RE: [OT] Citibank worse at security than Sony

[Matthew B Ames]

As a software engineer I would feel rather guilty to develop a system that was 
that poor. I used to have a Citi credit card. I had better check it is no 
long active.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 15 June 2011 04:36
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT] Citibank worse at security than Sony

  So... 200,000 or so Citigroup customers have had their person info
stolen.  Someone logged in to one account properly, then changed the
account number in the URL to someone else, and the site happily served
up that account instead.  I hesitate to even call the first party an
"attacker".  Is it really an attack if the bank just leaves a pile of
money sitting on the sidewalk and someone takes it?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2003393/How-Citigroup-hackers-broke-door-using-banks-website.html

  Some banker fat cats need to go to jail for this.  This is
incompetence of the highest order.

-- Ben

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RE: [OT] Citibank worse at security than Sony

[Ken Schaefer]

I doubt any fat cat bankers signed off, knowingly, on an insecure site. People 
going to jail would be the IT folks who should have known better.

That said, do you know the ins and outs of every single system you've got 
control over?

Cheers
Ken


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 15 June 2011 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT] Citibank worse at security than Sony

  So... 200,000 or so Citigroup customers have had their person info stolen.  
Someone logged in to one account properly, then changed the account number in 
the URL to someone else, and the site happily served up that account instead.  
I hesitate to even call the first party an "attacker".  Is it really an attack 
if the bank just leaves a pile of money sitting on the sidewalk and someone 
takes it?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2003393/How-Citigroup-hackers-broke-door-using-banks-website.html

  Some banker fat cats need to go to jail for this.  This is incompetence of 
the highest order.

-- Ben


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Re: Tuesday funny - SOSDD, I suppose...

[Kurt Buff]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 21:03, Kurt Buff  wrote:
> Closing the barn door after the horses have fled...
>
>
>
> RSA Adds Chief Security Officer After Hack
> http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/management/230500249

Not to mention the irony of a security company not having a CSO in the
first place...

Kurt

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[OT] Citibank worse at security than Sony

[Ben Scott]

  So... 200,000 or so Citigroup customers have had their person info
stolen.  Someone logged in to one account properly, then changed the
account number in the URL to someone else, and the site happily served
up that account instead.  I hesitate to even call the first party an
"attacker".  Is it really an attack if the bank just leaves a pile of
money sitting on the sidewalk and someone takes it?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2003393/How-Citigroup-hackers-broke-door-using-banks-website.html

  Some banker fat cats need to go to jail for this.  This is
incompetence of the highest order.

-- Ben

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Re: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

[Bill Humphries]

Yeah, not that I have tons of ESXi experience, but I have just removed 
the snapshots prior to the move.  I'm guessing you don't want to do this 
in case you need to rollback the server to a previous snapshot?


Stefan Jafs wrote:

And you can not remove the snapshots?

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Mark Robinson > wrote:


Thanks Scott.  Yes that’s what I thought!  However I’ve just fired
up one of the VM’s (with Snapshots) that I copied over to the new
host and the VM is only utilizing the original virtual disks, not
the data subsequently stored within the snapshots.  So I have a
running VM, just without half of the data I had previously. So I
need to somehow encourage VMServer to acknowledge the snapshots.

 


Has anyone successfully migrated VM’s with snapshots to a new
installation of VMWare Server before?

*From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu
]
*Sent:* 14 June 2011 22:24


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host -
VMWare Server for Windows

 


I’ve not done this in particular, but I would expect that you
could manually move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas
by moving the whole folder to a new machine and it would work fine.

 


*From:* Mark Robinson [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org
]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
Server for Windows

 


Hi,

 


I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a
machine which hosts 3 VM’s for test lab purposes.  I want to move
these VM’s to a new machine and decommission the existing
machine.  I have migrated one machine successfully to the new host
and this is running along merrily.  However I suspect the
remaining two VM’s may be a different proposition altogether as
they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I have migrated
already did not have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved this
themselves and could give me any pointers?  I have read a couple
of articles around fixing the CID chain.  Is this necessary?  If
so how did you do it?  I am about to folllow this advice:

 


http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html

 


Many Thanks,

 


Mark

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Re: Monday funny...

[Kurt Buff]

Something very like that...

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 15:51, Jon Harris  wrote:
> Like maybe boarding a ship with you can see rats climbing off it?
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>>
>> Well, it is to me, anyway.
>>
>> I've joined the Infrastructure group on LinkedIn, and a couple of
>> others as well. I get regular notifications from LinkedIn regarding
>> "Jobs I Might Be Interested In"
>>
>> One of today's postings was "IT Infrastructure Program Manager" at
>> "Sony Computer Entertainment America LLC - San Francisco Bay Area"
>>
>> That's a tad overdue, methinks...
>>
>> Kurt
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Re: User accounts for shared folders

[Ben Scott]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
> I suppose it's the different philosophies that are represented by:
>
>     "Don't put all of your eggs in one basket"
> and
>     "Put all of your eggs in one basket and watch the basket very carefully"

  "A twin engine airplane will have twice as many engine problems as a
single engine plane."  Sometimes you really want that second engine,
but make sure it's worth the trouble.

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RE: Dell Powerdge Disk Failure

[Mark Robinson]

Thanks Jon.  I sorted it in the end by clearing the foreign config on
two disks from a redundant server in the BIOS configuration utility and
created a mirror whilst preserving the Raid5 array.  However in future I
will bear in mind that Dell support is free!

 

Cheers

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 15 June 2011 00:07
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell Powerdge Disk Failure

 

Dell PowerEdge systems keep the RAID config for any one disk or set of
disks on the disk as well as on a CMOS(?) chip.  I had one a couple of
years ago complaining about the RAID configuration of a reconfigured
server finding multiple copies of configs and was getting confused as to
which one to use.  I had forgotten to clear the on-disk one in my haste
to get a working server up and running.  Dell walked me through the
processing as soon as they heard the error.  The server was about 15
years old at that point and way way out of support.  It took them a bit
to even find the documentation to walk me through the fix but they did.

 

Jon

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Shauna Hensala  wrote:

http://www.freeraidrecovery.com/

Shauna Hensala









Subject: Dell Powerdge Disk Failure

Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:45:33 +0100
From: mark.robin...@cips.org
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Hi all,

 

I'm looking for some advice with a Dell PowerEdge server at one of my
clients.  I am a HP man predominantly so my knowledge of Dell disk
configurations is minimal.

 

Issue:

The Dell server in question is reporting a fault on the LED display 

"The following virtual disks are missing: (0)

If you proceed (or load the configuration utility), these virtual disks
will be removed from your configuration. If you wish to use them at a
later time, they will have to be imported. If you believe these virtual
disks should be present, please power off your system and check your
cables to ensure all disks are present. Press any key to continue, or
'C' to load the configuration utility."

The disks have been re-seated and cables have been checked yet the error
still persists.  

 

The server has only four hard disks split into two virtual disks.
Unfortunately I cannot simply hot-swap the hard disk with the fault as
there is only a single system disk - there is no mirroring.  However the
second virtual disk and subsequent 'Data' partition uses a RAID5
configuration split over the three remaining HDDs.  I am not so fussed
about the system disk as I have spares and I can rebuild the system
partition but this time with a mirrored configuration over two disks.
What I am worried about is the data on the disks split over the RAID5
partition.  It is imperative that I retrieve the data on this partition.
I am looking for advice on how best to go about this please. If I remove
the faulty disk, insert two blank spares, create a virtual disk, mirror
them and then build the OS, will the second, existing virtual disk in
the RAID5 partition be available to the OS?  Should I try and retrieve
the data from the disks in the RAID5 partition before attempting to so
anything (if so, what would be the best method for this?)? 

 

I would greatly appreciate any help on this.

 

Many thanks,

 

Mark

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Re: Dell Powerdge Disk Failure

[Jon Harris]

Dell PowerEdge systems keep the RAID config for any one disk or set of disks
on the disk as well as on a CMOS(?) chip.  I had one a couple of years ago
complaining about the RAID configuration of a reconfigured server finding
multiple copies of configs and was getting confused as to which one to use.
I had forgotten to clear the on-disk one in my haste to get a working server
up and running.  Dell walked me through the processing as soon as they heard
the error.  The server was about 15 years old at that point and way way out
of support.  It took them a bit to even find the documentation to walk me
through the fix but they did.

Jon

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Shauna Hensala  wrote:

> http://www.freeraidrecovery.com/
>
> [image: Red rose]Shauna Hensala
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Subject: Dell Powerdge Disk Failure
> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:45:33 +0100
> From: mark.robin...@cips.org
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
>
>  Hi all,
>
>
>
> I’m looking for some advice with a Dell PowerEdge server at one of my
> clients.  I am a HP man predominantly so my knowledge of Dell disk
> configurations is minimal.
>
>
>
> Issue:
>
> The Dell server in question is reporting a fault on the LED display
>
> “The following virtual disks are missing: (0)
>
> If you proceed (or load the configuration utility), these virtual disks
> will be removed from your configuration. If you wish to use them at a later
> time, they will have to be imported. If you believe these virtual disks
> should be present, please power off your system and check your cables to
> ensure all disks are present. Press any key to continue, or 'C' to load the
> configuration utility.”
>
> The disks have been re-seated and cables have been checked yet the error
> still persists.
>
>
>
> The server has only four hard disks split into two virtual disks.
>  Unfortunately I cannot simply hot-swap the hard disk with the fault as
> there is only a single system disk – there is no mirroring.  However the
> second virtual disk and subsequent ‘Data’ partition uses a RAID5
> configuration split over the three remaining HDDs.  I am not so fussed about
> the system disk as I have spares and I can rebuild the system partition but
> this time with a mirrored configuration over two disks.  What I am worried
> about is the data on the disks split over the RAID5 partition.  It is
> imperative that I retrieve the data on this partition.  I am looking for
> advice on how best to go about this please. If I remove the faulty disk,
> insert two blank spares, create a virtual disk, mirror them and then build
> the OS, will the second, existing virtual disk in the RAID5 partition be
> available to the OS?  Should I try and retrieve the data from the disks in
> the RAID5 partition before attempting to so anything (if so, what would be
> the best method for this?)?
>
>
>
> I would greatly appreciate any help on this.
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> Mark
>
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Re: Monday funny...

[Jon Harris]

Like maybe boarding a ship with you can see rats climbing off it?

Jon

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> Well, it is to me, anyway.
>
> I've joined the Infrastructure group on LinkedIn, and a couple of
> others as well. I get regular notifications from LinkedIn regarding
> "Jobs I Might Be Interested In"
>
> One of today's postings was "IT Infrastructure Program Manager" at
> "Sony Computer Entertainment America LLC - San Francisco Bay Area"
>
> That's a tad overdue, methinks...
>
> Kurt
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Re: Retaining data for extremely long times

[Jeff Steward]

Good advice.  Last time I checked DVD wad not good for long term storage
archives.  Tape is still king in that regard.

