Re: Re[2]: [NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so many trees

2004-02-23 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
On Feb 18, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

\textbraceleft and \textbraceright should
work ok if encodings are set up correctly.
Your're right, it works as expected. Thanks a lot!

All best

Thomas

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Re: [NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so many trees

2004-02-20 Thread Hans Hagen
At 09:17 17/02/2004, Thomas A.Schmitz wrote:
Sorry for going back to an older thread, but I don't think the question 
was answered properly. Alexander Klink wanted to know how to typeset { 
and }. Suggestions were \type|{| and \type|}| or $\{$ and $\}$. 
Neither of which is satisfactory, because it will typeset them either in 
typewriter or in math font. We had a discussion about similar questions a 
while ago. I still think we should have \{ and \} for
this kind of thing. As long as this isn't available, I see no better 
solution than \getglyph{Serif}{123} and \getglyph{Serif}{125} vel. 
sim. For those of us working in the humanities, these curly braces are 
sometimes necessary (e.g., in critical editions), and having them in 
typewriter or math fonts isn't acceptable. So may I continue my rally for 
\{ etc.?
The problem is that the cmr fonts are not that complete. Once we switch to 
the lmr fonts, this problem will disappear (sincethen we can use other 
encoding vectors)

Hans



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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so many trees

2004-02-19 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Tuesday, February 17, 2004 Thomas A.Schmitz wrote:

 Sorry for going back to an older thread, but I don't think the question
 was answered properly. Alexander Klink wanted to know how to typeset
 { and }. Suggestions were \type|{| and \type|}| or $\{$ and
 $\}$. Neither of which is satisfactory, because it will typeset them
 either in typewriter or in math font. We had a discussion about similar
 questions a while ago. I still think we should have \{ and \} for
 this kind of thing. As long as this isn't available, I see no better
 solution than \getglyph{Serif}{123} and
 \getglyph{Serif}{125} vel. 
 sim. For those of us working in the humanities, these curly braces are
 sometimes necessary (e.g., in critical editions), and having them in
 typewriter or math fonts isn't acceptable. So may I continue my rally
 for \{ etc.?

Sorry for the delay. \textbraceleft and \textbraceright should
work ok if encodings are set up correctly.

-- 
Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta

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Re: [NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so many trees

2004-02-18 Thread Hans Hagen
At 07:24 18/02/2004, you wrote:
A couple of fonts, including Computer Modern Roman, do not have
curly braces as glyphs. As Computer Modern Roman is the brick-and-mortar
font of TeX, few people bother that there is no explicit token/command
that evokes it.
mayhe changing to LatinModern will help, since that's a complete font ...

Hans

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RE: [NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so many trees

2004-02-17 Thread Höppner, Dierk
Hello Tobias and Alexander,

both works. Thank you. I didnt know that I can use '|' instead of '{'}. But
one thing does not work:

{\bf $\{$} 

does not print the '{' bold faced :-(

Is there a workaround for this problem?

Greetings

Dierk Höppner

 -Original Message-
 From: Tobias Burnus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 4:04 PM
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 many trees
 
 
 Hello,
 
 On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 01:29:48PM +0100, Alexander Klink wrote:
   How do I print '{' and '}'. You may answer with RTFM but 
 please name the M
   and page!
  what about \type|{| and \type|}| (just like \verb in LaTeX)?
 Or $\{$ and $\}$ which uses the math font instead of the typewriter
 front.
 
 Regards,
 
 Tobias
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Re: [NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so many trees

2004-02-17 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Sorry for going back to an older thread, but I don't think the question 
was answered properly. Alexander Klink wanted to know how to typeset 
{ and }. Suggestions were \type|{| and \type|}| or $\{$ and 
$\}$. Neither of which is satisfactory, because it will typeset them 
either in typewriter or in math font. We had a discussion about similar 
questions a while ago. I still think we should have \{ and \} for  
this kind of thing. As long as this isn't available, I see no better 
solution than \getglyph{Serif}{123} and \getglyph{Serif}{125} vel. 
sim. For those of us working in the humanities, these curly braces are 
sometimes necessary (e.g., in critical editions), and having them in 
typewriter or math fonts isn't acceptable. So may I continue my rally 
for \{ etc.?

All best

Thomas

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Re: [NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so many trees

2004-02-17 Thread Johannes Hüsing
A couple of fonts, including Computer Modern Roman, do not have 
curly braces as glyphs. As Computer Modern Roman is the brick-and-mortar
font of TeX, few people bother that there is no explicit token/command
that evokes it.

You have a point though.

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RE: [NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so many trees

2004-02-17 Thread Höppner, Dierk
I would second that. I can use it in computer program documentation for many
different things.

Greetings

Dierk

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 From: Thomas A.Schmitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 many trees
 
 
 Sorry for going back to an older thread, but I don't think 
 the question 
 was answered properly. Alexander Klink wanted to know how to typeset 
 { and }. Suggestions were \type|{| and \type|}| or $\{$ and 
 $\}$. Neither of which is satisfactory, because it will typeset them 
 either in typewriter or in math font. We had a discussion 
 about similar 
 questions a while ago. I still think we should have \{ and 
 \} for  
 this kind of thing. As long as this isn't available, I see no better 
 solution than \getglyph{Serif}{123} and 
 \getglyph{Serif}{125} vel. 
 sim. For those of us working in the humanities, these curly 
 braces are 
 sometimes necessary (e.g., in critical editions), and having them in 
 typewriter or math fonts isn't acceptable. So may I continue my rally 
 for \{ etc.?
 
 All best
 
 Thomas
 
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[NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so many trees

2004-02-13 Thread Höppner, Dierk
Hello,

just a short and simple question with hopefully a quick answer:

How do I print '{' and '}'. You may answer with RTFM but please name the M
and page!

Thanks and sorry for the simple question.

greetings

Dierk Höppner
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Re: [NTG-context] Not seeing the wood because of so many trees

2004-02-13 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hello,

On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 01:29:48PM +0100, Alexander Klink wrote:
  How do I print '{' and '}'. You may answer with RTFM but please name the M
  and page!
 what about \type|{| and \type|}| (just like \verb in LaTeX)?
Or $\{$ and $\}$ which uses the math font instead of the typewriter
front.

Regards,

Tobias
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