Re: Server Monitor: M$ SCOM or Servers Alive???

[James Rankin]

Most SCOM/MOM implementations I've done involve disabling quite a few of the
alerts. No-one could accuse it of not providing enough monitoring
information. You will also find that it generally picks out a few issues in
your environment that you didn't know existed.

2008/5/20 Stephen Wimberly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I've not downloaded the trial yet, so forgive my ignorance when I ask:
>
> One of the main points of interest is just how granular the monitoring is,
> for example we rely very heavily on domain DFS with replication.  Recently
> the File Replication Service failed and within a few hours we had issues
> with critical processes.
>
> SA: can monitor the service and let us know if it stops running.
>
> CAN SCOM monitor different aspects that affect the service, like is it
> running into other errors, is disk space getting low, is the staging area
> getting full "too regularly", in other words can SCOM provide that "warm
> and
> fuzzy" feeling that the service is actually working like it should.
>
> ==
>
> Stephen Wimberly
>
> ==
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rankin, James R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:05 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Server Monitor: M$ SCOM or Servers Alive???
>
> We are also a non-profit and with the discounts available we ended up going
> for SCOM rather than Servers Alive or other cheaper options. We use Citrix,
> VMWare and AppSense amongst other software and it was vital for us to be
> able to monitor these from one console, which the MPs make very
> straightforward. Personally I was going to use SCE, but we have VMWare
> Update Manager which takes care of the WSUS stuff so we ended up going for
> the full version of SCOM 2007.
>
> Having said that, configuring SCOM is a bit of a pain if you haven't used
> any of the previous incarnations.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 19 May 2008 12:44
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Server Monitor: M$ SCOM or Servers Alive???
>
> I use Servers alive, to monitor about 250+ servers right now. All you need
> is time to set it up, but most of the time it will tell me whatever I want
> to know.
>
> And it's a hell of a lot cheaper than SCOM.
>
> Z
>
> Edward E. Ziots
> Network Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
> Phone: 401-639-3505
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:26 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Server Monitor: M$ SCOM or Servers Alive???
>
> We are looking into Server monitoring with the ability to notify us when
> certain services or applications fail.  I have used Servers Alive before,
> it's inexpensive and fairly easy to configure.  Although at the nonprofit
> higher educational institution I am at we get many Microsoft products at a
> severe discount.  Talking with our software sales rep he is pushing me to
> consider the System Center Suite, which includes System Center Operations
> Manager for both server and critical workstation monitoring.
>
> Anyone like to comment on the benefit of System Center Operations Manager
> over Servers Alive for service and application monitoring and alerting???
>  -
> THANKS!
>
> The full Suite he's pushing includes:
> System Center Configuration Manager 2007 (we will do this either way)
> System
> Center Data Protection Manager 2007 (Would be a nice add on) System Center
> Operations Manager 2007 System Center Virtual Machine Manager (we have no
> current use for this)
>
>
>
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Re: R: Adding groups as members of groups

[Rubens Almeida]

Please forgive my tired brain, it's 4AM over here :)
But if you know of an existent group that's included on all folders'
ACL then your idea will work. Otherwise I don't see how to do that
without adding a new entry to the current permissions list on all the
folders tree. Another utility that comes in mind is admnalow.exe but
it's a little more intrusive. Hope that helps.

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R: Adding groups as members of groups

[HELP_PC]

 



 
My intention was to add , at the original domain,a member to an already 
existent security group.
I:e: if FolderX is accessible by security group Quality in the internal domain 
and I add as member of Quality the security group ODQuality of the trusted 
domain,I shouldn't touch permissions on the folder .
 



Da: Rubens Almeida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: mer 21/05/2008 9.28
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Re: R: Adding groups as members of groups



Please forgive my tired brain, it's 4AM over here :)
But if you know of an existent group that's included on all folders'
ACL then your idea will work. Otherwise I don't see how to do that
without adding a new entry to the current permissions list on all the
folders tree. Another utility that comes in mind is admnalow.exe but
it's a little more intrusive. Hope that helps.

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Remote Control Application

[tom lohrmann]

I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their network that 
has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be able to gain access 
of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or my home to access that 
application periodically during the week without any user intervention on their 
side.

We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a meeting 
and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they don't like it.

Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution?
Thanks




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Re: [Robo]copy performance issue

[Joe Fox]

I wouldn't be too ashamed...happens to the best of us. :)

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm terribly ashamed of myself for not thinking of it myself, but you
> guys were of course right that it was a duplex issue on the port.
>
> Thanks for the nudge!
>
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> ME2
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RE: [OT] Logmein

[Ziots, Edward]

Enexity Securelink. 

http://www.enexity.com/

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

You've mentioned above that you're using something else.  What are you
using? 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

Sorry the short and skinny. 

Logmein loaded on PC's for some silly reason to support a project they
didn't think about a secure remote access solution to be in place. Some
dumb tech from support company started a scan against internal systems
which tripped off some syslogs and what not on internal systems, and
IPS/IDS. 

Basically Logmein is going bye bye never to return, it should have never
been implemented in the first place. 

Another PITA RAS out the door. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

Those pain meds are kicking in Z Not sure that was English. 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

I have seen weird things from Logmein in which systems with that one it
are initiating communications against internal systems they shouldn't be
touching, therefore logmein is going bye bye. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT] Logmein

Has anyone had problems with Logmein lately? I've had problems via
diseparate systems this last week...

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 




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RE: Remote Control Application

[Campbell, Dick]

If the PC is Windows XP, enable the remote access feature, and log in
remotely.

 

-Original Message-
From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote Control Application

 

I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or
my home to access that application periodically during the week without
any user intervention on their side.   

 

We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they
don't like it. 

 

Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Adding groups as members of groups

[Ken Schaefer]

Yes, that should work

But this is the reason to avoid directly adding groups to resources.

Users -> Authorization Groups (e.g. based on teams, projects etc) -> Resource 
Groups -> Resources

You add the Resource Groups to the ACLs on resources
You add the Authorization Groups to the Resource groups (e.g. Finance Dept 
needs access to "Printer X")

Since all the RGs are already defined, all you need to do in this situation is 
add an appropriate AG to your existing defined RGs.

RGs can be Domain Local
AGs can be Global (or Universal if you want)

There's an excellent set of pages on the Microsoft TechNet website that cover 
this.

Cheers
Ken

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 3:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Adding groups as members of groups


I have a customer with a folder in a fileserver (SBS env transitioned to 
Win2k3) with many different security groups permissions on various subfolder. 
Now I have to add some security groups from a trusted domain.

I want to avoid to visit all the folders and I thought to add the 
trusteddomain\securitygroup as member of originaldomain\securitygroup.

I made all groups in both domains as Universal
Should I have any problem ?

TIA

GuidoElia
HELPPC




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RE: [OT] Logmein

[Ziots, Edward]

Yeah I wish I could do that here, using a HIDS package on the
workstations, and keeping the services, etc al locked down on the
servers with scripts, security templates. Would be a little too much
overhead to start enabling the firewall functions on the servers, and
then trying to manage 600+ via GPO's and make sure that everyones
applications are still talking. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

Well OK...I use GPO's and utilize the OS firewalls of XP / 2K3 servers,
so very few ports on my systems can talk to very few ports on other
systems. Run the security configuration wizard and it locks down all
sorts of stuff. Your needs are different than mine, however, I don't
need to completely sandbox anyone, etc.

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 




-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

That might be true, but to me if I am not in full control of the
remote-access solution and it isn't secured, along with configurable (
additional ways to sandbox users to there own systems, and employ
firewalls to stop them talking with other systems, and best of all its
all logged where I retain the logs, then I really don't want to consider
the RAS solution. What we have now does all that pretty nicely. 

Sorry I am a little partial on using 3rd party hosted RAS solutions to
access systems via internet, you just asking for trouble. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

It sounds like it's not Logmein, is the company who implemented it also
had other stuff on the Logmein systems. I had Lockheed come in and do a
vulnerability & PEN test one of my IT Garage client sites, I have
Logmein on three servers..they found nothing unusual, my only big hit
was a Win98 box on the same wire as the rest of the 2K / XP / 2K3
systems.

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

It wasn't a server it was a workstation, and we caught scans coming from
those machines (via SNMP and other protocols) which wasn't normal, and
traced it back to the PC's with logmein on them. Plus the solution is
managed by a third party and not all that secure. So it means out with
that solution and in with something we control and is secure ( which we
already own)

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

Yeah, I didn't quite understand that either... 

-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

Can you clarify what you mean? The server with Logmein is trying to talk
to systems it shouldn't be?

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

I have seen weird things from Logmein in which systems with that one it
are initiating communications against internal systems they shouldn't be
touching, therefore logmein is going bye bye. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT] Logmein

Has anyone had problems with Logmein lately? I've had problems via
diseparate systems this last week...

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 




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RE: [OT] Logmein

[Ziots, Edward]

http://www.enexity.com/

Enexity SecureLink, 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

Hi ed,

Just out of curiosity which product do you use?


Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: "Ziots, Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: 5/20/08 4:49 PM
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

That might be true, but to me if I am not in full control of the
remote-access solution and it isn't secured, along with configurable (
additional ways to sandbox users to there own systems, and employ
firewalls to stop them talking with other systems, and best of all its
all logged where I retain the logs, then I really don't want to consider
the RAS solution. What we have now does all that pretty nicely. 

Sorry I am a little partial on using 3rd party hosted RAS solutions to
access systems via internet, you just asking for trouble. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

It sounds like it's not Logmein, is the company who implemented it also
had other stuff on the Logmein systems. I had Lockheed come in and do a
vulnerability & PEN test one of my IT Garage client sites, I have
Logmein on three servers..they found nothing unusual, my only big hit
was a Win98 box on the same wire as the rest of the 2K / XP / 2K3
systems.

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

It wasn't a server it was a workstation, and we caught scans coming from
those machines (via SNMP and other protocols) which wasn't normal, and
traced it back to the PC's with logmein on them. Plus the solution is
managed by a third party and not all that secure. So it means out with
that solution and in with something we control and is secure ( which we
already own)

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

Yeah, I didn't quite understand that either... 

-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

Can you clarify what you mean? The server with Logmein is trying to talk
to systems it shouldn't be?

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Logmein

I have seen weird things from Logmein in which systems with that one it
are initiating communications against internal systems they shouldn't be
touching, therefore logmein is going bye bye. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT] Logmein

Has anyone had problems with Logmein lately? I've had problems via
diseparate systems this last week...

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 




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Re: VM Mailing Lists?

[Kevin Lundy]

Rod - from the brief description on the web page, that list sounds like it
is primarily discussion of MS virtualization?

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.myitforum.com/lists/#Virtualization
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Craig Gauss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:39 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: VM Mailing Lists?
>
> We just recently implemented VM and a SAN.  Are there any lists like
> this dealing with VM that anyone could recommend?
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RE: Remote Control Application

[Jon B. Lewis]

I've been having good luck with express.gotoassist.com (you'd need to
make it an unattended support computer) after it was recommended to me
on this list recently.  Iremotepc.com should work for this as well.  It
comes with a $5/month price tag but it worked well in my situation.

