Re: Code crackers break 923-bit encryption record

[Ben N]

Steve Gibson explained it pretty well on the latest Security Now.

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:55 AM, David Lum  wrote:
> >
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57457470-83/code-crackers-break-923-bit-encryption-record/?tag=txt;title
>
>  Article has little real info and is factually incorrect on important
> aspects.  Press release from Fujitsu is somewhat better:
>
> http://www.fujitsu.com/global/news/pr/archives/month/2012/20120618-01.html
>
>  Fujitsu didn't use pairing-based crypto to break something else,
> they *attacked PBC* using new methods.  I'm not familiar with PBC so I
> don't know if it is actually being used as a "next generation"
> solution as Fujitsu asserts, or if it was more like a research
> project.  They also don't appear to publish any details on how the
> attack worked.  Some attacks are more easily mitigated then others, so
> this could mean anything from "PBC is completely useless" to "don't do
> this stupid thing to begin with, and you'll be fine".
>
>  Crypto is an especially difficult subject for the tech press to
> report on, as it's fiendishly complicated by design, and bad analysis
> tends to be just as incomprehensible as good analysis.
>
> -- Ben
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RE: web and email hosting

[Jimmy Tran]

They currently have Verio and they suck.  Lots of spam is coming
through.  There really isn't a budget at the moment but I think $5 per
user per month is reasonable?  There will be about 10 users that will
need mailboxes.  The website goes down constantly so we will be moving
that over as well.

 

Is that enough detail?

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: web and email hosting

 

Feel free to elaborate on your/their requirements.

 

You know: budget, current provider, more info...




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On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Jimmy Tran  wrote:

I have a client who is looking to move to a different web and email
hosting provider.  I was looking at Rackspace but I wanted to see what
people on this board think.  Any suggestions?

 

TIA,

 

Jimmy

 

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RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain

[David Lum]

I use Host Monitor and simply look for the string "Computer Account Created" in 
the %reply% (aka description). Catches computer creation but not user, prefect!

Dave

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:56 PM
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Subject: Re: How many in your company can join systems to domain

But not out loud...   Let's hear it...
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:13 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
Nevermind, answered my own Q.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:23 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain

Follow-on: What's the best way to get notified when a machine is joined to the 
domain? Isn't there an EventID that can be monitored on DC's?

Dave

From: Don Kuhlman 
[mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:01 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How many in your company can join systems to domain

Jumping in late on this - maybe totally off base - but I thought the default 
limit for any authenticated user to join a computer to the domain was 10
 - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/243327

Don K

From: Brian Desmond mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>>

To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain

This is a task you want delegated out to the edges if you ask me. There 
shouldn't be any sort of escalation involved in something trivial like this 
unless you've got a highly automated build process that means that only rare 
cases require a manual join.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

w - 312.625.1438 | c   - 312.731.3132

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:19 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How many in your company can join systems to domain

Subject line pretty much says it. We have 600 employees and an IT staff of 
50-ish (including developers) and I swear all 50 can join systems to the 
domain. Certainly 10 of them can and that seems like a lot.

Brought up because these guys drive me crazy by loosely following naming 
standards, not moving to the appropriate OU, and not putting descriptions in AD.
David Lum
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Re: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> >> How much depends on the circumstances, the specific laws, and likely
> >> jurisdictional variation.
>
> Also: How deep their pockets are, how well they knew about the problem
> beforehand (or should have known), and whether they have any
> written/unwritten policies for or against the thing that was done.

  Also: How good each side's lawyers are, the mood of the judge, and
the phase of the moon.

-- Ben

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Re: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:04 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> “Do you believe you company should be liable for injuries while driving and
> using a device?” (Yes\no)

P.S.: A smart lawyer once told me there are two things everyone should
know about the law:

(1) The law doesn't have to be fair
(2) The law doesn't have to make sense

  Always keep those two facts in mind, or you may be unpleasantly surprised.

