date:20111214

Anyone had any experience of MS' version of desktop virtualization? I just
overheard someone trying to push it in a pre-sales consultancy and I hadn't
heard of it, so I was wondering if it had any serious firepower behind it?
From the marketing blurb it looks like it simply provides a virtualised XP
desktop for legacy apps along the lines of VMWare Workstation/Player, so if
that's true it doesn't seem like a big threat to the likes of XenDesktop.

Cheers,



JRR

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RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

2011-12-14 Thread Stu Sjouwerman

Dhiraj, I would have a look at SPLUNK.  Sounds like that is where you might 
wind up.

Warm regards,
Stu

From: Haritwal, Dhiraj [mailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

How is GFI EventsManager. Does anybody using it for central monitoring (single 
monitoring solution). Atleast solution should have Network/Servers (All 
platforms) monitoring.

Dhiraj

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

You may not have a single solution - instead forward to a console of consoles 
- BMC Event Monitor or Tivoli.

From: Haritwal, Dhiraj [mailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2011 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

ASB,

Thanks for your response, Budget is not a constraint. Currently we are 
monitoring these components individually.

Dhiraj

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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

Google's options are viable:

https://www.google.com/search?gcx=cix=e2sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=Central+Log+Management%2FMonitoring+Solution

What's your budget?  What team in your org will be doing the monitoring?

Those two basic questions are going to have a great deal to say about what you 
ultimately choose...
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On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Haritwal, Dhiraj 
dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.commailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com wrote:
Stu, I have searched archives but not getting the one which I am looking for. 
Everywhere it's either for Windows server events or for Network monitoring.

I am looking for a solution to monitor below  want to know which solution 
people are using as a central monitoring tool.

Windows servers events
Unix (AIX) servers events
Firewall Events
Proxy (Appliance) Events
SAN Switches
CISCO Switches
CISCO Routers
Services like (SQL/Oracle/Exchange/IIS etc)

Dhiraj

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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

Start here for the archives search:

http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/utilities/login/login/?

Warm regards,

Stu

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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:01 AM
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Subject: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

Hi,

I am looking for a solution to monitor/manage all IT Infra logs/events ie. 
Windows Servers / AIX Servers / SAN Switches / SAN / firewalls / Network 
Switches / Routers / all databases etc. Kindly suggest some options.

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RE: MED-V

2011-12-14 Thread Rod Trent

Yeah.it's positioned as an app compatibility component, i.e., move to
Windows 7 and still be able to run your legacy (incompatible) apps
seamlessly.  The app runs in a VM, but you can't tell.  Plus, it integrates
into Configuration Manager 2007 (and better integration in ConfigMgr 2012)
so you can deploy legacy apps with the VM tether.

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MED-V

 

Anyone had any experience of MS' version of desktop virtualization? I just
overheard someone trying to push it in a pre-sales consultancy and I hadn't
heard of it, so I was wondering if it had any serious firepower behind it?
From the marketing blurb it looks like it simply provides a virtualised XP
desktop for legacy apps along the lines of VMWare Workstation/Player, so if
that's true it doesn't seem like a big threat to the likes of XenDesktop.

Cheers,



JRR

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AGPM

2011-12-14 Thread Joseph Heaton

Anyone using AGPM?  I haven't started reading the technet, but I'm about to.  
Good, bad, indifferent?

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RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

2011-12-14 Thread Rod Trent

Oooo.someone said the T word.

 

How about Operations Manager?  Depending on your Microsoft license, you
might find it to be pretty cheap to obtain.

 

From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

 

Dhiraj, I would have a look at SPLUNK.  Sounds like that is where you might
wind up.

 

Warm regards,

Stu 

 

From: Haritwal, Dhiraj [mailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

 

How is GFI EventsManager. Does anybody using it for central monitoring
(single monitoring solution). Atleast solution should have Network/Servers
(All platforms) monitoring.

 

 

Dhiraj  

 

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

 

You may not have a single solution - instead forward to a console of
consoles - BMC Event Monitor or Tivoli.

 

From: Haritwal, Dhiraj [mailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2011 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

 

ASB,

 

Thanks for your response, Budget is not a constraint. Currently we are
monitoring these components individually.

 

Dhiraj

 

 

 

 

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

 

Google's options are viable:

 

https://www.google.com/search?gcx=c
https://www.google.com/search?gcx=cix=e2sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=Centra
l+Log+Management%2FMonitoring+Solution
ix=e2sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=Central+Log+Management%2FMonitoring+Soluti
on

 

What's your budget?  What team in your org will be doing the monitoring?  