 

Jon Lewis

 

From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote Control Application

 

I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or
my home to access that application periodically during the week without
any user intervention on their side.   

 

We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they
don't like it. 

 

Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Remote Control Application

[RITA KAUR]

- Original Message 
From: tom lohrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:24:07 AM
Subject: Remote Control Application


I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their network that 
has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be able to gain access 
of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or my home to access that 
application periodically during the week without any user intervention on their 
side.   
 
We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a meeting 
and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they don't like it. 
 
Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 
Thanks
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RE: Adding groups as members of groups

[HELP_PC]

 
Thank you
What I have to do is moving users to the trusted domain but leaving them using 
their folders in the local domain.
so I thought that adding to the various security groups the corrispondent 
security group in the trusted domain should work.
I.e. SG Quality has user1,user2,user3... and  \trusteddomain\quality as members
As I stated I made all SGs as Universal 



Da: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: mer 21/05/2008 14.05
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Adding groups as members of groups



Yes, that should work

 

But this is the reason to avoid directly adding groups to resources.

 

Users -> Authorization Groups (e.g. based on teams, projects etc) -> Resource 
Groups -> Resources

 

You add the Resource Groups to the ACLs on resources

You add the Authorization Groups to the Resource groups (e.g. Finance Dept 
needs access to "Printer X")

 

Since all the RGs are already defined, all you need to do in this situation is 
add an appropriate AG to your existing defined RGs.

 

RGs can be Domain Local

AGs can be Global (or Universal if you want)

 

There's an excellent set of pages on the Microsoft TechNet website that cover 
this.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 3:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Adding groups as members of groups

 

I have a customer with a folder in a fileserver (SBS env transitioned to 
Win2k3) with many different security groups permissions on various subfolder. 
Now I have to add some security groups from a trusted domain.

I want to avoid to visit all the folders and I thought to add the 
trusteddomain\securitygroup as member of originaldomain\securitygroup.

I made all groups in both domains as Universal 
Should I have any problem ? 

TIA 

GuidoElia 
HELPPC 

 

 



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Issues with VISIO 2000

[RITA KAUR]

FY1 
I have an urgent issue with visio , i am using an exisiting network template 
made by someone who is no longer wth company.
i have modified the templates and when i print the network template his name 
apears at the bottom saying created by him.
Is there anyway to get rid of his name..please 
helpw
regards
Manpreet 
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RE: VM Mailing Lists?

[Rod Trent]

I really need to update that, as it covers much more.

 

From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VM Mailing Lists?

 

Rod - from the brief description on the web page, that list sounds like it
is primarily discussion of MS virtualization?

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://www.myitforum.com/lists/#Virtualization


-Original Message-
From: Craig Gauss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VM Mailing Lists?

We just recently implemented VM and a SAN.  Are there any lists like
this dealing with VM that anyone could recommend?

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Re: Issues with VISIO 2000

[RITA KAUR]

issue resolved thanks for all ur help


- Original Message 
From: RITA KAUR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:35:36 AM
Subject: Issues with VISIO 2000


FY1 
 
I have an urgent issue with visio , i am using an exisiting network template 
made by someone who is no longer wth company.
i have modified the templates and when i print the network template his name 
apears at the bottom saying created by him.
 
Is there anyway to get rid of his name..please 
helpw
 
regards
 
Manpreet 

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RE: Remote Control Application

[David Mazzaccaro]

UltraVNC

 



From: Campbell, Dick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

 

If the PC is Windows XP, enable the remote access feature, and log in
remotely.

 

-Original Message-
From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote Control Application

 

I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or
my home to access that application periodically during the week without
any user intervention on their side.   

 

We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they
don't like it. 

 

Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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computer problem

[DAVID SMITH]

I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds like the 
processor is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you look at the task 
manager it has a program about 99%.  If you add more memory will it fix the 
problem.
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Re: Remote Control Application

[James Rankin]

If RDP is no good, try Remotely Anywhere (http://www.remotelyanywhere.com/)

I use this on my PC at home and I have never had any problems with it

2008/5/21 tom lohrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their network
> that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be able to gain
> access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or my home to
> access that application periodically during the week without any user
> intervention on their side.
>
> We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
> meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they
> don't like it.
>
> Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution?
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: computer problem

[NTSysAdmin]

Processors don't make noises..

-Original Message-
From: DAVID SMITH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: computer problem

I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds like the 
processor is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you look at the task 
manager it has a program about 99%.  If you add more memory will it fix the 
problem.
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Re: computer problem

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 9:09 AM, DAVID SMITH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds like the 
> processor
> is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you look at the task manager it 
> has a program
>  about 99%.  If you add more memory will it fix the problem.

  Probably not.

  That's not a very informative answer, of course, but your question
isn't very informative, either.  We're not psychic.  Give us
information to work with.  Like, maybe, oh, I dunno, the model of
computer, existing specs, OS and version, program name, etc...

-- Ben

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Re: computer problem

[Michael . Leone]

"DAVID SMITH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/21/2008 09:09:22 AM:

> I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds 
> like the processor is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you
> look at the task manager it has a program about 99%.  If you add 
> more memory will it fix the problem.

Processors themselves don't make noise. Is it the CPU fan? Check to see if 
the PCU fan is running, or dirty with dust and running harder because of 
heating.

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Re: computer problem

[John Cook]

Probably the hamsters!

- Original Message -
From: DAVID SMITH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed May 21 09:09:22 2008
Subject: computer problem

I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds like the 
processor is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you look at the task 
manager it has a program about 99%.  If you add more memory will it fix the 
problem.
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RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

[David Mazzaccaro]

Thanks for the reply.
I have the following results when I search for mstsc.exe:
mstsc.exe C:\windows\$ntservicepackuninstall$  (398KB)
mstsc.exe-39B7CECA.pf C:\windows\Prefetch (67KB)
mstsc.exe C:\Windows\system32 (662KB)
lhmstsc.exe C:\Windows\servicepackfiles\i386 (662KB)
mstsc.exe.mui C:\windows\system32\en-US (48KB)



-Original Message-
From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

I would look to see how many different mstsc.exe's can be found on the
C:
drive of this computer.

Bet there's more than one... and you're using a different one depending
on
who you are at the time.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Additionally...
If I am logged into my computer as myself, and "runas" mstsc as a domain
admin - it works fine.


-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Here's an update...
If I log on to my computer as the domain admin, mstsc.exe works
perfectly and allows me to connect to other machines.
If I log on with my domain account, DEP stops the application, and after
I close that, I get mstsc.exe caused an error and needs to close.
I set my "local administrators" group to include "authenticated users" -
thus making my domain account a local admin on the machine when I log
in.
Strange.


-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

I thought the MUI caused xpsp3 setup to throw an error and abort and the
issue was with one of the pre-release candidates, 6.1 some thing or
other,  but my recollection could be fuzzy. 

The article you cited seems to confirm what I read in the release notes,
since the OP indicate he got it installed, I thought of the other issue-

Windows XP SP3 cannot be installed if you have the following updates
installed on your computer:
* Microsoft Shared Computer Toolkit 
* Remote Desktop Connection (RDP) 6.0 MUI pack (Update 925877 for
Windows XP)

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Free, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recall a KB or readme somewhere mention if you had upgraded the
stock XP
> RDP client to one of the newer versions, IE- RDP 6.0, you had to
remove it
> prior to installing XPSP3.

  As I understand it, it isn't the main MSTSC 6.0 update that got
pushed out to everyone via Windows Update that's the problem, but the
"Multilingual User Interface" pack (MSKB 925877).  See MSKB 950717 for
the official word.

-- Ben

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RE: Remote Control Application

[Edwards, David]

Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote locations
to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
etc. enabled. 

 

Regards, 

Dave



From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote Control Application

 

I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or
my home to access that application periodically during the week without
any user intervention on their side.   

 

We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they
don't like it. 

 

Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Remote Control Application

[Eric Wittersheim]

Logmein works very well for this.

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 6:24 AM, tom lohrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their network
> that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be able to gain
> access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or my home to
> access that application periodically during the week without any user
> intervention on their side.
>
> We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
> meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they
> don't like it.
>
> Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution?
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Remote Control Application

[David Mazzaccaro]

Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
remote computer always has to initiate the connection?

As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without
the end user being there.

 

 



From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

 

Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote locations
to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
etc. enabled. 

 

Regards, 

Dave



From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote Control Application

 

I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or
my home to access that application periodically during the week without
any user intervention on their side.   

 

We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they
don't like it. 

 

Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Remote Control Application

[Jon Harris]

Remote Assistance yes that is correct.  Remote Desktop that is not correct.

Jon

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 9:48 AM, David Mazzaccaro <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
> remote computer always has to initiate the connection?
>
> As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without the
> end user being there.
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Remote Control Application
>
>
>
> Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their network,
> RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote locations to access my
> work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make sure the remote
> computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode, etc. enabled.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave
>  --
>
> *From:* tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Remote Control Application
>
>
>
> I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their network
> that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be able to gain
> access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or my home to
> access that application periodically during the week without any user
> intervention on their side.
>
>
>
> We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
> meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they
> don't like it.
>
>
>
> Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Remote Control Application

[Christopher Boggs]

With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.

 

With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that you
can offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I
know.

 



From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

 

Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
remote computer always has to initiate the connection?

As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without
the end user being there.

 

 



From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

 

Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote locations
to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
etc. enabled. 

 

Regards, 

Dave



From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote Control Application

 

I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or
my home to access that application periodically during the week without
any user intervention on their side.   

 

We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they
don't like it. 

 

Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Remote Control Application

[Edwards, David]

Remote Desktop does not require a user to confirm access. Remote
Assistance does. Both are available on XP. All that is required for
Remote Desktop is to be authorized. Local Administrators are by default
granted access if Remote Desktop is enabled. 

 

Regards, 

Dave



From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

 

Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
remote computer always has to initiate the connection?

As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without
the end user being there.

 

 



From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

 

Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote locations
to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
etc. enabled. 

 

Regards, 

Dave



From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote Control Application

 

I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or
my home to access that application periodically during the week without
any user intervention on their side.   

 

We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they
don't like it. 

 

Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Remote Control Application

[David Mazzaccaro]

That's what I thought.

I like (with VNC) being able to control the user's desktop without them
having to do any "offering, accepting, acknowledgement, etc".

Thanks.

 

 



From: Christopher Boggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

 

With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.

 

With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that you
can offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I
know.

 



From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

 

Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
remote computer always has to initiate the connection?

As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without
the end user being there.

 

 



From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

 

Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote locations
to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
etc. enabled. 

 

Regards, 

Dave



From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote Control Application

 

I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or
my home to access that application periodically during the week without
any user intervention on their side.   

 

We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they
don't like it. 

 

Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: computer problem

[Steve Ens]

Or perhaps the hamster wheel, since the hamster is running faster.

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:20 AM, John Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Probably the hamsters!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: DAVID SMITH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Sent: Wed May 21 09:09:22 2008
> Subject: computer problem
>
> I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds like the
> processor is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you look at the task
> manager it has a program about 99%.  If you add more memory will it fix the
> problem.
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RE: Defragmentation, Shadow copies and Server 2008

[Terry Dickson]

I can not give you a total answer but I have defragmented volumes that
have shadowcopy enabled and so far none of the shadowcopies have been
deleted that I have seen.  I have not specifically looked for them but I
will check on this and let you know.  This is on a Server 2003 Standard
server.



