Re: [NTG-context] Hebrew vowel placement in ConTeXt. (Rik Kabel)
Thank you very much for the reply. I switched to ConTeXt standalone and now it is working. Best, Michael This works: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][script=hebr,ccmp=yes] \setmainfont[Ezra SIL SR][features=hebrew] \setupdirections[bidi=on] \starttext בְרֵאשִ֖ית בָרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ \stoptext BTW what is the \definefontfamily syntax that would work with \setupbodyfont in the new post-simplefonts era? Best, Michael PS Just FYI here is what I had been working with: What platform are you using, what version of Ezra SIL SR (likely 2.51, but worth asking)? I am using linux (ubuntu 14.04) fonts-sil-ezra package Package fonts-sil-ezra: i 2.51-8 trusty 500 (I presume this means version 2.51.) I am using the current ppa:reviczky/context-daily version of context: ConTeXt ver: 2014.03.25 16:58 MKIV beta fmt: 2014.5.1 int: english/english Here is the error message that I was receiving (when I include script=hebr): + /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/third/simplefonts/t-simplefonts.lua)error: /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/font-otn.lua:805: attempt to call upvalue 'getprop' (a nil value) May I bump? The following code used to work, but now it gives an error: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][mode=node,script=hebr,language=dflt,mark=yes,ccmp=yes] \setmainfont[Ezra SIL SR][features=hebrew] \setupdirections[bidi=on] \starttext ?? ?? ? ?? ?? \stoptext The following variant (without script=hebr) compiles but the vowels are misplaced (not centered below the letters), which ccmp=yes (see http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/features_ae.htm#ccmp) is supposed to request: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][mode=node,language=dflt,mark=yes,ccmp=yes] \setmainfont[Ezra SIL SR][features=hebrew] \setupdirections[bidi=on] \starttext ?? ?? ? ?? ?? \stoptext The problem in definefontfeature seems to be that the feature ccmp=yes is not taking effect, and the feature script=hebr generates an error. Thank you very much for your advice. Michael Michael, Sorry to say, no problem here with your example, and trimming the second line even further to \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][script=hebr,ccmp=yes] still produces results with no errors and proper nikkud alignment (run on a system running Windows 8.1 x64 and ConTeXt standalone 2014-04-28 standard and jit). Similarly, no problem with traditional font definition without simplefonts. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Hebrew vowel placement in ConTeXt. (Rik Kabel)
On 2014-05-03 17:16, Michael Ash wrote:
Thank you very much for the reply.
I switched to ConTeXt standalone and now it is working.
Best,
Michael
This works:
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\definefontfeature[hebrew][default][script=hebr,ccmp=yes]
\setmainfont[Ezra SIL SR][features=hebrew]
\setupdirections[bidi=on]
\starttext
?? ?? ? ?? ??
\stoptext
BTW what is the \definefontfamily syntax that would work with
\setupbodyfont in the new post-simplefonts era?
Best,
Michael
As to the by-the-way, see message 56606
http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg56606.html in the
list archive. This is not the post-simplefonts solution, but the
pre-simplefonts solution. It does allow much better control over all of
the fonts that make up the typeface (using ConTeXt terminology).
The example shows what to do to set a document that is primarily Hebrew
(or other RtL script). If you want to mix directions, bidi may be a
better choice than the setupalign of the example. If you use bidi, I
suggest \setupdirections[bidi=on,method=two]. I find that without method
two, there is a problem with punctuation. In particular, the comma in
some text {\heb **}, some more text
gets set before, not after, the hebrew text.
If you set only some Hebrew/Aramaic/Arabic, and especially if you do not
need font variants (bold, italic, ...) you might prefer to define a
single font. I have used:
\definefontfeature [aramaic]
[default]
[ccmp=yes,
script=hebr]
\definefont[aramaic]%% KeterYG from
http://culmus.sourceforge.net/taamim/
[KeterYG-Medium.ttf*aramaic sa 1]
\setupdirections [bidi=on=,method=two]
\starttext
English {\aramaic ???} English again.
