RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
-Original Message- From: bounce-9604068-8267...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9604068-8267...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff Sent: 25 April 2013 22:49 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION See response below... I was also taught to delete everything not immediately relevant to your reply. Ah well. I'm a fan of bottom posting - back in the NNTP days. Using Outlook makes it very hard :( ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Virtualization
Looking to virtualize 7 windows 2008 servers. A couple of questions: How do I size a Virtualized server and san? Which virtual server software is best? Hyper V, VMware, citrix Any guidance in this area is appreciated... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Virtualization
Hyper-V will be your best bet if you already have it bundled in your licensing. Otherwise, if you choose to pay for a virt app, it might make sense to throw the VMs into Azure. HP has a sizing tool: http://www.virtualizationadmin.com/blogs/conger/news/download-sizing-and-configuration-tool-for-hyper-v-320.html Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro From: itli...@imcu.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Looking to virtualize 7 windows 2008 servers. A couple of questions: How do I size a Virtualized server and san? Which virtual server software is best? Hyper V, VMware, citrix Any guidance in this area is appreciated… ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Richard Sobey r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: RS I was also taught to delete everything not immediately relevant to your reply. RS RS Ah well. I'm a fan of bottom posting - back in the NNTP days. Using Outlook RS makes it very hard :( I've never really understood that objection. People talk about the position the cursor starts in as if it's some insurmountable barrier. Some composers start the cursor at the top of the edit buffer. Others start it at the bottom. They're otherwise identical. Doesn't seem like a big difference to me. :-) One thing I miss from my Fidonet days is the convention of prefixing people's initials to the quoted text leader (done above manually, for illustration). Made it easier to follow a complicated, nested conversation. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Virtualization
I wouldn't particularly say any hypervisor would be your best bet with this little info to go on For instance XenServer might make sense if you were running XenApp or XenDesktop VMWare is often the choice for production environments given the features it has and the product maturity, but I am sure its competitors are now catching up. However if it's a sandbox environment then one of the cheaper or free alternatives will do fine There are a vast amount of licensing considerations in the mix too... Are you looking to P2V existing servers or create new ones? Are you hosting sessions on these servers (i.e. RDS or Citrix), or are they just app servers? The use you make of the servers will dictate the sizing and performance you require The SAN question is a whole other kettle of fish, and one that has often started some interesting flame wars on this list :-) I think maybe a bit more info would help us guide you a bit better. Cheers, JR On 26 April 2013 12:10, itli...@imcu.com itli...@imcu.com wrote: Looking to virtualize 7 windows 2008 servers. A couple of questions: How do I size a Virtualized server and san? Which virtual server software is best? Hyper V, VMware, citrix Any guidance in this area is appreciated… ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- *James Rankin* Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Virtualization
Looks like I am taking 13 physical Windows 2008/2003 servers and virtualizing them. Also one of the servers has 4 apps they would like to split off into 4 additional servers. Would like to be able to have them all work in a DR state if needed as well. So I will be buying 2 of these physical servers one for production and one for DR. I am looking at the HP tool and I need to get AverageCPU Util % Average Memory Used MB Average Disk IOPS Trans Average Disk Throughput MBps Average Network Throughput MBps Looking at Perfmon I don't see these exact settings. I do see: Processor\% Processor Time Memory\Availabe Mbytes PhysicalDisk\Avg Disk Sec/Read PhysicalDisk\Avg Dis k Sec/Transfer Network Interface\Bytes Total/Sec Am I on the right track? I am looking more at HyperV. But really, I don't have any clue. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Posted At: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:45 AM Posted To: itli...@imcu.com Conversation: Virtualization Subject: Re: Virtualization I wouldn't particularly say any hypervisor would be your best bet with this little info to go on For instance XenServer might make sense if you were running XenApp or XenDesktop VMWare is often the choice for production environments given the features it has and the product maturity, but I am sure its competitors are now catching up. However if it's a sandbox environment then one of the cheaper or free alternatives will do fine There are a vast amount of licensing considerations in the mix too... Are you looking to P2V existing servers or create new ones? Are you hosting sessions on these servers (i.e. RDS or Citrix), or are they just app servers? The use you make of the servers will dictate the sizing and performance you require The SAN question is a whole other kettle of fish, and one that has often started some interesting flame wars on this list :-) I think maybe a bit more info would help us guide you a bit better. Cheers, JR On 26 April 2013 12:10, itli...@imcu.com itli...@imcu.com wrote: Looking to virtualize 7 windows 2008 servers. A couple of questions: How do I size a Virtualized server and san? Which virtual server software is best? Hyper V, VMware, citrix Any guidance in this area is appreciated... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- James Rankin Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Bad idea. -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
I’ll bring the wall for you to beat your head against. -sc From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION WJR, I'm kinda hungry. You bringing popcorn to this one? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
You mean OTHER than to avoid having to migrate again a couple of years when Google decides Wave^H^H^H^H Plus wasn't a good idea? -sc From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world? Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600 Or build our own? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec -- The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone. - Rod Serling; Closing monologue from The Monsters are Due on Maple Street The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
