RE: Removing SBS2003.
Actually, you can just transfer the roles. SBS 2003 will complain, but you get a couple of hours before it starts its shutdown sequence. Just run dcpromo on the SBS 2003 box, and that will remove AD from the SBS2003 box and references to that server in AD (no need for metadata cleanup). Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. It goes something like that... except that the SBS2003 server won't let any other machine hold the FSMO roles. You need to violently rip SBS2003 out and tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles. The procedure would go something like this: 1) Bring up 2003 machine 2) Add 2003 machine to SBS2003 domain as an additional domain controller 3) Let the DCs sync 4) Pull the plug on the SBS2003 server 5) Tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles Joe Fox wrote: I guess the subject says it all. I have a SBS2003 server on my network, and want to replace it with a 2003 Server. Is it as simple as bringing the new 2003 box online, promoting it to domain controller, and then transferring the FSMO roles to it from SBS? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Removing SBS2003.
Microsoft do an SBS 2003 to windows Transition pack. You run it on your SBS 2003 server and it converts it to a full blown Windows 2003 DC running full Exchange 2003 standard. It also converts your SBS cals to Windows 2003 and Exchange 2003 cals. It is the recommended way to carry out this change. It works successfully we have done upwards of 10 transitions, but there were 2 which were problematic but a free call to PSS resovled the issues. This leaves you with a full 2003 functional domain without any of the SBS restrictions. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you can just transfer the roles. SBS 2003 will complain, but you get a couple of hours before it starts its shutdown sequence. Just run dcpromo on the SBS 2003 box, and that will remove AD from the SBS2003 box and references to that server in AD (no need for metadata cleanup). Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. It goes something like that... except that the SBS2003 server won't let any other machine hold the FSMO roles. You need to violently rip SBS2003 out and tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles. The procedure would go something like this: 1) Bring up 2003 machine 2) Add 2003 machine to SBS2003 domain as an additional domain controller 3) Let the DCs sync 4) Pull the plug on the SBS2003 server 5) Tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles Joe Fox wrote: I guess the subject says it all. I have a SBS2003 server on my network, and want to replace it with a 2003 Server. Is it as simple as bringing the new 2003 box online, promoting it to domain controller, and then transferring the FSMO roles to it from SBS? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Acct Losing Rights
It away = Shook -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Acct Losing Rights Just for the record, it was that sec group. I ended up blowing it away, recreating as a DL and it works fine now. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Acct Losing Rights He is a member of a DL that was setup by someone as a security group. That group had no BES Admin perms in it. I turned the security group into a distribution group (cause that's all it is), gave BES Admin the rights to that DL for the heck of it, then saved that. Went back to his acct, threw the switch to 0 and reinherited the perms. Lets see what happens now. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Acct Losing Rights adminCount is one again? I think that, even thought you've already checked, you need to go back and look at his group memberships again - and the nested group situation. Is inheritance on the user object enabled? After those two - it's deep voodoo. But I have links and references. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 1:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Acct Losing Rights It flipped back. What now? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Acct Losing Rights He's got the adminCount attribute set on his account. He may not be a member of a restricted group NOW, but at some point he was. Reset it to zero with ADSI Edit. If it flips back after you do THAT - then he somehow IS a member of a restricted group. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Acct Losing Rights What flavor of Exchange and Windows? Is this guy a member of another group/OU that the others are not? Shook -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Acct Losing Rights We are deploying BES here right now and I have run into a snag with one user. BES Admin acct has send as perms on all AD accts. I followed the 912918 KB and used the How to grant the Send As permission for multiple accounts. This has worked for everyone but on guy. It doesn't show up in his. I've also noticed that the Allow inheritable permissions was unchecked and rechecked it. The BES Admin acct comes back and it works. Then it disappears. The allow box is unchecked. He is not an admin. Just a domain user. So I open his acct, click the security tab and add the BES Admin acct and give it send as perms. That occurs and then he can send. But a few hours later, that perm disappears. Put it back, works, then disappears. I'm kind of at a loss here as to what is going on. Why does this one acct keep tossing the new perms? ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: BES Server 4.5
So does anyone know the expected release of 4.5 for the BB's? __ Stefan Jafs From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May-08-08 12:05 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES Server 4.5 BES 4.1 SP5 is the latest. There is no BES 4.5. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: BES Server 4.5 I thought that the BES Server 4.5 was released but can't find in Rim's website! Is it not available yet? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Removing SBS2003.
This would be recommended if you want to keep the existing SBS server in the environment. If you want to transition to alternate machines (e.g. separate Exchange servers, DCs, WSS boxes, because the existing hardware is due to be retired), then this isn't really necessary. Cheers Ken From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. Microsoft do an SBS 2003 to windows Transition pack. You run it on your SBS 2003 server and it converts it to a full blown Windows 2003 DC running full Exchange 2003 standard. It also converts your SBS cals to Windows 2003 and Exchange 2003 cals. It is the recommended way to carry out this change. It works successfully we have done upwards of 10 transitions, but there were 2 which were problematic but a free call to PSS resovled the issues. This leaves you with a full 2003 functional domain without any of the SBS restrictions. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you can just transfer the roles. SBS 2003 will complain, but you get a couple of hours before it starts its shutdown sequence. Just run dcpromo on the SBS 2003 box, and that will remove AD from the SBS2003 box and references to that server in AD (no need for metadata cleanup). Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. It goes something like that... except that the SBS2003 server won't let any other machine hold the FSMO roles. You need to violently rip SBS2003 out and tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles. The procedure would go something like this: 1) Bring up 2003 machine 2) Add 2003 machine to SBS2003 domain as an additional domain controller 3) Let the DCs sync 4) Pull the plug on the SBS2003 server 5) Tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles Joe Fox wrote: I guess the subject says it all. I have a SBS2003 server on my network, and want to replace it with a 2003 Server. Is it as simple as bringing the new 2003 box online, promoting it to domain controller, and then transferring the FSMO roles to it from SBS? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Removing SBS2003.
Ken, thats interesting as we were told by Microsoft that we would need to transition the SBS server first, as this would fix the domain to full 2003 AD type not SBS restricted, and then move to new hardware as if not transitioned then the domain still thinks it is SBS and you can get unusual results. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would be recommended if you want to keep the existing SBS server in the environment. If you want to transition to alternate machines (e.g. separate Exchange servers, DCs, WSS boxes, because the existing hardware is due to be retired), then this isn't really necessary. Cheers Ken *From:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, 9 May 2008 5:53 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Removing SBS2003. Microsoft do an SBS 2003 to windows Transition pack. You run it on your SBS 2003 server and it converts it to a full blown Windows 2003 DC running full Exchange 2003 standard. It also converts your SBS cals to Windows 2003 and Exchange 2003 cals. It is the recommended way to carry out this change. It works successfully we have done upwards of 10 transitions, but there were 2 which were problematic but a free call to PSS resovled the issues. This leaves you with a full 2003 functional domain without any of the SBS restrictions. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you can just transfer the roles. SBS 2003 will complain, but you get a couple of hours before it starts its shutdown sequence. Just run dcpromo on the SBS 2003 box, and that will remove AD from the SBS2003 box and references to that server in AD (no need for metadata cleanup). Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. It goes something like that... except that the SBS2003 server won't let any other machine hold the FSMO roles. You need to violently rip SBS2003 out and tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles. The procedure would go something like this: 1) Bring up 2003 machine 2) Add 2003 machine to SBS2003 domain as an additional domain controller 3) Let the DCs sync 4) Pull the plug on the SBS2003 server 5) Tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles Joe Fox wrote: I guess the subject says it all. I have a SBS2003 server on my network, and want to replace it with a 2003 Server. Is it as simple as bringing the new 2003 box online, promoting it to domain controller, and then transferring the FSMO roles to it from SBS? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Need Perfmon help.