-- Ben

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Re: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:04 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> “Do you believe you company should be liable for injuries while driving and
> using a device?” (Yes\no)

  Very few, if any of us here are lawyers, so this is prolly the wrong
forum.  But since many of us (myself certainly) enjoy playing armchair
lawyer:

  Generally: If one is acting as the agent of another entity, that
other entity is often held liable for the agent's actions.  If, while
acting on behalf of Conglomco, I cheat some orphans out of their
gruel, Conglomco gets some/all of the blame.  How much depends on the
circumstances, the specific laws, and likely jurisdictional variation.

  For this case in particular: If Conglomco expects me to answer the
phone and operate a motor vehicle at the same time, Conglomco better
be prepared to be held liable for that expectation.

  Note that just because Conglomco incurs some liability, that doesn't
mean I incur no liability.  E.g., in the US, if Conglomco has me pour
toxic waste into the river, Conglomco can get in trouble, but I,
personally can also get in trouble.  Environmental statutes apply to
both.

  Again, law can very wildly between jurisdictions, so just because
the law here says something, that doesn't mean the law there works the
same way.

-- Ben

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Re: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

[Rankin, James R]

Well in this country, driving whilst using a phone is against the law, so I'm 
assuming that pretty much nails it down, same as driving drunk. If they just 
plain crash on company business then that's different, I'd agree

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault 
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:20:28 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Nah, you're not responsible 
while behind the wheel

If Joe Salesman is driving his personal vehicle on company business and gets 
into a wreck a case could be made that holds the company responsible 
(irrelevant if a phone is involved). If Joe is driving a company vehicle there 
is no question the company is at fault.

Yes, that is how it works. Don't have to like it, don't have to agree with it, 
but a few minutes spent talking to an insurance adjustor may help you 
understand.

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com
[Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160]

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

That's a crock. Would you perform other work-related duties while driving? You 
can't make a business responsible for an idiot who works for them, unless they 
are actually on-site and working. Does anyone's contract stipulate answering 
phone calls whilst driving, operating heavy machinery or cutting a tree down, 
etc?
---Blackberried

From: Daniel Chenault 
mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com>>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:07:49 +
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

Absolutely not. As long as the engine is running and the transmission is in 
gear the driver's number 1 priority is piloting that 2-ton guided missile. 
Everything else is secondary, even a medical emergency since it would do the 
patient no good for the driver to get into an accident.

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com
[Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160]

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

I attended a mobile device / BYOD webinar today and some of the discussion was 
about mobile devices and driving. They had polls during the meeting and one of 
them was:
"Do you believe you company should be liable for injuries while driving and 
using a device?" (Yes\no)

And while I don't know how many attended this webinar (might have been 20, 
might have been 200). 66% of the respondents said YES! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? In 
other words when you're driving you're not 100% responsible for your portable 
device distracting you?

Put into the worst case, if I you are using some device while driving for my 
company and you hit my kid, it's *my* fault you don't have the capacity to pay 
attention to driving? If that's the case as a business owner I reserve the 
right to disable forward motion of the vehicle any time you want to use said 
corporate device.

Is there some scenario I am overlooking where it's not the drivers' primary job 
to be in control of their vehicle?
David Lum
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RE: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

[Daniel Chenault]

If Joe Salesman is driving his personal vehicle on company business and gets 
into a wreck a case could be made that holds the company responsible 
(irrelevant if a phone is involved). If Joe is driving a company vehicle there 
is no question the company is at fault.

Yes, that is how it works. Don't have to like it, don't have to agree with it, 
but a few minutes spent talking to an insurance adjustor may help you 
understand.

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com
[Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160]

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

That's a crock. Would you perform other work-related duties while driving? You 
can't make a business responsible for an idiot who works for them, unless they 
are actually on-site and working. Does anyone's contract stipulate answering 
phone calls whilst driving, operating heavy machinery or cutting a tree down, 
etc?
---Blackberried

From: Daniel Chenault 
mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com>>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:07:49 +
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

Absolutely not. As long as the engine is running and the transmission is in 
gear the driver's number 1 priority is piloting that 2-ton guided missile. 
Everything else is secondary, even a medical emergency since it would do the 
patient no good for the driver to get into an accident.

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com
[Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160]

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

I attended a mobile device / BYOD webinar today and some of the discussion was 
about mobile devices and driving. They had polls during the meeting and one of 
them was:
"Do you believe you company should be liable for injuries while driving and 
using a device?" (Yes\no)

And while I don't know how many attended this webinar (might have been 20, 
might have been 200). 66% of the respondents said YES! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? In 
other words when you're driving you're not 100% responsible for your portable 
device distracting you?

