RE: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread James Kerr
I got one from work and was pretty excited until I actually started using
it. Then I sent it back and got a Droid DNA, much better.

Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.
On Feb 16, 2013 8:51 PM, joeu...@chronic.org wrote:

 I have the HTC Trophy - WP 7.5 -- 7.8 on Verizon. Solid, stable,
 Superb.
 Only gripe is that HTC doesn't treat its users as well as Nokia (Nokia
 has many exclusive apps).
 They can take my Trophy - when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand.
 WP8 is pretty good. Some phones seem to have some issues and others
 don't. Wi-Fi connectivity, battery life, etc.
 I think once it gets a patch under it's belt it will be solid. Remind
 you of anything?
 Friends have got a phone with an issue, returned it for another - same
 model -  no more issue. So...

 Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

 ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

   Original Message 
  Subject: RE:_Lumina_822_phone
  From: rodtr...@myitforum.com
  Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 7:47 am
  To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 
  I’m on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead.  In my opinion, after
 testing both, the HTC is a better device.

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RE: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread Michael B. Smith
Not questioning your choice - but what didn't you like about the Lumia?

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone


I got one from work and was pretty excited until I actually started using it. 
Then I sent it back and got a Droid DNA, much better.

Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.
On Feb 16, 2013 8:51 PM, joeu...@chronic.orgmailto:joeu...@chronic.org 
wrote:
I have the HTC Trophy - WP 7.5 -- 7.8 on Verizon. Solid, stable,
Superb.
Only gripe is that HTC doesn't treat its users as well as Nokia (Nokia
has many exclusive apps).
They can take my Trophy - when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand.
WP8 is pretty good. Some phones seem to have some issues and others
don't. Wi-Fi connectivity, battery life, etc.
I think once it gets a patch under it's belt it will be solid. Remind
you of anything?
Friends have got a phone with an issue, returned it for another - same
model -  no more issue. So...

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: RE:_Lumina_822_phone
 From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
 Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 7:47 am
 To: NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


 I'm on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead.  In my opinion, after 
 testing both, the HTC is a better device.

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RE: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread Crawford, Scott
I think that's the very definition if questioning his choice. :)

(still waiting for a lumia on sprint)

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Michael B. Smith
Sent: 4/27/2013 9:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone

Not questioning your choice – but what didn’t you like about the Lumia?

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone


I got one from work and was pretty excited until I actually started using it. 
Then I sent it back and got a Droid DNA, much better.

Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.
On Feb 16, 2013 8:51 PM, joeu...@chronic.orgmailto:joeu...@chronic.org 
wrote:
I have the HTC Trophy - WP 7.5 -- 7.8 on Verizon. Solid, stable,
Superb.
Only gripe is that HTC doesn't treat its users as well as Nokia (Nokia
has many exclusive apps).
They can take my Trophy - when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand.
WP8 is pretty good. Some phones seem to have some issues and others
don't. Wi-Fi connectivity, battery life, etc.
I think once it gets a patch under it's belt it will be solid. Remind
you of anything?
Friends have got a phone with an issue, returned it for another - same
model -  no more issue. So...

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: RE:_Lumina_822_phone
 From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
 Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 7:47 am
 To: NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


 I’m on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead.  In my opinion, after 
 testing both, the HTC is a better device.

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RE: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread Michael B. Smith
Actually, I'm just looking for education. :)

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone

I think that's the very definition if questioning his choice. :)

(still waiting for a lumia on sprint)

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Michael B. Smith
Sent: 4/27/2013 9:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone
Not questioning your choice - but what didn't you like about the Lumia?

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone


I got one from work and was pretty excited until I actually started using it. 
Then I sent it back and got a Droid DNA, much better.

Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.
On Feb 16, 2013 8:51 PM, joeu...@chronic.orgmailto:joeu...@chronic.org 
wrote:
I have the HTC Trophy - WP 7.5 -- 7.8 on Verizon. Solid, stable,
Superb.
Only gripe is that HTC doesn't treat its users as well as Nokia (Nokia
has many exclusive apps).
They can take my Trophy - when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand.
WP8 is pretty good. Some phones seem to have some issues and others
don't. Wi-Fi connectivity, battery life, etc.
I think once it gets a patch under it's belt it will be solid. Remind
you of anything?
Friends have got a phone with an issue, returned it for another - same
model -  no more issue. So...

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: RE:_Lumina_822_phone
 From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
 Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 7:47 am
 To: NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


 I'm on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead.  In my opinion, after 
 testing both, the HTC is a better device.