There has been known issues (Security wise) with the Indexing service, and we disable it on our servers via Security template, which cuts down on the overhead to the OS Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need Perfmon help. Machael, Thank you very much for your time today. Do you have any tips on how I can figure out what it's actually indexing? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need Perfmon help. Then you definitely need to investigate what CISVC is indexing and see if it's too much. It almost certainly is. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need Perfmon help. Sorry about the confusion on Store. Stopping the Index service does seem to cause the numbers to jump in the right direction, but I didn't really stop it for more than a 20 seconds or so. Just enough to make sure the jump was related. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 1:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need Perfmon help. CISVC is the Content Indexing Service. If you have a lot of churn in your filesystem, that can eat up lots of I/O while CISVC tries to catch up. You should look at what CI is indexing and see if it's too much. Apache will, by default, write voluminous logfiles (as IIS can too, but IIS uses a buffered algorithm while Apache, not optimized for Windows, does not). You may want to see if you can direct those to another volume (like an external USB drive). Store is spending more of its time in write than read? That's interesting. That generally indicates you have a very high incoming e-mail velocity. If you stop the Content Indexing Service temporarily, do things immediately get better? Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need Perfmon help. CISVC then System. Apache seems to like writing a lot, and Store. Blackberry spends a lot of time In other From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need Perfmon help. I hope you mean 4 GB of RAM. :-) Yes, those numbers sound OK. You need to switch to the performance tab and investigate who is page faulting the most and who is generating the most I/O delta (that is, the I/O read, i/o write, i/o other is increasing the most quickly). Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 3:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need Perfmon help. The system has 4Mb of ram with 1.2 GB free, but the pf usage is 2.74GB. Store is the largest abuser at about 1.2Gb, but I've always felt that was about normal for an SBS box. What should I look for here? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need Perfmon help. Performance is an art, not a science. That being said, start off by using task manager. On the Performance tab, how much physical memory is free? How committed is the page file? If those numbers are bad, you can probably stop. If not, on the Processes tab, add Page faults, Page faults delta, I/O Reads, I/O Writes, and I/O Other; and let's find out what tasks are using the I/O. That'll probably be hint. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Need Perfmon help. I've got a server that is constantly reporting 80-99% disk usage every day. I setup a Trace log for Disk input/output and a Counter Log looking at the Physical Disk totals of % Disk and Idle time, Avg. Queue length, then the same for each of the spindles. I've got a good set of etl and blg files. I used tracerpt to create the CSV dumpfile and workload text files, but relog won't work on the blg files. It keeps telling me: Error: The specified record was not found in the log file. Plus I can't make hide nor hair of what I'm suppose to be looking for in the CSV file. How do I take these files and get some sort of sense as to why this server feels the need to spend all it's time accessing the hard drive? Regards, Jim Majorowicz, MCP Sr.
RE: BES Server 4.5
It was supposed to be late April. I know there are Beta's out there to DL. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES Server 4.5 So does anyone know the expected release of 4.5 for the BB's? __ Stefan Jafs From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May-08-08 12:05 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES Server 4.5 BES 4.1 SP5 is the latest. There is no BES 4.5. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: BES Server 4.5 I thought that the BES Server 4.5 was released but can't find in Rim's website! Is it not available yet? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Removing SBS2003.
If you can get some specific technical details, I'd be really interested to know what they are. Active Directory isn't aware of SBS or otherwise (there is no such thing as an Active Directory that thinks it's SBS), so whoever your contacts are will need to elaborate on what it is they are claiming. Cheers Ken From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 9:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. Ken, thats interesting as we were told by Microsoft that we would need to transition the SBS server first, as this would fix the domain to full 2003 AD type not SBS restricted, and then move to new hardware as if not transitioned then the domain still thinks it is SBS and you can get unusual results. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would be recommended if you want to keep the existing SBS server in the environment. If you want to transition to alternate machines (e.g. separate Exchange servers, DCs, WSS boxes, because the existing hardware is due to be retired), then this isn't really necessary. Cheers Ken From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. Microsoft do an SBS 2003 to windows Transition pack. You run it on your SBS 2003 server and it converts it to a full blown Windows 2003 DC running full Exchange 2003 standard. It also converts your SBS cals to Windows 2003 and Exchange 2003 cals. It is the recommended way to carry out this change. It works successfully we have done upwards of 10 transitions, but there were 2 which were problematic but a free call to PSS resovled the issues. This leaves you with a full 2003 functional domain without any of the SBS restrictions. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you can just transfer the roles. SBS 2003 will complain, but you get a couple of hours before it starts its shutdown sequence. Just run dcpromo on the SBS 2003 box, and that will remove AD from the SBS2003 box and references to that server in AD (no need for metadata cleanup). Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. It goes something like that... except that the SBS2003 server won't let any other machine hold the FSMO roles. You need to violently rip SBS2003 out and tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles. The procedure would go something like this: 1) Bring up 2003 machine 2) Add 2003 machine to SBS2003 domain as an additional domain controller 3) Let the DCs sync 4) Pull the plug on the SBS2003 server 5) Tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles Joe Fox wrote: I guess the subject says it all. I have a SBS2003 server on my network, and want to replace it with a 2003 Server. Is it as simple as bringing the new 2003 box online, promoting it to domain controller, and then transferring the FSMO roles to it from SBS? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Removing SBS2003.
Once again I'd like to thank everyone for their advice. Just to clarify, this is a development lab that I have at home. What I finally wound up doing last night was unjoining the 5 machines (both physical and virtual) from the domain, after I exported their mail to .PSTs, and just deleted the SBS VM. Since I was not going to be using Exchange in the new environment, I just brought up a new DC and started joining machines to the domain. All seems to be running swimmingly. Thanks. Joe On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can get some specific technical details, I'd be really interested to know what they are. Active Directory isn't aware of SBS or otherwise (there is no such thing as an Active Directory that thinks it's SBS), so whoever your contacts are will need to elaborate on what it is they are claiming. Cheers Ken *From:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, 9 May 2008 9:46 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Removing SBS2003. Ken, thats interesting as we were told by Microsoft that we would need to transition the SBS server first, as this would fix the domain to full 2003 AD type not SBS restricted, and then move to new hardware as if not transitioned then the domain still thinks it is SBS and you can get unusual results. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would be recommended if you want to keep the existing SBS server in the environment. If you want to transition to alternate machines (e.g. separate Exchange servers, DCs, WSS boxes, because the existing hardware is due to be retired), then this isn't really necessary. Cheers Ken *From:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, 9 May 2008 5:53 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Removing SBS2003. Microsoft do an SBS 2003 to windows Transition pack. You run it on your SBS 2003 server and it converts it to a full blown Windows 2003 DC running full Exchange 2003 standard. It also converts your SBS cals to Windows 2003 and Exchange 2003 cals. It is the recommended way to carry out this change. It works successfully we have done upwards of 10 transitions, but there were 2 which were problematic but a free call to PSS resovled the issues. This leaves you with a full 2003 functional domain without any of the SBS restrictions. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you can just transfer the roles. SBS 2003 will complain, but you get a couple of hours before it starts its shutdown sequence. Just run dcpromo on the SBS 2003 box, and that will remove AD from the SBS2003 box and references to that server in AD (no need for metadata cleanup). Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. It goes something like that... except that the SBS2003 server won't let any other machine hold the FSMO roles. You need to violently rip SBS2003 out and tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles. The procedure would go something like this: 1) Bring up 2003 machine 2) Add 2003 machine to SBS2003 domain as an additional domain controller 3) Let the DCs sync 4) Pull the plug on the SBS2003 server 5) Tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles Joe Fox wrote: I guess the subject says it all. I have a SBS2003 server on my network, and want to replace it with a 2003 Server. Is it as simple as bringing the new 2003 box online, promoting it to domain controller, and then transferring the FSMO roles to it from SBS? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. -- Joe Fox Systems/Network Administrator Mobile# (716) 846-9308 http://www.linkedin.com/in/josephfoxjr The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any unauthorized use, disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is
Re: Removing SBS2003.