-Jeff
On Jun 14, 2011 8:32 AM, "Ben Scott"  wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
>> ... of running out of drive space.
>
> Well, 10 GB/month, 50 years, 10 * 12 * 50 = 6000 GB (plus the 300 GB
> you have now).
>
> You can buy 6 TB for, what, $300 these days? ;-) Seriously, that's
> not a lot of storage, even at current SAN prices. And it's only going
> to get cheaper. 50 years from now that will prolly fit on a $2 flash
> drive (or whatever the equivalent is then).
>
> My first thought is to keep it all online (with regular read
> verifications, if your storage doesn't do that already) and be done
> with it.
>
>> There are to be further discussions, with questions asked about access:
 how often, how quickly do they need it, etc.
>
> How often they need access is really the important one. A cave in
> Nevada is cheap, but access time stinks.
>
>> ... archive the rest to DVDs ...
>
> If you do go with offline archiving, I would store the data
> redundantly, and at different times. For example, burn a few copies
> now. Then in 5 years, burn another set of copies, and check the first
> set. Only then remove the originals from online storage. Then check
> all copies every year or so.
>
> Multiple copies at once means a single element failure doesn't kill
> you. Multiple generations means if the DVDs start to die after X
> years, you'll have time to regenerate on to new media.
>
> The cost of the above compared to the cost of keeping it online
> likely means taking it offline isn't worth it.
>
> You might be able to outsource this effectively. You'd have to
> really trust the contractor, though. If it's privacy sensitive, I'd
> suggest using your own encryption, and giving the ciphertext to the
> contractor. Just make sure you protect the keys well.
>
> -- Ben
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Re: GPO Deployed MSI Packages

[Phil Brutsche]

+1

I don't keep all upgraded packages around. I only keep the most one or
two most recent the GPO.

On 6/14/2011 4:21 PM, Crawford, Scott wrote:
> I uninstall the old package at every upgrade. Most installs are pretty
> quick and it avoids the kind of issues you’re describing.
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:13 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* GPO Deployed MSI Packages
> 
>  
> 
> What is you guys practice in the situation where you deploy an MSI, then
> deploy an
> 
> upgrade to it, and now receive an upgrade to that?
> 
>  
> 
> The gpo starts to get ugly as these add up, and the file server with
> these apps starts to
> 
> accumulate data I could otherwise archive/remove.
> 
>  
> 
> What’s the least obtrusive way to deal with this, I presume remove all
> the packages in
> 
> question one by one forcing an uninstallation, then redeploy the new one
> but how do
> 
> you ensure the order is met and it works correctly?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> jlc
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Re: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

[Stefan Jafs]

And you can not remove the snapshots?

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Mark Robinson wrote:

> Thanks Scott.  Yes that’s what I thought!  However I’ve just fired up one
> of the VM’s (with Snapshots) that I copied over to the new host and the VM
> is only utilizing the original virtual disks, not the data subsequently
> stored within the snapshots.  So I have a running VM, just without half of
> the data I had previously. So I need to somehow encourage VMServer to
> acknowledge the snapshots.
>
>
>
> Has anyone successfully migrated VM’s with snapshots to a new installation
> of VMWare Server before?
>
> *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
> *Sent:* 14 June 2011 22:24
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
> Server for Windows
>
>
>
> I’ve not done this in particular, but I would expect that you could
> manually move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas by moving the
> whole folder to a new machine and it would work fine.
>
>
>
> *From:* Mark Robinson [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server
> for Windows
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a machine
> which hosts 3 VM’s for test lab purposes.  I want to move these VM’s to a
> new machine and decommission the existing machine.  I have migrated one
> machine successfully to the new host and this is running along merrily.
> However I suspect the remaining two VM’s may be a different proposition
> altogether as they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I have migrated
> already did not have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved this themselves and
> could give me any pointers?  I have read a couple of articles around fixing
> the CID chain.  Is this necessary?  If so how did you do it?  I am about to
> folllow this advice:
>
>
>
> http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html
>
>
>
> Many Thanks,
>
>
>
> Mark
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RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

[Mark Robinson]

Thanks Scott.  Yes that's what I thought!  However I've just fired up
one of the VM's (with Snapshots) that I copied over to the new host and
the VM is only utilizing the original virtual disks, not the data
subsequently stored within the snapshots.  So I have a running VM, just
without half of the data I had previously. So I need to somehow
encourage VMServer to acknowledge the snapshots.

 

Has anyone successfully migrated VM's with snapshots to a new
installation of VMWare Server before?

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: 14 June 2011 22:24
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare
Server for Windows

 

I've not done this in particular, but I would expect that you could
manually move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas by moving
the whole folder to a new machine and it would work fine.

 

From: Mark Robinson [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server
for Windows

 

Hi,

 

I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a machine
which hosts 3 VM's for test lab purposes.  I want to move these VM's to
a new machine and decommission the existing machine.  I have migrated
one machine successfully to the new host and this is running along
merrily.  However I suspect the remaining two VM's may be a different
proposition altogether as they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I
have migrated already did not have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved
this themselves and could give me any pointers?  I have read a couple of
articles around fixing the CID chain.  Is this necessary?  If so how did
you do it?  I am about to folllow this advice:

 

http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html

 

Many Thanks,

 

Mark

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RE: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for Windows

[Crawford, Scott]

I've not done this in particular, but I would expect that you could manually 
move the vmdk files along with the snapshot deltas by moving the whole folder 
to a new machine and it would work fine.

From: Mark Robinson [mailto:mark.robin...@cips.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Move virtual machines to a new physical host - VMWare Server for 
Windows

Hi,

I have VMWare Server for Windows (the free one)  installed on a machine which 
hosts 3 VM's for test lab purposes.  I want to move these VM's to a new machine 
and decommission the existing machine.  I have migrated one machine 
successfully to the new host and this is running along merrily.  However I 
suspect the remaining two VM's may be a different proposition altogether as 
they have had snapshots taken whereas the VM I have migrated already did not 
have any snapshots.  Has anyone achieved this themselves and could give me any 
pointers?  I have read a couple of articles around fixing the CID chain.  Is 
this necessary?  If so how did you do it?  I am about to folllow this advice:

http://sanbarrow.com/sickbay-lesson-fix-cid-chain-embedded.html

Many Thanks,

Mark

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RE: GPO Deployed MSI Packages

[Crawford, Scott]

I uninstall the old package at every upgrade. Most installs are pretty quick 
and it avoids the kind of issues you're describing.

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: GPO Deployed MSI Packages

What is you guys practice in the situation where you deploy an MSI, then deploy 
an
upgrade to it, and now receive an upgrade to that?

The gpo starts to get ugly as these add up, and the file server with these apps 
starts to
accumulate data I could otherwise archive/remove.

What's the least obtrusive way to deal with this, I presume remove all the 
packages in
question one by one forcing an uninstallation, then redeploy the new one but 
how do
you ensure the order is met and it works correctly?

Thanks,
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RE: Tandberg/Cisco video streaming

[Michael B. Smith]

Cisco provides SPIFFs and marketing dollars and some hardware loans for 
projects that could lead to significant revenue down-the-road. Partners are 
expected to put some skin in the game too, in terms of training, deployment, 
and support resources. It sounds as if your partner doesn't want to put their 
skin in the game.
I'd go look for another partner. Minimally I'd have the current partner detail 
the non-zero costs and then have a face-to-face discussion with the Cisco rep 
(without the partner present).
Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Tandberg/Cisco video streaming

Anyone using Tandberg (Cisco) video conferencing product?  It looks like a good 
fit for our tele-medicine unit we are building.  The problem is a local 
reseller wants us to pay $56k for the system as part of a pilot.  I've worked 
with many vendors and products over the years, and never had to pay for piloted 
products.

The vendor claims "non-zero" costs have to be covered.  As a past contractor, 
that seems like crap to me.  You want my business, provide the product and 
support while we test it.  If it works, we'll go with you.  If not, sorry.  You 
have to spend money to get customers.

Or is this just me?  Or is this just King Cisco's business model?  We are not a 
Cisco shop otherwise.

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Tandberg/Cisco video streaming

[Tom Miller]

Anyone using Tandberg (Cisco) video conferencing product?  It looks like a good 
fit for our tele-medicine unit we are building.  The problem is a local 
reseller wants us to pay $56k for the system as part of a pilot.  I've worked 
with many vendors and products over the years, and never had to pay for piloted 
products. 
 
The vendor claims "non-zero" costs have to be covered.  As a past contractor, 
that seems like crap to me.  You want my business, provide the product and 
support while we test it.  If it works, we'll go with you.  If not, sorry.  You 
have to spend money to get customers.
 
Or is this just me?  Or is this just King Cisco's business model?  We are not a 
Cisco shop otherwise.
 
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Re: OT: Capturing video from YouTube?

[Daniel Rodriguez]

Hey, Mav. Do you still have that business card for that Truck Driving
School?
On Jun 14, 2011 3:50 PM, "Richard Stovall"  wrote:
> Negative, Ghost Rider. The pattern is full.
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:32 PM, James Rankin 
wrote:
>
>> I'll try that! I am so sick of Top Gun (abridged) now
>>
>>
>> On 13 June 2011 18:02, Daniel Rodriguez  wrote:
>>
>>> If he likes F14's, a pretty good movie with a interesting dog fight is
The
>>> Final Conflict. It has a good fight scene.
>>> On Jun 13, 2011 12:10 PM, "James Rankin"  wrote:
>>> > Is there any way to "snag" a video from YouTube or other online site?
I
>>> know
>>> > there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just
that
>>> one
>>> > of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some
>>> reason)
>>> > and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up
>>> my
>>> > laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then
>>> > firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just
>>> wondering if
>>> > anyone knew any way it could be streamlined.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > TIA,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > JRR
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
>>> into
>>> > the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
>>> able
>>> > rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
>>> such
>>> > a question."
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>>> > other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large
>>> bowie
>>> > knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said
deathmatch
>>> and
>>> > wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight
becomes
>>> > boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my
>>> two-stone
>>> > cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become
in
>>> any
>>> > way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a
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>> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
able
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such
>> a question."
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with
>> other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large
bowie
>> knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch
and
>> wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
>> boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my
two-stone
>> cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in
any
>> way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit
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Re: OT: Capturing video from YouTube?