 

Those two basic questions are going to have a great deal to say about what
you ultimately choose...



ASB


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On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Haritwal, Dhiraj
dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com wrote:

Stu, I have searched archives but not getting the one which I am looking
for. Everywhere it's either for Windows server events or for Network
monitoring.

 

I am looking for a solution to monitor below  want to know which solution
people are using as a central monitoring tool. 

 

Windows servers events

Unix (AIX) servers events

Firewall Events

Proxy (Appliance) Events

SAN Switches

CISCO Switches

CISCO Routers

Services like (SQL/Oracle/Exchange/IIS etc)

 

 

Dhiraj

 

 

From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

 

Start here for the archives search:

 

http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/utilities/login/login/?

 

Warm regards,

 

Stu 

 

From: Haritwal, Dhiraj [mailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

 

Hi,

 

I am looking for a solution to monitor/manage all IT Infra logs/events ie.
Windows Servers / AIX Servers / SAN Switches / SAN / firewalls / Network
Switches / Routers / all databases etc. Kindly suggest some options.

 

 

Regards,

 

Dhiraj

 

 

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RE: MED-V

2011-12-14 Thread Michael B. Smith

MED-V doesn't compete against XenDesktop.

Microsoft VDI competes against XenDesktop.

They are completely different technologies.

Regards,

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Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MED-V

Anyone had any experience of MS' version of desktop virtualization? I just 
overheard someone trying to push it in a pre-sales consultancy and I hadn't 
heard of it, so I was wondering if it had any serious firepower behind it? From 
the marketing blurb it looks like it simply provides a virtualised XP desktop 
for legacy apps along the lines of VMWare Workstation/Player, so if that's true 
it doesn't seem like a big threat to the likes of XenDesktop.

Cheers,



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Re: Comparing Windows Servers

Tried the old srvinfo.exe tool? That gives you a lot of info, psinfo might
help too.

srvinfo here - http://www.petri.co.il/download_free_reskit_tools.htm

On 14 December 2011 15:47, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

   My search terms must not be configured right cuz I just can't find what
 I need.

  I am at a customer site where I am trying to help them resolve issues
 with their 2008 R2 (XenApp 6) servers.  It appears every server was
 manually built by different people so it appears every server has been
 installed and configured differently.  I am trying to find a utility I can
 use to do a comparison of the servers.  Like what is different in software
 installs, Windows updates  hotfixes, file/registry permissions, etc.

  The servers are supposed to be identical and I am in the process of
 talking to them about automating their XenApp server builds.  They all run
 Server 2008 R2 SP1, XenApp 6, medical software and standard utilities
 (Flash/Reader, etc) required by the software.  But they are just
 different in unexplainable ways.  Would be nice to run something that
 will use one server as the basis for comparing the others against.

  Thanks


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Re: MED-V

So does it sit as an easier/cheaper option to App-V?

On 14 December 2011 15:48, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

 Yeah…it’s positioned as an app compatibility component, i.e., move to
 Windows 7 and still be able to run your legacy (incompatible) apps
 seamlessly.  The app runs in a VM, but you can’t tell.  Plus, it integrates
 into Configuration Manager 2007 (and better integration in ConfigMgr 2012)
 so you can deploy legacy apps with the VM tether.

 ** **

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:37 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* MED-V

 ** **

 Anyone had any experience of MS' version of desktop virtualization? I just
 overheard someone trying to push it in a pre-sales consultancy and I hadn't
 heard of it, so I was wondering if it had any serious firepower behind it?
 From the marketing blurb it looks like it simply provides a virtualised XP
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Re: Anyone using Dell switches

They're okay, but I'm not that impressed.

I'd sooner go with DLink or Netgear myself, if I wasn't going to bother
with Cisco or HP.

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On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Bob Hartung bhart...@wiscoind.com wrote:

 **
 I agree that there's much that can be done dealing with the vendor to fix
 this specific problem but I'd still be interested in hearing opinions on
 Dell switches.

 --

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 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
 Fax: (608) 835-7399
 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com

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 *From:* Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 ]
 *Sent:* Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:21:41 -0600

 *Subject:* Re: Anyone using Dell switches

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:
  But yes, I told the reseller of the error, and it's taking forever.  I'll
  take blame, but I'm not cool with a simple return taking four month.  I
  can't tell if this an HP or reseller issue, though.