Ken, I understand what you are saying, I don't believe it is and AD issue but we were informed from MS presales partner support that any Windows 2003 SBS domain that needs to be changed to full blown windows and exchange, without any of the SBS restrictions needs the SBS server transitioned using the transtion pack. This removes any licensing and user limits, and also converts your SBS cals to full blown cals. For the cost of the transition pack, it makes sense, rather than going out and buyin Exchange, WIndows, and all the cals required. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can get some specific technical details, I'd be really interested to know what they are. Active Directory isn't aware of SBS or otherwise (there is no such thing as an Active Directory that thinks it's SBS), so whoever your contacts are will need to elaborate on what it is they are claiming. Cheers Ken *From:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, 9 May 2008 9:46 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Removing SBS2003. Ken, thats interesting as we were told by Microsoft that we would need to transition the SBS server first, as this would fix the domain to full 2003 AD type not SBS restricted, and then move to new hardware as if not transitioned then the domain still thinks it is SBS and you can get unusual results. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would be recommended if you want to keep the existing SBS server in the environment. If you want to transition to alternate machines (e.g. separate Exchange servers, DCs, WSS boxes, because the existing hardware is due to be retired), then this isn't really necessary. Cheers Ken *From:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, 9 May 2008 5:53 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Removing SBS2003. Microsoft do an SBS 2003 to windows Transition pack. You run it on your SBS 2003 server and it converts it to a full blown Windows 2003 DC running full Exchange 2003 standard. It also converts your SBS cals to Windows 2003 and Exchange 2003 cals. It is the recommended way to carry out this change. It works successfully we have done upwards of 10 transitions, but there were 2 which were problematic but a free call to PSS resovled the issues. This leaves you with a full 2003 functional domain without any of the SBS restrictions. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you can just transfer the roles. SBS 2003 will complain, but you get a couple of hours before it starts its shutdown sequence. Just run dcpromo on the SBS 2003 box, and that will remove AD from the SBS2003 box and references to that server in AD (no need for metadata cleanup). Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. It goes something like that... except that the SBS2003 server won't let any other machine hold the FSMO roles. You need to violently rip SBS2003 out and tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles. The procedure would go something like this: 1) Bring up 2003 machine 2) Add 2003 machine to SBS2003 domain as an additional domain controller 3) Let the DCs sync 4) Pull the plug on the SBS2003 server 5) Tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles Joe Fox wrote: I guess the subject says it all. I have a SBS2003 server on my network, and want to replace it with a 2003 Server. Is it as simple as bringing the new 2003 box online, promoting it to domain controller, and then transferring the FSMO roles to it from SBS? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: BES Server 4.5
Here is a cool site that has links to each carriers BB downloads. http://www.dynoplex.com/rimos.shtml From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES Server 4.5 It was supposed to be late April. I know there are Beta's out there to DL. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES Server 4.5 So does anyone know the expected release of 4.5 for the BB's? __ Stefan Jafs From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May-08-08 12:05 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES Server 4.5 BES 4.1 SP5 is the latest. There is no BES 4.5. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: BES Server 4.5 I thought that the BES Server 4.5 was released but can't find in Rim's website! Is it not available yet? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Removing SBS2003.
From a licensing cost perspective - I agree. But if an org already has the necessary CALs (or the cost of CAL isn't otherwise an issue) there is no /technical/ need for the transition pack - i.e. there is nothing special about AD or Exchange or WSS etc that is caused by the former presence of SBS Cheers Ken From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 10:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. Ken, I understand what you are saying, I don't believe it is and AD issue but we were informed from MS presales partner support that any Windows 2003 SBS domain that needs to be changed to full blown windows and exchange, without any of the SBS restrictions needs the SBS server transitioned using the transtion pack. This removes any licensing and user limits, and also converts your SBS cals to full blown cals. For the cost of the transition pack, it makes sense, rather than going out and buyin Exchange, WIndows, and all the cals required. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can get some specific technical details, I'd be really interested to know what they are. Active Directory isn't aware of SBS or otherwise (there is no such thing as an Active Directory that thinks it's SBS), so whoever your contacts are will need to elaborate on what it is they are claiming. Cheers Ken From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 9:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. Ken, thats interesting as we were told by Microsoft that we would need to transition the SBS server first, as this would fix the domain to full 2003 AD type not SBS restricted, and then move to new hardware as if not transitioned then the domain still thinks it is SBS and you can get unusual results. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would be recommended if you want to keep the existing SBS server in the environment. If you want to transition to alternate machines (e.g. separate Exchange servers, DCs, WSS boxes, because the existing hardware is due to be retired), then this isn't really necessary. Cheers Ken From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. Microsoft do an SBS 2003 to windows Transition pack. You run it on your SBS 2003 server and it converts it to a full blown Windows 2003 DC running full Exchange 2003 standard. It also converts your SBS cals to Windows 2003 and Exchange 2003 cals. It is the recommended way to carry out this change. It works successfully we have done upwards of 10 transitions, but there were 2 which were problematic but a free call to PSS resovled the issues. This leaves you with a full 2003 functional domain without any of the SBS restrictions. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you can just transfer the roles. SBS 2003 will complain, but you get a couple of hours before it starts its shutdown sequence. Just run dcpromo on the SBS 2003 box, and that will remove AD from the SBS2003 box and references to that server in AD (no need for metadata cleanup). Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. It goes something like that... except that the SBS2003 server won't let any other machine hold the FSMO roles. You need to violently rip SBS2003 out and tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles. The procedure would go something like this: 1) Bring up 2003 machine 2) Add 2003 machine to SBS2003 domain as an additional domain controller 3) Let the DCs sync 4) Pull the plug on the SBS2003 server 5) Tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles Joe Fox wrote: I guess the subject says it all. I have a SBS2003 server on my network, and want to replace it with a 2003 Server. Is it as simple as bringing the new 2003 box online, promoting it to domain controller, and then transferring the FSMO roles to it from SBS? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and
RE: Removing SBS2003.
Yup, that's how they sell it.they talk el crappo The restrictions are built into the OS, not AD. It also leaves Exchange on a DC which is not good. S From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. Ken, I understand what you are saying, I don't believe it is and AD issue but we were informed from MS presales partner support that any Windows 2003 SBS domain that needs to be changed to full blown windows and exchange, without any of the SBS restrictions needs the SBS server transitioned using the transtion pack. This removes any licensing and user limits, and also converts your SBS cals to full blown cals. For the cost of the transition pack, it makes sense, rather than going out and buyin Exchange, WIndows, and all the cals required. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can get some specific technical details, I'd be really interested to know what they are. Active Directory isn't aware of SBS or otherwise (there is no such thing as an Active Directory that thinks it's SBS), so whoever your contacts are will need to elaborate on what it is they are claiming. Cheers Ken From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 9:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. Ken, thats interesting as we were told by Microsoft that we would need to transition the SBS server first, as this would fix the domain to full 2003 AD type not SBS restricted, and then move to new hardware as if not transitioned then the domain still thinks it is SBS and you can get unusual results. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would be recommended if you want to keep the existing SBS server in the environment. If you want to transition to alternate machines (e.g. separate Exchange servers, DCs, WSS boxes, because the existing hardware is due to be retired), then this isn't really necessary. Cheers Ken From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. Microsoft do an SBS 2003 to windows Transition pack. You run it on your SBS 2003 server and it converts it to a full blown Windows 2003 DC running full Exchange 2003 standard. It also converts your SBS cals to Windows 2003 and Exchange 2003 cals. It is the recommended way to carry out this change. It works successfully we have done upwards of 10 transitions, but there were 2 which were problematic but a free call to PSS resovled the issues. This leaves you with a full 2003 functional domain without any of the SBS restrictions. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you can just transfer the roles. SBS 2003 will complain, but you get a couple of hours before it starts its shutdown sequence. Just run dcpromo on the SBS 2003 box, and that will remove AD from the SBS2003 box and references to that server in AD (no need for metadata cleanup). Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. It goes something like that... except that the SBS2003 server won't let any other machine hold the FSMO roles. You need to violently rip SBS2003 out and tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles. The procedure would go something like this: 1) Bring up 2003 machine 2) Add 2003 machine to SBS2003 domain as an additional domain controller 3) Let the DCs sync 4) Pull the plug on the SBS2003 server 5) Tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles Joe Fox wrote: I guess the subject says it all. I have a SBS2003 server on my network, and want to replace it with a 2003 Server. Is it as simple as bringing the new 2003 box online, promoting it to domain controller, and then transferring the FSMO roles to it from SBS? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. -- Carbon
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Permissions to a trusted user for a mailbox
I have to move or recreate from scratch users from a domain to a trusted WAN domain. But for a while they have to use the same mailbox on the first domain. Where to give permissions ? And what to do if I create a new user on the trusted domain (i have acces to the WAN DC but creating users I don't get mail infos because exchange is not there) ? TIA GuidoElia HELPPC ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
It is an Odd number SP. I should have known to tell the fam to wait a bit. - Original Message - From: Ziots, Edward To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. __ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are property of Indiana Members Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
Always go against the odds, with odd numbers :-) Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates It is an Odd number SP. I should have known to tell the fam to wait a bit. - Original Message - From: Ziots, Edward mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. __ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are property of Indiana Members Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
What is M$? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Removing SBS2003.
