RE: IPhone 3g

[Brian Desmond]

This is a fairly common policy in my experience.

Exchange 2010 has some stuff to help control use of unwanted devices.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

We do allow this, but use require compliance with Exchange policies on PINs, 
remote wipe, encryption etc.

Cheers
Ken


From: Rod Trent [rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
Sync personal phones with corporate data...

Never thought I'd hear that phrase.

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

I asked if anyone on the Exchange list had any experience with the sybase 
solution, no responses.

I'm looking at evaluating it since it will allow us to segment and control 
corporate data away from personal data.  It works with WinMo too.. This will 
allow us to allow our associates to use their personal phones and sync to 
corporate data.  The one scary thing about sybase is it costs more than my BB 
infrastructure on a per user basis.  I'll hopefully get approval to proceed 
with my study/POC.



From: Andy Ognenoff [andyognen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

I'm curious how these 2 products will change things for iPhone in the 
enterprise:



http://good.com/corp/int_products.php?id=good_mobile_control_iphone&pid=good_for_enterprise



http://www.sybase.com/products/mobileenterprise/iphone





 - Andy O.



>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:01 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>Security is the primary issue.  There's no security on P2P connections

>through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people in

>range, but bad for "losing" company data in the same data stream.

>

>And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another

>security

>area.

>

>iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.

>

>iPhones are chained to iTunes.  iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.  Who

>really wants your users loading up "shake the baby" on business devices?

>

>There's currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from

>app

>installations to remote wipe for stolen units.

>

>Others...

>

>From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features

>does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

>

>Andrew Greene

>IS Technician / Webmaster

>City of Anderson

>

>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS

>is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never

>catered

>to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their

>products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely

>tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer

>and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not

>provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are

>certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)

>will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

>

>Watch your phone bill.

>

>From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security features?

>;-)

>Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security

>practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

>That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter

>of

>getting what you pay for.

>TVK





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Ken Schaefer]

We do allow this, but use require compliance with Exchange policies on PINs, 
remote wipe, encryption etc.

Cheers
Ken


From: Rod Trent [rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Sync personal phones with corporate data…

Never thought I’d hear that phrase.

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

I asked if anyone on the Exchange list had any experience with the sybase 
solution, no responses.

I'm looking at evaluating it since it will allow us to segment and control 
corporate data away from personal data.  It works with WinMo too.. This will 
allow us to allow our associates to use their personal phones and sync to 
corporate data.  The one scary thing about sybase is it costs more than my BB 
infrastructure on a per user basis.  I'll hopefully get approval to proceed 
with my study/POC.



From: Andy Ognenoff [andyognen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

I'm curious how these 2 products will change things for iPhone in the 
enterprise:



http://good.com/corp/int_products.php?id=good_mobile_control_iphone&pid=good_for_enterprise



http://www.sybase.com/products/mobileenterprise/iphone





 - Andy O.



>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:01 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>Security is the primary issue.  There’s no security on P2P connections

>through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people in

>range, but bad for “losing” company data in the same data stream.

>

>And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another

>security

>area.

>

>iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.

>

>iPhones are chained to iTunes.  iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.  Who

>really wants your users loading up “shake the baby” on business devices?

>

>There’s currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from

>app

>installations to remote wipe for stolen units.

>

>Others…

>

>From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features

>does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

>

>Andrew Greene

>IS Technician / Webmaster

>City of Anderson

>

>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS

>is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never

>catered

>to businesses – no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their

>products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely

>tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer

>and business sectors.  They’ll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not

>provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are

>certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)

>will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

>

>Watch your phone bill.

>

>From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>I see, so really your just touting the iPhone’s lack of security features?

>;-)

>Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security

>practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

>That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter

>of

>getting what you pay for.

>TVK

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[Ken Schaefer]

Did you follow the steps here?
http://blogs.technet.com/jhoward/archive/2008/03/28/part-1-hyper-v-remote-management-you-do-not-have-the-requested-permission-to-complete-this-task-contact-the-administrator-of-the-authorization-policy-for-the-computer-computername.aspx

Cheers
Ken


From: Jon Harris [jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2009 4:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

We still can't connect to a non-domain Hyper-V Host what a pain.

Jon

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Christopher Bodnar 
mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>> wrote:

You followed these steps? Specifically steps 4-8 ???







1. On a computer that is running the RC release of Windows 7 RC, download the 
Remote Server Administration Tools for Windows 7 RC package from the Microsoft 
Download Center.

2. Open the folder into which the package downloaded, and double-click the 
package to unpack it, and then start the Remote Server Administration Tools for 
Windows 7 RC Setup Wizard.

Important: You must accept the License Terms and Limited Warranty to start to 
install the Administration Tools pack.

3. Complete all the steps that you must follow by the wizard, and then click 
Finish to exit the wizard when installation is completed.

4. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click Programs.

5. In the Programs and Features area, click Turn Windows features on or off.

6. If you are prompted by User Account Control to enable the Windows Features 
dialog box to open, click Continue.

7. In the Windows Features dialog box, expand Remote Server Administration 
Tools.

8. Select the remote management tools that you want to install.

9. Click OK.



Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003



From: marv...@gmail.com 
[mailto:marv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:07 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1



Looks like the same one I posted and when installed nothing appears in Admin 
Tools. Am I missing somthing?

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jon Harris 
mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com>> wrote:

David saved me the looking for it.  I just need to load it in my test bed to 
see what it looks like.  Does it give us more capability or about the same?



Jon

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com>> wrote:

Nope. It’s not even the same as the one for Window 7 Beta.

TVK



From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:43 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1



Is it the same as Vista RSAT?



Jon

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com>> wrote:

Yes I have. Just search for Windows 7 RC1 RSAT, it works great!

TVK



From: MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1



Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7 RC1 for 
a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86 but I don't 
see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system crashed and needed 
repairing.

Any responses apprecitated.





































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RE: MountedDevices

[Carl Houseman]

WMI and Win32_DiskDrive.  Scriptomatic is your friend.

 

Carl

 

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MountedDevices

 

He guys,

I was trying to write a script to enumerate the disk sig on a drive that
gets mounted by looking in HKLM\SYSTEM\MountedDevices but it seems that gets
populated and stays populated.

Anyone know how to enumerate the sig on only what _is_ mounted, so when a
disk is unmounted that sig wont be present?

 

Thanks!
jlc

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[Carl Houseman]

Join it to the domain . Workgroup Hyper-V Servers are nearly impossible to
reasonably manage.

 

Carl

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

 

We still can't connect to a non-domain Hyper-V Host what a pain.

 

Jon

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Christopher Bodnar
 wrote:

You followed these steps? Specifically steps 4-8 ???

 

 

 

1. On a computer that is running the RC release of Windows 7 RC, download
the Remote Server Administration Tools for Windows 7 RC package from the
Microsoft Download Center.

2. Open the folder into which the package downloaded, and double-click the
package to unpack it, and then start the Remote Server Administration Tools
for Windows 7 RC Setup Wizard.

Important: You must accept the License Terms and Limited Warranty to start
to install the Administration Tools pack.

3. Complete all the steps that you must follow by the wizard, and then click
Finish to exit the wizard when installation is completed.

4. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click Programs.

5. In the Programs and Features area, click Turn Windows features on or off.

6. If you are prompted by User Account Control to enable the Windows
Features dialog box to open, click Continue.

7. In the Windows Features dialog box, expand Remote Server Administration
Tools.

8. Select the remote management tools that you want to install.

9. Click OK.

 

Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003

  _  

From: marv...@gmail.com [mailto:marv...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:07 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

 

Looks like the same one I posted and when installed nothing appears in Admin
Tools. Am I missing somthing?

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:

David saved me the looking for it.  I just need to load it in my test bed to
see what it looks like.  Does it give us more capability or about the same?

 

Jon

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
wrote:

Nope. It's not even the same as the one for Window 7 Beta.

TVK

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:43 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

 

Is it the same as Vista RSAT?

 

Jon

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
wrote:

Yes I have. Just search for Windows 7 RC1 RSAT, it works great!

TVK

 

From: MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

 

Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7 RC1
for a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86 but I
don't see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system crashed and
needed repairing. 

Any responses apprecitated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law.
If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are
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this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail
and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Barsodi.John]

haha...neither did I and I'm not for it. I can only imagine the type of calls 
that will hit the helpdesk.

I have to do what I am told though.

I would expect to see more of this though, if you can segment corp data and 
personal data securely, why not?  Company isn't footing the bill for the 
service and device... saves the company in the long run.


From: Rod Trent [rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Sync personal phones with corporate data…

Never thought I’d hear that phrase.

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

I asked if anyone on the Exchange list had any experience with the sybase 
solution, no responses.

I'm looking at evaluating it since it will allow us to segment and control 
corporate data away from personal data.  It works with WinMo too.. This will 
allow us to allow our associates to use their personal phones and sync to 
corporate data.  The one scary thing about sybase is it costs more than my BB 
infrastructure on a per user basis.  I'll hopefully get approval to proceed 
with my study/POC.



From: Andy Ognenoff [andyognen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

I'm curious how these 2 products will change things for iPhone in the 
enterprise:



http://good.com/corp/int_products.php?id=good_mobile_control_iphone&pid=good_for_enterprise



http://www.sybase.com/products/mobileenterprise/iphone





 - Andy O.



>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:01 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>Security is the primary issue.  There’s no security on P2P connections

>through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people in

>range, but bad for “losing” company data in the same data stream.

>

>And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another

>security

>area.

>

>iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.

>

>iPhones are chained to iTunes.  iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.  Who

>really wants your users loading up “shake the baby” on business devices?

>

>There’s currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from

>app

>installations to remote wipe for stolen units.

>

>Others…

>

>From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features

>does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

>

>Andrew Greene

>IS Technician / Webmaster

>City of Anderson

>

>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS

>is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never

>catered

>to businesses – no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their

>products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely

>tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer

>and business sectors.  They’ll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not

>provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are

>certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)

>will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

>

>Watch your phone bill.

>

>From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>I see, so really your just touting the iPhone’s lack of security features?

>;-)

>Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security

>practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

>That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter

>of

>getting what you pay for.

>TVK

>

>From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the

>CA

>Cert.

>

>

>From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I

>hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then

>you’ve

>got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,

>depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.

>TVK

>

>From: Steve Ens [mailto:

MountedDevices

[Joseph L. Casale]

He guys,
I was trying to write a script to enumerate the disk sig on a drive that gets 
mounted by looking in HKLM\SYSTEM\MountedDevices but it seems that gets 
populated and stays populated.

Anyone know how to enumerate the sig on only what _is_ mounted, so when a disk 
is unmounted that sig wont be present?

Thanks!
jlc

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Rod Trent]

Sync personal phones with corporate data.

 

Never thought I'd hear that phrase.

 

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I asked if anyone on the Exchange list had any experience with the sybase
solution, no responses.

 

I'm looking at evaluating it since it will allow us to segment and control
corporate data away from personal data.  It works with WinMo too.. This will
allow us to allow our associates to use their personal phones and sync to
corporate data.  The one scary thing about sybase is it costs more than my
BB infrastructure on a per user basis.  I'll hopefully get approval to
proceed with my study/POC.

 

 

  _  

From: Andy Ognenoff [andyognen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

I'm curious how these 2 products will change things for iPhone in the
enterprise:

 

http://good.com/corp/int_products.php?id=good_mobile_control_iphone
 &pid=good_for_enterprise

 

http://www.sybase.com/products/mobileenterprise/iphone

 

 

 - Andy O.

 

>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:01 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>Security is the primary issue.  There's no security on P2P connections

>through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people in

>range, but bad for "losing" company data in the same data stream.

> 

>And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another

>security

>area.

> 

>iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.

> 

>iPhones are chained to iTunes.  iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.  Who

>really wants your users loading up "shake the baby" on business devices?

> 

>There's currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from

>app

>installations to remote wipe for stolen units.