\stoptext
I do note as well that there is a problem in the example in the linked
message. It looks to me like the order of components is beth/shva/dagesh
(for the first letter (and beth/qamatz/dagesh for the first of the
second word), which ConTeXt sets incorrectly. When the order is changed
to beth/dagesh/qamatz-or-shva, they are set correctly. If you use vim,
the command ga will show the decomposition of the character components.
Here are the two versions of that letter, first in the order that sets
correctly:
???
and then in the order that does not:
???
--
rik
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Re: [NTG-context] Hebrew vowel placement in ConTeXt.
May I bump? The following code used to work, but now it gives an error: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][mode=node,script=hebr,language=dflt,mark=yes,ccmp=yes] \setmainfont[Ezra SIL SR][features=hebrew] \setupdirections[bidi=on] \starttext בְרֵאשִ֖ית בָרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ \stoptext The following variant (without script=hebr) compiles but the vowels are misplaced (not centered below the letters), which ccmp=yes (see http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/features_ae.htm#ccmp) is supposed to request: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][mode=node,language=dflt,mark=yes,ccmp=yes] \setmainfont[Ezra SIL SR][features=hebrew] \setupdirections[bidi=on] \starttext בְרֵאשִ֖ית בָרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ \stoptext The problem in definefontfeature seems to be that the feature ccmp=yes is not taking effect, and the feature script=hebr generates an error. Thank you very much for your advice. Michael On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Michael Ash m...@econs.umass.edu wrote: This seems to have broken in my latest upgrade. The diacriticals (vowels) are no longer centered under the Hebrew lettes. They are now misaligned again. Also, the script=hebr option in definefontfeature now generates an error (see the original code in the second message). The following code works but with misaligned vowels. So the ccmp option doesn't seem to be working anymore. \usemodule[simplefonts] \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][ccmp=yes,mark=yes] \setmainfont[Ezra SIL][features=hebrew] \setupalign[r2l] \starttext בְרֵאשִ֖ית בָרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ \stoptext Thank you very much for suggestions. Best, Michael On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Michael Ash m...@econs.umass.edu wrote: There is a nice answer from W. Schuster to the vowel placement question in the archives at http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2011/059969.html (I didn't find it because the subject is Misaligned Marks rather than Hebrew vowel placement but it resolves the question. (Idris's suggestions regarding options to \definefontfeature were right on -- thanks) and I also learned more about \setupalign http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupalign *I am trying to set some text in Hebrew with diacritical marks, and whenever there is a diacritical that's supposed to come in the middle of a letter, all the marks are coming off misaligned, right after the glyph rather than in the middle of it (or wherever they're supposed to be). * Solution: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][script=hebr,ccmp=yes,mark=yes] \setmainfont[Ezra SIL][features=hebrew] \setupalign[r2l] \starttext בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ \stoptext Thanks all. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Michael Ash m...@econs.umass.eduwrote: Thank you. The unicode text looked good (although reversed left-to-right as I sent it) in my sent mail, and it looked perfect (corrected right-to-left) in your response. But it did not look good in the digest email (all the letters were convered to ?'s). Also it's typesetting fine in ConTeXt except for the vowel placement. Any suggestions there? Thank you again. Yours, Michael On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد isha...@colostate.edu wrote: Greetings, Michael, On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:15:11 -0600, Michael Ash m...@econs.umass.edu wrote: Is there a standard way to send unicode text to this list? Your Unicode text came through perfectly: \textdir TRT \hebrew לָכֵן חַכּוּ־לִי נְאֻם־יְהוָה לְיוֹם קוּמִי לְעַד כִּי מִשְׁפָּטִי לֶאֱסֹף גּוֹיִם לְקָבְצִי מַמְלָכוֹת לִשְׁפֹּךְ עֲלֵיהֶם זַעְמִי כֹּל חֲרוֹן אַפִּי כִּי בְּאֵשׁ קִנְאָתִי תֵּאָכֵל כָּל־הָאָרֶץ׃ \stoptext Maybe the encoding of your browser/mail-client needs to be set to Unicode (Automatic usually works too). For high-level text-direction control, you may experiment with \righttoleft \lefttoright as well as \setupdirections[bidi=global] \setupdirections[bidi=local] Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Michael Ash, Chair, Department of Economics Professor of Economics and Public Policy University of Massachusetts Amherst, MA 01003 Email m...@econs.umass.edu Tel +1-413-545-2590 Twitter @michaelaoash -- Michael Ash, Chair, Department of Economics Professor of Economics and Public Policy University of Massachusetts Amherst, MA 01003 Email m...@econs.umass.edu Tel +1-413-545-2590 Twitter @michaelaoash -- Michael Ash, Chair, Department of Economics Professor of Economics and Public Policy University of Massachusetts Amherst Amherst, MA 01003 Email m...@econs.umass.edu Tel +1-413-545-2590 Twitter https://twitter.com/michaelaoash -- Michael Ash, Chair,
Re: [NTG-context] Hebrew vowel placement in ConTeXt.