Ok Gents I bow to your knowledge. Though I will continue to transition any customers SBS2003 server 1st before migrating the roles etc to replacement hardware and seperating of Exchange from the DC. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:57 PM, NTSysAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, that's how they sell it.they talk el crappo The restrictions are built into the OS, not AD. It also leaves Exchange on a DC which is not good. S *From:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, May 09, 2008 9:10 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Removing SBS2003. Ken, I understand what you are saying, I don't believe it is and AD issue but we were informed from MS presales partner support that any Windows 2003 SBS domain that needs to be changed to full blown windows and exchange, without any of the SBS restrictions needs the SBS server transitioned using the transtion pack. This removes any licensing and user limits, and also converts your SBS cals to full blown cals. For the cost of the transition pack, it makes sense, rather than going out and buyin Exchange, WIndows, and all the cals required. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can get some specific technical details, I'd be really interested to know what they are. Active Directory isn't aware of SBS or otherwise (there is no such thing as an Active Directory that thinks it's SBS), so whoever your contacts are will need to elaborate on what it is they are claiming. Cheers Ken *From:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, 9 May 2008 9:46 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Removing SBS2003. Ken, thats interesting as we were told by Microsoft that we would need to transition the SBS server first, as this would fix the domain to full 2003 AD type not SBS restricted, and then move to new hardware as if not transitioned then the domain still thinks it is SBS and you can get unusual results. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would be recommended if you want to keep the existing SBS server in the environment. If you want to transition to alternate machines (e.g. separate Exchange servers, DCs, WSS boxes, because the existing hardware is due to be retired), then this isn't really necessary. Cheers Ken *From:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, 9 May 2008 5:53 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Removing SBS2003. Microsoft do an SBS 2003 to windows Transition pack. You run it on your SBS 2003 server and it converts it to a full blown Windows 2003 DC running full Exchange 2003 standard. It also converts your SBS cals to Windows 2003 and Exchange 2003 cals. It is the recommended way to carry out this change. It works successfully we have done upwards of 10 transitions, but there were 2 which were problematic but a free call to PSS resovled the issues. This leaves you with a full 2003 functional domain without any of the SBS restrictions. Graeme On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you can just transfer the roles. SBS 2003 will complain, but you get a couple of hours before it starts its shutdown sequence. Just run dcpromo on the SBS 2003 box, and that will remove AD from the SBS2003 box and references to that server in AD (no need for metadata cleanup). Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 5:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Removing SBS2003. It goes something like that... except that the SBS2003 server won't let any other machine hold the FSMO roles. You need to violently rip SBS2003 out and tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles. The procedure would go something like this: 1) Bring up 2003 machine 2) Add 2003 machine to SBS2003 domain as an additional domain controller 3) Let the DCs sync 4) Pull the plug on the SBS2003 server 5) Tell the 2003 DC to seize the roles Joe Fox wrote: I guess the subject says it all. I have a SBS2003 server on my network, and want to replace it with a 2003 Server. Is it as simple as bringing the new 2003 box online, promoting it to domain controller, and then transferring the FSMO roles to it from SBS? -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home.
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
Is that your Friday funny? John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates What is M$? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
A pet peeve. From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Is that your Friday funny? John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates What is M$? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
Microsoft=M$ Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates What is M$? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
R: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
We call it M€ ! GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: venerdì 9 maggio 2008 15.49 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Is that your Friday funny? John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates What is M$? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP’s with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn’t Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
+1 On 5/9/08, Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A pet peeve. From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Is that your Friday funny? John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates What is M$? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
It is mega but micro Best regards, Anatoly Podgoretsky - Original Message - From: Martin Blackstone To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:39 PM Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates What is M$? ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
On 9 May 2008 at 8:14, David W. McSpadden wrote: Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. For those who want to hold off for a while, this blocking tool from Microsoft works well: Download details: Windows Service Pack Blocker Tool Kit http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=D7C9A07A-5267- 4BD6-87D0-E2A72099EDB7 or here if the above wraps unusably: http://preview.tinyurl.com/4t3lql It contains a batch-file, an executable program, and an ADM template. I saw an interesting write-up on problems with SP3 and AMD-processor machines with OEM install images here: Windows XP Service Pack 3 endless reboots Posted by woody on 08 May 2008 - 17:47:16 Windows Patches/Security Do you have an HP computer with an AMD processor? If so, and you have Windows XP's Automatic Updates turned on, you may be in for an unpleasant surprise. Long-time Microsoft observer and MVP Jesper Johansson got bit: Last night WSUS deployed XP Service Pack 3 to the sole remaining computer running XP that I have. This morning, I came down and was greeted with incessant reboots. The computer booted, apologized for not being able to boot properly, asked if I wanted to boot into safe mode, defaulted to normal boot, rebooted, and so on and so on. It would boot into safe mode fine, so I did that. Not knowing what it was, I ran a disk check, which turned out to be a real mistake. Once I configured the computer to run a disk check at startup it would not even boot into safe mode. Fortunately, I know Bill Castner, another Microsoft MVP, and he pointed me to a solution. It turns out that this computer is running an OEM OS image from HP. HP, apparently along other OEMs, deploy the same image to Intel-based computers that they do to AMD-based computers. That means they all have the intelppm.sys driver installed and running. That driver provides power management on Intel-based computers. On an AMD-based computer, amdk8.sys provides the same functionality. Ordinarily, having intelppm.sys running appears to cause no problems. However, on the first reboot after a service pack installation, it causes a big problem. The computer either fails to boot, as in my case, or crashes with a STOP error code of 0x007e. It will boot into safe mode because the drivers are disabled there. http://www.askwoody.com/newscomments.php?newsid=2087 I checked and my Lenovo running an AMD Athlon 64 X2 does NOT have amdk8.sys, it has the intelppm.sys driver. I have NOT applied SP3 to this box, but on my lone SP3 test box, which has a Celeron processor, SP3 applied fine. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
I rolled it out on a couple of pcs at the office as a last ditch effort with some .net35 issues and it actually worked and fixed my .net issue, yeah me! -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates On 9 May 2008 at 8:14, David W. McSpadden wrote: Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. For those who want to hold off for a while, this blocking tool from Microsoft works well: Download details: Windows Service Pack Blocker Tool Kit http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=D7C9A07A-5267- 4BD6-87D0-E2A72099EDB7 or here if the above wraps unusably: http://preview.tinyurl.com/4t3lql It contains a batch-file, an executable program, and an ADM template. I saw an interesting write-up on problems with SP3 and AMD-processor machines with OEM install images here: Windows XP Service Pack 3 endless reboots Posted by woody on 08 May 2008 - 17:47:16 Windows Patches/Security Do you have an HP computer with an AMD processor? If so, and you have Windows XP's Automatic Updates turned on, you may be in for an unpleasant surprise. Long-time Microsoft observer and MVP Jesper Johansson got bit: Last night WSUS deployed XP Service Pack 3 to the sole remaining computer running XP that I have. This morning, I came down and was greeted with incessant reboots. The computer booted, apologized for not being able to boot properly, asked if I wanted to boot into safe mode, defaulted to normal boot, rebooted, and so on and so on. It would boot into safe mode fine, so I did that. Not knowing what it was, I ran a disk check, which turned out to be a real mistake. Once I configured the computer to run a disk check at startup it would not even boot into safe mode. Fortunately, I know Bill Castner, another Microsoft MVP, and he pointed me to a solution. It turns out that this computer is running an OEM OS image from HP. HP, apparently along other OEMs, deploy the same image to Intel-based computers that they do to AMD-based computers. That means they all have the intelppm.sys driver installed and running. That driver provides power management on Intel-based computers. On an AMD-based computer, amdk8.sys provides the same functionality. Ordinarily, having intelppm.sys running appears to cause no problems. However, on the first reboot after a service pack installation, it causes a big problem. The computer either fails to boot, as in my case, or crashes with a STOP error code of 0x007e. It will boot into safe mode because the drivers are disabled there. http://www.askwoody.com/newscomments.php?newsid=2087 I checked and my Lenovo running an AMD Athlon 64 X2 does NOT have amdk8.sys, it has the intelppm.sys driver. I have NOT applied SP3 to this box, but on my lone SP3 test box, which has a Celeron processor, SP3 applied fine. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
