Re: [NTG-context] format generation -- again!
On Jun 1, 2006, at 6:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Bowen wrote: On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Bowen wrote: Using the latest version of Gerben’s i-Installer (expert mode), I completely erased teTeX, re-installed the 2005 x86pc version, and then re-installed the latest ConTeXt. cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/ grep agr cont-en.log produces encoding: coding agr is loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/enco-agr.tex) language: patterns for agr not loaded language: patterns for agr not loaded and no more, which means that the ancient Greek hyphenation patterns are not available, though they presumably should be since the files lang-agr.hyp and lang-agr.pat are in the right place, /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/. When I try to regenerate the formats using sudo ruby /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/scripts/context/ruby/ texmfstart.rb texexec --make --all I get the error message language: patterns agr for agr loaded (n=24,e=agr,m=agr) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang- agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 α2Ϊ 1 ? So no Greek hyphenation. I am baffled. And Thomas cannot reproduce the problem at his end. So, if anyone has any suggestions they will be gratefully received. By the way, if it is at all relevant, I am running Mac OS X 10.4.6 on a Power Mac G4 450 MHz. Alan it looks like tetex does not use the -8bit switch (to pdfetex) or loads the natural tcx file; (you may try texexec --make instead) [patterns are now in utf-8 so this is why it show up now, but in fact your installation has never been 8 bit clean upto now] Hans Thanks, Hans. I tried texexec --make --all but the regeneration fails as before, with the lines (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang- agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 α2Ϊ 1 ? Does the MacTeX distribution have the same problem? is there a natural.tcx file on your system? and is loading it reported? in the worst case you can say: ctxtools --pat and move the generated pattern files to tex/context/patterns Hans Hans— There is a natural.tcx in /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/ but this is not mentioned in cont-en.log. It is loaded when I compile a file: This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5) (format=cont-en 2006.6.1) 1 JUN 2006 07:58 entering extended mode (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/natural.tcx) **cont-en 2005-12-03_Lautner.tex (./2005-12-03_Lautner.tex ConTeXt ver: 2006.05.28 13:28 fmt: 2006.6.1 int: english mes: english Where does ctxtools --pat generate the files? Alan ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] format generation -- again!
On Jun 2, 2006, at 7:27 AM, Alan Bowen wrote: On Jun 1, 2006, at 6:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Bowen wrote: On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Bowen wrote: Using the latest version of Gerben’s i-Installer (expert mode), I completely erased teTeX, re-installed the 2005 x86pc version, and then re-installed the latest ConTeXt. cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/ grep agr cont-en.log produces encoding: coding agr is loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/enco- agr.tex) language: patterns for agr not loaded language: patterns for agr not loaded and no more, which means that the ancient Greek hyphenation patterns are not available, though they presumably should be since the files lang-agr.hyp and lang-agr.pat are in the right place, /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/. When I try to regenerate the formats using sudo ruby /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/scripts/context/ruby/ texmfstart.rb texexec --make --all I get the error message language: patterns agr for agr loaded (n=24,e=agr,m=agr) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang- agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 α2Ϊ 1 ? So no Greek hyphenation. I am baffled. And Thomas cannot reproduce the problem at his end. So, if anyone has any suggestions they will be gratefully received. By the way, if it is at all relevant, I am running Mac OS X 10.4.6 on a Power Mac G4 450 MHz. Alan it looks like tetex does not use the -8bit switch (to pdfetex) or loads the natural tcx file; (you may try texexec --make instead) [patterns are now in utf-8 so this is why it show up now, but in fact your installation has never been 8 bit clean upto now] Hans Thanks, Hans. I tried texexec --make --all but the regeneration fails as before, with the lines (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang- agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 α2Ϊ 1 ? Does the MacTeX distribution have the same problem? is there a natural.tcx file on your system? and is loading it reported? in the worst case you can say: ctxtools --pat and move the generated pattern files to tex/context/patterns Hans Hans— When I tried ctxtools --pat the response was -bash: ctxtools: command not found By the way, will the pattern file generated be different from the ones I already have in /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/? Alan ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] format generation -- again!