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RE: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread Webster
I hear there is an excellent university in your town. :)

Thanks


Webster

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone

Actually, I'm just looking for education. :)

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RE: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread Jon Harris
Personally I love my Lumina 822.  I have free maps that get me where I want to 
go, I have some free music, and it seems to have a good battery life.  The 
Nokia apps are better than the ones on the iCrap at least they don't have me 
going in circles and cost me money.  There was a special software package I had 
to install on my laptop to connect the two but then it is that way for most 
phones.  Hooking up to a network was easy and unlike the iCrap the 822 actually 
picks the best signal to connect to if it is presented two signal. I two would 
like an education as to what would make a Droid better than the 822? Jon From: 
webs...@carlwebster.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:56:13 +









I hear there is an excellent university in your town.
J
 

Thanks
 
 
Webster

 



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]


Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:44 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone


 
Actually, I’m just looking for education.
J



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Re: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread James Kerr
Well, I had been a user of Windows phone back in the 6.x days then I got a
Android device for work and another for personal use and I really got used
to it and liked it a lot. I was however, excited to get a Windows phone
again as it looked like it had come along a ways. When I got the Lumia and
started using it, it just seemed unfinished/very basic. When I setup active
sync on it, it didn't like the cheap cert we had for exchange (starfield?).
Anyway, my new Andoid phone with Jelly Bean is far more devoloped and
thought out. The fit and finish of the OS is much better. When I showed our
CEO my Windows phone he just about laughed and said he would prefer to keep
his DroidX, he ended up getting an iPhone (not his pick) and sent that back
and asked for another Android. I think he is going to end up with a S4.


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

  Not questioning your choice – but what didn’t you like about the Lumia? *
 ***

 ** **

 *From:* James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:20 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: _Lumina_822_phone

 ** **

 I got one from work and was pretty excited until I actually started using
 it. Then I sent it back and got a Droid DNA, much better.

 Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.

 On Feb 16, 2013 8:51 PM, joeu...@chronic.org wrote:

 I have the HTC Trophy - WP 7.5 -- 7.8 on Verizon. Solid, stable,
 Superb.
 Only gripe is that HTC doesn't treat its users as well as Nokia (Nokia
 has many exclusive apps).
 They can take my Trophy - when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand.
 WP8 is pretty good. Some phones seem to have some issues and others
 don't. Wi-Fi connectivity, battery life, etc.
 I think once it gets a patch under it's belt it will be solid. Remind
 you of anything?
 Friends have got a phone with an issue, returned it for another - same
 model -  no more issue. So...

 Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

 ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

   Original Message 
  Subject: RE:_Lumina_822_phone
  From: rodtr...@myitforum.com
  Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 7:47 am
  To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 
  I’m on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead.  In my opinion, after
 testing both, the HTC is a better device.

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Re: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread James Kerr
Yes, the Lumia would be an improvement over an iCrap device. For me the
Android OS is a far better OS the either iDevices or Windows phone and this
is coming from a Microsoft guy.


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:

 Personally I love my Lumina 822.  I have free maps that get me where I
 want to go, I have some free music, and it seems to have a good battery
 life.  The Nokia apps are better than the ones on the iCrap at least they
 don't have me going in circles and cost me money.  There was a special
 software package I had to install on my laptop to connect the two but
 then it is that way for most phones.  Hooking up to a network was easy and
 unlike the iCrap the 822 actually picks the best signal to connect to if it
 is presented two signal.

 I two would like an education as to what would make a Droid better than
 the 822?

 Jon
 --
 From: webs...@carlwebster.com
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone
 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:56:13 +


  I hear there is an excellent university in your town. J



 Thanks





 Webster



 *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:44 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: _Lumina_822_phone



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Re: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread steveyens
You guys should try the Z10... it really is good. I've tried the S3, I phone and lumia. BlackBerry sure has got it right. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.From: James KerrSent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:31 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesReply To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Re: _Lumina_822_phoneYes, the Lumia would be an improvement over an iCrap device. For me the Android OS is a far better OS the either iDevices or Windows phone and this is coming from a Microsoft guy.
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:



Personally I love my Lumina 822. I have freemapsthatget me where I want to go, I have some free music, and it seemsto have a good battery life. The Nokia appsare better than the ones on the iCrap at least they don't have me going in circles and cost me money. There was a special software package I had to install on my laptop to connect the two but thenit is that way for most phones. Hooking up to a networkwas easy and unlike the iCrapthe822 actually picks the bestsignal to connect to if it is presented two signal.
I two would like an education as to what would make a Droid better than the 822?JonFrom: webs...@carlwebster.comTo: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phoneDate: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:56:13 +







I hear there is an excellent university in your town.
J


Thanks


Webster





From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]

Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone



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J



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Re: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread rodtrent
groan



Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro



From: stevey...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎April‎ ‎27‎, ‎2013 ‎2‎:‎21‎ ‎PM
To: NT System Admin Issues


You guys should try the Z10... it really is good. I've tried the S3, I phone 
and lumia. BlackBerry sure has got it right. 

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.



From: James Kerr

Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:31 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Reply To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: _Lumina_822_phone





Yes, the Lumia would be an improvement over an iCrap device. For me the Android 
OS is a far better OS the either iDevices or Windows phone and this is coming 
from a Microsoft guy.