> 

>Others.

> 

>From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features

>does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

> 

>Andrew Greene

>IS Technician / Webmaster

>City of Anderson

> 

>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS

>is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never

>catered

>to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their

>products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely

>tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer

>and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not

>provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are

>certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)

>will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

> 

>Watch your phone bill.

> 

>From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security features?

>;-)

>Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security

>practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

>That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter

>of

>getting what you pay for.

>TVK

> 

>From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the

>CA

>Cert.

> 

>

>From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I

>hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then

>you've

>got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,

>depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.

>TVK

> 

>From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

> 

>That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So

>those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

>On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

>Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server

>than

>our Windows Mobile Phones.

> 

>

RE: IPhone 3g

[Rod Trent]

Good to know.

 

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

For those who thought otherwise, Remote Wipe from ActiveSync works perfectly
well on the iPhone, just as with Windows Mobile devices, ever since version
2.x.

 

- Sean

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

Nice tip, again.

We actually use SalesLogix, I don't think they have anything yet.


-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

And you mentioned Salesforce in your list of 3rd Party apps...have you tried
Mobile Lite or Mobile from Salesforce.com on the iPhone? Pretty good
experience, I think.

I agree that building custom apps for industry needs to be cleaner though -
but now a days I build all our apps on Force.com so it won't really be an
issue for me. :)

 - Andy O.

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Wow, I am Good Customer, and stay active on their forums.  I had no idea
they released "Good Mobile Control for iPhone"
 
Good tip, thanks!


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Barsodi.John]

I asked if anyone on the Exchange list had any experience with the sybase 
solution, no responses.

I'm looking at evaluating it since it will allow us to segment and control 
corporate data away from personal data.  It works with WinMo too.. This will 
allow us to allow our associates to use their personal phones and sync to 
corporate data.  The one scary thing about sybase is it costs more than my BB 
infrastructure on a per user basis.  I'll hopefully get approval to proceed 
with my study/POC.



From: Andy Ognenoff [andyognen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 


I'm curious how these 2 products will change things for iPhone in the 
enterprise:



http://good.com/corp/int_products.php?id=good_mobile_control_iphone&pid=good_for_enterprise



http://www.sybase.com/products/mobileenterprise/iphone





 - Andy O.



>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:01 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>Security is the primary issue.  There’s no security on P2P connections

>through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people in

>range, but bad for “losing” company data in the same data stream.

>

>And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another

>security

>area.

>

>iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.

>

>iPhones are chained to iTunes.  iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.  Who

>really wants your users loading up “shake the baby” on business devices?

>

>There’s currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from

>app

>installations to remote wipe for stolen units.

>

>Others…

>

>From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features

>does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

>

>Andrew Greene

>IS Technician / Webmaster

>City of Anderson

>

>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS

>is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never

>catered

>to businesses – no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their

>products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely

>tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer

>and business sectors.  They’ll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not

>provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are

>certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)

>will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

>

>Watch your phone bill.

>

>From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>I see, so really your just touting the iPhone’s lack of security features?

>;-)

>Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security

>practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

>That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter

>of

>getting what you pay for.

>TVK

>

>From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>

>Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the

>CA

>Cert.

>

>

>From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I

>hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then

>you’ve

>got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,

>depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.

>TVK

>

>From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

>

>That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So

>those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

>On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

>Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server

>than

>our Windows Mobile Phones.

>

>

>From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM

>

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>Only if you have the app for it.

>

>From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]

>Sent: Wedne

Re: IPhone 3g

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I recommend iPhone roadwarriors get a battery pack like the 'Power
Slider' made by Incase:

   http://www.goincase.com/products/detail/power-slider-ec20009

My experience with it:  Excellent life extension, comfortable to hold,
easy to slide in/out of pockets, and it sustained a 3ft drop onto tile
at its corner edge and bounced a few times without scratch to the
iPhone or even the case itself.


--
ME2



On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Phillip Partipilo wrote:
> The ability to carry additional batteries is pretty important to many
> roadwarriors, so the ability to install them on-the-go without a microscope
> and toolkit is a pretty good feature.
>
> 3.0 fixed alot of issues that help business use (spotlight, landscape
> keyboard in more apps)
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
> Jupiter, Florida
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
> 
> From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:45 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
>
> Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
> does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?
>
>
>
> Andrew Greene
>
> IS Technician / Webmaster
>
> City of Anderson
>
>
>
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
>
>
>
> The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS
> is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never catered
> to businesses – no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their
> products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely
> tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer
> and business sectors.  They’ll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not
> provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are
> certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)
> will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.
>
>
>
> Watch your phone bill.
>
>
>
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
>
>
>
> I see, so really your just touting the iPhone’s lack of security features?
> ;-)
>
> Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
> practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.
>
> That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter of
> getting what you pay for.
>
> TVK
>
>
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
>
>
>
> Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the CA
> Cert.
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
>
> If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I
> hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then you’ve
> got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,
> depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.
>
> TVK
>
>
>
> From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 
>
>
>
> That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So
> those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:
>
> Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server than
> our Windows Mobile Phones.
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
>
> Only if you have the app for it.
>
>
>
> From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 
>
>
>
> I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:
>
> Hello All.
>
> The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
> be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
> our
> Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
> links to various docs, which I found useless.
>
> Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
> Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
> friendly
> side of our SonicWall firewall.
>
> I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
> process.
>
> Thanks a ton!
>
> Mark A. Ross
> (909) 946-2032
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint sec

Re: IPhone 3g

[Sean Martin]

For those who thought otherwise, Remote Wipe from ActiveSync works perfectly
well on the iPhone, just as with Windows Mobile devices, ever since version
2.x.

- Sean

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

> Nice tip, again.
>
> We actually use SalesLogix, I don't think they have anything yet.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:43 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
>
> And you mentioned Salesforce in your list of 3rd Party apps...have you
> tried Mobile Lite or Mobile from Salesforce.com on the iPhone? Pretty good
> experience, I think.
>
> I agree that building custom apps for industry needs to be cleaner though -
> but now a days I build all our apps on Force.com so it won't really be an
> issue for me. :)
>
>  - Andy O.
> 
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:34 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
>
> Wow, I am Good Customer, and stay active on their forums.  I had no idea
> they released "Good Mobile Control for iPhone"
>
> Good tip, thanks!
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <
> http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Sam Cayze]

Nice tip, again.

We actually use SalesLogix, I don't think they have anything yet. 

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

And you mentioned Salesforce in your list of 3rd Party apps...have you tried 
Mobile Lite or Mobile from Salesforce.com on the iPhone? Pretty good 
experience, I think.

I agree that building custom apps for industry needs to be cleaner though - but 
now a days I build all our apps on Force.com so it won't really be an issue for 
me. :)

 - Andy O. 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Wow, I am Good Customer, and stay active on their forums.  I had no idea they 
released "Good Mobile Control for iPhone"
 
Good tip, thanks!


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Andy Ognenoff]

And you mentioned Salesforce in your list of 3rd Party apps...have you tried
Mobile Lite or Mobile from Salesforce.com on the iPhone? Pretty good
experience, I think.

I agree that building custom apps for industry needs to be cleaner though -
but now a days I build all our apps on Force.com so it won’t really be an
issue for me. :)

 - Andy O. 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Wow, I am Good Customer, and stay active on their forums.  I had no idea
they released "Good Mobile Control for iPhone"
 
Good tip, thanks!


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Sam Cayze]

Wow, I am Good Customer, and stay active on their forums.  I had no idea
they released "Good Mobile Control for iPhone"
 
Good tip, thanks!



From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 



I'm curious how these 2 products will change things for iPhone in the
enterprise:

 

http://good.com/corp/int_products.php?id=good_mobile_control_iphone&pid=
good_for_enterprise

 

http://www.sybase.com/products/mobileenterprise/iphone

 

 

 - Andy O.

 

>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:01 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>Security is the primary issue.  There's no security on P2P connections

>through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people
in

>range, but bad for "losing" company data in the same data stream.

> 

>And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another

>security

>area.

> 

>iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.

> 

>iPhones are chained to iTunes.  iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.
Who

>really wants your users loading up "shake the baby" on business
devices?

> 

>There's currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise,
from

>app

>installations to remote wipe for stolen units.

> 

>Others...

> 

>From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which
features

>does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

> 

>Andrew Greene

>IS Technician / Webmaster

>City of Anderson

> 

>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while
the OS

>is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never

>catered

>to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their

>products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely

>tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both
consumer

>and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does
not

>provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there
are

>certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either
a)

>will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the
future.

> 

>Watch your phone bill.

> 

>From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security
features?

>;-)

>Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security

>practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

>That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a
matter

>of

>getting what you pay for.

>TVK

> 

>From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import
the

>CA

>Cert.

> 

>

>From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from
what I

>hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then

>you've

>got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,

>depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.

>TVK

> 

>From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

> 

>That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).
So

>those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

>On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

>Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server

>than

>our Windows Mobile Phones.

> 

>

>From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM

> 

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>Only if you have the app for it.

> 

>From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

> 

>I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

>On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 

>wrote:

> 

> 

>Hello All.

> 

>The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer
will

>be realized before I can get this "rock

RE: IPhone 3g

[Sam Cayze]

Well put.  and self-signed certificates are just as secure as $$$ ones.
It's just a measure for companies to make money. 



From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 


I don't know all the specifics, but you can lock down the iPhone using
tools provided by Apple.  In other words, a business can deploy it in a
fashion that isn't identical to buying one from Best Buy.  Specifically,
there is a remote wipe, and it has been there since version 2.0.  I am
not certain about limiting application purchases.  OS 3.0 offers
encryption, too.
 
I don't personally understand concern about signed certificates.  If the
certificate isn't trusted, it warns you and gives you the option to
continue.  It doesn't just blindly accept it.  If I'm setting it up for
my business, I know if I am using self-signed certificates, and I know
if the server I am connecting to is one I trust.  I am not sure how it
is more dangerous for users to be able to accept a self-signed
certificate than you get just from the internet in general--you don't
have to connect to an SSL site to get hosed.  Internet Explorer on
Windows does the same thing--it warns you about a self-signed
certificate and leaves you free to continue.  Is IE not "enterprise
ready"?
 
The way that single launch applications are handled on the iPhone,
combined with the new push notifications leaves me wondering what kind
of situation makes a lack of multitasking so problematic.  Applications
launch fast (very fast on the newest model) and come back just like you
left them.  Who cares that it wasn't running in the background, chewing
up battery, while I was doing something else?  Yes, there may be some
specific instances where this would be useful, but I don't see this
being an issue for the vast majority of situations.
 
 



From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 



Security is the primary issue.  There's no security on P2P connections
through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people
in range, but bad for "losing" company data in the same data stream.

 

And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another
security area.

 

iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.

 

iPhones are chained to iTunes.  iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.
Who really wants your users loading up "shake the baby" on business
devices?

 

There's currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from
app installations to remote wipe for stolen units.

 

Others...

 

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the
OS is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never
catered to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate
their products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been
severely tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in
both consumer and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0
still does not provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated
publicly that there are certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0
update that they either a) will still not support for a while, and b)
may cost extra in the future.

 

Watch your phone bill.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security
features? ;-)

Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a
matter of getting what you pay for.

TVK

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import
the CA Cert.

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what
I hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then
you've got someth

RE: IPhone 3g

[Rod Trent]

Good find!

 

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Funny I was just reading this article and then I looked at my email and see
it being discussed here,

 

 déjà vu all over again

 

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/062309-can-you-manage-an-iphone.html

 

 

 

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The ability to carry additional batteries is pretty important to many
roadwarriors, so the ability to install them on-the-go without a microscope
and toolkit is a pretty good feature. 

 

3.0 fixed alot of issues that help business use (spotlight, landscape
keyboard in more apps)

 

 

Phillip Partipilo

Parametric Solutions Inc.