make email easy and more natural to read That's debatable. -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Oh my...that's a lot of work for both the recipient and the sender and definitely not the norm. I guess we're all just doing it wrong. :) I thought it was an email client issue, like you were using Lotus Notes or something. It used to be much easier and much more common, and most clients and listservs didn't make it hard to bottom post - gmail, and many others, now make you go through stupid gyrations to make email easy and more natural to read. But, once your fingers learn the rhythm, it's no big deal, and it's a lot easier for others to read and follow along. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
All together now: Friggin' Lyris. -sc From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@outlook.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION You rang? Pretty sure Lyris kills images, I'll send you some popcorn off-list. - WJR Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:58:08 -0400 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION From: rich...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com WJR, I'm kinda hungry. You bringing popcorn to this one? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Virtualization
Howdy. I was in a very similar situation about a year ago. Virtualized about a dozen Windows servers. Decided to go w/ 3 host servers and an iSCSI SAN from NetApp with 24 drives. Couldn't be happier. During the initial phase, I found Dell's DPACK tool to be very helpful. It is free (unlike my experience w/ VMWare's capacity planner - which I had several resellers offer to run for a fee). You download and run Dell's tool on your servers for several days (or longer if you have monthly spikes in activity) You do have to send the results to Dell, but they will in turn provide a very detailed report (CPU/RAM/LAN/IOPS/Etc.) to get you in the right direction. Good luck! Feel free to hit me up if you have any other questions. From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualization Looks like I am taking 13 physical Windows 2008/2003 servers and virtualizing them. Also one of the servers has 4 apps they would like to split off into 4 additional servers. Would like to be able to have them all work in a DR state if needed as well. So I will be buying 2 of these physical servers one for production and one for DR. I am looking at the HP tool and I need to get AverageCPU Util % Average Memory Used MB Average Disk IOPS Trans Average Disk Throughput MBps Average Network Throughput MBps Looking at Perfmon I don't see these exact settings. I do see: Processor\% Processor Time Memory\Availabe Mbytes PhysicalDisk\Avg Disk Sec/Read PhysicalDisk\Avg Dis k Sec/Transfer Network Interface\Bytes Total/Sec Am I on the right track? I am looking more at HyperV. But really, I don't have any clue. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Posted At: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:45 AM Posted To: itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com Conversation: Virtualization Subject: Re: Virtualization I wouldn't particularly say any hypervisor would be your best bet with this little info to go on For instance XenServer might make sense if you were running XenApp or XenDesktop VMWare is often the choice for production environments given the features it has and the product maturity, but I am sure its competitors are now catching up. However if it's a sandbox environment then one of the cheaper or free alternatives will do fine There are a vast amount of licensing considerations in the mix too... Are you looking to P2V existing servers or create new ones? Are you hosting sessions on these servers (i.e. RDS or Citrix), or are they just app servers? The use you make of the servers will dictate the sizing and performance you require The SAN question is a whole other kettle of fish, and one that has often started some interesting flame wars on this list :-) I think maybe a bit more info would help us guide you a bit better. Cheers, JR On 26 April 2013 12:10, itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com wrote: Looking to virtualize 7 windows 2008 servers. A couple of questions: How do I size a Virtualized server and san? Which virtual server software is best? Hyper V, VMware, citrix Any guidance in this area is appreciated... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- James Rankin Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.ukhttp://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Who are you, and what have you done with WJR?? -sc From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@outlook.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION I've grown more sociable in my old age. - WJR Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:37:12 -0400 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION From: jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com You share your popcorn with anyone? :D On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:17 PM, William Robbins dangerw...@outlook.com wrote: You rang? Pretty sure Lyris kills images, I'll send you some popcorn off-list. - WJR Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:58:08 -0400 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION From: rich...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com WJR, I'm kinda hungry. You bringing popcorn to this one? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
+1 And, really, minus some little inconveniences here and there, it hasn't been all that bad for a free resource that provides a wealth of knowledge sharing and communal bantering. : ) Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE425D.91B84F10] From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION I will not use a google property for something that has a business purpose for me. I'm only one person, but I doubt I'm the only one that feels that way. From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world? Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600 Or build our own? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.commailto:s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec -- The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone. - Rod Serling; Closing monologue from The Monsters are Due on Maple Street The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