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Alan Bowen wrote: On Jun 2, 2006, at 7:27 AM, Alan Bowen wrote: On Jun 1, 2006, at 6:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Bowen wrote: On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Bowen wrote: Using the latest version of Gerbenÿÿs i-Installer (expert mode), I completely erased teTeX, re-installed the 2005 x86pc version, and then re-installed the latest ConTeXt. cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/ grep agr cont-en.log produces encoding: coding agr is loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/enco- agr.tex) language: patterns for agr not loaded language: patterns for agr not loaded and no more, which means that the ancient Greek hyphenation patterns are not available, though they presumably should be since the files lang-agr.hyp and lang-agr.pat are in the right place, /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/. When I try to regenerate the formats using sudo ruby /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/scripts/context/ruby/ texmfstart.rb texexec --make --all I get the error message language: patterns agr for agr loaded (n=24,e=agr,m=agr) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang- agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 ÿÿ2ÿÿ 1 ? So no Greek hyphenation. I am baffled. And Thomas cannot reproduce the problem at his end. So, if anyone has any suggestions they will be gratefully received. By the way, if it is at all relevant, I am running Mac OS X 10.4.6 on a Power Mac G4 450 MHz. Alan it looks like tetex does not use the -8bit switch (to pdfetex) or loads the natural tcx file; (you may try texexec --make instead) [patterns are now in utf-8 so this is why it show up now, but in fact your installation has never been 8 bit clean upto now] Hans Thanks, Hans. I tried texexec --make --all but the regeneration fails as before, with the lines (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang- agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 ÿÿ2ÿÿ 1 ? Does the MacTeX distribution have the same problem? is there a natural.tcx file on your system? and is loading it reported? in the worst case you can say: ctxtools --pat and move the generated pattern files to tex/context/patterns Hans Hansÿÿ When I tried ctxtools --pat the response was -bash: ctxtools: command not found ctxtools is not in the path. Try texmfstart ctxtools --pat Aditya ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] format generation -- again!
On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Alan Bowen wrote: On Jun 2, 2006, at 7:27 AM, Alan Bowen wrote: On Jun 1, 2006, at 6:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Bowen wrote: On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Bowen wrote: Using the latest version of Gerbenÿÿs i-Installer (expert mode), I completely erased teTeX, re-installed the 2005 x86pc version, and then re-installed the latest ConTeXt. cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/ grep agr cont-en.log produces encoding: coding agr is loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/enco- agr.tex) language: patterns for agr not loaded language: patterns for agr not loaded and no more, which means that the ancient Greek hyphenation patterns are not available, though they presumably should be since the files lang-agr.hyp and lang-agr.pat are in the right place, /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/. When I try to regenerate the formats using sudo ruby /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/scripts/context/ ruby/ texmfstart.rb texexec --make --all I get the error message language: patterns agr for agr loaded (n=24,e=agr,m=agr) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang- agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 ÿÿ2ÿÿ 1 ? So no Greek hyphenation. I am baffled. And Thomas cannot reproduce the problem at his end. So, if anyone has any suggestions they will be gratefully received. By the way, if it is at all relevant, I am running Mac OS X 10.4.6 on a Power Mac G4 450 MHz. Alan it looks like tetex does not use the -8bit switch (to pdfetex) or loads the natural tcx file; (you may try texexec --make instead) [patterns are now in utf-8 so this is why it show up now, but in fact your installation has never been 8 bit clean upto now] Hans Thanks, Hans. I tried texexec --make --all but the regeneration fails as before, with the lines (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang- agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 ÿÿ2ÿÿ 1 ? Does the MacTeX distribution have the same problem? is there a natural.tcx file on your system? and is loading it reported? in the worst case you can say: ctxtools --pat and move the generated pattern files to tex/context/patterns Hans Hansÿÿ When I tried ctxtools --pat the response was -bash: ctxtools: command not found ctxtools is not in the path. Try texmfstart ctxtools --pat Aditya Thanks, Aditya. That got it to work. Alan ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] format generation -- again!
