Re: Semi OT: Cisco versus Checkpoint Juniper

2013-03-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sophos has done really well with their acquisition of Astaro, and their
 looking to take on the mid-market with their pricing and feature bundles.

  They've borked themselves when it comes to selling software, though.
 We were planning on switching to Sophos for traditional anti-virus,
but then they restructured their product offerings.  Now you can only
buy something if you want to buy a bunch of other somethings, and they
can't tell you what those somethings do, or why they're any good, and
half the questions get answered with, Well, no, our traditional
software can't do that, but this virtual appliance we sell does.  But
their virtual appliances aren't supported under anything but VMware.

  After weeks of trying desperately to buy something from them, we
gave up and are going with Trend.

-- Ben

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Re: First Powershell script (Sent Securely)

2013-03-26 Thread christopher_bodnar
christopher_bod...@glic.com has created a secure e-mail message for you at:

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2. You will be prompted to create a password to protect your account.
3. Access your Inbox to view your message.


If you are unable to open the link, please make sure that your firewall or your 
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Re: First Powershell script (Sent Securely)

2013-03-26 Thread Jonathan Link
Thanks, but no.


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Re: Server 2012 Remote Desktop Services mailing list or forum?

2013-03-26 Thread James Rankin
Don't know whether the Thin List may be of help (t...@freelists.org).
They're thin client and SBC focused (obviously) but there tends to be a
heavy Citrix slant on there


On 26 March 2013 15:52, Ken Cornetet ken.corne...@kimball.com wrote:

 Anyone know of a good mailing list or forum for Remote Desktop Services on
 2012?

 ** **

 I’m looking at replacing our aging Citrix farm with Server 2012 RDS, so
 I’ve built a lab to play with. The new RDS is impressive, at least in
 theory – you manage everything from one MMC on one computer. However, the
 documentation is distressingly sparse. It seems to consist mostly  of “Use
 windows 8 clients and RDP 8 and things just work magically.” 

 ** **

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RE: Semi OT: Cisco versus Checkpoint Juniper

2013-03-26 Thread Richard McClary
Interesting, thanks!

As for Juniper, might you have any opinions on the Juniper SRX line (uses 
JunOS) vs the SSG line (uses ScreenOS)?  I know the SRX has about 4 times the 
throughput of the SSG line.

Thanks again...
--
richard

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Semi OT: Cisco versus Checkpoint  Juniper

At the low to mid-range, Juniper (with their SSG line) is more than 
price/feature competitive with CheckPoint, et al.  Things get dicier when you 
get up into the multi Gbit range, but for the scope of what was requested, they 
are a good fit.

Juniper messed up Netscreen from an organizational standpoint.  That's why some 
of them left (at the time of the acquisition) and formed Fortinet.

PA is more feature rich than the others, but the pricing is not for the faint 
of heart, especially at the lower-end of the scale.

Fortinet has a really good mix of feature and pricing, but I'm not happy with 
what they did at the low end with their last OS release -- allegedly in the 
name of performance/stability.  (Mind you, the features they took out of v5 all 
work with version 4 of their OS)

Sophos has done really well with their acquisition of Astaro, and their looking 
to take on the mid-market with their pricing and feature bundles.

Cisco strength, IMO, remains in core switch networking.  If they had to sell 
the ASAs without the benefit of the Catalyst family as a tie-in, they'd have 
given up that business long ago.  Same for their load-balancing prowess.   
Neither their pricing nor their feature set are appealing in areas outside of 
their core.

CheckPoint licensing has still not been simplified to the degree that I would 
like, and their strengths are more suited to large enterprises than SMB or the 
mid-market space.   Not a bad product by any stretch of the imagination, but 
you can get more for your money elsewhere.

That's just my view of the landscape...






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On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Patrick Salmon 
psal...@gmail.commailto:psal...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes. YMMV but the last client I worked with who looked hard at the very 
compelling PA story changed their mind after the sticker shock hit.

Oh and ASB, you quite sure about that? This came out last month at the MWC in 
Barcelona. 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/26/us-juniper-review-idUSBRE91P0S220130226?feedType=RSSfeedName=technologyNewsutm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=twitterdlvrit=56505


On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Kurt Buff 
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't priced the PA stuff, but I had somehow picked up the idea that they 
were less expensive than Cisco.

Am I wrong about that?

I hope not, because everything I've heard about their products is tantalizing...

Kurt

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
I would have mentioned the PA devices, but Pierre did indicate some price 
sensitivity... :)






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On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Kurt Buff 
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
And I'm quite anxious to lay my hands upon a Palo Alto device and see what it 
can do.