On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:



Personally I love my Lumina 822.  I have free maps that get me where I want to 
go, I have some free music, and it seems to have a good battery life.  The 
Nokia apps are better than the ones on the iCrap at least they don't have me 
going in circles and cost me money.  There was a special software package I had 
to install on my laptop to connect the two but then it is that way for most 
phones.  Hooking up to a network was easy and unlike the iCrap the 822 actually 
picks the best signal to connect to if it is presented two signal.
 
I two would like an education as to what would make a Droid better than the 822?
 
Jon 




From: webs...@carlwebster.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:56:13 +





I hear there is an excellent university in your town. J

 


Thanks

 

 

Webster

 




From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone

 

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Re: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread rodtrent
HTC 8x is a better phone than the Lumia. Lumia has a better camera, that's 
about it.



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From: James Kerr
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To: NT System Admin Issues


Well, I had been a user of Windows phone back in the 6.x days then I got a 
Android device for work and another for personal use and I really got used to 
it and liked it a lot. I was however, excited to get a Windows phone again as 
it looked like it had come along a ways. When I got the Lumia and started using 
it, it just seemed unfinished/very basic. When I setup active sync on it, it 
didn't like the cheap cert we had for exchange (starfield?). Anyway, my new 
Andoid phone with Jelly Bean is far more devoloped and thought out. The fit and 
finish of the OS is much better. When I showed our CEO my Windows phone he just 
about laughed and said he would prefer to keep his DroidX, he ended up getting 
an iPhone (not his pick) and sent that back and asked for another Android. I 
think he is going to end up with a S4.





On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 
wrote:




Not questioning your choice – but what didn’t you like about the Lumia? 

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:20 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone



 

I got one from work and was pretty excited until I actually started using it. 
Then I sent it back and got a Droid DNA, much better.

Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.


On Feb 16, 2013 8:51 PM, joeu...@chronic.org wrote:

I have the HTC Trophy - WP 7.5 -- 7.8 on Verizon. Solid, stable,
Superb.
Only gripe is that HTC doesn't treat its users as well as Nokia (Nokia
has many exclusive apps).
They can take my Trophy - when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand.
WP8 is pretty good. Some phones seem to have some issues and others
don't. Wi-Fi connectivity, battery life, etc.
I think once it gets a patch under it's belt it will be solid. Remind
you of anything?
Friends have got a phone with an issue, returned it for another - same
model -  no more issue. So...

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

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 Subject: RE:_Lumina_822_phone
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 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


 I’m on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead.  In my opinion, after 
 testing both, the HTC is a better device.

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RE: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread Webster
Aren’t you supposed to be planning MMS 2014?

Thanks


Webster

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Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:39 PM
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groan

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RE: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread Van Noy, Glen
Totally agree on the Z10, it is a super phone.  The only problem is that there 
are no apps yet for it.  Like a Windows phone, but only worse.

Hopefully, the apps will come, cause it is a great phone.



glen

From: stevey...@gmail.com [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: _Lumina_822_phone

You guys should try the Z10... it really is good. I've tried the S3, I phone 
and lumia. BlackBerry sure has got it right.

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: James Kerr
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: _Lumina_822_phone


Yes, the Lumia would be an improvement over an iCrap device. For me the Android 
OS is a far better OS the either iDevices or Windows phone and this is coming 
from a Microsoft guy.

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jon Harris 
jk.har...@live.commailto:jk.har...@live.com wrote:
Personally I love my Lumina 822.  I have free maps that get me where I want to 
go, I have some free music, and it seems to have a good battery life.  The 
Nokia apps are better than the ones on the iCrap at least they don't have me 
going in circles and cost me money.  There was a special software package I had 
to install on my laptop to connect the two but then it is that way for most 
phones.  Hooking up to a network was easy and unlike the iCrap the 822 actually 
picks the best signal to connect to if it is presented two signal.

I two would like an education as to what would make a Droid better than the 822?

Jon

From: webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com
To: 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:56:13 +


I hear there is an excellent university in your town. ☺



Thanks





Webster



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Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone



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Re: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread rodtrent
I am! :)


Meeting on May 1st. Announcement at TechEd.



Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro



From: Webster
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To: NT System Admin Issues



Aren’t you supposed to be planning MMS 2014?

 


Thanks

 

 

Webster

 




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Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: _Lumina_822_phone

 



groan

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Re: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread rodtrent
I thought it was supposed to have access to Android apps...



Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro



From: Van Noy, Glen
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To: NT System Admin Issues



Totally agree on the Z10, it is a super phone.  The only problem is that there 
are no apps yet for it.  Like a Windows phone, but only worse.

 

Hopefully, the apps will come, cause it is a great phone.

 


 

 

glen

 



From: stevey...@gmail.com [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: _Lumina_822_phone

 


You guys should try the Z10... it really is good. I've tried the S3, I phone 
and lumia. BlackBerry sure has got it right. 

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.




From: James Kerr


Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:31 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues


Reply To: NT System Admin Issues


Subject: Re: _Lumina_822_phone


 



Yes, the Lumia would be an improvement over an iCrap device. For me the Android 
OS is a far better OS the either iDevices or Windows phone and this is coming 
from a Microsoft guy.