Jupiter, Florida

(561) 747-6107

 

 

 

 

  _  

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS
is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never catered
to businesses – no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their
products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely
tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer
and business sectors.  They’ll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not
provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are
certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)
will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

 

Watch your phone bill.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone’s lack of security features?
;-)

Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter of
getting what you pay for.

TVK

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the CA
Cert.

 

  _  

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I
hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then you’ve
got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,
depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So
those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server than
our Windows Mobile Phones.

 

  _  

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  _  

If this email is spam, report it here:
 

RE: IPhone 3g

[Rod Trent]

Yep...still not there yet, but they're working on it.  How long did it take
MS to catch up with IE?  We should give Apple the benefit of the doubt -
they're in uncharted territory.  Though it does concern me somewhat that the
world is ga-ga over a phone whose features aren't quite caught up with the
rest of the world yet.  It's like rolling out a ball point pen and a spiral
ring notebook in a world of keyboards.


-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

I agree that it’s still a consumer device but they did make some progress
with OS 3.0 and the iPhone Config Utility 2.0.

http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobilize/can-you-manage-iphone-blackberry-609

 - Andy O. 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Security is the primary issue.  There’s no security on P2P connections
through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people in
range, but bad for “losing” company data in the same data stream.

And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another security
area.

iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.

iPhones are chained to iTunes.  iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.  Who
really wants your users loading up “shake the baby” on business devices?

There’s currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from app
installations to remote wipe for stolen units.

Others…

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

Andrew Greene
IS Technician / Webmaster
City of Anderson

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS
is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never catered
to businesses – no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their
products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely
tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer
and business sectors.  They’ll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not
provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are
certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)
will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

Watch your phone bill.

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone’s lack of security features?
;-)
Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.
That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter of
getting what you pay for.
TVK

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the CA
Cert.


From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I
hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then you’ve
got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,
depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.
TVK

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So
those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:
Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server than
our Windows Mobile Phones.


From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
Only if you have the app for it.
 
From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 
 
I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:


Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" t

RE: IPhone 3g

[Sam Cayze]

Good list.
 
To add:
 
No QWERTY.  Need more?
No Encryption.  Bye by Health Care and Finance industry, can't touch!
(Apple, wake up and smell the lost revenue there).
Costs.  My iPhone users pay DOUBLE per month for voice/data compared to
our other users on smartphones.
3rd party Custom Enterprise Applications (Industry Specific internal
apps, like SalesForce)
IT Management, complete lack of.
iTunes Enterprise Support/Deployment
Only a small subset of the Exchange ActiveSync is implemented.  (Can't
flag messages?  Seriously?  And I am not positive, but you can't send
out meeting requests, or something similar)
Lack of Multitasking.
No removable battery.  (I had 5 batteries for my last phone)
Remote Wipe (Although, I think they addressed this in 3.0)
 
Sam
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 



Security is the primary issue.  There's no security on P2P connections
through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people
in range, but bad for "losing" company data in the same data stream.

 

And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another
security area.

 

iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.

 

iPhones are chained to iTunes.  iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.
Who really wants your users loading up "shake the baby" on business
devices?

 

There's currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from
app installations to remote wipe for stolen units.

 

Others...

 

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the
OS is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never
catered to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate
their products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been
severely tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in
both consumer and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0
still does not provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated
publicly that there are certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0
update that they either a) will still not support for a while, and b)
may cost extra in the future.

 

Watch your phone bill.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security
features? ;-)

Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a
matter of getting what you pay for.

TVK

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import
the CA Cert.

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what
I hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then
you've got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45
seconds, depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your
thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).
So those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server
than our Windows Mobile Phones.

 



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 
wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will

RE: IPhone 3g

[Sam Cayze]

Yes, typing a big business tool ;)



From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 



Spotlight and landscape keyboard is a business tool?

 

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The ability to carry additional batteries is pretty important to many
roadwarriors, so the ability to install them on-the-go without a
microscope and toolkit is a pretty good feature. 

 

3.0 fixed alot of issues that help business use (spotlight, landscape
keyboard in more apps)

 

 

Phillip Partipilo

Parametric Solutions Inc.

Jupiter, Florida

(561) 747-6107

 

 

 

 



From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the
OS is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never
catered to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate
their products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been
severely tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in
both consumer and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0
still does not provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated
publicly that there are certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0
update that they either a) will still not support for a while, and b)
may cost extra in the future.

 

Watch your phone bill.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security
features? ;-)

Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a
matter of getting what you pay for.

TVK

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import
the CA Cert.

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what
I hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then
you've got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45
seconds, depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your
thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).
So those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server
than our Windows Mobile Phones.

 



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 
wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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RE: IPhone 3g

[Andy Ognenoff]

I'm curious how these 2 products will change things for iPhone in the
enterprise:

 

http://good.com/corp/int_products.php?id=good_mobile_control_iphone
 &pid=good_for_enterprise

 

http://www.sybase.com/products/mobileenterprise/iphone

 

 

 - Andy O.

 

>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:01 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>Security is the primary issue.  There's no security on P2P connections

>through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people in

>range, but bad for "losing" company data in the same data stream.

> 

>And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another

>security

>area.

> 

>iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.

> 

>iPhones are chained to iTunes.  iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.  Who

>really wants your users loading up "shake the baby" on business devices?

> 

>There's currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from

>app

>installations to remote wipe for stolen units.

> 

>Others.

> 

>From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features

>does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

> 

>Andrew Greene

>IS Technician / Webmaster

>City of Anderson

> 

>From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS

>is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never

>catered

>to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their

>products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely

>tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer

>and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not

>provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are

>certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)

>will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

> 

>Watch your phone bill.

> 

>From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security features?

>;-)

>Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security

>practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

>That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter

>of

>getting what you pay for.

>TVK

> 

>From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

> 

>Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the

>CA

>Cert.

> 

>

>From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I

>hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then

>you've

>got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,

>depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.

>TVK

> 

>From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

> 

>That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So

>those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

>On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

>Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server

>than

>our Windows Mobile Phones.

> 

>

>From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM

> 

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

>Only if you have the app for it.

> 

>From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM

>To: NT System Admin Issues

>Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

> 

>I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

>On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 

>wrote:

> 

> 

>Hello All.

> 

>The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will

>be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from

>our

>Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me

>links to various docs, which I found useless.

> 

>Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to c

RE: IPhone 3g

[Andy Ognenoff]

I agree that it’s still a consumer device but they did make some progress
with OS 3.0 and the iPhone Config Utility 2.0.

http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobilize/can-you-manage-iphone-blackberry-609

 - Andy O. 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Security is the primary issue.  There’s no security on P2P connections
through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people in
range, but bad for “losing” company data in the same data stream.

And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another security
area.

iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.

iPhones are chained to iTunes.  iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.  Who
really wants your users loading up “shake the baby” on business devices?

There’s currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from app
installations to remote wipe for stolen units.

Others…

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

Andrew Greene
IS Technician / Webmaster
City of Anderson

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS
is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never catered
to businesses – no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their
products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely
tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer
and business sectors.  They’ll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not
provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are
certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)
will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

Watch your phone bill.

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone’s lack of security features?
;-)
Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.
That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter of
getting what you pay for.
TVK

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the CA
Cert.


From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I
hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then you’ve
got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,
depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.
TVK

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So
those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:
Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server than
our Windows Mobile Phones.


From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
Only if you have the app for it.
 
From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 
 
I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:


Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~
 

RE: IPhone 3g

[Free, Bob]

Funny I was just reading this article and then I looked at my email and see it 
being discussed here,

 

 déjà vu all over again

 

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/062309-can-you-manage-an-iphone.html

 

 

 

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The ability to carry additional batteries is pretty important to many 
roadwarriors, so the ability to install them on-the-go without a microscope and 
toolkit is a pretty good feature. 

 

3.0 fixed alot of issues that help business use (spotlight, landscape keyboard 
in more apps)

 

 

Phillip Partipilo

Parametric Solutions Inc.

Jupiter, Florida

(561) 747-6107

 

 

 

 



From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features does 
the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS is 
at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never catered to 
businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their products.  
The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely tasked by the 
customer to produce something that can work in both consumer and business 
sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not provide everything. 
 In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are certain features of the 
iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a) will still not support for a 
while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

 

Watch your phone bill.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security features? ;-)

Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security 
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter of 
getting what you pay for.

TVK

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the CA 
Cert.

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I 
hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then you've 
got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds, depending 
on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So 
those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server than 
our Windows Mobile Phones.

 



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



If this email is spam, report it here:
http://www.OnlyMyEmail.com/ReportSpam 

RE: IPhone 3g

[Phillip Partipilo]

Well, I'm not really sure if there was the ability to search your emails
before they added spotlight.
 
 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 
 

  _  

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 



Spotlight and landscape keyboard is a business tool?

 

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The ability to carry additional batteries is pretty important to many
roadwarriors, so the ability to install them on-the-go without a microscope
and toolkit is a pretty good feature. 

 

3.0 fixed alot of issues that help business use (spotlight, landscape
keyboard in more apps)

 

 

Phillip Partipilo

Parametric Solutions Inc.

Jupiter, Florida

(561) 747-6107

 

 

 

 

  _  

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS
is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never catered
to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their
products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely
tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer
and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not
provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are
certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)
will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

 

Watch your phone bill.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security features?
;-)

Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter of
getting what you pay for.

TVK

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the CA
Cert.

 

  _  

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I
hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then you've
got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,
depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So
those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server than
our Windows Mobile Phones.

 

  _  

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  _  

If this email is spam, report it here

RE: IPhone 3g

[Mayo, Bill]

I don't know all the specifics, but you can lock down the iPhone using
tools provided by Apple.  In other words, a business can deploy it in a
fashion that isn't identical to buying one from Best Buy.  Specifically,
there is a remote wipe, and it has been there since version 2.0.  I am
not certain about limiting application purchases.  OS 3.0 offers
encryption, too.
 
I don't personally understand concern about signed certificates.  If the
certificate isn't trusted, it warns you and gives you the option to
continue.  It doesn't just blindly accept it.  If I'm setting it up for
my business, I know if I am using self-signed certificates, and I know
if the server I am connecting to is one I trust.  I am not sure how it
is more dangerous for users to be able to accept a self-signed
certificate than you get just from the internet in general--you don't
have to connect to an SSL site to get hosed.  Internet Explorer on
Windows does the same thing--it warns you about a self-signed
certificate and leaves you free to continue.  Is IE not "enterprise
ready"?
 
The way that single launch applications are handled on the iPhone,
combined with the new push notifications leaves me wondering what kind
of situation makes a lack of multitasking so problematic.  Applications
launch fast (very fast on the newest model) and come back just like you
left them.  Who cares that it wasn't running in the background, chewing
up battery, while I was doing something else?  Yes, there may be some
specific instances where this would be useful, but I don't see this
being an issue for the vast majority of situations.
 
 



From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 



Security is the primary issue.  There's no security on P2P connections
through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people
in range, but bad for "losing" company data in the same data stream.

 

And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another
security area.

 

iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.

 

iPhones are chained to iTunes.  iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.
Who really wants your users loading up "shake the baby" on business
devices?

 

There's currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from
app installations to remote wipe for stolen units.

 

Others...

 

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the
OS is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never
catered to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate
their products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been
severely tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in
both consumer and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0
still does not provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated
publicly that there are certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0
update that they either a) will still not support for a while, and b)
may cost extra in the future.

 

Watch your phone bill.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security
features? ;-)

Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a
matter of getting what you pay for.

TVK

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import
the CA Cert.

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what
I hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then
you've got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45
seconds, depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your
thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I set

RE: IPhone 3g

[Jeremy Anderson]

Remote Wipe exist on ActiveSync, although I have not tried it on an iPhone.  
But no one has let me wipe their phone yet.  