Could you describe in greater detail how these systems, wouldn't come up ? The only thing I have noticed with SP3 and other service packs, is that there tends to be pre as well as post-login processes that occur *without* any visual queues or information/dialogue boxes to let you know whats happening. In those cases, I have seen it take anywhere from 3-30 minutes to complete depending on the power of the system as well as the fragmentation of the HD. The key to this is checking for hard drive activity. Not waiting, and rebooting the system to try to fix the issue can very likely cause the system to become non-bootable. I have had a long and hard (queue the cracks) road up hill both ways trying to educate my users about this - as they tend to be self-medicating with rebooting prior to informing me of an issue. Their kindness to try to not bother me is both a blessing and a curse. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:14 AM, David W. McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
As opposed to Shook...who is Martin's pet monkey. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates +1 On 5/9/08, Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A pet peeve. From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Is that your Friday funny? John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates What is M$? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
Ouch Cruel Cruel, TVK you heading to Tech Ed next month? Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates As opposed to Shook...who is Martin's pet monkey. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates +1 On 5/9/08, Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A pet peeve. From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Is that your Friday funny? John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates What is M$? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
Absolutely! Wouldn't miss it for the world. And we definitely need to get a bigger list group together to partake in frosty beverages at some point during the week. -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Ouch Cruel Cruel, TVK you heading to Tech Ed next month? Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates As opposed to Shook...who is Martin's pet monkey. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates +1 On 5/9/08, Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A pet peeve. From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Is that your Friday funny? John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates What is M$? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
I agree, need to get contact info, send yours my to email, so I can give you a ring when I am on ground, I will be in Saturday probably early, since I got Sunday pre-training on hacking techniques and such. John Cook you coming up, again pass me your info so I can input into the crackly-berry.. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Absolutely! Wouldn't miss it for the world. And we definitely need to get a bigger list group together to partake in frosty beverages at some point during the week. -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Ouch Cruel Cruel, TVK you heading to Tech Ed next month? Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates As opposed to Shook...who is Martin's pet monkey. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates +1 On 5/9/08, Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A pet peeve. From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Is that your Friday funny? John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates What is M$? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
Take off ,eh? Shook -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates As opposed to Shook...who is Martin's pet monkey. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates +1 On 5/9/08, Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A pet peeve. From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Is that your Friday funny? John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates What is M$? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
All right, you hoser! - Original Message - From: Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Take off ,eh? Shook -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates As opposed to Shook...who is Martin's pet monkey. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates +1 On 5/9/08, Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A pet peeve. From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Is that your Friday funny? John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates What is M$? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
Hoser. -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Take off ,eh? Shook -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates As opposed to Shook...who is Martin's pet monkey. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates +1 On 5/9/08, Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A pet peeve. From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Is that your Friday funny? John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates What is M$? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Why SP's with M$ are always a wait and see, it usually never goes smoothly. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates So why doesn't Microsoft remove the Windows Update version from Windows Update? Gezzz. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates Had a couple family members call last night about SP3 killing their machines. They use Windows Updates nightly and when they rebooted their machine it wouldn't come up. After many SafeMode boots I called TechSupport and they told me there is an issue with the WindowsUpdate version of SP3 and to have it blocked from being downloaded on any other machine until it is resolved. They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. Didn't know what anybody else knew. Good night. IT works, but keeping IT working is the hard part. Automation is great, until it breaks. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Desktop Backup Con't
Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules. It can detect file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop backup. His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop. Does anyone knows of any application can do this? Thanks. Best Regards, Wei Yu Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes? Yahoo! Movies is all you need -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
And the steps are? -- Mike Gill From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
I don't remember now. It was 2 am my 15 month old was crying with a fever and I am generally braindead. I think someone else touched on it with the amd and intel power management drivers though. - Original Message - From: Mike Gill To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates And the steps are? -- Mike Gill From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. __ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are property of Indiana Members Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-amd-base d-computer-boot-after-installing-xp-sp3.aspx From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates And the steps are? -- Mike Gill From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates
epic fail. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:08 PM, David W. McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't remember now. It was 2 am my 15 month old was crying with a fever and I am generally braindead. I think someone else touched on it with the amd and intel power management drivers though. - Original Message - From: Mike Gill To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: RE: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates And the steps are? -- Mike Gill From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: WinXpSP3 from Windows Updates They seemed to know all about it because they stepped me through the correct SafeMode fix for it. __ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are property of Indiana Members Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures
I thought at one point Sunbelt sponsored a SQL group - but it's not listed here: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/Communities/ So if anyone knows what happened to it, or can point me to a better place to post this question I would appreciate it: A customer came to me with the following problem: There are over 6000 SQL Servers in their environment running MS SQL Server 2000 or MS SQL Server 2005. They have a stored procedure that needs to be added to each server. Aside from manually connecting to each one, has anyone had any experience automating this? ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures
Do you have IP connectivity? If so, it's pretty easy. What's it worth to you? :-) Seriously, put it in a file.sql text file and ship it out with oSQL.exe. No biggie at all. I've never done this with 6,000 (!!) SQL servers, but I've done it with several dozen. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures I thought at one point Sunbelt sponsored a SQL group - but it's not listed here: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/Communities/ So if anyone knows what happened to it, or can point me to a better place to post this question I would appreciate it: A customer came to me with the following problem: There are over 6000 SQL Servers in their environment running MS SQL Server 2000 or MS SQL Server 2005. They have a stored procedure that needs to be added to each server. Aside from manually connecting to each one, has anyone had any experience automating this? ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Virtualization on Server 2008
I mentioned in another thread that this summer I'm looking at migrating our first servers from Server 2003 to Server 2008, migrating from Exchange 2003 to 2007, and consolidating a couple of servers. Good times. I want to make use of server virtualization, which I've never played with before. My vision is to have a big central server for our organization that runs Exchange, our web sites, and handles FSMO roles in separate VMs. Any thoughts/input/caveats on this idea? We're a small organization--around 550 users. We currently have Exchange and our web sites running on the same physical server with no problems, and that server is 5 years old. It has more than enough horse power to handle these tasks, but is reaching the end of its life. Maybe there's no need to separate things into different VMs. I know that in the past, it wasn't considered a best practice to run Exchange on a DC. That's why I was looking at putting Exchange in its own VM, and then having a separate VM that is a DC and handles FSMO roles. But then, is there a need to put the DC and FSMO roles in its own VM vs. just being handled by the host OS? And my reason for running IIS in its own VM was for security--if some sort of exploit allows IIS to be hacked, the hacker would be isolated from other functions of the server. But maybe that's paranoia; I know IIS's and Windows' security have improved quite a bit from back when I first started cutting my teeth. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures
