RE: IIS Question
:) entertaining as usual. Why'd you change the subject line? -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 4:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IIS Question On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Daniele Bartoli danielebart...@gmail.com wrote: Got an IIS question that I am hoping someone can help with. boo-bee-BEEP We're sorry, the list you have posted to is no longer in service. The new address is: nysys...@lists.myitforum.com Please close this message, and try your post again. This is a recording. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: IIS Question
ahh -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 5:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IIS Question On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: Why'd you change the subject line? I didn't, OP apparently posted the same message body twice with two different subject lines. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [NTSysADM] Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
Also, might be nice to subscribe Rod's list to the GFI list so all messages to GFI go to both places in the interim. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [NTSysADM] Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I think we need someone to send out an official communication to pick everyone up :-) On 29 April 2013 16:09, Pete Howard pchow...@yahoo.commailto:pchow...@yahoo.com wrote: Just joined too From: Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:41 AM Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Just joined myself, appreciate it Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, CISA, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org Work:401-444-9081tel:401-444-9081 This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. [Description: Description: Lifespan] From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgmailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Thank you very much Sir. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Done. Link is here: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/ Rod Trenthttp://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ [myITSMButton]http://www.myitforum.com/[TwitterButton]http://twitter.com/rodtrent[Facebookbutton]http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent[LinkedInButton]http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Sounds good to me and post the link so we can start over there... Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, CISA, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org Work:401-444-9081tel:401-444-9081 This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. [Description: Description: Lifespan] From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I vote do it. I prefer e-mail to web forum for this stuff. From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I can set up a list in a few minutes, just say the word. We already host over 25 lists and have plenty of bandwidth to spare. Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro From: Kennedy, Jim Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 8:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues The end of the month and allegedly the end of the list is tomorrow. We need a plan B to get back in contact to get this going again if possible. Someone got a blog we can bookmark for new/announcements that would be willing to post anything they hear? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: So where is this new list signup?
Yeah, I found a few lists I liked. Thanks Rod. -Original Message- From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: So where is this new list signup? On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: We don't know what is happening on the move. So here is plan B: Thanks. I signed up there. And also for the Powershell list, as I am getting more into that. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Done. Link is here: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [NTSysADM] Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
I thought this was the GFI list. In any case, whatever the long-existing list is. If that's added to Rod's, we can all stop reading this one and subscribe to Rod's only. From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Since the GFI list is as yet imaginary would it be an imaginary subscription? From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Also, might be nice to subscribe Rod's list to the GFI list so all messages to GFI go to both places in the interim. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [NTSysADM] Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I think we need someone to send out an official communication to pick everyone up :-) On 29 April 2013 16:09, Pete Howard pchow...@yahoo.commailto:pchow...@yahoo.com wrote: Just joined too From: Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:41 AM Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Just joined myself, appreciate it Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, CISA, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org Work:401-444-9081tel:401-444-9081 This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. [Description: Description: Lifespan] From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgmailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Thank you very much Sir. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Done. Link is here: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/ Rod Trenthttp://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ [myITSMButton]http://www.myitforum.com/[TwitterButton]http://twitter.com/rodtrent[Facebookbutton]http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent[LinkedInButton]http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Sounds good to me and post the link so we can start over there... Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, CISA, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org Work:401-444-9081tel:401-444-9081 This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. [Description: Description: Lifespan] From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I vote do it. I prefer e-mail to web forum for this stuff. From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I can set up a list in a few minutes, just say the word. We already host over 25 lists and have plenty of bandwidth to spare. Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro From: Kennedy, Jim Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 8:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues The end of the month and allegedly the end of the list is tomorrow. We need a plan B to get back in contact to get this going again if possible. Someone got a blog we can bookmark for new/announcements that would be willing to post anything they hear? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint
RE: _Lumina_822_phone
I think that's the very definition if questioning his choice. :) (still waiting for a lumia on sprint) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Michael B. Smith Sent: 4/27/2013 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone Not questioning your choice – but what didn’t you like about the Lumia? From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: _Lumina_822_phone I got one from work and was pretty excited until I actually started using it. Then I sent it back and got a Droid DNA, much better. Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher. On Feb 16, 2013 8:51 PM, joeu...@chronic.orgmailto:joeu...@chronic.org wrote: I have the HTC Trophy - WP 7.5 -- 7.8 on Verizon. Solid, stable, Superb. Only gripe is that HTC doesn't treat its users as well as Nokia (Nokia has many exclusive apps). They can take my Trophy - when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand. WP8 is pretty good. Some phones seem to have some issues and others don't. Wi-Fi connectivity, battery life, etc. I think once it gets a patch under it's belt it will be solid. Remind you of anything? Friends have got a phone with an issue, returned it for another - same model - no more issue. So... Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... Original Message Subject: RE:_Lumina_822_phone From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 7:47 am To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com I’m on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead. In my opinion, after testing both, the HTC is a better device. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
+1 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 6:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION To my mind, it's all the difference... Email comes to me. I see it all in my inbox, and can read and respond at leisure, and it all works as a normal email conversation. I have to go to web forums. Each one has a different interface and ways of working. Definitely prefer email. Kurt On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote: Google Plus is web based. I like good old email over web based. Sent from my iPad mini On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I will not use a google property for something that has a business purpose for me. I’m only one person, but I doubt I’m the only one that feels that way. From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world? Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600 Or build our own? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec -- The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone. - Rod Serling; Closing monologue from The Monsters are Due on Maple Street The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
:) From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Did you just top post? On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: To my mind, it's all the difference... Email comes to me. I see it all in my inbox, and can read and respond at leisure, and it all works as a normal email conversation. I have to go to web forums. Each one has a different interface and ways of working. Definitely prefer email. Kurt On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote: Google Plus is web based. I like good old email over web based. Sent from my iPad mini On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I will not use a google property for something that has a business purpose for me. I'm only one person, but I doubt I'm the only one that feels that way. From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.commailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world? Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600 Or build our own? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.commailto:s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec -- The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone. - Rod Serling; Closing monologue from The Monsters are Due on Maple Street The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage
RE: browser-based MD5/SHA1/SHA-256 checksum
Yeah, it's not ideal for every use, but it's a handy option, especially if you can't download for some reason. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 5:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: browser-based MD5/SHA1/SHA-256 checksum On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: Just came across this site. It's pretty slick. http://md5online.info/ I gotta believe that doing hashing in JavaScript is slower than just downloading a binary utility for the appropriate OS. :-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PowerShell - Dependent parameters
I'll just tack on a general thanks for all the powershell help. Nice to have such expertise available for free :) Clues are a great option. They encourage learning and enable quicker answers. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 7:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PowerShell - Dependent parameters Sorry. I may be an a$$hole, but I have always preferred to give people clues than to give them direct answers. And your solution is very clean. I like it. :) :) :) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PowerShell - Dependent parameters On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: What you are missing is the DefaultParameterSetName. Ahhh... that did it! Thanks for the clue! Finished code, for those so interested: http://pastebin.com/dQbDDqKN It even treats -mailTo as optional when -smtpHost is present (a valid, albeit useless, scenario). RTFM. :) Payette, Second Edition, section 8.2. My copy of Payette is at work on my desk, and was open during this exercise. This is one of those It's easy to find, if you know the answer situations. :-) Thanks again! -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments
Clever Sent from my Windows Phone From: Mark Boersma Sent: 4/9/2013 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments My policy is to block zip files by size. If you block all zips smaller than 500k you’ll stop all the viruses. Allow zips larger than 500k and those will be the legit files. Sounds sort of silly but it absolutely works. Obviously I have scanners and such running too but that is my attachment policy. Mark - Two rules for success in life: 1. Never tell people everything you know. From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments We mostly rely on our appliance (IronPort) to catch them, but we do have a special rule that quarantines any password-protected ZIP files (because the appliance can’t inspect those). From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: .ZIP file e-mail attachments Do any of you guys still allow this? I ask because at %formerjob% they were blocked, but %dayjob% allows them, and last week and today we’ve received infected .ZIP files. Last week was another autorun outbreak, today we caught it before anyone actually ran it. We keep getting latest and greatest variants “First seen by VirusTotal 2013-04-09 09:51:15 UTC (4 hours, 58 minutes ago)”. Grr… David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Analysing process dumps
Nice post. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ken Schaefer Sent: 4/6/2013 3:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Analysing process dumps If you want to use WinDBG, this is probably a good start: http://www.adopenstatic.com/cs/blogs/ken/archive/2009/06/30/24910.aspx Dump a list of threads and see which are the longest running Then dump the managed and unmanaged stacks for those threads. The problem then is that you need to know what you’re looking at. You can post some here if you want or at forums.iis.net Cheers Ken From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, 5 April 2013 9:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Analysing process dumps Oh, wonderful, thanks. I tried windbg, but yes, the output is a bit mystifying and I’m not sure what I’m looking for. Thanks Ken Richard From: bounce-9597307-8267...@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:bounce-9597307-8267...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9597307-8267...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: 05 April 2013 11:19 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Analysing process dumps IIS Debug Diagnostics tool does a bunch of things for you automagically, and is geared towards w3wp.exe issues. Otherwise you can simply download the Windows Debugging Toolkit (the main tool you want is WinDBG), or use any user mode debugger (even Visual Studio.Net) if you want to try to root cause yourself However actually understanding what you are looking at requires some knowledge (plus some knowledge of how the tool works) Personally, I would use IISDebugDiag, and post the output to forums.iis.net – a bunch of MS PSS folk and MVPs hang out there, and if they can’t help you within bounds of reason, they will direct you to PSS support if required. Cheers Ken From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, 5 April 2013 7:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Analysing process dumps Hi all I’m troubleshooting a runaway process on one of my Exchange 2010 CAS boxes, the CPU is getting hammered and the w3wp.exe process is the culprit. I’m creating process dumps, as I saw suggested on a forum, but is there any tool that can usefully analyse the output without me opening a case with Microsoft PSS? Many thanks Richard ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Set security on a symbolic link
