Re: [NTG-context] oldstyle figures
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 at 16:30:04-0600, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
So, how to tell \digits to use oldstyle
figures, and/or how to make them the math mode default?
Since it switches to math mode, one has to reencode the math fonts, i guess.
In the meantime:
\def\OSdigits#1{\digits{\os#1}}
\OSdigits{1234}
Unfortunately not. It works in text mode, but produces a bunch of errors
in math mode. \digits doesn't seem to like \os in its argument. This
definition works here for now:
\def\OSdigits#1{\ifmmode{\os\digits{#1}}\else\digits{\os#1}\fi}
should do everything you need: since u're not mixing text in \digits do you
really need a global math font reencoding?
In principle yes. For example, $f(x)=3x+7$ should come out with oldstyle
figures, if these are used by default, shouldn't it?
Btw, striving for good typography, in which cases should oldstyle
figures *not* be used?
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RE: [NTG-context] oldstyle figures
= Original Message From Eckhart Guthöhrlein [EMAIL PROTECTED] should do everything you need: since u're not mixing text in \digits do you really need a global math font reencoding? In principle yes. For example, $f(x)=3x+7$ should come out with oldstyle figures, if these are used by default, shouldn't it? No, I don't think so (see below) Btw, striving for good typography, in which cases should oldstyle figures *not* be used? I am no typography expert, but I think that old style figures are, generally speaking, inappropriate for math mode. The various heights, etc. make more work for the brain in complicated mathematics expressions. I can't recall ever seeing good mathematics/physics done in old style figures. OS numerals are actually _text_ figures, as Bringhurst points out. In my own academic journal there is little to no math, but when someone mentions, e.g., the version of a computer program, I put the version number in upright figures, thought the rest of the journal is in os figures. That's my two cents, for what it's worth:-) Best Idris Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] oldstyle figures
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 at 10:49:00-0600, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:23:47 +0200, Eckhart Guthöhrlein
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
is there a way to set up oldstyle figures as the default? I have found
some stuff searching the archive, but it doesn't really help me to get
along.
=
\starttext
\usetypescript [modern][\defaultencoding]
\usetypescript [map] [latin-modern-os] [\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[modern] test 1234 test
\stoptext
=
And I'm working on a ConTeXt magazine where I show how to do this.
Thanks Idris, it works (if you put the \usetypscript commands before
\starttext). Here comes the followup question: How to make it work with
the \digits command?
\digits{1234567890} gives ordinary figures. I guess this is because of
an implicit switch to math mode. So, how to tell \digits to use oldstyle
figures, and/or how to make them the math mode default?
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Re: [NTG-context] oldstyle figures
Hi Idris, this didn't work for me: \usetypescript [URWGaramond][\defaultencoding] \usetypescript [map] [latin-modern-os] [\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont [urwgaramond,11pt] \starttext 123456 \stoptext Any help? thank you ciro ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
urw garamond [was RE: [NTG-context] oldstyle figures
Hi Ciro = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED], mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl = Hi Idris, this didn't work for me: \usetypescript [URWGaramond][\defaultencoding] \usetypescript [map] [latin-modern-os] [\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont [urwgaramond,11pt] \starttext 123456 \stoptext I guess I'm not clear: Does URW Garamond have old style figures? If not, then do you really want use Latin Modern oldstyle figures? Also, why no \usetypescriptfile line? Best Idris Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: urw garamond [was RE: [NTG-context] oldstyle figures
Idris Samawi Hamid said this at Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:16:07 -0600: Does URW Garamond have old style figures? No, it doesn't. The new Garamond MathItalic doesn't even have them. ...but there is Garamond math now. Does anyone strongly want ConTeXt support? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] oldstyle figures
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:23:47 +0200, Eckhart Guthöhrlein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, is there a way to set up oldstyle figures as the default? I have found some stuff searching the archive, but it doesn't really help me to get along. = \starttext \usetypescript [modern][\defaultencoding] \usetypescript [map] [latin-modern-os] [\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont[modern] test 1234 test \stoptext = And I'm working on a ConTeXt magazine where I show how to do this. Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
