Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
Hi Mojca, On Friday, July 18, 2008 3:40 PM Mojca Miklavec wrote: [...] Apart from that - is luatex ( cache paths) working now? sorry for the delay but my new pc is at another location (with no mailing list access by now) ... The error messages about writing faults to cache dirs disappeared, and everything seems to work perfectly well here ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
Hans Hagen schrieb:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hello,
I would like to ask some Windows user to test if windows minimals still work
OK.
just tried the current version (only left out texmf-context).
- kpathsea357.dll is missing ('texexec --make --pdftex' complains about
it; luatex also doesn't work without; is 35771 already used by any program?)
- still get problems if i call luatools|mtxrun. creating a format is not
possible. some examples:
R:\texluatools --generate
LuaTools | variable SELFAUTOLOC set to R:/tex/texmf-mswin/bin
LuaTools | variable SELFAUTODIR set to R:/tex/texmf-mswin
LuaTools | variable SELFAUTOPARENT set to R:/tex
LuaTools | variable TEXMFCNF set to R:\tex\texmf{-local,-context,}/web2c
LuaTools | loading R:/tex/texmf-context/web2c/texmf.cnf
LuaTools | loading R:/tex/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
Should I create the cache path R:/tex/texmf-cache? [yes|no] [no]
Should I create the cache path R:/tex/texmf-cache? [yes|no] [no]
Should I create the cache path C:/tmp? [yes|no] [no]
Should I create the cache path C:/tmp? [yes|no] [no]
Should I create the cache path /Dokumente und Einstellungen/sojus?
[yes|no] [no]
fatal error: there is no valid (writable) cache path defined
---
R:\texluatools --variables
Should I create the cache path R:/tex/texmf-cache? [yes|no] [no]
...
---
R:\texmtxrun --version
Should I create the cache path R:/tex/texmf-cache? [yes|no] [no]
...
---
believe me, cache path exists ;)
And another issue - TeX Live has switched to universal binaries for
Mac. Oliver has asked me to do that some time ago, but I didn't want
to mess up with having to (cross-)compile the basic binaries as well.
What do others think?
(I kind of prefer separate binaries since they are twice smaller and
don't really bring many advantages except that one would only need a
single package once Oliver's instller comes to existance.)
The transition would need some modifications, I'm first asking for opinion.
the dll is now ok, but we have the cache_is_readable problem for which
we need the fix
yes (see above) :)
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Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hans Hagen schrieb:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hello,
I would like to ask some Windows user to test if windows minimals still
work OK.
just tried the current version (only left out texmf-context).
- kpathsea357.dll is missing ('texexec --make --pdftex' complains about
it; luatex also doesn't work without;
But both
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/bin/common/mswin/bin/
and
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/mswin/bin/
have that file. Where else did I forgot it (no doubts I did)?
is 35771 already used by any program?)
XeTeX. And I just figured out that I forgot to remove the old one
( kpathsea35671).
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
Peter Rolf wrote: believe me, cache path exists ;) this is a bug in the windows lfs code, akira posted a fix so i expect a new bin any time now - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hans Hagen schrieb:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hello,
I would like to ask some Windows user to test if windows minimals still
work OK.
just tried the current version (only left out texmf-context).
- kpathsea357.dll is missing ('texexec --make --pdftex' complains about
it; luatex also doesn't work without;
But both
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/bin/common/mswin/bin/
and
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/mswin/bin/
have that file. Where else did I forgot it (no doubts I did)?
is 35771 already used by any program?)
XeTeX. And I just figured out that I forgot to remove the old one
( kpathsea35671).
maybe binaries should have an accompanying 'liblist.txt' file so that
it's easier to check
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Peter Rolf wrote: believe me, cache path exists ;) this is a bug in the windows lfs code, akira posted a fix so i expect a new bin any time now But I fetch luatex stable. If we need to switch to development version, let me know. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
Mojca Miklavec schrieb:
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hans Hagen schrieb:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hello,
I would like to ask some Windows user to test if windows minimals still
work OK.
just tried the current version (only left out texmf-context).
- kpathsea357.dll is missing ('texexec --make --pdftex' complains about
it; luatex also doesn't work without;
But both
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/bin/common/mswin/bin/
and
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/mswin/bin/
have that file. Where else did I forgot it (no doubts I did)?
got it. stupid me used the version from 15.07.2008, where the dll is
missing. punishment for me: extra big cup of java (no sugar with some
milk) ;)
is 35771 already used by any program?)
XeTeX. And I just figured out that I forgot to remove the old one
( kpathsea35671).
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
Mojca Miklavec schrieb:
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hans Hagen schrieb:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hello,
I would like to ask some Windows user to test if windows minimals still
work OK.
just tried the current version (only left out texmf-context).
- kpathsea357.dll is missing ('texexec --make --pdftex' complains about
it; luatex also doesn't work without;
But both
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/bin/common/mswin/bin/
and
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/mswin/bin/
have that file. Where else did I forgot it (no doubts I did)?
mh, looks like i need a cup of java :D
sorry, my fault (donno how i managed that).
is 35771 already used by any program?)
XeTeX. And I just figured out that I forgot to remove the old one
( kpathsea35671).