 It's definitely a reseller issue. It may also be an HP issue, but
 again, that's none of your business. The whole point of the reseller
 relationship is they deal with the suppliers, you deal with just them.
 If they're not doing that, the reseller is just pocketing a
 percentage for doing nothing.

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Re: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

Okay, help us out here.

What other tools are you using now?  That will give us some perspective on
where you could/should go.

GFI EventsManager is decent enough, but it's not the first type of solution
that comes to mind for what you requested.

I'm thinking more along Ken's lines, pending more info.

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On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Haritwal, Dhiraj 
dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com wrote:

  How is GFI EventsManager. Does anybody using it for central monitoring
 (single monitoring solution). Atleast solution should have Network/Servers
 (All platforms) monitoring.

 ** **

 ** **

 Dhiraj  

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:17 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

  ** **

 You may not have a single solution – instead forward to a “console of
 consoles” – BMC Event Monitor or Tivoli.

 ** **

 *From:* Haritwal, Dhiraj [mailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 December 2011 12:05 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

 ** **

 ASB,

 ** **

 Thanks for your response, Budget is not a constraint. Currently we are
 monitoring these components individually.

 ** **

 Dhiraj

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:49 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

 ** **

 Google's options are viable:

 ** **


 https://www.google.com/search?gcx=cix=e2sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=Central+Log+Management%2FMonitoring+Solution
 

 ** **

 What's your budget?  What team in your org will be doing the monitoring?
 

 ** **

 Those two basic questions are going to have a great deal to say about what
 you ultimately choose...
 

 *ASB*

 *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*

 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…*

 ** **

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Haritwal, Dhiraj 
 dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com wrote:

 Stu, I have searched archives but not getting the one which I am looking
 for. Everywhere it’s either for Windows server events or for Network
 monitoring.

  

 I am looking for a solution to monitor below  want to know which solution
 people are using as a central monitoring tool. 

  

 Windows servers events

 Unix (AIX) servers events

 Firewall Events

 Proxy (Appliance) Events

 SAN Switches

 CISCO Switches

 CISCO Routers

 Services like (SQL/Oracle/Exchange/IIS etc)

  

  

 Dhiraj

  

  

 *From:* Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:15 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

  

 Start here for the archives search:

  

 http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/utilities/login/login/?

  

 Warm regards,

  

 Stu 

  

 *From:* Haritwal, Dhiraj [mailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:01 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

  

 Hi,

  

 I am looking for a solution to monitor/manage all IT Infra logs/events ie.
 Windows Servers / AIX Servers / SAN Switches / SAN / firewalls / Network
 Switches / Routers / all databases etc. Kindly suggest some options.

  

  

 Regards,

  

 Dhiraj

  

 ** **




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Re: Comparing Windows Servers

MSINFO32 and SYSTEMINFO will generate lots of data for comparison purposes.

I usually run a script that has these commands and compare them with
BeyondCompare or WinMerge

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On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

   My search terms must not be configured right cuz I just can't find what
 I need.

  I am at a customer site where I am trying to help them resolve issues
 with their 2008 R2 (XenApp 6) servers.  It appears every server was
 manually built by different people so it appears every server has been
 installed and configured differently.  I am trying to find a utility I can
 use to do a comparison of the servers.  Like what is different in software
 installs, Windows updates  hotfixes, file/registry permissions, etc.

  The servers are supposed to be identical and I am in the process of
 talking to them about automating their XenApp server builds.  They all run
 Server 2008 R2 SP1, XenApp 6, medical software and standard utilities
 (Flash/Reader, etc) required by the software.  But they are just
 different in unexplainable ways.  Would be nice to run something that
 will use one server as the basis for comparing the others against.

  Thanks


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 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/




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Re: AGPM

The last three enterprise sites (including the one I am working with now) I 
have worked at use it and it appears very helpful.



Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.govmailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov
Reply-To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:53:33 +
To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: AGPM

Anyone using AGPM?  I haven’t started reading the technet, but I’m about to.  
Good, bad, indifferent?


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Re: AGPM

Step-by-Step Guide for Microsoft Advanced Group Policy Management 4.0
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee378482.aspx


Just to help everyone else out...

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On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote:

  Anyone using AGPM?  I haven’t started reading the technet, but I’m about
 to.  Good, bad, indifferent?