On 2014-05-02 14:36, Michael Ash wrote: May I bump? The following code used to work, but now it gives an error: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][mode=node,script=hebr,language=dflt,mark=yes,ccmp=yes] \setmainfont[Ezra SIL SR][features=hebrew] \setupdirections[bidi=on] \starttext ?? ?? ? ?? ?? \stoptext The following variant (without script=hebr) compiles but the vowels are misplaced (not centered below the letters), which ccmp=yes (see http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/features_ae.htm#ccmp) is supposed to request: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][mode=node,language=dflt,mark=yes,ccmp=yes] \setmainfont[Ezra SIL SR][features=hebrew] \setupdirections[bidi=on] \starttext ?? ?? ? ?? ?? \stoptext The problem in definefontfeature seems to be that the feature ccmp=yes is not taking effect, and the feature script=hebr generates an error. Thank you very much for your advice. Michael Michael, Sorry to say, no problem here with your example, and trimming the second line even further to \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][script=hebr,ccmp=yes] still produces results with no errors and proper nikkud alignment (run on a system running Windows 8.1 x64 and ConTeXt standalone 2014-04-28 standard and jit). Similarly, no problem with traditional font definition without simplefonts. What platform are you using, what version of Ezra SIL SR (likely 2.51, but worth asking)? -- rik kabel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Hebrew vowel placement in ConTeXt.
This seems to have broken in my latest upgrade. The diacriticals (vowels) are no longer centered under the Hebrew lettes. They are now misaligned again. Also, the script=hebr option in definefontfeature now generates an error (see the original code in the second message). The following code works but with misaligned vowels. So the ccmp option doesn't seem to be working anymore. \usemodule[simplefonts] \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][ccmp=yes,mark=yes] \setmainfont[Ezra SIL][features=hebrew] \setupalign[r2l] \starttext בְרֵאשִ֖ית בָרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ \stoptext Thank you very much for suggestions. Best, Michael On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Michael Ash m...@econs.umass.edu wrote: There is a nice answer from W. Schuster to the vowel placement question in the archives at http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2011/059969.html (I didn't find it because the subject is Misaligned Marks rather than Hebrew vowel placement but it resolves the question. (Idris's suggestions regarding options to \definefontfeature were right on -- thanks) and I also learned more about \setupalign http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupalign *I am trying to set some text in Hebrew with diacritical marks, and whenever there is a diacritical that's supposed to come in the middle of a letter, all the marks are coming off misaligned, right after the glyph rather than in the middle of it (or wherever they're supposed to be). * Solution: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][script=hebr,ccmp=yes,mark=yes] \setmainfont[Ezra SIL][features=hebrew] \setupalign[r2l] \starttext בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ \stoptext Thanks all. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Michael Ash m...@econs.umass.eduwrote: Thank you. The unicode text looked good (although reversed left-to-right as I sent it) in my sent mail, and it looked perfect (corrected right-to-left) in your response. But it did not look good in the digest email (all the letters were convered to ?'s). Also it's typesetting fine in ConTeXt except for the vowel placement. Any suggestions there? Thank you again. Yours, Michael On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد isha...@colostate.edu wrote: Greetings, Michael, On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:15:11 -0600, Michael Ash m...