EZ can probably talk your ear off about that...

Kurt

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Pierre,

I'm not that fond of Cisco in the UTM space...

I would definitely select Juniper over Cisco, and Juniper will be better priced 
than CheckPoint.

Are you able to get Sophos UTM devices?  They have a very robust UTM line, and 
the pricing is better than many.

There's also Fortinet, although I'm not happy about what they've done with v5 
in taking away some of the features from the lower-end of the product line.

Regards,







ASB
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Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations  Information Security) for the 
SMB market...




On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Pierre-Marie Camilleri 
pmcamill...@laferla.com.mtmailto:pmcamill...@laferla.com.mt wrote:
Hi all

Thought of posting this here in order to obtain some feedback. I am planning to 
replace our old firewall and have been looking at both Checkpoint and Juniper 
UTM appliances. Prices aren't cheap and was wondering how Cisco compares with 
these products (pricewise and features).
What we need is a UTM appliance offering Firewall, IPS, VPN  and Web Filtering. 
Does Cisco sell such an appliance and what are your experiences (good/bad)  of 
using Cisco for your network security.

TIA
Pierre



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Re: Server 2012 Remote Desktop Services mailing list or forum?

2013-03-26 Thread Chipshead
Try http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverTS 

- Original Message -
From: Ken Cornetet ken.corne...@kimball.com 
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:52:47 AM 
Subject: Server 2012 Remote Desktop Services mailing list or forum? 




Anyone know of a good mailing list or forum for Remote Desktop Services on 
2012? 

  

I’m looking at replacing our aging Citrix farm with Server 2012 RDS, so I’ve 
built a lab to play with. The new RDS is impressive, at least in theory – you 
manage everything from one MMC on one computer. However, the documentation is 
distressingly sparse. It seems to consist mostly  of “Use windows 8 clients and 
RDP 8 and things just work magically.” 

  

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Re: First Powershell script

2013-03-26 Thread Richard Stovall
If all the VMs are in a separate OU, you could do an AD search with your VM
OU as the root to get the list of machines to backup.

There are lots of variations on this theme, of course, but this is really
easy to manage and automatically captures new VMs for backup as they are
created if placed in the correct OU.


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Christopher Bodnar 
christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote:

 Sorry about that. Hit send secure without realizing it.  This was my
 response:


 Instead of using multiple variables for the VMs I'd use one:

 $VMnames = SERVER1,SERVER2,SERVER3
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RE: Manage JAVA updates

2013-03-26 Thread Sam Cayze
Easy.  Bookmark this link:

http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

 

 

From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Manage JAVA updates

 

Sometimes you have to dig around a bit to find the msi. Its not an exact
science IIRC

Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY

  _  

From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov 

Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 21:00:52 +

To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Subject: RE: Manage JAVA updates

 

Hmm, followed those directions, but there's nothing in the folder under
Appdata.

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 1:43 PM
To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Manage JAVA updates

 

http://www.java.com/en/download/help/msi_install.xml

 

 

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote:

Where do you get the .msi?  I didn't see that option on the website.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:18 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Manage JAVA updates

 

turn off that annoying prompt to install the Ask toolbar

 

First things first. 

Get the offline MSI download meant for corporate installs.

Then you can use anything your heart delights that can push MSI's.  GPO,
scripts, or any other of the hundreds of patching options.

Personally using ManageEngine myself, and really liking it.  The price point
was great. 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Manage JAVA updates

 

Anyone have any suggestions for managing JAVA updates in a corporate
environment?  At my last job we used the kbox as it was part of the patch
stream, but the product I use  now does not include JAVA as part of the
stream.  I'd like to be able to control when updates are performed, do to it
silently, and to turn off that annoying prompt to install the Ask toolbar.

 

Thanks,

Tom

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RE: Manage JAVA updates

2013-03-26 Thread Sam Cayze
Oops.  Wrong link.  I see the correct one was posted.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Manage JAVA updates

 

Easy.  Bookmark this link:

http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

 

 

From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Manage JAVA updates

 

Sometimes you have to dig around a bit to find the msi. Its not an exact
science IIRC

Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY

  _  

From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov 

Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 21:00:52 +

To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Subject: RE: Manage JAVA updates

 

Hmm, followed those directions, but there's nothing in the folder under
Appdata.

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 1:43 PM
To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Manage JAVA updates

 

http://www.java.com/en/download/help/msi_install.xml

 

 

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote:

Where do you get the .msi?  I didn't see that option on the website.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:18 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Manage JAVA updates

 

turn off that annoying prompt to install the Ask toolbar

 

First things first. 