 


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:




Personally I love my Lumina 822.  I have free maps that get me where I want to 
go, I have some free music, and it seems to have a good battery life.  The 
Nokia apps are better than the ones on the iCrap at least they don't have me 
going in circles and cost me money.  There was a special software package I had 
to install on my laptop to connect the two but then it is that way for most 
phones.  Hooking up to a network was easy and unlike the iCrap the 822 actually 
picks the best signal to connect to if it is presented two signal.
 
I two would like an education as to what would make a Droid better than the 822?
 
Jon 






From: webs...@carlwebster.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:56:13 +



 


I hear there is an excellent university in your town. J

 


Thanks

 

 

Webster

 




From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone

 

Actually, I’m just looking for education. J

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RE: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread John Cook
I like the Z10 (although it isn't connected to our BES yet) there some things I 
like better on my win8 phone but I like the feel of the  BB

Sent from my HTC 8x Windows Phone which totally rocks!

From: stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎4/‎27/‎2013 2:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: _Lumina_822_phone

You guys should try the Z10... it really is good. I've tried the S3, I phone 
and lumia. BlackBerry sure has got it right.

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: James Kerr
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: _Lumina_822_phone


Yes, the Lumia would be an improvement over an iCrap device. For me the Android 
OS is a far better OS the either iDevices or Windows phone and this is coming 
from a Microsoft guy.


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jon Harris 
jk.har...@live.commailto:jk.har...@live.com wrote:
Personally I love my Lumina 822.  I have free maps that get me where I want to 
go, I have some free music, and it seems to have a good battery life.  The 
Nokia apps are better than the ones on the iCrap at least they don't have me 
going in circles and cost me money.  There was a special software package I had 
to install on my laptop to connect the two but then it is that way for most 
phones.  Hooking up to a network was easy and unlike the iCrap the 822 actually 
picks the best signal to connect to if it is presented two signal.

I two would like an education as to what would make a Droid better than the 822?

Jon

From: webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com
To: 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:56:13 +



I hear there is an excellent university in your town. :)



Thanks





Webster



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Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone



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RE: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread Michael B. Smith
I am very fond of the Nokia apps. Are those available on the HTC?

From: rodtr...@myitforum.com [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: _Lumina_822_phone

HTC 8x is a better phone than the Lumia. Lumia has a better camera, that's 
about it.

Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro

From: James Kerr
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎April‎ ‎27‎, ‎2013 ‎1‎:‎22‎ ‎PM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Well, I had been a user of Windows phone back in the 6.x days then I got a 
Android device for work and another for personal use and I really got used to 
it and liked it a lot. I was however, excited to get a Windows phone again as 
it looked like it had come along a ways. When I got the Lumia and started using 
it, it just seemed unfinished/very basic. When I setup active sync on it, it 
didn't like the cheap cert we had for exchange (starfield?). Anyway, my new 
Andoid phone with Jelly Bean is far more devoloped and thought out. The fit and 
finish of the OS is much better. When I showed our CEO my Windows phone he just 
about laughed and said he would prefer to keep his DroidX, he ended up getting 
an iPhone (not his pick) and sent that back and asked for another Android. I 
think he is going to end up with a S4.

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
Not questioning your choice – but what didn’t you like about the Lumia?

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:20 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone




I got one from work and was pretty excited until I actually started using it. 
Then I sent it back and got a Droid DNA, much better.

Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.
On Feb 16, 2013 8:51 PM, joeu...@chronic.orgmailto:joeu...@chronic.org 
wrote:
I have the HTC Trophy - WP 7.5 -- 7.8 on Verizon. Solid, stable,
Superb.
Only gripe is that HTC doesn't treat its users as well as Nokia (Nokia
has many exclusive apps).
They can take my Trophy - when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand.
WP8 is pretty good. Some phones seem to have some issues and others
don't. Wi-Fi connectivity, battery life, etc.
I think once it gets a patch under it's belt it will be solid. Remind
you of anything?
Friends have got a phone with an issue, returned it for another - same
model -  no more issue. So...

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: RE:_Lumina_822_phone
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 Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 7:47 am
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 I’m on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead.  In my opinion, after 
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Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-27 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I offered on the exchange list  I would be happy to setup and host a new 
listserv.

Sent from my iPad mini

On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:06 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec 
kava...@gmail.commailto:kava...@gmail.com wrote:

Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world?

Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600

Or build our own?



On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff 
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
See response below...

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, 
 thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I realize your 
 response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a Gmail thing?


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  
 s...@knowbe4.commailto:s...@knowbe4.com wrote:


 Hi All,

 You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.

 This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which
 will shut down at the end of this month.

 GFI will confirm this with a separate message.

 I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.

 Warm regards,

 Stu

 Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?

 You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's 
 the subscription info?

 Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)

 Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler?

 Kurt

No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty
lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the
message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each
message.

It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons:

o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way
through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the
reply, then bounce down and read the original post

o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's
easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual
thoughts in the original post(s).

