RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Ken Schaefer
Windows Home Server (if you have >1 machine)

Cheers
Ken

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 31 May 2008 5:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

Mozy Free.

For huge stuff, Karen's or SyncBack.

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

Hi

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop)
Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in backup?
Thanks

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Re: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I use the nonpublic portion of my web host. I already get 60 GB with that
account, so why not use the unallocated space for storage of photos and
such? Webhostingbuzz plans are about $48 a year.

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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Edward B. DREGER
SC> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:53:24 -0500
SC> From: Sam Cayze

SC> Stuff I don't really want to jam over my Pipe

It's Friday.  Is nobody going to make a Shook joke?


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RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

2008-05-30 Thread Roger Wright
No... I have to disagree with you!  All URLs should be limited to 25
characters or less. 

 
Roger

-Original Message-
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 6:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

Roger Wright wrote:

> I'm sure there are many more that could make the list:
> 
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/64ynuo



I'd certainly add tinyurl to the list. ;-)

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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Jacob
I have 2 external fire wire HDs for my desktop at home.

 

When I shutdown my desktop or laptop, I run a script at backups up data  to
the external HD.

 

Every week, I rotate the external HD.  The one that is not attached to my
system is stored at my dad's house in his gun safe.

 

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in backup?

Thanks 

 

 

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Re: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

2008-05-30 Thread Jim McAtee

Tim Vander Kooi wrote:


Apparently we should all be glad that Andy Smith does not configure or
support our Exchange environments. ;-)



What Exchange environment?

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Re: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

2008-05-30 Thread Jim McAtee

Roger Wright wrote:


I'm sure there are many more that could make the list:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/64ynuo




I'd certainly add tinyurl to the list. ;-)

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RE: Batteries for UPS

2008-05-30 Thread Erik Goldoff
Voltex ! 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Batteries for UPS

OK, we have a number of APC Back-UP 500 ES and 550 ES UPS units.  Their
battery, if one peels away the otherwise useless lable, says 12v 7.2 Ah. 
It's a wee bit under 6" long, 3.75: high, and 2.5" wide.  Both spade
terminals are at one end...

Although the 550 ES is currently being sold, APC's web site, depending on
its mood, says either no replacement battery is available or to use RBC-110.
(Of coarse, they then claim RBC-110 does not exist!)

CDW, who just sold us some more 550 ES units this week, claims there is no
replacement battery.

One more thing - a couple of years ago we bought some non-APC batteries,
17v, 8 Ah, and many in that shippment were dead on arrival.

Before I become [more] profane, where does one get a battery to replace in
those things

THanks!
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Dennis Hoefer
backups!  we don't need no stinkin backups!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3YpdMxrIXg



From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup



I have an external drive. I do full NT Backup M, W, F, then on Sunday
Acronis True Image backup.

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 






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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Martin Blackstone
I have an external drive. I do full NT Backup M, W, F, then on Sunday
Acronis True Image backup.

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in backup?

Thanks 

 

 

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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Webb, Brian (Corp)
I've been playing with HP Upline which is a lot like Mozy except the
client has an option to do a local backup as well.  The local backup can
be a different set of files so I have a small subset of files going to
the free Upline storage and I have the local backup going to my NAS.  
 
Upline had some problems a few days after it went live, but has been
working fine since it came back up.
 
-Brian

 



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup



Agreed.  I use Mozy for Important files like tax/finance/email/etc.   I
used Syncback for Music, DVDs, Pictures, etc.   Stuff I don't really
want to jam over my Pipe, and stuff that I CAN live without in case of
fire/theft.And, doing so keeps me under the 2GB cap on the Mozy Free
service.

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

I don't "need" it, but I like having a local backup as well as my
off-site backup.

 

Roger

 

From: Liu, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Why do you need syncback when Mozy backs up open files? 

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Then take a look at Syncback with an external hard drive.  I use this in
addition to Mozy.  

 

Roger

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Wow that looks like a nice set except my home bandwidth is ***

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: May 30, 2008 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

I like Mozy myself.  Well worth the $50/year for an off-site backup of
my personal files.

 

 

Roger Wright

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 






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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Sam Cayze
Agreed.  I use Mozy for Important files like tax/finance/email/etc.   I
used Syncback for Music, DVDs, Pictures, etc.   Stuff I don't really
want to jam over my Pipe, and stuff that I CAN live without in case of
fire/theft.And, doing so keeps me under the 2GB cap on the Mozy Free
service.

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

I don't "need" it, but I like having a local backup as well as my
off-site backup.

 

Roger

 

From: Liu, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Why do you need syncback when Mozy backs up open files? 

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Then take a look at Syncback with an external hard drive.  I use this in
addition to Mozy.  

 

Roger

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Wow that looks like a nice set except my home bandwidth is ***

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: May 30, 2008 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

I like Mozy myself.  Well worth the $50/year for an off-site backup of
my personal files.

 

 

Roger Wright

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

2008-05-30 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Apparently we should all be glad that Andy Smith does not configure or support 
our Exchange environments. ;-)
TVK

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

Add to the list any site that makes you click 'Next' ten times to read a
damn article.

I'd have to agree with all of them except Outlook/Exchange.  Wow, can't
believe that was on the list.




-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

I'm sure there are many more that could make the list:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/64ynuo

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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Roger Wright
I don't "need" it, but I like having a local backup as well as my
off-site backup.

 

Roger

 

From: Liu, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Why do you need syncback when Mozy backs up open files? 

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Then take a look at Syncback with an external hard drive.  I use this in
addition to Mozy.  

 

Roger

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Wow that looks like a nice set except my home bandwidth is ***

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: May 30, 2008 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

I like Mozy myself.  Well worth the $50/year for an off-site backup of
my personal files.

 

 

Roger Wright

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Liu, David
Why do you need syncback when Mozy backs up open files? 

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Then take a look at Syncback with an external hard drive.  I use this in
addition to Mozy.  

 

Roger

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Wow that looks like a nice set except my home bandwidth is ***

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: May 30, 2008 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

I like Mozy myself.  Well worth the $50/year for an off-site backup of
my personal files.

 

 

Roger Wright

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Roger Wright
Then take a look at Syncback with an external hard drive.  I use this in
addition to Mozy.  

 

Roger

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Wow that looks like a nice set except my home bandwidth is ***

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: May 30, 2008 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

I like Mozy myself.  Well worth the $50/year for an off-site backup of
my personal files.

 

 

Roger Wright

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Recent problems with hardware

2008-05-30 Thread Klint Price - ArizonaITPro
At my previous job I just left, we had over 50 GX270's replaced out of 
the 400 in the building due to bulging capacitors.

