Antivirus Product comparisons, Vipre not included ?

2010-06-28 Thread Erik Goldoff
http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2010/06/antivirus-product-testing-cha
nging.php

 

Wonder how Vipre fairs with this crowd 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '


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RE: Slow spam day?

2010-06-28 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Crap?!?  Heck, if it worked here let's ask them what they did and do the
same thing with insert controversial political subject here.

 

From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Slow spam day?

 

Crap... BP top killed the wrong thing.

 

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:m...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 5:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Slow spam day?

 

A few weeks ago, I couldn't believe the heavy amount of spam I was
receiving, and then, for the last 2 weeks, it's like someone turned off
the spiggit!

 

Murray 

 

 



From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Slow spam day?

Did someone pull the plug on Nigeria and China?
 
Barely had any spam today.
 
I'm getting worried about the hundreds of millions I'm losing in
unclaimed dead Nigerian king accounts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Antivirus Product comparisons, Vipre not included ?

2010-06-28 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Someone will have to suggest to NSS that they include it in their next
update.

And let's hope that their methodology is made *somewhat* transparent going
forward.  (Not so much that vendors can simply game the system, but enough
that controversy over the effectiveness and relevance of the tests is
minimized.)

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2010/06/antivirus-product-testing-changing.php



 Wonder how Vipre fairs with this crowd 



 *Erik Goldoff***

 *IT  Consultant*

 *Systems, Networks,  Security *

 '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: How to Xcopy files with a date range and owner

2010-06-28 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Brumbaugh, Luke
luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com wrote:
 That is what I am presently doing but if I could skinny down by getting
 files changed only by that owner, it would greatly reduce size.

  You could do this with the find utility from the Cygwin Unix tools port.

  This would find files I own which were modified between 30 and 60 days ago:

find -user BSCOTT -a -ctime +30 -a -ctime -60

  Redirect the output to a file.  Then do something to copy from that
list of files.  You could do FOR /F %i IN (find.out) DO COPY %i
c:\dest, for example, although invoking COPY seriallly is going to be
slow.  Better would be something that can take a list of files.

  Note that find utility from the http://unxutils.sf.net/ and
http://gnuwin32.sf.net/ ports are both broken for this.  The former
always returns user for the user ID, and the later always returns
the user ID of the current user.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Antivirus Product comparisons, Vipre not included ?

2010-06-28 Thread Alex Eckelberry
Yeah, we'll find out what's going on here and get into the next report.

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Antivirus Product comparisons, Vipre not included ?

Someone will have to suggest to NSS that they include it in their next update.

And let's hope that their methodology is made *somewhat* transparent going 
forward.  (Not so much that vendors can simply game the system, but enough that 
controversy over the effectiveness and relevance of the tests is minimized.)

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Erik Goldoff 
egold...@gmail.commailto:egold...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2010/06/antivirus-product-testing-changing.php

Wonder how Vipre fairs with this crowd 

Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks,  Security
'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '










~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

HP dx2400 Power Supply

2010-06-28 Thread James Kerr
Any know if these machines use a proprietary PSU? It looks pretty standard 
to me.


James 



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: HP dx2400 Power Supply

2010-06-28 Thread John Aldrich
Don't know myself, but I do have to say I was working on an HP Presario
tower and had to replace the power supply. Turned out it was ever so
slightly non-standard. There was a tab sticking out of the case where the
power connector went. I just bent it out of the way myself. :-)




-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: HP dx2400 Power Supply

Any know if these machines use a proprietary PSU? It looks pretty standard 
to me.

James 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Verizon FIOS for Small Business

2010-06-28 Thread justino garcia
can't you connect your cisco gear in to thier ont.
I setup one office, and the fios tech just left me with ethernet from the
ONT, and I then could setup my firewall with the static ips provided by
fios. ethernet from ONT to A public Switch then the other firewalls connect
to the public switch, and each one is set with a static ip.

You only need the actiontec router, if you also going to use fios tv.