-Original Message-
From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Defragmentation, Shadow copies and Server 2008

I've read that defragmenting a partition with shadowcopy enabled causes
the shadowcopies to be deleted.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312067/en-us

I've also read stuff about the Vista defragmenter being shadowcopy aware

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942092

Does anyone know if the Server 2008 defragmenter is shadowcopy aware?

Thanks for your help.

Curt 

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Re: computer problem

[RichardMcClary]

Seriously now...  It could be disks whirring, swapping RAM contents to the 
virtual memory.  Installing more memory could help that one.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Steve Ens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/21/2008 08:59:27 AM:

> Or perhaps the hamster wheel, since the hamster is running faster.

> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:20 AM, John Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Probably the hamsters!
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: DAVID SMITH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Sent: Wed May 21 09:09:22 2008
> Subject: computer problem
> 
> I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds 
> like the processor is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you
> look at the task manager it has a program about 99%.  If you add 
> more memory will it fix the problem.
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RE: computer problem

[Christopher J. Bosak]

I'd still like to know what program is taking up 99% of the processor.
Memory won't help much if the CPU can't handle the load.

Christopher J. Bosak
Vector Company
c. 847.603.4673
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."
- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 09:19 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: computer problem

Seriously now...  It could be disks whirring, swapping RAM contents to the 
virtual memory.  Installing more memory could help that one.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Steve Ens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/21/2008 08:59:27 AM:

> Or perhaps the hamster wheel, since the hamster is running faster.

> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:20 AM, John Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Probably the hamsters!
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: DAVID SMITH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Sent: Wed May 21 09:09:22 2008
> Subject: computer problem
> 
> I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds 
> like the processor is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you
> look at the task manager it has a program about 99%.  If you add 
> more memory will it fix the problem.
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RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

[Christopher J. Bosak]

Just fixed this issue on my machine. 

http://www.castlecops.com/p1077579-windows_xp_remote_desktop_pre_release_ver
sion_expired.html

"Installing MSTSC 6.0 (Remote Desktop) on Windows XP SP1
(Works for this SP3 RC expired version too)

Since it is not officially supported, and the installer croaks under SP1,
I had to hack my way around it a bit, and discovered that the programmers
actually did
code the program, and even their installer to work under SP1 maybe even with
no SP,
but the installer package manager itself was doing the check for SP2 before
the actuall
program installer gets run...

I PROVIDE NO WARRANTY THAT THIS WILL NOT BREAK YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM,
EAT ALL YOUR POTATO CHIPS, OR DRINK YOUR BEER.

1. make a backup copy of mstsc.exe and mstscax.dll from your
windows\system32
put them somewhere safe (you can still run them separately after the 6.0
install)

2. delete mstsc.exe and mstscax.dll from your windows\system32 and
windows\system32\dllcache.
both files must be deleted from both locations very quickly, or the Windows
File Protection
will notice, and copy them back again.
You will get an warning window about unrecognized files, just click Cancel.

3. run the MSTSC6 installer for XP (downloaded from
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925876)
Watch closely to see where it is unpacking the files, usually the root
of some drive, with a really long directory name like
04d6787f2a5930bc357d631f3a.
When you get the error message about your SP level, DO NOT close the window!

4. Find the directory where it unpacked everything (EX:
C:\04d6787f2a5930bc357d631f3a)
If you can't find it, search all local drives for LHMSTSC.exe

5. Copy the directory SP2GDR to somewhere safe, like \temp.

6. Close the error message window. The really-long-named directory will be
deleted.

7. copy the single file from SP2GDR\ip to SP2GDR\

8. using Windows Explorer, from SP2GDR, right click on lhtsc.inf and select
Install.

TA DA!

You now have the ability to automatically share your drives,
or to copy and paste entire files, not just clipboard text."

Worked for me.

Christopher J. Bosak
Vector Company
c. 847.603.4673
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."
- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me


-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 08:27 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Thanks for the reply.
I have the following results when I search for mstsc.exe:
mstsc.exe C:\windows\$ntservicepackuninstall$  (398KB)
mstsc.exe-39B7CECA.pf C:\windows\Prefetch (67KB)
mstsc.exe C:\Windows\system32 (662KB)
lhmstsc.exe C:\Windows\servicepackfiles\i386 (662KB)
mstsc.exe.mui C:\windows\system32\en-US (48KB)



-Original Message-
From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

I would look to see how many different mstsc.exe's can be found on the
C:
drive of this computer.

Bet there's more than one... and you're using a different one depending
on
who you are at the time.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Additionally...
If I am logged into my computer as myself, and "runas" mstsc as a domain
admin - it works fine.


-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Here's an update...
If I log on to my computer as the domain admin, mstsc.exe works
perfectly and allows me to connect to other machines.
If I log on with my domain account, DEP stops the application, and after
I close that, I get mstsc.exe caused an error and needs to close.
I set my "local administrators" group to include "authenticated users" -
thus making my domain account a local admin on the machine when I log
in.
Strange.


-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

I thought the MUI caused xpsp3 setup to throw an error and abort and the
issue was with one of the pre-release candidates, 6.1 some thing or
other,  but my recollection could be fuzzy. 

The article you cited seems to confirm what I read in the release notes,
since the OP indicate he got it installed, I thought of the other issue-

Windows XP SP3 cannot be installed if you have the following updates
installed on your computer:
* Microsoft Shared Computer Toolkit 
* Remote Desktop Connection (RDP) 6.0 MUI pack (Update 925877 for
Windows XP)

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:13 P

RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

[Carl Houseman]

Looks like I was wrong... unless there's another hard drive besides C:
containing mstsc.exe.

Otherwise, it would appear that MS has delivered yet another app that's
incompatible with LUA principles at least on machines that do DEP in
hardware.  Don't have any hardware DEP machines running XP handy or I'd
double-check it for you. 

Carl

-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Thanks for the reply.
I have the following results when I search for mstsc.exe:
mstsc.exe C:\windows\$ntservicepackuninstall$  (398KB)
mstsc.exe-39B7CECA.pf C:\windows\Prefetch (67KB)
mstsc.exe C:\Windows\system32 (662KB)
lhmstsc.exe C:\Windows\servicepackfiles\i386 (662KB)
mstsc.exe.mui C:\windows\system32\en-US (48KB)



-Original Message-
From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

I would look to see how many different mstsc.exe's can be found on the
C:
drive of this computer.

Bet there's more than one... and you're using a different one depending
on
who you are at the time.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Additionally...
If I am logged into my computer as myself, and "runas" mstsc as a domain
admin - it works fine.


-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Here's an update...
If I log on to my computer as the domain admin, mstsc.exe works
perfectly and allows me to connect to other machines.
If I log on with my domain account, DEP stops the application, and after
I close that, I get mstsc.exe caused an error and needs to close.
I set my "local administrators" group to include "authenticated users" -
thus making my domain account a local admin on the machine when I log
in.
Strange.


-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

I thought the MUI caused xpsp3 setup to throw an error and abort and the
issue was with one of the pre-release candidates, 6.1 some thing or
other,  but my recollection could be fuzzy. 

The article you cited seems to confirm what I read in the release notes,
since the OP indicate he got it installed, I thought of the other issue-

Windows XP SP3 cannot be installed if you have the following updates
installed on your computer:
* Microsoft Shared Computer Toolkit 
* Remote Desktop Connection (RDP) 6.0 MUI pack (Update 925877 for
Windows XP)

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Free, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recall a KB or readme somewhere mention if you had upgraded the
stock XP
> RDP client to one of the newer versions, IE- RDP 6.0, you had to
remove it
> prior to installing XPSP3.

  As I understand it, it isn't the main MSTSC 6.0 update that got
pushed out to everyone via Windows Update that's the problem, but the
"Multilingual User Interface" pack (MSKB 925877).  See MSKB 950717 for
the official word.

-- Ben



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RE: computer problem

[Terry Dickson]

You are correct, but my first option would be to monitor it and see what
is using the CPU at the time to see why it is spiking?  Could it be an
antivirus spike as the antivirus solution is checking the file or files
as the app is launching.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: computer problem

Seriously now...  It could be disks whirring, swapping RAM contents to
the 
virtual memory.  Installing more memory could help that one.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Steve Ens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/21/2008 08:59:27 AM:

> Or perhaps the hamster wheel, since the hamster is running faster.

> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:20 AM, John Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Probably the hamsters!
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: DAVID SMITH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Sent: Wed May 21 09:09:22 2008
> Subject: computer problem
> 
> I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds 
> like the processor is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you
> look at the task manager it has a program about 99%.  If you add 
> more memory will it fix the problem.
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RE: computer problem

[RichardMcClary]

Based on my own (all too recent) experience, I'd guess it's either an 
"svchost" process or a rogue installer.  It's a shame he didn't say what 
"a program" meant...

Despite the gracious nature of our host and my general satisfaction with 
the product, CounterSpy and other security apps sometimes get hung this 
way.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Christopher J. Bosak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/21/2008 09:36:06 
AM:

> I'd still like to know what program is taking up 99% of the processor.
> Memory won't help much if the CPU can't handle the load.
> 
> Christopher J. Bosak
> Vector Company
> c. 847.603.4673
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."
> - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 09:19 hrs
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: computer problem
> 
> Seriously now...  It could be disks whirring, swapping RAM contents to 
the 
> virtual memory.  Installing more memory could help that one.
> --
> Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
> ASPCA Knowledge Management
> 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
> 217-337-9761
> http://www.aspca.org
> 
> 
> "Steve Ens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/21/2008 08:59:27 AM:
> 
> > Or perhaps the hamster wheel, since the hamster is running faster.
> 
> > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:20 AM, John Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Probably the hamsters!
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: DAVID SMITH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: NT System Admin Issues 
> > Sent: Wed May 21 09:09:22 2008
> > Subject: computer problem
> > 
> > I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds 
> > like the processor is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you
> > look at the task manager it has a program about 99%.  If you add 
> > more memory will it fix the problem.
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RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

[David Mazzaccaro]

Thanks for the replies... after further research, I found screwdrivers
v3 on my machine.  I uninstalled it, rebooted, and MSTSC.EXE runs
perfectly.
I think there is a new version (screwdrivers v4) that I will test.


-Original Message-
From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Looks like I was wrong... unless there's another hard drive besides C:
containing mstsc.exe.

Otherwise, it would appear that MS has delivered yet another app that's
incompatible with LUA principles at least on machines that do DEP in
hardware.  Don't have any hardware DEP machines running XP handy or I'd
double-check it for you. 

Carl

-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Thanks for the reply.
I have the following results when I search for mstsc.exe:
mstsc.exe C:\windows\$ntservicepackuninstall$  (398KB)
mstsc.exe-39B7CECA.pf C:\windows\Prefetch (67KB)
mstsc.exe C:\Windows\system32 (662KB)
lhmstsc.exe C:\Windows\servicepackfiles\i386 (662KB)
mstsc.exe.mui C:\windows\system32\en-US (48KB)



-Original Message-
From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

I would look to see how many different mstsc.exe's can be found on the
C:
drive of this computer.