Kurt

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And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight 
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Re: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread rodtrent
Some are. The Nokia Drive app is, for example. HTC also has wireless charging 
which doesn't get a lot of press.



Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro



From: Michael B. Smith
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎April‎ ‎27‎, ‎2013 ‎6‎:‎17‎ ‎PM
To: NT System Admin Issues



I am very fond of the Nokia apps. Are those available on the HTC?

 



From: rodtr...@myitforum.com [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: _Lumina_822_phone

 



HTC 8x is a better phone than the Lumia. Lumia has a better camera, that's 
about it.



 


Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro


 



From: James Kerr
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎April‎ ‎27‎, ‎2013 ‎1‎:‎22‎ ‎PM
To: NT System Admin Issues


 


Well, I had been a user of Windows phone back in the 6.x days then I got a 
Android device for work and another for personal use and I really got used to 
it and liked it a lot. I was however, excited to get a Windows phone again as 
it looked like it had come along a ways. When I got the Lumia and started using 
it, it just seemed unfinished/very basic. When I setup active sync on it, it 
didn't like the cheap cert we had for exchange (starfield?). Anyway, my new 
Andoid phone with Jelly Bean is far more devoloped and thought out. The fit and 
finish of the OS is much better. When I showed our CEO my Windows phone he just 
about laughed and said he would prefer to keep his DroidX, he ended up getting 
an iPhone (not his pick) and sent that back and asked for another Android. I 
think he is going to end up with a S4.


 


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 
wrote:



Not questioning your choice – but what didn’t you like about the Lumia? 

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:20 AM



To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone

 



 

I got one from work and was pretty excited until I actually started using it. 
Then I sent it back and got a Droid DNA, much better.

Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.


On Feb 16, 2013 8:51 PM, joeu...@chronic.org wrote:

I have the HTC Trophy - WP 7.5 -- 7.8 on Verizon. Solid, stable,
Superb.
Only gripe is that HTC doesn't treat its users as well as Nokia (Nokia
has many exclusive apps).
They can take my Trophy - when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand.
WP8 is pretty good. Some phones seem to have some issues and others
don't. Wi-Fi connectivity, battery life, etc.
I think once it gets a patch under it's belt it will be solid. Remind
you of anything?
Friends have got a phone with an issue, returned it for another - same
model -  no more issue. So...

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: RE:_Lumina_822_phone
 From: rodtr...@myitforum.com
 Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 7:47 am
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


 I’m on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead.  In my opinion, after 
 testing both, the HTC is a better device.

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Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-27 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Where you most within the message was also an issue on the NANOG list.  

Sent from my iPad mini

On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 Oh my...that's a lot of work for both the recipient and the sender and 
 definitely not the norm.  I guess we're all just doing it wrong. :)
 
 I thought it was an email client issue, like you were using Lotus Notes or 
 something.
 
 It used to be much easier and much more common, and most clients and
 listservs didn't make it hard to bottom post - gmail, and many others,
 now make you go through stupid gyrations to make email easy and more
 natural to read.
 
 But, once your fingers learn the rhythm, it's no big deal, and it's a
 lot easier for others to read and follow along.
 
 Kurt
 
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Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-27 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I miss the days of pine and elm lol 

Sent from my iPad mini

On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

 It was normal for 20 years, until Outlook didn't do it and it gained primacy. 
 All of the other clients followed along.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:55 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
 
 Oh my...that's a lot of work for both the recipient and the sender and 
 definitely not the norm.  I guess we're all just doing it wrong. :)
 
 I thought it was an email client issue, like you were using Lotus Notes or 
 something.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:49 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
 
 See response below...
 
 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it 
 automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I 
 realize your response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a 
 Gmail thing?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
 
 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  s...@knowbe4.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.
 
 This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which 
 will shut down at the end of this month.
 
 GFI will confirm this with a separate message.
 
 I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.
 
 Warm regards,
 
 Stu
 
 Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?
 
 You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's 
 the subscription info?
 
 Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)
 
 Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler?
 
 Kurt
 
 No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines 
 that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete 
 the cruft that the list software appends to each message.
 
 It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons:
 
 o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way 
 through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, 
 then bounce down and read the original post
 
 o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to 
 maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the 
 original post(s).
 
 Kurt
 
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Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-27 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Google Plus is web based.  I like good old email over web based.

Sent from my iPad mini

On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

I will not use a google property for something that has a business purpose for 
me.

I'm only one person, but I doubt I'm the only one that feels that way.

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world?

Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600

Or build our own?


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff 
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
See response below...

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, 
 thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I realize your 
 response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a Gmail thing?


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  
 s...@knowbe4.commailto:s...@knowbe4.com wrote:


 Hi All,

 You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.

 This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which
 will shut down at the end of this month.

 GFI will confirm this with a separate message.

 I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.

 Warm regards,

 Stu

 Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?

 You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's 
 the subscription info?

 Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)

 Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler?

 Kurt
No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty
lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the
message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each
message.