Nice. Thanks for the post back. From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Set security on a symbolic link Quick follow-up, I was using icacls for another issue today and noticed it has a /L option that indicates that this operation is performed on a symbolic link itself versus its target. I was so close! -B From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Set security on a symbolic link Does anyone know of a command-line utility or other method for setting the NTFS security on a symbolic link to a file, and not what the link points to? Situation: Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 Hyper-V failover cluster, using CSVs for all storage (under C:\ClusterStorage) on our Equallogic SANs. Had a single virtual machine fail during live migration today, but rather than failing back to the original location, it attempted to fail to all allowed servers in the list, and then quit trying and stayed failed. After investigating, I saw the machine configuration was failed and wouldn't come online, and of course the vm would not show up using Hyper-V on any of the Host servers that I would move it to. After not seeing any cluster validation issues or other obvious anomalies, I did some digging and found this: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverhyperv/thread/135d1385-4b75-4737-80de-f8c517c25f8d/ And sure enough, the symbolic link for that VM was missing from C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Hyper-V\Virtual Machines. I used the mklink command to successfully create the link, but the VM still wouldn't come online. I noticed the link I had created had a security lock symbol and the others didn't, so I started comparing the security of that link to the security of the links of other machines that were working. On the one I had created, it was missing the virtual machine account, which shows up as the GUID of the VM. Using icacls, I saw that it was in a format of NT VIRTUAL MACHINE\GUID-ID-NUMBER. The actual configuration file that the link pointed to under c:\clusterstorage DID have the correct virtual machine GUID listed on the security tab. So, I tried to use the explorer GUI to add the account, but no matter what format I used nor how I filtered, I couldn't get it to work. Finally, I used icacls to add it, which was successful, but didn't get rid of the lock. In looking, I found that icacls only added an explicit entry on the ACTUAL .xml file (under C:\ClusterStorage\Volumename\servername\virtual machines\GUID-ID-NUMBER.xml) and did NOT add the security to the symbolic link (under C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Hyper-V\Virtual Machines) that I had pointed it to. All of the other machine links that were working have the GUID, so I'm either missing the right syntax to add it using the GUI, or there is another tool out there to add them and I just couldn't find it. Ultimately, I deleted the vm from the cluster, deleted the config, recreated it, and reset the IP. We're up and running, and I think the issue with it not migrating may be related to something with this machine, but am still investigating that. But, I'd really like to know if there is a correct method for doing this, as I suspect setting the security on the link may have resolved the issue. Thanks for any ideas! Bonnie ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: I almost always agree with the Bruce
nice As long as we build systems that are vulnerable to the worst case, raising the average case won't make them more secure. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: I almost always agree with the Bruce And I do this time, too... http://www.darkreading.com/blog/240151108/on-security-awareness-training.html Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Space and Beyond:
Cool. Has me wondering if amateurs could tune in to the broadcasts from Voyager. Also, I'm not sure how much instruction it receives, but it seems like there could be some interesting hacking opportunities. How secure could 35 year old technology be? From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Space and Beyond: http://articles.latimes.com/2013/mar/20/science/la-sci-voyager-20130321 http://xkcd.com/1189/ Read them in any order :) Hope you enjoy... (Voyager has computers, in case you're wondering) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Space and Beyond:
Pretty fantastic stuff. Boggles the mind, really. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Space and Beyond: Undoubtedly... HAM's regularly communicate with nearer objects such as the ISS or the Shuttle. Even moon-bounce is doable at amateur levels. 11 billion miles away is a large distance... The sensitivity of our deep-space tracking antennas located around the world is truly amazing. The antennas must capture Voyager information from a signal so weak that the power striking the antenna is only 10 exponent -16 watts (1 part in 10 quadrillion). A modern-day electronic digital watch operates at a power level 20 billion times greater than this feeble level. http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/didyouknow.html -sc From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Space and Beyond: When I was a teenager and a ham radio operator we would have fun by tuning into Voyager and other transmissions. It was doable then even with hastily constructed directional antennas. If I remember correctly, the Voyager radio is about 25 watts. With good antennas, that is easily enough for EVM space, except during conjunctions. However, from 11 billion miles away, as SC says, that takes something with the sensitivity of the DSN. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Space and Beyond: The S/N ratio is such that you'd need access dishes the size/sensitivity of the Deep Space Network. So the real issue would be hacking the ground-stations to get access to the equipment... unless you have a global array of 30+ meter dishes lying around. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Network -sc From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Space and Beyond: Cool. Has me wondering if amateurs could tune in to the broadcasts from Voyager. Also, I'm not sure how much instruction it receives, but it seems like there could be some interesting hacking opportunities. How secure could 35 year old technology be? From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Space and Beyond: http://articles.latimes.com/2013/mar/20/science/la-sci-voyager-20130321 http://xkcd.com/1189/ Read them in any order :) Hope you enjoy... (Voyager has computers, in case you're wondering) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Running Powershell script as scheduled task fails with 0x1
Total guess coming :) It seems like -Command would be used when you just want to run a one liner by passing the command directly, but -File is used when you want to run a .ps1. That being said, I just did a quick test from cmd and all 3 of these are equivalent (at least when the ps1 contains get-process): Powershell c:\scripts\myscript.ps1 Powershell -file c:\scripts\myscript.ps1 Powershell -command c:\scripts\myscript.ps1 -Original Message- From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Running Powershell script as scheduled task fails with 0x1 On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: I thought it was -File c:\scripts\myscript.ps1. See, this is what's infuriating. Most of the examples I have found say you don't need -Command or -File. Some say -Command. Some say the 2 are equivalent. SIGH So I changed it to -File, and made sure the folder holding the script itself had no spaces in its name. And then it all started working ... I thought for sure I had tried it with -File as well, but maybe not. Anyways, it all seems good now. Thanks. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Running Powershell script as scheduled task fails with 0x1 I can't understand why my script is failing. I can run it from a Powershell prompt (I have to Run as administrator, because the script is deleting some files in a backup directory). But it works perfectly when I do it that way. But when I create a Scheduled Task to do it, it fails with 0x1. I create a Task, tell it to use an account with domain admin privileges. Tell it to run whether the user is logged on or not, and to run with highest privileges The action calls a program (C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\powershell.exe). In Add arguments, I have -Command C:\Scripts\myscript.ps1 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Running Powershell script as scheduled task fails with 0x1
And one more note: Powershell get-process Powershell -command get-process both dump the process list, but powershell -file get-process fails. -Original Message- From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Running Powershell script as scheduled task fails with 0x1 Total guess coming :) It seems like -Command would be used when you just want to run a one liner by passing the command directly, but -File is used when you want to run a .ps1. That being said, I just did a quick test from cmd and all 3 of these are equivalent (at least when the ps1 contains get-process): Powershell c:\scripts\myscript.ps1 Powershell -file c:\scripts\myscript.ps1 Powershell -command c:\scripts\myscript.ps1 -Original Message- From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Running Powershell script as scheduled task fails with 0x1 On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: I thought it was -File c:\scripts\myscript.ps1. See, this is what's infuriating. Most of the examples I have found say you don't need -Command or -File. Some say -Command. Some say the 2 are equivalent. SIGH So I changed it to -File, and made sure the folder holding the script itself had no spaces in its name. And then it all started working ... I thought for sure I had tried it with -File as well, but maybe not. Anyways, it all seems good now. Thanks. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Running Powershell script as scheduled task fails with 0x1 I can't understand why my script is failing. I can run it from a Powershell prompt (I have to Run as administrator, because the script is deleting some files in a backup directory). But it works perfectly when I do it that way. But when I create a Scheduled Task to do it, it fails with 0x1. I create a Task, tell it to use an account with domain admin privileges. Tell it to run whether the user is logged on or not, and to run with highest privileges The action calls a program (C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\powershell.exe). In Add arguments, I have -Command C:\Scripts\myscript.ps1 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT: MCM certification
Plus, it sounds like there's a fair bit of bureaucracy being paid for for that 135. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Andrew S. Baker Sent: 2/18/2013 5:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: MCM certification I doubt that they get 1000s of applications a year, who then would be ineligible or unwilling to meet the rest of the criteria ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM, ANDREW F OFALT afo...@psu.edumailto:afo...@psu.edu wrote: you guys did see these parts of the article, right? late June I paid the $135 application fee, they verified my MCSE/MCITP credentials submit my resume submit a current project summary doc I was accepted after Microsoft reviewed my application We coordinated a date/time for a phone interview to go over my application package A day or two after speaking with Ryan, I received an email stating that I had been accepted into the MCM Program and could schedule (and pay for) attending a session. Microsoft is probably cleaning up on the $135 application fee... Andy-0 - Original Message - Most college degrees are some multiple of the number in question -- usually 4x minimum. If people coming straight out of college can pass this test, or have the credentials for this level of work, then I could see your point. Again, Microsoft does not appear to be targeting this to ye ol' admin so, I'm not sure why the inability of ye ol' admin to get access to it is perceived as a negative. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Ray rz...@qwest.netmailto:rz...@qwest.net wrote: If it’s going to be competing with the cost of a college degree it’s crazy. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto: k...@adopenstatic.com ] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: MCM certification I suppose one issue is that for every person that says “$20,000 is too much, it should be $10,000 and lots more people would do it”, there’s another person that will say “$10,000 is too much, it should be $5,000 and lots more people would do it”, and so on. Cheers Ken From: Christopher Bodnar [ mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com ] Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013 7:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: MCM certification Don't want to keep on this thread, it's obvious that most of you are in disagreement with me. I'm OK with that. But to your comment: I think I get who the certification is targeting. My point is that I think there is a larger population out there that might be interested in and possibly be valid candidates for, this certification in mid sized shops, but the cost is prohibitive. And I understand that there has to be a fee for this. And I even agree that MS isn't really making money off this. But just doing some basic numbers (I may be way off on these figures so don't crucify me on this). If there are 4 sessions a year in any given track (SQL, Messaging, DS, etc...)That's 100 people that need to pay for the course. Thats' $1.4milliion. Even say they cut this in half, they would only be reducing their revenue by $750K per track. In terms of MS, that is peanuts. This is not a revenue stream for MS, they are just trying to recoup some of the costs. But this would open it up to a much larger pool of potential candidates. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459tel:610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com From: Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 02/14/2013 02:59 PM Subject: Re: OT: MCM certification Chris, if you look at who that certification is targeting, the ROI is very, very straightforward. Lowering the price wouldn't lower the barrier that much, and the cost of the overall process must come from somewhere. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: Was reading this yesterday: http://blogs.metcorpconsulting.com/tech/?p=1101 And got to thinking about this again. It still bothers me that the road to this certification is artificially blocked by monetary constraints. I think the certification is difficult
RE: Petition Requesting Microsoft to Renew Forefront TMG
+1 Sent from my Windows Phone From: Michael B. Smith Sent: 2/16/2013 5:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Petition Requesting Microsoft to Renew Forefront TMG It would be great if a few hundred of you would sign this petition asking for Microsoft to restore Forefront TMG. http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-corp-renew-forefront-tmg-development Thank you! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Backup to cloud?
