[NTG-context] Re: Math manual

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Am Sonntag, 16. Juni 2024, 18:59:52 MESZ schrieb skyhorse--- via ntg-context:
> 
> Mikael Sundqvist  wrote:
> >
> > ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-screen.pdf
> > ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-paper.pdf
> >
> 
> 
> Sorry about my locational ignorance, but where can I view this document?
> 
> I only have  - math-mkiv.pdf
>- math-tweaks.pdf
> in my dir:
> /opt/context-lmtx/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals
> 
> 
> Can you please provide me with the URL to the directory?
> 
> Thank you

Additionally to the other answers here, you can also find them on Github:
https://github.com/contextgarden/context/blob/main/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-paper.pdf

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[NTG-context] Re: Math manual

[Wolfgang Schuster]

skyhorse--- via ntg-context schrieb am 16.06.2024 um 18:59:

Mikael Sundqvist  wrote:

./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-screen.pdf
./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-paper.pdf



Sorry about my locational ignorance, but where can I view this document?

I only have  - math-mkiv.pdf
 - math-tweaks.pdf
 in my dir:
/opt/context-lmtx/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals


Can you please provide me with the URL to the directory?


You need at least version 2024.06.14 to get the manuals, if they are 
missing on your system the installed context version is tool old.


Another way to get the manuals is from the Pragma website:

- https://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mathincontext-paper.pdf
- https://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mathincontext-screen.pdf

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Re: Math manual

[Jethro Djan]

Hi,

On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 at 5:13 PM, skyhorse--- via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

>
> Mikael Sundqvist  wrote:
> >
> >
> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-screen.pdf
> >
> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-paper.pdf
> >
>

> Sorry about my locational ignorance, but where can I view this document?
>

I think if you update to the latest using
sh install.sh
once you are in your ConTeXt directory, you should find it there where
Mikael says it is.

Jethro

>
> I only have  - math-mkiv.pdf
>  - math-tweaks.pdf
> in my dir:
> /opt/context-lmtx/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals
>
>
> Can you please provide me with the URL to the directory?
>
> Thank you
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[NTG-context] Re: Math manual

[skyhorse--- via ntg-context]

Mikael Sundqvist  wrote:
>
> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-screen.pdf
> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-paper.pdf
>


Sorry about my locational ignorance, but where can I view this document?

I only have  - math-mkiv.pdf
 - math-tweaks.pdf
in my dir:
/opt/context-lmtx/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals


Can you please provide me with the URL to the directory?

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[NTG-context] Re: Math manual

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/16/2024 12:39 PM, Fabrice Couvreur wrote:

Hi,
Thank you for this document which will help many people, including me. 
Quick question : this document seems to have been written in the Pagella 
font : is this correct ? Why this choice : Personal ? The most complete 
and nice font ?

Indeed.

Cambria is the reference of course but Pagella is free and we like it. 
We could have gone Lucida but it's not free either (but rather cheap and 
we fixed some in the process). Euler is also nice. We also had Bonum for 
a while (a bit bolder). Of course most fonts share alphabets. The Xits 
font is quite complete but kind of standard boring. We definitely will 
never for a can-of-worms sans for a document like this.


That said: all fonts needed tweaks, some more than others, because there 
is the inconsistent curious mix of font parameters, traditional and 
opentype properties etc to deal with, much of which we published about 
in e.g. TB in the process (as well as in documents in the 
distribuition). There ars also math companion fonts in the distribition 
that fix consistency issues in fonts (we consider most to be frozen).


Concerning complete: many unicode math characters are dubious and we 
wonder what they're used for, if at all while some other handy math 
symbols are missing.


