Re: [NTG-context] Struggling with Old Style numerals!

2006-04-01 Thread G.C.H.M. Verhaag
  Hans Hagen wrote:

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Dear Mojca,

Downloading the most recent ConTeXt is not really an option when one 
uses a slow analog telephone line (small bandwidth) when accessing the 
Internet. So I prefer to use the TeXLive CD's, but that's a bit old, yes.
  


the context zip is not that large (3 meg)

unfortunately the latest tex live has problems with context and lm
  

 
  


Hans


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Hans,

What kind of problems are you referring at when it comes to ConTeXt and 
LM fonts on TeXLive 2005?

Regards,

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Re: [NTG-context] Struggling with Old Style numerals!

2006-03-27 Thread G.C.H.M. Verhaag
  Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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TeXLive 2004? Hans would probably call it ancient. If it is (was) OK


  

I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other
problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened.


...
  

So what should be my next move?



I don't know much about TeX live (the only time I tried to install it
it was broken). Under linux I often use this one (if nothing else, no
special privileges are needed for installing it):
http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/linuxtex.zip

.

An alternative is to follow the installation instructions on the wiki,
but I have absolutely no experience with that on linux.

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Dear Mojca,

Downloading the most recent ConTeXt is not really an option when one 
uses a slow analog telephone line (small bandwidth) when accessing the 
Internet. So I prefer to use the TeXLive CD's, but that's a bit old, yes.

Installing TeXLive on my Linux based PC never really causes any real 
problems. Formerly I used mainly SuSE or RedHat, but I turned to Debian. 
This requires a bit more fine-tuning!

Regards,

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Re: [NTG-context] Struggling with Old Style numerals!

2006-03-27 Thread Hans Hagen
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
   Mojca Miklavec wrote:

   
 ...
  


 TeXLive 2004? Hans would probably call it ancient. If it is (was) OK
 

  

 
 I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other
 problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened.


   
 ...
  

 
 So what should be my next move?


   
 I don't know much about TeX live (the only time I tried to install it
 it was broken). Under linux I often use this one (if nothing else, no
 special privileges are needed for installing it):
 http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/linuxtex.zip

 .

 An alternative is to follow the installation instructions on the wiki,
 but I have absolutely no experience with that on linux.

 Mojca
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 Dear Mojca,

 Downloading the most recent ConTeXt is not really an option when one 
 uses a slow analog telephone line (small bandwidth) when accessing the 
 Internet. So I prefer to use the TeXLive CD's, but that's a bit old, yes.
   
the context zip is not that large (3 meg)

unfortunately the latest tex live has problems with context and lm
 Installing TeXLive on my Linux based PC never really causes any real 
 problems. Formerly I used mainly SuSE or RedHat, but I turned to Debian. 
   
i only test on suse (which we have run here for ages) so i cannot help 
there
 This requires a bit more fine-tuning!
   
Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Struggling with Old Style numerals!

2006-03-17 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 3/15/06, G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
 Adam Lindsay wrote:

 ..
 
 Do you have a recent ConTeXt? Do you have an up-to-date latin modern
 install?
 (Most advice/ConTeXt stuff depends on at least those two things, here.)
 
 adam
 
 
 Hoi Adam,

 What do you call recent? I was using TeXLive 2004, and the ConTeXt
 version available from this CD. Maybe that's already ancient, but good
 enough for me!

TeXLive 2004? Hans would probably call it ancient. If it is (was) OK
for you, it's no problem, but in such cases (when you need an advice)
you'll probably be left on your own if you want to keep using the old
distribution. Latin Modern was last updated in November 2005 (I don't
know if they're included in the last TeX live or not) and the latest
ConTeXt is from February.

 I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other
 problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened.
...
 So what should be my next move?

I don't know much about TeX live (the only time I tried to install it
it was broken). Under linux I often use this one (if nothing else, no
special privileges are needed for installing it):
http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/linuxtex.zip

You just unpack it somewhere and then put something like
/path-to-new-tex/ /path-to-new-tex/setuptex
into the file which is executed each time the shell is started.
See the instructions. If you're in the dir where setuptex resides, you
have to say
. setuptex
then make the formats (only the first time) and start using it.

An alternative is to follow the installation instructions on the wiki,
but I have absolutely no experience with that on linux.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Struggling with Old Style numerals!

2006-03-15 Thread G.C.H.M. Verhaag
Adam Lindsay wrote:

..

Do you have a recent ConTeXt? Do you have an up-to-date latin modern 
install?
(Most advice/ConTeXt stuff depends on at least those two things, here.)

adam
  

Hoi Adam,

What do you call recent? I was using TeXLive 2004, and the ConTeXt 
version available from this CD. Maybe that's already ancient, but good 
enough for me!

I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other 
problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened.

I assume that ConTeXt is setup properly after the TeXLive installation! 
After setting my PATH correctly I issued the command texexec from the 
command line.

The Perl script texexec doesn't launch!! I get the following Perl error 
message:

Can't locate Digest/MD5.pm in @INC (@INC contains: 
/usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5 
/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/share/perl/5.6.1 
/usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at 
/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/scripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 54.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/scripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 54.

This missing MD5.pm is present in the directory: 
/usr/local/texlive/2005/xemtex/perl/lib

So what should be my next move?

Regards,
Gerard

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Re: [NTG-context] Struggling with Old Style numerals!

2006-03-12 Thread G.C.H.M. Verhaag
Adam Lindsay wrote:

G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:

  

I'd like to know whether it is possible to change all the 'normal' 
numerals to old-style ones throughout the entire book. I need serif, 
sansserif and italic old-style numerals!

...



For Latin Modern, look in the mail archive:
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050616.125032.05b714af.en.html


  

Thanks for your suggestion!

But sorry, I don't get any old-style numerals when I run the example as 
shown in this link. Now the problem is that I don't know why it doesn't 
work.

The log file of the texexec run doesn't give any hints either! I feel 
very uncomfortable now, because I'm completely dependent on advice given 
by font guru's!

That's my main problem with TeX, LaTeX and ConTeXt, font handling is 
just terrible, when one doesn't understand the underlying principles! 
I've tried to read the ConTeXt manuals dealing with fonts. Unfortunately 
this didn't help at all, it has added even more to the confusion, sorry!

It seems that this mail is also a desperate call for up-to-date 
documentation regarding this topic!

Regards,
Gerard

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Re: [NTG-context] Struggling with Old Style numerals!

2006-03-12 Thread Adam Lindsay
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
 Adam Lindsay wrote:
 For Latin Modern, look in the mail archive:
 http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050616.125032.05b714af.en.html

 Thanks for your suggestion!
 
 But sorry, I don't get any old-style numerals when I run the example as 
 shown in this link. Now the problem is that I don't know why it doesn't 
 work.

Really? Try this minimal, complete example:

\usetypescript [modern][\defaultencoding]
\usetypescript [map] [latin-modern-os] [\defaultencoding]

\setupbodyfont[modern]
\starttext
hello world 123
\ss 456 world hello
\rmit hello world 789
\stoptext

Do you have a recent ConTeXt? Do you have an up-to-date latin modern 
install?
(Most advice/ConTeXt stuff depends on at least those two things, here.)

adam
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