Anyone know if you can connect your own SMB grade firewall / nat device /
router to fios tv ???

On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:52 PM, greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net wrote:

  Yes, static IP, business account.  They will hand you an Ethernet right
 from the ONT they install which actually terminates the fiber to your
 premise.



 As someone mentioned, if you are using their TV service then no it requires
 it to work.



 Greg



 *From:* Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 25, 2010 8:48 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Cc:* Greg Sweers

 *Subject:* RE: Verizon FIOS for Small Business



 Does Verizon let you replace the Actiontec router?  I am working on a 120
 site ADSL roll-out and I am fighting with Verizon, Covad and att to let us
 use the cisco 881 G and not there DSL modem.  I would like my design to only
 have one box on site.



 Cheers

 Ryan





 *From:* Chyka, Robert [mailto:bch...@medaille.edu]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 25, 2010 9:34 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Verizon FIOS for Small Business



 nice, yes I will use a Cisco 5505.  Great information.  Seems like for 32
 users and 3 VPN users it should work fine.  Yep planned on ripping their
 router out.



 Bob


  --

 *From:* greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:
 greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 25, 2010 9:26 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Verizon FIOS for Small Business

 We have a mix of customers from 100 meg fiber w/SLA’s from a Tier 1 down to
 DSL.  The majority of my customers have moved to FIOS 20/5 or 50/20 and it
 works quite well.  I cannot think of any customer who has been down other
 than power issues or their actiontec router and the bandwidth while not
 guaranteed always tests quite high.



 Of course when you are talking about an SMB with 10 users if they are
 getting 40 vs 50…not really a big problem.. J



 Their router..actiontec…piece of garbage…  That’s the only piece.  Put in a
 real firewall and experience troublefree internet.  You don’t have to use
 their router at all.  They will give you an Ethernet handoff.



 Greg



 *From:* Chyka, Robert [mailto:bch...@medaille.edu]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 25, 2010 9:14 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Verizon FIOS for Small Business



 Is anyone using FIOS for a small office?  I have a side job that came up
 for a medical building. They have 32 users and 3 people that will need to
 VPN into the network from remote satelite offices.



 I know FIOS bandwidth isn't guaranteed but will I be safe getting
 35meg/35meg or 50/20 for this amount of users that need internet/vpn
 access?  I have a cisco 5505 that will sit behind the FIOS router.



 Thanks for the input.



 Bob














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RE: HP dx2400 Power Supply

2010-06-28 Thread Joseph Heaton
Case mods rock!   lol

 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 6/28/2010 12:41 PM 
Don't know myself, but I do have to say I was working on an HP Presario
tower and had to replace the power supply. Turned out it was ever so
slightly non-standard. There was a tab sticking out of the case where the
power connector went. I just bent it out of the way myself. :-)




-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: HP dx2400 Power Supply

Any know if these machines use a proprietary PSU? It looks pretty standard 
to me.

James 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Verizon FIOS for Small Business

2010-06-28 Thread Andrew S. Baker
The TV needs certain configuration in the firewall/router, and not all of it
is exposed in the GUI, so it might be hard to replicate.  If I could figure
out how to do it, I'd get their router out of the way and get my VPN tunnels
back to normal.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:49 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote:

 can't you connect your cisco gear in to thier ont.
 I setup one office, and the fios tech just left me with ethernet from the
 ONT, and I then could setup my firewall with the static ips provided by
 fios. ethernet from ONT to A public Switch then the other firewalls connect
 to the public switch, and each one is set with a static ip.

 You only need the actiontec router, if you also going to use fios tv.

 Anyone know if you can connect your own SMB grade firewall / nat device /
 router to fios tv ???


 On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:52 PM, greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net wrote:

  Yes, static IP, business account.  They will hand you an Ethernet right
 from the ONT they install which actually terminates the fiber to your
 premise.



 As someone mentioned, if you are using their TV service then no it
 requires it to work.