What makes it strange is that you imagine with 6000 SQL servers, they would be used to doing that kind of stuff. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures Do you have IP connectivity? If so, it's pretty easy. What's it worth to you? :-) Seriously, put it in a file.sql text file and ship it out with oSQL.exe. No biggie at all. I've never done this with 6,000 (!!) SQL servers, but I've done it with several dozen. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures I thought at one point Sunbelt sponsored a SQL group - but it's not listed here: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/Communities/ So if anyone knows what happened to it, or can point me to a better place to post this question I would appreciate it: A customer came to me with the following problem: There are over 6000 SQL Servers in their environment running MS SQL Server 2000 or MS SQL Server 2005. They have a stored procedure that needs to be added to each server. Aside from manually connecting to each one, has anyone had any experience automating this? ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Virtualization on Server 2008
You have a SAN? I'll wait until I hear the answer to that before commenting any anything else. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Virtualization on Server 2008 I mentioned in another thread that this summer I'm looking at migrating our first servers from Server 2003 to Server 2008, migrating from Exchange 2003 to 2007, and consolidating a couple of servers. Good times. I want to make use of server virtualization, which I've never played with before. My vision is to have a big central server for our organization that runs Exchange, our web sites, and handles FSMO roles in separate VMs. Any thoughts/input/caveats on this idea? We're a small organization--around 550 users. We currently have Exchange and our web sites running on the same physical server with no problems, and that server is 5 years old. It has more than enough horse power to handle these tasks, but is reaching the end of its life. Maybe there's no need to separate things into different VMs. I know that in the past, it wasn't considered a best practice to run Exchange on a DC. That's why I was looking at putting Exchange in its own VM, and then having a separate VM that is a DC and handles FSMO roles. But then, is there a need to put the DC and FSMO roles in its own VM vs. just being handled by the host OS? And my reason for running IIS in its own VM was for security--if some sort of exploit allows IIS to be hacked, the hacker would be isolated from other functions of the server. But maybe that's paranoia; I know IIS's and Windows' security have improved quite a bit from back when I first started cutting my teeth. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures
I'm a bit dense when it comes to SQL - what is oSQL.exe? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures Do you have IP connectivity? If so, it's pretty easy. What's it worth to you? :-) Seriously, put it in a file.sql text file and ship it out with oSQL.exe. No biggie at all. I've never done this with 6,000 (!!) SQL servers, but I've done it with several dozen. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures
CLI interface that let's you run commands against SQL Server without going through a full query editor. On 5/9/08 11:45 AM, Bryan Garmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a bit dense when it comes to SQL - what is oSQL.exe? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures Do you have IP connectivity? If so, it's pretty easy. What's it worth to you? :-) Seriously, put it in a file.sql text file and ship it out with oSQL.exe. No biggie at all. I've never done this with 6,000 (!!) SQL servers, but I've done it with several dozen. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Salvador Manzo [ 620 W. 35th St - Los Angeles, CA 90089 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Auxiliary Services IT, Datacenter University of Southern California 818-612-5112 The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom is courage. Pericles' Funeral Oration (431 BC) ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures
It's a utility that comes with the client tools install. You give it a server name, optional credentials, and a file of t-sql commands to execute. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures I'm a bit dense when it comes to SQL - what is oSQL.exe? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures Do you have IP connectivity? If so, it's pretty easy. What's it worth to you? :-) Seriously, put it in a file.sql text file and ship it out with oSQL.exe. No biggie at all. I've never done this with 6,000 (!!) SQL servers, but I've done it with several dozen. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures
6G in SQL servers, wows, do they go a dedicated SQL server every single application they own? Maybe scale out and up is better way I agree with Michael Smiths approach with OSSQL.exe Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures I thought at one point Sunbelt sponsored a SQL group - but it's not listed here: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/Communities/ So if anyone knows what happened to it, or can point me to a better place to post this question I would appreciate it: A customer came to me with the following problem: There are over 6000 SQL Servers in their environment running MS SQL Server 2000 or MS SQL Server 2005. They have a stored procedure that needs to be added to each server. Aside from manually connecting to each one, has anyone had any experience automating this? ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures
http://www.king-designs.com/BurnSQLOverview.htm Take a look at this one too. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures It's a utility that comes with the client tools install. You give it a server name, optional credentials, and a file of t-sql commands to execute. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures I'm a bit dense when it comes to SQL - what is oSQL.exe? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures Do you have IP connectivity? If so, it's pretty easy. What's it worth to you? :-) Seriously, put it in a file.sql text file and ship it out with oSQL.exe. No biggie at all. I've never done this with 6,000 (!!) SQL servers, but I've done it with several dozen. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Virtualization on Server 2008
We have a PowerVault attached to the PowerEdge 2600 server that currently acts as our core server. I'll need to move that over to this new server. It stores roaming profiles and redirected folders at this point. Our Exchange 2003 data isn't on it; it's housed on the RAID array that's built into that server. I was thinking of moving it over to the PowerVault, but to be honest I'm not sure of the performance impact that would have (if any). Is an external device necessarily slower than an internal one? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualization on Server 2008 You have a SAN? I'll wait until I hear the answer to that before commenting any anything else. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Virtualization on Server 2008 I mentioned in another thread that this summer I'm looking at migrating our first servers from Server 2003 to Server 2008, migrating from Exchange 2003 to 2007, and consolidating a couple of servers. Good times. I want to make use of server virtualization, which I've never played with before. My vision is to have a big central server for our organization that runs Exchange, our web sites, and handles FSMO roles in separate VMs. Any thoughts/input/caveats on this idea? We're a small organization--around 550 users. We currently have Exchange and our web sites running on the same physical server with no problems, and that server is 5 years old. It has more than enough horse power to handle these tasks, but is reaching the end of its life. Maybe there's no need to separate things into different VMs. I know that in the past, it wasn't considered a best practice to run Exchange on a DC. That's why I was looking at putting Exchange in its own VM, and then having a separate VM that is a DC and handles FSMO roles. But then, is there a need to put the DC and FSMO roles in its own VM vs. just being handled by the host OS? And my reason for running IIS in its own VM was for security--if some sort of exploit allows IIS to be hacked, the hacker would be isolated from other functions of the server. But maybe that's paranoia; I know IIS's and Windows' security have improved quite a bit from back when I first started cutting my teeth. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures
My thoughts also... Could be the NSA storing everything you could think of. 2 SQL servers in a cluster is more than enough to me! -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures What makes it strange is that you imagine with 6000 SQL servers, they would be used to doing that kind of stuff. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures Do you have IP connectivity? If so, it's pretty easy. What's it worth to you? :-) Seriously, put it in a file.sql text file and ship it out with oSQL.exe. No biggie at all. I've never done this with 6,000 (!!) SQL servers, but I've done it with several dozen. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures I thought at one point Sunbelt sponsored a SQL group - but it's not listed here: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/Communities/ So if anyone knows what happened to it, or can point me to a better place to post this question I would appreciate it: A customer came to me with the following problem: There are over 6000 SQL Servers in their environment running MS SQL Server 2000 or MS SQL Server 2005. They have a stored procedure that needs to be added to each server. Aside from manually connecting to each one, has anyone had any experience automating this? ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop Backup Con't
What would the proper Win32 modules be? ...Tim -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules. It can detect file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop backup. His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop. Does anyone knows of any application can do this? Thanks. Best Regards, Wei Yu Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes? Yahoo! Movies is all you need -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures
I am definitely in the wrong business. A couple hundred lines of vbscript for $1,000 a copy! Wow. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures http://www.king-designs.com/BurnSQLOverview.htm Take a look at this one too. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures It's a utility that comes with the client tools install. You give it a server name, optional credentials, and a file of t-sql commands to execute. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures I'm a bit dense when it comes to SQL - what is oSQL.exe? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures Do you have IP connectivity? If so, it's pretty easy. What's it worth to you? :-) Seriously, put it in a file.sql text file and ship it out with oSQL.exe. No biggie at all. I've never done this with 6,000 (!!) SQL servers, but I've done it with several dozen. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Desktop Backup Con't