Put into the worst case, if I you are using some device while driving for my 
company and you hit my kid, it's *my* fault you don't have the capacity to pay 
attention to driving? If that's the case as a business owner I reserve the 
right to disable forward motion of the vehicle any time you want to use said 
corporate device.

Is there some scenario I am overlooking where it's not the drivers' primary job 
to be in control of their vehicle?
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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Re: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

[Rankin, James R]

That's a crock. Would you perform other work-related duties while driving? You 
can't make a business responsible for an idiot who works for them, unless they 
are actually on-site and working. Does anyone's contract stipulate answering 
phone calls whilst driving, operating heavy machinery or cutting a tree down, 
etc?

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault 
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:07:49 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Nah, you're not responsible 
while behind the wheel

Absolutely not. As long as the engine is running and the transmission is in 
gear the driver's number 1 priority is piloting that 2-ton guided missile. 
Everything else is secondary, even a medical emergency since it would do the 
patient no good for the driver to get into an accident.

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com
[Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160]

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

I attended a mobile device / BYOD webinar today and some of the discussion was 
about mobile devices and driving. They had polls during the meeting and one of 
them was:
"Do you believe you company should be liable for injuries while driving and 
using a device?" (Yes\no)

And while I don't know how many attended this webinar (might have been 20, 
might have been 200). 66% of the respondents said YES! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? In 
other words when you're driving you're not 100% responsible for your portable 
device distracting you?

Put into the worst case, if I you are using some device while driving for my 
company and you hit my kid, it's *my* fault you don't have the capacity to pay 
attention to driving? If that's the case as a business owner I reserve the 
right to disable forward motion of the vehicle any time you want to use said 
corporate device.

Is there some scenario I am overlooking where it's not the drivers' primary job 
to be in control of their vehicle?
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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RE: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

[Daniel Chenault]

Absolutely not. As long as the engine is running and the transmission is in 
gear the driver's number 1 priority is piloting that 2-ton guided missile. 
Everything else is secondary, even a medical emergency since it would do the 
patient no good for the driver to get into an accident.

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com
[Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160]

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Nah, you're not responsible while behind the wheel

I attended a mobile device / BYOD webinar today and some of the discussion was 
about mobile devices and driving. They had polls during the meeting and one of 
them was:
"Do you believe you company should be liable for injuries while driving and 
using a device?" (Yes\no)

And while I don't know how many attended this webinar (might have been 20, 
might have been 200). 66% of the respondents said YES! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? In 
other words when you're driving you're not 100% responsible for your portable 
device distracting you?

Put into the worst case, if I you are using some device while driving for my 
company and you hit my kid, it's *my* fault you don't have the capacity to pay 
attention to driving? If that's the case as a business owner I reserve the 
right to disable forward motion of the vehicle any time you want to use said 
corporate device.

Is there some scenario I am overlooking where it's not the drivers' primary job 
to be in control of their vehicle?
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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RE: 79 Banks Breached Visa and Mastercard accounts hacked

[Ziots, Edward]

Yep aint that rich... 

 

Z

 

Edward Ziots

CISSP, Security +, Network +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

ezi...@lifespan.org

 

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: 79 Banks Breached Visa and Mastercard accounts hacked

 

Loved this comment-  "This guy should be hunted down and executed. Of
course we know the police authorities are too busy with people sharing
mp3s to be bothered."

 

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [dkim-failure] Re: 79 Banks Breached Visa and Mastercard
accounts hacked

 

Nice!   (obviously not from the perspective of the victims)


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On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Ziots, Edward 
wrote:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/hacker-claims-mass-bank-breach-releas
es-visa-mastercard-data/12519?tag=nl.e036

 

About 1,700 accounts and 50G worth of data taken...

 

Doesn't surprise me much,

 

Z

 

Edward Ziots

CISSP, Security +, Network +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

ezi...@lifespan.org

 

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RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain

[David Lum]

Nevermind, answered my own Q.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain

Follow-on: What’s the best way to get notified when a machine is joined to the 
domain? Isn’t there an EventID that can be monitored on DC’s?

