [adobetextpro] [name] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [AdobeTextPro-Regular] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [AdobeTextPro-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [AdobeTextPro-Bold] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [adobetextpro] \definetypeface [adobetextpro] [rm] [serif] [adobetextpro] [default] [features=default] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [minionpro] \definefontsynonym[MinionPro-Regular] [file:MinionPro-Regular] [features=default] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [minionpro] [name] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [MinionPro-Regular] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [minionpro] \definetypeface [minionpro] [rm] [serif] [minionpro] [default] [features=default] \stoptypescript \setupbodyfont[minionpro] \starttext Test of Diacritics for ``Indic transliteration'' MinionPro: āīūṛś ḍṭṣṃḥṛṣ % here no underdot diacritics \setupbodyfont[adobetextpro] Adobe Text Pro āīūṛś ḍṭṣṃḥṛṣ % here all diacritics show \stoptext --- Prof. Dr. Juergen Hanneder Philipps-Universitaet Marburg FG Indologie u. Tibetologie Deutschhausstr.12 35032 Marburg Germany Tel. 0049-6421-28-24930 hanne...@staff.uni-marburg.de ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] knuth
Hi, Probably some on this list already checked how well chatgpt answers questions about domains one knows well and then probably noted that in spite of impressive wording, one can run into quite incorrect answers. One can get really stupid responses about tex and friends, but also can get impressive exmapled when asked for. (I'm still planning a wrap up of some.) That said, one should read: https://cs.stanford.edu/~knuth/chatGPT20.txt and this makes a pretty nice new sample file: It's amazing how the confident tone lends credibility to all of that made-up nonsense. Almost impossible for anybody without knowledge of the book to believe that those "facts" aren't authorititative and well researched. (among some other remarks) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
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Re: [NTG-context] Change in flushleft alignment?
On 6/1/2023 4:17 AM, Rik Kabel via ntg-context wrote: Previously (May 7) flushleft paragraphs were as wide as possible within the text area. Now (May 30) they appear to be re-wrapped to a much narrower width. Here is the same paragraph, showing the difference: and It looks like every paragraph has been run through par. This does not seem to create paragraphs with more lines, but they create a very odd, choppy page. It does not prevent hyphenation, and sometimes introduces it where none was present before. Did I miss a change? I'll check it (we're experimenting a bit with alignments related to math) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Change in flushleft alignment?
Am 01.06.23 um 04:17 schrieb Rik Kabel via ntg-context: Previously (May 7) flushleft paragraphs were as wide as possible within the text area. Now (May 30) they appear to be re-wrapped to a much narrower width. Here is the same paragraph, showing the difference: and It looks like every paragraph has been run through par. This does not seem to create paragraphs with more lines, but they create a very odd, choppy page. It does not prevent hyphenation, and sometimes introduces it where none was present before. Did I miss a change? I found the same problem with a \definedescription; a workaround was to add "wide,hyphenated" to the alignment. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