[Richard Stovall]

Negative, Ghost Rider.  The pattern is full.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:32 PM, James Rankin  wrote:

> I'll try that! I am so sick of Top Gun (abridged) now
>
>
> On 13 June 2011 18:02, Daniel Rodriguez  wrote:
>
>> If he likes F14's, a pretty good movie with a interesting dog fight is The
>> Final Conflict. It has a good fight scene.
>>   On Jun 13, 2011 12:10 PM, "James Rankin"  wrote:
>> > Is there any way to "snag" a video from YouTube or other online site? I
>> know
>> > there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just that
>> one
>> > of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some
>> reason)
>> > and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up
>> my
>> > laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then
>> > firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just
>> wondering if
>> > anyone knew any way it could be streamlined.
>> >
>> >
>> > TIA,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > JRR
>> >
>> > --
>> > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
>> into
>> > the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
>> able
>> > rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
>> such
>> > a question."
>> >
>> > *IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its
>> contents
>> > are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black
>> helicopters
>> > like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head.
>> They
>> > will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death
>> with
>> > other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large
>> bowie
>> > knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch
>> and
>> > wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
>> > boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my
>> two-stone
>> > cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in
>> any
>> > way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a
>> bit
>> > more temperamental.*
>> >
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> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
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> other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie
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> wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
> boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone
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> way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit
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Re: OT: Capturing video from YouTube?

[Daniel Rodriguez]

Also, Flight of the Intruder is pretty good. But those are A4's. Start of
the movie is pretty good. Toward the end is also good. Depending how old
your son is you may want to sit with him while watching it because of some
of the adult themes in the movie.

I would imagine that your son likes the F14 is because of the way the wings
fold back. Some of the Anime, like Robotech and Transformers, used some of
those designs in their drawings, because, back then, it wad considered high
tech and it looked neat/cool/awesome.

Daniel
On Jun 14, 2011 3:32 PM, "James Rankin"  wrote:
> I'll try that! I am so sick of Top Gun (abridged) now
>
> On 13 June 2011 18:02, Daniel Rodriguez  wrote:
>
>> If he likes F14's, a pretty good movie with a interesting dog fight is
The
>> Final Conflict. It has a good fight scene.
>> On Jun 13, 2011 12:10 PM, "James Rankin"  wrote:
>> > Is there any way to "snag" a video from YouTube or other online site? I
>> know
>> > there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just that
>> one
>> > of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some
>> reason)
>> > and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up
my
>> > laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then
>> > firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just
wondering
>> if
>> > anyone knew any way it could be streamlined.
>> >
>> >
>> > TIA,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > JRR
>> >
>> > --
>> > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into
>> > the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
>> able
>> > rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
>> such
>> > a question."
>> >
>> > *IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its
>> contents
>> > are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black
>> helicopters
>> > like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head.
>> They
>> > will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death
>> with
>> > other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large
>> bowie
>> > knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said
deathmatch
>> and
>> > wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight
becomes
>> > boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my
>> two-stone
>> > cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in
>> any
>> > way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a
bit
>> > more temperamental.*
>> >
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Re: OT: Capturing video from YouTube?

[James Rankin]

I'll try that! I am so sick of Top Gun (abridged) now

On 13 June 2011 18:02, Daniel Rodriguez  wrote:

> If he likes F14's, a pretty good movie with a interesting dog fight is The
> Final Conflict. It has a good fight scene.
> On Jun 13, 2011 12:10 PM, "James Rankin"  wrote:
> > Is there any way to "snag" a video from YouTube or other online site? I
> know
> > there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just that
> one
> > of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some
> reason)
> > and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up my
> > laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then
> > firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just wondering
> if
> > anyone knew any way it could be streamlined.
> >
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> >
> >
> > JRR
> >
> > --
> > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> > the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
> able
> > rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
> such
> > a question."
> >
> > *IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its
> contents
> > are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black
> helicopters
> > like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head.
> They
> > will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death
> with
> > other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large
> bowie
> > knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch
> and
> > wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
> > boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my
> two-stone
> > cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in
> any
> > way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit
> > more temperamental.*
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~  ~
> >
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a question."

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will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with
other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie
knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and
wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone
cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any
way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit
more temperamental.*

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Re: User accounts for shared folders

[Kurt Buff]

Some classes of mistakes are easier to contain if permissions are
maintained at both points, it's true.

However, it's somewhat harder to manipulate share permissions remotely
than it is NTFS permissions, and it's two things to remember to do
rather than one when setting permissions. I've run into situations
over the years where share permissions have clouded troubleshooting
when others have applied them, and NTFS permissions are robust enough
that they're enough for my purposes.

I suppose it's the different philosophies that are represented by:

 "Don't put all of your eggs in one basket"
and
 "Put all of your eggs in one basket and watch the basket very carefully"

Either works.

Kurt

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 08:40, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> It may be common, and can even be said to ease administration somewhat, but
> I prefer to apply appropriate security at *both* levels.
>
> Makes containment of mistakes much easier.
>
> ASB (Professional Bio)
> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>>
>> BTW - it's common to have shares with permissions of Everyone (or
>> Domain Users, or Authenticated Users) with Full Control, then
>> separately administer the NTFS permissions underneath the share, as
>> that makes administration much easier.
>>
>> It can become very confusing, for instance, if the Share permissions
>> are Everyone (or some other group) with Read-Only, that controls
>> access to the file system underneath, and nobody (including Domain
>> Admins, etc.) can write/modify the files or directories, when
>> accessing them through the network share - even though the NTFS
>> permissions would otherwise are set to Modify or Full Control.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:03, Tammy Stewart
>>  wrote:
>> > Thanks Kurt,
>> >
>> > Makes sense. They likely logged onto the infected workstation as domain
>> > admin. I can't recall now but will find out. Not sure if they let users
>> > have
>> > full control on the shares.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tammy
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:05 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders
>> >
>> > I see.
>> >
>> > What you're saying implies that the infected workstation talked with
>> > the machine hosting the shares. That's standard - and if the malware
>> > is running in the context of a user that has the Full Control
>> > permissions for the shares, it can strip out or add permissions at
>> > will, without being resident on the machine hosting the shares.
>> >
>> > I have found that all too often folks are given Full Control
>> > permissions, instead of Modify, which is all most people should have -
>> > the only difference between them is that Full Control grants the
>> > ability to modify permissions.
>> >
>> > Kurt
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 13:05, Tammy Stewart
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Hi Kurt,
>> >>
>> >> It is the NTFS permissions on the shares. (right click folder>
>> >> properties>
>> >> security) (not who on the network have access)
>> >> Oddly enough other folders that are not shared have all the usual
>> >> accounts
>> >> listed.
>> >>
>> >> It is a file infecting virus (chir.b) from a few machines hitting the
>> > shares
>> >> -- however the server that had the shares hit did not have the OS hit.
>> > Just
>> >> shares so it did not get to memory or make registry modifications.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Tammy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:42 PM
>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> >> Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:57, Tammy Stewart
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>> Ran into something interesting today t-shooting a virus issue on a
>> >> network.
>> >>>
>> >>> On every share there is no system account listed. Only Domain admins &
>> >>> domain users.
>> >>>
>> >>> My google kung-fu seems to be lacking today but is there
>> >>> anything/reason
>> >> why
>> >>> the system account would not show up?
>> >>>
>> >>> System account does exist on the machine - non shared directories have
>> > it.
>> >>> Just the shares that seem affected.
>> >>>
>> >>> Windows 2003 domain (if that makes any difference)
>> >>>
>> >>> Not just the system with infected files on the shares - all the
>> >>> servers
>> >> are
>> >>> like this including clean ones (that have not been touched by the
>> >>> virus
>> >> yet)
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyone have any kb articles or something I can look at that would
>> >>> explain
>> >>> this? (and hopefully put them back to normal)
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks!
>> >>>
>> >>> Tammy
>> >>
>> >> When you say that the share doesn't list the System account - do you
>> >> mean the Share permissions, or the NTFS permissions?
>> >>
>> >> Shares never list System for permissions, AFAIK.
>> >

Re: User accounts for shared folders

[Kurt Buff]

Wasn't necessarily stating a should/shoudn't - was stating my
expectations and understanding, which was clearly faulty.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 08:52, Ken Schaefer  wrote:
> LocalSystem has full control over the local machine, and can authenticate as 
> machinename$ to remote machines (which is what would be required for services 
> that are running as LocalSystem but need to access remote machines, without 
> some proxy process). Additionally for LocalSystem to access shares on the 
> same machine, it would still have full control (unless you change the perms). 
> Anyhoo, the previous is merely technical limitations - i.e. what is possible. 
> Am still curious to know why it shouldn't have that access.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2011 10:41 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders
>
> I expected that System would have access to shares because they are normally 
> for network access, and according to everything I've read, System doesn't 
> have that. AFAIK, System is only for access to resources local to the machine.
>
> Someone else noted that System is used in DFS (FRS), which is surprising to 
> me, but I don't think he'd be joshing me, so I believe him, because I have 
> never had cause to use DFS.
>
> Now, if System can access shares that are local to the machine, that's 
> perhaps not quite as surprising, but does seem a fairly odd way of doing 
> things.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 04:45, Ken Schaefer  wrote:
>> Why shouldn't "system" talk to shares?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ken
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2011 3:55 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders
>>
>> Why would you do that, when System isn't supposed to be able to talk to 
>> shares? Has something changed drastically in later versions of of Windows, 
>> that is, after Win2k3?
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:45, Crawford, Scott  wrote:
>>> System on share permissions may be rare, but its certainly not out of the 
>>> question. I've got share permissions that specify System.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:57, Tammy Stewart 
>>>  wrote:
 Ran into something interesting today t-shooting a virus issue on a network.

 On every share there is no system account listed. Only Domain admins
 & domain users.

 My google kung-fu seems to be lacking today but is there
 anything/reason why the system account would not show up?

 System account does exist on the machine – non shared directories have it.
 Just the shares that seem affected.

 Windows 2003 domain (if that makes any difference)

 Not just the system with infected files on the shares – all the
 servers are like this including clean ones (that have not been
 touched by the virus yet)

 Anyone have any kb articles or something I can look at that would
 explain this? (and hopefully put them back to normal)

 Thanks!

 Tammy
>
>
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RE: Capturing video from YouTube?

[Rod Trent]

+2

 

From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?

 

This should be good...where's my popcorn?

 - WJR



On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:24, Eric Wittersheim 
wrote:

Hey Gary, 

 

Why don't you unsub, no need to be a jag on this list.  It is very common
for people to pitch in their opinion using the +1 here.

 

Eric

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Shauna Hensala  wrote:

+1!!

Shauna Hensala







  _  

From: crawfo...@evangel.edu


To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?

Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:11:25 + 

 

Well, to be fair, it does add some endorsement to the original answer so
it's at least slightly more valuable than a reference to primate genitalia.

 

From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?

 

Cock-gobblin' monkey nuts. 

 

I think I'll randomly post that whenever I feel like it now, as it adds
exactly as much frigging value as an unqualified waste of space '+1'.
There's not even a goddamn post-count, which is the BS origination of it.  

-- 

Gary K. Slinger

 


On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Shauna Hensala  wrote:


+1
Shauna Hensala






> From: sca...@gmail.com
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:15:13 -0500
> 
> VLC Player will. Which is the only Media Player I ever use.
> 
> Even deployed it at work because of all the weird formats of audio/video
we
> get handed to us from various projects.
> 
> Sam
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
> 
> Well, for one, youtube stores the files in .FLV format, and not too many
> players I've found understand that format. :D
> 
> 
> 
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:38 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?
> 
> +1
> 
> --
> ME2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Joseph L. Casale
>  wrote:
> Uh, that would degrade the quality significantly?
> Why not dump the actual movie file sent to you from youtube?
>  
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:19 AM
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
>  
> There are multiple YouTube downloaders out there, but you have to be
> careful.  Some contain scumware.
>  
> The safest way is to use something like SnagIT to capture/record the video
> while it's playing.
>  
> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:10 PM
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Capturing video from YouTube?
>  
> Is there any way to "snag" a video from YouTube or other online site? I
know
> there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just that
one
> of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some
reason)
> and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up my
> laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then
> firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just wondering
if
> anyone knew any way it could be streamlined.
> 
> 
> TIA,
> 
> 
> 
> JRR
> 
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
such
> a question."
> 
> IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents
> are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters
> like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They
> will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with
> other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large
bowie
> knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch
and
> wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
> boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone
> cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in
any
> way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit
> more temperamental.
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
> 
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> 

Re: Capturing video from YouTube?

[William Robbins]

This should be good...where's my popcorn?

 - WJR


On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:24, Eric Wittersheim
wrote:

> Hey Gary,
>
> Why don't you unsub, no need to be a jag on this list.  It is very common
> for people to pitch in their opinion using the +1 here.
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Shauna Hensala  wrote:
>
>>  +1!!
>>
>> [image: Red rose]Shauna Hensala
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From: crawfo...@evangel.edu
>>
>> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
>> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:11:25 +
>>
>>
>>  Well, to be fair, it does add some endorsement to the original answer so
>> it’s at least slightly more valuable than a reference to primate genitalia.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 13, 2011 10:23 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Capturing video from YouTube?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cock-gobblin' monkey nuts.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think I'll randomly post that whenever I feel like it now, as it adds
>> exactly as much frigging value as an unqualified waste of space '+1'.
>> There's not even a goddamn post-count, which is the BS origination of it.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Gary K. Slinger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Shauna Hensala  wrote:
>>
>>
>> +1
>> [image: Red rose]Shauna Hensala
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: sca...@gmail.com
>> > To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
>> > Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
>> > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:15:13 -0500
>> >
>> > VLC Player will. Which is the only Media Player I ever use.
>> >
>> > Even deployed it at work because of all the weird formats of audio/video
>> we
>> > get handed to us from various projects.
>> >
>> > Sam
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
>> >
>> > Well, for one, youtube stores the files in .FLV format, and not too many
>> > players I've found understand that format. :D
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:38 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> > --
>> > ME2
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Joseph L. Casale
>> >  wrote:
>> > Uh, that would degrade the quality significantly?
>> > Why not dump the actual movie file sent to you from youtube?
>> >
>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:19 AM
>> >
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
>> >
>> > There are multiple YouTube downloaders out there, but you have to be
>> > careful.  Some contain scumware.
>> >
>> > The safest way is to use something like SnagIT to capture/record the
>> video
>> > while it’s playing.
>> >
>> > From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:10 PM
>> >
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: OT: Capturing video from YouTube?
>> >
>> > Is there any way to "snag" a video from YouTube or other online site? I
>> know
>> > there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just that
>> one
>> > of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some
>> reason)
>> > and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up
>> my
>> > laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then
>> > firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just
>> wondering if
>> > anyone knew any way it could be streamlined.
>> >
>> >
>> > TIA,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > JRR
>> >
>> > --
>> > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
>> into
>> > the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
>> able
>> > rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
>> such
>> > a question."
>> >
>> > IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its
>> contents
>> > are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black
>> helicopters
>> > like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head.
>> They
>> > will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death
>> with
>> > other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large
>> bowie
>> > knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch
>> and
>> > wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
>> > boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my
>> two-stone
>> > cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in
>> any
>> > way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a
>> bit
>> > more temperamental.
>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>> > 

[slightly OT] Has anyone used Meridio (document management system)

[Matthew B Ames]

If so, would you mind dropping me an email off list, especially if you have any 
experience with the SQL databases it uses behind the scenes - I need to extract 
some data from the system, and some of the data seems to rather well hidden.

Thanks,
Matt

--
Matthew Ames
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Re: Capturing video from YouTube?

[Eric Wittersheim]

Hey Gary,

Why don't you unsub, no need to be a jag on this list.  It is very common
for people to pitch in their opinion using the +1 here.

Eric

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Shauna Hensala  wrote:

>  +1!!
>
> [image: Red rose]Shauna Hensala
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> From: crawfo...@evangel.edu
>
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:11:25 +
>
>
>  Well, to be fair, it does add some endorsement to the original answer so
> it’s at least slightly more valuable than a reference to primate genitalia.
>
>
>
> *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 13, 2011 10:23 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Capturing video from YouTube?
>
>
>
> Cock-gobblin' monkey nuts.
>
>
>
> I think I'll randomly post that whenever I feel like it now, as it adds
> exactly as much frigging value as an unqualified waste of space '+1'.
> There's not even a goddamn post-count, which is the BS origination of it.
>
> --
>
> Gary K. Slinger
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Shauna Hensala  wrote:
>
>
> +1
> [image: Red rose]Shauna Hensala
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: sca...@gmail.com
> > To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> > Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:15:13 -0500
> >
> > VLC Player will. Which is the only Media Player I ever use.
> >
> > Even deployed it at work because of all the weird formats of audio/video
> we
> > get handed to us from various projects.
> >
> > Sam
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
> >
> > Well, for one, youtube stores the files in .FLV format, and not too many
> > players I've found understand that format. :D
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:38 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?
> >
> > +1
> >
> > --
> > ME2
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Joseph L. Casale
> >  wrote:
> > Uh, that would degrade the quality significantly?
> > Why not dump the actual movie file sent to you from youtube?
> >
> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:19 AM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
> >
> > There are multiple YouTube downloaders out there, but you have to be
> > careful.  Some contain scumware.
> >
> > The safest way is to use something like SnagIT to capture/record the
> video
> > while it’s playing.
> >
> > From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:10 PM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: OT: Capturing video from YouTube?
> >
> > Is there any way to "snag" a video from YouTube or other online site? I
> know
> > there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just that
> one
> > of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some
> reason)
> > and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up my
> > laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then
> > firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just wondering
> if
> > anyone knew any way it could be streamlined.
> >
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> >
> >
> > JRR
> >
> > --
> > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> > the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
> able
> > rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
> such
> > a question."
> >
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> with
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> > knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch
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> two-stone
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> any
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Re: Capturing video from YouTube?

[Gary Slinger]

Perhaps.  My (obnoxious, I grant you) point is that "I agree, and here's why, 
with examples" is useful. 

"+1" comes from lists/boards that maintained a post count. It made a /tiny/ bit 
of sense there - 'please increase my post count by one!!!'.  Here, it's just 
noise. 

And if noise is ok, I figured my comment was just as valuable. 

-Original Message-
From: "Crawford, Scott" 
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:11:25 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Capturing video from 
YouTube?

Well, to be fair, it does add some endorsement to the original answer so it’s 
at least slightly more valuable than a reference to primate genitalia.

From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?

Cock-gobblin' monkey nuts.

I think I'll randomly post that whenever I feel like it now, as it adds exactly 
as much frigging value as an unqualified waste of space '+1'.   There's not 
even a goddamn post-count, which is the BS origination of it.

--
Gary K. Slinger


On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Shauna Hensala 
mailto:she...@msn.com>> wrote:

+1
[Red rose]Shauna Hensala






> From: sca...@gmail.com
> To: 
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:15:13 -0500
>
> VLC Player will. Which is the only Media Player I ever use.
>
> Even deployed it at work because of all the weird formats of audio/video we
> get handed to us from various projects.
>
> Sam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich 
> [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
>
> Well, for one, youtube stores the files in .FLV format, and not too many
> players I've found understand that format. :D
>
>
>
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
> [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:38 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?
>
> +1
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Joseph L. Casale
> mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com>> wrote:
> Uh, that would degrade the quality significantly?
> Why not dump the actual movie file sent to you from youtube?
>
> From: Rod Trent 
> [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:19 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
>
> There are multiple YouTube downloaders out there, but you have to be
> careful.  Some contain scumware.
>
> The safest way is to use something like SnagIT to capture/record the video
> while it’s playing.
>
> From: James Rankin 
> [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:10 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Capturing video from YouTube?
>
> Is there any way to "snag" a video from YouTube or other online site? I know
> there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just that one
> of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some reason)
> and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up my
> laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then
> firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just wondering if
> anyone knew any way it could be streamlined.
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
> JRR
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
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> other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie
> knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and
> wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
> boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone
> cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any
> way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit
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RE: Capturing video from YouTube?

[Shauna Hensala]

+1!!

Shauna Hensala






From: crawfo...@evangel.edu
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:11:25 +











Well, to be fair, it does add some endorsement to the original answer so it’s 
at least slightly more valuable than a reference to primate genitalia.
 


From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]


Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:23 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?


 

Cock-gobblin' monkey nuts. 


 


I think I'll randomly post that whenever I feel like it now, as it adds exactly 
as much frigging value as an unqualified waste of space '+1'.   There's not 
even a goddamn post-count, which is the BS origination of it.  



-- 

Gary K. Slinger


 





On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Shauna Hensala  wrote:





+1

Shauna Hensala













> From: sca...@gmail.com

> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?

> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:15:13 -0500

> 

> VLC Player will. Which is the only Media Player I ever use.

> 

> Even deployed it at work because of all the weird formats of audio/video we

> get handed to us from various projects.

> 

> Sam

> 

> -Original Message-

> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]


> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM

> To: NT System Admin Issues

> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?

> 

> Well, for one, youtube stores the files in .FLV format, and not too many

> players I've found understand that format. :D

> 

> 

> 

> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]

> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:38 PM

> To: NT System Admin Issues

> Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?