indeed -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Posted At: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:43 AM Posted To: itli...@imcu.com Conversation: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Bad idea. -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Virtualization
I have a clustered mobile san based on iphone farm storage with that same pdf. From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:05 AM Subject: RE: Virtualization I have a PDF on my SAN somewhere that addresses this.. I’ll send it with my Linux email client. -sc From:itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Virtualization Looking to virtualize 7 windows 2008 servers. A couple of questions: How do I size a Virtualized server and san? Which virtual server software is best? Hyper V, VMware, citrix Any guidance in this area is appreciated… ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Virtualization
DOH! You went there, ouch! I thought only I had the nerve to do that. Thanks Webster From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualization I have a PDF on my SAN somewhere that addresses this.. I'll send it with my Linux email client. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Virtualization
Tool has been moved to: http://h71019.www7.hp.com/ActiveAnswers/us/en/sizers/unified-sizer-server-virtulization.html Mark From: rodtr...@myitforum.com [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 5:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualization Hyper-V will be your best bet if you already have it bundled in your licensing. Otherwise, if you choose to pay for a virt app, it might make sense to throw the VMs into Azure. HP has a sizing tool: http://www.virtualizationadmin.com/blogs/conger/news/download-sizing-and-configuration-tool-for-hyper-v-320.html Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro From: itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Looking to virtualize 7 windows 2008 servers. A couple of questions: How do I size a Virtualized server and san? Which virtual server software is best? Hyper V, VMware, citrix Any guidance in this area is appreciated… ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Virtualization
That sounds like what these guys did: http://blogs.technet.com/b/privatecloud/archive/2013/02/21/surface-pro-hijinks-video.aspx Install Server 2012 on 4 Surface Pro tablets, enable Hyper-V, create some VMs, and then use Shared-Nothing Live Migration to move them around over a WiFi Hotspot. …Tim From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 6:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualization I have a clustered mobile san based on iphone farm storage with that same pdf. From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:05 AM Subject: RE: Virtualization I have a PDF on my SAN somewhere that addresses this.. I’ll send it with my Linux email client. -sc From: itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Virtualization Looking to virtualize 7 windows 2008 servers. A couple of questions: How do I size a Virtualized server and san? Which virtual server software is best? Hyper V, VMware, citrix Any guidance in this area is appreciated… ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Disk space management software
Windirstat On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.cawrote: Looking for opinions on disk space management software. We’re getting low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using up the space. ** ** Thanks in advance! - Tammy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Or even communal battering... Joe Heaton Enterprise Server Support CA Department of Fish and Wildlife 1807 13th Street, Suite 201 Sacramento, CA 95811 Desk: (916) 323-1284 From: Don Guyer [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 6:08 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION +1 And, really, minus some little inconveniences here and there, it hasn't been all that bad for a free resource that provides a wealth of knowledge sharing and communal bantering. : ) Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION I will not use a google property for something that has a business purpose for me. I'm only one person, but I doubt I'm the only one that feels that way. From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world? Like https://plus.googlecom/communities/105379670851238376600https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600 Or build our own? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.commailto:s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec -- The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone. - Rod Serling; Closing monologue from The Monsters are Due on Maple Street The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
Re: Disk space management software
It's not comprehensive, but treesize pro works quite well. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.cawrote: Looking for opinions on disk space management software. We’re getting low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using up the space. ** ** Thanks in advance! - Tammy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Bad idea. -sc Indeed. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Kurt's paper check might be the smart way. One of the major grocery chains in Cleveland sent their debit card transactions complete with the account number and pin in plain text via wireless from their cash registers. We were grabbing them from the parking lot just sitting in our car. From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.commailto:s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Disk space management software
+1 FOR TREESIZE been using it for years.. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, CISA, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org Work:401-444-9081 This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. [Description: Description: Lifespan] From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Disk space management software It's not comprehensive, but treesize pro works quite well. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.camailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca wrote: Looking for opinions on disk space management software. We're getting low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using up the space. Thanks in advance! - Tammy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Indeed On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Bad idea. -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Virtualization