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: is 35771 already used by any program?) XeTeX. And I just figured out that I forgot to remove the old one ( kpathsea35671). maybe binaries should have an accompanying 'liblist.txt' file so that it's easier to check It's just that I never delete the old content when extracting zips from Akira (when I should). Or that he renames the zips. But it's my fault in either case. His zips are just fine. I asked on CTAN for mirroring them, and even CTAN-ers complain :) it's like 1990s x-atlantic transfers used to be from here ;-) i'm pulling something at the moment, and getting 7 or 8 kbyte/sec -- that's 1% of the speed my cable line is capable of. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Peter Rolf wrote: believe me, cache path exists ;) this is a bug in the windows lfs code, akira posted a fix so i expect a new bin any time now But I fetch luatex stable. If we need to switch to development version, let me know. You can expect a new release sometime after lunch. best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Peter Rolf wrote: believe me, cache path exists ;) this is a bug in the windows lfs code, akira posted a fix so i expect a new bin any time now But I fetch luatex stable. If we need to switch to development version, let me know. that may be better for now - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
Hi, On Friday, July 18, 2008 10:38 AM Hans Hagen wrote: this is a bug in the windows lfs code, akira posted a fix so i expect a new bin any time now I've just installed ConTexT minimals on a new pc with vista 64 and got the 'cache file not writable' messages. Will Mojca give us a hint when we can reload/reinstall minimals from contextgarden? Or will it be enough to run the 'first-setup' batch file again? Best, Ulrich ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Ulrich Dirr wrote: Hi, On Friday, July 18, 2008 10:38 AM Hans Hagen wrote: this is a bug in the windows lfs code, akira posted a fix so i expect a new bin any time now I've just installed ConTexT minimals on a new pc with vista 64 and got the 'cache file not writable' messages. Will Mojca give us a hint when we can reload/reinstall minimals from contextgarden? Or will it be enough to run the 'first-setup' batch file again? You don't need to reinstall anything. Running first-setup should be enough, but I will go to mountains till Sunday, and it takes about two or three days before changes in LuaTeX trunk propagate to W32TeX binaries anyway (updating W32TeX binaries is only semi-automatic since files often change names). (To be honest, I just run a script to update binaries from Akira from time to time, but I cannot test if it breaks anything, and I don't really keep track of what version is used - I just take whatever is there.) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Ulrich Dirr wrote: Will Mojca give us a hint when we can reload/reinstall minimals from contextgarden? Or will it be enough to run the 'first-setup' batch file again? You don't need to reinstall anything. Running first-setup should be enough, but I will go to mountains till Sunday, and it takes about two or three days before changes in LuaTeX trunk propagate to W32TeX binaries anyway (updating W32TeX binaries is only semi-automatic since files often change names). Hmmm, wait. I just got an email from Akira. Can you please give it one more try and report if it works ok? Thanks, Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: Ulrich Dirr schrieb: Hi, On Friday, July 18, 2008 10:38 AM Hans Hagen wrote: this is a bug in the windows lfs code, akira posted a fix so i expect a new bin any time now I've just installed ConTexT minimals on a new pc with vista 64 and got the 'cache file not writable' messages. Will Mojca give us a hint when we can reload/reinstall minimals from contextgarden? Or will it be enough to run the 'first-setup' batch file again? the minimals use the latest non beta release of context from 21.05.2008. The minimals use whatever version you ask them to fetch for you. In first-setup.sh I have --context=beta and I sometimes add --context=experimental The problem is that I have put beta versions of those files into context bin, and if one uses some other version, it fails to work. i think all you need is to copy the files luatools.lua and mtxrun.lua from that version (in the texmf-context/scripts/context/lua directory) to the texmf-mswin/bin directory. just overwrite the newer version and all should work. @Mojca: maybe it's a good idea to remove both files from 'mswin.zip'. or make sure somehow that they are in sync with the versions in 'justtex.zip'. just my 2eurocents. Oh, right, the pragma dir, sorry. After Hans comes from Cork, I'll ask him to fix a few things, and those two files will then be fetched separately. I also have problems with those two files. But my question - should pragma-like zips contain context beta or current? Apart from that - is luatex ( cache paths) working now? Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
Mojca Miklavec schrieb:
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Peter Rolf wrote:
i tested the latest luatex ('updated on 2007-07-17') some hours ago and
it still has this problem.
Not some hours ago. One hour ago.
i can rerun the test if you want ;)
new binaries will be available at Akira's site at 20:00 (UTC+1)
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
Peter Rolf wrote:
Mojca Miklavec schrieb:
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Peter Rolf wrote:
i tested the latest luatex ('updated on 2007-07-17') some hours ago and
it still has this problem.
Not some hours ago. One hour ago.
i can rerun the test if you want ;)
new binaries will be available at Akira's site at 20:00 (UTC+1)
works ok now, i tested both xp and vista (clean machine)
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Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
Mojca Miklavec wrote: Hello, I would like to ask some Windows user to test if windows minimals still work OK. And another issue - TeX Live has switched to universal binaries for Mac. Oliver has asked me to do that some time ago, but I didn't want to mess up with having to (cross-)compile the basic binaries as well. What do others think? (I kind of prefer separate binaries since they are twice smaller and don't really bring many advantages except that one would only need a single package once Oliver's instller comes to existance.) The transition would need some modifications, I'm first asking for opinion. the dll is now ok, but we have the cache_is_readable problem for which we need the fix - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] minimals TeX Live 2008
And another issue - TeX Live has switched to universal binaries for Mac. Oliver has asked me to do that some time ago, but I didn't want to mess up with having to (cross-)compile the basic binaries as well. What do others think? I would really favour universal binaries if we're able to build them on a regular basis. It's simply more in line with today's Mac OS spirit, and it would make little sense to ship a Mac installer with Intel-only binaries. The only reason why I didn't already provide universal binaries was because the build process was really ill-adapted (mostly libtool problems, as I've experienced); but if Richard and Jonathan managed to build them, we should be able to do it as well. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