Dave

From: Don Kuhlman 
[mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How many in your company can join systems to domain

Jumping in late on this - maybe totally off base - but I thought the default 
limit for any authenticated user to join a computer to the domain was 10
 - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/243327

Don K

From: Brian Desmond mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain

This is a task you want delegated out to the edges if you ask me. There 
shouldn’t be any sort of escalation involved in something trivial like this 
unless you’ve got a highly automated build process that means that only rare 
cases require a manual join.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How many in your company can join systems to domain

Subject line pretty much says it. We have 600 employees and an IT staff of 
50-ish (including developers) and I swear all 50 can join systems to the 
domain. Certainly 10 of them can and that seems like a lot.

Brought up because these guys drive me crazy by loosely following naming 
standards, not moving to the appropriate OU, and not putting descriptions in AD.
David Lum
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Re: Wannabe a Hacker?

[Roger Wright]

Originally, yes,  But it looked like something list members might like to
try.


Roger Wright
___



On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Roger Wright  wrote:
> > http://preview.tinyurl.com/6tx9k6o
>
>  Is this spam?
>
> -- Ben
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RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain

[Free, Bob]

To each his own but you can do that just fine with ms-DS-MachineAccountQuota 
set to zero.  The value of ms-DS-MachineAccountQuota is actually rather 
irrelevant with properly delegated permissions.

We have a LOT of OUs with tens of thousands of computer objects and zero in the 
default container without all the extras you describe below. There are also 
plenty of admins who can join the domain in the proper location based on 
discrete delegations. Moving and disabling and chastising after the fact seems 
like a lot of extra work to me.

 If they can't do it wrong because you control it with the delegations  and 
they get "I'm sorry Dave but I can't let you do that" they can't very well 
"forget" and do it wrong resulting in the need for intervention :-)

Much of this is going away in our environment with process improvement and 
automated deployments but it has worked fine for > 10 years.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gor...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain

I have done this

Because my requirement *IS* to allow a certain number of delegated regional 
admins (who are NOT Domain Admin members) to join computers, I have not reduced 
the ms-ds-machineaccountquota, as that is too blunt a tool, and can't 
distinguish between ordinary users and my delegated admins... - In fact I have 
*increased* the quota so that those regional administrators can continue to 
function...

However, I *HAVE*...
-  created a brand new top level OU called "Computers to be moved". 
- ACLd that OU to only allow my intended admins to create child objects. 
- Changed the default container for new computer objects in AD to this new OU.

Now, any computer that joins the domain does not get created in the default 
computers container, but in my new OU.

I have issued a very prescriptive process to those regional admins that 
instructs them in no uncertain terms that when joining computers to our domain 
they must pre-create the computer account in their specific OU before joining 
the machine. Obviously, most of the time they forget to do this (don't we all?) 
and just do it the regular way, such that the computer account does end up in 
that "computers to be moved" OU... - (which is also fine, just so long as they 
then remember to immediately go into ADUC & move the object to the correct OU, 
which they've also been instructed to do), So by way of "encouraging" them to 
change their habits, I run the following powershell script as a scheduled task 
every 1 hour, on the hour, which disables any machine accounts that happen to 
be there! - it could just as easily delete those computer accounts... :-) - 
Feel free to take this script and do with it as you will... - but I'd 
appreciate getting back any improvements!