From: Rod Trent [rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Spotlight and landscape keyboard is a business tool?

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

The ability to carry additional batteries is pretty important to many 
roadwarriors, so the ability to install them on-the-go without a microscope and 
toolkit is a pretty good feature.

3.0 fixed alot of issues that help business use (spotlight, landscape keyboard 
in more apps)


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107





From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features does 
the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

Andrew Greene
IS Technician / Webmaster
City of Anderson

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS is 
at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never catered to 
businesses – no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their products.  
The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely tasked by the 
customer to produce something that can work in both consumer and business 
sectors.  They’ll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not provide everything. 
 In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are certain features of the 
iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a) will still not support for a 
while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

Watch your phone bill.

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone’s lack of security features? ;-)
Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security 
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.
That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter of 
getting what you pay for.
TVK

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the CA 
Cert.


From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I 
hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then you’ve 
got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds, depending 
on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.
TVK

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So 
those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com>> wrote:
Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server than 
our Windows Mobile Phones.


From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.



From: Eric Wittersheim 
[mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 



I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:


Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Sam Cayze]

Oh, oh!  This is going to be long thread!  I have a huge list I actually
made somewhere...



From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 



Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the
OS is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never
catered to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate
their products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been
severely tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in
both consumer and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0
still does not provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated
publicly that there are certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0
update that they either a) will still not support for a while, and b)
may cost extra in the future.

 

Watch your phone bill.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security
features? ;-)

Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a
matter of getting what you pay for.

TVK

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import
the CA Cert.

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what
I hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then
you've got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45
seconds, depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your
thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).
So those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server
than our Windows Mobile Phones.

 



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 
wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Rod Trent]

Spotlight and landscape keyboard is a business tool?

 

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The ability to carry additional batteries is pretty important to many
roadwarriors, so the ability to install them on-the-go without a microscope
and toolkit is a pretty good feature. 

 

3.0 fixed alot of issues that help business use (spotlight, landscape
keyboard in more apps)

 

 

Phillip Partipilo

Parametric Solutions Inc.

Jupiter, Florida

(561) 747-6107

 

 

 

 

  _  

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS
is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never catered
to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their
products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely
tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer
and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not
provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are
certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)
will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

 

Watch your phone bill.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security features?
;-)

Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter of
getting what you pay for.

TVK

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the CA
Cert.

 

  _  

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I
hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then you've
got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,
depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So
those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server than
our Windows Mobile Phones.

 

  _  

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: IPhone 3g

[Rod Trent]

Security is the primary issue.  There's no security on P2P connections
through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people in
range, but bad for "losing" company data in the same data stream.

 

And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another security
area.

 

iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.

 

iPhones are chained to iTunes.  iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.  Who
really wants your users loading up "shake the baby" on business devices?

 

There's currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from app
installations to remote wipe for stolen units.

 

Others.

 

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS
is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never catered
to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their
products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely
tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer
and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not
provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are
certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)
will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

 

Watch your phone bill.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security features?
;-)

Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter of
getting what you pay for.

TVK

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the CA
Cert.

 

  _  

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I
hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then you've
got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,
depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So
those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server than
our Windows Mobile Phones.

 

  _  

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Licensing question

[Michael B. Smith]

Unless it's SQL Express.

But there is now a SQL Server Web Edition that is "approximately" equivalent to 
SQL Server Workgroup.


From: Joe Heaton [jhea...@etp.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Licensing question

Ok, so I still need to have a SQL server license if we're going to install SQL 
on that box.  That's what I thought, but thanks for the info.

Joe Heaton
Employment Training Panel


-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Licensing question

I believe that is in reference to previous versions of Web Edition only
allowing you to install 3rd party apps that did the same function as MS
supplied apps (IE, you could run a different FTP server on Web Edition since
IIS had an FTP server built in.) Previously, I don't think you could install
database software on Web Edition at all and be compliant with the license.

 - Andy O.

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Licensing question

I saw this statement when looking through the licensing page for Web Server
2008:

"Windows Web Server 2008 licensing is enhanced to allow any type of database
software on the server software with no limit on the number of users."

Does anyone out there have any clarification on this?  Does this mean I can
install SQL on the same box without needing a license?  Or is it just for
CALs for that box?

Joe Heaton
AISA
Employment Training Panel
1100 J Street, 4th Floor
Sacramento, CA  95814
(916) 327-5276
jhea...@etp.ca.gov





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Phillip Partipilo]

The ability to carry additional batteries is pretty important to many
roadwarriors, so the ability to install them on-the-go without a microscope
and toolkit is a pretty good feature. 
 
3.0 fixed alot of issues that help business use (spotlight, landscape
keyboard in more apps)
 
 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 
 

  _  

From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 



Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS
is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never catered
to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their
products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely
tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer
and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not
provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are
certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)
will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

 

Watch your phone bill.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security features?
;-)

Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter of
getting what you pay for.

TVK

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the CA
Cert.

 

  _  

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I
hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then you've
got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,
depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So
those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server than
our Windows Mobile Phones.

 

  _  

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


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RE: IPhone 3g

[Butts, Joseph]

Yep, my iPhone setup was the easiest I've done yet.  Took about 15
seconds, just long enough to type everything in.  You do have to accept
the cert if it's self signed (ours was).  I helped one person out who
had a strange exchange front end and his phone asked for the server
name.  Mine did not.  Again his setup was fast even with asking for the
additional info.

 

 

Joseph Butts

Assistant Director, Academics 

University of South Florida - Graduate School

4202 East Fowler Avenue, BEH 358

Tampa, FL 33620-9951

Phone: 813-974-3586

 

t...@grad.usf.edu

administra...@grad.usf.edu

http://www.grad.usf.edu/ - USF Graduate School: Creating the Future One
Student at a Time

 

Quotes to remember:

This "telephone" has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as
a means of communications. - Western Union Internal memo, 1876

Everything that can be invented has been invented. - Charles H. Duell,
Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899

But ... what is it good for? - An engineer at IBM, commenting on the
microchip in 1968

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -
Arthur C. Clarke (1917-2008)

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong
enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson

Common sense is genius dressed in its working clothes. - Ralph Waldo
Emerson

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import
the CA Cert.

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what
I hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then
you've got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45
seconds, depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your
thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).
So those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server
than our Windows Mobile Phones.

 



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 
wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Jeremy Anderson]

Assuming that ActiveSync is set up and properly working for you..
Also, somthing that is often overlooked is buying a SSL cert that supports 
mobile phones / Devices


1.  Click the Settings app.
 
2.  Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
 
3.  Select Add Account…
 
4.  Select the Microsoft Exchange option.
 
5.  Fill out the fields as indicated, replacing "username" with the 
person's user name.
 
6.  If you receive the message Unable to Verify Certificate, choose Accept.
 
7.  After the Exchange account is verified, the Server field will appear 
that needs to be filled in with external.mailserver..com.

 
8.  Next select what the user would like to synchronize, Mail, Contacts or 
Calendars, and click Done.
 
9.  By default Mail days to sync is set to 3 days.  This can be changed by 
selecting that option and choosing the number of days the user would like.
  
10. By default, SSL will be on.  Confirm this to be the case.
 
11. At some point, the user will be prompted to set a password by which 
they log into the phone each time.  This is set through ActiveSync and cannot 
be turned off until they remove their Exchange account from their iPhone.
 
I also have screenshots if you need them, contact me off the list if you want 
them

From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

Didn't work for Steve Jobs!

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:32, Eric Wittersheim
 wrote:
>
> I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello All.
>>
>> The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
>> be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
>> our
>> Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
>> links to various docs, which I found useless.
>>
>> Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
>> Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
>> friendly
>> side of our SonicWall firewall.
>>
>> I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
>> process.
>>
>> Thanks a ton!
>>
>> Mark A. Ross
>> (909) 946-2032
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: How to get MS Windows systems to see RedHat Linux server files

[MarvinC]

SAMBA! SAMBA! SAMBA!

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Darin McHenry  wrote:

> I need to figure out How to make Microsoft Windows 2003 servers and XP
> workstations view and manipulate a RedHat Linux Server Directories and
> files.  Any suggestions or points in the direction of information on doing
> this?
>
> Thanks,
> Darin McHenry
> SLL-BOCES
> Computer Technician
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Don Guyer]

URL of OWA.

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Don,

I assume you are referring to the "Server" setting within the iPhone?
Is this the URL of OWA or the mail server's machine name? Kindly point
me in the right direction.

Regards,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

You do have to point it to a publicly available address in order to
synch to the Exchange server. 

BTW, setup time for me was sub-2 minutes.

JK!

:)

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IPhone 3g 



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Andrew Greene]

Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the
OS is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never
catered to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate
their products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been
severely tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in
both consumer and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0
still does not provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated
publicly that there are certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0
update that they either a) will still not support for a while, and b)
may cost extra in the future.

 

Watch your phone bill.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security
features? ;-)

Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a
matter of getting what you pay for.

TVK

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import
the CA Cert.

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what
I hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then
you've got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45
seconds, depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your
thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).
So those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server
than our Windows Mobile Phones.

 



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 
wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: HDD spindle speed RAID

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:45 AM, David Lum  wrote:
> Does matching HDD spindle speed matter when you are RAID-ing arrays?

  Define "matter".  :)

  You won't loose data.  The RAID controller has no way of knowing how
fast the spindle is spinning.  It sends a request to the drive and it
waits for the request to complete.  There is going to be a timeout
value but it has nothing to do with how fast the drives are; it's an
absolute timer (e.g., "if no response within 10 seconds, fail the
drive").

  It's not even a case of "the whole array will only go as fast as
your slowest drive".  It's not like there's a set of gears inside the
RAID controller connected to the spindles.  :)  If a request hits a
slower drive, the controller will have to wait for the slower drive.
How often that will happen depends on array configuration and the I/O
load from the host.

  A RAID controller is just a specialized microprocessor, a SCSI
controller (or SATA or whatever), a host interface (PCI, PCIe, etc.),
some firmware, and maybe some RAM for caching.  The firmware includes
the software the microprocessor executes to the RAID work.  Think of
it like an OS, but rather than being general-purpose like Windows, it
just does RAID.  Better controllers have dedicated hardware for the
RAID operations, but still have firmware to supervise the thing.  The
microprocessor talks to the SCSI controller to talk to each drive, and
talks to the host interface to talk to the device driver on the OS.
Conceptually, it's doing the same thing "software RAID" does; it's
just on dedicated hardware so it's independent of the host computer,
and thus speed and reliability are independent as well.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Mayo, Bill]

What, you don't enjoy the cancer jokes?  Nothing better than a
good cancer joke!

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 



-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

Didn't work for Steve Jobs!

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:32, Eric Wittersheim
 wrote:
>
> I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 
wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello All.
>>
>> The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer 
>> will be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive 
>> e-mail from our Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no

>> help. They sent me links to various docs, which I found useless.
>>
>> Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an

>> Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the 
>> friendly side of our SonicWall firewall.
>>
>> I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup 
>> process.
>>
>> Thanks a ton!
>>
>> Mark A. Ross
>> (909) 946-2032
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
>>   ~
>>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Rod Trent]

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

Didn't work for Steve Jobs!

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:32, Eric Wittersheim
 wrote:
>
> I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello All.
>>
>> The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
>> be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
>> our
>> Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
>> links to various docs, which I found useless.
>>
>> Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
>> Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
>> friendly
>> side of our SonicWall firewall.
>>
>> I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
>> process.
>>
>> Thanks a ton!
>>
>> Mark A. Ross
>> (909) 946-2032
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Rod Trent]

The iPhone is still not a business unit.  They are trying, and while the OS
is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO.  Apple has never catered
to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their
products.  The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely
tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer
and business sectors.  They'll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not
provide everything.  In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are
certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a)
will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future.

 

Watch your phone bill.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security features?
;-)

Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.

That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter of
getting what you pay for.