Bet there's more than one... and you're using a different one depending
on
who you are at the time.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Additionally...
If I am logged into my computer as myself, and "runas" mstsc as a domain
admin - it works fine.


-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Here's an update...
If I log on to my computer as the domain admin, mstsc.exe works
perfectly and allows me to connect to other machines.
If I log on with my domain account, DEP stops the application, and after
I close that, I get mstsc.exe caused an error and needs to close.
I set my "local administrators" group to include "authenticated users" -
thus making my domain account a local admin on the machine when I log
in.
Strange.


-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

I thought the MUI caused xpsp3 setup to throw an error and abort and the
issue was with one of the pre-release candidates, 6.1 some thing or
other,  but my recollection could be fuzzy. 

The article you cited seems to confirm what I read in the release notes,
since the OP indicate he got it installed, I thought of the other issue-

Windows XP SP3 cannot be installed if you have the following updates
installed on your computer:
* Microsoft Shared Computer Toolkit 
* Remote Desktop Connection (RDP) 6.0 MUI pack (Update 925877 for
Windows XP)

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Free, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recall a KB or readme somewhere mention if you had upgraded the
stock XP
> RDP client to one of the newer versions, IE- RDP 6.0, you had to
remove it
> prior to installing XPSP3.

  As I understand it, it isn't the main MSTSC 6.0 update that got
pushed out to everyone via Windows Update that's the problem, but the
"Multilingual User Interface" pack (MSKB 925877).  See MSKB 950717 for
the official word.

-- Ben



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RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

[David Mazzaccaro]

Wow.  Thanks for the info.
After further research, I found Screwdrivers v3 on my machine.  
I uninstalled it, rebooted, and MSTSC.EXE runs perfectly.
I think there is a new version (screwdrivers v4) that I will test.
Thanks again for your input.


-Original Message-
From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Just fixed this issue on my machine. 

http://www.castlecops.com/p1077579-windows_xp_remote_desktop_pre_release
_ver
sion_expired.html

"Installing MSTSC 6.0 (Remote Desktop) on Windows XP SP1
(Works for this SP3 RC expired version too)

Since it is not officially supported, and the installer croaks under
SP1,
I had to hack my way around it a bit, and discovered that the
programmers
actually did
code the program, and even their installer to work under SP1 maybe even
with
no SP,
but the installer package manager itself was doing the check for SP2
before
the actuall
program installer gets run...

I PROVIDE NO WARRANTY THAT THIS WILL NOT BREAK YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM,
EAT ALL YOUR POTATO CHIPS, OR DRINK YOUR BEER.

1. make a backup copy of mstsc.exe and mstscax.dll from your
windows\system32
put them somewhere safe (you can still run them separately after the 6.0
install)

2. delete mstsc.exe and mstscax.dll from your windows\system32 and
windows\system32\dllcache.
both files must be deleted from both locations very quickly, or the
Windows
File Protection
will notice, and copy them back again.
You will get an warning window about unrecognized files, just click
Cancel.

3. run the MSTSC6 installer for XP (downloaded from
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925876)
Watch closely to see where it is unpacking the files, usually the root
of some drive, with a really long directory name like
04d6787f2a5930bc357d631f3a.
When you get the error message about your SP level, DO NOT close the
window!

4. Find the directory where it unpacked everything (EX:
C:\04d6787f2a5930bc357d631f3a)
If you can't find it, search all local drives for LHMSTSC.exe

5. Copy the directory SP2GDR to somewhere safe, like \temp.

6. Close the error message window. The really-long-named directory will
be
deleted.

7. copy the single file from SP2GDR\ip to SP2GDR\

8. using Windows Explorer, from SP2GDR, right click on lhtsc.inf and
select
Install.

TA DA!

You now have the ability to automatically share your drives,
or to copy and paste entire files, not just clipboard text."

Worked for me.

Christopher J. Bosak
Vector Company
c. 847.603.4673
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."
- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me


-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 08:27 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Thanks for the reply.
I have the following results when I search for mstsc.exe:
mstsc.exe C:\windows\$ntservicepackuninstall$  (398KB)
mstsc.exe-39B7CECA.pf C:\windows\Prefetch (67KB)
mstsc.exe C:\Windows\system32 (662KB)
lhmstsc.exe C:\Windows\servicepackfiles\i386 (662KB)
mstsc.exe.mui C:\windows\system32\en-US (48KB)



-Original Message-
From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

I would look to see how many different mstsc.exe's can be found on the
C:
drive of this computer.

Bet there's more than one... and you're using a different one depending
on
who you are at the time.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Additionally...
If I am logged into my computer as myself, and "runas" mstsc as a domain
admin - it works fine.


-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

Here's an update...
If I log on to my computer as the domain admin, mstsc.exe works
perfectly and allows me to connect to other machines.
If I log on with my domain account, DEP stops the application, and after
I close that, I get mstsc.exe caused an error and needs to close.
I set my "local administrators" group to include "authenticated users" -
thus making my domain account a local admin on the machine when I log
in.
Strange.


-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installed XP SP3 now Remote Desktop doesn't work

I thought the MUI caused xpsp3 setup to throw an error and abort and the
issue was with one of the pre-release candidates, 6.1 some thing or
other,  but my recollection could be fuzzy. 

The a

RE: computer problem

[David Lum]

What does a processor sound like? LOL. Don't you mean fan, or HDD?

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 



-Original Message-
From: DAVID SMITH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: computer problem

I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds like the 
processor is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you look at the task 
manager it has a program about 99%.  If you add more memory will it fix the 
problem.
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Re: computer problem

[Joe Fox]

Or it could just be a troll, and you all are feeding it.

Don't feed the trolls...

Joe

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:45 AM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What does a processor sound like? LOL. Don't you mean fan, or HDD?
>
> Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
> "When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands"
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: DAVID SMITH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: computer problem
>
> I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds like the
> processor is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you look at the task
> manager it has a program about 99%.  If you add more memory will it fix the
> problem.
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Re: [Robo]copy performance issue

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

lol, thanks :-)

I certainly wasn't implying anything to that effect - but things like
this have been reported to the list enough times that I should have
recognized that I was dealing with he same issue.

Above everything else, I'm suprised at the vendor that installed the
equipment - as they were specifically instructed to set full/100 on
the switch ports.  Which they did for *almost* all the ports.

So, not catching this myself was because I had too much faith in the
thoroughness of the vendor - and I should know better to not think
that mistakes cant/wont be made by anyone - including myself.


On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Joe Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wouldn't be too ashamed...happens to the best of us. :)
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm terribly ashamed of myself for not thinking of it myself, but you
>> guys were of course right that it was a duplex issue on the port.
>>
>> Thanks for the nudge!
>>
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RE: computer problem

[Christopher J. Bosak]

Reminds me of a sign at our office.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t227/viperborg/DSC00148.jpg

 

Christopher J. Bosak

Vector Company

c. 847.603.4673

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."

- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

 

From: Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 09:52 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: computer problem

 

Or it could just be a troll, and you all are feeding it.

Don't feed the trolls...

Joe

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:45 AM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What does a processor sound like? LOL. Don't you mean fan, or HDD?

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
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-Original Message-
From: DAVID SMITH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: computer problem

I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds like the
processor is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you look at the task
manager it has a program about 99%.  If you add more memory will it fix the
problem.
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RE: Remote Control Application

[Matthew W. Ross]

When I try to use Remote Control, it forces the remote machine's user to be 
locked/logged out while I take control... Is there a way to use Microsoft's 
built in RDP without forcing the online user off?

Also, does anybody have any good RDP/VNC "monitoring" programs? Something that 
will keep a list of machines, and make it easy for me to connect? I have seen 
VNCScan and tried VNC Neighborhood, which is okay, but I haven't seen one for 
Microsoft's Remote Control.

--Matt

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Boggs
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
07:00:20 -0700
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application


> With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.
> 
>  
> 
> With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that you
> can offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I
> know.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
> remote computer always has to initiate the connection?
> 
> As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without
> the end user being there.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
> network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote locations
> to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
> sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
> etc. enabled. 
> 
>  
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
> network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
> able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office or
> my home to access that application periodically during the week without
> any user intervention on their side.   
> 
>  
> 
> We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
> meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building they
> don't like it. 
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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RE: Remote Control Application

[David Mazzaccaro]

There is no such thing as "Microsoft's Remote Control".
There are 2 built in remote technologies:
"Remote Desktop" and "Remote Assistance"
Remote Desktop will require the remote machine's user to be logged out
while you take control.  With Remote Assistance the user has to
acknowledge that you are taking control of their "session" and you can
move their mouse around and send keystrokes.
HTH


-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

When I try to use Remote Control, it forces the remote machine's user to
be locked/logged out while I take control... Is there a way to use
Microsoft's built in RDP without forcing the online user off?

Also, does anybody have any good RDP/VNC "monitoring" programs?
Something that will keep a list of machines, and make it easy for me to
connect? I have seen VNCScan and tried VNC Neighborhood, which is okay,
but I haven't seen one for Microsoft's Remote Control.

--Matt

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Boggs
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
07:00:20 -0700
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application


> With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.
> 
>  
> 
> With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that you
> can offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I
> know.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
> remote computer always has to initiate the connection?
> 
> As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without
> the end user being there.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
> network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote
locations
> to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
> sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
> etc. enabled. 
> 
>  
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
> network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
> able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office
or
> my home to access that application periodically during the week
without
> any user intervention on their side.   
> 
>  
> 
> We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
> meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building
they
> don't like it. 
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Bayesian Filter detected spam - RE: Remote Control Application

[Robert Jackson]

You could try: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mremote/

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday May 2008 16:08
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Bayesian Filter detected spam - RE:
Remote Control Application

When I try to use Remote Control, it forces the remote machine's user to
be locked/logged out while I take control... Is there a way to use
Microsoft's built in RDP without forcing the online user off?

Also, does anybody have any good RDP/VNC "monitoring" programs?
Something that will keep a list of machines, and make it easy for me to
connect? I have seen VNCScan and tried VNC Neighborhood, which is okay,
but I haven't seen one for Microsoft's Remote Control.

--Matt

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Boggs
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
07:00:20 -0700
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application


> With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.
> 
>  
> 
> With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that you
> can offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I
> know.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
> remote computer always has to initiate the connection?
> 
> As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without
> the end user being there.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
> network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote
locations
> to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
> sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
> etc. enabled. 
> 
>  
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
> network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
> able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office
or
> my home to access that application periodically during the week
without
> any user intervention on their side.   
> 
>  
> 
> We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
> meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building
they
> don't like it. 
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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RE: Remote Control Application

[Matthew W. Ross]

Yup, you're right... I meant Remote Desktop. Caffeine is still kicking in for 
me this morning.

Back to the questions: Can you do Remote Desktop without logging the user out 
somehow? Just curious.

