Re: [NTG-context] how to avoid CID Identity-H encoding?

2012-07-27 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 26.07.2012 um 19:35 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 On 26-7-2012 17:59, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi Hans, hi friends,
 
 while the PDF that are produced by MkIV show no problems, some applications 
 that use these PDF files for post-processing have big problems with 
 CID/Encoding Identity-H.
 
 For example (as far as I have understood) german umlauts eg. ä are not 
 recognized anymore but split in eg. a and diaeresis (with a space 
 between?).
 
 I was told, that other PDF creators have an option to avoid using this kind 
 of encoding.
 
 Is this also possible with MkIV?
 
 afaik context output the right tounicode info so i have no clue what goes 
 wrong there

me neither.

the pdf produced with MkII never ran into this post-processing trouble.
they had this font info, eg.:

Type: Type 1
Encoding: Custom

while all fonts I have tested with MkIV result in this:

Type: Type 1 (CID)
Encoding: Identity-H

and this double-byte encoding confuses the pdf-post-processing machines (I was 
told).
therefore we are asked to change it.

is there a chance to do so?


Thanks, Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] how to avoid CID Identity-H encoding?

2012-07-27 Thread Hans Hagen

On 27-7-2012 11:36, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:


Am 26.07.2012 um 19:35 schrieb Hans Hagen:


On 26-7-2012 17:59, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

Hi Hans, hi friends,

while the PDF that are produced by MkIV show no problems, some applications 
that use these PDF files for post-processing have big problems with 
CID/Encoding Identity-H.

For example (as far as I have understood) german umlauts eg. ä are not recognized 
anymore but split in eg. a and diaeresis (with a space between?).

I was told, that other PDF creators have an option to avoid using this kind of 
encoding.

Is this also possible with MkIV?


afaik context output the right tounicode info so i have no clue what goes wrong 
there


me neither.

the pdf produced with MkII never ran into this post-processing trouble.
they had this font info, eg.:

Type: Type 1
Encoding: Custom


probably not always, i.e. when ttf fonts were used it would use those 
and related embedding methods but hardly anyone uses ttf in pdftex



while all fonts I have tested with MkIV result in this:

Type: Type 1 (CID)
Encoding: Identity-H

and this double-byte encoding confuses the pdf-post-processing machines (I was 
told).
therefore we are asked to change it.


you can try to send them ps (pdftops)


is there a chance to do so?


they should update their machines (read: there is no way that luatex 
will provide split into type1 functionality)


(Luigi and Martin probably can explain it better)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] how to avoid CID Identity-H encoding?

2012-07-27 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 27.07.2012 um 11:50 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 On 27-7-2012 11:36, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 
 Am 26.07.2012 um 19:35 schrieb Hans Hagen:
 
 On 26-7-2012 17:59, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi Hans, hi friends,
 
 while the PDF that are produced by MkIV show no problems, some 
 applications that use these PDF files for post-processing have big 
 problems with CID/Encoding Identity-H.
 
 For example (as far as I have understood) german umlauts eg. ä are not 
 recognized anymore but split in eg. a and diaeresis (with a space 
 between?).
 
 I was told, that other PDF creators have an option to avoid using this 
 kind of encoding.
 
 Is this also possible with MkIV?
 
 afaik context output the right tounicode info so i have no clue what goes 
 wrong there
 
 me neither.
 
 the pdf produced with MkII never ran into this post-processing trouble.
 they had this font info, eg.:
 
 Type: Type 1
 Encoding: Custom
 
 probably not always, i.e. when ttf fonts were used it would use those and 
 related embedding methods but hardly anyone uses ttf in pdftex
 
 while all fonts I have tested with MkIV result in this:
 
 Type: Type 1 (CID)
 Encoding: Identity-H
 
 and this double-byte encoding confuses the pdf-post-processing machines (I 
 was told).
 therefore we are asked to change it.
 
 you can try to send them ps (pdftops)
 
 is there a chance to do so?
 
 they should update their machines (read: there is no way that luatex will 
 provide split into type1 functionality)
 
 (Luigi and Martin probably can explain it better)


yes, please! I am very interested in more information on this, as I expect hard 
talks.

the problem is that more and more our context PDF files are not used as print 
files, nor as classical PDF files.
there main use tends to be as feed material for Flash and other applications 
that reprocess our PDF file for on-line environments, subscribers.

Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] how to avoid CID Identity-H encoding?

2012-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen

On 26-7-2012 17:59, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

Hi Hans, hi friends,

while the PDF that are produced by MkIV show no problems, some applications 
that use these PDF files for post-processing have big problems with 
CID/Encoding Identity-H.

For example (as far as I have understood) german umlauts eg. ä are not recognized 
anymore but split in eg. a and diaeresis (with a space between?).

I was told, that other PDF creators have an option to avoid using this kind of 
encoding.

Is this also possible with MkIV?


afaik context output the right tounicode info so i have no clue what 
goes wrong there


Hans

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