FTFY From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 7:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup to cloud? But I read it on the InternetCloud...! Bonjour... Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup to cloud? Let's not get carried away with calling this proposal 'cloud backup'. IMHO you're offering offsite backup. For something to be cloud you should look at NIST (or similar definitions), which include elements like rapid elasticity, user self-service, broad network access and measured service: http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-145/SP800-145.pdf Cheers Ken From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2013 5:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup to cloud? Yes, DR. Their Internet connection download is 10MBps, the size of their backups is 400+GB total, the smallest being Exchange DB @ 50GB, and if I am restoring their SBS VM it's 350GB plus another 200GB for their SQL VM. If could get the liability sorted, it would be far easier to have it backup to my shop, and recovery would be a matter of me bringing in the drive with the backups. I have unlimited space at my web host so I could back up to that but still the download from there -- my lab (25MBps) is 10+ hours. I have their local backups going to two places onsite (a RAID1 USB 3.0 drive + their other non-hyper-V capable server), my concern is building-wide DR need, kind of goes along with my spare server conversation a couple weeks ago. Very unlikely yes, but I still feel the not covered from that angle twinge. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup to cloud? Why would retrieval take that long? Are you talking more about disaster recovery? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup to cloud? Does backup to cloud even matter if the time to retrieve it spans 20+ hours? If I were to consider hosting a clients' backups at my location, where do I go to find what liabilities I need to worry about. Coincidentally the client in mind is a law firm of all places... David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
RE: OT: MCM certification
Start the calculation one step further back. Maybe it costs 2.8 million to run those 4 sessions per year for them to break even. In an attempt to lower the bar, they’ve already cut the cost in half and eaten the 1.4 million. If so, they’ve chosen a pretty fair split – MS pays half; candidate pays half. My point is that unless it’s free, there’s always more they can do to lower the bar…to the point of paying for lost wages and flights and hotel for anyone that wants to take the training. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: MCM certification Don't want to keep on this thread, it's obvious that most of you are in disagreement with me. I'm OK with that. But to your comment: I think I get who the certification is targeting. My point is that I think there is a larger population out there that might be interested in and possibly be valid candidates for, this certification in mid sized shops, but the cost is prohibitive. And I understand that there has to be a fee for this. And I even agree that MS isn't really making money off this. But just doing some basic numbers (I may be way off on these figures so don't crucify me on this). If there are 4 sessions a year in any given track (SQL, Messaging, DS, etc...)That's 100 people that need to pay for the course. Thats' $1.4milliion. Even say they cut this in half, they would only be reducing their revenue by $750K per track. In terms of MS, that is peanuts. This is not a revenue stream for MS, they are just trying to recoup some of the costs. But this would open it up to a much larger pool of potential candidates. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: [cid:image001.jpg@01CE0AD0.7B5B9D40] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ From:Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:02/14/2013 02:59 PM Subject:Re: OT: MCM certification Chris, if you look at who that certification is targeting, the ROI is very, very straightforward. Lowering the price wouldn't lower the barrier that much, and the cost of the overall process must come from somewhere. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: Was reading this yesterday: http://blogs.metcorpconsulting.com/tech/?p=1101 And got to thinking about this again. It still bothers me that the road to this certification is artificially blocked by monetary constraints. I think the certification is difficult enough without adding that as a factor to reduce the overall numbers just to increase the value of this certification. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I know I wont' even consider this certification, just based on the cost. Not that I think I would pass, or that I even think I'm ready for something like this. I don't work for MS and I'm not a consultant. Which from what I've seen are the 2 primary groups of people seeking this certification. My employer would never consider this strictly based on cost and ROI. Anyone else of the same opinion? Or am I way off base here? Chris - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~
RE: Security Firm Bit9 Hacked, Used to Spread Malware
You could interpret that sentence two ways: A: We didn’t have it installed on the compromised systems. B: It was installed, but did not protect them. B says the software doesn’t work. A says there was simply a mistake made. Phrasing it like they did, allows B to be true, while implying A. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 9:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Security Firm Bit9 Hacked, Used to Spread Malware The company said attackers managed to compromise some of Bit9′s systems that were not protected by the company’s own software. And this was because of... ? ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.commailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: Bit9, a company that provides software and network security services to the U.S. government and at least 30 Fortune 100 firms, has suffered an electronic compromise that cuts to the core of its business: helping clients distinguish known safe files from computer viruses and other malicious software. OUCH ! More at: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/02/security-firm-bit9-hacked-used-to-spread-malware/ Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Passsword Meter
Yeah, I'm not too crazy about it, but its not like you put a username in to match. -Original Message- From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 5:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Passsword Meter it says that mine, qwerty123 is not very good... odd that... or what a great way to collect passwords... - Sub ubi semper ubi On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: If you don't mind typing your password into a web form, this is a pretty nice indicator of strength. http://www.passwordmeter.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Passsword Meter
True. Like I said, I'm not real crazy about it, but it is a nice interface and could be useful to some. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 6:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Passsword Meter It's not like they won't grab IP info... Plus, are you *sure* your browser is not giving away username info? ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: Yeah, I'm not too crazy about it, but its not like you put a username in to match. -Original Message- From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.commailto:powe...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 5:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Passsword Meter it says that mine, qwerty123 is not very good... odd that... or what a great way to collect passwords... - Sub ubi semper ubi On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: If you don't mind typing your password into a web form, this is a pretty nice indicator of strength. http://www.passwordmeter.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dell windows 8 COA
The windows 8 PRO discs we get from MS as part of our enterprise agreement come with their own product key. I've used one to do a clean install on a dell ultrabook that came with windows 8 HOME. It automatically used the key embedded in bios and installed as home, not pro. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ben Scott Sent: 2/4/2013 7:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell windows 8 COA On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk wrote: Although the desktops have a bronze sticker on the back with the windows flag and the words windows 8 I cant find a COA sticker with a key anywhere on the machine inside, outside , top bottom A unique, unit-specific code is embedded in the firmware (ACPI BIOS). You don't get a Certificate of Authenticity or Product Ley. Microsoft is encouraging their large OEMs (like Dell) to do this. Toshiba laptop I just bought is the same way. Keywords: OA 3.0 SLP, OA = OEM Activation, SLP = System Locked Pre-Installation I've seen claims that if the motherboard is replaced, the OEM is supposed to provide a printed card with a new Product Key, to allow the existing install to continue to be used. Haven't confirmed that with a reliable source yet. I don't know what happens if you try to use a generic OEM disc to do a clean install (i.e., without vendor shovelware) in such cases. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dell windows 8 COA
It's not an enterprise disc. It's the pro discs for work-at-home rights. My point is there's never a prompt to use the key that comes with the disc. It just uses the one built into the bios and licenses the OS accordingly. It was basically a response to Ben's question about a clean install. The long and short of it is that it can be used to do a clean install. From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell windows 8 COA This might be due to the fact that Windows 8 Enterprise is not a valid upgrade from Home edition. Tim From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 8:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell windows 8 COA The windows 8 PRO discs we get from MS as part of our enterprise agreement come with their own product key. I've used one to do a clean install on a dell ultrabook that came with windows 8 HOME. It automatically used the key embedded in bios and installed as home, not pro. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ben Scott Sent: 2/4/2013 7:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell windows 8 COA On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.ukmailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk wrote: Although the desktops have a bronze sticker on the back with the windows flag and the words windows 8 I cant find a COA sticker with a key anywhere on the machine inside, outside , top bottom A unique, unit-specific code is embedded in the firmware (ACPI BIOS). You don't get a Certificate of Authenticity or Product Ley. Microsoft is encouraging their large OEMs (like Dell) to do this. Toshiba laptop I just bought is the same way. Keywords: OA 3.0 SLP, OA = OEM Activation, SLP = System Locked Pre-Installation I've seen claims that if the motherboard is replaced, the OEM is supposed to provide a printed card with a new Product Key, to allow the existing install to continue to be used. Haven't confirmed that with a reliable source yet. I don't know what happens if you try to use a generic OEM disc to do a clean install (i.e., without vendor shovelware) in such cases. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Robocopy reliability
Would be tough to verify terabytes of data didn't have any errors ;) From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability Yeah I have to agree, never had a problem with Robocopy and the mirror command or any of the switches and done terabytes of data copies with this utility. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. [Description: Description: Lifespan] From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 2:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability Alluding, but I digress :) I believe he is misinformed. I have *never* seen that. Sounds more like something he heard through a grapevine vs. experienced directly. I'd wager if pressed for details on this opinion he will be short on specifics. Don't trust pneumatic tires, they all leak, I know this because my friend's mother's teacher had a flat once... From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 10:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Robocopy reliability So his reliability comment was directed more toward robocopy utility itself. Eluding to the fact that he's seen robocopy copy files that turned out to be not the same as the original. We're not doing anything complex. We want to copy some files from source control and catch deleted files at the same time. So instead of deleting the entire destination folder and copying new files from source control. I'm saying it's as simple as robocopy /mir and that's it. That way whatever file is removed from source control will get removed on the destination servers as well. On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.commailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote: I've used it many times for file migration moves and even for permissions copies. Just this past weekend I migrated a pretty complex old Windows 2008 server shared to Windows 2008 R2 this past weekend. I didn't copy permissions since they were a mess. The only errors I've seen were my own, usually syntax or spelling. What are you trying to do? From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.commailto:tigr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Robocopy reliability Having a discussion with the boss on how we should do something I suggested robocopy. His reply was a strict NO. Reasoning was that it's not reliable. He said I've seen it break. So my question is have you seen it break? Is robocopy any more or less reliable than built in copy? I did point out that robocopy is built in to windows as well at least for Windows7. Didn't seem to help. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Robocopy reliability