It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons:

o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way
through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the
reply, then bounce down and read the original post

o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's
easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual
thoughts in the original post(s).

Kurt

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suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has 
a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the children yet unborn.
And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight 
Zone.

- Rod Serling;
Closing monologue from The Monsters are Due on Maple Street
The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22



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Re: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I had a Lumina 900 loved it. Now have an HTC 8X on Verizon. Waiting to order 
the Lumina 928.

Sent from my iPad mini

On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:24 AM, James Kerr 
cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com wrote:


I got one from work and was pretty excited until I actually started using it. 
Then I sent it back and got a Droid DNA, much better.

Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.

On Feb 16, 2013 8:51 PM, joeu...@chronic.orgmailto:joeu...@chronic.org 
wrote:
I have the HTC Trophy - WP 7.5 -- 7.8 on Verizon. Solid, stable,
Superb.
Only gripe is that HTC doesn't treat its users as well as Nokia (Nokia
has many exclusive apps).
They can take my Trophy - when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand.
WP8 is pretty good. Some phones seem to have some issues and others
don't. Wi-Fi connectivity, battery life, etc.
I think once it gets a patch under it's belt it will be solid. Remind
you of anything?
Friends have got a phone with an issue, returned it for another - same
model -  no more issue. So...

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: RE:_Lumina_822_phone
 From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
 Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 7:47 am
 To: NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


 I'm on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead.  In my opinion, after 
 testing both, the HTC is a better device.

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Re: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Some but not all the Nokia Apps.

Sent from my iPad mini

On Apr 27, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

I am very fond of the Nokia apps. Are those available on the HTC?

From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com 
[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: _Lumina_822_phone

HTC 8x is a better phone than the Lumia. Lumia has a better camera, that's 
about it.

Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro

From: James Kerr
Sent: ?Saturday?, ?April? ?27?, ?2013 ?1?:?22? ?PM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Well, I had been a user of Windows phone back in the 6.x days then I got a 
Android device for work and another for personal use and I really got used to 
it and liked it a lot. I was however, excited to get a Windows phone again as 
it looked like it had come along a ways. When I got the Lumia and started using 
it, it just seemed unfinished/very basic. When I setup active sync on it, it 
didn't like the cheap cert we had for exchange (starfield?). Anyway, my new 
Andoid phone with Jelly Bean is far more devoloped and thought out. The fit and 
finish of the OS is much better. When I showed our CEO my Windows phone he just 
about laughed and said he would prefer to keep his DroidX, he ended up getting 
an iPhone (not his pick) and sent that back and asked for another Android. I 
think he is going to end up with a S4.

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
Not questioning your choice - but what didn't you like about the Lumia?

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:20 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone




I got one from work and was pretty excited until I actually started using it. 
Then I sent it back and got a Droid DNA, much better.

Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.
On Feb 16, 2013 8:51 PM, joeu...@chronic.orgmailto:joeu...@chronic.org 
wrote:
I have the HTC Trophy - WP 7.5 -- 7.8 on Verizon. Solid, stable,
Superb.
Only gripe is that HTC doesn't treat its users as well as Nokia (Nokia
has many exclusive apps).
They can take my Trophy - when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand.
WP8 is pretty good. Some phones seem to have some issues and others
don't. Wi-Fi connectivity, battery life, etc.
I think once it gets a patch under it's belt it will be solid. Remind
you of anything?
Friends have got a phone with an issue, returned it for another - same
model -  no more issue. So...

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: RE:_Lumina_822_phone
 From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
 Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 7:47 am
 To: NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


 I'm on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead.  In my opinion, after 
 testing both, the HTC is a better device.

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Re: _Lumina_822_phone

2013-04-27 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I think just the VZW 8X has wireless charging

Sent from my iPad mini

On Apr 27, 2013, at 7:33 PM, 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

Some are. The Nokia Drive app is, for example. HTC also has wireless charging 
which doesn't get a lot of press.

Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro

From: Michael B. Smith
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎April‎ ‎27‎, ‎2013 ‎6‎:‎17‎ ‎PM
To: NT System Admin Issues

I am very fond of the Nokia apps. Are those available on the HTC?

From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com 
[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: _Lumina_822_phone

HTC 8x is a better phone than the Lumia. Lumia has a better camera, that's 
about it.

Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro

From: James Kerr
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎April‎ ‎27‎, ‎2013 ‎1‎:‎22‎ ‎PM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Well, I had been a user of Windows phone back in the 6.x days then I got a 
Android device for work and another for personal use and I really got used to 
it and liked it a lot. I was however, excited to get a Windows phone again as 
it looked like it had come along a ways. When I got the Lumia and started using 
it, it just seemed unfinished/very basic. When I setup active sync on it, it 
didn't like the cheap cert we had for exchange (starfield?). Anyway, my new 
Andoid phone with Jelly Bean is far more devoloped and thought out. The fit and 
finish of the OS is much better. When I showed our CEO my Windows phone he just 
about laughed and said he would prefer to keep his DroidX, he ended up getting 
an iPhone (not his pick) and sent that back and asked for another Android. I 
think he is going to end up with a S4.