--Matt

- Original Message -
From: David Mazzaccaro
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
08:16:15 -0700
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application


> There is no such thing as "Microsoft's Remote Control".
> There are 2 built in remote technologies:
> "Remote Desktop" and "Remote Assistance"
> Remote Desktop will require the remote machine's user to be logged out
> while you take control.  With Remote Assistance the user has to
> acknowledge that you are taking control of their "session" and you can
> move their mouse around and send keystrokes.
> HTH
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:08 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
> When I try to use Remote Control, it forces the remote machine's user to
> be locked/logged out while I take control... Is there a way to use
> Microsoft's built in RDP without forcing the online user off?
> 
> Also, does anybody have any good RDP/VNC "monitoring" programs?
> Something that will keep a list of machines, and make it easy for me to
> connect? I have seen VNCScan and tried VNC Neighborhood, which is okay,
> but I haven't seen one for Microsoft's Remote Control.
> 
> --Matt
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher Boggs
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
> 07:00:20 -0700
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
> 
> > With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that you
> > can offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I
> > know.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
> > remote computer always has to initiate the connection?
> > 
> > As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without
> > the end user being there.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
> > network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote
> locations
> > to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
> > sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
> > etc. enabled. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Regards, 
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Remote Control Application
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
> > network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
> > able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office
> or
> > my home to access that application periodically during the week
> without
> > any user intervention on their side.   
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
> > meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building
> they
> > don't like it. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
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> 
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RE: Remote Control Application

[David Mazzaccaro]

No, you have to use "Remote Assistance" instead, or an alternative
application such as UltraVNC.


-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

Yup, you're right... I meant Remote Desktop. Caffeine is still kicking
in for me this morning.

Back to the questions: Can you do Remote Desktop without logging the
user out somehow? Just curious.

--Matt

- Original Message -
From: David Mazzaccaro
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
08:16:15 -0700
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application


> There is no such thing as "Microsoft's Remote Control".
> There are 2 built in remote technologies:
> "Remote Desktop" and "Remote Assistance"
> Remote Desktop will require the remote machine's user to be logged out
> while you take control.  With Remote Assistance the user has to
> acknowledge that you are taking control of their "session" and you can
> move their mouse around and send keystrokes.
> HTH
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:08 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
> When I try to use Remote Control, it forces the remote machine's user
to
> be locked/logged out while I take control... Is there a way to use
> Microsoft's built in RDP without forcing the online user off?
> 
> Also, does anybody have any good RDP/VNC "monitoring" programs?
> Something that will keep a list of machines, and make it easy for me
to
> connect? I have seen VNCScan and tried VNC Neighborhood, which is
okay,
> but I haven't seen one for Microsoft's Remote Control.
> 
> --Matt
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher Boggs
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
> 07:00:20 -0700
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
> 
> > With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that
you
> > can offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I
> > know.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
> > remote computer always has to initiate the connection?
> > 
> > As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or
without
> > the end user being there.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
> > network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote
> locations
> > to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS.
Make
> > sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
> > etc. enabled. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Regards, 
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Remote Control Application
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
> > network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to
be
> > able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my
office
> or
> > my home to access that application periodically during the week
> without
> > any user intervention on their side.   
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
> > meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building
> they
> > don't like it. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~
> > ~   ~
> 
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RE: Remote Control Application

[Carl Houseman]

No, you cant.

On the other RDP question:

http://code4ward.net/CS2/Default.aspx (Royal TS)

Previously mentioned RDP console/menu app, vRD from VisionApp, is no longer
free.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

Yup, you're right... I meant Remote Desktop. Caffeine is still kicking in
for me this morning.

Back to the questions: Can you do Remote Desktop without logging the user
out somehow? Just curious.

--Matt

- Original Message -
From: David Mazzaccaro
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
08:16:15 -0700
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application


> There is no such thing as "Microsoft's Remote Control".
> There are 2 built in remote technologies:
> "Remote Desktop" and "Remote Assistance"
> Remote Desktop will require the remote machine's user to be logged out
> while you take control.  With Remote Assistance the user has to
> acknowledge that you are taking control of their "session" and you can
> move their mouse around and send keystrokes.
> HTH
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:08 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
> When I try to use Remote Control, it forces the remote machine's user to
> be locked/logged out while I take control... Is there a way to use
> Microsoft's built in RDP without forcing the online user off?
> 
> Also, does anybody have any good RDP/VNC "monitoring" programs?
> Something that will keep a list of machines, and make it easy for me to
> connect? I have seen VNCScan and tried VNC Neighborhood, which is okay,
> but I haven't seen one for Microsoft's Remote Control.
> 
> --Matt
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher Boggs
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
> 07:00:20 -0700
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
> 
> > With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that you
> > can offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I
> > know.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
> > remote computer always has to initiate the connection?
> > 
> > As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without
> > the end user being there.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
> > network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote
> locations
> > to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
> > sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
> > etc. enabled. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Regards, 
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Remote Control Application
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
> > network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
> > able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office
> or
> > my home to access that application periodically during the week
> without
> > any user intervention on their side.   
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
> > meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building
> they
> > don't like it. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
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RE: Remote Control Application

[Mike French]

I use Dameware mini-remote www.dameware.com 
Works pretty good for us and is cheap...

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

When I try to use Remote Control, it forces the remote machine's user to
be locked/logged out while I take control... Is there a way to use
Microsoft's built in RDP without forcing the online user off?

Also, does anybody have any good RDP/VNC "monitoring" programs?
Something that will keep a list of machines, and make it easy for me to
connect? I have seen VNCScan and tried VNC Neighborhood, which is okay,
but I haven't seen one for Microsoft's Remote Control.

--Matt

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Boggs
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
07:00:20 -0700
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application


> With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.
> 
>  
> 
> With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that you
> can offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I
> know.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
> remote computer always has to initiate the connection?
> 
> As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without
> the end user being there.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
> network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote
locations
> to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
> sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
> etc. enabled. 
> 
>  
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
> network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
> able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office
or
> my home to access that application periodically during the week
without
> any user intervention on their side.   
> 
>  
> 
> We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
> meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building
they
> don't like it. 
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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RE: Remote Control Application

[Axcess Internet (ML Account)]

Matt:

Check out DameWare Mini Remote Control, http://www.dameware.com

We have been using it for years now and are very happy with it.

Regards,
Jim Restucci


-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 08:08
To: ML: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

When I try to use Remote Control, it forces the remote machine's user to
be locked/logged out while I take control... Is there a way to use
Microsoft's built in RDP without forcing the online user off?

Also, does anybody have any good RDP/VNC "monitoring" programs?
Something that will keep a list of machines, and make it easy for me to
connect? I have seen VNCScan and tried VNC Neighborhood, which is okay,
but I haven't seen one for Microsoft's Remote Control.

--Matt

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Boggs
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
07:00:20 -0700
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application


> With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.
> 
>  
> 
> With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that you
> can offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I
> know.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
> remote computer always has to initiate the connection?
> 
> As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without
> the end user being there.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
> network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote
locations
> to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
> sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
> etc. enabled. 
> 
>  
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
> network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
> able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office
or
> my home to access that application periodically during the week
without
> any user intervention on their side.   
> 
>  
> 
> We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
> meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building
they
> don't like it. 
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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Manual Refresh required on Network Shares

[Sam Cayze]

I think I saw this once on XP, but now it is happening on my Vista
machine, when working in Network Shares in a 2003 Domain (DFS Shares
only seem to be affected.  Other shares, like \\name\c$
  work fine)

 

If I create a new folder, it doesn't appear until I hit F5

If I drag a new file into the folder, it doesn't appear until I hit F5

 

It's starting to drive me crazy!  I have googled a little, seen a lot of
people have the same issues, but haven't found the culprit yet...

 

-Sam


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Re: Manual Refresh required on Network Shares

[Michael White]

I thought that was a Vista feature.

  If I create a new folder, it doesn't appear until I hit F5
>
> If I drag a new file into the folder, it doesn't appear until I hit F5
>

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Wierd problem with server

[Larry Rappaport]

Windows Server 2003.  5 workstations - 4 running Windows XP SP2, one 
running Windows 2000 with all service packs.


If one particular workstation is running (Windows XP sp2), everything is 
ok; if that workstation is NOT running, others cannot connect to network 
drives (including those on the server) saying that those drives are busy 
or not available.  All proper services are available and running on the 
workstations.  Any ideas?

--

Larry
rapp at lmr dot com

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Re: Wierd problem with server

[Matthew W. Ross]

Just a guess: WINS? The one machine that determines if things connect is the 
WINS master, and name resolution fails without it.

Troubleshooting: Try connecting via IP instead of name, or FQDN if available. 
If it does work via these methods, but not by the shortname, I'd bet it is WINS.

Solution: Install a WINS server on your 2003 box. Have the DHCP server 
designate your WINS server. Give it about an hour (Yes, it takes that long 
sometimes) and your problems should be over.

I hope that helps.

--Matt

- Original Message -
From: Larry Rappaport
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
09:18:43 -0700
Subject: Wierd problem with server


> Windows Server 2003.  5 workstations - 4 running Windows XP SP2, one 
> running Windows 2000 with all service packs.
> 
> If one particular workstation is running (Windows XP sp2), everything is 
> ok; if that workstation is NOT running, others cannot connect to network 
> drives (including those on the server) saying that those drives are busy 
> or not available.  All proper services are available and running on the 
> workstations.  Any ideas?
> -- 
> 
> Larry
> rapp at lmr dot com
> 
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RE: Wierd problem with server

[Bob Fronk]

Are you running DNS on your server?  Are your workstations pointing to the 
server or an outside DNS?

Sounds like the one workstation has become the master browser.

Look at your event logs on the server and workstations for a "browser war".

Google can help you with "master browser troubleshooting"

Bob Fronk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Rappaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Wierd problem with server
> 
> Windows Server 2003.  5 workstations - 4 running Windows XP SP2, one
> running Windows 2000 with all service packs.
> 
> If one particular workstation is running (Windows XP sp2), everything is
> ok; if that workstation is NOT running, others cannot connect to network
> drives (including those on the server) saying that those drives are busy
> or not available.  All proper services are available and running on the
> workstations.  Any ideas?
> --
> 
> Larry
> rapp at lmr dot com
> 
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RE: Wierd problem with server

[lists]

WINS?  Never use it. You don't need to either unless you have a specific
application that requires it. If so it would be an older application.  

Sounds like your WinXP workstation has designated itself the Master
Browser.   Is this a peer to peer network or an AD domain?   If DNS is
configured on your server and the workstations use the Win2003 server
for DNS resolution you won't have this problem.

Cheers.

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wierd problem with server

Just a guess: WINS? The one machine that determines if things connect is
the WINS master, and name resolution fails without it.

Troubleshooting: Try connecting via IP instead of name, or FQDN if
available. If it does work via these methods, but not by the shortname,
I'd bet it is WINS.

Solution: Install a WINS server on your 2003 box. Have the DHCP server
designate your WINS server. Give it about an hour (Yes, it takes that
long sometimes) and your problems should be over.

I hope that helps.