TVK

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the CA
Cert.

 

  _  

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I
hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then you've
got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds,
depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So
those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server than
our Windows Mobile Phones.

 

  _  

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: How to get MS Windows systems to see RedHat Linux server files

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Darin McHenry wrote:
> I need to figure out How to make Microsoft Windows 2003 servers and XP
> workstations view and manipulate a RedHat Linux Server Directories and
> files.

  You can either teach Linux how to speak Microsoft protocols, or you
can teach Windows how to speak Unix protocols.  I've mostly done the
former.  As everyone else said, "Samba" is the standard choice for
that.  Samba is a software package that implements many Microsoft
protocols, especially SMB (Server Message Block, used for file and
printer sharing).  Your best bet is to join Samba to the Active
Directory domain -- make it a "member server", in Microsoft parlance.
Then share out whatever parts of the Linux filesystem you need.

  I've still got my notes from when we did ours, and I can provide
copies of config files if you like.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Mark A. Ross]

Don,

I assume you are referring to the "Server" setting within the iPhone?
Is this the URL of OWA or the mail server's machine name? Kindly point
me in the right direction.

Regards,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

You do have to point it to a publicly available address in order to
synch to the Exchange server. 

BTW, setup time for me was sub-2 minutes.

JK!

:)

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IPhone 3g 



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: IPhone 3g

[Kurt Buff]

Didn't work for Steve Jobs!

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:32, Eric Wittersheim
 wrote:
>
> I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello All.
>>
>> The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
>> be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
>> our
>> Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
>> links to various docs, which I found useless.
>>
>> Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
>> Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
>> friendly
>> side of our SonicWall firewall.
>>
>> I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
>> process.
>>
>> Thanks a ton!
>>
>> Mark A. Ross
>> (909) 946-2032
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: How to get MS Windows systems to see RedHat Linux server files

[Darin McHenry]

Thanks

Darin

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Joseph L. Casale <
jcas...@activenetwerx.com> wrote:

>  Lotsa ways. Share the filesystem with Samba or NFS and install the MS NFS
> client on your windows box.
>
> Samba is prolly the easiest, I just hate itJ
>
>
>
> You can join the RHEL box to your AD as well and even setup ad integrated
> perms/shares…
>
> jlc
>
>
>
> *From:* Darin McHenry [mailto:dmche...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:38 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* How to get MS Windows systems to see RedHat Linux server files
>
>
>
> I need to figure out How to make Microsoft Windows 2003 servers and XP
> workstations view and manipulate a RedHat Linux Server Directories and
> files.  Any suggestions or points in the direction of information on doing
> this?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Darin McHenry
>
> SLL-BOCES
>
> Computer Technician
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security features? ;-)
Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security 
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.
That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter of 
getting what you pay for.
TVK

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import the CA 
Cert.


From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 
If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I 
hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then you've 
got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds, depending 
on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.
TVK

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So 
those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com>> wrote:
Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server than 
our Windows Mobile Phones.


From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.



From: Eric Wittersheim 
[mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 



I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:


Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~




























~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[MarvinC]

DOH!!

thanks

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:

> We still can't connect to a non-domain Hyper-V Host what a pain.
>
> Jon
>
>   On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Christopher Bodnar <
> christopher_bod...@glic.com> wrote:
>
>>  You followed these steps? Specifically steps 4-8 ???
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. On a computer that is running the RC release of Windows 7 RC, download
>> the Remote Server Administration Tools for Windows 7 RC package from the
>> Microsoft Download Center.
>>
>> 2. Open the folder into which the package downloaded, and double-click the
>> package to unpack it, and then start the Remote Server Administration Tools
>> for Windows 7 RC Setup Wizard.
>>
>> Important: You must accept the License Terms and Limited Warranty to start
>> to install the Administration Tools pack.
>>
>> 3. Complete all the steps that you must follow by the wizard, and then
>> click Finish to exit the wizard when installation is completed.
>>
>> 4. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click Programs.
>>
>> 5. In the Programs and Features area, click Turn Windows features on or
>> off.
>>
>> 6. If you are prompted by User Account Control to enable the Windows
>> Features dialog box to open, click Continue.
>>
>> 7. In the Windows Features dialog box, expand Remote Server Administration
>> Tools.
>>
>> 8. Select the remote management tools that you want to install.
>>
>> 9. Click OK.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Bodnar, MCSE
>> Sr. Systems Engineer
>> Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
>> Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
>> Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
>> Phone: 610-807-6459
>> Fax: 610-807-6003
>>  --
>>
>> *From:* marv...@gmail.com [mailto:marv...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:07 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks like the same one I posted and when installed nothing appears in
>> Admin Tools. Am I missing somthing?
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>>
>> David saved me the looking for it.  I just need to load it in my test bed
>> to see what it looks like.  Does it give us more capability or about the
>> same?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Nope. It’s not even the same as the one for Window 7 Beta.
>>
>> TVK
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:43 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it the same as Vista RSAT?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes I have. Just search for Windows 7 RC1 RSAT, it works great!
>>
>> TVK
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:51 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7
>> RC1 for a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86 but
>> I don't see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system crashed and
>> needed repairing.
>>
>> Any responses apprecitated.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   --
>>
>> *This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is
>> privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law.
>> If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are
>> notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or
>> communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received
>> this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail
>> and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. *
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: IPhone 3g

[Daniel Rodriguez]

Beg to differ...

Even though it took a few extra clicks it works find in Windows Mobile, too!

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

>  Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server
> than our Windows Mobile Phones.
>
>  --
> *From:* Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: IPhone 3g 
>
>  Only if you have the app for it.
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: IPhone 3g 
>
>
>
> I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello All.
>
> The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
> be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
> our
> Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
> links to various docs, which I found useless.
>
> Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
> Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
> friendly
> side of our SonicWall firewall.
>
> I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
> process.
>
> Thanks a ton!
>
> Mark A. Ross
> (909) 946-2032
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Sam Cayze]

Self Signed Certs.  Nothing 'really amiss' here.  Just have to import
the CA Cert.



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 



If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what
I hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then
you've got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45
seconds, depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your
thumbs.

TVK

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).
So those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server
than our Windows Mobile Phones.

 



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 
wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: WAS RE: Cell phone allocation and turnover?

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
 wrote:
> What number system are you using?  In hex I'm not yet 40 ...

  I'm always 10, I just keep changing the base.  ;-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Mark A. Ross]

Bob,

I followed your steps, same result. I have one msg in the outbox of the iphone.

"Cannot Send Mail"
An error occurred while delivering this message.

Thank you,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Here is what I have had to do on 3 systems for iPhones to work with Activesync 
on Exchange 2003.  

Go to Exchange System Manger
Admin Group
Domain
Servers
"Servername"
Protocols
HTTP

Right click "Exchange Virtual Server"
Uncheck "enable forms based authentication"
OK your way out.

Open command prompt

Iisreset / restart


Then give setup Active Sync on iPhone again.

-
Bob Fronk
Please print on as needed.





-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IPhone 3g 



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[Jon Harris]

We still can't connect to a non-domain Hyper-V Host what a pain.

Jon

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Christopher Bodnar <
christopher_bod...@glic.com> wrote:

>  You followed these steps? Specifically steps 4-8 ???
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 1. On a computer that is running the RC release of Windows 7 RC, download
> the Remote Server Administration Tools for Windows 7 RC package from the
> Microsoft Download Center.
>
> 2. Open the folder into which the package downloaded, and double-click the
> package to unpack it, and then start the Remote Server Administration Tools
> for Windows 7 RC Setup Wizard.
>
> Important: You must accept the License Terms and Limited Warranty to start
> to install the Administration Tools pack.
>
> 3. Complete all the steps that you must follow by the wizard, and then
> click Finish to exit the wizard when installation is completed.
>
> 4. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click Programs.
>
> 5. In the Programs and Features area, click Turn Windows features on or
> off.
>
> 6. If you are prompted by User Account Control to enable the Windows
> Features dialog box to open, click Continue.
>
> 7. In the Windows Features dialog box, expand Remote Server Administration
> Tools.
>
> 8. Select the remote management tools that you want to install.
>
> 9. Click OK.
>
>
>
> Chris Bodnar, MCSE
> Sr. Systems Engineer
> Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
> Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
> Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
> Phone: 610-807-6459
> Fax: 610-807-6003
>  --
>
> *From:* marv...@gmail.com [mailto:marv...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:07 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>
>
>
> Looks like the same one I posted and when installed nothing appears in
> Admin Tools. Am I missing somthing?
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
> David saved me the looking for it.  I just need to load it in my test bed
> to see what it looks like.  Does it give us more capability or about the
> same?
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
> wrote:
>
> Nope. It’s not even the same as the one for Window 7 Beta.
>
> TVK
>
>
>
> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:43 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>
>
>
> Is it the same as Vista RSAT?
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
> wrote:
>
> Yes I have. Just search for Windows 7 RC1 RSAT, it works great!
>
> TVK
>
>
>
> *From:* MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:51 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>
>
>
> Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7
> RC1 for a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86 but
> I don't see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system crashed and
> needed repairing.
>
> Any responses apprecitated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>  --
>
> *This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is
> privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law.
> If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are
> notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or
> communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received
> this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail
> and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. *
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[Christopher Bodnar]

You followed these steps? Specifically steps 4-8 ???

 

 

 

1. On a computer that is running the RC release of Windows 7 RC, download
the Remote Server Administration Tools for Windows 7 RC package from the
Microsoft Download Center.

2. Open the folder into which the package downloaded, and double-click the
package to unpack it, and then start the Remote Server Administration
Tools for Windows 7 RC Setup Wizard.

Important: You must accept the License Terms and Limited Warranty to start
to install the Administration Tools pack.

3. Complete all the steps that you must follow by the wizard, and then
click Finish to exit the wizard when installation is completed.

4. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click Programs.

5. In the Programs and Features area, click Turn Windows features on or
off.

6. If you are prompted by User Account Control to enable the Windows
Features dialog box to open, click Continue.

7. In the Windows Features dialog box, expand Remote Server Administration
Tools.

8. Select the remote management tools that you want to install.

9. Click OK.

 

Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003

  _  

From: marv...@gmail.com [mailto:marv...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

 

Looks like the same one I posted and when installed nothing appears in
Admin Tools. Am I missing somthing?

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:

David saved me the looking for it.  I just need to load it in my test bed
to see what it looks like.  Does it give us more capability or about the
same?

 

Jon

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
wrote:

Nope. It's not even the same as the one for Window 7 Beta.

TVK

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:43 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

 

Is it the same as Vista RSAT?

 

Jon

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
wrote:

Yes I have. Just search for Windows 7 RC1 RSAT, it works great!

TVK

 

From: MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

 

Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7 RC1
for a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86 but I
don't see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system crashed and
needed repairing. 

Any responses apprecitated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[Jon Harris]

You have to add them like in Vista go to Contorl Panel Programs Add Feature
and then select what you want/need.  I saw at least one new one but they all
looked to be about the same.

Jon

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:07 PM, MarvinC  wrote:

> Looks like the same one I posted and when installed nothing appears in
> Admin Tools. Am I missing somthing?
>
>   On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
>> David saved me the looking for it.  I just need to load it in my test bed
>> to see what it looks like.  Does it give us more capability or about the
>> same?
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>   On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Nope. It’s not even the same as the one for Window 7 Beta.
>>>
>>> TVK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:43 PM
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it the same as Vista RSAT?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes I have. Just search for Windows 7 RC1 RSAT, it works great!
>>>
>>> TVK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:51 AM
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7
>>> RC1 for a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86 but
>>> I don't see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system crashed and
>>> needed repairing.
>>>
>>> Any responses apprecitated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Mark A. Ross]

Very good information, thank you.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

I guess one of the other things that EAS on the iPhone does is it
automatically tries to connect using SSL - if you don't have a cert
installed you'll either need to turn SSL off (which entails going
through an unsuccessful setup on the iPhone and saving your settings and
then editing the settings) or install a cert. I only recently setup an
SSL cert on my Exchange server and had to do this with all of the
iPhones. A user with a Palm Pre forced me to finally install an SSL
certificate as it wouldn't connect without using SSL.