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
Not questioning your choice – but what didn’t you like about the Lumia?

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:20 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone




I got one from work and was pretty excited until I actually started using it. 
Then I sent it back and got a Droid DNA, much better.

Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.
On Feb 16, 2013 8:51 PM, joeu...@chronic.orgmailto:joeu...@chronic.org 
wrote:
I have the HTC Trophy - WP 7.5 -- 7.8 on Verizon. Solid, stable,
Superb.
Only gripe is that HTC doesn't treat its users as well as Nokia (Nokia
has many exclusive apps).
They can take my Trophy - when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand.
WP8 is pretty good. Some phones seem to have some issues and others
don't. Wi-Fi connectivity, battery life, etc.
I think once it gets a patch under it's belt it will be solid. Remind
you of anything?
Friends have got a phone with an issue, returned it for another - same
model -  no more issue. So...

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: RE:_Lumina_822_phone
 From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
 Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 7:47 am
 To: NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


 I’m on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead.  In my opinion, after 
 testing both, the HTC is a better device.

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Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-27 Thread Kurt Buff
To my mind, it's all the difference...

Email comes to me. I see it all in my inbox, and can read and respond
at leisure, and it all works as a normal email conversation.

I have to go to web forums. Each one has a different interface and
ways of working.

Definitely prefer email.

Kurt

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote:
 Google Plus is web based.  I like good old email over web based.


 Sent from my iPad mini

 On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
 wrote:

 I will not use a google property for something that has a business purpose
 for me.



 I’m only one person, but I doubt I’m the only one that feels that way.



 From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM


 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION



 Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world?

 Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600



 Or build our own?





 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 See response below...


 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it
 automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I
 realize your response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a
 Gmail thing?


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  s...@knowbe4.com wrote:


 Hi All,

 You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.

 This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which
 will shut down at the end of this month.

 GFI will confirm this with a separate message.

 I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.

 Warm regards,

 Stu

 Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?

 You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's
 the subscription info?

 Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)

 Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list
 handler?

 Kurt

 No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty
 lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the
 message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each
 message.

 It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons:

 o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way
 through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the
 reply, then bounce down and read the original post

 o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's
 easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual
 thoughts in the original post(s).


 Kurt

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 G. Waleed Kavalec
 --

 The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and
 fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices,
 to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill
 and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a
 scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the children
 yet unborn.

 And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight
 Zone.



 - Rod Serling;

 Closing monologue from The Monsters are Due on Maple Street

 The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22




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Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-27 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I wish the Microsoft News Groups there still running.  Never really go to the 
web forums on a regular basis.  

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:07 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 To my mind, it's all the difference...
 
 Email comes to me. I see it all in my inbox, and can read and respond
 at leisure, and it all works as a normal email conversation.
 
 I have to go to web forums. Each one has a different interface and
 ways of working.
 
 Definitely prefer email.
 
 Kurt
 
 On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote:
 Google Plus is web based.  I like good old email over web based.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad mini
 
 On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
 wrote:
 
 I will not use a google property for something that has a business purpose
 for me.
 
 
 
 I’m only one person, but I doubt I’m the only one that feels that way.
 
 
 
 From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM
 
 
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
 
 
 
 Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world?
 
 Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600
 
 
 
 Or build our own?
 
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 See response below...
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it
 automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I
 realize your response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a
 Gmail thing?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
 
 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  s...@knowbe4.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.
 
 This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which
 will shut down at the end of this month.
 
 GFI will confirm this with a separate message.
 
 I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.
 
 Warm regards,
 
 Stu
 
 Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?
 
 You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's
 the subscription info?
 
 Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)
 
 Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list
 handler?
 
 Kurt
 
 No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty
 lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the
 message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each
 message.
 
 It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons:
 
 o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way
 through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the
 reply, then bounce down and read the original post
 
 o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's
 easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual
 thoughts in the original post(s).
 
 
 Kurt
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 ---
 To manage subscriptions click here:
 http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
 or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
 with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 
 G. Waleed Kavalec
 --
 
 The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and
 fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices,
 to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill
 and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a
 scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the children
 yet unborn.
 
 And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight
 Zone.
 
 
 
 - Rod Serling;
 
 Closing monologue from The Monsters are Due on Maple Street
 
 The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22
 
 
 
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 
 
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 ---
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 ~ 

RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-27 Thread Webster
I can always get email no matter where I am or what customer I am doing work 
for.  Need to access a website to get forum stuff?  Not gonna happen in a lot 
of places.

Thanks


Webster


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 6:56 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
 
 To my mind, it's all the difference...
 
 Email comes to me. I see it all in my inbox, and can read and respond at
 leisure, and it all works as a normal email conversation.
 
 I have to go to web forums. Each one has a different interface and ways of
 working.
 
 Definitely prefer email.

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-27 Thread Jonathan Link
Did you just top post?


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 To my mind, it's all the difference...