Hans


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[NTG-context] Re: Math manual

[Fabrice Couvreur]

Hi,
Thank you for this document which will help many people, including me.
Quick question : this document seems to have been written in the Pagella
font : is this correct ? Why this choice : Personal ? The most complete and
nice font ?
Fabrice

Le sam. 15 juin 2024 à 17:50, Jeong Dal via ntg-context 
a écrit :

> Dear Hans and Mikael,
>
> I appreciate for all the efforts to make a nicer math output and for the
> math manual.
> I hope that a few problems in math are gone away in this new version.
>
> The math writing in ConTeXt was getting better and better to this point.
> I’ll learn many things from this manual.
>
> Thanks again and have a nice weekend.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dalyoung
>
>
>
> 2024. 6. 15. 오전 6:22, Otared Kavian  작성:
>
> Hi Hans and Mikael,
>
> I just could update to the latest ConTeXt (after afew hassles with xattr
> on MacOS…), and went straight to find mathincontext-screen.pdf.
> Thank you so much for this superbe manual! It is really wonderful in all
> aspects!
>
> As Aditya says, there is no excuse for mathematicians not to use ConTeXt
> (apart the usual laziness in many of my colleagues…).
>
> Best regards: Otared
>
> On 14 Jun 2024, at 09:46, Mikael Sundqvist  wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Hans just uploaded a new version. I am not writing about the news in
> that version (although there are some fun things!), but rather to
> announce that the math manual is finally included.
>
> We have been working on and off since 2021 on math and therefore also
> on this document, and we finally believe that both math and the
> document are now in a state that should be sufficiently useful and not
> too confusing. You can find a screen and a paper version:
>
>
> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-screen.pdf
>
> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-paper.pdf
>
> The versions are generated from the same tex files, so the content
> (except for some chapter pages only available in the screen version)
> should be the same.
>
> We hope that this will be useful for all of you who use math in your
> documents. If you have any questions, find any errors, or miss
> something, please let us know. We consider the document not to be
> finished, so there will be updates. Also, we will also at some point
> include the tex files, but that will have to wait a bit.
>
> /Hans and Mikael
>
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[NTG-context] Re: Math manual

[Jeong Dal via ntg-context]

Dear Hans and Mikael,

I appreciate for all the efforts to make a nicer math output and for the math 
manual.
I hope that a few problems in math are gone away in this new version.

The math writing in ConTeXt was getting better and better to this point.
I’ll learn many things from this manual.

Thanks again and have a nice weekend.

Best regards,

Dalyoung



> 2024. 6. 15. 오전 6:22, Otared Kavian  작성:
> 
> Hi Hans and Mikael,
> 
> I just could update to the latest ConTeXt (after afew hassles with xattr on 
> MacOS…), and went straight to find mathincontext-screen.pdf.
> Thank you so much for this superbe manual! It is really wonderful in all 
> aspects!
> 
> As Aditya says, there is no excuse for mathematicians not to use ConTeXt 
> (apart the usual laziness in many of my colleagues…).
> 
> Best regards: Otared
> 
>> On 14 Jun 2024, at 09:46, Mikael Sundqvist > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Hans just uploaded a new version. I am not writing about the news in
>> that version (although there are some fun things!), but rather to
>> announce that the math manual is finally included.
>> 
>> We have been working on and off since 2021 on math and therefore also
>> on this document, and we finally believe that both math and the
>> document are now in a state that should be sufficiently useful and not
>> too confusing. You can find a screen and a paper version:
>> 
>> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-screen.pdf
>> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-paper.pdf
>> 
>> The versions are generated from the same tex files, so the content
>> (except for some chapter pages only available in the screen version)
>> should be the same.
>> 
>> We hope that this will be useful for all of you who use math in your
>> documents. If you have any questions, find any errors, or miss
>> something, please let us know. We consider the document not to be
>> finished, so there will be updates. Also, we will also at some point
>> include the tex files, but that will have to wait a bit.
>> 
>> /Hans and Mikael
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> 
> 
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[NTG-context] Re: Math manual

[Jethro Djan]

Hi Hans and Mikael,

The manual is great. Solves most of my challenges. Very handy as I am also
writing a math thesis in it. Off topic but does anyone have a source for a
RECENT math presentation they wrote using ConTeXt they can share?  Would be
very helpful.

Thanks for your hard work.