Klint

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> #1 is a known problem.  Do a Google search for leaky or bulging capacitors 
> on Dell Optiplex machines...
>
> We've had that happen on 3 of ours.  Dell replaced two of them (they were 
> still under warranty, but they've been known to replace them even on 
> out-of-warranty systems).
>
> The third was one purchased and "modified" by NEC.  Our NEC vendor 
> scrounged up a similar system which may or may not fail at any time (it's 
> our voice mail system).  Less than 2 months, and we're rid of NEC!!!
>
> Intersting story of industrial espionage...  An electronics company broke 
> into the databases of a rival to steal their capacitor electrolyte 
> formula.  They stole one their competitor was not using as they knew it 
> would result in failing capacitors.  The bad guys thought they had the 
> good formula and sold millions of them to MB manufacturers, including MBs 
> used by Dell.
> --
> Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
> ASPCA Knowledge Management
> 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
> 217-337-9761
> http://www.aspca.org
>
>
> "Micheal Espinola Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/30/2008 
> 12:34:40 PM:
>
>   
>> In light of some of the recent hardware-related oddities posted here,
>> I thought I'd share two of my own more annoying recent discoveries in
>> the past 6 months:
>>
>> 1. Dell Optiplex GX520's have a motherboard problem. The system will
>> shut itself off, leaving the user only with an amber flashing power
>> button light.  The motherboard needs to be replaced to correct this
>> issue. My show has many of these PC's, and it has happened to 4 so
>> far. This starts are a very infrequent annoyance that becomes more
>> frequent over time - resulting in not being able to keep the system on
>> for more than 60 seconds between occurrences.  It appears to me to be
>> a heat sensor problem, but I don't have confirmation on that.
>>
>> 2.  I don't have a manufacturer commonality for this one, but it
>> appears to be specific to Serial-ATA. The problem/cause is still
>> unknown to me, but the result is partition corruption that makes the
>> drive unreadable without special utilities that can read raw data.
>> Twice this happened to the same HDD.  The other other two instances
>> were different HDD's from different computers. In each case the
>> partition info could be reconstructed.  It has happened to my own
>> system at home as well as user systems at work.  The only commonality
>> was that there were all Windows XP systems.
>>
>> These are just some things to have recall for if you run into similar
>> oddities.  That is all.
>>
>> -- 
>> ME2
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Re: Weird OT: Old Solaris software

2008-05-30 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Phillip Partipilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wish I was so lucky.  File gives me " ELF 32-bit MSB executable,
> SPARC32PLUS, V8+ Required, Sun UltraSPARC1 Extensions Required, version 1
> (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped"

  You would need a virtual machine emulator.  Such software uses
software to emulate an entire computer, including the processor and
peripheral hardware.  (In contrast to VM systems like VMware, which
depend on native hardware.)

http://www.google.com/search?q=sparc+emulator

  That found some interesting matches, including QEMU (Free/Open
Source) and QuickTransit (commercial).  Never used either of them.

http://www.transitive.com/products/solsparc_solx86

http://bellard.org/qemu/qemu-doc.html

-- Ben

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Re: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

2008-05-30 Thread Sean Martin
How is tech republic supposed to satisfy their advertisers if they make the
article viewable on a single page? Don't be so selfish! ;-)

- Sean


On 5/30/08, Sam Cayze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Add to the list any site that makes you click 'Next' ten times to read a
> damn article.
>
> I'd have to agree with all of them except Outlook/Exchange.  Wow, can't
> believe that was on the list.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:32 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet
>
> I'm sure there are many more that could make the list:
>
>http://preview.tinyurl.com/64ynuo
>
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Re: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Ara Avvali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop)

  I  use tar, which is a 'nix utility.  (I run Linux at home, and use
that to backup both 'nix and 'doze.)  ZIP or whatever would work
similar.  I do a full backup every time -- I just start it before I go
to bed, and it's done in the morning.  I write to DVD+RW disc.  I've
got a couple different discs which I use in rotation.  I carry them in
to work with me and keep them locked in my desk drawer at work.

-- Ben

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Re: OT: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

2008-05-30 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Good find Roger.  And my number 1 complaint about software & their updates
was the first on the list.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Roger Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm sure there are many more that could make the list:
>
>http://preview.tinyurl.com/64ynuo
>
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Re: Deny Login if not secure

2008-05-30 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I do, but if I gave it to you I'd have to kill you.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Steve Kelsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You don't have a script to do that laying around unused and homeless, do
> you?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:01 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Deny Login if not secure
>
> Just a note in terms of custom scripting etc: Check for key file(s)
> existance, service existance, service set to automatic, and service is
> running.
>
> If not *all* conditions are true, you have a security  problem that is
> indicative of malware.
>
> On 5/29/08, Steve Kelsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is there a GPO setting or script that can refuse to allow a logon if a
>> file (antivirus file) is not installed?
>>
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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Ara Avvali
Since I have a laptop I am trying to achieve what apple does with time
machine and time capsule. So I am looking for wireless solutions. The
drive I sent has a nic and I can connect to my router at home and do
that way

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: May 30, 2008 4:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: home computer backup

 

http://www.lacie.com/ca/products/product.htm?pid=10943
I bought this one for $100 on Boxing Day...works great as a "sync"
drive, no additional software required.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Ara Avvali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I already have a western digital USB but since this is a laptop I was
looking for a cheap networked solution. Something like
http://www.lacie.com/ca/products/product.htm?pid=10994 

 

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: May 30, 2008 3:51 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Get one of the USB or Firewire external drives that are now available in
500 G to Terabyte size range for $150-$200 dollars.  Most of them come
with software that will help you with the backups.

 



From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Steve Ens
http://www.lacie.com/ca/products/product.htm?pid=10943
I bought this one for $100 on Boxing Day...works great as a "sync" drive, no
additional software required.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Ara Avvali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I already have a western digital USB but since this is a laptop I was
> looking for a cheap networked solution. Something like
> http://www.lacie.com/ca/products/product.htm?pid=10994
>
>
>
> *From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* May 30, 2008 3:51 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: home computer backup
>
>
>
> Get one of the USB or Firewire external drives that are now available in
> 500 G to Terabyte size range for $150-$200 dollars.  Most of them come with
> software that will help you with the backups.
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 30, 2008 2:34 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* home computer backup
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop)
>
> Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in backup?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: (0T) Ports needed for MetaFrame Presentation Server Web Client

2008-05-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if you are using Web Interface and Presentation server you can utilize port
443,
however, you must have Web Interface setup to use port 443 and have a
certificate.
You would have to have a cert with the FQDN setup to resolve to the
external IP
address on the firewall. If you are NAT'ing a public to private address on
your 
firewall without SSL then you will need 1494 or 2598 depending if you are
using session reliability.

Mike

Original Message:
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From: lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:19:26 -0500
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: (0T) Ports needed for MetaFrame Presentation Server Web Client


1494/2598 if memory serves along with 80.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: (0T) Ports needed for MetaFrame Presentation Server Web Client

 

A user would like to be able to use some Citrix client to help manage
his Church.  I would like to allow him to do so, but I can't seem to get
it to connect on our network.

It connects fine on our Sprint EVDO Data cards, so it must be our
firewall.  I have talked with the software provider for the church, and
they keep telling me that all I need is port 443 open.  Well, we
obviously have that open...  I can't find any docs outlying the
requirements to run this software.  