Get the offline MSI download meant for corporate installs.

Then you can use anything your heart delights that can push MSI's.  GPO,
scripts, or any other of the hundreds of patching options.

Personally using ManageEngine myself, and really liking it.  The price point
was great. 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Manage JAVA updates

 

Anyone have any suggestions for managing JAVA updates in a corporate
environment?  At my last job we used the kbox as it was part of the patch
stream, but the product I use  now does not include JAVA as part of the
stream.  I'd like to be able to control when updates are performed, do to it
silently, and to turn off that annoying prompt to install the Ask toolbar.

 

Thanks,

Tom

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Re: Multithreaded tarbal or tar app for windows

2013-03-26 Thread Jonathan Link
Just how many LoC's are you trying to tarball?


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 I am trying to tar (archive) a lot of files Long list.
 I tried 7-zip but it won't do multi threading for tar only bzip and .7zip.

 Anyone have a good suggestion?

 Regards,

 Justino Garcia

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Re: Multithreaded tarbal or tar app for windows

2013-03-26 Thread justino garcia
Yes faster operations. Trying to tar a 600 gig of data for legal...

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Ken Cornetet ken.corne...@kimball.comwrote:

 What are you trying to accomplish? Faster operation? Tar is going to be
 limited by how fast you can get data in and out. The cpu needed for a
 straight tar operation is miniscule. 

 ** **

 *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:08 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Multithreaded tarbal or tar app for windows

 ** **

 Hi,

 I am trying to tar (archive) a lot of files Long list.

 I tried 7-zip but it won't do multi threading for tar only bzip and .7zip.
 

 ** **

 Anyone have a good suggestion?

 ** **

 Regards,

 ** **

 Justino Garcia

 ** **

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RE: Multithreaded tarbal or tar app for windows

2013-03-26 Thread Ken Cornetet
Multithreaded isn't going to help. Think about what is going on during an 
archive and compress verses an archive only operation.

When you are compressing and archiving, the file data is read in a single 
thread (very low CPU needed), then divided up into chunks. These chunks can 
then be dispatched to multiple threads for compression, then another thread can 
collect the compressed chunks and write then in the correct order to the 
output. Since compression requires lots of CPU, multiple threads can give you 
big gains. Plus, your reader  and writer threads can overlap operation with the 
compression threads effectively eliminating IO time from the equation.

With archiving only, there isn't any work to divvy up for multiple threads to 
operate on. You have to read data, and write it in order. The limit is going to 
be how fast your IO subsystem can read data and write it back out.

From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Multithreaded tarbal or tar app for windows

Yes faster operations. Trying to tar a 600 gig of data for legal...
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Ken Cornetet 
ken.corne...@kimball.commailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com wrote:
What are you trying to accomplish? Faster operation? Tar is going to be limited 
by how fast you can get data in and out. The cpu needed for a straight tar 
operation is miniscule.

From: justino garcia 
[mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Multithreaded tarbal or tar app for windows

Hi,
I am trying to tar (archive) a lot of files Long list.
I tried 7-zip but it won't do multi threading for tar only bzip and .7zip.

Anyone have a good suggestion?

Regards,

Justino Garcia

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Re: Multithreaded tarbal or tar app for windows

2013-03-26 Thread justino garcia
Thanks that clears it all up!!!

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Ken Cornetet ken.corne...@kimball.comwrote:

 Multithreaded isn’t going to help. Think about what is going on during an
 archive and compress verses an archive only operation.

 ** **

 When you are compressing and archiving, the file data is read in a single
 thread (very low CPU needed), then divided up into chunks. These chunks can
 then be dispatched to multiple threads for compression, then another thread
 can collect the compressed chunks and write then in the correct order to
 the output. Since compression requires lots of CPU, multiple threads can
 give you big gains. Plus, your reader  and writer threads can overlap
 operation with the compression threads effectively eliminating IO time from
 the equation.  

 ** **

 With archiving only, there isn’t any work to divvy up for multiple threads
 to operate on. You have to read data, and write it in order. The limit is
 going to be how fast your IO subsystem can read data and write it back out.
 

 ** **

 *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:27 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Multithreaded tarbal or tar app for windows

 ** **

 Yes faster operations. Trying to tar a 600 gig of data for legal...

 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Ken Cornetet ken.corne...@kimball.com
 wrote:

 What are you trying to accomplish? Faster operation? Tar is going to be
 limited by how fast you can get data in and out. The cpu needed for a
 straight tar operation is miniscule. 

  

 *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:08 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Multithreaded tarbal or tar app for windows

  

 Hi,

 I am trying to tar (archive) a lot of files Long list.