Using the latest version of Gerben’s i-Installer (expert mode), I completely erased teTeX, re-installed the 2005 x86pc version, and then re-installed the latest ConTeXt. cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/ grep agr cont-en.log produces encoding: coding agr is loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/enco-agr.tex) language: patterns for agr not loaded language: patterns for agr not loaded and no more, which means that the ancient Greek hyphenation patterns are not available, though they presumably should be since the files lang-agr.hyp and lang-agr.pat are in the right place, /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/. When I try to regenerate the formats using sudo ruby /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/scripts/context/ruby/ texmfstart.rb texexec --make --all I get the error message language: patterns agr for agr loaded (n=24,e=agr,m=agr) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang-agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 α2Ϊ 1 ? So no Greek hyphenation. I am baffled. And Thomas cannot reproduce the problem at his end. So, if anyone has any suggestions they will be gratefully received. By the way, if it is at all relevant, I am running Mac OS X 10.4.6 on a Power Mac G4 450 MHz. Alan On May 31, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Alan, I really have no idea what's wrong there, but it must be a misconfiguration on your system. I just double-checked: wiped the entire TeX installation on my laptop. Reinstalled with Gerben's installer, expert mode, texlive 2005. Everything fine. Run Gerben's Context updater. I get version 2006-05-28, greek hyphenation is included. To be sure, I run texmfstart texexec --make --all afterwards, again, formats are generated without any problem. That's all I can say: it's not a ConTeXt problem and not a problem with Gerben's distribution; for the rest, I really can't be of any help because I can't reproduce the problem. My only guess would be: see if there's a directory web2c in your ~/Library/texmf and if there is, try moving it out of the way, but this is just a far shot. Good luck Thomas On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 06:46 -0400, Alan Bowen wrote: It’s the file I was compiling in making the log from which the excerpt came. Alan On May 30, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 16:45 -0400, Alan Bowen wrote: **cont-en 2005-12-03_Lautner.tex (./2005-12-03_Lautner.tex What is this Lautner.tex thing? T. ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] format generation -- again!
Alan Bowen wrote: Using the latest version of Gerben’s i-Installer (expert mode), I completely erased teTeX, re-installed the 2005 x86pc version, and then re-installed the latest ConTeXt. cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/ grep agr cont-en.log produces encoding: coding agr is loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/enco-agr.tex) language: patterns for agr not loaded language: patterns for agr not loaded and no more, which means that the ancient Greek hyphenation patterns are not available, though they presumably should be since the files lang-agr.hyp and lang-agr.pat are in the right place, /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/. When I try to regenerate the formats using sudo ruby /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/scripts/context/ruby/ texmfstart.rb texexec --make --all I get the error message language: patterns agr for agr loaded (n=24,e=agr,m=agr) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang-agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 α2Ϊ 1 ? So no Greek hyphenation. I am baffled. And Thomas cannot reproduce the problem at his end. So, if anyone has any suggestions they will be gratefully received. By the way, if it is at all relevant, I am running Mac OS X 10.4.6 on a Power Mac G4 450 MHz. Alan On May 31, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Alan, I really have no idea what's wrong there, but it must be a misconfiguration on your system. I just double-checked: wiped the entire TeX installation on my laptop. Reinstalled with Gerben's installer, expert mode, texlive 2005. Everything fine. Run Gerben's Context updater. I get version 2006-05-28, greek hyphenation is included. To be sure, I run texmfstart texexec --make --all afterwards, again, formats are generated without any problem. That's all I can say: it's not a ConTeXt problem and not a problem with Gerben's distribution; for the rest, I really can't be of any help because I can't reproduce the problem. My only guess would be: see if there's a directory web2c in your ~/Library/texmf and if there is, try moving it out of the way, but this is just a far shot. Good luck Thomas On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 06:46 -0400, Alan Bowen wrote: It’s the file I was compiling in making the log from which the excerpt came. Alan On May 30, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 16:45 -0400, Alan Bowen wrote: **cont-en 2005-12-03_Lautner.tex (./2005-12-03_Lautner.tex What is this Lautner.tex thing? T. it looks like tetex does not use the -8bit switch (to pdfetex) or loads the natural tcx file; (you may try texexec --make instead) [patterns are now in utf-8 so this is why it show up now, but in fact your installation has never been 8 bit clean upto now] Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] format generation -- again!
On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Bowen wrote: Using the latest version of Gerben’s i-Installer (expert mode), I completely erased teTeX, re-installed the 2005 x86pc version, and then re-installed the latest ConTeXt. cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/ grep agr cont-en.log produces encoding: coding agr is loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/enco-agr.tex) language: patterns for agr not loaded language: patterns for agr not loaded and no more, which means that the ancient Greek hyphenation patterns are not available, though they presumably should be since the files lang-agr.hyp and lang-agr.pat are in the right place, /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/. When I try to regenerate the formats using sudo ruby /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/scripts/context/ruby/ texmfstart.rb texexec --make --all I get the error message language: patterns agr for agr loaded (n=24,e=agr,m=agr) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang-agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 α2Ϊ 1 ? So no Greek hyphenation. I am baffled. And Thomas cannot reproduce the problem at his end. So, if anyone has any suggestions they will be gratefully received. By the way, if it is at all relevant, I am running Mac OS X 10.4.6 on a Power Mac G4 450 MHz. Alan it looks like tetex does not use the -8bit switch (to pdfetex) or loads the natural tcx file; (you may try texexec --make instead) [patterns are now in utf-8 so this is why it show up now, but in fact your installation has never been 8 bit clean upto now] Hans Thanks, Hans. I tried texexec --make --all but the regeneration fails as before, with the lines (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang-agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 α2Ϊ 1 ? Does the MacTeX distribution have the same problem? Alan ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] format generation -- again!
