Re: [NTG-context] tree charts
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 13:18, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: Dear cabal, Do any of you have any examples of tree charts done in, say, MetaFun? Are there any macros, libraries etc. for easy tree charts in \ConTeXt? Example: http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~anne/Aufl-Bilder/D7Tree.jpg There are three ways you can do it in ConTeXt 1) Most features: pstricks (yes pstricks can be used with context, but you always have to go the ps-pdf route) My understanding is that the m-pstric module allows direct use of pstricks in Context, and handles the mechanics of conversion from dvips to ps to pdf by an extra pass. (However I am often wrong.) -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] tree charts
On Feb 22, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: Hi, On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:30:26 -0700, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, Willy Egger has a hard cover version of that manual which me might like to take to the context meeting. I'd like to see a better integration of this package with ConTeXt. For example, hooking it into the ConTeXt color mechanism (unless you guys have some tricks up your sleave you'ld like to share ;-) I could not get global text color within a TikZ environment without individually coloring every node... I'd second this. For some reason PGF/TikZ is rather appealing to me right now. Although clearly MetaPost/Fun can do it all, it is (or at least seems) more daunting. Perhaps the beautiful examples for TikZ are closer to what I need out of the box (graphs of various kinds) than the beautiful examples from MetaFun. David Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] tree charts
Aditya Mahajan wrote: I also found the following to be funny: quote 2.2.3 Setting up the Environment in ConTEXt Karl’s uncle Hans uses ConTEXt. Like Gerda, Hans can also use TikZ. /quote i saw that one -) Btw, Willy Egger has a hard cover version of that manual which me might like to take to the context meeting. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] tree charts
Hi, On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:30:26 -0700, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, Willy Egger has a hard cover version of that manual which me might like to take to the context meeting. I'd like to see a better integration of this package with ConTeXt. For example, hooking it into the ConTeXt color mechanism (unless you guys have some tricks up your sleave you'ld like to share ;-) I could not get global text color within a TikZ environment without individually coloring every node... Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] tree charts
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: Hi, On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:30:26 -0700, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, Willy Egger has a hard cover version of that manual which me might like to take to the context meeting. I'd like to see a better integration of this package with ConTeXt. For example, hooking it into the ConTeXt color mechanism (unless you guys have some tricks up your sleave you'ld like to share ;-) I could not get global text color within a TikZ environment without individually coloring every node... If a color is defined using ConTeXt's definecolor it can be used with tikz. Here is an example (adapted from the tikz manual) \usemodule[tikz] \definecolor[mycolor] [g=.75,r=.15,b=.5] \starttext \start[tikzpicture] [parent anchor=east,child anchor=west,grow=east] \tikzstyle{every node}=[ball color=mycolor,circle,text=white] \tikzstyle{edge from parent}=[draw,dashed,thick,red] \node {root} child {node {left}} child {node {right} child {node {child}} child {node {child}} }; \stop[tikzpicture] \stoptext ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] tree charts
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:39:25 -0700, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could not get global text color within a TikZ environment without individually coloring every node... If a color is defined using ConTeXt's definecolor it can be used with tikz. Here is an example (adapted from the tikz manual) Ok, I got confused by something the manual said about color (p. 108); I thought that non-LaTeX users had to use \definecolor{} which crashes on context... Aditya, my hero, THNX as always Idris \usemodule[tikz] \definecolor[mycolor] [g=.75,r=.15,b=.5] \starttext \start[tikzpicture] [parent anchor=east,child anchor=west,grow=east] \tikzstyle{every node}=[ball color=mycolor,circle,text=white] \tikzstyle{edge from parent}=[draw,dashed,thick,red] \node {root} child {node {left}} child {node {right} child {node {child}} child {node {child}} }; \stop[tikzpicture] \stoptext -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] tree charts
Dear cabal, Do any of you have any examples of tree charts done in, say, MetaFun? Are there any macros, libraries etc. for easy tree charts in \ConTeXt? Example: http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~anne/Aufl-Bilder/D7Tree.jpg Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] tree charts
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: Dear cabal, Do any of you have any examples of tree charts done in, say, MetaFun? Are there any macros, libraries etc. for easy tree charts in \ConTeXt? Example: http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~anne/Aufl-Bilder/D7Tree.jpg There are three ways you can do it in ConTeXt 1) Most features: pstricks (yes pstricks can be used with context, but you always have to go the ps-pdf route) 2) Easiest syntax and prettiest looking output: tikz. You need one of the recent versions of tikz that work fine with context (except some of the exotic features, like adding arbitrary nodes to the page) 3) A very flexible system, but it takes a while to get used to the syntax: Metaobj. You also need a workabound to get metaobj to run correctly with metafun (search the mailing list for Taco's reply on a mail with metaobj in the subject) For things like this, my personal recommendation will be tikz. It is not as powerful as metapost, since all the calculations are done in tex, but the user interface is slightly easier to use than metapost, and it has a good looking library of functions. If you need something, quick and dirty, plain metapost with boxes package will also work. There is also the flowchart module, but I do not think that it can draw diagonal lines. Aditya ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] tree charts
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:18:10 -0700, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: Dear cabal, Do any of you have any examples of tree charts done in, say, MetaFun? Are there any macros, libraries etc. for easy tree charts in \ConTeXt? Example: http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~anne/Aufl-Bilder/D7Tree.jpg There are three ways you can do it in ConTeXt 1) Most features: pstricks (yes pstricks can be used with context, but you always have to go the ps-pdf route) I used pstricks for this purpose for my dissertation years ago (LaTeX, dvips). It's been years since I used pstricks, does not seem too popular with ConTeXt, dvips does not work well with ConTeXt virtual fonts, etc 2) Easiest syntax and prettiest looking output: tikz. You need one of the recent versions of tikz that work fine with context (except some of the exotic features, like adding arbitrary nodes to the page) Never heard of it; will look it up 3) A very flexible system, but it takes a while to get used to the syntax: Metaobj. You also need a workabound to get metaobj to run correctly with metafun (search the mailing list for Taco's reply on a mail with metaobj in the subject) Will look this up as well, though I don't look forward to yet another syntax (still need to get used to metapost ;-) For things like this, my personal recommendation will be tikz. It is not as powerful as metapost, since all the calculations are done in tex, but the user interface is slightly easier to use than metapost, and it has a good looking library of functions. If you need something, quick and dirty, plain metapost with boxes package will also work. There is also the flowchart module, but I do not think that it can draw diagonal lines. Yes, otherwise that module would be the ticket. Maybe someone will extend it someday; I think a tree-chart module is at least just as important as one for flow charts. THANK YOU for the info! Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] tree charts
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:05:08 -0700, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) Easiest syntax and prettiest looking output: tikz. You need one of the recent versions of tikz that work fine with context (except some of the exotic features, like adding arbitrary nodes to the page) Never heard of it; will look it up This looks like a really nice package. The following, howeve, cracked me up (manual, page 67): This special module is necessary since ConTeXt satanically restricts the length of module names... LOL ' Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] tree charts
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:05:08 -0700, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) Easiest syntax and prettiest looking output: tikz. You need one of the recent versions of tikz that work fine with context (except some of the exotic features, like adding arbitrary nodes to the page) Never heard of it; will look it up This looks like a really nice package. The following, howeve, cracked me up (manual, page 67): This special module is necessary since ConTeXt satanically restricts the length of module names... hm, that restriction has been dropped quite some time ago but there is the restriction that a third party module must start with t- also, names can (and could) be remapped from long to short etc Hans -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context