# Script to automatically disable any computer accounts found to exist in the 
Computers container in AD # Version: 1.0 # Date: 18-01-2012 # Author Paul 
Gordon 
##
#FUNCTION DECLARATIONS  
 #
##
function MyLog { # Log events to screen and/or file 
param ([string]$msg, [int]$flag, [int]$target) 
# $flag = Log event type (INFO, WARNING, etc), $target = log destination 
(0=none, 1=screen, 2=file 3=both)
if ($target -gt 1) {$fileoutput=$true}
if ($target -eq 1 -OR $target -eq 3) {$screenoutput=$true}
$date = get-date -format "dd/MM/ HH:mm:ss" 
if ($flag -eq 0) { 
if ($fileoutput) {Write-Output "$date  INFO: $msg" | Out-File $LogFile 
-append} #write to file if target flag=2 or 3
if ($screenoutput) {write-host "$date  INFO: $msg"} #write to screen if 
target flag=1 or 3
} elseif ($flag -eq 1) { 
   if ($fileoutput) {Write-Output "$date  WARNING: $msg" | Out-File 
$LogFile -append} #write to file if target flag=2 or 3
   if ($screenoutput) {write-host "$date  WARNING: $msg"} #write to screen 
if target flag=1 or 3
} elseif ($flag -eq 2) { 
if ($fileoutput) {Write-Output "$date  ERROR: $msg" | Out-File $LogFile 
-append} #write to file if target flag=2 or 3 
if ($screenoutput) {write-host "$date  ERROR: $msg"} #write to screen 
if target flag=1 or 3
} elseif ($flag -eq 3) { 
if ($fileoutput) {Write-Output "$date  DEBUG: $msg" | Out-File $LogFile 
-append} #write to file if target flag=2 or 3 
if ($screenoutput) {write-host "$date  DEBUG: $msg"} #write to screen 
if target flag=1 or 3
}
}
##
# MAIN SCRIPT BODY  
 #
##
# Import the required AD powershell module Impo

RE: Wannabe a Hacker?

[Daniel Chenault]

No, this is spam http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~ddgarcia/gifs/spam.gif

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com



-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wannabe a Hacker?

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Roger Wright  wrote:
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/6tx9k6o

  Is this spam?

-- Ben

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RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain

[David Lum]

Follow-on: What’s the best way to get notified when a machine is joined to the 
domain? Isn’t there an EventID that can be monitored on DC’s?

Dave

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How many in your company can join systems to domain

Jumping in late on this - maybe totally off base - but I thought the default 
limit for any authenticated user to join a computer to the domain was 10
 - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/243327

Don K

From: Brian Desmond mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain

This is a task you want delegated out to the edges if you ask me. There 
shouldn’t be any sort of escalation involved in something trivial like this 
unless you’ve got a highly automated build process that means that only rare 
cases require a manual join.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

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From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How many in your company can join systems to domain

Subject line pretty much says it. We have 600 employees and an IT staff of 
50-ish (including developers) and I swear all 50 can join systems to the 
domain. Certainly 10 of them can and that seems like a lot.

Brought up because these guys drive me crazy by loosely following naming 
standards, not moving to the appropriate OU, and not putting descriptions in AD.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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Re: Wannabe a Hacker?

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Roger Wright  wrote:
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/6tx9k6o

  Is this spam?

-- Ben

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Re: Code crackers break 923-bit encryption record

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:55 AM, David Lum  wrote:
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57457470-83/code-crackers-break-923-bit-encryption-record/?tag=txt;title

  Article has little real info and is factually incorrect on important
aspects.  Press release from Fujitsu is somewhat better:

http://www.fujitsu.com/global/news/pr/archives/month/2012/20120618-01.html

  Fujitsu didn't use pairing-based crypto to break something else,
they *attacked PBC* using new methods.  I'm not familiar with PBC so I
don't know if it is actually being used as a "next generation"
solution as Fujitsu asserts, or if it was more like a research
project.  They also don't appear to publish any details on how the
attack worked.  Some attacks are more easily mitigated then others, so
this could mean anything from "PBC is completely useless" to "don't do
this stupid thing to begin with, and you'll be fine".

  Crypto is an especially difficult subject for the tech press to
report on, as it's fiendishly complicated by design, and bad analysis
tends to be just as incomprehensible as good analysis.

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Re: Windows version - is it legal

[Eric Wittenberg]

Just run systeminfo at a command prompt.

Eric Wittenberg


On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Daniel Chenault <
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com> wrote:

> Properties on Computer shows 2007 as the version, or the copyright date?
>
> Daniel Chenault
> dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows version - is it legal
>
> Hi
> So why does it report 2007 ?
> Seems odd
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: 21 June 2012 09:27
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Windows version - is it legal
>
> It will be 2008 Standard
> --Original Message--
> From: Nigel Parker
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Windows version - is it legal
> Sent: 21 Jun 2012 09:22
>
> I had been to a customers and they have what reports to be Windows server
> 2007 standard
>
> As googling for the version failed
>
> Is this a real version of windows, and could anyone give me or point me as
> to where I can find more information's about the version It does show the
> license with an OEM code
>
>  - oem -  - -
> Thanks
>
> Nigel Parker
> Systems Engineer
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Re: How many in your company can join systems to domain

[Don Kuhlman]

Nevermind my last post - I'm catching up on emails in reverse order...