 

Do you guys that might actually know something about Citrix be able to
clue us in?

 

Thanks,

 

Sam

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Recent problems with hardware

2008-05-30 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:42 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #1 is a known problem.  Do a Google search for leaky or bulging capacitors
> on Dell Optiplex machines...

  Yah.  Faulty electrolytic capacitors are an industry-wide problem,
not just Dell.  "Capacitor plague" is the usual name I hear for it.
Basically, the capacitors use an inferior electrolyte formulation
which degrades over time.  Gas builds up inside the capacitor, causing
it to deform ("bulge") and eventually to rupture ("leak").  Either can
kill the capacitor, cause it to smoke, or just degrade it's
performance (leading to erratic crashes).

  I do seem to hear about cap plague for Dell machines more than
others, but that could just be because more people have Dell machines.
 Or maybe Dell is overly concerned with cost and not enough with
quality.

  It's not a new problem, either.  I had a motherboard I bought circa
1999 die of cap plague a few years ago.

> Intersting story of industrial espionage...  An electronics company broke
> into the databases of a rival to steal their capacitor electrolyte
> formula.

  I've heard that, too, but it seems like the problem is going on for
far longer than just one incident could account for.

-- Ben

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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Ara Avvali
I already have a western digital USB but since this is a laptop I was
looking for a cheap networked solution. Something like
http://www.lacie.com/ca/products/product.htm?pid=10994 

 

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: May 30, 2008 3:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Get one of the USB or Firewire external drives that are now available in
500 G to Terabyte size range for $150-$200 dollars.  Most of them come
with software that will help you with the backups.

 



From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 

 

 

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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Andy Ognenoff
I've been playing with Mozy too and it seems REALLY slow compared to IDrive,
which I'm also testing.  Not the upload speed but the actual application
interface and generating the list of files needing to be backed up.

My main form of home backup is Retrospect Pro to removable drives (trays)
that I then store in my fire retardant safe at home and I take one of them
to work 20 miles away and keep it in a fire box under my desk.

(I know my backup scheme seems like overkill but I have hundreds of gigs of
photos I shot that I can’t stand to lose.)

 - Andy O. 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

I like Mozy myself.  Well worth the $50/year for an off-site backup of my
personal files.


Roger Wright

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

Hi

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 
Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in backup?
Thanks 






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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Sam Cayze
Useless in a fire or theft.  Unless you are actually going to take them
offsite... yeah right.

 

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Get one of the USB or Firewire external drives that are now available in
500 G to Terabyte size range for $150-$200 dollars.  Most of them come
with software that will help you with the backups.

 



From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 

 

 

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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Sam Cayze
I use Mozy and my Internet at home is hardly better than 700Down/200Up.

 

It's all throttled, brick level backups.  

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

Wow that looks like a nice set except my home bandwidth is ***

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: May 30, 2008 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

I like Mozy myself.  Well worth the $50/year for an off-site backup of
my personal files.

 

 

Roger Wright

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
Get one of the USB or Firewire external drives that are now available in
500 G to Terabyte size range for $150-$200 dollars.  Most of them come
with software that will help you with the backups.

 



From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 

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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Ara Avvali
Wow that looks like a nice set except my home bandwidth is ***

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: May 30, 2008 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: home computer backup

 

I like Mozy myself.  Well worth the $50/year for an off-site backup of
my personal files.

 

 

Roger Wright

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 

 

 

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Anyone Bank in New York or New Jersey??

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator


http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&;
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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Sam Cayze
Mozy Free.

 

For huge stuff, Karen's or SyncBack.

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 

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RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

2008-05-30 Thread Sam Cayze
Add to the list any site that makes you click 'Next' ten times to read a
damn article.

I'd have to agree with all of them except Outlook/Exchange.  Wow, can't
believe that was on the list.




-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

I'm sure there are many more that could make the list:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/64ynuo

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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Roger Wright
I like Mozy myself.  Well worth the $50/year for an off-site backup of
my personal files.

 

 

Roger Wright

 

From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup

 

Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 

 

 

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RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

2008-05-30 Thread Eldridge, Dave
Just had to rebuild an HP with an AMD chip and after "not" running sp3
the second time around removing all the dang bundled software that is
loaded. Yuck

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

I'm sure there are many more that could make the list:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/64ynuo

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RE: home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
I remove my hard drive and throw it over to my neighbors house and he
throws me his.
That way we have offsite backups.
 
:-P
Trying to be funny... hey it is Friday!! Beer Thirty!!
 




From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: home computer backup



Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 






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RE: Deny Login if not secure

2008-05-30 Thread Steve Kelsay
You don't have a script to do that laying around unused and homeless, do
you?

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Deny Login if not secure

Just a note in terms of custom scripting etc: Check for key file(s)
existance, service existance, service set to automatic, and service is
running.

If not *all* conditions are true, you have a security  problem that is
indicative of malware.

On 5/29/08, Steve Kelsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a GPO setting or script that can refuse to allow a logon if a
> file (antivirus file) is not installed?
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home computer backup

2008-05-30 Thread Ara Avvali
Hi

 

I was wondering what you guys use to backup your home computer (Laptop) 

Anyone had any success with Apple time capsule and vista built in
backup?

Thanks 


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OT: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

2008-05-30 Thread Roger Wright
I'm sure there are many more that could make the list:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/64ynuo

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RE: (0T) Ports needed for MetaFrame Presentation Server Web Client

2008-05-30 Thread Eldridge, Dave
Working on this today.

This is correct. 2598 then it picks up 1494

 

From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
lists
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: (0T) Ports needed for MetaFrame Presentation Server Web
Client

 

1494/2598 if memory serves along with 80.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: (0T) Ports needed for MetaFrame Presentation Server Web Client

 

A user would like to be able to use some Citrix client to help manage
his Church.  I would like to allow him to do so, but I can't seem to get
it to connect on our network.

It connects fine on our Sprint EVDO Data cards, so it must be our
firewall.  I have talked with the software provider for the church, and
they keep telling me that all I need is port 443 open.  Well, we
obviously have that open...  I can't find any docs outlying the
requirements to run this software.  

 

Do you guys that might actually know something about Citrix be able to
clue us in?

 

Thanks,

 

Sam

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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RE: (0T) Ports needed for MetaFrame Presentation Server Web Client

2008-05-30 Thread lists
1494/2598 if memory serves along with 80.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: (0T) Ports needed for MetaFrame Presentation Server Web Client

 

A user would like to be able to use some Citrix client to help manage
his Church.  I would like to allow him to do so, but I can't seem to get
it to connect on our network.

It connects fine on our Sprint EVDO Data cards, so it must be our
firewall.  I have talked with the software provider for the church, and
they keep telling me that all I need is port 443 open.  Well, we
obviously have that open...  I can't find any docs outlying the
requirements to run this software.  

 

Do you guys that might actually know something about Citrix be able to
clue us in?

