[NTG-context] Re: Bibliography cite
Dear Alan,
Thanks for your response. What I need in fact is this
Knuth (1984:12).
I am sorry for the confusion.
I will try your suggestions!
Robert
> Op 4 aug. 2023, om 13:57 heeft Alan Braslau het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> Indeed, one does not need the comma, it is programmed in the style.
> You can see this in the manual, on p. 43 documenting citations.
>
> The style is setup to put the righttext inside the parenthesis for
> alternative=authoryear and outside of the year parenthesis for
> alternative=authoryears.
>
> I looked carefully in the APA Style Guide and did not find any suggestion
> that one should use Knuth (1984, p. 3). The variant (Knuth, 1984, p. 3) is
> documented.
>
> You can make the following changes (untested)
> \setupbtx [apa:cite:author:years] [right=]
> \setupbtx [apa:cite:authoryears] [right={)}]
> to get the other behavior.
>
> --
> Alan
>
>
> On 01/08/23 01/08/23, 23:26, Robert via ntg-context wrote:
>> Thank you, Alan for the suggestion.
>> I tried as you said: \cite[alternative=authoryears,righttext={{, p.
>> 3}}][Knuth1984].
>> Yet the result is this: Knuth (1984), , p. 3
>> If I leave out the first comma, the result is: Knuth (1984), p. 3
>> Righttext probably refers to the text outside the parentheses.
>> Thank you in advance,
>> Robert.
>>> Op 1 aug. 2023, om 22:42 heeft Alan Braslau het
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>> Using the APA specification:
>>>
>>> \usebtxdefinitions
>>>[apa]
>>>
>>>
>>> you can then
>>>
>>> \cite[alternative=authoryears,righttext={{, p.\nbsp 12}}] [Knuth1984]
>>> mentions ….
>>>
>>>
>>> The tricky part concerning righttext= is the double {{ }}, needed because
>>> the text contains a comma. The reason for this is simple, as righttext is a
>>> comma-separated list, where each entry corresponds to a cited reference, as
>>> in \cite[righttext={a,b}] [ref1,ref2]
>>> so a is associated with ref1 and b is associated with ref2.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/08/23 01/08/23, 15:37, Robert via ntg-context wrote:
Dear List members,
For my academic work with context I need the following cite according to
Apa standards:
Knuth (1984, p. 12) mentions ….
The matrix is this:
AUTHOR (, p.~n).
I reckon this can somehow be accomplished with the \setupbtx command.
(Standard these and other variants are possible: AUTHOR () and AUTHOR
, p. n.)
I tried different setups: \setupbtx[apa:cite:authoryear], and
\setupbtx[apa:cite:authoryears], I played with the lefttext, righttext and
other options, but none of them give the desired result.
Thank you for any suggestions.
Regards,
Robert
@article{Knuth1984,
author={Knuth, Donald E.},
title={Literate Programming},
journal={The Computer Journal}, Volume={27}, Number={2}, year={1984},
Pages={97--111},
}
>>
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[NTG-context] Re: Bibliography cite
Indeed, one does not need the comma, it is programmed in the style.
You can see this in the manual, on p. 43 documenting citations.
The style is setup to put the righttext inside the parenthesis for
alternative=authoryear and outside of the year parenthesis for
alternative=authoryears.
I looked carefully in the APA Style Guide and did not find any
suggestion that one should use Knuth (1984, p. 3). The variant (Knuth,
1984, p. 3) is documented.
You can make the following changes (untested)
\setupbtx [apa:cite:author:years] [right=]
\setupbtx [apa:cite:authoryears] [right={)}]
to get the other behavior.
--
Alan
On 01/08/23 01/08/23, 23:26, Robert via ntg-context wrote:
Thank you, Alan for the suggestion.
I tried as you said: \cite[alternative=authoryears,righttext={{, p.
3}}][Knuth1984].
Yet the result is this: Knuth (1984), , p. 3
If I leave out the first comma, the result is: Knuth (1984), p. 3
Righttext probably refers to the text outside the parentheses.
Thank you in advance,
Robert.
Op 1 aug. 2023, om 22:42 heeft Alan Braslau
het volgende geschreven:
Using the APA specification:
\usebtxdefinitions
[apa]
you can then
\cite[alternative=authoryears,righttext={{, p.\nbsp 12}}] [Knuth1984]
mentions ….