I thought you had bat for that. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 2:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Robocopy reliability Not nearly as flexible. Try to use COPY to copy only the new files of a multi GB/TB share... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Tigran K tigr...@gmail.commailto:tigr...@gmail.com wrote: He was saying we should use just plain old copy. -T On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: I have never had a problem with Robocopy. It did exactly what I told it to do and gave me detailed information on what it did. I could not ask for more from a command line copy utility. I'm sensing that your Boss has a bias, perhaps due to a bad experience he had previously. If so, what does _he_ recommend? Maybe he has some awesome software I've never heard of. (It wouldn't be the first time!) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.commailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 09:08:33 -0800 Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability I've used it many times for file migration moves and even for permissions copies. Just this past weekend I migrated a pretty complex old Windows 2008 server shared to Windows 2008 R2 this past weekend. I didn't copy permissions since they were a mess. The only errors I've seen were my own, usually syntax or spelling. What are you trying to do? From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.commailto:tigr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Robocopy reliability Having a discussion with the boss on how we should do something I suggested robocopy. His reply was a strict NO. Reasoning was that it's not reliable. He said I've seen it break. So my question is have you seen it break? Is robocopy any more or less reliable than built in copy? I did point out that robocopy is built in to windows as well at least for Windows7. Didn't seem to help. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Robocopy reliability
And I think I need to trademark your new slogan: There's a bat for that. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 2:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Robocopy reliability Not nearly as flexible. Try to use COPY to copy only the new files of a multi GB/TB share... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Tigran K tigr...@gmail.commailto:tigr...@gmail.com wrote: He was saying we should use just plain old copy. -T On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: I have never had a problem with Robocopy. It did exactly what I told it to do and gave me detailed information on what it did. I could not ask for more from a command line copy utility. I'm sensing that your Boss has a bias, perhaps due to a bad experience he had previously. If so, what does _he_ recommend? Maybe he has some awesome software I've never heard of. (It wouldn't be the first time!) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.commailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 09:08:33 -0800 Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability I've used it many times for file migration moves and even for permissions copies. Just this past weekend I migrated a pretty complex old Windows 2008 server shared to Windows 2008 R2 this past weekend. I didn't copy permissions since they were a mess. The only errors I've seen were my own, usually syntax or spelling. What are you trying to do? From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.commailto:tigr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Robocopy reliability Having a discussion with the boss on how we should do something I suggested robocopy. His reply was a strict NO. Reasoning was that it's not reliable. He said I've seen it break. So my question is have you seen it break? Is robocopy any more or less reliable than built in copy? I did point out that robocopy is built in to windows as well at least for Windows7. Didn't seem to help. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Robocopy reliability
Really? I musta missed it then. Of course, I've always known there was a bat. I just never heard it stated like that. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 4:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability You are new around here aren't you? :) He's been saying that since at least 1998 or 1999... From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 5:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability And I think I need to trademark your new slogan: There's a bat for that. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 2:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Robocopy reliability Not nearly as flexible. Try to use COPY to copy only the new files of a multi GB/TB share... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Tigran K tigr...@gmail.commailto:tigr...@gmail.com wrote: He was saying we should use just plain old copy. -T On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: I have never had a problem with Robocopy. It did exactly what I told it to do and gave me detailed information on what it did. I could not ask for more from a command line copy utility. I'm sensing that your Boss has a bias, perhaps due to a bad experience he had previously. If so, what does _he_ recommend? Maybe he has some awesome software I've never heard of. (It wouldn't be the first time!) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.commailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 09:08:33 -0800 Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability I've used it many times for file migration moves and even for permissions copies. Just this past weekend I migrated a pretty complex old Windows 2008 server shared to Windows 2008 R2 this past weekend. I didn't copy permissions since they were a mess. The only errors I've seen were my own, usually syntax or spelling. What are you trying to do? From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.commailto:tigr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Robocopy reliability Having a discussion with the boss on how we should do something I suggested robocopy. His reply was a strict NO. Reasoning was that it's not reliable. He said I've seen it break. So my question is have you seen it break? Is robocopy any more or less reliable than built in copy? I did point out that robocopy is built in to windows as well at least for Windows7. Didn't seem to help. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage
RE: Robocopy reliability
Was kidding more than anything, but to take it to a slightly more serious level, you'd need a different utility to check the work of the first. If you don't trust robocopy to accurately copy files, why would you trust it to verify itself? Ideally, you'd want a different OS to do the verifying. Heck, to be sure, you'd want to check the platters inside a different drive. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 4:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability There is a switch for that. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability Would be tough to verify terabytes of data didn't have any errors ;) From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability Yeah I have to agree, never had a problem with Robocopy and the mirror command or any of the switches and done terabytes of data copies with this utility. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. [Description: Description: Lifespan] From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 2:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability Alluding, but I digress :) I believe he is misinformed. I have *never* seen that. Sounds more like something he heard through a grapevine vs. experienced directly. I'd wager if pressed for details on this opinion he will be short on specifics. Don't trust pneumatic tires, they all leak, I know this because my friend's mother's teacher had a flat once... From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 10:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Robocopy reliability So his reliability comment was directed more toward robocopy utility itself. Eluding to the fact that he's seen robocopy copy files that turned out to be not the same as the original. We're not doing anything complex. We want to copy some files from source control and catch deleted files at the same time. So instead of deleting the entire destination folder and copying new files from source control. I'm saying it's as simple as robocopy /mir and that's it. That way whatever file is removed from source control will get removed on the destination servers as well. On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.commailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote: I've used it many times for file migration moves and even for permissions copies. Just this past weekend I migrated a pretty complex old Windows 2008 server shared to Windows 2008 R2 this past weekend. I didn't copy permissions since they were a mess. The only errors I've seen were my own, usually syntax or spelling. What are you trying to do? From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.commailto:tigr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Robocopy reliability Having a discussion with the boss on how we should do something I suggested robocopy. His reply was a strict NO. Reasoning was that it's not reliable. He said I've seen it break. So my question is have you seen it break? Is robocopy any more or less reliable than built in copy? I did point out that robocopy is built in to windows as well at least for Windows7. Didn't seem to help. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here
RE: Robocopy reliability
I meant that uses only COPY as stated in your challenge :) From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 5:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Robocopy reliability Yes, I do -- several, in fact. A few use XCOPY, but most use ROBOCOPY, and a few let you choose with a config file. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I thought you had bat for that. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 2:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Robocopy reliability Not nearly as flexible. Try to use COPY to copy only the new files of a multi GB/TB share... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Tigran K tigr...@gmail.commailto:tigr...@gmail.com wrote: He was saying we should use just plain old copy. -T On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: I have never had a problem with Robocopy. It did exactly what I told it to do and gave me detailed information on what it did. I could not ask for more from a command line copy utility. I'm sensing that your Boss has a bias, perhaps due to a bad experience he had previously. If so, what does _he_ recommend? Maybe he has some awesome software I've never heard of. (It wouldn't be the first time!) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.commailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 09:08:33 -0800 Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability I've used it many times for file migration moves and even for permissions copies. Just this past weekend I migrated a pretty complex old Windows 2008 server shared to Windows 2008 R2 this past weekend. I didn't copy permissions since they were a mess. The only errors I've seen were my own, usually syntax or spelling. What are you trying to do? From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.commailto:tigr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Robocopy reliability Having a discussion with the boss on how we should do something I suggested robocopy. His reply was a strict NO. Reasoning was that it's not reliable. He said I've seen it break. So my question is have you seen it break? Is robocopy any more or less reliable than built in copy? I did point out that robocopy is built in to windows as well at least for Windows7. Didn't seem to help. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
RE: Robocopy reliability
Might as well keep it native ☺ Correct the drive letters on the second line if
needed.
for /f delims=* %i in ('dir /s/b') do echo %~pi%~ni%~xi files.txt
for /f delims=* %i in (files.txt) do fc C:%i G:%i
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 5:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Robocopy reliability
Oh, gack.
That's what I get for doing this off the top of my head...
This is still off the top of my head, but this actually has a chance of working:
for /f %i in (dir /s /b g:\) do md5sum %i c:\batchfiles\output\out.txt
And this might be even cooler:
for /f in (robocopy \\server1\sharefile:///\\server1\share
\\server2\sharefile:///\\server2\share /e /copyall /fp /zb /mir ) do md5sum
%i c:\batchfiles\output\out.txt
but I don't know if that would work.
Kurt
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Kurt Buff
kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
Tough? No, if you know powershell, or can do some shell scripting.
Tedious? Oh, yes.
Powershell can calculate md5/sha1 hashes, and for batch files, md5sum.exe and
sha1sum.exe exist.
Something like this:
for /f in (dir /s /b g:\) do md5sum %i c:\batchfiles\output\out.txt
would get you started. Have to do proper quoting for names with spaces in them,
though.
The hardest part would be comparing the two lists - one from each machine,
especially with millions of files. You'd probably want to break it down into
directly-sized chunks.
Kurt
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Crawford, Scott
crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote:
Would be tough to verify terabytes of data didn’t have any errors ;)
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 1:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability
Yeah I have to agree, never had a problem with Robocopy and the mirror command
or any of the switches and done terabytes of data copies with this utility.
Z
Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
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From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 2:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Robocopy reliability
Alluding, but I digress ☺
I believe he is misinformed. I have *never* seen that. Sounds more like
something he heard through a grapevine vs. experienced directly. I’d wager if
pressed for details on this opinion he will be short on specifics.