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Ben Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

My Windows Mobile 6.1 Motorola Q was happily syncing my e-mail,
contacts, calendar and tasks from my Exchange Server from my pocket as I
walked from the Verizon store back to my car. I don't know how much
faster than that an iPhone could be.

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com  
b...@rolandschorr.com  

Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).
So those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server
than our Windows Mobile Phones.

 



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 
wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[MarvinC]

Looks like the same one I posted and when installed nothing appears in Admin
Tools. Am I missing somthing?

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:

> David saved me the looking for it.  I just need to load it in my test bed
> to see what it looks like.  Does it give us more capability or about the
> same?
>
> Jon
>
>   On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
> wrote:
>
>>  Nope. It’s not even the same as the one for Window 7 Beta.
>>
>> TVK
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:43 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it the same as Vista RSAT?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes I have. Just search for Windows 7 RC1 RSAT, it works great!
>>
>> TVK
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:51 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7
>> RC1 for a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86 but
>> I don't see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system crashed and
>> needed repairing.
>>
>> Any responses apprecitated.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: IPhone 3.0 battery

[Sean Martin]

I updated to 3.0 yesterday. Phone was plugged in all night, been off charger
for approximately 4 hours, used sparingly. Still show full battery. Push
notifications, activesync/push are turned on, bluetooth and wifi are turned
off. So far, battery life seems about the same as 2.2.1.

- Sean

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Mayo, Bill  wrote:

> Push notifications is controlled separately from push email, as far as I
> can tell.  Push notifications is the new feature that allows
> applications to send you alerts (message, sound, badge) when the
> application is not running.  This is basically a background service
> running all the time, hence the battery usage.
>
> You can also turn on/off push email, and that also has an impact on
> battery life.  This would affect your Exchange mail, as the phone would
> then check in periodically (time period you select) for new messages.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:27 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery
>
> Will turning push off affect ActiveSync?  I get my Exchange mail on here
> that way.
>
> Jay
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery
>
> I had push enabled before the upgrade and the battery was fine.  I left
> Wifi off altogether since I really didn't need it.  Since the upgrade,
> no other settings or apps have changed, yet the battery only lasts about
> 3 hours.
>
> Jay
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:38 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery
>
> +1.  If you have turned on push notifications, that definitely uses more
> battery.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:11 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery
>
> Updated to 3.0 last week, no change in battery life.
>
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:40 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery
>
> My battery life is the same after going from 2.2.1 to 3.0. If you've got
> the connection battery hogs turned off and you don't have any apps that
> are hanging and eating battery, then I'd say it's possible that you've
> got something going on with your battery, but I wouldn't think so with
> the timing. I had a similar problem before, but I'm pretty sure it was
> hanging apps. You can try resetting it and if that doesn't work, restore
> the OS and just re-sync. That's what the folks at the Apple Store did
> when I was having trouble and is likely just their first line of
> troubleshooting. If you're still under warranty, they should get you
> swapped with a working unit.
>
> Andrew Greene
> IS Technician / Webmaster
> City of Anderson
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:30 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: IPhone 3.0 battery
>
> Anybody else having this problem?  I just updated my IPhone to 3.0, and
> now my battery goes down to zero after only a few hours, whereas before
> the update it would easily last a day or two.  I always leave WiFi
> turned off, and I have an app that kills memory processes, but it
> doesn't help anymore.
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
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>   ~
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>   ~
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> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: WAS RE: Cell phone allocation and turnover?

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 23 Jun 2009 at 13:11, Sherry Abercrombie  wrote:

> LOL, that's what my sister-in-law just said to me. Yup, that's me, 29 
> with one grandson & a granddaughter on the way, 29 & holding.

What number system are you using?  In hex I'm not yet 40 ...

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[Jon Harris]

David saved me the looking for it.  I just need to load it in my test bed to
see what it looks like.  Does it give us more capability or about the same?

Jon

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Tim Vander Kooi wrote:

>  Nope. It’s not even the same as the one for Window 7 Beta.
>
> TVK
>
>
>
> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:43 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>
>
>
> Is it the same as Vista RSAT?
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
> wrote:
>
> Yes I have. Just search for Windows 7 RC1 RSAT, it works great!
>
> TVK
>
>
>
> *From:* MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:51 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>
>
>
> Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7
> RC1 for a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86 but
> I don't see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system crashed and
> needed repairing.
>
> Any responses apprecitated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Nope. It's not even the same as the one for Window 7 Beta.
TVK

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

Is it the same as Vista RSAT?

Jon
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com>> wrote:

Yes I have. Just search for Windows 7 RC1 RSAT, it works great!

TVK



From: MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1



Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7 RC1 for 
a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86 but I don't 
see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system crashed and needed 
repairing.

Any responses apprecitated.














~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[David L Herrick]

Try here

 

 

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=f6c62797-791c-4
8e3-b754-c7c0a09f32f3&displaylang=en

 

 

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

 

Is it the same as Vista RSAT?

 

Jon

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
wrote:

Yes I have. Just search for Windows 7 RC1 RSAT, it works great!

TVK

 

From: MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

 

Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7
RC1 for a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86
but I don't see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system
crashed and needed repairing. 

Any responses apprecitated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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RE: Licensing question

[Joe Heaton]

Ok, so I still need to have a SQL server license if we're going to install SQL 
on that box.  That's what I thought, but thanks for the info.

Joe Heaton
Employment Training Panel


-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Licensing question

I believe that is in reference to previous versions of Web Edition only
allowing you to install 3rd party apps that did the same function as MS
supplied apps (IE, you could run a different FTP server on Web Edition since
IIS had an FTP server built in.) Previously, I don't think you could install
database software on Web Edition at all and be compliant with the license.

 - Andy O. 

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Licensing question

I saw this statement when looking through the licensing page for Web Server
2008:

"Windows Web Server 2008 licensing is enhanced to allow any type of database
software on the server software with no limit on the number of users."

Does anyone out there have any clarification on this?  Does this mean I can
install SQL on the same box without needing a license?  Or is it just for
CALs for that box?

Joe Heaton
AISA
Employment Training Panel
1100 J Street, 4th Floor
Sacramento, CA  95814
(916) 327-5276
jhea...@etp.ca.gov

 
 


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RE: Licensing question

[Andy Ognenoff]

I believe that is in reference to previous versions of Web Edition only
allowing you to install 3rd party apps that did the same function as MS
supplied apps (IE, you could run a different FTP server on Web Edition since
IIS had an FTP server built in.) Previously, I don’t think you could install
database software on Web Edition at all and be compliant with the license.

 - Andy O. 

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Licensing question

I saw this statement when looking through the licensing page for Web Server
2008:

“Windows Web Server 2008 licensing is enhanced to allow any type of database
software on the server software with no limit on the number of users.”

Does anyone out there have any clarification on this?  Does this mean I can
install SQL on the same box without needing a license?  Or is it just for
CALs for that box?

Joe Heaton
AISA
Employment Training Panel
1100 J Street, 4th Floor
Sacramento, CA  95814
(916) 327-5276
jhea...@etp.ca.gov

 
 


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Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[Jon Harris]

Is it the same as Vista RSAT?

Jon

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tim Vander Kooi wrote:

>  Yes I have. Just search for Windows 7 RC1 RSAT, it works great!
>
> TVK
>
>
>
> *From:* MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:51 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>
>
>
> Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7
> RC1 for a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86 but
> I don't see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system crashed and
> needed repairing.
>
> Any responses apprecitated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: IPhone 3g

[Andrew Greene]

I guess one of the other things that EAS on the iPhone does is it
automatically tries to connect using SSL - if you don't have a cert
installed you'll either need to turn SSL off (which entails going
through an unsuccessful setup on the iPhone and saving your settings and
then editing the settings) or install a cert. I only recently setup an
SSL cert on my Exchange server and had to do this with all of the
iPhones. A user with a Palm Pre forced me to finally install an SSL
certificate as it wouldn't connect without using SSL.

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Ben Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

 

My Windows Mobile 6.1 Motorola Q was happily syncing my e-mail,
contacts, calendar and tasks from my Exchange Server from my pocket as I
walked from the Verizon store back to my car. I don't know how much
faster than that an iPhone could be.

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com  
b...@rolandschorr.com  

Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).
So those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server
than our Windows Mobile Phones.

 



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 
wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


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~   ~

Licensing question

[Joe Heaton]

I saw this statement when looking through the licensing page for Web
Server 2008:

 

"Windows Web Server 2008 licensing is enhanced to allow any type of
database software on the server software with no limit on the number of
users."

 

Does anyone out there have any clarification on this?  Does this mean I
can install SQL on the same box without needing a license?  Or is it
just for CALs for that box?

 

Joe Heaton

AISA

Employment Training Panel

1100 J Street, 4th Floor

Sacramento, CA  95814

(916) 327-5276

jhea...@etp.ca.gov

 


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~   ~

RE: How to get MS Windows systems to see RedHat Linux server files

[Andrew Greene]

+1 for Samba.

 

Andrew Greene

IS Technician / Webmaster

City of Anderson

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How to get MS Windows systems to see RedHat Linux server
files

 

NFS on the Win boxen or Samba on the Linux box.

 

-sc

 

From: Darin McHenry [mailto:dmche...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How to get MS Windows systems to see RedHat Linux server files

 

I need to figure out How to make Microsoft Windows 2003 servers and XP
workstations view and manipulate a RedHat Linux Server Directories and
files.  Any suggestions or points in the direction of information on
doing this?

 

Thanks,

Darin McHenry

SLL-BOCES

Computer Technician

 

 

 

 

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RE: Scheduled task Windows 2003 R2

[Steven M. Caesare]

I suspect it may indeed be a perms issue.

 

CMD Prompt = Your logon credentials

Scheduler Interface = Credentials scheduler svc uses.

 

-sc

 

From: Scott Schneider [mailto:sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Scheduled task Windows 2003 R2

 

I have some nightly scripts (5 in total) which copy files from a server
out to  shopfloor PC.'s 2 out of 5 scripts finish in an extended period
of time. The other 3 run for hours and hours and never finish before 24
hours is over. If I manually run the .bat files from a command prompt at
the server, they finish in about 20 minutes. I assume if they run fine
at a command prompt that it is not a networking issue. I have even tried
manually running from the scheduled tasks and get the same slow result.
I kill the task, and run it from a command prompt  all is fine.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks

 

The server is 2003 R2 and the shop floor PCs XP with SP2

 

 

This is an example of the one line of the copy command from the .bat
file. It repeats anywhere from a few hundred times to a around a 1000
times

 

IF EXIST d:\ptc\vaults\INS_V02\195418.anc copy
d:\ptc\vaults\INS_V02\195418.anc \\fab-1140\c$\ncload\26402-58-r.anc
 

 

Scott Schneider
Senior Network Admin

P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail 



 

 

 

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RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

[Mayo, Bill]

Push notifications is controlled separately from push email, as far as I
can tell.  Push notifications is the new feature that allows
applications to send you alerts (message, sound, badge) when the
application is not running.  This is basically a background service
running all the time, hence the battery usage.

You can also turn on/off push email, and that also has an impact on
battery life.  This would affect your Exchange mail, as the phone would
then check in periodically (time period you select) for new messages. 

-Original Message-
From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

Will turning push off affect ActiveSync?  I get my Exchange mail on here
that way.

Jay

-Original Message-
From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

I had push enabled before the upgrade and the battery was fine.  I left
Wifi off altogether since I really didn't need it.  Since the upgrade,
no other settings or apps have changed, yet the battery only lasts about
3 hours.

Jay

-Original Message-
From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

+1.  If you have turned on push notifications, that definitely uses more
battery. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

Updated to 3.0 last week, no change in battery life.