 

Thanks,

 

Sam

 

 

 

 

 

 

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(0T) Ports needed for MetaFrame Presentation Server Web Client

2008-05-30 Thread Sam Cayze
A user would like to be able to use some Citrix client to help manage
his Church.  I would like to allow him to do so, but I can't seem to get
it to connect on our network.
It connects fine on our Sprint EVDO Data cards, so it must be our
firewall.  I have talked with the software provider for the church, and
they keep telling me that all I need is port 443 open.  Well, we
obviously have that open...  I can't find any docs outlying the
requirements to run this software.  
 
Do you guys that might actually know something about Citrix be able to
clue us in?
 
Thanks,
 
Sam
 
 

 

 


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Re: Weird OT: Old Solaris software

2008-05-30 Thread Phil Brutsche
Bah, ancient stuff. Probably ran on a Ultra 1 or Ultra 2.

They should run fine on the U60s, you can download Solaris 10 from Sun.

Don't bother with the monitors, if you boot 'em without a keyboard
attached they put the console on TTYA, 9600 8n1 (by default).

Phillip Partipilo wrote:
> Wish I was so lucky.  File gives me " ELF 32-bit MSB executable,
> SPARC32PLUS, V8+ Required, Sun UltraSPARC1 Extensions Required, version 1
> (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped"
> 
> I have a stack of Sun Ultra60s in the closet, and maybe 1 or 2 working Sun
> 13W3 monitors (hope they don't pop as soon as they fire up!).  And who knows
> if they work.  And I have no clue what the superuser password is either :-)
> 
> This could be a fun ending to a not-so-bad week for me actually. 

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RE: Weird OT: Old Solaris software

2008-05-30 Thread Phillip Partipilo
Wish I was so lucky.  File gives me " ELF 32-bit MSB executable,
SPARC32PLUS, V8+ Required, Sun UltraSPARC1 Extensions Required, version 1
(SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped"

I have a stack of Sun Ultra60s in the closet, and maybe 1 or 2 working Sun
13W3 monitors (hope they don't pop as soon as they fire up!).  And who knows
if they work.  And I have no clue what the superuser password is either :-)

This could be a fun ending to a not-so-bad week for me actually. 


 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Weird OT: Old Solaris software



If it's an i386 Solaris box they should run fine on an Solaris 10 machine.
At one point in time you could run Solaris binaries under Linux, but that
was before that feature was removed - no one used it.

If it's an old SPARCstation or UltraSPARC you'll need to find the
appropriate hardware - an Ultra 5 or SunBlade is cheap on eBay.

Phillip Partipilo wrote:
> Weird one.  I'm loathing the idea of dusting off one of our old Sun 
> Slowaris boxes sitting in the closet, but I'm presented with some 
> binaries that apparently only run on it. Figure theres some way to 
> coerce it into running on a regular x86 box whether its win32 or linux 
> (x64)?  I bet this is the furthest shot in the dark possible, since 
> it's a totally different architecture.  (Jeez please don't make me 
> dust off those pieces of rubbish)

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RE: Weird OT: Old Solaris software

2008-05-30 Thread Joseph L. Casale
That's where I was headed :)

-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird OT: Old Solaris software

Don't have VM in which you might be able to load Slowlaris on and run
that trash from there?

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Weird OT: Old Solaris software

Weird one.  I'm loathing the idea of dusting off one of our old Sun
Slowaris
boxes sitting in the closet, but I'm presented with some binaries that
apparently only run on it. Figure theres some way to coerce it into
running
on a regular x86 box whether its win32 or linux (x64)?  I bet this is
the
furthest shot in the dark possible, since it's a totally different
architecture.  (Jeez please don't make me dust off those pieces of
rubbish)


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107





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Re: Weird OT: Old Solaris software

2008-05-30 Thread Phil Brutsche
If it's an i386 Solaris box they should run fine on an Solaris 10
machine. At one point in time you could run Solaris binaries under
Linux, but that was before that feature was removed - no one used it.

If it's an old SPARCstation or UltraSPARC you'll need to find the
appropriate hardware - an Ultra 5 or SunBlade is cheap on eBay.

Phillip Partipilo wrote:
> Weird one.  I'm loathing the idea of dusting off one of our old Sun Slowaris
> boxes sitting in the closet, but I'm presented with some binaries that
> apparently only run on it. Figure theres some way to coerce it into running
> on a regular x86 box whether its win32 or linux (x64)?  I bet this is the
> furthest shot in the dark possible, since it's a totally different
> architecture.  (Jeez please don't make me dust off those pieces of rubbish)

-- 

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RE: Weird OT: Old Solaris software

2008-05-30 Thread Phillip Partipilo
Heck if I know :-)  Waiting to hear back from client whether they have the
code compiled for some other platform, or the source itself.  Wouldn't be
surprised if its some 40 year old Fortran code. 


 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird OT: Old Solaris software



What version of slowaris?

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Weird OT: Old Solaris software

Weird one.  I'm loathing the idea of dusting off one of our old Sun Slowaris
boxes sitting in the closet, but I'm presented with some binaries that
apparently only run on it. Figure theres some way to coerce it into running
on a regular x86 box whether its win32 or linux (x64)?  I bet this is the
furthest shot in the dark possible, since it's a totally different
architecture.  (Jeez please don't make me dust off those pieces of rubbish)


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
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Re: Recent problems with hardware

2008-05-30 Thread Phil Brutsche
BTW I've also seen it on OptiPlex GX280s.

Weird part is, I've got 4 GX280s purchased on the exact same order and
two of them have the exact same set of bad capacitors.

Sean Martin wrote:
> We had a large problem with our Dell Optiplex SX270s blowing capacitors
> on the motherboard preventing the systems from powering on. I don't have
> an exact number but I'm sure we replaced 50+ due to the issue. I believe
> Dell indicated they had a large batch of faulty mother boards, which is
> believable as we still have quite a few SX270s running without issue.
> This was of course a couple of years ago as we're now deploying the
> Optiplex 745s and newer... 

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RE: Weird OT: Old Solaris software

2008-05-30 Thread Ziots, Edward
Don't have VM in which you might be able to load Slowlaris on and run
that trash from there? 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Weird OT: Old Solaris software

Weird one.  I'm loathing the idea of dusting off one of our old Sun
Slowaris
boxes sitting in the closet, but I'm presented with some binaries that
apparently only run on it. Figure theres some way to coerce it into
running
on a regular x86 box whether its win32 or linux (x64)?  I bet this is
the
furthest shot in the dark possible, since it's a totally different
architecture.  (Jeez please don't make me dust off those pieces of
rubbish)

 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 



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RE: Pause user access to a file server

2008-05-30 Thread Ziots, Edward
Correct, because to connect to a server the server service needs to be
started, to connect to another server I believe it only needs the
workstation service to be started. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Pause user access to a file server

 

Any idea how this might effect a robocopy session, if the session starts
*from* the server that has the service paused, it won't be a problem I
presume?