--Matt

- Original Message -
From: Larry Rappaport
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
09:18:43 -0700
Subject: Wierd problem with server


> Windows Server 2003.  5 workstations - 4 running Windows XP SP2, one 
> running Windows 2000 with all service packs.
> 
> If one particular workstation is running (Windows XP sp2), everything
is 
> ok; if that workstation is NOT running, others cannot connect to
network 
> drives (including those on the server) saying that those drives are
busy 
> or not available.  All proper services are available and running on
the 
> workstations.  Any ideas?
> -- 
> 
> Larry
> rapp at lmr dot com
> 
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RE: Manual Refresh required on Network Shares

[John Cook]

this maybe?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/445711/Enable-Folder-and-Icon-Refresh-Win-XP-Tweak
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Ph -  352-393-2741 x320
Fax - 352-393-2746
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, A+, N+


From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Manual Refresh required on Network Shares

I think I saw this once on XP, but now it is happening on my Vista machine, 
when working in Network Shares in a 2003 Domain (DFS Shares only seem to be 
affected.  Other shares, like \\name\c$ work fine)

If I create a new folder, it doesn’t appear until I hit F5
If I drag a new file into the folder, it doesn’t appear until I hit F5

It’s starting to drive me crazy!  I have googled a little, seen a lot of people 
have the same issues, but haven’t found the culprit yet...

-Sam







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RE: Wierd problem with server

[gsweers]

I have not found an environment yet that won't benefit from using WINS,
and its so minimal maintenance/overead why not?  Unless you are 2008,
Exch 2007 and Vista, I think Wins is applicable in any MS environment.  

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
lists
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wierd problem with server

WINS?  Never use it. You don't need to either unless you have a specific
application that requires it. If so it would be an older application.  

Sounds like your WinXP workstation has designated itself the Master
Browser.   Is this a peer to peer network or an AD domain?   If DNS is
configured on your server and the workstations use the Win2003 server
for DNS resolution you won't have this problem.

Cheers.

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wierd problem with server

Just a guess: WINS? The one machine that determines if things connect is
the WINS master, and name resolution fails without it.

Troubleshooting: Try connecting via IP instead of name, or FQDN if
available. If it does work via these methods, but not by the shortname,
I'd bet it is WINS.

Solution: Install a WINS server on your 2003 box. Have the DHCP server
designate your WINS server. Give it about an hour (Yes, it takes that
long sometimes) and your problems should be over.

I hope that helps.

--Matt

- Original Message -
From: Larry Rappaport
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
09:18:43 -0700
Subject: Wierd problem with server


> Windows Server 2003.  5 workstations - 4 running Windows XP SP2, one 
> running Windows 2000 with all service packs.
> 
> If one particular workstation is running (Windows XP sp2), everything
is 
> ok; if that workstation is NOT running, others cannot connect to
network 
> drives (including those on the server) saying that those drives are
busy 
> or not available.  All proper services are available and running on
the 
> workstations.  Any ideas?
> -- 
> 
> Larry
> rapp at lmr dot com
> 
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> 

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RE: Remote Control Application

[Christopher J. Bosak]

Have to agree. I've been using the entire DameWare NT Suite for quite some
time.

Christopher J. Bosak
Vector Company
c. 847.603.4673
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."
- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me


-Original Message-
From: Axcess Internet (ML Account) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:03 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

Matt:

Check out DameWare Mini Remote Control, http://www.dameware.com

We have been using it for years now and are very happy with it.

Regards,
Jim Restucci


-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 08:08
To: ML: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

When I try to use Remote Control, it forces the remote machine's user to
be locked/logged out while I take control... Is there a way to use
Microsoft's built in RDP without forcing the online user off?

Also, does anybody have any good RDP/VNC "monitoring" programs?
Something that will keep a list of machines, and make it easy for me to
connect? I have seen VNCScan and tried VNC Neighborhood, which is okay,
but I haven't seen one for Microsoft's Remote Control.

--Matt

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Boggs
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
07:00:20 -0700
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application


> With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.
> 
>  
> 
> With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that you
> can offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I
> know.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
> remote computer always has to initiate the connection?
> 
> As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without
> the end user being there.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
> network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote
locations
> to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
> sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
> etc. enabled. 
> 
>  
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
> network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
> able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office
or
> my home to access that application periodically during the week
without
> any user intervention on their side.   
> 
>  
> 
> We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
> meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building
they
> don't like it. 
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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Re: Wierd problem with server

[Larry Rappaport]

Matthew W. Ross wrote:

Just a guess: WINS? The one machine that determines if things connect is the 
WINS master, and name resolution fails without it.

Troubleshooting: Try connecting via IP instead of name, or FQDN if available. 
If it does work via these methods, but not by the shortname, I'd bet it is WINS.

Solution: Install a WINS server on your 2003 box. Have the DHCP server 
designate your WINS server. Give it about an hour (Yes, it takes that long 
sometimes) and your problems should be over.

I hope that helps.

--Matt


Thanks, Matt, the server is designated a WINS server although I don't 
believe anything uses it.  Maybe ECCO - that's an old app.  IAC, the 
WINS server, DHCP server are both running on the same box - all the same 
- 192.168.0.1 - which is the address of the server.


--

Larry
rapp at lmr dot com

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Ideas needed, maybe Radius server, maybe...

[Reimer, Mark]

Hi folks,
 
Here's the situation, sorry for the long post.
 
There are a number of students using wireless in our dorms, about 350 of
them. This past year, I had a little Linux router (read old PC) that
could block by MAC address, and that was what I used to allow access to
the internet.
 
Now we want to have some sort of username/password. The students all get
accounts on our Windows 2003 domain, mostly for checking their email
which are on our servers. We would like to use these accounts for
authentication from their wireless connections.
 
If I read the docs correctly, Windows 2003 standard will allow for 50
Radius clients. I don't have any Windows 2003 Enterprise or DataCenter
licenses (which allow unlimited Radius clients), and getting an
Enterprise or Data Center license is out of the question.
 
I don't have any managed switches, and basically no routers (except for
the little one mentioned above, and our firewall). The current wireless
access points are a hodge podge of makes, most of which can talk with a
radius server, but I think I do have one or two that can not.
 
I'm not familiar with Linux, but I can learn it if that will solve my
problem.
 
Any other ideas I might be missing?
 
Thanks.
 
Mark
 
 

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Re: Wierd problem with server

[Sean Martin]

Disable the computer browser service on all of your PCs and call it a day.

- Sean


On 5/21/08, Larry Rappaport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Matthew W. Ross wrote:
>
>> Just a guess: WINS? The one machine that determines if things connect is
>> the WINS master, and name resolution fails without it.
>>
>> Troubleshooting: Try connecting via IP instead of name, or FQDN if
>> available. If it does work via these methods, but not by the shortname, I'd
>> bet it is WINS.
>>
>> Solution: Install a WINS server on your 2003 box. Have the DHCP server
>> designate your WINS server. Give it about an hour (Yes, it takes that long
>> sometimes) and your problems should be over.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>> --Matt
>>
>
> Thanks, Matt, the server is designated a WINS server although I don't
> believe anything uses it.  Maybe ECCO - that's an old app.  IAC, the WINS
> server, DHCP server are both running on the same box - all the same -
> 192.168.0.1 - which is the address of the server.
>
> --
>
> Larry
> rapp at lmr dot com
>
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Re: Wierd problem with server

[Larry Rappaport]

Bob Fronk wrote:
Are you running DNS on your server?  


Yes.

Are your workstations pointing to the server or an outside DNS?

The workstations are pointing to the server.  The server forwards to 
outside dns.



Sounds like the one workstation has become the master browser.


That could be.


Look at your event logs on the server and workstations for a "browser war".


Damn.  Nothing there.



Google can help you with "master browser troubleshooting"


I'll get TechRepublic's Master Browser Tool Kit and take a look.  Thanks 
a lot, Bob.

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-Original Message-
From: Larry Rappaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wierd problem with server

Windows Server 2003.  5 workstations - 4 running Windows XP SP2, one
running Windows 2000 with all service packs.

If one particular workstation is running (Windows XP sp2), everything is
ok; if that workstation is NOT running, others cannot connect to network
drives (including those on the server) saying that those drives are busy
or not available.  All proper services are available and running on the
workstations.  Any ideas?
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Re: Wierd problem with server

[David W. McSpadden]

Just look at the services on the computer.
If Computer Browser is anything but manual or disabled it should be changed.

- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Rappaport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Wierd problem with server



Bob Fronk wrote:

Are you running DNS on your server?


Yes.

Are your workstations pointing to the server or an outside DNS?

The workstations are pointing to the server.  The server forwards to 
outside dns.



Sounds like the one workstation has become the master browser.


That could be.

Look at your event logs on the server and workstations for a "browser 
war".


Damn.  Nothing there.



Google can help you with "master browser troubleshooting"


I'll get TechRepublic's Master Browser Tool Kit and take a look.  Thanks a 
lot, Bob.

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Bob Fronk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Larry Rappaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wierd problem with server

Windows Server 2003.  5 workstations - 4 running Windows XP SP2, one
running Windows 2000 with all service packs.

If one particular workstation is running (Windows XP sp2), everything is
ok; if that workstation is NOT running, others cannot connect to network
drives (including those on the server) saying that those drives are busy
or not available.  All proper services are available and running on the
workstations.  Any ideas?
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Re: Wierd problem with server

[Larry Rappaport]

lists wrote:

WINS?  Never use it. You don't need to either unless you have a specific
application that requires it. If so it would be an older application.  


Sounds like your WinXP workstation has designated itself the Master
Browser.   Is this a peer to peer network or an AD domain?  


It's supposed to be an AD domain.  Definitely not peer to peer.

 If DNS is

configured on your server and the workstations use the Win2003 server
for DNS resolution you won't have this problem.

Cheers.


Well, I'll take a look - there may be a problem with the domain.  I know 
I made a mistake naming the domain lmr.com when there is a separate 
www.lmr.com.  I should have named it something else, but I don't know 
how to change it without a great deal of effort.


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RE: Ideas needed, maybe Radius server, maybe...

[Troy Meyer]

Mark,

If you are an edu you should have killer pricing on enterprise versions of MS 
software.  I know you say its out of the question, but you might sniff around 
and see what edu specific pricing might be.  (we bought through an education 
consortium, but you should be able to track down an MS rep in your area that 
deals specifically with education.)

When I worked for uoregon.edu we never bought 2003 standard because the price 
difference was miniscual

-troy


From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Ideas needed, maybe Radius server, maybe...

Hi folks,

Here's the situation, sorry for the long post.

There are a number of students using wireless in our dorms, about 350 of them. 
This past year, I had a little Linux router (read old PC) that could block by 
MAC address, and that was what I used to allow access to the internet.

Now we want to have some sort of username/password. The students all get 
accounts on our Windows 2003 domain, mostly for checking their email which are 
on our servers. We would like to use these accounts for authentication from 
their wireless connections.

If I read the docs correctly, Windows 2003 standard will allow for 50 Radius 
clients. I don't have any Windows 2003 Enterprise or DataCenter licenses (which 
allow unlimited Radius clients), and getting an Enterprise or Data Center 
license is out of the question.

I don't have any managed switches, and basically no routers (except for the 
little one mentioned above, and our firewall). The current wireless access 
points are a hodge podge of makes, most of which can talk with a radius server, 
but I think I do have one or two that can not.

I'm not familiar with Linux, but I can learn it if that will solve my problem.

Any other ideas I might be missing?

Thanks.