@econs.umass.edu wrote: Is there a standard way to send unicode text to this list? Your Unicode text came through perfectly: \textdir TRT \hebrew לָכֵן חַכּוּ־לִי נְאֻם־יְהוָה לְיוֹם קוּמִי לְעַד כִּי מִשְׁפָּטִי לֶאֱסֹף גּוֹיִם לְקָבְצִי מַמְלָכוֹת לִשְׁפֹּךְ עֲלֵיהֶם זַעְמִי כֹּל חֲרוֹן אַפִּי כִּי בְּאֵשׁ קִנְאָתִי תֵּאָכֵל כָּל־הָאָרֶץ׃ \stoptext Maybe the encoding of your browser/mail-client needs to be set to Unicode (Automatic usually works too). For high-level text-direction control, you may experiment with \righttoleft \lefttoright as well as \setupdirections[bidi=global] \setupdirections[bidi=local] Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Michael Ash, Chair, Department of Economics Professor of Economics and Public Policy University of Massachusetts Amherst, MA 01003 Email m...@econs.umass.edu Tel +1-413-545-2590 Twitter @michaelaoash -- Michael Ash, Chair, Department of Economics Professor of Economics and Public Policy University of Massachusetts Amherst, MA 01003 Email m...@econs.umass.edu Tel +1-413-545-2590 Twitter @michaelaoash -- Michael Ash, Chair, Department of Economics Professor of Economics and Public Policy University of Massachusetts Amherst Amherst, MA 01003 Email m...@econs.umass.edu Tel +1-413-545-2590 Twitter https://twitter.com/michaelaoash ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Hebrew vowel placement in ConTeXt.
I am new to ConTeXt and very impressed. Much thanks to Hans Hagen and Idris
Samawi Hamid for an excellent introduction.
I am using the Hebrew Ezra SIL Hebrew Unicode Fonts. My question concerns
the placement of the Hebrew vowel points (niqqud). For most letters, the
vowel points are placed too far to the left, as opposed to centered
directly under the letter.
A short example follows. For some of the letters, e.g., Hebrew Letter
Alef With Qamats (kind of a t-shaped vowel underneath the alef), the vowel
is correctly centered. For others it appears incorrectly to the left.
(This may be connected with whether the letter+vowel is packaged as a
single character or whether it is being composed on the fly.)
I have used the same font in several predecessor programs (the makor
package for lamed and the cjhebrew package for LaTeX) and the vowels points
are placed correctly.
Please let me know if you have any suggestions regarding adjusting the
placement of the vowel points. (ConTeXt version info is at the end of the
message.)
Thank you,
Michael
\definefontfeature[hebrew][arabic][script=hebr]
\definefont[hebrew][name:ezrasil]
\starttext
Zephania 3:8 includes all of the letters in the Hebrew alphabet, the
equivalent of \quotation{The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dogs} in
English.
\startalignment[left]
\textdir TRT
\hebrew
לָכֵן חַכּוּ־לִי נְאֻם־יְהוָה לְיוֹם קוּמִי לְעַד כִּי מִשְׁפָּטִי לֶאֱסֹף
גּוֹיִם לְקָבְצִי מַמְלָכוֹת לִשְׁפֹּךְ עֲלֵיהֶם זַעְמִי כֹּל חֲרוֹן אַפִּי
כִּי בְּאֵשׁ קִנְאָתִי תֵּאָכֵל כָּל־הָאָרֶץ׃
\stoptext
Here is the ConTeXt version and operating system:
$ uname -a
Linux mash-laptop 3.8.0-23-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 29 20:24:54 UTC
2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
$ context --version
mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 0.60
mtx-context |
mtx-context | main context file:
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.mkiv
mtx-context | current version: 2013.06.04 23:52
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Re: [NTG-context] Hebrew vowel placement in ConTeXt.
PS I see that the Hebrew text did not come through the list email (at least
not on the version that I received). Is there a standard way to send
unicode text to this list?
Best,
Michael
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Michael Ash m...@econs.umass.edu wrote:
I am new to ConTeXt and very impressed. Much thanks to Hans Hagen and Idris
Samawi Hamid for an excellent introduction.
I am using the Hebrew Ezra SIL Hebrew Unicode Fonts. My question concerns
the placement of the Hebrew vowel points (niqqud). For most letters, the
vowel points are placed too far to the left, as opposed to centered
directly under the letter.
