Re: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind

2003-12-12 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Gary Pajer wrote:

 C:\Documents and Settings\Gary Pajer\My Documentstexexec --verbose

  TeXExec 3.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003

   current path : C:/Documents and Settings/Gary Pajer/My Documents
  locating ini file : not found by kpsewhich
  locating ini file : not found by searching
  locating ini file : no environment variable set
  locating ini file : not found in own path
warning : texexec.ini not found, did you read 'texexec.rme'?

 It's really not finding it.  The thing that surprises me is that no-one else
 has mentioned this.  That's why I keep thinking that I've done something
 wrong.

Maybe trying to run ConTeXt with MikTeX instead of using TeX Live 2003,
or trying to run ConTeXt in a Win32 configuration that puts spaces in
the paths?

We are running ConTeXt under TL2003 (with a newer cont-tmf.zip and pdftex
1.11b) on SGI Irix because the Win32 PC's I tried did not survive the
experience.  At home I find TL2003 (same updates) works well on linux. The
unix systems don't let spaces into paths (and did fail in pre-release
testing if I tried to run in a directory like a b).

I reported the above problem with the TL2003 pre-release tests.  Using the
current cont-tmf.zip gets you a TeXExec 4.0 that seems more robust, but
that could be because I also abandoned a configuration that puts spaces in
the paths (e.g., install to C:\TeXLive and set HOME=C:\Home).

One system (Win98) had problems with forward slashes in the argument to
perl's backtick, but then the hard disk failed and I've been waiting since
Sept. for the warranty replacement to arrive.  TeX Live 2003 texexec seems
to be hard on PC's -- maybe because when kpathsea fails texexec.pl
recursively searches the drive for the ini file.  In any case, after the
1st PC died I tried to install TL2003 on another machine which also failed
(terminal overheating) while creating formats after installing the fpTeX
updates.  Maybe cheap PC clones can't tolerate ls-R too many times in a
short time period.

btw -- before the machine died I did notice that the new version of fpTeX
has a 1.11b pdftex.

I've been asked to put TL2003 on a ThinkPad running XP -- hope it survives
the experience!

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Re: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind

2003-12-12 Thread Peter Rolf
Hello Gray,

get a copy of filemon for your M$ Windows version from www.sysinterals.com.
This free tool shows you all kind of file operations on your system.
Just unpack and start filemon.exe and enter texexec* in the Include: part
of the appearing filter dialog. Enable Advanced Output in the 
options menu.

After that start texexec --verbose in your shell.
The rest is on you... ;)
Hope this helps,

  Peter

Gary Pajer wrote:

  warning : texexec.ini not found, did you read
 

'texexec.rme'?
 

It's really not finding it.  The thing that surprises me is that no-one
 

else
 

has mentioned this.  That's why I keep thinking that I've done something
wrong.
 

Maybe trying to run ConTeXt with MikTeX instead of using TeX Live 2003,
or trying to run ConTeXt in a Win32 configuration that puts spaces in
the paths?
   

[longish comments deleted]

Thanks for your comments, George.
FWIW, I don't have any spaces in my MiKTeX directory tree, but I do use the
default XP system for organizing document files, and that system does have a
lot of spaces (e.g.,  Documents and Settings)
I'm not married to MiKTeX, so I can switch to fpTeX.   Any comments?
From what I can tell, fpTeX has better ConTeXt integration, while MiKTeX has
a better system for keeping up to date.
Anything else?
-gary

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Re: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind

2003-12-11 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Thursday, December 11, 2003 Gary Pajer wrote:

 MiKTeX.

 I've done this half a dozen times. This time it doesn't work.  I feel
 stupid.  What have I forgotten?

 Things were working perfectly.  I decide to update, so I download
 cont-tmf.zip to \localtexmf.  Then I unzip, overwritting all the old files.
 Then I update the database either using mktexlsr or the MiKTeX options
 wizard.

 But now texexec can't find texexec.ini.  But it's there, in
 \localtexmf\context\config  (as well as \texmf\context\config)

 BTW,  if I execute kpsewhich texexec.ini  it returns without an error, but
 also with no information.  Is that right?

Yes, and that's the problem. Recent ConTeXts are too strongly
tied to fpTeX :\

One thing you can do: move your texexec.ini in the same folder
as texexec.pl

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Re: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind

2003-12-11 Thread Gary Pajer


 Thursday, December 11, 2003 Gary Pajer wrote:

  MiKTeX.

  I've done this half a dozen times. This time it doesn't work.  I feel
  stupid.  What have I forgotten?

  Things were working perfectly.  I decide to update, so I download
  cont-tmf.zip to \localtexmf.  Then I unzip, overwritting all the old
files.
  Then I update the database either using mktexlsr or the MiKTeX options
  wizard.

  But now texexec can't find texexec.ini.  But it's there, in
  \localtexmf\context\config  (as well as \texmf\context\config)

  BTW,  if I execute kpsewhich texexec.ini  it returns without an error,
but
  also with no information.  Is that right?

 Yes, and that's the problem. Recent ConTeXts are too strongly
 tied to fpTeX :\

 One thing you can do: move your texexec.ini in the same folder
 as texexec.pl

Thanks, but that didn't work.  I still have a nagging feeling that I'm
forgetting something simple.
MiKTeX comes with a texexec.exe.  Putting texexec.ini in the same directory
doesn't do it either.
Is there an environment variable that I can set to help texexec find its
way?
Or a command line switch?  (I have not found mention of either in the docs)
(Putting texexec.ini in the directory containing the ConTeXt .tex script
works.)

-gary

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind

2003-12-11 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Thursday, December 11, 2003 Gary Pajer wrote:

 Thanks, but that didn't work.  I still have a nagging feeling that I'm
 forgetting something simple.
 MiKTeX comes with a texexec.exe.  Putting texexec.ini in the same directory
 doesn't do it either.

First of all, don't use the ConTeXt package that comes with
MikTeX. Simply don't. Remove it, if you have it uninstalled.
You should only use the distributed cont-tmf.zip of PRAGMA, and
use the Perl script texexec.pl in /localtexmf/context/perltk;
and texexec.ini should stay there (and make sure you're running
*that* texexec.pl)

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[NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind

2003-12-10 Thread Gary Pajer
MiKTeX.

I've done this half a dozen times. This time it doesn't work.  I feel
stupid.  What have I forgotten?

Things were working perfectly.  I decide to update, so I download
cont-tmf.zip to \localtexmf.  Then I unzip, overwritting all the old files.
Then I update the database either using mktexlsr or the MiKTeX options
wizard.

But now texexec can't find texexec.ini.  But it's there, in
\localtexmf\context\config  (as well as \texmf\context\config)

BTW,  if I execute kpsewhich texexec.ini  it returns without an error, but
also with no information.  Is that right?

-gary

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