“Don’t trust pneumatic tires, they all leak, I know this because my friend’s
mother’s teacher had a flat once…”
From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 10:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Robocopy reliability
So his reliability comment was directed more toward robocopy utility itself.
Eluding to the fact that he's seen robocopy copy files that turned out to be
not the same as the original.
We're not doing anything complex. We want to copy some files from source
control and catch deleted files at the same time. So instead of deleting the
entire destination folder and copying new files from source control. I'm saying
it's as simple as robocopy /mir and that's it. That way whatever file is
removed from source control will get removed on the destination servers as well.
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Tom Miller
tmil...@sfgtrust.commailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote:
I've used it many times for file migration moves and even for permissions
copies. Just this past weekend I migrated a pretty complex old Windows 2008
server shared to Windows 2008 R2 this past weekend. I didn't copy permissions
since they were a mess.
The only errors I've seen were my own, usually syntax or spelling.
What are you trying to do?
From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.commailto:tigr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Robocopy reliability
Having a discussion with the boss on how we should do something I suggested
robocopy. His reply was a strict NO. Reasoning was that it's not reliable. He
said I've seen it break.
So my question is have you seen it break? Is robocopy any more or less reliable
than built in copy? I did point out that robocopy is built in to windows as
well at least
RE: Where to get copies of my various documentation scripts
It's called an emoticon. If you turn your head to the left, it looks like a face with the semicolon being winking eyes, the hyphen as a nose, and the left parentheses as a smile. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Where to get copies of my various documentation scripts I want to see some of your early batch files J @ECHO OFF ECHO Hello, world! ;-) I must be missing something: What does the ;-) do in batch? Is that powerscript? I don't think it's bash... --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:34:04 -0800 Subject: Re: Where to get copies of my various documentation scripts On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I want to see some of your early batch files J @ECHO OFF ECHO Hello, world! ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: 2 TB disk size possible problem
Yes. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ben Scott Sent: 1/31/2013 7:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: 2 TB disk size possible problem On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: I have a raid 5 “disk” that is just under 2 TB. ... In Windows, it’s listed as a Basic disk, with MBR Partition style. You can convert from Basic to Dynamic with no data loss. But a Dynamic disk hosted on a disk with an MBR partition table is still limited to 2 TiB, no? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Replacement for SteadyState
I'm glad someone asked. I always assumed I was missing something. We've got lab computers for a couple thousand students and have any issues to speak of. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Brian Desmond Sent: 1/6/2013 3:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState I’ve worked at a lot of customers that use DeepFreeze and similar products and I’m not a huge fan of the concept in general. It makes the overall lifecycle maintenance of a desktop environment a heck of a lot more complicated. The question I always pose (and usually don’t get much of a response to), is “what problems/issues is DeepFreeze protecting you from that running as a local user wouldn’t solve?” Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 11:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState Not free, but we could not function at the school without DeepFreeze. From: Bambi J Saastad [mailto:bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Replacement for SteadyState Hello I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down. Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on reboot? TIA B ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VB Script help needed
Don't have it right off, but you basically just want to wrap this line in an if block CheckFolder oFSO.GetFolder(sSource) Something like: If oFSO.GetFolder(sSource) is not read only CheckFolder oFSO.GetFolder(sSource) End If That first line isn't correct syntax, but there should be a fairly easy way to check that property. From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VB Script help needed I found a VB script to check a folder and all its subfolders for files that are older than N days and either report how many files will get deleted if Active = True. The problem I have is that there is a hidden system folder inside of the folders that I am searching and I don't want to include that folder in this task. Here is a copy of the script. Anyone know how to accomplish this? This script will run on a Windows 2008 R2 Server. Const Active = False Const sSource = J:\FTP_Data Const MaxAge = 30 'days Const Recursive = True Checked = 0 Deleted = 0 Set oFSO = CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject) if active then verb = Deleting Else verb = Old file: CheckFolder oFSO.GetFolder(sSource) WScript.echo if Active then verb = file(s) deleted Else verb = file(s) would be deleted WScript.Echo Checked file(s) checked, Deleted verb Sub CheckFolder (oFldr) For Each oFile In oFldr.Files Checked = Checked + 1 If DateDiff(D, oFile.DateLastModified, Now()) MaxAge Then Deleted = Deleted + 1 WScript.Echo verb oFile.Path If Active Then oFile.Delete End If Next if not Recursive then Exit Sub For Each oSubfolder In oFldr.Subfolders CheckFolder(oSubfolder) Next End Sub ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: -1) All your passwords are belong to us
For quite a while ETrade was limited to 6 characters. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: -1) All your passwords are belong to us And I have seen applications that are financially based can fields can’t hold special characters, or numbers or sometimes more than 8 characters total (Poor development model and background data model) Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: -1) All your passwords are belong to us The real problem as I see it is that some organizations ignore case sensitivity, and some do not allow special characters. I won’t name the companies that I’m aware of in the investment and finance industries, but I know for a fact that they don’t care if your password is case sensitive, they will accept upper or lower case for an individual letter. M. Free From: Jonathan Linkmailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: (SCL: -1) All your passwords are belong to us 8 characters not including common names/words? On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:34 AM, HELP_PC g...@enter.itmailto:g...@enter.it wrote: They are talking about 8 chars pwd I use 12+ chars (Aa+numbers+special chars ) since many years Guido Elia HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE Da: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.commailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Inviato: lunedì 10 dicembre 2012 19.55 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: (SCL: -1) All your passwords are belong to us I don't know if you have seen this: http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/12/25-gpu-cluster-cracks-every-standard-windows-password-in-6-hours/ -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: -1) All your passwords are belong to us
The crazy thing is they were a new dot com so I would think legacy mainframes would have been at a minimum. Add to that the ability to ruin someone’s life financially and it was pretty shocking. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: -1) All your passwords are belong to us Yep, my point exactly, Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: -1) All your passwords are belong to us For quite a while ETrade was limited to 6 characters. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: -1) All your passwords are belong to us And I have seen applications that are financially based can fields can’t hold special characters, or numbers or sometimes more than 8 characters total (Poor development model and background data model) Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: -1) All your passwords are belong to us The real problem as I see it is that some organizations ignore case sensitivity, and some do not allow special characters. I won’t name the companies that I’m aware of in the investment and finance industries, but I know for a fact that they don’t care if your password is case sensitive, they will accept upper or lower case for an individual letter. M. Free From: Jonathan Linkmailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: (SCL: -1) All your passwords are belong to us 8 characters not including common names/words? On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:34 AM, HELP_PC g...@enter.itmailto:g...@enter.it wrote: They are talking about 8 chars pwd I use 12+ chars (Aa+numbers+special chars ) since many years Guido Elia HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE Da: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.commailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Inviato: lunedì 10 dicembre 2012 19.55 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: (SCL: -1) All your passwords are belong to us I don't know if you have seen this: http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/12/25-gpu-cluster-cracks-every-standard-windows-password-in-6-hours/ -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise
RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
Interesting. So, did it auto negotiate at 100mb? I thought cat5 would work at a gig, but just have a degraded signal resulting in dropped packets and interference. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a *CAT5* cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live Migration? Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential. Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM. Sigh. I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught the CAT5 marking. Off to the printer it goes. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012. No difference in the operation other than speed. The one that was off was smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster. The one that was up continued to run without me losing more than a few pings. It was sweet. :) Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it. We'll see how that goes. LOLThe one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too slow for me. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote: Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM's on it, think I'll try the migration tonight myself Dave From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's looks like all is well. I'm going to practice moving around some VMs using the new Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market... On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote: It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being handled by the guest VM's. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it requires any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc) then Hyper-V server isn't what your looking for. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459tel:610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CDD3D6.1739ABD0] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ From:David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:12/05/2012 01:48 PM Subject:RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789 It can be argued that if I'm going to change Hyper-V host OS then why not go to 2012. Next questionhow nervous should I be about the guests if on the host I go from full 2008 w/ Hyper-V as the host to 2012 Hyper-V (effectively server core). Seems pretty simple on the surface, am I overlooking anything obvious? I guess the fallback would be to reinstall the full 2008 R2 OS, as least protecting the VM's themselves is pretty straightforward. Time eater, but technically simple. Time for more research. Dave From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB And the Hyper-V version is free. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459tel:610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CDD3D6.1739ABD0] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ From:Mike Hoffman m...@drumbrae.netmailto:m...@drumbrae.net To:
RE: Win 7 wireless mapped drives