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

My battery life is the same after going from 2.2.1 to 3.0. If you've got
the connection battery hogs turned off and you don't have any apps that
are hanging and eating battery, then I'd say it's possible that you've
got something going on with your battery, but I wouldn't think so with
the timing. I had a similar problem before, but I'm pretty sure it was
hanging apps. You can try resetting it and if that doesn't work, restore
the OS and just re-sync. That's what the folks at the Apple Store did
when I was having trouble and is likely just their first line of
troubleshooting. If you're still under warranty, they should get you
swapped with a working unit.

Andrew Greene
IS Technician / Webmaster
City of Anderson

-Original Message-
From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IPhone 3.0 battery

Anybody else having this problem?  I just updated my IPhone to 3.0, and
now my battery goes down to zero after only a few hours, whereas before
the update it would easily last a day or two.  I always leave WiFi
turned off, and I have an app that kills memory processes, but it
doesn't help anymore.
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RE: How to get MS Windows systems to see RedHat Linux server files

[Steven M. Caesare]

NFS on the Win boxen or Samba on the Linux box.

 

-sc

 

From: Darin McHenry [mailto:dmche...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How to get MS Windows systems to see RedHat Linux server files

 

I need to figure out How to make Microsoft Windows 2003 servers and XP
workstations view and manipulate a RedHat Linux Server Directories and
files.  Any suggestions or points in the direction of information on
doing this?

 

Thanks,

Darin McHenry

SLL-BOCES

Computer Technician

 

 

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~   ~

RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

[Garcia-Moran, Carlos]

Yes it will change back to manual / time checked

-Original Message-
From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

Will turning push off affect ActiveSync?  I get my Exchange mail on here
that way.

Jay

-Original Message-
From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

I had push enabled before the upgrade and the battery was fine.  I left
Wifi off altogether since I really didn't need it.  Since the upgrade,
no other settings or apps have changed, yet the battery only lasts about
3 hours.

Jay

-Original Message-
From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

+1.  If you have turned on push notifications, that definitely uses more
battery. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

Updated to 3.0 last week, no change in battery life.

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

My battery life is the same after going from 2.2.1 to 3.0. If you've got
the connection battery hogs turned off and you don't have any apps that
are hanging and eating battery, then I'd say it's possible that you've
got something going on with your battery, but I wouldn't think so with
the timing. I had a similar problem before, but I'm pretty sure it was
hanging apps. You can try resetting it and if that doesn't work, restore
the OS and just re-sync. That's what the folks at the Apple Store did
when I was having trouble and is likely just their first line of
troubleshooting. If you're still under warranty, they should get you
swapped with a working unit.

Andrew Greene
IS Technician / Webmaster
City of Anderson

-Original Message-
From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IPhone 3.0 battery

Anybody else having this problem?  I just updated my IPhone to 3.0, and
now my battery goes down to zero after only a few hours, whereas before
the update it would easily last a day or two.  I always leave WiFi
turned off, and I have an app that kills memory processes, but it
doesn't help anymore.
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RE: Strange patch released yesterday

[Carl Houseman]

Google "MS patch firefox" for details of the how/why.

WSUS/MU/WU determine patch necessity based on the version of software that
exists that might need to be patched.  The existence of FF is not used in
this determination because FF isn't being patched.
 
Carl

-Original Message-
From: Bill Monicher [mailto:bmacd5...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Strange patch released yesterday

I checked my WSUS server this morning, and found a new patch had been
received since yesterday, yet I had no bulletin about it.
It is marked critical.

Description:
The update to .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 for the .NET Framework
Assistant 1.0 for Firefox addresses several compatibility issues with
version 1.0 of the extension.

The supplied "More info" link is http://support.microsoft.com/kb/963707

which points to removal instructions, but the WSUS entry specifies
"Removable: No"

Has anyone else seen this?

Anyone have any further information?
It seems odd that it would be "Critical" and even odder that it would
be "needed" by all XP machines on site, only one of which has Firefox
installed.

--BM

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RE: IPhone 3g

[Ben Schorr]

My Windows Mobile 6.1 Motorola Q was happily syncing my e-mail,
contacts, calendar and tasks from my Exchange Server from my pocket as I
walked from the Verizon store back to my car. I don't know how much
faster than that an iPhone could be.

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com  
b...@rolandschorr.com  

Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).
So those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server
than our Windows Mobile Phones.

 



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 
wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


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~   ~

RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

[Jay Dale]

Will turning push off affect ActiveSync?  I get my Exchange mail on here
that way.

Jay

-Original Message-
From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

I had push enabled before the upgrade and the battery was fine.  I left
Wifi off altogether since I really didn't need it.  Since the upgrade,
no other settings or apps have changed, yet the battery only lasts about
3 hours.

Jay

-Original Message-
From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

+1.  If you have turned on push notifications, that definitely uses more
battery. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

Updated to 3.0 last week, no change in battery life.

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

My battery life is the same after going from 2.2.1 to 3.0. If you've got
the connection battery hogs turned off and you don't have any apps that
are hanging and eating battery, then I'd say it's possible that you've
got something going on with your battery, but I wouldn't think so with
the timing. I had a similar problem before, but I'm pretty sure it was
hanging apps. You can try resetting it and if that doesn't work, restore
the OS and just re-sync. That's what the folks at the Apple Store did
when I was having trouble and is likely just their first line of
troubleshooting. If you're still under warranty, they should get you
swapped with a working unit.

Andrew Greene
IS Technician / Webmaster
City of Anderson

-Original Message-
From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IPhone 3.0 battery

Anybody else having this problem?  I just updated my IPhone to 3.0, and
now my battery goes down to zero after only a few hours, whereas before
the update it would easily last a day or two.  I always leave WiFi
turned off, and I have an app that kills memory processes, but it
doesn't help anymore.
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  ~

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  ~

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  ~

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~   ~



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RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

[Jay Dale]

I had push enabled before the upgrade and the battery was fine.  I left
Wifi off altogether since I really didn't need it.  Since the upgrade,
no other settings or apps have changed, yet the battery only lasts about
3 hours.

Jay

-Original Message-
From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

+1.  If you have turned on push notifications, that definitely uses more
battery. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

Updated to 3.0 last week, no change in battery life.

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

My battery life is the same after going from 2.2.1 to 3.0. If you've got
the connection battery hogs turned off and you don't have any apps that
are hanging and eating battery, then I'd say it's possible that you've
got something going on with your battery, but I wouldn't think so with
the timing. I had a similar problem before, but I'm pretty sure it was
hanging apps. You can try resetting it and if that doesn't work, restore
the OS and just re-sync. That's what the folks at the Apple Store did
when I was having trouble and is likely just their first line of
troubleshooting. If you're still under warranty, they should get you
swapped with a working unit.

Andrew Greene
IS Technician / Webmaster
City of Anderson

-Original Message-
From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IPhone 3.0 battery

Anybody else having this problem?  I just updated my IPhone to 3.0, and
now my battery goes down to zero after only a few hours, whereas before
the update it would easily last a day or two.  I always leave WiFi
turned off, and I have an app that kills memory processes, but it
doesn't help anymore.
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Re: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[Steve Ens]

+1

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Tim Vander Kooi wrote:

>  Yes I have. Just search for Windows 7 RC1 RSAT, it works great!
>
> TVK
>
>
>
> *From:* MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:51 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1
>
>
>
> Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7
> RC1 for a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86 but
> I don't see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system crashed and
> needed repairing.
>
> Any responses apprecitated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Strange patch released yesterday

[Bill Monicher]

I checked my WSUS server this morning, and found a new patch had been
received since yesterday, yet I had no bulletin about it.
It is marked critical.

Description:
The update to .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 for the .NET Framework
Assistant 1.0 for Firefox addresses several compatibility issues with
version 1.0 of the extension.

The supplied "More info" link is http://support.microsoft.com/kb/963707 

which points to removal instructions, but the WSUS entry specifies
"Removable: No"

Has anyone else seen this?

Anyone have any further information?
It seems odd that it would be "Critical" and even odder that it would
be "needed" by all XP machines on site, only one of which has Firefox
installed.

--BM

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RE: IPhone 3g

[Tim Vander Kooi]

If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I 
hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then you've 
got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds, depending 
on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs.
TVK

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So 
those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com>> wrote:
Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server than 
our Windows Mobile Phones.


From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 

Only if you have the app for it.



From: Eric Wittersheim 
[mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 



I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:


Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


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RE: Verify FSMO roles have changed

[Jay Dale]

I think they show up in Event viewer also when they have been changed.
But I typically give it an hour or two to make sure.

 

Jay

 

From: vbs [mailto:dvant...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Verify FSMO roles have changed

 




I needed to change the FSMO roles from 1 DC to another. I have 4 DC's in
the environment. Is there any way to verify that the FSMO changes have
replicated to all DC's


-- 
Thanks
Dave Vantine

 

 

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RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

[Jay Dale]

Not jailbroken, using an app from the store.

Everything was setup the same way.  Then the 3.0 was installed.  Now I
have battery life that runs out in a few hours.

Jay

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3.0 battery

My Gen2 has been running the 3.0 firmware for about a week now, can't
say I
have seen a change in battery life at all, neither worse nor better.  An
app
that kills memory processes... On the app store?  Or are you jailbroken?



 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IPhone 3.0 battery



Anybody else having this problem?  I just updated my IPhone to 3.0, and
now
my battery goes down to zero after only a few hours, whereas before the
update it would easily last a day or two.  I always leave WiFi turned
off,
and I have an app that kills memory processes, but it doesn't help
anymore.
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RE: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Yes I have. Just search for Windows 7 RC1 RSAT, it works great!
TVK

From: MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7 RC1 for 
a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86 but I don't 
see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system crashed and needed 
repairing.
Any responses apprecitated.





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RE: IPhone 3g

[Sam Cayze]

The don't complain about non-trusted certs, they just soak 'em right up.
Me Likey :)



From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 


That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).
So those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)


On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:


Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange
Server than our Windows Mobile Phones.



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM 

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 



Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross
 wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for
cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive
e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They
sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect
to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on
the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute
setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


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RE: How to get MS Windows systems to see RedHat Linux server files

[John Aldrich]

Sample configs sent off-list

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Darin McHenry [mailto:dmche...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How to get MS Windows systems to see RedHat Linux server files

 

I need to figure out How to make Microsoft Windows 2003 servers and XP
workstations view and manipulate a RedHat Linux Server Directories and
files.  Any suggestions or points in the direction of information on doing
this?

 

Thanks,

Darin McHenry

SLL-BOCES

Computer Technician

 

 

Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.90/2199 - Release Date: 06/24/09
06:23:00


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Re: IPhone 3g

[Steve Ens]

That is ironic.  I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).  So
those iPhones must be wicked fast.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

>  Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server
> than our Windows Mobile Phones.
>
>  --
> *From:* Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: IPhone 3g 
>
>  Only if you have the app for it.
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: IPhone 3g 
>
>
>
> I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello All.
>
> The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
> be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
> our
> Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
> links to various docs, which I found useless.
>
> Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
> Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
> friendly
> side of our SonicWall firewall.
>
> I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
> process.
>
> Thanks a ton!
>
> Mark A. Ross
> (909) 946-2032
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Data closet monitoring

[Andy Ognenoff]

:) We just use the temperature monitor.

 - Andy O.

>-Original Message-
>From: Mike French [mailto:mike.fre...@theequitybank.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:54 AM
>To: NT System Admin Issues
>Subject: RE: Data closet monitoring
>
>From their site:
>
>"Emergency Automatic Shutdown
>Enviromon's Linux devices will automatically send a shutdown message to
>your Linux or Windows based servers. You can rest assured that your
>servers will be safely shot down before your UPS runs out."
>
>Safely "Shot" down Nice feature...