 From: Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues  
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: How many in your company can join systems to domain
 

I haven't had to deal with this in a long time but IIRC anyone who is in Domain 
Users can join up to 10 computers to your domain.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/243327


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com
From: David Lum 
Reply-To: NT Issues 
Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:19 AM
To: NT Issues 
Subject: How many in your company can join systems to domain


 
Subject line pretty much says it. We have 600 employees and an IT staff of 
50-ish (including developers) and I swear all 50 can join systems to the 
domain. Certainly 10 of them can and that seems like a lot.
 
Brought up because these guys drive me crazy by loosely following naming 
standards, not moving to the appropriate OU, and not putting descriptions in 
AD. 
David Lum
Systems Engineer //NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229//Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
 
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Re: How many in your company can join systems to domain

[Don Kuhlman]

Jumping in late on this - maybe totally off base - but I thought the default 
limit for any authenticated user to join a computer to the domain was 10 
 - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/243327

Don K


 From: Brian Desmond 
To: NT System Admin Issues  
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain
 

 
This is a task you want delegated out to the edges if you ask me. There 
shouldn’t be any sort of escalation involved in something trivial like this 
unless you’ve got a highly automated build process that means that only rare 
cases require a manual join. 
 
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com
 
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From:David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How many in your company can join systems to domain
 
Subject line pretty much says it. We have 600 employees and an IT staff of 
50-ish (including developers) and I swear all 50 can join systems to the 
domain. Certainly 10 of them can and that seems like a lot.
 
Brought up because these guys drive me crazy by loosely following naming 
standards, not moving to the appropriate OU, and not putting descriptions in 
AD. 
David Lum
Systems Engineer //NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229//Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
 
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RE: Windows version - is it legal

[Daniel Chenault]

Properties on Computer shows 2007 as the version, or the copyright date?

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com



-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows version - is it legal

Hi
So why does it report 2007 ?
Seems odd

-Original Message-
From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 21 June 2012 09:27
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows version - is it legal

It will be 2008 Standard
--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows version - is it legal
Sent: 21 Jun 2012 09:22

I had been to a customers and they have what reports to be Windows server 2007 
standard

As googling for the version failed 

Is this a real version of windows, and could anyone give me or point me as to 
where I can find more information's about the version It does show the license 
with an OEM code 

 - oem -  - -
Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
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Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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RE: InfoSec compliance

[Steven M. Caesare]

Computer use and security policies require annual refresher courses
(CBT) and electronic signature (via badge # and password) or else your
account is disabled.
 
-sc
 
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: InfoSec compliance
 
Physical signature at time of hire.
Outlook voting response every year following.

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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM, David Lum  wrote:
Assuming you guys have employees confirm they've read and understand the
computer use policies, how do you guys deliver and track this so later
you can say "look here's our confirmation that you said you did read and
understand it"?
 
E-mail?
Web survery / test?
Paper?
Other?
David Lum 
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RE: Windows version - is it legal (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Kent, Larry J CTR USARMY 93 SIG BDE (US)]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Try typing 'winver' at the command prompt or the Run window and see what you 
get

-Original Message-
From: Spencer Read [mailto:s93n...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows version - is it legal

My 2008 server reports like this

Windows Server (r) Standard
Copyright (c) 2007 Microsoft Corporation

It doesn't actually say 2008 anywhere in the System Properties

...Spence

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: 21 June 2012 09:23
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows version - is it legal

I had been to a customers and they have what reports to be Windows server
2007 standard

As googling for the version failed 

Is this a real version of windows, and could anyone give me or point me as to 
where I can find more information's about the version It does show the license 
with an OEM code 

 - oem -  - -
Thanks 

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Re: InfoSec compliance

[Kevin Lundy]

I meant the "SharePoint app so your acknologement was tied to your user
logon".