A short example follows. For some of the letters, e.g., Hebrew Letter
Alef With Qamats (kind of a t-shaped vowel underneath the alef), the vowel
is correctly centered. For others it appears incorrectly to the left.
(This may be connected with whether the letter+vowel is packaged as a
single character or whether it is being composed on the fly.)
I have used the same font in several predecessor programs (the makor
package for lamed and the cjhebrew package for LaTeX) and the vowels points
are placed correctly.
Please let me know if you have any suggestions regarding adjusting the
placement of the vowel points. (ConTeXt version info is at the end of the
message.)
Thank you,
Michael
\definefontfeature[hebrew][arabic][script=hebr]
\definefont[hebrew][name:ezrasil]
\starttext
Zephania 3:8 includes all of the letters in the Hebrew alphabet, the
equivalent of \quotation{The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dogs} in
English.
\startalignment[left]
\textdir TRT
\hebrew
לָכֵן חַכּוּ־לִי נְאֻם־יְהוָה לְיוֹם קוּמִי לְעַד כִּי מִשְׁפָּטִי לֶאֱסֹף
גּוֹיִם לְקָבְצִי מַמְלָכוֹת לִשְׁפֹּךְ עֲלֵיהֶם זַעְמִי כֹּל חֲרוֹן אַפִּי
כִּי בְּאֵשׁ קִנְאָתִי תֵּאָכֵל כָּל־הָאָרֶץ׃
\stoptext
Here is the ConTeXt version and operating system:
$ uname -a
Linux mash-laptop 3.8.0-23-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 29 20:24:54 UTC
2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
$ context --version
mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 0.60
mtx-context |
mtx-context | main context file:
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.mkiv
mtx-context | current version: 2013.06.04 23:52
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Re: [NTG-context] Hebrew vowel placement in ConTeXt.
Greetings, Michael, On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:15:11 -0600, Michael Ash m...@econs.umass.edu wrote: Is there a standard way to send unicode text to this list? Your Unicode text came through perfectly: \textdir TRT \hebrew לָכֵן חַכּוּ־לִי נְאֻם־יְהוָה לְיוֹם קוּמִי לְעַד כִּי מִשְׁפָּטִי לֶאֱסֹף גּוֹיִם לְקָבְצִי מַמְלָכוֹת לִשְׁפֹּךְ עֲלֵיהֶם זַעְמִי כֹּל חֲרוֹן אַפִּי כִּי בְּאֵשׁ קִנְאָתִי תֵּאָכֵל כָּל־הָאָרֶץ׃ \stoptext Maybe the encoding of your browser/mail-client needs to be set to Unicode (Automatic usually works too). For high-level text-direction control, you may experiment with \righttoleft \lefttoright as well as \setupdirections[bidi=global] \setupdirections[bidi=local] Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Hebrew vowel placement in ConTeXt.
Thank you. The unicode text looked good (although reversed left-to-right as I sent it) in my sent mail, and it looked perfect (corrected right-to-left) in your response. But it did not look good in the digest email (all the letters were convered to ?'s). Also it's typesetting fine in ConTeXt except for the vowel placement. Any suggestions there? Thank you again. Yours, Michael On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد isha...@colostate.edu wrote: Greetings, Michael, On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:15:11 -0600, Michael Ash m...@econs.umass.edu wrote: Is there a standard way to send unicode text to this list? Your Unicode text came through perfectly: \textdir TRT \hebrew לָכֵן חַכּוּ־לִי נְאֻם־יְהוָה לְיוֹם קוּמִי לְעַד כִּי מִשְׁפָּטִי לֶאֱסֹף גּוֹיִם לְקָבְצִי מַמְלָכוֹת לִשְׁפֹּךְ עֲלֵיהֶם זַעְמִי כֹּל חֲרוֹן אַפִּי כִּי בְּאֵשׁ קִנְאָתִי תֵּאָכֵל כָּל־הָאָרֶץ׃ \stoptext Maybe the encoding of your browser/mail-client needs to be set to Unicode (Automatic usually works too). For high-level text-direction control, you may experiment with \righttoleft \lefttoright as well as \setupdirections[bidi=global] \setupdirections[bidi=local] Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Michael Ash, Chair, Department of Economics Professor of Economics and Public Policy University of Massachusetts Amherst, MA 01003 Email m...@econs.umass.edu Tel +1-413-545-2590 Twitter @michaelaoash ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Hebrew vowel placement in ConTeXt.