Might check this out. We had similar issues because the computers didn't have a DHCP lease when the drives were mapped so the mapping failed. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2459530 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 wireless mapped drives Yes, straight after logon. Wired connections are ok. I will do some testing with a gpupdate and also turn up GP logging and report back in a few days. Both very good ideas, tyvm. From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 wireless mapped drives Jim, I'm assuming that straight after logon they are not there? When using GP does a gpupdate cause the drives to appear? What about on a wired connection, does the fault still exist then? James. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012 4:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win 7 wireless mapped drives I have been fighting this off and on for some time. Time to reach out for some help. Win 7 wireless computers. We map drives for the students, a couple of shares and their MY Docs redirect is also mapped as a drive letter. Randomly, not all the time, but very frequently they fail to get all three drives. The VAST majority of the time it is the mapped shares. Their my docs mapped drive are fine for the most part. Event logs show the policy applying and show successful mapping of the drive. But they are not there. I have been through it all, enablelinkedconnections, wait for network, fastlogon off...everything that google and I can think of. Tried VBS scripting and GPP's. Mapping to DFS and straight to a server share make no difference. No change in behavior despite any of the adjustments I have made. Any ideas? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Anyone have an idea on this one
I'm betting everything works as expected from an elevated command prompt. -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one Already tried that, I turn off UAC it works. I am looking at the following now, http://www.serverintellect.com/support/windowsserver2008/2008-UAC.aspx Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one Start the application as an Administrator? runas for example or right click it... From: Ziots, Edward [ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 7:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one Sorry its Windows 2008 SP2 not R2 SP1. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone have an idea on this one All, I have a Windows 2008 R2 Sp1 server, in which even if I am local administrator rights and the Local Administrator has full control to the root of the drive, I can not save any files to the root of the drive. Is this something with UAC? Or otherwise? Please advise, I have even tried to re acl the drive with cacls d: /T /E /C /G administrators:F and still didn't work. Kinda of time sensitive, Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Anyone have an idea on this one
Right. Because you're the owner of the folder and therefore have explicit rights to it which trumps your (UAC removed) indirect rights granted by virtue of being in the administrators group. But, from an elevated command prompt, UAC has already be responded to so everything works peachily. -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one In general you can create a folder off the root and save there, but creating a file in the root itself takes special gymnastics. -Original Message- From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 7:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one I'm betting everything works as expected from an elevated command prompt. -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one Already tried that, I turn off UAC it works. I am looking at the following now, http://www.serverintellect.com/support/windowsserver2008/2008-UAC.aspx Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one Start the application as an Administrator? runas for example or right click it... From: Ziots, Edward [ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 7:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one Sorry its Windows 2008 SP2 not R2 SP1. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone have an idea on this one All, I have a Windows 2008 R2 Sp1 server, in which even if I am local administrator rights and the Local Administrator has full control to the root of the drive, I can not save any files to the root of the drive. Is this something with UAC? Or otherwise? Please advise, I have even tried to re acl the drive with cacls d: /T /E /C /G administrators:F and still didn't work. Kinda of time sensitive, Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Anyone have an idea on this one
:) -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one peachily I'll have to add that to my tech lingo.. -Original Message- From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 7:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one Right. Because you're the owner of the folder and therefore have explicit rights to it which trumps your (UAC removed) indirect rights granted by virtue of being in the administrators group. But, from an elevated command prompt, UAC has already be responded to so everything works peachily. -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one In general you can create a folder off the root and save there, but creating a file in the root itself takes special gymnastics. -Original Message- From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 7:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one I'm betting everything works as expected from an elevated command prompt. -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one Already tried that, I turn off UAC it works. I am looking at the following now, http://www.serverintellect.com/support/windowsserver2008/2008-UAC.aspx Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one Start the application as an Administrator? runas for example or right click it... From: Ziots, Edward [ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 7:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone have an idea on this one Sorry its Windows 2008 SP2 not R2 SP1. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone have an idea on this one All, I have a Windows 2008 R2 Sp1 server, in which even if I am local administrator rights and the Local Administrator has full control to the root of the drive, I can not save any files to the root of the drive. Is this something with UAC? Or otherwise? Please advise, I have even tried to re acl the drive with cacls d: /T /E /C /G administrators:F and still didn't work. Kinda of time sensitive, Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body
RE: [ISN] Virtual machine used to steal crypto keys from other VM on same server
So cool. From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 10:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Fwd: [ISN] Virtual machine used to steal crypto keys from other VM on same server I've long known something like this was going to happen. Kurt http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/11/crypto-keys-stolen-from-virtual-machine/ By Dan Goodin Ars Technica Nov 6 2012 Piercing a key defense found in cloud environments such as Amazon's EC2 service, scientists have devised a virtual machine that can extract private cryptographic keys stored on a separate virtual machine when it resides on the same piece of hardware. The technique, unveiled in a research paper published by computer scientists from the University of North Carolina, the University of Wisconsin, and RSA Laboratories, took several hours to recover the private key for a 4096-bit ElGamal-generated public key using the libgcrypt v.1.5.0 cryptographic library. The attack relied on side-channel analysis, in which attackers crack a private key by studying the electromagnetic emanations, data caches, or other manifestations of the targeted cryptographic system. One of the chief selling points of virtual machines is their ability to run a variety of tasks on a single computer rather than relying on a separate machine to run each one. Adding to the allure, engineers have long praised the ability of virtual machines to isolate separate tasks, so one can't eavesdrop or tamper with the other. Relying on fine-grained access control mechanisms that allow each task to run in its own secure environment, virtual machines have long been considered a safer alternative for cloud services that cater to the rigorous security requirements of multiple customers. In this paper, we present the development and application of a cross-VM side-channel attack in exactly such an environment, the scientists wrote. Like many attacks before, ours is an access-driven attack in which the attacker VM alternates execution with the victim VM and leverages processor caches to observe behavior of the victim. [...] __ Visit the InfoSec News Security Bookstore Best Selling Security Books and More! http://www.shopinfosecnews.org ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Powershell Tab Completion
Ahh, finally :) http://nivot.org/nivot2/post/2012/09/12/Emulating-Bash-GNU-Readline-with-PowerShell-30.aspx -Original Message- From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 7:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Powershell Tab Completion I'm looking for a way to improve Poweshell's tab completion to be more like Linux. My *nix experience is limited to VMWare 3.x and Extreme XOS, but I believe the behavior I'm about to describe may be more accurately described as Bash's. In any case, I'm going to refer to it as Linux for the purposes of this post :) Assume I've got the list of cmdlets below and want to run Get-MailboxImportRequestStatistics. In PS, I can type Get-Mail and start pressing tab, but I have to hit tab 13 times, looking for the appropriate command. But in Linux, I only need to type Get-Mail and when I press tab, it automatically completes up to Get-Mailbox, which is the point of ambiguity. Then I can tack on an I, press tab and it completes to the next point of ambiguity, namely Get-MailboxImportRequest. I tack on an S, press tab, and I'm done. All told, under Powershell, I need 21 keystrokes to complete the command. In Linux, I only need 13. I've seen a few different Powershell scripting environments, but I haven't been able to find one that handles tab completion the way Linux does. I've also seen info around modifying the TabExpansion function, but I've not seen a mod that implements what I'm looking for. Am I missing something out there or is what I'm wanting impossible? Get-MailboxAuditBypassAssociation Get-MailboxAutoReplyConfiguration Get-MailboxCalendarConfiguration Get-MailboxCalendarFolder Get-MailboxDatabase Get-MailboxDatabaseCopyStatus Get-MailboxExportRequest Get-MailboxExportRequestStatistics Get-MailboxFolder Get-MailboxFolderPermission Get-MailboxFolderStatistics Get-MailboxImportRequest Get-MailboxImportRequestStatistics Get-MailboxJunkEmailConfiguration Get-MailboxMessageConfiguration Get-MailboxPermission Get-MailboxRegionalConfiguration Get-MailboxRestoreRequest Get-MailboxRestoreRequestStatistics Get-MailboxSearch Get-MailboxServer Get-MailboxSpellingConfiguration Get-MailboxStatistics ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Powershell Tab Completion
Now they just need to finish it, but I'm pretty excited that its being worked on :) From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Powershell Tab Completion Nice find... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: Ahh, finally :) http://nivot.org/nivot2/post/2012/09/12/Emulating-Bash-GNU-Readline-with-PowerShell-30.aspx -Original Message- From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 7:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Powershell Tab Completion I'm looking for a way to improve Poweshell's tab completion to be more like Linux. My *nix experience is limited to VMWare 3.x and Extreme XOS, but I believe the behavior I'm about to describe may be more accurately described as Bash's. In any case, I'm going to refer to it as Linux for the purposes of this post :) Assume I've got the list of cmdlets below and want to run Get-MailboxImportRequestStatistics. In PS, I can type Get-Mail and start pressing tab, but I have to hit tab 13 times, looking for the appropriate command. But in Linux, I only need to type Get-Mail and when I press tab, it automatically completes up to Get-Mailbox, which is the point of ambiguity. Then I can tack on an I, press tab and it completes to the next point of ambiguity, namely Get-MailboxImportRequest. I tack on an S, press tab, and I'm done. All told, under Powershell, I need 21 keystrokes to complete the command. In Linux, I only need 13. I've seen a few different Powershell scripting environments, but I haven't been able to find one that handles tab completion the way Linux does. I've also seen info around modifying the TabExpansion function, but I've not seen a mod that implements what I'm looking for. Am I missing something out there or is what I'm wanting impossible? Get-MailboxAuditBypassAssociation Get-MailboxAutoReplyConfiguration Get-MailboxCalendarConfiguration Get-MailboxCalendarFolder Get-MailboxDatabase Get-MailboxDatabaseCopyStatus Get-MailboxExportRequest Get-MailboxExportRequestStatistics Get-MailboxFolder Get-MailboxFolderPermission Get-MailboxFolderStatistics Get-MailboxImportRequest Get-MailboxImportRequestStatistics Get-MailboxJunkEmailConfiguration Get-MailboxMessageConfiguration Get-MailboxPermission Get-MailboxRegionalConfiguration Get-MailboxRestoreRequest Get-MailboxRestoreRequestStatistics Get-MailboxSearch Get-MailboxServer Get-MailboxSpellingConfiguration Get-MailboxStatistics ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
FW: When Will We See Collisions for SHA-1?