Can you explain that app and what you are doing with it?  I'm intrigued.

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:

> We gained a US government contract so we had to add specific instructions
> required for handling certain accounts data to it per the contract.
>
> Steven Peck
> http://www.blkmtn.org
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>
>> Can you explain this update?
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
>>
>>> HR paper work at time of hire.  The one change they did an update on,
>>> they did a SharePoint app so your acknologement was tied to your user logon.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:57 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>>>
 Assuming you guys have employees confirm they’ve read and understand
 the computer use policies, how do you guys deliver and track this so later
 you can say “look here’s our confirmation that you said you did read and
 understand it”?

 ** **

 E-mail?

 Web survery / test?

 Paper?

 Other?

 *David Lum*
 Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

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Re: Windows version - is it legal

[Rankin, James R]

It will be the release date

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: "Nigel Parker" 
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:02:18 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Windows version - is it 
legal

Hi 
So why does it report 2007 ?
Seems odd

-Original Message-
From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 21 June 2012 09:27
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows version - is it legal

It will be 2008 Standard
--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows version - is it legal
Sent: 21 Jun 2012 09:22

I had been to a customers and they have what reports to be Windows
server 2007 standard

As googling for the version failed 

Is this a real version of windows, and could anyone give me or point me
as to where I can find more information's about the version It does show
the license with an OEM code 

 - oem -  - -
Thanks 

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RE: Windows version - is it legal

[Nigel Parker]

Ok 
Thanks 

I wonder why this was 

I was thinking it may have been a test version from technet 
Because I remember a windows xp server that was later dropped 

Thanks 
Nigel 

-Original Message-
From: Spencer Read [mailto:s93n...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 21 June 2012 09:30
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows version - is it legal

My 2008 server reports like this

Windows Server (r) Standard
Copyright (c) 2007 Microsoft Corporation

It doesn't actually say 2008 anywhere in the System Properties

...Spence

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: 21 June 2012 09:23
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows version - is it legal

I had been to a customers and they have what reports to be Windows
server
2007 standard

As googling for the version failed 

Is this a real version of windows, and could anyone give me or point me
as to where I can find more information's about the version It does show
the license with an OEM code 

 - oem -  - -
Thanks 

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RE: Windows version - is it legal

[Nigel Parker]

Hi 
So why does it report 2007 ?
Seems odd

-Original Message-
From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 21 June 2012 09:27
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows version - is it legal

It will be 2008 Standard
--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows version - is it legal
Sent: 21 Jun 2012 09:22

I had been to a customers and they have what reports to be Windows
server 2007 standard

As googling for the version failed 

Is this a real version of windows, and could anyone give me or point me
as to where I can find more information's about the version It does show
the license with an OEM code 

 - oem -  - -
Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
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RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain

[Paul Gordon]

I have done this

Because my requirement *IS* to allow a certain number of delegated regional 
admins (who are NOT Domain Admin members) to join computers, I have not reduced 
the ms-ds-machineaccountquota, as that is too blunt a tool, and can't 
distinguish between ordinary users and my delegated admins... - In fact I have 
*increased* the quota so that those regional administrators can continue to 
function...

However, I *HAVE*...
-  created a brand new top level OU called "Computers to be moved". 
- ACLd that OU to only allow my intended admins to create child objects. 
- Changed the default container for new computer objects in AD to this new OU.

Now, any computer that joins the domain does not get created in the default 
computers container, but in my new OU.

I have issued a very prescriptive process to those regional admins that 
instructs them in no uncertain terms that when joining computers to our domain 
they must pre-create the computer account in their specific OU before joining 
the machine. Obviously, most of the time they forget to do this (don't we all?) 
and just do it the regular way, such that the computer account does end up in 
that "computers to be moved" OU... - (which is also fine, just so long as they 
then remember to immediately go into ADUC & move the object to the correct OU, 
which they've also been instructed to do), So by way of "encouraging" them to 
change their habits, I run the following powershell script as a scheduled task 
every 1 hour, on the hour, which disables any machine accounts that happen to 
be there! - it could just as easily delete those computer accounts... :-) - 
Feel free to take this script and do with it as you will... - but I'd 
appreciate getting back any improvements!