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Re: MED-V

Ah, another technology I was unaware of.

So by definition, the pre-sales guy I just overheard was talking complete
b*llocks



On 14 December 2011 15:58, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

  MED-V doesn’t compete against XenDesktop.

 ** **

 Microsoft VDI competes against XenDesktop.

 ** **

 They are completely different technologies.

 ** **

 Regards,

 ** **

 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 ** **

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:37 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* MED-V

 ** **

 Anyone had any experience of MS' version of desktop virtualization? I just
 overheard someone trying to push it in a pre-sales consultancy and I hadn't
 heard of it, so I was wondering if it had any serious firepower behind it?
 From the marketing blurb it looks like it simply provides a virtualised XP
 desktop for legacy apps along the lines of VMWare Workstation/Player, so if
 that's true it doesn't seem like a big threat to the likes of XenDesktop.

 Cheers,



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Re: Comparing Windows Servers

2011-12-14 Thread Christopher Bodnar

Not really a direct answer to your question, but have you looked into 
provisioning server? That would save you the time of not having to do 
this. All servers running off the master image will be identical. 




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Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
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From:   Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:   12/14/2011 10:52 AM
Subject:Comparing Windows Servers



My search terms must not be configured right cuz I just can't find what I 
need.

I am at a customer site where I am trying to help them resolve issues with 
their 2008 R2 (XenApp 6) servers.  It appears every server was manually 
built by different people so it appears every server has been installed 
and configured differently.  I am trying to find a utility I can use to do 
a comparison of the servers.  Like what is different in software installs, 
Windows updates  hotfixes, file/registry permissions, etc.

The servers are supposed to be identical and I am in the process of 
talking to them about automating their XenApp server builds.  They all run 
Server 2008 R2 SP1, XenApp 6, medical software and standard utilities 
(Flash/Reader, etc) required by the software.  But they are just 
different in unexplainable ways.  Would be nice to run something that 
will use one server as the basis for comparing the others against.

Thanks


Carl Webster
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http://www.CarlWebster.com
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RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

2011-12-14 Thread David Lum

We are looking at SIEM solution ourselves and Splunk and ArcSight are the two 
finalists. We started with 10-11 and narrowed down by matching our requirements 
with what they offer.

Dave

From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

Dhiraj, I would have a look at SPLUNK.  Sounds like that is where you might 
wind up.

Warm regards,
Stu

From: Haritwal, Dhiraj 
[mailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com]mailto:[mailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

How is GFI EventsManager. Does anybody using it for central monitoring (single 
monitoring solution). Atleast solution should have Network/Servers (All 
platforms) monitoring.

Dhiraj

From: Ken Schaefer 
[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]mailto:[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

You may not have a single solution - instead forward to a console of consoles 
- BMC Event Monitor or Tivoli.

From: Haritwal, Dhiraj 
[mailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com]mailto:[mailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2011 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

ASB,

Thanks for your response, Budget is not a constraint. Currently we are 
monitoring these components individually.

Dhiraj

From: Andrew S. Baker 
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

Google's options are viable:

https://www.google.com/search?gcx=cix=e2sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=Central+Log+Management%2FMonitoring+Solution

What's your budget?  What team in your org will be doing the monitoring?

Those two basic questions are going to have a great deal to say about what you 
ultimately choose...
ASB

http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker

Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Haritwal, Dhiraj 
dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.commailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com wrote:
Stu, I have searched archives but not getting the one which I am looking for. 
Everywhere it's either for Windows server events or for Network monitoring.

I am looking for a solution to monitor below  want to know which solution 
people are using as a central monitoring tool.

Windows servers events
Unix (AIX) servers events
Firewall Events
Proxy (Appliance) Events
SAN Switches
CISCO Switches
CISCO Routers
Services like (SQL/Oracle/Exchange/IIS etc)

Dhiraj

From: Stu Sjouwerman 
[mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.commailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

Start here for the archives search:

http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/utilities/login/login/?

Warm regards,

Stu

From: Haritwal, Dhiraj 
[mailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.commailto:dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Central Log Management/Monitoring Solution

Hi,

I am looking for a solution to monitor/manage all IT Infra logs/events ie. 
Windows Servers / AIX Servers / SAN Switches / SAN / firewalls / Network 
Switches / Routers / all databases etc. Kindly suggest some options.