> 

> +1

> 

> --

> ME2

> 

> 

> 

> 

> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Joseph L. Casale

>  wrote:

> Uh, that would degrade the quality significantly?

> Why not dump the actual movie file sent to you from youtube?

>  

> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:19 AM

> 

> To: NT System Admin Issues

> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?

>  

> There are multiple YouTube downloaders out there, but you have to be

> careful.  Some contain scumware.

>  

> The safest way is to use something like SnagIT to capture/record the video

> while it’s playing.

>  

> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]

> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:10 PM

> 

> To: NT System Admin Issues

> Subject: OT: Capturing video from YouTube?

>  

> Is there any way to "snag" a video from YouTube or other online site? I know

> there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just that one

> of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some reason)

> and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up my

> laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then

> firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just wondering if

> anyone knew any way it could be streamlined.

> 

> 

> TIA,

> 

> 

> 

> JRR

> 

> --

> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into

> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able

> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such

> a question."

> 

> IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents

> are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters

> like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They

> will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with

> other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie

> knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and

> wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes

> boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone

> cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any

> way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit

> more temperamental.

> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

>   ~

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RE: Capturing video from YouTube?

[Crawford, Scott]

Well, to be fair, it does add some endorsement to the original answer so it’s 
at least slightly more valuable than a reference to primate genitalia.

From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?

Cock-gobblin' monkey nuts.

I think I'll randomly post that whenever I feel like it now, as it adds exactly 
as much frigging value as an unqualified waste of space '+1'.   There's not 
even a goddamn post-count, which is the BS origination of it.

--
Gary K. Slinger


On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Shauna Hensala 
mailto:she...@msn.com>> wrote:

+1
[Red rose]Shauna Hensala






> From: sca...@gmail.com
> To: 
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:15:13 -0500
>
> VLC Player will. Which is the only Media Player I ever use.
>
> Even deployed it at work because of all the weird formats of audio/video we
> get handed to us from various projects.
>
> Sam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich 
> [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
>
> Well, for one, youtube stores the files in .FLV format, and not too many
> players I've found understand that format. :D
>
>
>
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
> [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:38 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?
>
> +1
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Joseph L. Casale
> mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com>> wrote:
> Uh, that would degrade the quality significantly?
> Why not dump the actual movie file sent to you from youtube?
>
> From: Rod Trent 
> [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:19 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
>
> There are multiple YouTube downloaders out there, but you have to be
> careful.  Some contain scumware.
>
> The safest way is to use something like SnagIT to capture/record the video
> while it’s playing.
>
> From: James Rankin 
> [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:10 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Capturing video from YouTube?
>
> Is there any way to "snag" a video from YouTube or other online site? I know
> there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just that one
> of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some reason)
> and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up my
> laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then
> firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just wondering if
> anyone knew any way it could be streamlined.
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
> JRR
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
> IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents
> are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters
> like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They
> will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with
> other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie
> knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and
> wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
> boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone
> cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any
> way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit
> more temperamental.
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
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RE: User accounts for shared folders

[Ken Schaefer]

LocalSystem has full control over the local machine, and can authenticate as 
machinename$ to remote machines (which is what would be required for services 
that are running as LocalSystem but need to access remote machines, without 
some proxy process). Additionally for LocalSystem to access shares on the same 
machine, it would still have full control (unless you change the perms). 
Anyhoo, the previous is merely technical limitations - i.e. what is possible. 
Am still curious to know why it shouldn't have that access.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2011 10:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders

I expected that System would have access to shares because they are normally 
for network access, and according to everything I've read, System doesn't have 
that. AFAIK, System is only for access to resources local to the machine.

Someone else noted that System is used in DFS (FRS), which is surprising to me, 
but I don't think he'd be joshing me, so I believe him, because I have never 
had cause to use DFS.

Now, if System can access shares that are local to the machine, that's perhaps 
not quite as surprising, but does seem a fairly odd way of doing things.

Kurt

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 04:45, Ken Schaefer  wrote:
> Why shouldn't "system" talk to shares?
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2011 3:55 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders
>
> Why would you do that, when System isn't supposed to be able to talk to 
> shares? Has something changed drastically in later versions of of Windows, 
> that is, after Win2k3?
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:45, Crawford, Scott  wrote:
>> System on share permissions may be rare, but its certainly not out of the 
>> question. I've got share permissions that specify System.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:57, Tammy Stewart  
>> wrote:
>>> Ran into something interesting today t-shooting a virus issue on a network.
>>>
>>> On every share there is no system account listed. Only Domain admins 
>>> & domain users.
>>>
>>> My google kung-fu seems to be lacking today but is there 
>>> anything/reason why the system account would not show up?
>>>
>>> System account does exist on the machine – non shared directories have it.
>>> Just the shares that seem affected.
>>>
>>> Windows 2003 domain (if that makes any difference)
>>>
>>> Not just the system with infected files on the shares – all the 
>>> servers are like this including clean ones (that have not been 
>>> touched by the virus yet)
>>>
>>> Anyone have any kb articles or something I can look at that would 
>>> explain this? (and hopefully put them back to normal)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Tammy


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Re: User accounts for shared folders

[Andrew S. Baker]

It may be common, and can even be said to ease administration somewhat, but
I prefer to apply appropriate security at *both* levels.

Makes containment of mistakes much easier.


*ASB *(Professional Bio )
Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...




On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> BTW - it's common to have shares with permissions of Everyone (or
> Domain Users, or Authenticated Users) with Full Control, then
> separately administer the NTFS permissions underneath the share, as
> that makes administration much easier.
>
> It can become very confusing, for instance, if the Share permissions
> are Everyone (or some other group) with Read-Only, that controls
> access to the file system underneath, and nobody (including Domain
> Admins, etc.) can write/modify the files or directories, when
> accessing them through the network share - even though the NTFS
> permissions would otherwise are set to Modify or Full Control.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:03, Tammy Stewart
>  wrote:
> > Thanks Kurt,
> >
> > Makes sense. They likely logged onto the infected workstation as domain
> > admin. I can't recall now but will find out. Not sure if they let users
> have
> > full control on the shares.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tammy
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:05 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders
> >
> > I see.
> >
> > What you're saying implies that the infected workstation talked with
> > the machine hosting the shares. That's standard - and if the malware
> > is running in the context of a user that has the Full Control
> > permissions for the shares, it can strip out or add permissions at
> > will, without being resident on the machine hosting the shares.
> >
> > I have found that all too often folks are given Full Control
> > permissions, instead of Modify, which is all most people should have -
> > the only difference between them is that Full Control grants the
> > ability to modify permissions.
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 13:05, Tammy Stewart
> >  wrote:
> >> Hi Kurt,
> >>
> >> It is the NTFS permissions on the shares. (right click folder>
> properties>
> >> security) (not who on the network have access)
> >> Oddly enough other folders that are not shared have all the usual
> accounts
> >> listed.
> >>
> >> It is a file infecting virus (chir.b) from a few machines hitting the
> > shares
> >> -- however the server that had the shares hit did not have the OS hit.
> > Just
> >> shares so it did not get to memory or make registry modifications.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tammy
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:42 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:57, Tammy Stewart
> >>  wrote:
> >>> Ran into something interesting today t-shooting a virus issue on a
> >> network.
> >>>
> >>> On every share there is no system account listed. Only Domain admins &
> >>> domain users.
> >>>
> >>> My google kung-fu seems to be lacking today but is there
> anything/reason
> >> why
> >>> the system account would not show up?
> >>>
> >>> System account does exist on the machine - non shared directories have
> > it.
> >>> Just the shares that seem affected.
> >>>
> >>> Windows 2003 domain (if that makes any difference)
> >>>
> >>> Not just the system with infected files on the shares - all the servers
> >> are
> >>> like this including clean ones (that have not been touched by the virus
> >> yet)
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have any kb articles or something I can look at that would
> explain
> >>> this? (and hopefully put them back to normal)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> Tammy
> >>
> >> When you say that the share doesn't list the System account - do you
> >> mean the Share permissions, or the NTFS permissions?
> >>
> >> Shares never list System for permissions, AFAIK.
> >>
> >> If the NTFS permissions for System have been deleted on the
> >> directories that are shared, that's either a conscious action by
> >> someone with Full Control permissions listed in an ACE on the
> >> directory, or else it's something that the malware did. If a person at
> >> the firm did that, I'd say it's a big mistake - well, unless they are
> >> doing something unusual, like setting up an FTP server.
> >>
> >> Kurt
> >>
>

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RE: Dell Powerdge Disk Failure

[Shauna Hensala]

http://www.freeraidrecovery.com/

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Subject: Dell Powerdge Disk Failure
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:45:33 +0100
From: mark.robin...@cips.org
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com



Hi all, I’m looking for some advice with a Dell PowerEdge server at one of my 
clients.  I am a HP man predominantly so my knowledge of Dell disk 
configurations is minimal. Issue:The Dell server in question is reporting a 
fault on the LED display 

“The following virtual disks are missing: (0)If you proceed (or load the 
configuration utility), these virtual disks will be removed from your 
configuration. If you wish to use them at a later time, they will have to be 
imported. If you believe these virtual disks should be present, please power 
off your system and check your cables to ensure all disks are present. Press 
any key to continue, or 'C' to load the configuration utility.”The disks have 
been re-seated and cables have been checked yet the error still persists.   The 
server has only four hard disks split into two virtual disks.  Unfortunately I 
cannot simply hot-swap the hard disk with the fault as there is only a single 
system disk – there is no mirroring.  However the second virtual disk and 
subsequent ‘Data’ partition uses a RAID5 configuration split over the three 
remaining HDDs.  I am not so fussed about the system disk as I have spares and 
I can rebuild the system partition but this time with a mirrored configuration 
over two disks.  What I am worried about is the data on the disks split over 
the RAID5 partition.  It is imperative that I retrieve the data on this 
partition.  I am looking for advice on how best to go about this please. If I 
remove the faulty disk, insert two blank spares, create a virtual disk, mirror 
them and then build the OS, will the second, existing virtual disk in the RAID5 
partition be available to the OS?  Should I try and retrieve the data from the 
disks in the RAID5 partition before attempting to so anything (if so, what 
would be the best method for this?)?  I would greatly appreciate any help on 
this. Many thanks, Mark
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Virtual Routing and Hyper-V

[Mark Smith]

Hi All,

I have a small server running Server 2008 R2 with the Hyper-V and RRAS (NAT
& Routing options) roles installed.
My server has 2 physical NICS.
I'm trying to create multiple subnets and have the VM's on all the
subnets communicate.
So I've created 5 virtual networks (subnets) within Hyper-V. I have been
able to add 2 of the virtual networks to the Routing config in RRAS, but
when I try to add a 3rd it's not listed. When I right click 'Network
Interfaces' under RRAS in Server Manager and select 'New Interface' I
receive an error that there are no new network interfaces available.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Re: User accounts for shared folders

[Kurt Buff]

I expected that System would have access to shares because they are
normally for network access, and according to everything I've read,
System doesn't have that. AFAIK, System is only for access to
resources local to the machine.