Is it WebScale? -sc From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualization I have a clustered mobile san based on iphone farm storage with that same pdf. From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:05 AM Subject: RE: Virtualization I have a PDF on my SAN somewhere that addresses this.. I’ll send it with my Linux email client. -sc From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Virtualization Looking to virtualize 7 windows 2008 servers. A couple of questions: How do I size a Virtualized server and san? Which virtual server software is best? Hyper V, VMware, citrix Any guidance in this area is appreciated… ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Kurt's just mad you are on his lawn. -sc From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Get off my lawn. Ha! -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Disk space management software
Definitely tree size. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Disk space management software It's not comprehensive, but treesize pro works quite well. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca wrote: Looking for opinions on disk space management software. We're getting low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using up the space. Thanks in advance! - Tammy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
And, that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Noted. Sometimes warranted, sometimes not so much. That's all I'm gonna say about that... Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE4270.02D97860] From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Or even communal battering... Joe Heaton Enterprise Server Support CA Department of Fish and Wildlife 1807 13th Street, Suite 201 Sacramento, CA 95811 Desk: (916) 323-1284 From: Don Guyer [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 6:08 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION +1 And, really, minus some little inconveniences here and there, it hasn't been all that bad for a free resource that provides a wealth of knowledge sharing and communal bantering. : ) Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE4270.02D97860] From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION I will not use a google property for something that has a business purpose for me. I'm only one person, but I doubt I'm the only one that feels that way. From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world? Like https://plus.googlecom/communities/105379670851238376600https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600 Or build our own? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.commailto:s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec -- The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Ben9K breaks that. -sc -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 11:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION And, that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
You're right, the older I get the more it annoys me... that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age Turn your monitor upside down and this will be easier to read in context -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION And, that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
˙sıɥʇ ǝʞıן ǝdʎʇ noʎ ɟı ʎןuo -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION You're right, the older I get the more it annoys me... that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age Turn your monitor upside down and this will be easier to read in context -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION And, that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
All you top posters, see answer inline. On 26 Apr 2013 at 7:23, Kurt Buff wrote: On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. +1 -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
On 26 Apr 2013 at 14:25, Kennedy, Jim wrote: Kurt's paper check might be the smart way. One of the major grocery chains in Cleveland sent their debit card transactions complete with the account number and pin in plain text via wireless from their cash registers. We were grabbing them from the parking lot just sitting in our car. Jim My wife's brother lives in Cleveland. What grocery chain? If you don't want to answer on list, feel free to answer off-list. Angus -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
What if you only read like that, but not type that way? -sc -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION ˙sıɥʇ ǝʞıן ǝdʎʇ noʎ ɟı ʎןuo -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION You're right, the older I get the more it annoys me... that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age Turn your monitor upside down and this will be easier to read in context -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION And, that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Disk space management software
Just FYI, but there *is* a Portable version of windirstat too ( I use it on client's systems specifically because it doesn't need to be installed YMMV On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com wrote: On 26 Apr 2013 at 14:04, Tammy George wrote: Looking for opinions on disk space management software. We're getting low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using up the space. Thanks in advance! - Tammy I use Spacemonger 1.4, the last free version. Prefer it to WinDirStat as it is a standalone executable which doesn't have to be installed. Old SpaceMonger v1.x http://www.sixty-five.cc/sm/v1x.php Download link is at the bottom of this page: http://www.sixty-five.cc/download/ Grab it while you can, looks like the company has folded. But the software still works great! -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Disk space management software
Treesize too Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:32:45 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Disk space management software Just FYI, but there *is* a Portable version of windirstat too ( I use it on client's systems specifically because it doesn't need to be installed YMMV On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com wrote: On 26 Apr 2013 at 14:04, Tammy George wrote: Looking for opinions on disk space management software. We're getting low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using up the space. Thanks in advance! - Tammy I use Spacemonger 1.4, the last free version. Prefer it to WinDirStat as it is a standalone executable which doesn't have to be installed. Old SpaceMonger v1.x http://www.sixty-five.cc/sm/v1x.php Download link is at the bottom of this page: http://www.sixty-five.cc/download/ Grab it while you can, looks like the company has folded. But the software still works great! -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Disk space management software