Mark






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Re: Ideas needed, maybe Radius server, maybe...

[Phil Brutsche]

It sounds like you need what some people call a captive portal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_portal

The only radius client you need is the box running the captive portal
software.

The Wikipedia page lists a few products that run under Windows, Linux,
or are meant to turn PCs into web-controlled appliances. I'll add
another one: m0n0wall (http://www.m0n0.ch/wall).

Reimer, Mark wrote:
> Hi folks,
>  
> Here's the situation, sorry for the long post.
>  
> There are a number of students using wireless in our dorms, about 350 of
> them. This past year, I had a little Linux router (read old PC) that
> could block by MAC address, and that was what I used to allow access to
> the internet.
>  
> Now we want to have some sort of username/password. The students all get
> accounts on our Windows 2003 domain, mostly for checking their email
> which are on our servers. We would like to use these accounts for
> authentication from their wireless connections.
>  
> If I read the docs correctly, Windows 2003 standard will allow for 50
> Radius clients. I don't have any Windows 2003 Enterprise or DataCenter
> licenses (which allow unlimited Radius clients), and getting an
> Enterprise or Data Center license is out of the question.
>  
> I don't have any managed switches, and basically no routers (except for
> the little one mentioned above, and our firewall). The current wireless
> access points are a hodge podge of makes, most of which can talk with a
> radius server, but I think I do have one or two that can not.
>  
> I'm not familiar with Linux, but I can learn it if that will solve my
> problem.
>  
> Any other ideas I might be missing?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Mark
>  
>  
> 


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Re: Ideas needed, maybe Radius server, maybe...

[mck1012]

check out http://nocat.net/




- Original Message 
From: "Reimer, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:30:23 PM
Subject: Ideas needed, maybe Radius server, maybe...


Hi 
folks,
 
Here's the 
situation, sorry for the long post.
 
There are a number 
of students using wireless in our dorms, about 350 of them. This past year, I 
had a little Linux router (read old PC) that could block by MAC address, and 
that was what I used to allow access to the internet.
 
Now we want to have 
some sort of username/password. The students all get accounts on our Windows 
2003 domain, mostly for checking their email which are on our servers. We would 
like to use these accounts for authentication from their wireless 
connections.
 
If I read the docs 
correctly, Windows 2003 standard will allow for 50 Radius clients. I don't have 
any Windows 2003 Enterprise or DataCenter licenses (which allow unlimited 
Radius 
clients), and getting an Enterprise or Data Center license is out of the 
question.
 
I don't have any 
managed switches, and basically no routers (except for the little one mentioned 
above, and our firewall). The current wireless access points are a hodge podge 
of makes, most of which can talk with a radius server, but I think I do have 
one 
or two that can not.
 
I'm not familiar 
with Linux, but I can learn it if that will solve my 
problem.
 
Any other ideas I 
might be missing?
 
Thanks.
 
Mark


  
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FTP server admin rights question

[Andy Shook]

Server 2003 std. SP2

 

Setting up a new production FTP server that I want to delegate the
responsibility of creating the accounts/virtual directories and
applicable permissions.  Can an account in the power users group do the
stuff needed within IIS?  I'd like to avoid making this person a local
admin, as they are a regular source of  PEBKAC errors.  ;) 

 

Shook

 


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RE: Defragmentation, Shadow copies and Server 2008

[Terry Dickson]

Just checked and one of my servers is set to defrag files on Sundays,
and Shadow Copies is enabled on that Volume.  It ran last Sunday the
18th with a Result of 0x0 and there are copies of the files out there
that I can recover from the 13th.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Defragmentation, Shadow copies and Server 2008

I've read that defragmenting a partition with shadowcopy enabled causes
the shadowcopies to be deleted.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312067/en-us

I've also read stuff about the Vista defragmenter being shadowcopy aware

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942092

Does anyone know if the Server 2008 defragmenter is shadowcopy aware?

Thanks for your help.

Curt 

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RE: Remote Control Application

[Mike Gill]

With a some quick modifications to a couple text files you can make Remote
Assistance connect and take control without any user intervention. But a
user must be logged in, and I've never tried doing it with a screen locked.
I'm thinking it wouldn't work.

 

-- 
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From: Christopher Boggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

 

With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.

 

With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that you can
offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I know.


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Re: Defragmentation, Shadow copies and Server 2008

[Salvador Manzo]

The article specifically mentions the word "may".


On 5/21/08 12:09 PM, "Terry Dickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just checked and one of my servers is set to defrag files on Sundays,
> and Shadow Copies is enabled on that Volume.  It ran last Sunday the
> 18th with a Result of 0x0 and there are copies of the files out there
> that I can recover from the 13th.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:48 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Defragmentation, Shadow copies and Server 2008
> 
> I've read that defragmenting a partition with shadowcopy enabled causes
> the shadowcopies to be deleted.
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312067/en-us
> 
> I've also read stuff about the Vista defragmenter being shadowcopy aware
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942092
> 
> Does anyone know if the Server 2008 defragmenter is shadowcopy aware?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Curt 

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Re: Wierd problem with server

[Larry Rappaport]

Larry Rappaport wrote:
Windows Server 2003.  5 workstations - 4 running Windows XP SP2, one 
running Windows 2000 with all service packs.


If one particular workstation is running (Windows XP sp2), everything is 
ok; if that workstation is NOT running, others cannot connect to network 
drives (including those on the server) saying that those drives are busy 
or not available.  All proper services are available and running on the 
workstations.  Any ideas?


Well, I think it was the computer browser.  I turned all of them off 
except the server and things seem to work.  I say "seem" because things 
appeared to work before and then they went south.  Thanks to all who 
replied.

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RE: FTP server admin rights question

[Ziots, Edward]

Not likely Shook, to do what you are describing in IIS 6. they are going
to need to be Admins, but lucky in IIS7.0 that all changes for good. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FTP server admin rights question

 

Server 2003 std. SP2

 

Setting up a new production FTP server that I want to delegate the
responsibility of creating the accounts/virtual directories and
applicable permissions.  Can an account in the power users group do the
stuff needed within IIS?  I'd like to avoid making this person a local
admin, as they are a regular source of  PEBKAC errors.  ;) 

 

Shook

 

 

 

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RE: Remote Control Application

[David Lum]

2003 Server adminpak.msi has a "remote desktops" utility that lets you
select any numbers of systems 

http://searchwincomputing.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid68_gci
1243095,00.html

Also Google " Remote desktops snap-in"

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-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday May 2008 16:08
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Bayesian Filter detected spam - RE:
Remote Control Application

When I try to use Remote Control, it forces the remote machine's user to
be locked/logged out while I take control... Is there a way to use
Microsoft's built in RDP without forcing the online user off?

Also, does anybody have any good RDP/VNC "monitoring" programs?
Something that will keep a list of machines, and make it easy for me to
connect? I have seen VNCScan and tried VNC Neighborhood, which is okay,
but I haven't seen one for Microsoft's Remote Control.

--Matt

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Boggs
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
07:00:20 -0700
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application


> With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.
> 
>  
> 
> With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that you
> can offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I
> know.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Is it true that with Microsoft's remote assistance, the user on the
> remote computer always has to initiate the connection?
> 
> As with UltraVNC, I can remote connect to any computer with or without
> the end user being there.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> Assuming you have VPN or some sort of remote connectivity to their
> network, RDP works great. I use it daily from home and remote
locations
> to access my work computer. Also it is free and supported by MS. Make
> sure the remote computer does not have any power saving, sleep mode,
> etc. enabled. 
> 
>  
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> From: tom lohrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:24 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Remote Control Application
> 
>  
> 
> I help manage a network across town.  There resides a pc on their
> network that has a specialized application for printing.  I need to be
> able to gain access of the display, keyboard and mouse from my office
or
> my home to access that application periodically during the week
without
> any user intervention on their side.   
> 
>  
> 
> We currently use "gotomeeting.com" but that requires them to start a
> meeting and since the pc is in a distant location in their building
they
> don't like it. 
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone have a good solution?  Anyone have a GREAT Solution? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
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RE: Remote Control Application

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Remote Desktop actually requires that the user be logged OUT.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

Remote Desktop *does not* require a user to be logged in, RA does. And with
some quick edits you can take control using RA without the user doing
anything.

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> -Original Message-
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:16 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
>
> Remote Desktop will require the remote machine's user to be logged out
> while you take control.  With Remote Assistance the user has to
> acknowledge that you are taking control of their "session" and you can
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RE: FTP server admin rights question

[Andy Shook]

Yep, that's what I'm seeing in my testing but I was hoping I was wrong.
That just sucks a batch of crud-muffins...

 

Shook



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: FTP server admin rights question

 

Not likely Shook, to do what you are describing in IIS 6. they are going
to need to be Admins, but lucky in IIS7.0 that all changes for good. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FTP server admin rights question

 

Server 2003 std. SP2

 

Setting up a new production FTP server that I want to delegate the
responsibility of creating the accounts/virtual directories and
applicable permissions.  Can an account in the power users group do the
stuff needed within IIS?  I'd like to avoid making this person a local
admin, as they are a regular source of  PEBKAC errors.  ;) 

 

Shook

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Remote Control Application

[Joe Fox]

I leave my workstation at home unlocked, and I can RDP to it no problem.
Although I will admit, I do use the /console flag (which I'm going to have
to switch to the /admin flag soon).

Joe

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Remote Desktop actually requires that the user be logged OUT.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:29 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
>
> Remote Desktop *does not* require a user to be logged in, RA does. And with
> some quick edits you can take control using RA without the user doing
> anything.
>
> --
> Mike Gill
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:16 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> >
> > Remote Desktop will require the remote machine's user to be logged out
> > while you take control.  With Remote Assistance the user has to
> > acknowledge that you are taking control of their "session" and you can
> > move their mouse around and send keystrokes.
> > HTH
>
>
>
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Re: Remote Control Application

[Steve Ens]

or it will log the current user out if something is logged in.

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Remote Desktop actually requires that the user be logged OUT.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:29 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
>
> Remote Desktop *does not* require a user to be logged in, RA does. And with
> some quick edits you can take control using RA without the user doing
> anything.
>
> --
> Mike Gill
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:16 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> >
> > Remote Desktop will require the remote machine's user to be logged out
> > while you take control.  With Remote Assistance the user has to
> > acknowledge that you are taking control of their "session" and you can
> > move their mouse around and send keystrokes.
> > HTH
>
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RE: Remote Control Application

[Michael Ross]

gencontrol

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

 

With a some quick modifications to a couple text files you can make Remote
Assistance connect and take control without any user intervention. But a
user must be logged in, and I've never tried doing it with a screen locked.
I'm thinking it wouldn't work.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Christopher Boggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

 

With remote assistance, yes, but not with remote desktop.

 

With Remote Assistance, you can set up unsolicited offers so that you can
offer to take control but they always have to OK it, as far as I know.

 

 

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RE: Remote Control Application

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Correct. I never said that THEY had to do the logging out...just that they had 
to be logged out. It will do it for them if need be.  ;-)

From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote Control Application

or it will log the current user out if something is logged in.
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
Remote Desktop actually requires that the user be logged OUT.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
Remote Desktop *does not* require a user to be logged in, RA does. And with
some quick edits you can take control using RA without the user doing
anything.