Someone else noted that System is used in DFS (FRS), which is
surprising to me, but I don't think he'd be joshing me, so I believe
him, because I have never had cause to use DFS.

Now, if System can access shares that are local to the machine, that's
perhaps not quite as surprising, but does seem a fairly odd way of
doing things.

Kurt

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 04:45, Ken Schaefer  wrote:
> Why shouldn't "system" talk to shares?
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2011 3:55 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders
>
> Why would you do that, when System isn't supposed to be able to talk to 
> shares? Has something changed drastically in later versions of of Windows, 
> that is, after Win2k3?
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:45, Crawford, Scott  wrote:
>> System on share permissions may be rare, but its certainly not out of the 
>> question. I've got share permissions that specify System.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:57, Tammy Stewart  
>> wrote:
>>> Ran into something interesting today t-shooting a virus issue on a network.
>>>
>>> On every share there is no system account listed. Only Domain admins
>>> & domain users.
>>>
>>> My google kung-fu seems to be lacking today but is there
>>> anything/reason why the system account would not show up?
>>>
>>> System account does exist on the machine – non shared directories have it.
>>> Just the shares that seem affected.
>>>
>>> Windows 2003 domain (if that makes any difference)
>>>
>>> Not just the system with infected files on the shares – all the
>>> servers are like this including clean ones (that have not been
>>> touched by the virus yet)
>>>
>>> Anyone have any kb articles or something I can look at that would
>>> explain this? (and hopefully put them back to normal)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Tammy
>>
>> When you say that the share doesn't list the System account - do you mean 
>> the Share permissions, or the NTFS permissions?
>>
>> Shares never list System for permissions, AFAIK.
>>
>> If the NTFS permissions for System have been deleted on the directories that 
>> are shared, that's either a conscious action by someone with Full Control 
>> permissions listed in an ACE on the directory, or else it's something that 
>> the malware did. If a person at the firm did that, I'd say it's a big 
>> mistake - well, unless they are doing something unusual, like setting up an 
>> FTP server.
>
>
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RE: Windows 7 - Multiple NIC binding order

[Bob Fronk]

True, but it wasn't doing that.  It was using the lower bandwidth connection.

For some reason the Interface metric was greyed out for the lower bandwidth 
NIC.  I uninstalled it and re-installed it and can now set a higher metric on 
the USB NIC.  This has resolved the issue.



From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Multiple NIC binding order

Quick Google uncovers that if you have a gateway setup on multiple NICs, by 
default in Win7 it will use the NIC with the higher bandwidth.

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Multiple NIC binding order

More testing shows that Windows seems to use Ping times to decide which network 
is "faster".  The slower network has better ping times by a couple of 
milliseconds, however, it is less than half the bandwidth, and not the network 
that has first priority in the network bindings



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 - Multiple NIC binding order

Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit with two 1GB NICs.  (NIC 1 is internal.  NIC 2 is 
USB dongle) Each NIC is connected to a different subnet, LAN 1 = Domain LAN.  
LAN 2 = Local Test network.   LAN1 is the domain LAN and has a 45mbps Internet 
connection.  LAN2 is a test network and is connected has a 20mbps Internet 
connection.  LAN1 is 192.168.x.x.  LAN2 is 10.10.x.x.   Both are DHCP.  Both 
are 1Gbit networks.

I have set the binding order for network services to use NIC1(LAN 1) first.  
The wireless (not connected) second.  NIC2 (LAN 2) third.  Windows has 
designated LAN 1 as "Domain Network" and LAN 2 as "Work network".  However, at 
each log on, the OS is using NIC2 for external traffic (Such as WEB, Outlook 
connection, etc.).  I can still connect to the domain LAN, however it is not 
primary.  I have to unplug the network cable for the OS to switch to LAN1.  If 
I plug the cable back in, the OS will switch back to NIC2 at various intervals.

I use the test network for some VMs I run on my PC for testing purposes.  I 
need external access for these VMs, but I do not want them on the domain 
network.

This was working fine for me until my old 100mbps USB NIC experienced a "drop 
and break it" incident.  The new USB NIC is 1Gbit, so I am guessing that 
Windows sees this as a "better or faster" network and somehow makes it priority 
over the Domain network.

Beyond setting the binding order (which I have done), does anyone know another 
way to force Windows to use "think" LAN1 is the best priority network?

BF

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RE: Windows 7 - Multiple NIC binding order

[Guyer, Don]

Quick Google uncovers that if you have a gateway setup on multiple NICs,
by default in Win7 it will use the NIC with the higher bandwidth.

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 - Multiple NIC binding order

 

More testing shows that Windows seems to use Ping times to decide which
network is "faster".  The slower network has better ping times by a
couple of milliseconds, however, it is less than half the bandwidth, and
not the network that has first priority in the network bindings

 

 

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 - Multiple NIC binding order

 

Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit with two 1GB NICs.  (NIC 1 is internal.  NIC
2 is USB dongle) Each NIC is connected to a different subnet, LAN 1 =
Domain LAN.  LAN 2 = Local Test network.   LAN1 is the domain LAN and
has a 45mbps Internet connection.  LAN2 is a test network and is
connected has a 20mbps Internet connection.  LAN1 is 192.168.x.x.  LAN2
is 10.10.x.x.   Both are DHCP.  Both are 1Gbit networks.

 

I have set the binding order for network services to use NIC1(LAN 1)
first.  The wireless (not connected) second.  NIC2 (LAN 2) third.
Windows has designated LAN 1 as "Domain Network" and LAN 2 as "Work
network".  However, at each log on, the OS is using NIC2 for external
traffic (Such as WEB, Outlook connection, etc.).  I can still connect to
the domain LAN, however it is not primary.  I have to unplug the network
cable for the OS to switch to LAN1.  If I plug the cable back in, the OS
will switch back to NIC2 at various intervals.  

 

I use the test network for some VMs I run on my PC for testing purposes.
I need external access for these VMs, but I do not want them on the
domain network.  

 

This was working fine for me until my old 100mbps USB NIC experienced a
"drop and break it" incident.  The new USB NIC is 1Gbit, so I am
guessing that Windows sees this as a "better or faster" network and
somehow makes it priority over the Domain network.

 

Beyond setting the binding order (which I have done), does anyone know
another way to force Windows to use "think" LAN1 is the best priority
network?

 

BF

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RE: Windows 7 - Multiple NIC binding order

[Bob Fronk]

More testing shows that Windows seems to use Ping times to decide which network 
is "faster".  The slower network has better ping times by a couple of 
milliseconds, however, it is less than half the bandwidth, and not the network 
that has first priority in the network bindings



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 - Multiple NIC binding order

Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit with two 1GB NICs.  (NIC 1 is internal.  NIC 2 is 
USB dongle) Each NIC is connected to a different subnet, LAN 1 = Domain LAN.  
LAN 2 = Local Test network.   LAN1 is the domain LAN and has a 45mbps Internet 
connection.  LAN2 is a test network and is connected has a 20mbps Internet 
connection.  LAN1 is 192.168.x.x.  LAN2 is 10.10.x.x.   Both are DHCP.  Both 
are 1Gbit networks.

I have set the binding order for network services to use NIC1(LAN 1) first.  
The wireless (not connected) second.  NIC2 (LAN 2) third.  Windows has 
designated LAN 1 as "Domain Network" and LAN 2 as "Work network".  However, at 
each log on, the OS is using NIC2 for external traffic (Such as WEB, Outlook 
connection, etc.).  I can still connect to the domain LAN, however it is not 
primary.  I have to unplug the network cable for the OS to switch to LAN1.  If 
I plug the cable back in, the OS will switch back to NIC2 at various intervals.

I use the test network for some VMs I run on my PC for testing purposes.  I 
need external access for these VMs, but I do not want them on the domain 
network.

This was working fine for me until my old 100mbps USB NIC experienced a "drop 
and break it" incident.  The new USB NIC is 1Gbit, so I am guessing that 
Windows sees this as a "better or faster" network and somehow makes it priority 
over the Domain network.

Beyond setting the binding order (which I have done), does anyone know another 
way to force Windows to use "think" LAN1 is the best priority network?

BF

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RE: Is this even possible

[Nigel Parker]

Excellent I have a few options to look at 
Wonder if I will get an exchange upgrade from it :-)

Regards
Nigel Parker

Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   
Email: 

 

-Original Message-
From: Osborne, Richard [mailto:richard.osbo...@wth.org] 
Sent: 14 June 2011 14:25
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

You could try McGrath AutoPrint:
http://www.mcgrathtechnology.com/add-ins.

It's an Outlook add-in so you'd need a PC you could leave Outlook
running on.

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Not with exchange 2003.

You are looking at webdav or mapi (or an enabling technology like
Redemption or CDO).

Still certainly doable.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Powershell script using EWS to access the mb with attachment extraction?

If that sounds acceptable, between help here and the web, I am sure we
can hack up something.

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Hi
Yep 2003 exchange 

Problem is I cant code,
Wonder if there is a tool that could poll the mailbox and print out?

Thanks for the comments  

-Original Message-
From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com]
Sent: 14 June 2011 11:04
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Add another mailbox to the distribution list, and then write a simple
app to monitor the new account, extract the attachment(s) print & the
delete the message.  However there may be neater solutions out there.
This is the first idea which jumps out of my head (as I have no specific
knowledge of Exchange, which I guess you are running - 2003).

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: 14 June 2011 10:56
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is this even possible

Had a request
When an email hits a certain Email distribution list they would like the
attachment to be printed on a printer down on the shop floor As far as I
know the name of the attachment will be the same 

Is it possible to do this in an automated way?

Nigel Parker

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Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
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RE: Is this even possible

[Osborne, Richard]

You could try McGrath AutoPrint:
http://www.mcgrathtechnology.com/add-ins.

It's an Outlook add-in so you'd need a PC you could leave Outlook
running on.

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Not with exchange 2003.

You are looking at webdav or mapi (or an enabling technology like
Redemption or CDO).

Still certainly doable.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


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From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Powershell script using EWS to access the mb with attachment extraction?

If that sounds acceptable, between help here and the web, I am sure we
can hack up something.

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Hi 
Yep 2003 exchange 

Problem is I cant code,
Wonder if there is a tool that could poll the mailbox and print out?