Thanks!
jlc

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Pause user access to a file server

 

Could pause the server service after you made a connection (s) to other
servers. AS needed. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Pause user access to a file server

 

I was trying to do this without preventing that server's ability to copy
data to a another server.
Anyone know which service to pause to facilitate this?

 

Thanks!
jlc 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Networker and Quantum Scalar Problem

2008-05-30 Thread Ziots, Edward
If I recall, you also have to license the number of slots in Networker.
Just having an autoloader licensed isn't enough.  It's been a long time
though since we did the licensing, so YMMV.  
 
For example, we have a 512 slot library.  Networker is only licences for
256.  guess how many it "sees"?  256.
 
Our library is an ADIC - now owned by Quantum.


On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Joe Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Just an update on this problem.  I did an update on the Unknown
Media Changer in the Device Manager, and had it go out to the internet
to find a driver.  It now reports back as a Quantum PX500 Series Media
Changer, but still is only seen with two slots in EMC Networker.  I was
going to try and upgrade the EMC software this afternoon, but my boss
wants to leave that as a last resort.

Thanks
Joe 


On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Steve Kistenmacher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Had a similar problem with quantum superloader  the
unknown media changer with MS driver is the way it should show up,
problem we had was software EMC power path the backup software (BE12
uses its own drivers for tape drive)  wasn't able to access the device
to create the needed robotic library. 





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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Networker and Quantum Scalar Problem

 

 







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Yeah we been having out own trials and Tribulations with Quantum IScalar
2000 and our Legato 7.3.2 with Load issues pushing to LTO4 drives and
still causing Legato to barf after soo many groups of servers being
pushed accordingly. 

 

Z

 

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Lifespan Organization

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Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Networker and Quantum Scalar Problem

 

 


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RE: Weird OT: Old Solaris software

2008-05-30 Thread Joseph L. Casale
What version of slowaris?

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Weird OT: Old Solaris software

Weird one.  I'm loathing the idea of dusting off one of our old Sun Slowaris
boxes sitting in the closet, but I'm presented with some binaries that
apparently only run on it. Figure theres some way to coerce it into running
on a regular x86 box whether its win32 or linux (x64)?  I bet this is the
furthest shot in the dark possible, since it's a totally different
architecture.  (Jeez please don't make me dust off those pieces of rubbish)


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107





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Re: Networker and Quantum Scalar Problem

2008-05-30 Thread Joe Fox
I have an Autoloader/16 and an Autoloader/9 license installed on my
networker server (both enabler and authcode) so it should be seeing 25
slots, the hardware is licensed for 26.

Joe

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Kevin Lundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If I recall, you also have to license the number of slots in Networker.
> Just having an autoloader licensed isn't enough.  It's been a long time
> though since we did the licensing, so YMMV.
>
> For example, we have a 512 slot library.  Networker is only licences for
> 256.  guess how many it "sees"?  256.
>
> Our library is an ADIC - now owned by Quantum.
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Joe Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Just an update on this problem.  I did an update on the Unknown Media
>> Changer in the Device Manager, and had it go out to the internet to find a
>> driver.  It now reports back as a Quantum PX500 Series Media Changer, but
>> still is only seen with two slots in EMC Networker.  I was going to try and
>> upgrade the EMC software this afternoon, but my boss wants to leave that as
>> a last resort.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Steve Kistenmacher <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Had a similar problem with quantum superloader  the unknown media
>>> changer with MS driver is the way it should show up, problem we had was
>>> software EMC power path the backup software (BE12 uses its own drivers for
>>> tape drive)  wasn't able to access the device to create the needed robotic
>>> library.
>>>  --
>>>
>>> *From:* Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:18 PM
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Networker and Quantum Scalar Problem
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version:
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
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>> Systems/Network Administrator
>>
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>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/josephfoxjr
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Weird OT: Old Solaris software

2008-05-30 Thread Phillip Partipilo
Weird one.  I'm loathing the idea of dusting off one of our old Sun Slowaris
boxes sitting in the closet, but I'm presented with some binaries that
apparently only run on it. Figure theres some way to coerce it into running
on a regular x86 box whether its win32 or linux (x64)?  I bet this is the
furthest shot in the dark possible, since it's a totally different
architecture.  (Jeez please don't make me dust off those pieces of rubbish)

 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 



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RE: Pause user access to a file server

2008-05-30 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Any idea how this might effect a robocopy session, if the session starts *from* 
the server that has the service paused, it won't be a problem I presume?
Thanks!
jlc

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Pause user access to a file server

Could pause the server service after you made a connection (s) to other 
servers. AS needed.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505
-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Pause user access to a file server

I was trying to do this without preventing that server's ability to copy data 
to a another server.
Anyone know which service to pause to facilitate this?

Thanks!
jlc







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Re: Networker and Quantum Scalar Problem

2008-05-30 Thread Kevin Lundy
If I recall, you also have to license the number of slots in Networker.
Just having an autoloader licensed isn't enough.  It's been a long time
though since we did the licensing, so YMMV.

For example, we have a 512 slot library.  Networker is only licences for
256.  guess how many it "sees"?  256.

Our library is an ADIC - now owned by Quantum.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Joe Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just an update on this problem.  I did an update on the Unknown Media
> Changer in the Device Manager, and had it go out to the internet to find a
> driver.  It now reports back as a Quantum PX500 Series Media Changer, but
> still is only seen with two slots in EMC Networker.  I was going to try and
> upgrade the EMC software this afternoon, but my boss wants to leave that as
> a last resort.
>
> Thanks
> Joe
>
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Steve Kistenmacher <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  Had a similar problem with quantum superloader  the unknown media
>> changer with MS driver is the way it should show up, problem we had was
>> software EMC power path the backup software (BE12 uses its own drivers for
>> tape drive)  wasn't able to access the device to create the needed robotic
>> library.
>>  --
>>
>> *From:* Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:18 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Networker and Quantum Scalar Problem
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version:
>> 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1473 - Release Date: 5/29/2008 7:53 PM
>
>
>
>
>  --
> Joe Fox
> Systems/Network Administrator
>
> Mobile# (716) 846-9308
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/josephfoxjr
>
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RE: Recent problems with hardware

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
Referencing #2, I have that same problem with a Dell SC400 Server with
Sata drives.

What did you use to recover the data?

Tom
 

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recent problems with hardware

In light of some of the recent hardware-related oddities posted here,
I thought I'd share two of my own more annoying recent discoveries in
the past 6 months:

1. Dell Optiplex GX520's have a motherboard problem. The system will
shut itself off, leaving the user only with an amber flashing power
button light.  The motherboard needs to be replaced to correct this
issue. My show has many of these PC's, and it has happened to 4 so
far. This starts are a very infrequent annoyance that becomes more
frequent over time - resulting in not being able to keep the system on
for more than 60 seconds between occurrences.  It appears to me to be
a heat sensor problem, but I don't have confirmation on that.