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RE: Data closet monitoring

[Mike French]

>From their site:

"Emergency Automatic Shutdown
Enviromon's Linux devices will automatically send a shutdown message to
your Linux or Windows based servers. You can rest assured that your
servers will be safely shot down before your UPS runs out."

Safely "Shot" down Nice feature...

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Data closet monitoring

We use SensorHawk. 

http://store.enviromon.net/cart.php?target=category&category_id=60

 - Andy O.

>-Original Message-
>From: Craig Gauss [mailto:gau...@rhahealthcare.org]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:27 AM
>To: NT System Admin Issues
>Subject: Data closet monitoring
>
>We have a new data closet being built.  We used to purchase APC
>AP9319X446 for monitoring but I see those are discontinued.  Does
anyone
>have any suggestions for devices to monitor the temp and humidity of a
>data closet?
>
>
>Craig Gauss,  Technical Supervisor/Security Officer
>Riverview Hospital Association
>Phone: 715-423-6060 ext. 8572
>
>
>
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Admin Tools for Windows 7 RC1

[MarvinC]

Anyone able to locate and get the admin tools installed onto Windows 7
RC1 for a Windows 2003 environment? I downloaded Windows6.1-KB958830-x86 but
I don't see anything under Admin Tools. Afterwards the system crashed and
needed repairing.
Any responses apprecitated.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: IPhone 3g

[Sam Cayze]

Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server
than our Windows Mobile Phones.



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g 



Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross 
wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


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~  >  ~

 

 

 

 

 


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RE: IPhone 3g

[Bob Fronk]

Here is what I have had to do on 3 systems for iPhones to work with Activesync 
on Exchange 2003.  

Go to Exchange System Manger
Admin Group
Domain
Servers
"Servername"
Protocols
HTTP

Right click "Exchange Virtual Server"
Uncheck "enable forms based authentication"
OK your way out.

Open command prompt

Iisreset / restart


Then give setup Active Sync on iPhone again.

-
Bob Fronk
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-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IPhone 3g 



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


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RE: IPhone 3g

[Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC]

Only if you have the app for it.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g 

 

I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross  wrote:



Hello All.

The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.

Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.

I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.

Thanks a ton!

Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~  >  ~

 

 

 

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RE: Data closet monitoring

[Eldridge, Dave]

+1 on the goose.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Data closet monitoring

If you want to stay with APC, why not look at their current line of
products in that area?

http://www.apc.com/products/category.cfm?id=17

I have used the Supergoose in the past and found it to be reliable:

http://www.itwatchdogs.com/products_mon.shtml



Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003

-Original Message-
From: Craig Gauss [mailto:gau...@rhahealthcare.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Data closet monitoring

We have a new data closet being built.  We used to purchase APC
AP9319X446 for monitoring but I see those are discontinued.  Does anyone
have any suggestions for devices to monitor the temp and humidity of a
data closet?
 

Craig Gauss,  Technical Supervisor/Security Officer
Riverview Hospital Association
Phone: 715-423-6060 ext. 8572



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RE: Data closet monitoring

[Christopher Bodnar]

If you want to stay with APC, why not look at their current line of
products in that area?

http://www.apc.com/products/category.cfm?id=17

I have used the Supergoose in the past and found it to be reliable:

http://www.itwatchdogs.com/products_mon.shtml



Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003

-Original Message-
From: Craig Gauss [mailto:gau...@rhahealthcare.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Data closet monitoring

We have a new data closet being built.  We used to purchase APC
AP9319X446 for monitoring but I see those are discontinued.  Does anyone
have any suggestions for devices to monitor the temp and humidity of a
data closet?
 

Craig Gauss,  Technical Supervisor/Security Officer
Riverview Hospital Association
Phone: 715-423-6060 ext. 8572



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Re: Scheduled task Windows 2003 R2

[Don Kuhlman]

Is it running the same dos command environment - prompt settings, etc. as your 
live dos session?





From: Brian Desmond 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:25:22 AM
Subject: RE: Scheduled task Windows 2003 R2


I assume if one of the files exists on the remote end it’s prompting for auth 
to overwrite. I think you can tag a /y or a /q on to the copy command to bypass 
that. 
 
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com
 
c - 312.731.3132
 
Active Directory, 4th Ed- http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian
 
From:Scott Schneider [mailto:sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Scheduled task Windows 2003 R2
 
I have some nightly scripts (5 in total) which copy files from a server out to  
shopfloor PC.'s 2 out of 5 scripts finish in an extended period of time. The 
other 3 run for hours and hours and never finish before 24 hours is over. If I 
manually run the .bat files from a command prompt at the server, they finish in 
about 20 minutes. I assume if they run fine at a command prompt that it is not 
a networking issue. I have even tried manually running from the scheduled tasks 
and get the same slow result. I kill the task, and run it from a command 
prompt  all is fine.
 
Any ideas?
 
Thanks
 
The server is 2003 R2 and the shop floor PCs XP with SP2
 
 
This is an example of the one line of the copy command from the .bat file. It 
repeats anywhere from a few hundred times to a around a 1000 times
 
IF EXIST d:\ptc\vaults\INS_V02\195418.anc copy d:\ptc\vaults\INS_V02\195418.anc 
\\fab-1140\c$\ncload\26402-58-r.anc
 
Scott Schneider
Senior Network Admin
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail


  
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RE: Data closet monitoring

[Lee, Damon]

I have a couple of device from these people and have been happy with
their products.

Damon

-Original Message-
From: Craig Gauss [mailto:gau...@rhahealthcare.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Data closet monitoring

We have a new data closet being built.  We used to purchase APC
AP9319X446 for monitoring but I see those are discontinued.  Does anyone
have any suggestions for devices to monitor the temp and humidity of a
data closet?
 

Craig Gauss,  Technical Supervisor/Security Officer
Riverview Hospital Association
Phone: 715-423-6060 ext. 8572



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RE: Data closet monitoring

[Andy Ognenoff]

We use SensorHawk. 

http://store.enviromon.net/cart.php?target=category&category_id=60

 - Andy O.

>-Original Message-
>From: Craig Gauss [mailto:gau...@rhahealthcare.org]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:27 AM
>To: NT System Admin Issues
>Subject: Data closet monitoring
>
>We have a new data closet being built.  We used to purchase APC
>AP9319X446 for monitoring but I see those are discontinued.  Does anyone
>have any suggestions for devices to monitor the temp and humidity of a
>data closet?
>
>
>Craig Gauss,  Technical Supervisor/Security Officer
>Riverview Hospital Association
>Phone: 715-423-6060 ext. 8572
>
>
>
>~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>~   ~



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RE: Data closet monitoring

[Chris Orovet]

 
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-Original Message-
From: Craig Gauss [mailto:gau...@rhahealthcare.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Data closet monitoring

We have a new data closet being built.  We used to purchase APC
AP9319X446 for monitoring but I see those are discontinued.  Does anyone
have any suggestions for devices to monitor the temp and humidity of a
data closet?
 

Craig Gauss,  Technical Supervisor/Security Officer Riverview Hospital
Association
Phone: 715-423-6060 ext. 8572



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RE: Scheduled task Windows 2003 R2

[Scott Schneider]

I delete all the files before doing the copy and verify the folders are
empty before the copy routine fires off. Excellent thought though.



From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: June-24-09 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Scheduled task Windows 2003 R2



I assume if one of the files exists on the remote end it's prompting for
auth to overwrite. I think you can tag a /y or a /q on to the copy
command to bypass that. 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
 

Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian
 

 

From: Scott Schneider [mailto:sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Scheduled task Windows 2003 R2

 

I have some nightly scripts (5 in total) which copy files from a server
out to  shopfloor PC.'s 2 out of 5 scripts finish in an extended period
of time. The other 3 run for hours and hours and never finish before 24
hours is over. If I manually run the .bat files from a command prompt at
the server, they finish in about 20 minutes. I assume if they run fine
at a command prompt that it is not a networking issue. I have even tried
manually running from the scheduled tasks and get the same slow result.
I kill the task, and run it from a command prompt  all is fine.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks

 

The server is 2003 R2 and the shop floor PCs XP with SP2

 

 

This is an example of the one line of the copy command from the .bat
file. It repeats anywhere from a few hundred times to a around a 1000
times

 

IF EXIST d:\ptc\vaults\INS_V02\195418.anc copy
d:\ptc\vaults\INS_V02\195418.anc \\fab-1140\c$\ncload\26402-58-r.anc
 

 

Scott Schneider
Senior Network Admin

P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail 



 

 

 

 

 


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RE: Scheduled task Windows 2003 R2

[Scott Schneider]

I have tested the script running as the admin account and with the user
account with the scheduled task. In each case it runs fine from the
script and runs in about 20 minutes but runs slowly as a scheduled task.
 
To rule out a timing issue or other possible conflict, I did a "run
task" from the job scheduler this morning. It still ran like a dog. I
stop the scheduled task, ran it from a command line on the server and it
worked OK. I will check it out with Sysinternal Process monitor and
watch the results



From: Joe Tinney [mailto:jtin...@lastar.com] 
Sent: June-24-09 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Scheduled task Windows 2003 R2



Out of curiosity, are you testing on the command line with the same user
credentials that the scheduled task is running under? 

Barring something like that being the problem it sounds like the batch
file is waiting for user input, perhaps?

Have you tried monitoring the process with Systinerals ProcMon to see if
it is looping endlessly somewhere or getting Access Denied on anything? 

 

From: Scott Schneider [mailto:sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Scheduled task Windows 2003 R2

 

I have some nightly scripts (5 in total) which copy files from a server
out to  shopfloor PC.'s 2 out of 5 scripts finish in an extended period
of time. The other 3 run for hours and hours and never finish before 24
hours is over. If I manually run the .bat files from a command prompt at
the server, they finish in about 20 minutes. I assume if they run fine
at a command prompt that it is not a networking issue. I have even tried
manually running from the scheduled tasks and get the same slow result.
I kill the task, and run it from a command prompt  all is fine.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks

 

The server is 2003 R2 and the shop floor PCs XP with SP2

 

 

This is an example of the one line of the copy command from the .bat
file. It repeats anywhere from a few hundred times to a around a 1000
times

 

IF EXIST d:\ptc\vaults\INS_V02\195418.anc copy
d:\ptc\vaults\INS_V02\195418.anc \\fab-1140\c$\ncload\26402-58-r.anc
 

 

Scott Schneider
Senior Network Admin

P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail 



 

 

 

 

 


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RE: HDD spindle speed RAID

[David Lum]

Thanks everyone for your responses!

Dave
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HDD spindle speed RAID

It is my understanding that your performance will be degraded to the slowest 
drive speed in the RAID set.


From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: HDD spindle speed RAID
Does matching HDD spindle speed matter when you are RAID-ing arrays? Can you 
have RAID 1 with a 10,000rpm drive and a 7200RPM one? The controller just 
adjusts when it's waiting to know both drives are ready for more data, right?

Somehow I seem to think they need to match - is it only specific conditions? 
Hardware raid vs software perhaps? Only stuff other than RAID 0 or 1? Or was 
the crack I smoked still having an effect?

Bueller?
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764










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RE: How to get MS Windows systems to see RedHat Linux server files

[Maglinger, Paul]

Windows Services for Unix?



From: Darin McHenry [mailto:dmche...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How to get MS Windows systems to see RedHat Linux server files


I need to figure out How to make Microsoft Windows 2003 servers and XP
workstations view and manipulate a RedHat Linux Server Directories and
files.  Any suggestions or points in the direction of information on
doing this?
 
Thanks,
Darin McHenry
SLL-BOCES
Computer Technician

 

 


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Data closet monitoring

[Craig Gauss]

We have a new data closet being built.  We used to purchase APC
AP9319X446 for monitoring but I see those are discontinued.  Does anyone
have any suggestions for devices to monitor the temp and humidity of a
data closet?
 

Craig Gauss,  Technical Supervisor/Security Officer
Riverview Hospital Association
Phone: 715-423-6060 ext. 8572



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~