--
Mike Gill

> -Original Message-
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:16 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
>
> Remote Desktop will require the remote machine's user to be logged out
> while you take control.  With Remote Assistance the user has to
> acknowledge that you are taking control of their "session" and you can
> move their mouse around and send keystrokes.
> HTH


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RE: computer problem

[Tim Vander Kooi]

He didn't say the noise was coming from your bum JC.


-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: computer problem

Probably the hamsters!

- Original Message -
From: DAVID SMITH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed May 21 09:09:22 2008
Subject: computer problem

I have a computer that when ever you bring a program up it sounds like the 
processor is about to take off.  It gets real loud.  If you look at the task 
manager it has a program about 99%.  If you add more memory will it fix the 
problem.
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RE: Remote Control Application

[Mike Gill]

Remote Desktop *does not* require a user to be logged in, RA does. And with
some quick edits you can take control using RA without the user doing
anything.

-- 
Mike Gill

> -Original Message-
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:16 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
> 
> Remote Desktop will require the remote machine's user to be logged out
> while you take control.  With Remote Assistance the user has to
> acknowledge that you are taking control of their "session" and you can
> move their mouse around and send keystrokes.
> HTH



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RE: FTP server admin rights question

[Erik Goldoff]

well, you could always give them a local login to the FTP server (with RDP),
and install an inexpensive/free third party FTP software that has its own
user control separate from AD.

  _  

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: FTP server admin rights question



Yep, that’s what I’m seeing in my testing but I was hoping I was wrong.
That just sucks a batch of crud-muffins…

 

Shook

  _  

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: FTP server admin rights question

 

Not likely Shook, to do what you are describing in IIS 6. they are going to
need to be Admins, but lucky in IIS7.0 that all changes for good. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FTP server admin rights question

 

Server 2003 std. SP2

 

Setting up a new production FTP server that I want to delegate the
responsibility of creating the accounts/virtual directories and applicable
permissions.  Can an account in the power users group do the stuff needed
within IIS?  I’d like to avoid making this person a local admin, as they are
a regular source of  PEBKAC errors.  ;) 

 

Shook

 

 

 

 

 










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RE: FTP server admin rights question

[Ziots, Edward]

Why not try a 3rd party FTP service like WAR_FTP Or globalscape which is
a FTP-SSL, SSH implementation and you can control the creation of files
etc etc. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: FTP server admin rights question

 

Yep, that's what I'm seeing in my testing but I was hoping I was wrong.
That just sucks a batch of crud-muffins...

 

Shook



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: FTP server admin rights question

 

Not likely Shook, to do what you are describing in IIS 6. they are going
to need to be Admins, but lucky in IIS7.0 that all changes for good. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FTP server admin rights question

 

Server 2003 std. SP2

 

Setting up a new production FTP server that I want to delegate the
responsibility of creating the accounts/virtual directories and
applicable permissions.  Can an account in the power users group do the
stuff needed within IIS?  I'd like to avoid making this person a local
admin, as they are a regular source of  PEBKAC errors.  ;) 

 

Shook

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Remote Control Application

[Ziots, Edward]

Yep this is true, pain in the arse, but true. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

Remote Desktop actually requires that the user be logged OUT.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

Remote Desktop *does not* require a user to be logged in, RA does. And
with
some quick edits you can take control using RA without the user doing
anything.

--
Mike Gill

> -Original Message-
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:16 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
>
> Remote Desktop will require the remote machine's user to be logged out
> while you take control.  With Remote Assistance the user has to
> acknowledge that you are taking control of their "session" and you can
> move their mouse around and send keystrokes.
> HTH



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RE: Remote Control Application

[gsweers]

Thought I would chime in.

 

If you login as a specific user and they are logged in (You take over
their desktop, exactly as they had it)

If they are not logged in and you login, (Its like sitting at their
machine and logging in as you or them)

If they are logged in and you login (Assuming admin rights, you will log
them off and then login as the user overriding the session)

 

I am assuming most of us don't login as the users, but I know in some
cases that is not true, we will reset pw, take over control and then
have them reset it.   This way we are not passing out user/pw.

 

We use UltraVNC via an internal .exe they click on from
Sharepoint/internal website to initiate most internal connections
without having to worry about any passwords.

 

Greg

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

 

Correct. I never said that THEY had to do the logging out...just that
they had to be logged out. It will do it for them if need be.  ;-)

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote Control Application

 

or it will log the current user out if something is logged in.

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Remote Desktop actually requires that the user be logged OUT.


-Original Message-
From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Control Application

Remote Desktop *does not* require a user to be logged in, RA does. And
with
some quick edits you can take control using RA without the user doing
anything.

--
Mike Gill

> -Original Message-

> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:16 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Remote Control Application
>

> Remote Desktop will require the remote machine's user to be logged out
> while you take control.  With Remote Assistance the user has to
> acknowledge that you are taking control of their "session" and you can
> move their mouse around and send keystrokes.
> HTH



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RE: FTP server admin rights question

[David Lum]

Crud-muffins = donkey male member

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: FTP server admin rights question

 

Yep, that's what I'm seeing in my testing but I was hoping I was wrong.
That just sucks a batch of crud-muffins...

 

Shook



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: FTP server admin rights question

 

Not likely Shook, to do what you are describing in IIS 6. they are going
to need to be Admins, but lucky in IIS7.0 that all changes for good. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FTP server admin rights question

 

Server 2003 std. SP2

 

Setting up a new production FTP server that I want to delegate the
responsibility of creating the accounts/virtual directories and
applicable permissions.  Can an account in the power users group do the
stuff needed within IIS?  I'd like to avoid making this person a local
admin, as they are a regular source of  PEBKAC errors.  ;) 

 

Shook

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: FTP server admin rights question

[Michael B. Smith]

Can't be done with stock FTP server on 2003.

 

Can be done with stock FTP server on 2008.

 

Until then: Serv-U or FileZilla are my recommended solutions.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FTP server admin rights question

 

Server 2003 std. SP2

 

Setting up a new production FTP server that I want to delegate the
responsibility of creating the accounts/virtual directories and applicable
permissions.  Can an account in the power users group do the stuff needed
within IIS?  I'd like to avoid making this person a local admin, as they are
a regular source of  PEBKAC errors.  ;) 

 

Shook

 

 

 

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IP Data Center Camera

[Mike French]

Anybody have a recommendation for a Data Center IP Camera? I hear Axis
makes good one's? We currently have an over-priced D-Link pan/tilt
camera...Need to dump it...


MIKE FRENCH
NETWORK ENGINEER
~EQUITY BANK
Office: 214.231.4565
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Doing IT Right!


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RE: FTP server admin rights question

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Donkey male member = Shook

My apologies to all male donkeys whom I may have offended with this post...


From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: FTP server admin rights question

Crud-muffins = donkey male member

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: FTP server admin rights question

Yep, that's what I'm seeing in my testing but I was hoping I was wrong.   That 
just sucks a batch of crud-muffins...

Shook

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: FTP server admin rights question

Not likely Shook, to do what you are describing in IIS 6. they are going to 
need to be Admins, but lucky in IIS7.0 that all changes for good.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505
-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FTP server admin rights question

Server 2003 std. SP2

Setting up a new production FTP server that I want to delegate the 
responsibility of creating the accounts/virtual directories and applicable 
permissions.  Can an account in the power users group do the stuff needed 
within IIS?  I'd like to avoid making this person a local admin, as they are a 
regular source of  PEBKAC errors.  ;)

Shook














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Windows 2000 Domain Controller can't login

[Thomas Mullins]

I have a fully patched Windows 2000 Domain Controller.  It looks like
the machine account has become disabled.  We can't login to the box.  We
get "Your account has been disabled.  Please contact your
administrator".  Is there any way we can enable or reset that account
without being able to login?  I have an up to date backup if we need to
restore.

Thanks
Shane

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RE: Ideas needed, maybe Radius server, maybe...

[Ken Cornetet]

Use the Squid proxy server (win32 port available)

 

See the section on authentication
http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/ProxyAuthentication

 

From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Ideas needed, maybe Radius server, maybe...

 

Hi folks,

 

Here's the situation, sorry for the long post.

 

There are a number of students using wireless in our dorms, about 350 of
them. This past year, I had a little Linux router (read old PC) that
could block by MAC address, and that was what I used to allow access to
the internet.

 

Now we want to have some sort of username/password. The students all get
accounts on our Windows 2003 domain, mostly for checking their email
which are on our servers. We would like to use these accounts for
authentication from their wireless connections.

 

If I read the docs correctly, Windows 2003 standard will allow for 50
Radius clients. I don't have any Windows 2003 Enterprise or DataCenter
licenses (which allow unlimited Radius clients), and getting an
Enterprise or Data Center license is out of the question.

 

I don't have any managed switches, and basically no routers (except for
the little one mentioned above, and our firewall). The current wireless
access points are a hodge podge of makes, most of which can talk with a
radius server, but I think I do have one or two that can not.

 

I'm not familiar with Linux, but I can learn it if that will solve my
problem.

 

Any other ideas I might be missing?

 

Thanks.

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

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Re: IP Data Center Camera

[Matthew W. Ross]

What do you need?

JPEG or MPEG4? Dome or Box? PTZ? Megapixel? Night Vision? POE? Vandal Resistant 
or not?

Axis is the #1 IP Camera manufacturer for a reason, and you can't go wrong with 
them.

I like Toshiba's line, and I've heard others like Panasonic's line. 

If you find a really cheap camera, find out if it's just a Vivotek re-branded. 
There are a ton of them out there. Vivotek isn't bad, but "Inexpensive Korean" 
is the best, short description I can give.

Last, APC sells a camera designed for server rooms/racks. Maybe that's more 
like what you need.

--Matt Ross

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From: Mike French
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To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 21 May 2008
13:31:44 -0700
Subject: IP Data Center Camera


> Anybody have a recommendation for a Data Center IP Camera? I hear Axis
> makes good one's? We currently have an over-priced D-Link pan/tilt
> camera...Need to dump it...
> 
> 
> MIKE FRENCH
> NETWORK ENGINEER
> ~EQUITY BANK
> Office: 214.231.4565
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Windows 2000 Domain Controller can't login

[lists]

Via ADUC in the domain controllers group, can you right click and
"manage" the DC?

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Mullins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 2000 Domain Controller can't login

I have a fully patched Windows 2000 Domain Controller.  It looks like
the machine account has become disabled.  We can't login to the box.  We
get "Your account has been disabled.  Please contact your
administrator".  Is there any way we can enable or reset that account
without being able to login?  I have an up to date backup if we need to
restore.

Thanks
Shane

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Re: Windows 2000 Domain Controller can't login

[Peter van Houten]

NT Password reset disk.  You should be able to reset the local 
administrator account status:


http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Mullins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:43 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 2000 Domain Controller can't login

I have a fully patched Windows 2000 Domain Controller.  It looks like
the machine account has become disabled.  We can't login to the box.  We
get "Your account has been disabled.  Please contact your
administrator".  Is there any way we can enable or reset that account
without being able to login?  I have an up to date backup if we need to
restore.

Thanks
Shane


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