 I tried 7-zip but it won't do multi threading for tar only bzip and .7zip.
 

  

 Anyone have a good suggestion?

  

 Regards,

  

 Justino Garcia

  

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Re: Semi OT: Cisco versus Checkpoint Juniper

2013-03-26 Thread Andrew S. Baker
The SRX line is Juniper's enterprise line.  The SSG is based on their
Netscreen acquisition many moons ago.

The cost difference between those two platforms is not insignificant.   My
personal experience is with the SSG family, and it will be the one that I
would expect to be more applicable to the original post.

For the money of the SRX platform, I would go with one of the other
vendors...

Compare the Fortigate 60C, for example, with the Juniper SRX210

http://www.fortinet.com/products/fortigate/60C.html (look at the specs tab)
http://www.juniper.net/as/en/products-services/security/srx-series/srx210/#specs

Similar pricing for the base models, but the Fortigate has a bit more
functionality at that price point, IMO.

Regards,







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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org
 wrote:

 Interesting, thanks!

 ** **

 As for Juniper, might you have any opinions on the Juniper SRX line (uses
 JunOS) vs the SSG line (uses ScreenOS)?  I know the SRX has about 4 times
 the throughput of the SSG line.

 ** **

 Thanks again…

 --

 richard

 ** **

 *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:22 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Semi OT: Cisco versus Checkpoint  Juniper

 ** **

 At the low to mid-range, Juniper (with their SSG line) is more than
 price/feature competitive with CheckPoint, et al.  Things get dicier when
 you get up into the multi Gbit range, but for the scope of what was
 requested, they are a good fit.

 ** **

 Juniper messed up Netscreen from an organizational standpoint.  That's why
 some of them left (at the time of the acquisition) and formed Fortinet.***
 *

 ** **

 PA is more feature rich than the others, but the pricing is not for the
 faint of heart, especially at the lower-end of the scale.

 ** **

 Fortinet has a really good mix of feature and pricing, but I'm not happy
 with what they did at the low end with their last OS release -- allegedly
 in the name of performance/stability.  (Mind you, the features they took
 out of v5 all work with version 4 of their OS)

 ** **

 Sophos has done really well with their acquisition of Astaro, and their
 looking to take on the mid-market with their pricing and feature bundles.*
 ***

 ** **

 Cisco strength, IMO, remains in core switch networking.  If they had to
 sell the ASAs without the benefit of the Catalyst family as a tie-in,
 they'd have given up that business long ago.  Same for their load-balancing
 prowess.   Neither their pricing nor their feature set are appealing in
 areas outside of their core.

 ** **

 CheckPoint licensing has still not been simplified to the degree that I
 would like, and their strengths are more suited to large enterprises than
 SMB or the mid-market space.   Not a bad product by any stretch of the
 imagination, but you can get more for your money elsewhere.

 ** **

 That's just my view of the landscape...


 

  

  

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 for the SMB market…*

  

 ** **

 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Patrick Salmon psal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Yes. YMMV but the last client I worked with who looked hard at the very
 compelling PA story changed their mind after the sticker shock hit.

 ** **

 Oh and ASB, you quite sure about that? This came out last month at the MWC
 in Barcelona.
 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/26/us-juniper-review-idUSBRE91P0S220130226?feedType=RSSfeedName=technologyNewsutm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=twitterdlvrit=56505
 

 ** **

 ** **

 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:**
 **

 I haven't priced the PA stuff, but I had somehow picked up the idea that
 they were less expensive than Cisco.

 Am I wrong about that?

 I hope not, because everything I've heard about their products is
 tantalizing...

 Kurt

 ** **

 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I would have mentioned the PA devices, but Pierre did indicate some price
 sensitivity... :)


 

  

  

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 **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker*
 **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations  Information Security)
 for the SMB market…*

  

 ** **

 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:***
 *

 And I'm quite anxious to lay my hands upon a Palo Alto device and see what
 it can do.

 EZ can probably talk your ear off about that...

 Kurt

 ** **

 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Pierre,

 ** **

 I'm not that fond of Cisco in the UTM space...

 ** 

RE: Discount for Technet Plus?

2013-03-26 Thread Jon Harris

If you are a Microsoft Partner they have some discounts but I don't know if it 
is for TechNet+ or just TechNet. Jon
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Subject: Discount for Technet Plus?
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:51:25 +









Does anyone know if there are any currently any discounts available for Technet 
Plus? If the past Microsoft has offered discounts from time to time, but now 
that I’m ready to purchase a subscription I don’t see any available.
 
Thanks,
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