 Greg



 *From:* Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 25, 2010 8:48 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Cc:* Greg Sweers

 *Subject:* RE: Verizon FIOS for Small Business



 Does Verizon let you replace the Actiontec router?  I am working on a 120
 site ADSL roll-out and I am fighting with Verizon, Covad and att to let us
 use the cisco 881 G and not there DSL modem.  I would like my design to only
 have one box on site.



 Cheers

 Ryan





 *From:* Chyka, Robert [mailto:bch...@medaille.edu]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 25, 2010 9:34 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Verizon FIOS for Small Business



 nice, yes I will use a Cisco 5505.  Great information.  Seems like for 32
 users and 3 VPN users it should work fine.  Yep planned on ripping their
 router out.



 Bob


  --

 *From:* greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:
 greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 25, 2010 9:26 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Verizon FIOS for Small Business

 We have a mix of customers from 100 meg fiber w/SLA’s from a Tier 1 down
 to DSL.  The majority of my customers have moved to FIOS 20/5 or 50/20 and
 it works quite well.  I cannot think of any customer who has been down other
 than power issues or their actiontec router and the bandwidth while not
 guaranteed always tests quite high.



 Of course when you are talking about an SMB with 10 users if they are
 getting 40 vs 50…not really a big problem.. J



 Their router..actiontec…piece of garbage…  That’s the only piece.  Put in
 a real firewall and experience troublefree internet.  You don’t have to use
 their router at all.  They will give you an Ethernet handoff.



 Greg



 *From:* Chyka, Robert [mailto:bch...@medaille.edu]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 25, 2010 9:14 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Verizon FIOS for Small Business



 Is anyone using FIOS for a small office?  I have a side job that came up
 for a medical building. They have 32 users and 3 people that will need to
 VPN into the network from remote satelite offices.



 I know FIOS bandwidth isn't guaranteed but will I be safe getting
 35meg/35meg or 50/20 for this amount of users that need internet/vpn
 access?  I have a cisco 5505 that will sit behind the FIOS router.



 Thanks for the input.



 Bob














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 IT-TECH







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Archiving Solution

2010-06-28 Thread Mike Tellson
My company is looking to implement an archiving solution for both file
servers and exchange mailboxes.  After several vendors came out and gave
a dog and pony show the two products that appear to be what we are
looking for are CommVault Simpana and Sunbelt's Exchange archiver  File
archiver.  Does anyone on this list have experience with either of these
products?  What are your opinions of each (good, bad, or ugly)?


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Archiving Solution

2010-06-28 Thread Michael B. Smith
Uh, not disparaging the Sunbelt solution in the least, but these two products 
are kind of at different ends of the product spectrum.

Simpana is an enterprise solution, and does a lot more than Sunbelt's solution. 
Sunbelt's solution is targeted at the small-and-mid-market company.

Kinda like comparing, uh, tangerines and grapefruit?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Mike Tellson [mailto:micha...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Archiving Solution

My company is looking to implement an archiving solution for both file servers 
and exchange mailboxes.  After several vendors came out and gave a dog and 
pony show the two products that appear to be what we are looking for are 
CommVault Simpana and Sunbelt's Exchange archiver  File archiver.  Does anyone 
on this list have experience with either of these products?  What are your 
opinions of each (good, bad, or ugly)?





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Archiving Solution

2010-06-28 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 14:16, Mike Tellson
micha...@colonialsavings.com wrote:
 My company is looking to implement an archiving solution for both file
 servers and exchange mailboxes.  After several vendors came out and gave a
 “dog and pony show” the two products that appear to be what we are looking
 for are CommVault Simpana and Sunbelt’s Exchange archiver  File archiver.
 Does anyone on this list have experience with either of these products?
 What are your opinions of each (good, bad, or ugly)?

I have some peripheral experience with the Sunbelt stuff - I didn't
implement it myself, and it was given to one of my minions by the IT
manager, which pissed me off no end.

 o- Don't mix the implementation of the two products - Just.
Don't. In particular, don't mix the archive files into the same
directories.

 o- Make sure you don't throw random crappy old hardware at it.