Jethro

On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 at 9:23 PM, Otared Kavian  wrote:

> Hi Hans and Mikael,
>
> I just could update to the latest ConTeXt (after afew hassles with xattr
> on MacOS…), and went straight to find mathincontext-screen.pdf.
> Thank you so much for this superbe manual! It is really wonderful in all
> aspects!
>
> As Aditya says, there is no excuse for mathematicians not to use ConTeXt
> (apart the usual laziness in many of my colleagues…).
>
> Best regards: Otared
>
>
> On 14 Jun 2024, at 09:46, Mikael Sundqvist  wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Hans just uploaded a new version. I am not writing about the news in
> that version (although there are some fun things!), but rather to
> announce that the math manual is finally included.
>
> We have been working on and off since 2021 on math and therefore also
> on this document, and we finally believe that both math and the
> document are now in a state that should be sufficiently useful and not
> too confusing. You can find a screen and a paper version:
>
>
> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-screen.pdf
>
> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-paper.pdf
>
> The versions are generated from the same tex files, so the content
> (except for some chapter pages only available in the screen version)
> should be the same.
>
> We hope that this will be useful for all of you who use math in your
> documents. If you have any questions, find any errors, or miss
> something, please let us know. We consider the document not to be
> finished, so there will be updates. Also, we will also at some point
> include the tex files, but that will have to wait a bit.
>
> /Hans and Mikael
>
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[NTG-context] Re: Math manual

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Hans and Mikael,

I just could update to the latest ConTeXt (after afew hassles with xattr on 
MacOS…), and went straight to find mathincontext-screen.pdf.
Thank you so much for this superbe manual! It is really wonderful in all 
aspects!

As Aditya says, there is no excuse for mathematicians not to use ConTeXt (apart 
the usual laziness in many of my colleagues…).

Best regards: Otared

> On 14 Jun 2024, at 09:46, Mikael Sundqvist  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Hans just uploaded a new version. I am not writing about the news in
> that version (although there are some fun things!), but rather to
> announce that the math manual is finally included.
> 
> We have been working on and off since 2021 on math and therefore also
> on this document, and we finally believe that both math and the
> document are now in a state that should be sufficiently useful and not
> too confusing. You can find a screen and a paper version:
> 
> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-screen.pdf
> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-paper.pdf
> 
> The versions are generated from the same tex files, so the content
> (except for some chapter pages only available in the screen version)
> should be the same.
> 
> We hope that this will be useful for all of you who use math in your
> documents. If you have any questions, find any errors, or miss
> something, please let us know. We consider the document not to be
> finished, so there will be updates. Also, we will also at some point
> include the tex files, but that will have to wait a bit.
> 
> /Hans and Mikael
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[NTG-context] Re: Math manual

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 14 Jun 2024, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:

> Hans just uploaded a new version. I am not writing about the news in
> that version (although there are some fun things!), but rather to
> announce that the math manual is finally included.
> 
> We have been working on and off since 2021 on math and therefore also
> on this document, and we finally believe that both math and the
> document are now in a state that should be sufficiently useful and not
> too confusing. You can find a screen and a paper version:

Thank you for the excellent and well written manual! Now there is no excuse for 
mathematicians not to use ConTeXt :-)

Aditya


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[NTG-context] Re: Math manual

[Alex]

Excellent! Thanks for the great effort.

BR,

Alex
Le 14 juin 2024 à 12:04 +0200, Mikael Sundqvist , a écrit :
> Hi!
>
> Hans just uploaded a new version. I am not writing about the news in
> that version (although there are some fun things!), but rather to
> announce that the math manual is finally included.
>
> We have been working on and off since 2021 on math and therefore also
> on this document, and we finally believe that both math and the
> document are now in a state that should be sufficiently useful and not
> too confusing. You can find a screen and a paper version:
>
> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-screen.pdf
> ./tex/texmf-context/doc/context/documents/general/manuals/mathincontext-paper.pdf
>
> The versions are generated from the same tex files, so the content
> (except for some chapter pages only available in the screen version)
> should be the same.
>
> We hope that this will be useful for all of you who use math in your
> documents. If you have any questions, find any errors, or miss
> something, please let us know. We consider the document not to be
> finished, so there will be updates. Also, we will also at some point
> include the tex files, but that will have to wait a bit.
>
> /Hans and Mikael
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