Regards,

Dhiraj

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RE: MED-V

2011-12-14 Thread Michael B. Smith

This is a really good ebook and a quick read. Strongly recommended.

App-V, MED-V, and VDI are all targeted to solve different problems.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/microsoft_press/archive/2010/02/16/free-ebook-understanding-microsoft-virtualization-r2-solutions.aspx

Regards,

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From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MED-V

So does it sit as an easier/cheaper option to App-V?
On 14 December 2011 15:48, Rod Trent 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
Yeah...it's positioned as an app compatibility component, i.e., move to Windows 
7 and still be able to run your legacy (incompatible) apps seamlessly.  The app 
runs in a VM, but you can't tell.  Plus, it integrates into Configuration 
Manager 2007 (and better integration in ConfigMgr 2012) so you can deploy 
legacy apps with the VM tether.

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MED-V

Anyone had any experience of MS' version of desktop virtualization? I just 
overheard someone trying to push it in a pre-sales consultancy and I hadn't 
heard of it, so I was wondering if it had any serious firepower behind it? From 
the marketing blurb it looks like it simply provides a virtualised XP desktop 
for legacy apps along the lines of VMWare Workstation/Player, so if that's true 
it doesn't seem like a big threat to the likes of XenDesktop.

Cheers,



JRR

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OT: Desperate SAP question

I suppose I should find a decent SAP forum to post this on (anyone know of
any?), but in the interests of desperation, I will throw it out there in
case anyone knows

Does anyone know where (Registry, ini file, etc.) that SAP version 720
stores the Language settings for the application? I thought it was in
HKCU\Software\SAP\General (and indeed Process Monitor shows it looking in
there), but nothing either appears in there or is read from there whenever
I change the input language. This is driving me insane, as it's the last
thing I need to capture before this blasted app is out of my hair...

Here's hoping,





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RE: MED-V

2011-12-14 Thread Rod Trent

Two different things.

 

App-V is running the app in a virtual instance, but the app is installed and
resides on a VM server (i.e., cloud or whatever you want to call it).  Med-V
has the app installed and running on the local PC in a local VM.

 

Incidentally, Configuration Manager can deploy both.

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MED-V

 

So does it sit as an easier/cheaper option to App-V?

On 14 December 2011 15:48, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

Yeah.it's positioned as an app compatibility component, i.e., move to
Windows 7 and still be able to run your legacy (incompatible) apps
seamlessly.  The app runs in a VM, but you can't tell.  Plus, it integrates
into Configuration Manager 2007 (and better integration in ConfigMgr 2012)
so you can deploy legacy apps with the VM tether.

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MED-V

 

Anyone had any experience of MS' version of desktop virtualization? I just
overheard someone trying to push it in a pre-sales consultancy and I hadn't
heard of it, so I was wondering if it had any serious firepower behind it?
From the marketing blurb it looks like it simply provides a virtualised XP
desktop for legacy apps along the lines of VMWare Workstation/Player, so if
that's true it doesn't seem like a big threat to the likes of XenDesktop.

Cheers,



JRR

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RE: Anyone using Dell switches

2011-12-14 Thread Paul Hutchings

We've had a few.  They work.

Tbh these days if buying switches my biggest must have is a vendor who is 
common enough that you're likely to find cli examples for things you may want 
to do.

If you just want a reasonably simple switch to do reasonably simple things, 
honstly, I don't think you're likely to end up regretting buying a HP, Dell, 
Cisco, Juniper, or any of the big players.

From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com]
Sent: 14 December 2011 03:00
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone using Dell switches

I agree that there's much that can be done dealing with the vendor to fix this 
specific problem but I'd still be interested in hearing opinions on Dell 
switches.

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To: NT System Admin Issues 
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Subject: Re: Anyone using Dell switches

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Tom Miller 
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 But yes, I told the reseller of the error, and it's taking forever.  I'll
 take blame, but I'm not cool with a simple return taking four month.  I
 can't tell if this an HP or reseller issue, though.

It's definitely a reseller issue. It may also be an HP issue, but
again, that's none of your business. The whole point of the reseller
relationship is they deal with the suppliers, you deal with just them.
If they're not doing that, the reseller is just pocketing a
percentage for doing nothing.

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Re: Comparing Windows Servers

ServerInfo.exe is the replacement but it doesn't give enough info and neither 
does PSInfo.  Bummer.