Thanks for the comments  

-Original Message-
From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2011 11:04
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Add another mailbox to the distribution list, and then write a simple
app to monitor the new account, extract the attachment(s) print & the
delete the message.  However there may be neater solutions out there.
This is the first idea which jumps out of my head (as I have no specific
knowledge of Exchange, which I guess you are running - 2003).

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: 14 June 2011 10:56
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is this even possible

Had a request
When an email hits a certain Email distribution list they would like the
attachment to be printed on a printer down on the shop floor As far as I
know the name of the attachment will be the same 

Is it possible to do this in an automated way?

Nigel Parker

Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   
Email: 


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Windows 7 - Multiple NIC binding order

[Bob Fronk]

Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit with two 1GB NICs.  (NIC 1 is internal.  NIC 2 is 
USB dongle) Each NIC is connected to a different subnet, LAN 1 = Domain LAN.  
LAN 2 = Local Test network.   LAN1 is the domain LAN and has a 45mbps Internet 
connection.  LAN2 is a test network and is connected has a 20mbps Internet 
connection.  LAN1 is 192.168.x.x.  LAN2 is 10.10.x.x.   Both are DHCP.  Both 
are 1Gbit networks.

I have set the binding order for network services to use NIC1(LAN 1) first.  
The wireless (not connected) second.  NIC2 (LAN 2) third.  Windows has 
designated LAN 1 as "Domain Network" and LAN 2 as "Work network".  However, at 
each log on, the OS is using NIC2 for external traffic (Such as WEB, Outlook 
connection, etc.).  I can still connect to the domain LAN, however it is not 
primary.  I have to unplug the network cable for the OS to switch to LAN1.  If 
I plug the cable back in, the OS will switch back to NIC2 at various intervals.

I use the test network for some VMs I run on my PC for testing purposes.  I 
need external access for these VMs, but I do not want them on the domain 
network.

This was working fine for me until my old 100mbps USB NIC experienced a "drop 
and break it" incident.  The new USB NIC is 1Gbit, so I am guessing that 
Windows sees this as a "better or faster" network and somehow makes it priority 
over the Domain network.

Beyond setting the binding order (which I have done), does anyone know another 
way to force Windows to use "think" LAN1 is the best priority network?

BF

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RE: Capturing video from YouTube?

[Guyer, Don]

Same...

 

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Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

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From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?

 

Ditto!

--
ME2

 

 





On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Tim Evans  wrote:

Me too!

 

 

...Tim

 

From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 8:23 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?

 

Cock-gobblin' monkey nuts. 

 

I think I'll randomly post that whenever I feel like it now, as it adds
exactly as much frigging value as an unqualified waste of space '+1'.
There's not even a goddamn post-count, which is the BS origination of
it.  

-- 

Gary K. Slinger

 


On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Shauna Hensala  wrote:


+1
Error! Filename not specified.Shauna Hensala






> From: sca...@gmail.com
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:15:13 -0500
> 
> VLC Player will. Which is the only Media Player I ever use.
> 
> Even deployed it at work because of all the weird formats of
audio/video we
> get handed to us from various projects.
> 
> Sam
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
> 
> Well, for one, youtube stores the files in .FLV format, and
not too many
> players I've found understand that format. :D
> 
> 
> 
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:38 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?
> 
> +1
> 
> --
> ME2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Joseph L. Casale
>  wrote:
> Uh, that would degrade the quality significantly?
> Why not dump the actual movie file sent to you from youtube?
>  
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:19 AM
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
>  
> There are multiple YouTube downloaders out there, but you have
to be
> careful.  Some contain scumware.
>  
> The safest way is to use something like SnagIT to
capture/record the video
> while it's playing.
>  
> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:10 PM
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Capturing video from YouTube?
>  
> Is there any way to "snag" a video from YouTube or other
online site? I know
> there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's
just that one
> of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for
some reason)
> and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that
booting up my
> laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode,
and then
> firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was
just wondering if
> anyone knew any way it could be streamlined.
> 
> 
> TIA,
> 
> 
> 
> JRR
> 
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you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could
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> a question."
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Re: Retaining data for extremely long times

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
> ... of running out of drive space.

  Well, 10 GB/month, 50 years, 10 * 12 * 50 = 6000 GB (plus the 300 GB
you have now).

  You can buy 6 TB for, what, $300 these days?  ;-)  Seriously, that's
not a lot of storage, even at current SAN prices.  And it's only going
to get cheaper.  50 years from now that will prolly fit on a $2 flash
drive (or whatever the equivalent is then).

  My first thought is to keep it all online (with regular read
verifications, if your storage doesn't do that already) and be done
with it.

> There are to be further discussions, with questions asked about access:  how 
>often, how quickly do they need it, etc.

  How often they need access is really the important one.  A cave in
Nevada is cheap, but access time stinks.

> ... archive the rest to DVDs ...

  If you do go with offline archiving, I would store the data
redundantly, and at different times.  For example, burn a few copies
now.  Then in 5 years, burn another set of copies, and check the first
set.  Only then remove the originals from online storage.  Then check
all copies every year or so.

  Multiple copies at once means a single element failure doesn't kill
you.  Multiple generations means if the DVDs start to die after X
years, you'll have time to regenerate on to new media.

  The cost of the above compared to the cost of keeping it online
likely means taking it offline isn't worth it.

  You might be able to outsource this effectively.  You'd have to
really trust the contractor, though.  If it's privacy sensitive, I'd
suggest using your own encryption, and giving the ciphertext to the
contractor.  Just make sure you protect the keys well.

-- Ben

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RE: Is this even possible

[Joseph L. Casale]

Ahh, my bad. Thanks for pointing that out Michael:)

http://www.msexchange.org/articles/access-exchange-2000-2003-mailbox-webdav.html

Yuck:) Certainly not as trivial as with 2010!

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Not with exchange 2003.

You are looking at webdav or mapi (or an enabling technology like Redemption or 
CDO).

Still certainly doable.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Powershell script using EWS to access the mb with attachment extraction?

If that sounds acceptable, between help here and the web, I am sure we can hack 
up something.

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Hi 
Yep 2003 exchange 

Problem is I cant code,
Wonder if there is a tool that could poll the mailbox and print out?

Thanks for the comments  

-Original Message-
From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2011 11:04
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Add another mailbox to the distribution list, and then write a simple
app to monitor the new account, extract the attachment(s) print & the
delete the message.  However there may be neater solutions out there.
This is the first idea which jumps out of my head (as I have no specific
knowledge of Exchange, which I guess you are running - 2003).

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: 14 June 2011 10:56
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is this even possible

Had a request
When an email hits a certain Email distribution list they would like the
attachment to be printed on a printer down on the shop floor As far as I
know the name of the attachment will be the same 

Is it possible to do this in an automated way?

Nigel Parker

Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   
Email: 


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RE: Is this even possible

[Michael B. Smith]

Not with exchange 2003.

You are looking at webdav or mapi (or an enabling technology like Redemption or 
CDO).

Still certainly doable.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Powershell script using EWS to access the mb with attachment extraction?

If that sounds acceptable, between help here and the web, I am sure we can hack 
up something.

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Hi 
Yep 2003 exchange 

Problem is I cant code,
Wonder if there is a tool that could poll the mailbox and print out?

Thanks for the comments  

-Original Message-
From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2011 11:04
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Add another mailbox to the distribution list, and then write a simple
app to monitor the new account, extract the attachment(s) print & the
delete the message.  However there may be neater solutions out there.
This is the first idea which jumps out of my head (as I have no specific
knowledge of Exchange, which I guess you are running - 2003).

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: 14 June 2011 10:56
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is this even possible

Had a request
When an email hits a certain Email distribution list they would like the
attachment to be printed on a printer down on the shop floor As far as I
know the name of the attachment will be the same 

Is it possible to do this in an automated way?

Nigel Parker

Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   
Email: 


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RE: Dell Powerdge Disk Failure

[Mark Robinson]

I know, the existing config isn't exactly ideal and not how I would've done it, 
but I have managed to remove the virtual disk config attached to the failed 
single disk, inserted two disk from another, redundant, Dell server and I am 
building a mirror on those two disks.  Then I will load the OS and hopefully I 
should be able to present the raid5 partition to the OS.  I didn't realise that 
Dell support was free else I would've rung them straight away!

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2011 12:53
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell Powerdge Disk Failure

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:45 AM, Mark Robinson  wrote:
> I'm looking for some advice with a Dell PowerEdge server at one of my 
> clients.

  Call Dell tech support.  It's free forever.  No contract needed.

  Here's my guesswork:

> The server has only four hard disks split into two virtual disks.
>  Unfortunately I cannot simply hot-swap the hard disk with the fault 
> as there is only a single system disk - there is no mirroring.

  I'm trying to figure this out.  So...

Virtual Disk 1 = Physical Disk 1 (single disk) Virtual Disk 2 = Physical Disks 
2, 3, 4 (RAID 5)

  Why would you do that?  :)

> If I remove the faulty disk,
> insert two blank spares, create a virtual disk, mirror them and then 
> build the OS, will the second, existing virtual disk in the RAID5 
> partition be available to the OS?

  That would be my guess.  But:

> Should I try and retrieve the data from the disks in the RAID5 
> partition before attempting to so anything (if so, what would be the 
> best method for this?)?

  Since it sounds like you don't have a backup of some important data, I would 
start there before I started changing things.

  I would boot from CD and see if I could copy the data off to network or 
external media.  Linux supports all the Dell RAID controllers, last I knew, so 
I'd prolly start there.  If you're not a Linux guy, you could try UBCD4Win.

-- Ben

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Re: Dell Powerdge Disk Failure

[Ben Scott]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:45 AM, Mark Robinson  wrote:
> I’m looking for some advice with a Dell PowerEdge server at one of my
> clients.

  Call Dell tech support.  It's free forever.  No contract needed.

  Here's my guesswork:

> The server has only four hard disks split into two virtual disks.
>  Unfortunately I cannot simply hot-swap the hard disk with the fault as
> there is only a single system disk – there is no mirroring.

  I'm trying to figure this out.  So...

Virtual Disk 1 = Physical Disk 1 (single disk)
Virtual Disk 2 = Physical Disks 2, 3, 4 (RAID 5)

  Why would you do that?  :)

> If I remove the faulty disk,
> insert two blank spares, create a virtual disk, mirror them and then build
> the OS, will the second, existing virtual disk in the RAID5 partition be
> available to the OS?

  That would be my guess.  But:

> Should I try and retrieve the data from the disks in
> the RAID5 partition before attempting to so anything (if so, what would be
> the best method for this?)?

  Since it sounds like you don't have a backup of some important data,
I would start there before I started changing things.