2.  I don't have a manufacturer commonality for this one, but it
appears to be specific to Serial-ATA. The problem/cause is still
unknown to me, but the result is partition corruption that makes the
drive unreadable without special utilities that can read raw data.
Twice this happened to the same HDD.  The other other two instances
were different HDD's from different computers. In each case the
partition info could be reconstructed.  It has happened to my own
system at home as well as user systems at work.  The only commonality
was that there were all Windows XP systems.

These are just some things to have recall for if you run into similar
oddities.  That is all.

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RE: Pause user access to a file server

2008-05-30 Thread Ziots, Edward
Could pause the server service after you made a connection (s) to other
servers. AS needed. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Pause user access to a file server

 

I was trying to do this without preventing that server's ability to copy
data to a another server.
Anyone know which service to pause to facilitate this?

 

Thanks!
jlc 

 

 

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Re: Networker and Quantum Scalar Problem

2008-05-30 Thread Joe Fox
Just an update on this problem.  I did an update on the Unknown Media
Changer in the Device Manager, and had it go out to the internet to find a
driver.  It now reports back as a Quantum PX500 Series Media Changer, but
still is only seen with two slots in EMC Networker.  I was going to try and
upgrade the EMC software this afternoon, but my boss wants to leave that as
a last resort.

Thanks
Joe

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Steve Kistenmacher <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Had a similar problem with quantum superloader  the unknown media changer
> with MS driver is the way it should show up, problem we had was software EMC
> power path the backup software (BE12 uses its own drivers for tape drive)
>  wasn't able to access the device to create the needed robotic library.
>  --
>
> *From:* Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:18 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Networker and Quantum Scalar Problem
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100
> / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1473 - Release Date: 5/29/2008 7:53 PM




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Re: Recent problems with hardware

2008-05-30 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Aww, this is asscoiated with the capacitor issue?  I didnt think to
connect those dots...

Whoa.. interesting story if true!


On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:42 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #1 is a known problem.  Do a Google search for leaky or bulging capacitors
> on Dell Optiplex machines...
>
> We've had that happen on 3 of ours.  Dell replaced two of them (they were
> still under warranty, but they've been known to replace them even on
> out-of-warranty systems).
>
> The third was one purchased and "modified" by NEC.  Our NEC vendor
> scrounged up a similar system which may or may not fail at any time (it's
> our voice mail system).  Less than 2 months, and we're rid of NEC!!!
>
> Intersting story of industrial espionage...  An electronics company broke
> into the databases of a rival to steal their capacitor electrolyte
> formula.  They stole one their competitor was not using as they knew it
> would result in failing capacitors.  The bad guys thought they had the
> good formula and sold millions of them to MB manufacturers, including MBs
> used by Dell.
> --
> Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
> ASPCA Knowledge Management
> 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
> 217-337-9761
> http://www.aspca.org
>
>
> "Micheal Espinola Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/30/2008
> 12:34:40 PM:
>
>> In light of some of the recent hardware-related oddities posted here,
>> I thought I'd share two of my own more annoying recent discoveries in
>> the past 6 months:
>>
>> 1. Dell Optiplex GX520's have a motherboard problem. The system will
>> shut itself off, leaving the user only with an amber flashing power
>> button light.  The motherboard needs to be replaced to correct this
>> issue. My show has many of these PC's, and it has happened to 4 so
>> far. This starts are a very infrequent annoyance that becomes more
>> frequent over time - resulting in not being able to keep the system on
>> for more than 60 seconds between occurrences.  It appears to me to be
>> a heat sensor problem, but I don't have confirmation on that.
>>
>> 2.  I don't have a manufacturer commonality for this one, but it
>> appears to be specific to Serial-ATA. The problem/cause is still
>> unknown to me, but the result is partition corruption that makes the
>> drive unreadable without special utilities that can read raw data.
>> Twice this happened to the same HDD.  The other other two instances
>> were different HDD's from different computers. In each case the
>> partition info could be reconstructed.  It has happened to my own
>> system at home as well as user systems at work.  The only commonality
>> was that there were all Windows XP systems.
>>
>> These are just some things to have recall for if you run into similar
>> oddities.  That is all.
>>
>> --
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Pause user access to a file server

2008-05-30 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I was trying to do this without preventing that server's ability to copy data 
to a another server.
Anyone know which service to pause to facilitate this?

Thanks!
jlc

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Re: Recent problems with hardware

2008-05-30 Thread Sean Martin
We had a large problem with our Dell Optiplex SX270s blowing capacitors on
the motherboard preventing the systems from powering on. I don't have an
exact number but I'm sure we replaced 50+ due to the issue. I believe Dell
indicated they had a large batch of faulty mother boards, which is
believable as we still have quite a few SX270s running without issue. This
was of course a couple of years ago as we're now deploying the Optiplex 745s
and newer...

- Sean


On 5/30/08, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In light of some of the recent hardware-related oddities posted here,
> I thought I'd share two of my own more annoying recent discoveries in
> the past 6 months:
>
> 1. Dell Optiplex GX520's have a motherboard problem. The system will
> shut itself off, leaving the user only with an amber flashing power
> button light.  The motherboard needs to be replaced to correct this
> issue. My show has many of these PC's, and it has happened to 4 so
> far. This starts are a very infrequent annoyance that becomes more
> frequent over time - resulting in not being able to keep the system on
> for more than 60 seconds between occurrences.  It appears to me to be
> a heat sensor problem, but I don't have confirmation on that.
>
> 2.  I don't have a manufacturer commonality for this one, but it
> appears to be specific to Serial-ATA. The problem/cause is still
> unknown to me, but the result is partition corruption that makes the
> drive unreadable without special utilities that can read raw data.
> Twice this happened to the same HDD.  The other other two instances
> were different HDD's from different computers. In each case the
> partition info could be reconstructed.  It has happened to my own
> system at home as well as user systems at work.  The only commonality
> was that there were all Windows XP systems.
>
> These are just some things to have recall for if you run into similar
> oddities.  That is all.
>
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Re: Recent problems with hardware

2008-05-30 Thread RichardMcClary
#1 is a known problem.  Do a Google search for leaky or bulging capacitors 
on Dell Optiplex machines...

We've had that happen on 3 of ours.  Dell replaced two of them (they were 
still under warranty, but they've been known to replace them even on 
out-of-warranty systems).

The third was one purchased and "modified" by NEC.  Our NEC vendor 
scrounged up a similar system which may or may not fail at any time (it's 
our voice mail system).  Less than 2 months, and we're rid of NEC!!!