Thanks



Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/

From: James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
Reply-To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:59:01 +
To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: Comparing Windows Servers

Tried the old srvinfo.exe tool? That gives you a lot of info, psinfo might help 
too.

srvinfo here - http://www.petri.co.il/download_free_reskit_tools.htm

On 14 December 2011 15:47, Webster 
webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:
My search terms must not be configured right cuz I just can't find what I need.

I am at a customer site where I am trying to help them resolve issues with 
their 2008 R2 (XenApp 6) servers.  It appears every server was manually built 
by different people so it appears every server has been installed and 
configured differently.  I am trying to find a utility I can use to do a 
comparison of the servers.  Like what is different in software installs, 
Windows updates  hotfixes, file/registry permissions, etc.

The servers are supposed to be identical and I am in the process of talking to 
them about automating their XenApp server builds.  They all run Server 2008 R2 
SP1, XenApp 6, medical software and standard utilities (Flash/Reader, etc) 
required by the software.  But they are just different in unexplainable ways. 
 Would be nice to run something that will use one server as the basis for 
comparing the others against.

Thanks



Carl Webster

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Re: McAfee deep defender

2011-12-14 Thread Kurt Buff

Ah - I haven't had time to look at UEFI. Sounds like a definite step
forward.

Kurt

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 15:05, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

  There are a few answers to that, but people complain.

 ** **

 UEFI is designed to do just that. Cryptographic hashes on all boot
 components to ensure that boot is secure, then allow Windows (or whatever
 OS) to verify via cryptographic hash that individual components are secure.
 

 ** **

 It’s a hierarchical protection mechanism, but it must begin at POST.

 ** **

 Regards,

 ** **

 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 ** **

 *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:55 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: McAfee deep defender

 ** **

 A rootkit doesn't have to be deployed via user access only.  A
 vulnerability in a kernel level component could enable an attacker to get
 the code into the system.

 ** **

 What then?   How does the OS protect you when the OS has been subverted?
  (Which is exactly why rootkits are so deadly)

 ** **

 ** **

 *ASB*

 *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*

 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…*



 

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:***
 *

 If the user can't write to kernel space, or install software that does
 (separation of privileges, and proper segregation of userland from the
 kernel), then the prevention is done, and the logging is nice to have.

 As you know, one of the major abuses that OSes make is to allow users to
 install printer and graphics drivers that write to the kernel's address
 space. It's handy and faster, but oh, so wrong...

 ** **

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:24, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:*
 ***

 So, hardening ones OS can provide the following benefits?

 ** **

 • Preventing and logging write attempts to the system’s interrupt
 descriptor table (IDT) and the system service dispatch table (SSDT)

 • Stopping changes to the processor system transitioning table

 ** **

 *ASB*

 *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*

 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…*



 

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:***
 *

 Same answers as always: Harden the OS, impose separation of abilities and
 limit administrator access. Whitelisting apps, too, for that matter. 

 ** **

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 08:15, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:*
 ***

 Rootkits are largely already invisible to the end user.

 ** **

 Of course, there is an element of risk to this, but doing nothing is not a
 valid response to the existing threats, and you have yet to substantiate
 any specific weakness that would allow malware writers to have a field
 day with this.

 ** **

 Allowing the end user to install or deploy technology early enough that it
 can circumvent a rootkit is highly desirable, is it not?  If you
 disagree, please feel free to offer some viable alternatives...
 

 ** **

 *ASB*

 *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*

 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…*



 

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:***
 *

 Because once they corrupt it, it will be at least as invisible to the end
 user as a rootkit. And you know it's going to be a big fat target.

 ** **

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 04:41, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:*
 ***

 Why would they have a field day with this?
 

 *ASB*

 *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*

 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…*



 

 On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:***
 *

 Yes, it will be very effective for malware writers, who are going to
 have a field day with this. It's just another layer of abstraction to
 obfuscate functionality, and make it even harder to troubleshoot
 problems.



 Kurt


 On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:27, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
  Anyone care to comment on this?
  http://www.mcafee.com/us/resources/data-sheets/ds-deep-defender.pdf
 
 
 
  Note the requirements and specifications on the left. Looks like the
 Intel
  purchase of McAfee is responsible for this one, the questions is will it
  really be effective?
 
  David Lum
  Systems Engineer // NWEATM
  Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
 

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Re: Comparing Windows Servers

Hehe. I am sure Webster knows everything about Citrix Provisioning!