Dammit - I knew while I was typing that I was gonna have to answer that question. And its a good question too. But I dont remember the answer off-hand. :-/ But we (my Perl developer) did create a very similar routine in Perl a few years back for a custom file-transfer back-end for an FTP site at a previous employer. Amusingly it was a couple of years before I became actively interested in Perl myself - so I didnt pay much attention to the details at the time. I'll see if I cant dig something up. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would the proper Win32 modules be? ...Tim -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules. It can detect file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop backup. His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop. Does anyone knows of any application can do this? Thanks. Best Regards, Wei Yu Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes? Yahoo! Movies is all you need -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures
Sweet. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures http://www.king-designs.com/BurnSQLOverview.htm Take a look at this one too. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures It's a utility that comes with the client tools install. You give it a server name, optional credentials, and a file of t-sql commands to execute. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures I'm a bit dense when it comes to SQL - what is oSQL.exe? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures Do you have IP connectivity? If so, it's pretty easy. What's it worth to you? :-) Seriously, put it in a file.sql text file and ship it out with oSQL.exe. No biggie at all. I've never done this with 6,000 (!!) SQL servers, but I've done it with several dozen. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures
Nod I got 4X SQL clusters, down from 240 single instances. Much more manageable. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures My thoughts also... Could be the NSA storing everything you could think of. 2 SQL servers in a cluster is more than enough to me! -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures What makes it strange is that you imagine with 6000 SQL servers, they would be used to doing that kind of stuff. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures Do you have IP connectivity? If so, it's pretty easy. What's it worth to you? :-) Seriously, put it in a file.sql text file and ship it out with oSQL.exe. No biggie at all. I've never done this with 6,000 (!!) SQL servers, but I've done it with several dozen. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures I thought at one point Sunbelt sponsored a SQL group - but it's not listed here: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/Communities/ So if anyone knows what happened to it, or can point me to a better place to post this question I would appreciate it: A customer came to me with the following problem: There are over 6000 SQL Servers in their environment running MS SQL Server 2000 or MS SQL Server 2005. They have a stored procedure that needs to be added to each server. Aside from manually connecting to each one, has anyone had any experience automating this? ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures
At least you know Vbscript :) Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures I am definitely in the wrong business. A couple hundred lines of vbscript for $1,000 a copy! Wow. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures http://www.king-designs.com/BurnSQLOverview.htm Take a look at this one too. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures It's a utility that comes with the client tools install. You give it a server name, optional credentials, and a file of t-sql commands to execute. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures I'm a bit dense when it comes to SQL - what is oSQL.exe? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Rolling out MS SQL Stored Procedures Do you have IP connectivity? If so, it's pretty easy. What's it worth to you? :-) Seriously, put it in a file.sql text file and ship it out with oSQL.exe. No biggie at all. I've never done this with 6,000 (!!) SQL servers, but I've done it with several dozen. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Virtualization on Server 2008
How does it connect? -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualization on Server 2008 We have a PowerVault attached to the PowerEdge 2600 server that currently acts as our core server. I'll need to move that over to this new server. It stores roaming profiles and redirected folders at this point. Our Exchange 2003 data isn't on it; it's housed on the RAID array that's built into that server. I was thinking of moving it over to the PowerVault, but to be honest I'm not sure of the performance impact that would have (if any). Is an external device necessarily slower than an internal one? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualization on Server 2008 You have a SAN? I'll wait until I hear the answer to that before commenting any anything else. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Virtualization on Server 2008 I mentioned in another thread that this summer I'm looking at migrating our first servers from Server 2003 to Server 2008, migrating from Exchange 2003 to 2007, and consolidating a couple of servers. Good times. I want to make use of server virtualization, which I've never played with before. My vision is to have a big central server for our organization that runs Exchange, our web sites, and handles FSMO roles in separate VMs. Any thoughts/input/caveats on this idea? We're a small organization--around 550 users. We currently have Exchange and our web sites running on the same physical server with no problems, and that server is 5 years old. It has more than enough horse power to handle these tasks, but is reaching the end of its life. Maybe there's no need to separate things into different VMs. I know that in the past, it wasn't considered a best practice to run Exchange on a DC. That's why I was looking at putting Exchange in its own VM, and then having a separate VM that is a DC and handles FSMO roles. But then, is there a need to put the DC and FSMO roles in its own VM vs. just being handled by the host OS? And my reason for running IIS in its own VM was for security--if some sort of exploit allows IIS to be hacked, the hacker would be isolated from other functions of the server. But maybe that's paranoia; I know IIS's and Windows' security have improved quite a bit from back when I first started cutting my teeth. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop Backup Con't
Well I'm just starting to play with perl myself, and that seems like it could be an interesting project to play with. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't Dammit - I knew while I was typing that I was gonna have to answer that question. And its a good question too. But I dont remember the answer off-hand. :-/ But we (my Perl developer) did create a very similar routine in Perl a few years back for a custom file-transfer back-end for an FTP site at a previous employer. Amusingly it was a couple of years before I became actively interested in Perl myself - so I didnt pay much attention to the details at the time. I'll see if I cant dig something up. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would the proper Win32 modules be? ...Tim -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules. It can detect file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop backup. His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop. Does anyone knows of any application can do this? Thanks. Best Regards, Wei Yu Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes? Yahoo! Movies is all you need -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Desktop Backup Con't
I'm still looking back at my notes. A basic search via Google shows a few different modules that match the search perl module detect file changes, but I am still trying to find information on the module that I/we specifically used. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I'm just starting to play with perl myself, and that seems like it could be an interesting project to play with. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't Dammit - I knew while I was typing that I was gonna have to answer that question. And its a good question too. But I dont remember the answer off-hand. :-/ But we (my Perl developer) did create a very similar routine in Perl a few years back for a custom file-transfer back-end for an FTP site at a previous employer. Amusingly it was a couple of years before I became actively interested in Perl myself - so I didnt pay much attention to the details at the time. I'll see if I cant dig something up. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would the proper Win32 modules be? ...Tim -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules. It can detect file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop backup. His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop. Does anyone knows of any application can do this? Thanks. Best Regards, Wei Yu Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes? Yahoo! Movies is all you need -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Desktop Backup Con't
It's going to have to be something that registers the NT FileChanged event. If that helps. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't I'm still looking back at my notes. A basic search via Google shows a few different modules that match the search perl module detect file changes, but I am still trying to find information on the module that I/we specifically used. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I'm just starting to play with perl myself, and that seems like it could be an interesting project to play with. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't Dammit - I knew while I was typing that I was gonna have to answer that question. And its a good question too. But I dont remember the answer off-hand. :-/ But we (my Perl developer) did create a very similar routine in Perl a few years back for a custom file-transfer back-end for an FTP site at a previous employer. Amusingly it was a couple of years before I became actively interested in Perl myself - so I didnt pay much attention to the details at the time. I'll see if I cant dig something up. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would the proper Win32 modules be? ...Tim -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules. It can detect file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop backup. His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop. Does anyone knows of any application can do this? Thanks. Best Regards, Wei Yu Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes? Yahoo! Movies is all you need -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Desktop Backup Con't