Thanks everyone. I'm downloaded Treesize and I like it! Ideally, we'd like to archive all files that haven't been accessed in the past 3 years. Any pointers/tips on how to approach something like that? From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: April-26-13 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk space management software Definitely tree size. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Disk space management software It's not comprehensive, but treesize pro works quite well. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.camailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca wrote: Looking for opinions on disk space management software. We're getting low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using up the space. Thanks in advance! - Tammy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Disk space management software
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com wrote: I use Spacemonger 1.4, the last free version. Prefer it to WinDirStat as it is a standalone executable which doesn't have to be installed. WinDirStat is basically a stand-alone executable. They distribute it as an installer but if you unpack it with 7-Zip it runs just fine. Or just install it once and then copy the binary out. I just have a copy of WinDirStat.EXE in our network miscellaneous utilities folder and run it from there. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Disk space management software
Robocopy Niles Parr Network Administrator Morton Industries LLC np...@mortonind.commailto:np...@mortonind.com Phone: 309-291-0231 Cell: 309-696-5045 From: Tammy George [mailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk space management software Thanks everyone. I'm downloaded Treesize and I like it! Ideally, we'd like to archive all files that haven't been accessed in the past 3 years. Any pointers/tips on how to approach something like that? From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: April-26-13 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk space management software Definitely tree size. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Disk space management software It's not comprehensive, but treesize pro works quite well. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.camailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca wrote: Looking for opinions on disk space management software. We're getting low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using up the space. Thanks in advance! - Tammy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
deaned :-] -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION All you top posters, see answer inline. On 26 Apr 2013 at 7:23, Kurt Buff wrote: On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. +1 -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Apropos age on this thread http://www.chron.com/news/article/Conroe-company-still-using-computers-museums-want-4459714.php Kurt On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: deaned :-] -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION All you top posters, see answer inline. On 26 Apr 2013 at 7:23, Kurt Buff wrote: On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. +1 -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Boom! -sc -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION deaned :-] -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION All you top posters, see answer inline. On 26 Apr 2013 at 7:23, Kurt Buff wrote: On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. +1 -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Wow, a 402. The last mainframe shop I worked in (mid 80s) still used the IBM 402 autocoder emulator for the mainframe series we were using. It was still in use when I left in 1987. Thanks Webster -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Apropos age on this thread http://www.chron.com/news/article/Conroe-company-still-using- computers-museums-want-4459714.php Wow, a 402. The last mainframe shop I worked in (mid 80s) still used the IBM 402 autocoder emulator for the mainframe series we were using. It was still in use when I left in 1987. Thanks Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Virtualization
No, I think he was saying you have a lot of verve... On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: You have nerve, saying that I have nerve. ** ** -sc ** ** *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:32 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualization ** ** DOH! You went there, ouch! I thought only I had the nerve to do that.*** * ** ** Thanks ** ** ** ** Webster ** ** *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.comscaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 8:05 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualization ** ** I have a PDF on my SAN somewhere that addresses this.. I’ll send it with my Linux email client. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Disk space management software
+1, and it has a feature that you can run it to list the files that will be copied to ensure you've got it setup right... On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:41 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote: Robocopy ** ** Niles Parr Network Administrator Morton Industries LLC np...@mortonind.com Phone: 309-291-0231 Cell: 309-696-5045 ** ** *From:* Tammy George [mailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca] *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 12:03 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Disk space management software ** ** Thanks everyone. I’m downloaded Treesize and I like it! ** ** Ideally, we’d like to archive all files that haven’t been accessed in the past 3 years. Any pointers/tips on how to approach something like that?* *** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com korl...@rogers.com] *Sent:* April-26-13 11:57 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Disk space management software ** ** Definitely tree size. ** ** *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:14 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Disk space management software ** ** It's not comprehensive, but treesize pro works quite well. ** ** On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca wrote: Looking for opinions on disk space management software. We’re getting low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using up the space. Thanks in advance! - Tammy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Disk space management software