On 14 December 2011 16:29, Christopher Bodnar
christopher_bod...@glic.comwrote:

Not really a direct answer to your question, but have you looked into
provisioning server? That would save you the time of not having to do this.
All servers running off the master image will be identical.

Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003

From:Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Date:12/14/2011 10:52 AM
Subject:Comparing Windows Servers
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My search terms must not be configured right cuz I just can't find what I
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I am at a customer site where I am trying to help them resolve issues with
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built by different people so it appears every server has been installed and
configured differently. I am trying to find a utility I can use to do a
comparison of the servers. Like what is different in software installs,
Windows updates hotfixes, file/registry permissions, etc.

The servers are supposed to be identical and I am in the process of
talking to them about automating their XenApp server builds. They all run
Server 2008 R2 SP1, XenApp 6, medical software and standard utilities
(Flash/Reader, etc) required by the software. But they are just
different in unexplainable ways. Would be nice to run something that
will use one server as the basis for comparing the others against.

Thanks

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From: Christopher Bodnar 
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:29:48 -0500
To: NT Issues 
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Subject: Re: Comparing Windows Servers

Not really a direct answer to your question, but have you looked into 
provisioning server? That would save you the time of not having to do this. All 
servers running off the master image will be identical.




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Subject:Comparing Windows Servers




My search terms must not be configured right cuz I just can't find what I need.

I am at a customer site where I am trying to help them resolve issues with 
their 2008 R2 (XenApp 6) servers.  Itappears every server was manually built by 
different people so it appears every server has been installed and configured 
differently.  I am trying to find a utility I can use to do a comparison of the 
servers.  Like what is different in software installs, Windows updates  
hotfixes, file/registry permissions, etc.

The servers are supposed to be identical and I am in the process of talking to 
them about automating their XenApp server builds.  They all run Server 2008 R2 
SP1, XenApp 6, medical software and standard utilities (Flash/Reader, etc) 
required by the software.  But they are just different in unexplainable ways. 
 Would be nice to run something that will use one server as the basis for 
comparing the others against.



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Re: MED-V

Cheers, I will have a good look!

On 14 December 2011 16:33, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

This is a really good ebook and a quick read. Strongly recommended.

** **

App-V, MED-V, and VDI are all targeted to solve different problems.

** **

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/microsoft_press/archive/2010/02/16/free-ebook-understanding-microsoft-virtualization-r2-solutions.aspx

** **

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*Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:02 AM

*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: MED-V

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So does it sit as an easier/cheaper option to App-V?

On 14 December 2011 15:48, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

Yeah…it’s positioned as an app compatibility component, i.e., move to
Windows 7 and still be able to run your legacy (incompatible) apps
seamlessly. The app runs in a VM, but you can’t tell. Plus, it integrates
into Configuration Manager 2007 (and better integration in ConfigMgr 2012)
so you can deploy legacy apps with the VM tether.

*From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:37 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* MED-V

Anyone had any experience of MS' version of desktop virtualization? I just
overheard someone trying to push it in a pre-sales consultancy and I hadn't
heard of it, so I was wondering if it had any serious firepower behind it?
From the marketing blurb it looks like it simply provides a virtualised XP
desktop for legacy apps along the lines of VMWare Workstation/Player, so if
that's true it doesn't seem like a big threat to the likes of XenDesktop.

Cheers,

JRR

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RE: VDI

2011-12-14 Thread pdw1914

Initial deployment would be around 100 users and a possibility of 50-80 RAS 
users.
Thanks for the reminder about Brian Madden.  I forgot all about that site.

Subject: Re: VDI
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
From: kz2...@googlemail.com
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:37:39 +

I have never used the Symantec solution, but XenDesktop and View are the most 
popular. However for a small amount of users the complexity of XenDesktop is 
quite high. VDI-in-a-box is the less complex Citrix solution, but as yet there 
is no easy upgrade path from VIAB to Xen should you need it.

Brian Madden's website has some good comparisons of VDI products and other 
virtualisation software.
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:09:06 -0500To: NT System Admin 
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ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: VDI

Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
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RE: VDI

2011-12-14 Thread pdw1914

I agree, Harry.  I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it 
yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution.

Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500
Subject: Re: VDI
From: hbo...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you 
looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?
http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437

I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM 
and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which 
ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, 
for you.

Harry.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM,  pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote:

Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).

I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone.  