Intersting story of industrial espionage...  An electronics company broke 
into the databases of a rival to steal their capacitor electrolyte 
formula.  They stole one their competitor was not using as they knew it 
would result in failing capacitors.  The bad guys thought they had the 
good formula and sold millions of them to MB manufacturers, including MBs 
used by Dell.
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Micheal Espinola Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/30/2008 
12:34:40 PM:

> In light of some of the recent hardware-related oddities posted here,
> I thought I'd share two of my own more annoying recent discoveries in
> the past 6 months:
> 
> 1. Dell Optiplex GX520's have a motherboard problem. The system will
> shut itself off, leaving the user only with an amber flashing power
> button light.  The motherboard needs to be replaced to correct this
> issue. My show has many of these PC's, and it has happened to 4 so
> far. This starts are a very infrequent annoyance that becomes more
> frequent over time - resulting in not being able to keep the system on
> for more than 60 seconds between occurrences.  It appears to me to be
> a heat sensor problem, but I don't have confirmation on that.
> 
> 2.  I don't have a manufacturer commonality for this one, but it
> appears to be specific to Serial-ATA. The problem/cause is still
> unknown to me, but the result is partition corruption that makes the
> drive unreadable without special utilities that can read raw data.
> Twice this happened to the same HDD.  The other other two instances
> were different HDD's from different computers. In each case the
> partition info could be reconstructed.  It has happened to my own
> system at home as well as user systems at work.  The only commonality
> was that there were all Windows XP systems.
> 
> These are just some things to have recall for if you run into similar
> oddities.  That is all.
> 
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Recent problems with hardware

2008-05-30 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
In light of some of the recent hardware-related oddities posted here,
I thought I'd share two of my own more annoying recent discoveries in
the past 6 months:

1. Dell Optiplex GX520's have a motherboard problem. The system will
shut itself off, leaving the user only with an amber flashing power
button light.  The motherboard needs to be replaced to correct this
issue. My show has many of these PC's, and it has happened to 4 so
far. This starts are a very infrequent annoyance that becomes more
frequent over time - resulting in not being able to keep the system on
for more than 60 seconds between occurrences.  It appears to me to be
a heat sensor problem, but I don't have confirmation on that.

2.  I don't have a manufacturer commonality for this one, but it
appears to be specific to Serial-ATA. The problem/cause is still
unknown to me, but the result is partition corruption that makes the
drive unreadable without special utilities that can read raw data.
Twice this happened to the same HDD.  The other other two instances
were different HDD's from different computers. In each case the
partition info could be reconstructed.  It has happened to my own
system at home as well as user systems at work.  The only commonality
was that there were all Windows XP systems.

These are just some things to have recall for if you run into similar
oddities.  That is all.

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Word crashes - fixed?

2008-05-30 Thread RichardMcClary
Greetings!

After trying numerous hints regarding a specific combination of 
user+computer causing Word 2003 to crash...

This user could use Word on any other computer; other folks could use Word 
on her computer; Word would crash whenever she tried to start it on her 
own...

As she has a roaming profile, I finally simply deleted the cached profile 
on her machine.  She is having to re-configure a few things (like Lotus 
Notes and Sametime), but at least Word is finally launching!

Thank you all for your hints and suggestions!
--
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ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


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Re: (now OT) RE: Support fee

2008-05-30 Thread Klint Price - ArizonaITPro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a good group to join.

btw, I agree with your pricing model. It's what makes the American Dream 
possible, causes competition, creates opportunities, fosters innovation, 
and in the long term causes better service.

David Lum wrote:
>
> I thought you were addressing me, but wasn't sure J.  The gig in 
> question is a small local government client and I actually pride 
> myself in being able to come in cheaper than they budget for (yes they 
> actually tell me what their IT budget is and include me in budgeting 
> talks) year to year. Making $20K/year on about 6 hours/week (remote 
> work is 25% cheaper for them) is a pretty sweet deal and is more than 
> a minimum wage job at 40hrs/week ($16.2K/yr currently in Oregon). 
> Between my level of service and my 
> probably-lower-than-what-they-would-pay prices pretty much guarantees 
> nobody will come along and take that client from me...
>
>  
>
> A nice benefit is due to the excellent working relationship with them 
> on any single given month I could add ~$1,000 of incomethere's 
> always SOMETHING that can be done. It also helps that all that work is 
> my "secondary" income as NWEA here is my 40hr/week job, so I don't 
> need to optimize my personal business' income.
>
>  
>
> Is there a mailing list that discusses the small business side of IT? 
> I'm sure this isn't the correct forum...
>
>  
>
> */Dave Lum/*  - Systems Engineer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
> /"../remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by 
> riding the back of the tiger ended up inside/"//  - JFK///
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* R. Mac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:20 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Support fee
>
>  
>
> Sorry Dave Lum,
>I was speaking in response to your 420 p/sys-p/year. But I 
> retract my comment about bringing down the market seeing that its just 
> 2-3 calls per day average. But if you take your 420 p/sys-p/year for 
> total number of machines (47) you get just under 20k (19.74). In my 
> example if 2-3 calls a day = 1 hour per day w/252 business days a year 
> you can gross a couple extra thousand. 22.6k. (and that is excluding 
> any extra off hour or holiday numbers but i am not sure if you have 
> any of that factored into your math either) but still a nice gig you have.
>
> Regards,
>
> Roy MacDonald
>  
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 1:27 PM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>
> Which David are you talking to?
>
>  
>
> */Dave Lum/*  - Systems Engineer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - (971)-222-1025
> /"../remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by 
> riding the back of the tiger ended up inside/"//  - JFK/
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* R. Mac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:30 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Support fee
>
>  
>
> David,
>  Your bringing the market down with the crazy accounting you 
> got going on.$90hr minimum with a 2 hour minimum for on-site work. 
> Toss in a one way travel fee (unless the customer establishes a 
> retainer account with you usually min of 2k) Plus a 30 min per phone 
> call fee. (first 2 free if you like the client)
>
> Just my 2 cents~!
>
> Roy MacDonald
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Jim Majorowicz 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> David, with that kind of volume it sounds like you need to hire an 
> on-site support tech unless your contract renewal is less than $3K a 
> month.  Even at 15-min a call, that's 2-3 hours a day.  That's $300 a 
> day at our "Good Customer" support rate in PDX, by the time you add in 
> the server and onsite support, you've got to be looking at a $6K/mo 
> bill.  You telling me you can't find a reasonably compitant support 
> tech for less than $25/hr plus bennifits?  Hell, you could probably 
> get a recient ITT grad for $20-$22 and he'd be glad for the job
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Liu, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:09 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Support fee
>
>  
>
> A day,
>
> I wish it were per month :)
> David Liu
> Answering from my blackberry. I'm on the move
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: NT System Admin Issues  >
> Sent: Wed May 28 09:06:43 2008
> Subject: RE: Support fee
>
> A day? A week? A month?
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> MCSE/Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Liu, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:53 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Support fee
>
> Average 8-12 calls.  
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 

Re: Deny Login if not secure

2008-05-30 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Just a note in terms of custom scripting etc: Check for key file(s)
existance, service existance, service set to automatic, and service is
running.

If not *all* conditions are true, you have a security  problem that is
indicative of malware.