That describes me too Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY -Original Message- From: Free, Bob r...@pge.com Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:44:59 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Disk space management software Cheap, fast and oft overlooked is du - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896651 From: Tammy George [mailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [dkim-failure] Disk space management software Looking for opinions on disk space management software. We're getting low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using up the space. Thanks in advance! - Tammy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Disk space management software
I do exactly this for a small (55 user) SMB client. I have them map to an O: (for Old!) drive that sits on RAID1 SATA drives, make it read only, and I have a Robocopy job that kicks off every week and moves files older than 1825 days (5 years). On occasion we clean up that O: drive You may find you'll want to exclude some folders, but by and large it works very well for them. From: Tammy George [mailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk space management software Thanks everyone. I'm downloaded Treesize and I like it! Ideally, we'd like to archive all files that haven't been accessed in the past 3 years. Any pointers/tips on how to approach something like that? From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: April-26-13 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk space management software Definitely tree size. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Disk space management software It's not comprehensive, but treesize pro works quite well. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.camailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca wrote: Looking for opinions on disk space management software. We're getting low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using up the space. Thanks in advance! - Tammy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: browser-based MD5/SHA1/SHA-256 checksum
Yeah, it's not ideal for every use, but it's a handy option, especially if you can't download for some reason. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 5:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: browser-based MD5/SHA1/SHA-256 checksum On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: Just came across this site. It's pretty slick. http://md5online.info/ I gotta believe that doing hashing in JavaScript is slower than just downloading a binary utility for the appropriate OS. :-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Disk space management software
Bob,Thanks for the link! Another toy for the USB. Tammy,You might want to use a PowerShell script either by itself or with Robocopy to get those files clipped. Jon From: r...@pge.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Disk space management software Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:44:59 + Cheap, fast and oft overlooked is du - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896651 From: Tammy George [mailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [dkim-failure] Disk space management software Looking for opinions on disk space management software. We’re getting low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using up the space. Thanks in advance! - Tammy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
So did you hand the data over to your bank the police or walk in and tell the manager? I know as an underpaid public employee you would never consider reusing the information. You would not be underpaid if you did. I would think that since this has been posted that a number of students (hackers in training) are out in the parking lots of supermarkets looking for free credit card data. Jon From: kennedy...@elyriaschools.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:25:19 + Kurt’s paper check might be the smart way. One of the major grocery chains in Cleveland sent their debit card transactions complete with the account number and pin in plain text via wireless from their cash registers. We were grabbing them from the parking lot just sitting in our car. From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
IIRC, they already did this to TJ Maxx... On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: So did you hand the data over to your bank the police or walk in and tell the manager? I know as an underpaid public employee you would never consider reusing the information. You would not be underpaid if you did. I would think that since this has been posted that a number of students (hackers in training) are out in the parking lots of supermarkets looking for free credit card data. Jon -- From: kennedy...@elyriaschools.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:25:19 + Kurt’s paper check might be the smart way. One of the major grocery chains in Cleveland sent their debit card transactions complete with the account number and pin in plain text via wireless from their cash registers. We were grabbing them from the parking lot just sitting in our car. *From:* Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:16 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: Need to create a csv through Powershell/Exchange Shell
MBS posted an article that I believe is the follow-up to this thread.
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2013/04/26/reporting-on-primary-and-secondary-smtp-addresses-on-exchange-objects.aspx
Thanks
Webster
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Need to create a csv through Powershell/Exchange Shell
All you need to do is update the LDAP query filter.
You can see what you need to do for that, here:
http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2012/01/17/sending-an-email-to-users-whose-password-is-about-to-expire-a-powershell-rewrite.aspx
From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Need to create a csv through Powershell/Exchange Shell
Michael,
That worked magnificently. Thank you. I would prefer the teach to fish
approach as well, but I really appreciate the help. There's some tweaking that
I'd like to do to it, to filter out disabled accounts, but I'll just play with
it on my own.
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 2:50 PM
To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Need to create a csv through Powershell/Exchange Shell
I GREATLY prefer the teach a man to fish paradigm, but to do this one
properly requires some fairly in-depth knowledge of the AD PowerShell module
and how Exchange stores information in AD. To do it efficiently needs an LDAP
search and using a filter in PowerShell.
So that it can be exported properly, the output needs to be simple objects (not
complex), but not just strings.
Oh, and since it can't be guaranteed that FirstName, LastName are unique, it
also includes the sAMAccountName (unique in any given domain).