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RE: VDI

2011-12-14 Thread Kelsey, John

We're using GE Centricity in our practices and went with VMware View for our 
desktops.  So far we're very pleased with it, running about 400 desktops now.  
It sure makes doing updates and patches and whole lot easier and faster.  We 
can re-deploy all of the desktops in just a few hours.

Thanks
JCK

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Re: VDI

2011-12-14 Thread Harry Singh

If you already have VMware in your backend, they make pricing very
competitive. Especially for the number of desktops you're planning on
deploying.

Disclaimer: The thought of a Symantec product doing VDI just seems to leave
a bad taste in my mouth. But that's just my own biased opinion based on no
prior information or experience with the product or its capabilities at all.

harry.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:42 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote:

  I agree, Harry.  I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote
 on it yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution.

 --
 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500
 Subject: Re: VDI
 From: hbo...@gmail.com
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


 I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have
 you looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?

 http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437

 I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either
 VM and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space.
 Which ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or
 otherwise, for you.

 Harry.

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we
 looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified
 three:  Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to
 be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec).
 I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I
 have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has
 anybody done any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good
 compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on
 price alone.
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Re: VDI

I think Infoworld just did a comparison of XenDesktop and View.



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From: pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com
Reply-To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 -0500
To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: VDI

I agree, Harry.  I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it 
yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution.


Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500
Subject: Re: VDI
From: hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com
To: 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you 
looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?

http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437

I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM 
and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which 
ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, 
for you.

Harry.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, 
pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote:
Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
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Re: VDI

2011-12-14 Thread Rankin, James R

I wasn't keen on View for remote users. YMMV, but I found PCoIP rubbish 
remotely. Things may have improved.

Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

-Original Message-
From: pdw1...@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: VDI

I agree, Harry.  I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it 
yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution.

Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500
Subject: Re: VDI
From: hbo...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you 
looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?
http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437

I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM 
and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which 
ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, 
for you.

Harry.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM,  pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote:

Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).

I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone.  

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Re: AGPM

2011-12-14 Thread Kurt Buff

Thank you for that. Very helpful.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 08:16, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Step-by-Step Guide for Microsoft Advanced Group Policy Management 4.0
 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee378482.aspx


 Just to help everyone else out...

 * *

 *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
 Technology for the SMB market…

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  Anyone using AGPM?  I haven’t started reading the technet, but I’m
 about to.  Good, bad, indifferent?


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Re: VDI

Here it is:

http://www.infoworld.com/d/virtualization/vdi-shoot-out-citrix-xendesktop-vs-vmware-view-181691?source=IFWNLE_nlt_daily_2011-12-14



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From: pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com
Reply-To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 -0500
To: NT Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: VDI

I agree, Harry.  I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it 
yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution.


Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500
Subject: Re: VDI
From: hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com
To: 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you 
looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?

http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437

I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM 
and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which 
ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, 
for you.

Harry.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, 
pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote:
Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone.
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Re: VDI

2011-12-14 Thread Harry Singh

What kind of thin clients are you using at the desktop? Are you using
vcenter to deploy updates and patches to the View desktops? All 400
desktops are on a LAN or do you have some connecting via WAN?

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote:

 We’re using GE Centricity in our practices and went with VMware View for
 our desktops.  So far we’re very pleased with it, running about 400
 desktops now.  It sure makes doing updates and patches and whole lot easier
 and faster.  We can re-deploy all of the desktops in just a few hours.  **
 **

 ** **

 Thanks

 JCK

 ** **

 *From:* pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:09 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* VDI

 ** **

 Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we
 looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified
 three:  Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to
 be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec).
 I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I
 have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has
 anybody done any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good
 compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on
 price alone.  

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RE: VDI

2011-12-14 Thread Garcia-Moran, Carlos

+1 on View, we have about 75 desktops (XP and W7) with the basic view client 
setup, Easy to deploy, configure and manage. It helps If you already have a 
vSphere infrastructure and knowledge in place, but you can get some pretty good 
deals on a view package.

Thx!

CGM

From: Kelsey, John [mailto:jckel...@drmc.org]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI

We're using GE Centricity in our practices and went with VMware View for our 
desktops.  So far we're very pleased with it, running about 400 desktops now.  
It sure makes doing updates and patches and whole lot easier and faster.  We 
can re-deploy all of the desktops in just a few hours.

Thanks
JCK

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[mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]mailto:[mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI

Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
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