# Script to automatically disable any computer accounts found to exist in the 
Computers container in AD
# Version: 1.0
# Date: 18-01-2012
# Author Paul Gordon
##
#FUNCTION DECLARATIONS  
 #
##
function MyLog { # Log events to screen and/or file 
param ([string]$msg, [int]$flag, [int]$target) 
# $flag = Log event type (INFO, WARNING, etc), $target = log destination 
(0=none, 1=screen, 2=file 3=both)
if ($target -gt 1) {$fileoutput=$true}
if ($target -eq 1 -OR $target -eq 3) {$screenoutput=$true}
$date = get-date -format "dd/MM/ HH:mm:ss" 
if ($flag -eq 0) { 
if ($fileoutput) {Write-Output "$date  INFO: $msg" | Out-File $LogFile 
-append} #write to file if target flag=2 or 3
if ($screenoutput) {write-host "$date  INFO: $msg"} #write to screen if 
target flag=1 or 3
} elseif ($flag -eq 1) { 
   if ($fileoutput) {Write-Output "$date  WARNING: $msg" | Out-File 
$LogFile -append} #write to file if target flag=2 or 3
   if ($screenoutput) {write-host "$date  WARNING: $msg"} #write to screen 
if target flag=1 or 3
} elseif ($flag -eq 2) { 
if ($fileoutput) {Write-Output "$date  ERROR: $msg" | Out-File $LogFile 
-append} #write to file if target flag=2 or 3 
if ($screenoutput) {write-host "$date  ERROR: $msg"} #write to screen 
if target flag=1 or 3
} elseif ($flag -eq 3) { 
if ($fileoutput) {Write-Output "$date  DEBUG: $msg" | Out-File $LogFile 
-append} #write to file if target flag=2 or 3 
if ($screenoutput) {write-host "$date  DEBUG: $msg"} #write to screen 
if target flag=1 or 3
} 
}
##
# MAIN SCRIPT BODY  
 #
##
# Import the required AD powershell module
Import-Module ActiveDirectory
# Set the path of the computers container to be inspected
#$containerpath="CN=Computers,DC=contoso,DC=com" - OLD VERSION USING DEFAULT 
COMPUTERS CONTAINER ###
$containerpath="OU=Computers-to-be-moved, DC=contoso,DC=com"  # NEW PATH
# Enumerate any computer account objects found there
$computers=get-adcomputer -filter {enabled -eq $true} -searchbase $containerpath
$LogFile = ‘C:\windows\logs\disabledefaultcomputers.log’
MyLog 
""
 0 3
MyLog "** Beginning disable of any computer objects found in the default 
computers container **" 0 3
if ($computers -ne $null)
{
$computercount=$computers.count
$computers|Set-ADComputer -enabled:$false
MyLog "Disabled $computercount computer objects in the specified 
computers container." 0 3
}
else 
{
MyLog "The specified computers container currently has no enabled 
computer objects within." 0 3
}


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 20 June 2012 

RE: Windows version - is it legal

[Spencer Read]

My 2008 server reports like this

Windows Server (r) Standard
Copyright (c) 2007 Microsoft Corporation

It doesn't actually say 2008 anywhere in the System Properties

...Spence

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] 
Sent: 21 June 2012 09:23
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows version - is it legal

I had been to a customers and they have what reports to be Windows server
2007 standard

As googling for the version failed 

Is this a real version of windows, and could anyone give me or point me as
to where I can find more information's about the version It does show the
license with an OEM code 

 - oem -  - -
Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
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Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
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Re: Windows version - is it legal

[Rankin, James R]

It will be 2008 Standard
--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows version - is it legal
Sent: 21 Jun 2012 09:22

I had been to a customers and they have what reports to be 
Windows server 2007 standard

As googling for the version failed 

Is this a real version of windows, and could anyone give me or point me
as to where I can find more information's about the version 
It does show the license with an OEM code 

 - oem -  - -
Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
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Windows version - is it legal

[Nigel Parker]

I had been to a customers and they have what reports to be 
Windows server 2007 standard

As googling for the version failed 

Is this a real version of windows, and could anyone give me or point me
as to where I can find more information's about the version 
It does show the license with an OEM code 

 - oem -  - -
Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
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