The tricky part concerning righttext= is the double {{ }}, needed
because the text contains a comma. The reason for this is simple, as
righttext is a comma-separated list, where each entry corresponds to a
cited reference, as in \cite[righttext={a,b}] [ref1,ref2]
so a is associated with ref1 and b is associated with ref2.
Alan
On 01/08/23 01/08/23, 15:37, Robert via ntg-context wrote:
Dear List members,
For my academic work with context I need the following cite according
to Apa standards:
Knuth (1984, p. 12) mentions ….
The matrix is this:
AUTHOR (, p.~n).
I reckon this can somehow be accomplished with the \setupbtx command.
(Standard these and other variants are possible: AUTHOR () and
AUTHOR , p. n.)
I tried different setups: \setupbtx[apa:cite:authoryear], and
\setupbtx[apa:cite:authoryears], I played with the lefttext,
righttext and other options, but none of them give the desired result.
Thank you for any suggestions.
Regards,
Robert
@article{Knuth1984,
author={Knuth, Donald E.},
title={Literate Programming},
journal={The Computer Journal}, Volume={27}, Number={2}, year={1984},
Pages={97--111},
}
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[NTG-context] Re: Bibliography cite
Thank you, Alan for the suggestion.
I tried as you said: \cite[alternative=authoryears,righttext={{, p.
3}}][Knuth1984].
Yet the result is this: Knuth (1984), , p. 3
If I leave out the first comma, the result is: Knuth (1984), p. 3
Righttext probably refers to the text outside the parentheses.
Thank you in advance,
Robert.
> Op 1 aug. 2023, om 22:42 heeft Alan Braslau het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> Using the APA specification:
>
> \usebtxdefinitions
>[apa]
>
>
> you can then
>
> \cite[alternative=authoryears,righttext={{, p.\nbsp 12}}] [Knuth1984]
> mentions ….
>
>
> The tricky part concerning righttext= is the double {{ }}, needed because the
> text contains a comma. The reason for this is simple, as righttext is a
> comma-separated list, where each entry corresponds to a cited reference, as
> in \cite[righttext={a,b}] [ref1,ref2]
> so a is associated with ref1 and b is associated with ref2.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> On 01/08/23 01/08/23, 15:37, Robert via ntg-context wrote:
>> Dear List members,
>> For my academic work with context I need the following cite according to Apa
>> standards:
>> Knuth (1984, p. 12) mentions ….
>> The matrix is this:
>> AUTHOR (, p.~n).
>> I reckon this can somehow be accomplished with the \setupbtx command.
>> (Standard these and other variants are possible: AUTHOR () and AUTHOR
>> , p. n.)
>> I tried different setups: \setupbtx[apa:cite:authoryear], and
>> \setupbtx[apa:cite:authoryears], I played with the lefttext, righttext and
>> other options, but none of them give the desired result.
>> Thank you for any suggestions.
>> Regards,
>> Robert
>> @article{Knuth1984,
>> author={Knuth, Donald E.},
>> title={Literate Programming},
>> journal={The Computer Journal}, Volume={27}, Number={2}, year={1984},
>> Pages={97--111},
>> }
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[NTG-context] Re: Bibliography cite
Using the APA specification:
\usebtxdefinitions
[apa]
you can then
\cite[alternative=authoryears,righttext={{, p.\nbsp 12}}] [Knuth1984]
mentions ….
The tricky part concerning righttext= is the double {{ }}, needed
because the text contains a comma. The reason for this is simple, as
righttext is a comma-separated list, where each entry corresponds to a
cited reference, as in \cite[righttext={a,b}] [ref1,ref2]
so a is associated with ref1 and b is associated with ref2.
Alan
On 01/08/23 01/08/23, 15:37, Robert via ntg-context wrote:
Dear List members,
For my academic work with context I need the following cite according to Apa
standards:
Knuth (1984, p. 12) mentions ….
The matrix is this:
AUTHOR (, p.~n).
I reckon this can somehow be accomplished with the \setupbtx command.
(Standard these and other variants are possible: AUTHOR () and AUTHOR ,
p. n.)
I tried different setups: \setupbtx[apa:cite:authoryear], and
\setupbtx[apa:cite:authoryears], I played with the lefttext, righttext and
other options, but none of them give the desired result.
Thank you for any suggestions.
Regards,
Robert
@article{Knuth1984,
author={Knuth, Donald E.},
title={Literate Programming},
journal={The Computer Journal}, Volume={27}, Number={2}, year={1984},
Pages={97--111},
}
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