Feed: Schneier on Security Posted on: Friday, October 05, 2012 1:25 PM Author: schneier Subject: When Will We See Collisions for SHA-1? On a NIST-sponsored hash function mailing listhttp://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/hash/email_list.html, Jesse Walker (from Intel; also a member of the Skeinhttp://www.schneier.com/skein.html team) did some back-of-the-envelope calculations to estimate how long it will be before we see a practical collision attack against SHA-1. I'm reprinting his analysis here, so it reaches a broader audience. According to E-BASHhttp://bench.cr.yp.to/ebash.html, the cost of one block of a SHA-1 operation on already deployed commodity microprocessors is about 214 cycles. If Stevens' attackhttp://2012.sharcs.org/slides/stevens.pdf of 260 SHA-1 operations serves as the baseline, then finding a collision costs about 214 * 260 ~ 274 cycles. A core today provides about 231 cycles/sec; the state of the art is 8 = 23 cores per processor for a total of 23 * 231 = 234 cycles/sec. A server typically has 4 processors, increasing the total to 22 * 234 = 236 cycles/sec. Since there are about 225 sec/year, this means one server delivers about 225 * 236 = 261 cycles per year, which we can call a server year. There is ample evidence that Moore's law will continue through the mid 2020s. Hence the number of doublings in processor power we can expect between now and 2021 is: 3/1.5 = 2 times by 2015 (3 = 2015 - 2012) 6/1.5 = 4 times by 2018 (6 = 2018 - 2012) 9/1.5 = 6 times by 2021 (9 = 2021 - 2012) So a commodity server year should be about: 261 cycles/year in 2012 22 * 261 = 263 cycles/year by 2015 24 * 261 = 265 cycles/year by 2018 26 * 261 = 267 cycles/year by 2021 Therefore, on commodity hardware, Stevens' attack should cost approximately: 274 / 261 = 213 server years in 2012 274 / 263 = 211 server years by 2015 274 / 265 = 29 server years by 2018 274 / 267 = 27 server years by 2021 Today Amazon rents compute time on commodity servers for about $0.04 / hour ~ $350 /year. Assume compute rental fees remain fixed while server capacity keeps pace with Moore's law. Then, since log2(350) ~ 8.4 the cost of the attack will be approximately: 213 * 28.4 = 221.4 ~ $2.77M in 2012 211 * 28.4 = 219.4 ~ $700K by 2015 29 * 28.4 = 217.4 ~ $173K by 2018 27 * 28.4 = 215.4 ~ $43K by 2021 A collision attack is therefore well within the range of what an organized crime syndicate can practically budget by 2018, and a university research project by 2021. Since this argument only takes into account commodity hardware and not instruction set improvements (e.g., ARM 8 specifies a SHA-1 instruction), other commodity computing devices with even greater processing power (e.g., GPUs), and custom hardware, the need to transition from SHA-1 for collision resistance functions is probably more urgent than this back-of-the-envelope analysis suggests. Any increase in the number of cores per CPU, or the number of CPUs per server, also affects these calculations. Also, any improvements in cryptanalysis will further reduce the complexity of this attack. The point is that we in the community need to start the migration away from SHA-1 and to SHA-2/SHA-3 now. View article...http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/10/when_will_we_se.html ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: My sons IT learning..
Very nice. All well stated. -Original Message- From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: My sons IT learning.. Not sure if you guys know this, but I wrote a whitepaper about whitelisting a little while ago. https://s3.amazonaws.com/knowbe4.cdn/Whitelisting_WhitePaper.pdf Have no product to sell you, and no dog in this fight, but I have been inside the AV world for a while :-) Stu -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 3:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: My sons IT learning.. Acquired by Trustwave this year. Interesting. On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: M86 Security. It has it's issues like everything, including me. But they do a super job of categorizing and staying on top of that. And that is the key. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 12:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: My sons IT learning.. That's where I want to land - no admin rights and really good perimeter filtering. Care to share what filter you use? Kurt On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: I should clarify, he asked not running any AV corporate wide. We don’t. 3500 desktops and no large events and very very few small ones. We have not seen and driveby malware in months. There were a lot of gasps in the room and plenty of questions for me. The key for us is no admin rights and a really strong web filter that I actually pay attention to and I patch like a fiend. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: My sons IT learning.. At Derbycon this weekend a speaker asked the room if there was anyone not running any AV. I was the only person to raise my hand. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: My sons IT learning.. I see that AV is flawed, because its fighting a losing race with modern malware, and some AV;s will catch things better than others, and all AV will miss more than we know simply because there isn’t a signature for the malware. Although compliance mandates still require AV on systems (PCI-DSS) so its still sticking around for a while. EZ Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: My sons IT learning.. Dump all reactive AV, I say, at least the realtime monitoring portions Read-only vDisks and application whitelisting combined will do the job nicely ---Blackberried From: Webster webs...@carlwebster.com Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:29:19 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: My sons IT learning.. “see, we need to dump McAfee” What is wrong with that conclusion? J Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Subject: RE: My sons IT learning.. Um….parts of this should be required viewing for all employees (wait, you’ve been saying THAT the entire time as well..). I like this Stu – it’s not new info to us sysadmins, but I’m certain end users would go “whoa…”. The one thing that might be inferred is that McAfee is flawed and some other AV might catch what McAfee is missing. I can see my IT guys jumping to that conclusion “see, we need to dump McAfee”. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~
RE: Spanning disks under server 2003 R2 on a SAN
I'd tend to be wary also, but I have done similar things. It's always worked ok, but it just seems a little sketchy and makes me nervous. What I've done lately instead is move some of the content to a different drive/lun and then mount that as a folder in the current namespace instead of a separate drive letter. For example, I had a drive (E:\) with two folders on it: Staff and Departments. When I ran into the 2TB limit, I moved the contents of Departments to a new drive and instead of a drive letter, I mounted it as E:\Departments. I don’t know that that’s any less sketchy, but I prefer it. I like that I still understand the underlying file structure, whereas with a spanned dynamic disk, I’m scared to touch it. You do have the limitation of maybe running out of room on part of the share, but still having plenty on another part. But, that also might be a blessing if you have some space hogs that impact other users. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Spanning disks under server 2003 R2 on a SAN All, I've got an EMC VNXe3100. and a Win2k3 R2 VM as a file server using several 4 LUNs on it for its disks. All of the LUNs currently are set up as Basic disks, not dynamic, but are formatted as GPT. However, one of them has hit the extremely frustrating 1.99tb iSCSI LUN size limit for the VNXe, and I need to expand this disk to accommodate growth. Since I can't span a Basic disk, I'm looking at creating 2x1.99tb LUNs, marking them as Dynamic and formatted as GPT, then spanning them. At that point, I'd copy off the data from the old partition, shuffle drive letters and then delete the old LUN. But, when he heard about it, my manager had a bit of a fit over this, saying that using spanned Dynamic disks was bad juju. I've done some research, and found this article: Best practices for using dynamic disks on Windows Server 2003-based computers http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816307 I don't see any particular problems with this approach - does anyone have contrary advice/experience? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: My sons IT learning..
Do the compliance mandates require an AV solution that uses black-listing? Why doesn't a white-listing solution qualify as AV? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: My sons IT learning.. I see that AV is flawed, because its fighting a losing race with modern malware, and some AV;s will catch things better than others, and all AV will miss more than we know simply because there isn't a signature for the malware. Although compliance mandates still require AV on systems (PCI-DSS) so its still sticking around for a while. EZ Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: My sons IT learning.. Dump all reactive AV, I say, at least the realtime monitoring portions Read-only vDisks and application whitelisting combined will do the job nicely ---Blackberried From: Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:29:19 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: My sons IT learning.. see, we need to dump McAfee What is wrong with that conclusion? :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Subject: RE: My sons IT learning.. Umparts of this should be required viewing for all employees (wait, you've been saying THAT the entire time as well..). I like this Stu - it's not new info to us sysadmins, but I'm certain end users would go whoa The one thing that might be inferred is that McAfee is flawed and some other AV might catch what McAfee is missing. I can see my IT guys jumping to that conclusion see, we need to dump McAfee. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OTish Dell DRAC default password.
Why would you want the default to change? The problem is not a standard default password. Heck, I'd prefer if the default password on everything was the same. The problem is people not changing it. I'd find it rather unlikely for someone to know what the DRAC is for, hook it up to an unsecured network and not change the password. From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OTish Dell DRAC default password. How long has that been the password? I think that is the same one they had on the 1st generation DRACs.sheesh From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]mailto:[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OTish Dell DRAC default password. Make sure you have changed it. https://www.trustedsec.com/september-2012/owning-dell-drac-awesome-hack/#more-1593 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - Computerworld
I knew that sounded familiar. ☺ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - Computerworld ♫ There's nothing I can really say I can't lie no more, I can't hide no more ♫ On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.commailto:sca...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231367/Hackers_exploit_new_IE_zero_day_vulnerability?source=rss_latest_contentutm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+computerworld%2Fnews%2Ffeed+%28Latest+from+Computerworld%29 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
Mary Jo Foley's take. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-axes-many-of-its-forefront-enterprise-security-products-704166/?s_cid=e550 Mostly the same stuff, but ya gotta love this line: If you're going to do a big product-family discontinuation that needs some air cover, there's no day better than an iPhone launch day From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it's not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
That's what I figured, but if UAG requires TMG, isn't it, by definition, an add on, and therefore would have no feature overlap? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it's not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
We're about waist deep in a migration to O365, so I'm not too upset about losing Forefront for Exchange and even if we stayed in-house, I like that its just built in in 2013. However, if we lose TMG and the accompanying website filtering capabilities, we're looking at a pretty big cost increase to re-add something like WebSense. I was quite happy when that functionality was added to TMG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Yeah, well, TMG and on-premises Forefront for Exchange are the biggest losses IMO. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Mary Jo Foley's take. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-axes-many-of-its-forefront-enterprise-security-products-704166/?s_cid=e550 Mostly the same stuff, but ya gotta love this line: If you're going to do a big product-family discontinuation that needs some air cover, there's no day better than an iPhone launch day From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it's not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body
RE: Password policy question