My next points are true of any complex solution like this:

 o- Don't give it to a junior sysadmin to implement.

 o- Make sure you have a comprehensive plan for implementation and testing

Specific issues that come to mind immediately:

 o- We had to make exceptions for several different file types
(.mdb, CAD drawings, and some others) because the clients couldn't
stand the wait time for the retrieval from the archiver, and the
client would hang, and then we'd have to unarchive the file manually.

 o- Once the emails and files have been archived and mingled in
the directories created on the archive server, there is no
distinguishing them, in any way.

We cheaped out and used an older server with poor RAID hardware for
the OS drives, and we're still paying the price.

There are other problems, but I'll leave you with a bit of philosophy:

 o- Adding more disk is probably cheaper than trying to do file
archiving. The cost of the software and the maintenance/management
overhead almost certainly more expensive than adding more disk.

 o- Email archiving is the same story with one caveat: the only
real justification for it: Legal protection. If you need email
archiving for regulatory compliance, customer service or contractual
issues, you're good to go. Otherwise, don't do it.

Kurt

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Archiving Solution

2010-06-28 Thread Andrew S. Baker
I agree on all points but the email archival.

Meaning, I think email archival is desirable in a wide range of
circumstances including the regulatory ones.

File archival, however, is best served by not having to do it at all, or
implementing better document management on a whole so that one does not end
up with 9000 different versions of files that people feel they absolutely
*need*.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 14:16, Mike Tellson
 micha...@colonialsavings.com wrote:
  My company is looking to implement an archiving solution for both file
  servers and exchange mailboxes.  After several vendors came out and gave
 a
  “dog and pony show” the two products that appear to be what we are
 looking
  for are CommVault Simpana and Sunbelt’s Exchange archiver  File
 archiver.
  Does anyone on this list have experience with either of these products?
  What are your opinions of each (good, bad, or ugly)?

 I have some peripheral experience with the Sunbelt stuff - I didn't
 implement it myself, and it was given to one of my minions by the IT
 manager, which pissed me off no end.

 o- Don't mix the implementation of the two products - Just.
 Don't. In particular, don't mix the archive files into the same
 directories.

 o- Make sure you don't throw random crappy old hardware at it.

 My next points are true of any complex solution like this:

 o- Don't give it to a junior sysadmin to implement.

 o- Make sure you have a comprehensive plan for implementation and
 testing

 Specific issues that come to mind immediately:

 o- We had to make exceptions for several different file types
 (.mdb, CAD drawings, and some others) because the clients couldn't
 stand the wait time for the retrieval from the archiver, and the
 client would hang, and then we'd have to unarchive the file manually.

 o- Once the emails and files have been archived and mingled in
 the directories created on the archive server, there is no
 distinguishing them, in any way.

 We cheaped out and used an older server with poor RAID hardware for
 the OS drives, and we're still paying the price.

 There are other problems, but I'll leave you with a bit of philosophy:

 o- Adding more disk is probably cheaper than trying to do file
 archiving. The cost of the software and the maintenance/management
 overhead almost certainly more expensive than adding more disk.

 o- Email archiving is the same story with one caveat: the only
 real justification for it: Legal protection. If you need email
 archiving for regulatory compliance, customer service or contractual
 issues, you're good to go. Otherwise, don't do it.

 Kurt



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Archiving Solution

2010-06-28 Thread David Lum
What I've implemented in a small (50 user, 500GB total server space 
environment) with good success and happy users: ROBOCOPY to an archive share 
(in this case, 1TB USB HDD hung off a server). Same users allowed to RWXD on 
non-archived files have READ ONLY to the archives. File/folder structure is 
identical to active files. The only folders archived by the robocopy are the 
shares on the file/print servers.

We're considering doing something similar at %dayjob%  with 350 users and a LOT 
more data - get old data off expensive SAN disks and onto cheaper and less 
performance critical local server drives.