Alan Bowen wrote: On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Bowen wrote: Using the latest version of Gerben’s i-Installer (expert mode), I completely erased teTeX, re-installed the 2005 x86pc version, and then re-installed the latest ConTeXt. cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/ grep agr cont-en.log produces encoding: coding agr is loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/enco-agr.tex) language: patterns for agr not loaded language: patterns for agr not loaded and no more, which means that the ancient Greek hyphenation patterns are not available, though they presumably should be since the files lang-agr.hyp and lang-agr.pat are in the right place, /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/. When I try to regenerate the formats using sudo ruby /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/scripts/context/ruby/ texmfstart.rb texexec --make --all I get the error message language: patterns agr for agr loaded (n=24,e=agr,m=agr) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang-agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 α2Ϊ 1 ? So no Greek hyphenation. I am baffled. And Thomas cannot reproduce the problem at his end. So, if anyone has any suggestions they will be gratefully received. By the way, if it is at all relevant, I am running Mac OS X 10.4.6 on a Power Mac G4 450 MHz. Alan it looks like tetex does not use the -8bit switch (to pdfetex) or loads the natural tcx file; (you may try texexec --make instead) [patterns are now in utf-8 so this is why it show up now, but in fact your installation has never been 8 bit clean upto now] Hans Thanks, Hans. I tried texexec --make --all but the regeneration fails as before, with the lines (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang-agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 α2Ϊ 1 ? Does the MacTeX distribution have the same problem? is there a natural.tcx file on your system? and is loading it reported? in the worst case you can say: ctxtools --pat and move the generated pattern files to tex/context/patterns Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] format generation -- again!
All, I just hit a snag in generating formats with --make --all. It works flawlessly on my computers running Mac OS X or linux, but ALan Bowen has a problem where .pat files with Unicode characters aren't recognized: (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang-us.hyp) language: patterns agr for agr loaded (n=24,e=agr,m=agr) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns/lang-agr.pat ! Nonletter. \rawcharacter ...r\or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \or \... l.37 α2Ϊ 1 ? I compared the cont-en.log of our computers; the only real difference is the beginning: My log: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.0-beta-20060213 (Web2C 7.5.5) (INITEX) 26 MAY 2006 19:42 entering extended mode \write18 enabled. (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/natural.tcx) ***cont-en (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/context.tex (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/syst-pln.tex Alan's log: This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5) (INITEX) 24 MAY 2006 06:40 entering extended mode ***cont-en.ini (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/config/cont-en.ini (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/context.tex (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/syst-pln.tex Both have the latest release. So the only difference that really could matter: 1. older version of pdf(e)tex; 2. natural.tcx is not called. Can anybody help? I'm unable to reproduce the problem here; I can generate formats both with texmfstart texexec --make --all and with fmtutil-sys --byfmt cont-en. Best Thomas ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] format generation -- again!
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Alan's log: This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5) (INITEX) 24 MAY 2006 06:40 entering extended mode ***cont-en.ini (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/config/cont-en.ini (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/context.tex (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/syst-pln.tex Both have the latest release. So the only difference that really could matter: 1. older version of pdf(e)tex; no problem here 2. natural.tcx is not called. probably the problem Can anybody help? I'm unable to reproduce the problem here; I can generate formats both with texmfstart texexec --make --all and with fmtutil-sys --byfmt cont-en. i dunno how fmtutil works, but maybe you can pass the -8bit switch to pdftex somehow (or translate-file=natural.tcx) an alternative is to regenerate the patterns ctxtools --pat will generate them, given that in the meantime the original names/content of pattern sources hasn't changed) i know from discussion on the tex live list that tetex was ot that fond of being 8 bit clean (all this locale stuff and wanting to have ^^X kind dof output on the terminal) but because context (sometimes) need a round trip 8 bit, i assume an 8 bit clean tex (btw, fmtutil does not support the engine subpath either - which was reported to be too complex to implement) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context