 Email comes to me. I see it all in my inbox, and can read and respond
 at leisure, and it all works as a normal email conversation.

 I have to go to web forums. Each one has a different interface and
 ways of working.

 Definitely prefer email.

 Kurt

 On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote:
  Google Plus is web based.  I like good old email over web based.
 
 
  Sent from my iPad mini
 
  On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
  wrote:
 
  I will not use a google property for something that has a business
 purpose
  for me.
 
 
 
  I’m only one person, but I doubt I’m the only one that feels that way.
 
 
 
  From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM
 
 
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
 
 
 
  Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world?
 
  Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600
 
 
 
  Or build our own?
 
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  See response below...
 
 
  On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com
 wrote:
  Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it
  automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I
  realize your response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a
  Gmail thing?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
 
  On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  s...@knowbe4.com wrote:
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.
 
  This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which
  will shut down at the end of this month.
 
  GFI will confirm this with a separate message.
 
  I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.
 
  Warm regards,
 
  Stu
 
  Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?
 
  You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so,
 where's
  the subscription info?
 
  Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)
 
  Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list
  handler?
 
  Kurt
 
  No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty
  lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the
  message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each
  message.
 
  It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons:
 
  o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way
  through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the
  reply, then bounce down and read the original post
 
  o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's
  easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual
  thoughts in the original post(s).
 
 
  Kurt
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
  ---
  To manage subscriptions click here:
  http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
  or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
  with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
 
 
 
 
 
  --
 
  G. Waleed Kavalec
  --
 
  The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions
 and
  fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes,
 prejudices,
  to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill
  and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a
  scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the
 children
  yet unborn.
 
  And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the
 Twilight
  Zone.
 
 
 
  - Rod Serling;
 
  Closing monologue from The Monsters are Due on Maple Street
 
  The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22
 
 
 
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 
 
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
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  ---
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RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-27 Thread Crawford, Scott
+1

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 6:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

To my mind, it's all the difference...

Email comes to me. I see it all in my inbox, and can read and respond at 
leisure, and it all works as a normal email conversation.

I have to go to web forums. Each one has a different interface and ways of 
working.

Definitely prefer email.

Kurt

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote:
 Google Plus is web based.  I like good old email over web based.


 Sent from my iPad mini

 On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Michael B. Smith 
 mich...@smithcons.com
 wrote:

 I will not use a google property for something that has a business 
 purpose for me.



 I’m only one person, but I doubt I’m the only one that feels that way.



 From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM


 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION



 Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world?

 Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600



 Or build our own?





 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 See response below...


 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it 
 automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  
 Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  
 Is that a Gmail thing?


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  s...@knowbe4.com wrote:


 Hi All,

 You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.

 This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which 
 will shut down at the end of this month.

 GFI will confirm this with a separate message.

 I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.

 Warm regards,

 Stu

 Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?

 You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, 
 where's the subscription info?

 Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)

 Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list 
 handler?

 Kurt

 No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty 
 lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the 
 message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each 
 message.

 It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons:

 o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way 
 through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the 
 reply, then bounce down and read the original post

 o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's 
 easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual 
 thoughts in the original post(s).


 Kurt

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 The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and 
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 attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the 
 record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a 
 thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of 
 its own - for the children, and the children yet unborn.

 And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the 
 Twilight Zone.



 - Rod Serling;

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 The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22




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RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-27 Thread Crawford, Scott
:)

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

Did you just top post?

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Kurt Buff 
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
To my mind, it's all the difference...

Email comes to me. I see it all in my inbox, and can read and respond
at leisure, and it all works as a normal email conversation.

I have to go to web forums. Each one has a different interface and
ways of working.

Definitely prefer email.

Kurt

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
 Google Plus is web based.  I like good old email over web based.


 Sent from my iPad mini

 On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Michael B. Smith 
 mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com
 wrote:

 I will not use a google property for something that has a business purpose
 for me.



 I'm only one person, but I doubt I'm the only one that feels that way.



 From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.commailto:kava...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM


 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION



 Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world?

 Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600



 Or build our own?





 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff 
 kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 See response below...


 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent 
 rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it
 automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I
 realize your response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a
 Gmail thing?


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  
 s...@knowbe4.commailto:s...@knowbe4.com wrote:


 Hi All,

 You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.

 This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which
 will shut down at the end of this month.

 GFI will confirm this with a separate message.

 I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.

 Warm regards,

 Stu

 Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?

 You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's
 the subscription info?

 Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)

 Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list
 handler?

 Kurt

 No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty
 lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the
 message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each
 message.

 It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons:

 o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way
 through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the
 reply, then bounce down and read the original post

 o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's
 easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual
 thoughts in the original post(s).


 Kurt

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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 G. Waleed Kavalec
 --

 The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and
 fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices,
 to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill
 and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a
 scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the children
 yet unborn.

 And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight
 Zone.



 - Rod Serling;

 Closing monologue from The Monsters are Due on Maple Street

 The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22




 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~


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