  I would boot from CD and see if I could copy the data off to network
or external media.  Linux supports all the Dell RAID controllers, last
I knew, so I'd prolly start there.  If you're not a Linux guy, you
could try UBCD4Win.

-- Ben

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RE: Is this even possible

[Joseph L. Casale]

Powershell script using EWS to access the mb with attachment extraction?

If that sounds acceptable, between help here and the web, I am sure we can hack 
up something.

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Hi 
Yep 2003 exchange 

Problem is I cant code,
Wonder if there is a tool that could poll the mailbox and print out?

Thanks for the comments  

-Original Message-
From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2011 11:04
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Add another mailbox to the distribution list, and then write a simple
app to monitor the new account, extract the attachment(s) print & the
delete the message.  However there may be neater solutions out there.
This is the first idea which jumps out of my head (as I have no specific
knowledge of Exchange, which I guess you are running - 2003).

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: 14 June 2011 10:56
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is this even possible

Had a request
When an email hits a certain Email distribution list they would like the
attachment to be printed on a printer down on the shop floor As far as I
know the name of the attachment will be the same 

Is it possible to do this in an automated way?

Nigel Parker

Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
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Web:   
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RE: User accounts for shared folders

[Ken Schaefer]

Why shouldn't "system" talk to shares? 

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2011 3:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders

Why would you do that, when System isn't supposed to be able to talk to shares? 
Has something changed drastically in later versions of of Windows, that is, 
after Win2k3?

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:45, Crawford, Scott  wrote:
> System on share permissions may be rare, but its certainly not out of the 
> question. I've got share permissions that specify System.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: User accounts for shared folders
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:57, Tammy Stewart  
> wrote:
>> Ran into something interesting today t-shooting a virus issue on a network.
>>
>> On every share there is no system account listed. Only Domain admins 
>> & domain users.
>>
>> My google kung-fu seems to be lacking today but is there 
>> anything/reason why the system account would not show up?
>>
>> System account does exist on the machine – non shared directories have it.
>> Just the shares that seem affected.
>>
>> Windows 2003 domain (if that makes any difference)
>>
>> Not just the system with infected files on the shares – all the 
>> servers are like this including clean ones (that have not been 
>> touched by the virus yet)
>>
>> Anyone have any kb articles or something I can look at that would 
>> explain this? (and hopefully put them back to normal)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Tammy
>
> When you say that the share doesn't list the System account - do you mean the 
> Share permissions, or the NTFS permissions?
>
> Shares never list System for permissions, AFAIK.
>
> If the NTFS permissions for System have been deleted on the directories that 
> are shared, that's either a conscious action by someone with Full Control 
> permissions listed in an ACE on the directory, or else it's something that 
> the malware did. If a person at the firm did that, I'd say it's a big mistake 
> - well, unless they are doing something unusual, like setting up an FTP 
> server.


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Re: Dell Powerdge Disk Failure

[RichardMcClary]

Contact Dell Server Support.  They don't care how old the machine is; they 
simply want a Dell server back up and running.  A current service contract 
only becomes an issue if you need a new disk, or if you want to call 
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Hi all,
 
I?m looking for some advice with a Dell PowerEdge server at one of my 
clients.  I am a HP man predominantly so my knowledge of Dell disk 
configurations is minimal.
 
Issue:
The Dell server in question is reporting a fault on the LED display 

?The following virtual disks are missing: (0)
If you proceed (or load the configuration utility), these virtual disks 
will be removed from your configuration. If you wish to use them at a 
later time, they will have to be imported. If you believe these virtual 
disks should be present, please power off your system and check your 
cables to ensure all disks are present. Press any key to continue, or 'C' 
to load the configuration utility.?
The disks have been re-seated and cables have been checked yet the error 
still persists. 
 
The server has only four hard disks split into two virtual disks. 
Unfortunately I cannot simply hot-swap the hard disk with the fault as 
there is only a single system disk ? there is no mirroring.  However the 
second virtual disk and subsequent ?Data? partition uses a RAID5 
configuration split over the three remaining HDDs.  I am not so fussed 
about the system disk as I have spares and I can rebuild the system 
partition but this time with a mirrored configuration over two disks. What 
I am worried about is the data on the disks split over the RAID5 
partition.  It is imperative that I retrieve the data on this partition. I 
am looking for advice on how best to go about this please. If I remove the 
faulty disk, insert two blank spares, create a virtual disk, mirror them 
and then build the OS, will the second, existing virtual disk in the RAID5 
partition be available to the OS?  Should I try and retrieve the data from 
the disks in the RAID5 partition before attempting to so anything (if so, 
what would be the best method for this?)? 
 
I would greatly appreciate any help on this.
 
Many thanks,
 
Mark
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RE: Is this even possible

[Nigel Parker]

Hi 
Yep 2003 exchange 

Problem is I cant code,
Wonder if there is a tool that could poll the mailbox and print out?

Thanks for the comments  

-Original Message-
From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2011 11:04
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is this even possible

Add another mailbox to the distribution list, and then write a simple
app to monitor the new account, extract the attachment(s) print & the
delete the message.  However there may be neater solutions out there.
This is the first idea which jumps out of my head (as I have no specific
knowledge of Exchange, which I guess you are running - 2003).

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: 14 June 2011 10:56
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is this even possible

Had a request
When an email hits a certain Email distribution list they would like the
attachment to be printed on a printer down on the shop floor As far as I
know the name of the attachment will be the same 

Is it possible to do this in an automated way?

Nigel Parker

Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   
Email: 


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RE: Is this even possible

[Matthew B Ames]

Add another mailbox to the distribution list, and then write a simple app to 
monitor the new account, extract the attachment(s) print & the delete the 
message.  However there may be neater solutions out there.  This is the first 
idea which jumps out of my head (as I have no specific knowledge of Exchange, 
which I guess you are running - 2003).

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] 
Sent: 14 June 2011 10:56
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is this even possible

Had a request
When an email hits a certain Email distribution list they would like the 
attachment to be printed on a printer down on the shop floor As far as I know 
the name of the attachment will be the same 

Is it possible to do this in an automated way?

Nigel Parker

Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   
Email: 


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Re: Is this even possible

[James Rankin]

In Outlook rules, you can set up a rule to print the email when conditions
are met (in your case, it would be a Sent To Distribution List trigger).
Don't know whether this includes the attachment - give it a try!

On 14 June 2011 10:55, Nigel Parker  wrote:

> Had a request
> When an email hits a certain Email distribution list they would like the
> attachment to be printed on a printer down on the shop floor
> As far as I know the name of the attachment will be the same
>
> Is it possible to do this in an automated way?
>
> Nigel Parker
>
> Systems Engineer
> Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
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> Fax:   01200 452201
> Web:   
> Email: 
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Is this even possible

[Nigel Parker]

Had a request
When an email hits a certain Email distribution list they would like the
attachment to be printed on a printer down on the shop floor 
As far as I know the name of the attachment will be the same 

Is it possible to do this in an automated way?

Nigel Parker

Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   
Email: 


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Dell Powerdge Disk Failure

[Mark Robinson]

Hi all,

 

I'm looking for some advice with a Dell PowerEdge server at one of my
clients.  I am a HP man predominantly so my knowledge of Dell disk
configurations is minimal.

 

Issue:

The Dell server in question is reporting a fault on the LED display 

"The following virtual disks are missing: (0)

If you proceed (or load the configuration utility), these virtual disks
will be removed from your configuration. If you wish to use them at a
later time, they will have to be imported. If you believe these virtual
disks should be present, please power off your system and check your
cables to ensure all disks are present. Press any key to continue, or
'C' to load the configuration utility."

The disks have been re-seated and cables have been checked yet the error
still persists.  

 

The server has only four hard disks split into two virtual disks.
Unfortunately I cannot simply hot-swap the hard disk with the fault as
there is only a single system disk - there is no mirroring.  However the
second virtual disk and subsequent 'Data' partition uses a RAID5
configuration split over the three remaining HDDs.  I am not so fussed
about the system disk as I have spares and I can rebuild the system
partition but this time with a mirrored configuration over two disks.
What I am worried about is the data on the disks split over the RAID5
partition.  It is imperative that I retrieve the data on this partition.
I am looking for advice on how best to go about this please. If I remove
the faulty disk, insert two blank spares, create a virtual disk, mirror
them and then build the OS, will the second, existing virtual disk in
the RAID5 partition be available to the OS?  Should I try and retrieve
the data from the disks in the RAID5 partition before attempting to so
anything (if so, what would be the best method for this?)? 

 

I would greatly appreciate any help on this.

 

Many thanks,

 

Mark


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Re: Capturing video from YouTube?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Ditto!

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On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Tim Evans  wrote:

> Me too!
>
>
>
>
>
> …Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 13, 2011 8:23 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Capturing video from YouTube?
>
>
>
> Cock-gobblin' monkey nuts.
>
>
>
> I think I'll randomly post that whenever I feel like it now, as it adds
> exactly as much frigging value as an unqualified waste of space '+1'.
> There's not even a goddamn post-count, which is the BS origination of it.
>
> --
>
> Gary K. Slinger
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Shauna Hensala  wrote:
>
>
> +1
> [image: Red rose]Shauna Hensala
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: sca...@gmail.com
> > To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> > Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:15:13 -0500
> >
> > VLC Player will. Which is the only Media Player I ever use.
> >
> > Even deployed it at work because of all the weird formats of audio/video
> we
> > get handed to us from various projects.
> >
> > Sam
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
> >
> > Well, for one, youtube stores the files in .FLV format, and not too many
> > players I've found understand that format. :D
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:38 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube?
> >
> > +1
> >
> > --
> > ME2
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Joseph L. Casale
> >  wrote:
> > Uh, that would degrade the quality significantly?
> > Why not dump the actual movie file sent to you from youtube?
> >
> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:19 AM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube?
> >
> > There are multiple YouTube downloaders out there, but you have to be
> > careful.  Some contain scumware.
> >
> > The safest way is to use something like SnagIT to capture/record the
> video
> > while it’s playing.
> >
> > From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:10 PM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: OT: Capturing video from YouTube?
> >
> > Is there any way to "snag" a video from YouTube or other online site? I
> know
> > there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just that
> one
> > of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some
> reason)
> > and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up my
> > laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then
> > firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just wondering
> if
> > anyone knew any way it could be streamlined.
> >
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> >
> >
> > JRR
> >
> > --
> > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> > the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
> able
> > rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
> such
> > a question."
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> > like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head.
> They
> > will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death
> with
> > other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large
> bowie
> > knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch
> and
> > wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
> > boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my
> two-stone
> > cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in
> any
> > way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit
> > more temperamental.
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