So I wrote this one. And will blog it. :P I had the various pieces already
(yay, for code re-use!).
Adjust $secondaryDomain as a parameter, or in the source; as meets your needs.
You can Export-Csv or Export-CliXML to your heart's content. :)
Param(
[string]$secondaryDomain = @TheEssentialExchange.com,
[int]$secondaryDomainLen = $secondaryDomain.Length
)
filter strip-Addresses
{
$proxies = $_.proxyAddresses
$primary =
$secondary =
$object = | Select GivenName, Surname, sAMAccountName,
PrimarySmtp, SecondarySmtp
$object.GivenName = $_.GivenName
$object.SurName= $_.SurName
$object.sAMAccountName = $_.sAMAccountName
foreach( $proxy in $proxies )
{
$len = $proxy.Length
## note: SMTP:.Length == 5
## note: The primary SMTP address has a
CAPITALIZED SMTP: prefix
## all secondary SMTP addresses have a
lowercase smtp: prefix
## note: any interesting secondary proxy
address will be longer than
## SMTP:.Length + $secondaryDomainLen
if( $len -gt 5 )
{
$prefix = $proxy.SubString( 0,
5 )
$temp = $proxy.SubString( 5 )
##strip off smtp:, if present
if( $prefix -ceq SMTP: )
{
$primary = $temp
if(
$secondary.Length -gt 0 )
{
break ## we have both primary and secondary,
## we don't need to look any more
}
}
elseif( $prefix -ceq smtp:
-and $len -gt ( 5 + $secondaryDomainLen ) )
{
if(
$temp.EndsWith( $secondaryDomain ) )
{
$secondary = $temp
if( $primary.Length -gt 0 )
{
break ## we have both primary
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
I thought in that case they had actually hacked the corp office since they were all over the country. Jon Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:55:34 -0400 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION From: jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com IIRC, they already did this to TJ Maxx... On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: So did you hand the data over to your bank the police or walk in and tell the manager? I know as an underpaid public employee you would never consider reusing the information. You would not be underpaid if you did. I would think that since this has been posted that a number of students (hackers in training) are out in the parking lots of supermarkets looking for free credit card data. Jon From: kennedy...@elyriaschools.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:25:19 + Kurt’s paper check might be the smart way. One of the major grocery chains in Cleveland sent their debit card transactions complete with the account number and pin in plain text via wireless from their cash registers. We were grabbing them from the parking lot just sitting in our car. From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body:
Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Are you under the impression that this isn't going on everyday all over the world? This isn't exactly a new idea. -Jeff On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: So did you hand the data over to your bank the police or walk in and tell the manager? I know as an underpaid public employee you would never consider reusing the information. You would not be underpaid if you did. I would think that since this has been posted that a number of students (hackers in training) are out in the parking lots of supermarkets looking for free credit card data. Jon -- From: kennedy...@elyriaschools.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:25:19 + Kurt’s paper check might be the smart way. One of the major grocery chains in Cleveland sent their debit card transactions complete with the account number and pin in plain text via wireless from their cash registers. We were grabbing them from the parking lot just sitting in our car. *From:* Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:16 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
True but first time I have seen anyone actually post that they had indeed done it, at least publicly. I was also kind of curious as to what they did once they had gotten the proof of stupidity. Jon Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:07:33 -0400 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION From: jstew...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Are you under the impression that this isn't going on everyday all over the world? This isn't exactly a new idea. -Jeff On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: So did you hand the data over to your bank the police or walk in and tell the manager? I know as an underpaid public employee you would never consider reusing the information. You would not be underpaid if you did. I would think that since this has been posted that a number of students (hackers in training) are out in the parking lots of supermarkets looking for free credit card data. Jon From: kennedy...@elyriaschools.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:25:19 + Kurt’s paper check might be the smart way. One of the major grocery chains in Cleveland sent their debit card transactions complete with the account number and pin in plain text via wireless from their cash registers. We were grabbing them from the parking lot just sitting in our car. From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage
Re: Disk space management software
That puts me in mind of diruse.exe, which I still use, from the NT4 RK (and perhaps earlier - memory fades...) Kurt On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: Cheap, fast and oft overlooked is du - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896651 From: Tammy George [mailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [dkim-failure] Disk space management software Looking for opinions on disk space management software. We’re getting low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using up the space. Thanks in advance! - Tammy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