Thanks - it probably will! On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's going to have to be something that registers the NT FileChanged event. If that helps. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't I'm still looking back at my notes. A basic search via Google shows a few different modules that match the search perl module detect file changes, but I am still trying to find information on the module that I/we specifically used. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I'm just starting to play with perl myself, and that seems like it could be an interesting project to play with. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't Dammit - I knew while I was typing that I was gonna have to answer that question. And its a good question too. But I dont remember the answer off-hand. :-/ But we (my Perl developer) did create a very similar routine in Perl a few years back for a custom file-transfer back-end for an FTP site at a previous employer. Amusingly it was a couple of years before I became actively interested in Perl myself - so I didnt pay much attention to the details at the time. I'll see if I cant dig something up. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would the proper Win32 modules be? ...Tim -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules. It can detect file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop backup. His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop. Does anyone knows of any application can do this? Thanks. Best Regards, Wei Yu Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes? Yahoo! Movies is all you need -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Changing the logon screen saver
Hello all... I have a custom screen saver deployed by Group Policy that works fine when users are logged in. Is there a way using group policy to change to the custom screen saver when users are logged out? The environment is W3K3 AD, XP clients. Thanks for any help/advice. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~image001.gif
RE: Changing the logon screen saver
Background screen or screensaver? Cant remember the background screen key off the top of my head but you can do it.. as for screensaver try this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314493 Greg From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 6:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Changing the logon screen saver Hello all... I have a custom screen saver deployed by Group Policy that works fine when users are logged in. Is there a way using group policy to change to the custom screen saver when users are logged out? The environment is W3K3 AD, XP clients. Thanks for any help/advice. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 [cid:image001.gif@01C8B26D.3D092CD0] NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~inline: image001.gif
RE: Changing the logon screen saver
Thanks, Greg. I'm trying to change the login screen saver (as opposed to the regular one that comes up after users are logged in) to a custom one. I had seen that KB and actually used it to configure one PC as a test which worked fine. Now I would like to deploy those setting throughout the domain via GP and I've been unable to figure out how to do that. Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Changing the logon screen saver Background screen or screensaver? Cant remember the background screen key off the top of my head but you can do it.. as for screensaver try this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314493 Greg From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 6:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Changing the logon screen saver Hello all... I have a custom screen saver deployed by Group Policy that works fine when users are logged in. Is there a way using group policy to change to the custom screen saver when users are logged out? The environment is W3K3 AD, XP clients. Thanks for any help/advice. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~image001.gif
Re: Changing the logon screen saver
You will likely need to create a custom .adm file to import your registry changes into Group Policy. REG2ADM.EXE will help you do this. File deployments of .scr files, etc, will need to be done with custom .msi packages or perhaps computer startup scripts. Actually, it may be easier to just deploy everything via a custom. msi package in one shot. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Bill Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Greg. I'm trying to change the login screen saver (as opposed to the regular one that comes up after users are logged in) to a custom one. I had seen that KB and actually used it to configure one PC as a test which worked fine. Now I would like to deploy those setting throughout the domain via GP and I've been unable to figure out how to do that. Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Changing the logon screen saver Background screen or screensaver? Cant remember the background screen key off the top of my head but you can do it.. as for screensaver try this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314493 Greg From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 6:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Changing the logon screen saver Hello all… I have a custom screen saver deployed by Group Policy that works fine when users are logged in. Is there a way using group policy to change to the custom screen saver when users are logged out? The environment is W3K3 AD, XP clients. Thanks for any help/advice. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Changing the logon screen saver
What he said... I'd use reg2adm -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 7:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Changing the logon screen saver You will likely need to create a custom .adm file to import your registry changes into Group Policy. REG2ADM.EXE will help you do this. File deployments of .scr files, etc, will need to be done with custom .msi packages or perhaps computer startup scripts. Actually, it may be easier to just deploy everything via a custom. msi package in one shot. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Bill Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Greg. I'm trying to change the login screen saver (as opposed to the regular one that comes up after users are logged in) to a custom one. I had seen that KB and actually used it to configure one PC as a test which worked fine. Now I would like to deploy those setting throughout the domain via GP and I've been unable to figure out how to do that. Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Changing the logon screen saver Background screen or screensaver? Cant remember the background screen key off the top of my head but you can do it.. as for screensaver try this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314493 Greg From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 6:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Changing the logon screen saver Hello all... I have a custom screen saver deployed by Group Policy that works fine when users are logged in. Is there a way using group policy to change to the custom screen saver when users are logged out? The environment is W3K3 AD, XP clients. Thanks for any help/advice. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Changing the logon screen saver
Cool..thanks you guys Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Changing the logon screen saver What he said... I'd use reg2adm -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 7:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Changing the logon screen saver You will likely need to create a custom .adm file to import your registry changes into Group Policy. REG2ADM.EXE will help you do this. File deployments of .scr files, etc, will need to be done with custom .msi packages or perhaps computer startup scripts. Actually, it may be easier to just deploy everything via a custom. msi package in one shot. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Bill Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Greg. I'm trying to change the login screen saver (as opposed to the regular one that comes up after users are logged in) to a custom one. I had seen that KB and actually used it to configure one PC as a test which worked fine. Now I would like to deploy those setting throughout the domain via GP and I've been unable to figure out how to do that. Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Changing the logon screen saver Background screen or screensaver? Cant remember the background screen key off the top of my head but you can do it.. as for screensaver try this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314493 Greg From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 6:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Changing the logon screen saver Hello all... I have a custom screen saver deployed by Group Policy that works fine when users are logged in. Is there a way using group policy to change to the custom screen saver when users are logged out? The environment is W3K3 AD, XP clients. Thanks for any help/advice. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Virtualization on Server 2008
There are some issues with virtualising DCs (e.g. you ever restore them from a snapshot) due to USN-rollback - something to consider. Making the host OS part of the domain can assist with management (e.g. you can manage it using System Center Virtual machine Manager 2008), but you'd then need DCs for that domain somewhere else (it can be problematic attempting to do something on the host if your only DCs are virtualised on that host, and you can't get the DCs started for some reason). Exchange 2007 has significantly higher resource requirements than Exchange 2003 (as well as new role separation). Something else to consider. If you can get yourself a cluster + SAN, then my opinion is that you'd have a lot more options in terms of reducing downtime etc, as Hyper-V virtual machines are a clusterable resource Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 4:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Virtualization on Server 2008 I mentioned in another thread that this summer I'm looking at migrating our first servers from Server 2003 to Server 2008, migrating from Exchange 2003 to 2007, and consolidating a couple of servers. Good times. I want to make use of server virtualization, which I've never played with before. My vision is to have a big central server for our organization that runs Exchange, our web sites, and handles FSMO roles in separate VMs. Any thoughts/input/caveats on this idea? We're a small organization--around 550 users. We currently have Exchange and our web sites running on the same physical server with no problems, and that server is 5 years old. It has more than enough horse power to handle these tasks, but is reaching the end of its life. Maybe there's no need to separate things into different VMs. I know that in the past, it wasn't considered a best practice to run Exchange on a DC. That's why I was looking at putting Exchange in its own VM, and then having a separate VM that is a DC and handles FSMO roles. But then, is there a need to put the DC and FSMO roles in its own VM vs. just being handled by the host OS? And my reason for running IIS in its own VM was for security--if some sort of exploit allows IIS to be hacked, the hacker would be isolated from other functions of the server. But maybe that's paranoia; I know IIS's and Windows' security have improved quite a bit from back when I first started cutting my teeth. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