On 5/29/08, Steve Kelsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a GPO setting or script that can refuse to allow a logon if a
> file (antivirus file) is not installed?
>
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(now OT) RE: Support fee

2008-05-30 Thread David Lum
I thought you were addressing me, but wasn't sure J.  The gig in
question is a small local government client and I actually pride myself
in being able to come in cheaper than they budget for (yes they actually
tell me what their IT budget is and include me in budgeting talks) year
to year. Making $20K/year on about 6 hours/week (remote work is 25%
cheaper for them) is a pretty sweet deal and is more than a minimum wage
job at 40hrs/week ($16.2K/yr currently in Oregon). Between my level of
service and my probably-lower-than-what-they-would-pay prices pretty
much guarantees nobody will come along and take that client from me...

 

A nice benefit is due to the excellent working relationship with them on
any single given month I could add ~$1,000 of incomethere's always
SOMETHING that can be done. It also helps that all that work is my
"secondary" income as NWEA here is my 40hr/week job, so I don't need to
optimize my personal business' income.

 

Is there a mailing list that discusses the small business side of IT?
I'm sure this isn't the correct forum...

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by
riding the back of the tiger ended up inside"  - JFK

 

 

From: R. Mac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Support fee

 

Sorry Dave Lum, 
   I was speaking in response to your 420 p/sys-p/year. But I
retract my comment about bringing down the market seeing that its just
2-3 calls per day average. But if you take your 420 p/sys-p/year for
total number of machines (47) you get just under 20k (19.74). In my
example if 2-3 calls a day = 1 hour per day w/252 business days a year
you can gross a couple extra thousand. 22.6k. (and that is excluding any
extra off hour or holiday numbers but i am not sure if you have any of
that factored into your math either) but still a nice gig you have.

Regards,

Roy MacDonald
 

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 1:27 PM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Which David are you talking to?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by
riding the back of the tiger ended up inside"  - JFK

 

 

 

From: R. Mac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:30 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Support fee

 

David,
 Your bringing the market down with the crazy accounting you got
going on.$90hr minimum with a 2 hour minimum for on-site work. Toss
in a one way travel fee (unless the customer establishes a retainer
account with you usually min of 2k) Plus a 30 min per phone call fee.
(first 2 free if you like the client)

Just my 2 cents~!

Roy MacDonald

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Jim Majorowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

David, with that kind of volume it sounds like you need to hire an
on-site support tech unless your contract renewal is less than $3K a
month.  Even at 15-min a call, that's 2-3 hours a day.  That's $300 a
day at our "Good Customer" support rate in PDX, by the time you add in
the server and onsite support, you've got to be looking at a $6K/mo
bill.  You telling me you can't find a reasonably compitant support tech
for less than $25/hr plus bennifits?  Hell, you could probably get a
recient ITT grad for $20-$22 and he'd be glad for the job

 

 

From: Liu, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Support fee

 

A day,

I wish it were per month :)
David Liu
Answering from my blackberry. I'm on the move

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed May 28 09:06:43 2008
Subject: RE: Support fee

A day? A week? A month?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Liu, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Support fee

Average 8-12 calls.  

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:21 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Support fee
>
> I would want to know how many calls.
>
> Depending on the userbase, 40 people can either consume almost-none of
> my
> time or 100% of my time.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> MCSE/Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Liu, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:04 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Support fee
>
> A question for the consultants/support for-hire folks out there:
>
> What's the ballpark monthly fee you wd charge for a userbase of 40 in
> California (30 PC/10 Macs) , 90% desktop support + level one call
> fielding, 10% light maintenance on 3 Windows File Server, 1 DC, 1
Print
> Server  (e..g 

RE: VOIP Vendor Question...

2008-05-30 Thread Chyka, Robert
Michael,

That tone dialer was great...  i believe the pause on that was the
asterisk key...nice memories...red box..

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VOIP Vendor Question...

Being an old-school telco aficionado, I find this rather surprising.

My circa 1989 Radio Shack tone-dialer that I hacked into a "redbox"
could handle pauses - yet a modern day PBX cant?  lolz

Curious of wt* I'm talking about?
   http://www.phonelosers.org/redbox/tonedialer/


On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Phil Brutsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> It's common with PBXs based on Asterisk.
>
> There are frequently features missing or incorrectly implemented -
it's
> not necessarily any different from the major commercial offerings, but
> the missing/incorrectly implemented features are more likely to be in
> the core feature set that EVERYONE needs.
>
> Micheal Espinola Jr wrote:
>> wow... in this day and age?  thats very surprising!
>
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RE: Batteries for UPS

2008-05-30 Thread RichardMcClary
Thanks, but umpteen others told me to try the same specific vendor.  They 
don't include the nice recycling mailer like APC, but hey, if I know 
exactly what the battery is and APC doesn't want to play nicely, then I'll 
buy the battery elsewhere.

Like I'd mentioned, I bought a dozen from one vendor, but at least 3/12 
turned out to not take a charge when needed.

Thanks again...
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"John Hornbuckle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/29/2008 
01:57:51 PM:

> Well, that's why I was asking for the specific, full model number of the
> UPS you need batteries for--I was going to look and see if I had any
> better luck finding them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:52 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Batteries for UPS
> 
> Thanks, but that battery isn't even close...
> --
> Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
> ASPCA Knowledge Management
> 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
> 217-337-9761
> http://www.aspca.org
> 
> 
> "John Hornbuckle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/29/2008
> 
> 01:45:35 PM:
> 
> > I always go to APC's website to get the part number of the replacement
> > battery, then e-mail my rep at GovConnection with that number so he
> can
> > send me a quote. But we don't use the ES product line.
> > 
> > What's the actual product number of your units (BE500, BE500C, etc.)?
> Is
> > it BE550R? APC's website shows no replacement battery for that model,
> > but it does have replacements for some of the 500v ES line (for
> example,
> > the BE500 uses RBC46).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > John Hornbuckle
> > MIS Department
> > Taylor County School District
> > 318 North Clark Street
> > Perry, FL 32347
> > 
> > www.taylor.k12.fl.us
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:34 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Batteries for UPS
> > 
> > OK, we have a number of APC Back-UP 500 ES and 550 ES UPS units.
> Their 
> > battery, if one peels away the otherwise useless lable, says 12v 7.2
> Ah.
> > 
> > It's a wee bit under 6" long, 3.75: high, and 2.5" wide.  Both spade 
> > terminals are at one end...
> > 
> > Although the 550 ES is currently being sold, APC's web site, depending
> > on 
> > its mood, says either no replacement battery is available or to use 
> > RBC-110.  (Of coarse, they then claim RBC-110 does not exist!)
> > 
> > CDW, who just sold us some more 550 ES units this week, claims there
> is
> > no 
> > replacement battery.
> > 
> > One more thing - a couple of years ago we bought some non-APC
> batteries,
> > 
> > 17v, 8 Ah, and many in that shippment were dead on arrival.
> > 
> > Before I become [more] profane, where does one get a battery to
> replace
> > in 
> > those things
> > 
> > THanks!
> > --
> > Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
> > ASPCA Knowledge Management
> > 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
> > 217-337-9761
> > http://www.aspca.org
> > 
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