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:31:12 -0600, Michael Ash m...@econs.umass.edu wrote: Also it's typesetting fine in ConTeXt except for the vowel placement. Any suggestions there? Thank you again. You probably need the opentype features activated. Ezra has two features from what I can tell, so try something like this (totally untested): \definefontfeature [silezra] [mode=node,language=dflt,script=hbr, mark=yes,ccmp=yes] \definedfont[EzraSIL*silezra at 14pt]לָכֵן For mark and ccmp see http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/featurelist.htm Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Hebrew vowel placement in ConTeXt.
On 6/17/2013 6:42 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:
\definefontfeature
[silezra]
[mode=node,language=dflt,script=hbr,
mark=yes,ccmp=yes]
\definedfont[EzraSIL*silezra at 14pt]לָכֵן
it's 'hebr' (otherwise no proper mark placement)
\starttext
\definefontfeature
[silezra]
[default]
[mode=node,language=dflt,script=hebr,mark=yes,ccmp=yes]
\showotfcomposition{file:sileot*silezra}{r2l}{לָכֵן}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Hebrew vowel placement in ConTeXt.
There is a nice answer from W. Schuster to the vowel placement question in the archives at http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2011/059969.html (I didn't find it because the subject is Misaligned Marks rather than Hebrew vowel placement but it resolves the question. (Idris's suggestions regarding options to \definefontfeature were right on -- thanks) and I also learned more about \setupalign http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupalign *I am trying to set some text in Hebrew with diacritical marks, and whenever there is a diacritical that's supposed to come in the middle of a letter, all the marks are coming off misaligned, right after the glyph rather than in the middle of it (or wherever they're supposed to be). * Solution: \usemodule[simplefonts] \definefontfeature[hebrew][default][script=hebr,ccmp=yes,mark=yes] \setmainfont[Ezra SIL][features=hebrew] \setupalign[r2l] \starttext בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ \stoptext Thanks all. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Michael Ash m...@econs.umass.edu wrote: Thank you. The unicode text looked good (although reversed left-to-right as I sent it) in my sent mail, and it looked perfect (corrected right-to-left) in your response. But it did not look good in the digest email (all the letters were convered to ?'s). Also it's typesetting fine in ConTeXt except for the vowel placement. Any suggestions there? Thank you again. Yours, Michael On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد isha...@colostate.edu wrote: Greetings, Michael, On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:15:11 -0600, Michael Ash m...@econs.umass.edu wrote: Is there a standard way to send unicode text to this list? Your Unicode text came through perfectly: \textdir TRT \hebrew לָכֵן חַכּוּ־לִי נְאֻם־יְהוָה לְיוֹם קוּמִי לְעַד כִּי מִשְׁפָּטִי לֶאֱסֹף גּוֹיִם לְקָבְצִי מַמְלָכוֹת לִשְׁפֹּךְ עֲלֵיהֶם זַעְמִי כֹּל חֲרוֹן אַפִּי כִּי בְּאֵשׁ קִנְאָתִי תֵּאָכֵל כָּל־הָאָרֶץ׃ \stoptext Maybe the encoding of your browser/mail-client needs to be set to Unicode (Automatic usually works too). For high-level text-direction control, you may experiment with \righttoleft \lefttoright as well as \setupdirections[bidi=global] \setupdirections[bidi=local] Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Michael Ash, Chair, Department of Economics Professor of Economics and Public Policy University of Massachusetts Amherst, MA 01003 Email m...@econs.umass.edu Tel +1-413-545-2590 Twitter @michaelaoash -- Michael Ash, Chair, Department of Economics Professor of Economics and Public Policy University of Massachusetts Amherst, MA 01003 Email m...@econs.umass.edu Tel +1-413-545-2590 Twitter @michaelaoash ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