Depends on the environment and why you want to archive. In the small client it 
was to not unnecessarily pay for online backup of files that simply aren't THAT 
business critical, and those archive files are disk-to-disk backup to a NAS at 
their site 2 miles away.

Yeah, doesn't help the OP AT ALL.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 3:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Archiving Solution

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 14:16, Mike Tellson
micha...@colonialsavings.com wrote:
 My company is looking to implement an archiving solution for both file
 servers and exchange mailboxes.  After several vendors came out and gave a
 “dog and pony show” the two products that appear to be what we are looking
 for are CommVault Simpana and Sunbelt’s Exchange archiver  File archiver.
 Does anyone on this list have experience with either of these products?
 What are your opinions of each (good, bad, or ugly)?

I have some peripheral experience with the Sunbelt stuff - I didn't
implement it myself, and it was given to one of my minions by the IT
manager, which pissed me off no end.

 o- Don't mix the implementation of the two products - Just.
Don't. In particular, don't mix the archive files into the same
directories.

 o- Make sure you don't throw random crappy old hardware at it.

My next points are true of any complex solution like this:

 o- Don't give it to a junior sysadmin to implement.

 o- Make sure you have a comprehensive plan for implementation and testing

Specific issues that come to mind immediately:

 o- We had to make exceptions for several different file types
(.mdb, CAD drawings, and some others) because the clients couldn't
stand the wait time for the retrieval from the archiver, and the
client would hang, and then we'd have to unarchive the file manually.

 o- Once the emails and files have been archived and mingled in
the directories created on the archive server, there is no
distinguishing them, in any way.

We cheaped out and used an older server with poor RAID hardware for
the OS drives, and we're still paying the price.

There are other problems, but I'll leave you with a bit of philosophy:

 o- Adding more disk is probably cheaper than trying to do file
archiving. The cost of the software and the maintenance/management
overhead almost certainly more expensive than adding more disk.

 o- Email archiving is the same story with one caveat: the only
real justification for it: Legal protection. If you need email
archiving for regulatory compliance, customer service or contractual
issues, you're good to go. Otherwise, don't do it.

Kurt

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Archiving Solution

2010-06-28 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
     o- Email archiving is the same story with one caveat: the only
 real justification for it: Legal protection.

  The main reason I want to go after email archiving Real Soon Now is
because Outlook really starts to suck mud once the OST gets up into
the multi-gigabyte range.  And archiving to PST sucks as much or more,
in different ways.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Archiving Solution

2010-06-28 Thread Michael B. Smith
Move to exchange 2010 and/or outlook 2007 sp2 and above.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 7:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Archiving Solution

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
     o- Email archiving is the same story with one caveat: the only 
 real justification for it: Legal protection.

  The main reason I want to go after email archiving Real Soon Now is because 
Outlook really starts to suck mud once the OST gets up into the multi-gigabyte 
range.  And archiving to PST sucks as much or more, in different ways.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Archiving Solution

2010-06-28 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 Move to exchange 2010

  That's the plan.

  Real Soon Now.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Archiving Solution

2010-06-28 Thread Michael B. Smith
Outlook 2007 sp2 and above can help ameliorate the issue until you do that.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Archiving Solution

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 Move to exchange 2010

  That's the plan.

  Real Soon Now.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: Archiving Solution

2010-06-28 Thread Jim Holmgren
Same here - I've begun preliminary work on our Ex 2010 architecture.  There are 
No Mailbox Limits here at %work% - I'm stunned and dismayed.   
 
We are leaning heavily toward ComVault's solution as we already have a ComVault 
infrastructure and trained staff on-hand.  I played with it in training and 
read the docs.  Seems like a pretty good solution.   Introducing an Archival 
solution should help a whole bunch.
 
Jim
 
 



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Mon 6/28/2010 8:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Archiving Solution



Outlook 2007 sp2 and above can help ameliorate the issue until you do that.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Archiving Solution

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 Move to exchange 2010

  That's the plan.

  Real Soon Now.

-- Ben

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