Great. Now, I have to add a new project :) -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Password policy question On the topic of secret question-based password reset, I will offer my article on password reset with Forefront Identity Manager: http://zetetic.net/blog/2012/9/4/secure-active-directory-password-reset-with-fim-2010-r2.html --Steve On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I'd also pay attention to how good the forgot password controls are. For instance I choose a totally fictional name for anything that asks for my mothers maiden name, kids' names, pets' names, etc. Its also worth checking how intertwined various accounts are - anyone who hacked my Google account for instance would have the capacity to get into a lot of other things. ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:44:50 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Password policy question http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/apple-amazon-mat-honan-hacking/ all and http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/mat-honan-data-recovery/all Not primarily password related, but it illustrates that teh intarwebs isn't a friendly place, and that security can't be shucked off. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Introduce him to something like Lastpass... And also point to him all the news articles for breaches, including the latest one for LinkedIn (he's on it, right?). On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote: I told him the other day that I have about 15 - 20 different passwords that I remember on a daily bases, he did not think that was possible, I think it's very important not to have the same login and password for everything, actually a sales guy just had his Linkedin, Yahoo accounts compromised and also his Aeroplan miles stolen. So I'm working on the President to add a few more variations on his password, we'll see. Anyhow for the rest of the company, I'm starting to enforce complex passwords. Stefan On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Because no doubt he's the most careful employee when it comes to password security :-) John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership for Strong Families From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 01:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Password policy question Thanks Jonathan, just needed to confirm, the President does not want to change his password, so I'll leave his as never expire. Stefan On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: That's correct, Never expire takes precedence. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote: Windows 2003 AD, if i turn on “Maximum password age in GP but a user have Password never expire set in Active Directory Users and Computers I assume that it will not affect that user, am I correct it that assumption? -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
Ahh. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes NO. Only single engine (basic) scanning is built into Exchange 2013 and the capabilities of the single engine and associated infrastructure are quite restricted when compared to FPE. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes We're about waist deep in a migration to O365, so I'm not too upset about losing Forefront for Exchange and even if we stayed in-house, I like that its just built in in 2013. However, if we lose TMG and the accompanying website filtering capabilities, we're looking at a pretty big cost increase to re-add something like WebSense. I was quite happy when that functionality was added to TMG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Yeah, well, TMG and on-premises Forefront for Exchange are the biggest losses IMO. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Mary Jo Foley's take. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-axes-many-of-its-forefront-enterprise-security-products-704166/?s_cid=e550 Mostly the same stuff, but ya gotta love this line: If you're going to do a big product-family discontinuation that needs some air cover, there's no day better than an iPhone launch day From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it's not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business
RE: IIS tricks
Several ways to accomplish this, but one way is to put a default.asp in the root folder that contains -snip-- % If Request.ServerVariables(HTTP_HOST) = http://hostname.mydomain.com; Then Response.Redirect (http://hostname.mydomain.com/thissite/page88;) End If If Request.ServerVariables(HTTP_HOST) = http://hostname2.mydomain.com; Then Response.Redirect (http://hostname.mydomain.com/othersite/page7;) End If % -snip-- You'll need to enable asp in IIS if its not already. I'm sure it's also possible to do in asp.net if that's enabled. You'll also want to make sure that default.asp is the first document returned by the website. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 2:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IIS tricks Is it possible for a single IIS7 server to host two web sites and have the following: http://hostname.mydomain.com auto-forward to http://hostname.mydomain.com/thissite/page88 -and- http://hostname2.mydomain.com auto-forward to http://hostname.mydomain.com/othersite/page7 The first one is easy enough, I am not sure I can ALSO do the 2nd one on the same server. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Oracle Quietly Releases Fix For Serious Java Security Bug
Look in %temp% -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Oracle Quietly Releases Fix For Serious Java Security Bug I have a roaming profile and am unable to find the files referenced at that site, grr -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Oracle Quietly Releases Fix For Serious Java Security Bug For those doing the silent installs I just tested this one and the silent install works fine. MSIEXEC /I jre1.7.0_07-c.msi /qn /norestart /log setup.log You can extract the .msi using the instructions from the following site: http://www.scriptingsimon.com/2010/10/installing-java-silently/ Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Oracle Quietly Releases Fix For Serious Java Security Bug http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/08/30/oracle-quietly-rele ases-fix-for-serious-java-security-bug-months-after-it-was-reported/ Dave -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 0 Day in Java 1.7 up to Version 6 http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2012-4681-18 35715.html?printOnly=1 Oracle Security Alert for CVE-2012-4681 Description This Security Alert addresses security issues CVE-2012-4681 (US-CERT Alert TA12-240A) and two other vulnerabilities affecting Java running in web browsers on desktops. These vulnerabilities are not applicable to Java running on servers or standalone Java desktop applications. They also do not affect Oracle server-based software. These vulnerabilities may be remotely exploitable without authentication, i.e., they may be exploited over a network without the need for a username and password. To be successfully exploited, an unsuspecting user running an affected release in a browser will need to visit a malicious web page that leverages this vulnerability. Successful exploits can impact the availability, integrity, and confidentiality of the user's system. In addition, this Security Alert includes a security-in-depth fix in the AWT subcomponent of the Java Runtime Environment. Due to the severity of these vulnerabilities, the public disclosure of technical details and the reported exploitation of CVE-2012-4681 in the wild, Oracle strongly recommends that customers apply the updates provided by this Security Alert as soon as possible. Supported Products Affected Security vulnerabilities addressed by this Security Alert affect the products listed in the categories below. Please click on the link in the Patch Availability column or in the Patch Availability Table to access the documentation for those patches. Affected product releases and versions: Java SE Patch Availability JDK and JRE 7 Update 6 and before Java SE JDK and JRE 6 Update 34 and before Java SE Patch Availability Table and Risk Matrix Java SE fixes in this Security Alert are cumulative; this latest update includes all fixes from previous Critical Patch Updates and Security Alerts. Patch Availability Table Product Group Risk Matrix Patch Availability and Installation Information Oracle Java SE Oracle JDK and JRE Risk Matrix Oracle Security Alert for CVE-2012-4681 My Oracle Support Note 1486726.1. Developers can download the latest Java SE JDK and JRE 7 and 6 releases fromhttp://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/ja vase/downloads/index.html. Users running Java SE with a browser can download the latest JRE 7 release fromhttp://java.com/. Users on the Windows platform can also use automatic updates to get the latest JRE 7 and 6 releases. Credit Statement The following people or organizations reported security vulnerabilities addressed by this Security Alert to Oracle: Adam Gowdiak of Security Explorations; and James Forshaw (tyranid) via TippingPoint. References Oracle Critical Patch Updates and Security Alerts main page [ Oracle Technology Network ] Oracle Critical Patch Updates and Security Alerts - Frequently Asked Questions [ CPU FAQ ] Risk Matrix definitions [ Risk Matrix Definitions ] Use of Common Vulnerability Scoring System (CVSS) by Oracle [ Oracle CVSS Scoring ] English text version of risk matrix [ Oracle Technology Network ] CVRF XML version of the risk matrix [ Oracle Technology Network ] Previous Security Advisories for Java SE and Java for Business Security Updates [ Java Sun Alerts Archive Page ] Modification History DateComments 2012-August-30 Rev 1. Initial Release Fire up the Patch Machine, its time again... Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +
RE: Recovering formatted drive
Sage advice. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Recovering formatted drive On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: Had a (l)user ask me which tool to use to recover data from a formatted partition. I told him from his backup! LOL. I guess there was none. I've used recuva in the past...any other good tools? Not sure if recuva does find data from reformatted partitions or not. First, before doing **ANYTHING** else, make a block-level copy of the physical disk to a file on another (bigger) filesystem. Under a nix, the command would be something like: dd if=/dev/sda of=/path/to/big/storage/disk_image_file.bin bs=32M if is input file, of is output file. Do **NOT** mix them up or it will overwrite the original disk with your empty file. bs sets the block size to 32 megabytes and is simply faster than the default of 512 bytes. You can do this using many Windows tool, too, but make sure you do a *block-level* copy. Do not use something which is aware of filesystems or partitions, as they will tend to optimize out any residual data. Block-level may also be called raw copy, forensic copy, sector-level copy, block-by-block copy. etc. Now you have a copy of the disk, in a file. Disconnect the original disk and store it safely. Ideally, do your trail attempts on a copy of the copy. For example, if you have a utility foo that runs natively, you might do this: cd /path/to/big/storage cp disk_image_file.bin testcopy.bin foo testcopy.bin If you have a utility that needs to run against a physical disk, write the test file out to a spare scratch disk and use that: dd if=/path/to/big/storage/disk_image_file.bin of=/dev/sdb bs=32M Again, do not mix up in vs out or you will overwrite the wrong thing. The reason you want to preserve the original in this way is so that if something goes wrong with a trial attempt, you have something to go back to, or even to send to a third-party service if need be. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!
Hmmm, a week after 2012 RTM'd. -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 3:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Looks like this (vRAM entitlement) will no longer be an issue. http://www.crn.com/news/cloud/240005840/vmware-kills-vram-licensing-will-fo cus-on-vsphere-cloud-bundles.htm Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ On 4/13/12 1:05 PM, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk wrote: OK one more thing: vSphere Essentials Plus gives you 6 socket licenses for vSphere Standard. Each license gives you 32gb of vRAM entitlement. 6 x 32 = 192gb vRAM across all three hosts. So 196gb per host seems slightly excessive (consider we can and occasionally do run around 50 VM's on one host with 144gb). From: David Mazzaccaro [david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! LOL Yes, that is per host.. and it is HP memory (hence the premium) -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! I'm a penny-pincher, and I saw a only one thing that really stuck out... 196 G RAM - this was $45k alone Ouch! Is that 196 Gig per computer, or total for the 3 servers? Even if it's 196 per computer, Crucial can get you that much ram for $8100... As long as I'm looking at the right memory. http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=ProLiant%20DL380%20G7 Cat=RAM 48GB Kit - ($899.99 each) * 3 for each server ($2699.97) * 3 servers = $8099.91 kiddingHey, I just saved you $36k! Can I get a commission for that? Sm:)e./kidding --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: David Mazzaccaro Subject: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Just got the ok to move forward with VMware/Citrix/Domain upgrade. I have 10 physical servers, and it looks like this will be the solution: 3 hosts: ($21k each) HP DL380 G7 E5660 Pair of 146 15k drives mirrored 196 G RAM - this was $45k alone Quad port gig adapter 2 Switches: ($1,800 each) HP 2910 1 SAN ($22,700) NetApp 2240 12 x 600GB VSphere Essentials Plus ($5,200) 6 Windows licenses ($13,600): Server 2008 Datacenter Windows/Xenapp licenses ($26,000) $40k services Install/config SAN, switches, hosts, VMware, new Citrix farm, 2008 Domain upgrade, P2V existing servers Total: $185,000 Sound good? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Offline/online detection
The problem is that it's hard to define logged on. You don't really log on to the network. You log on to a *computer* by authenticating against a domain controller. You probably want some way to check if you're connected to a network and can reach a domain controller. -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Offline/online detection What I am looking for is something - file, variable, reg key, etc. - that would indicate a computer wasn't (or was) logged on to the corporate network. You could use some sort of ping, but that would be no good if ping was blocked or the target that determines the online status was offline or unreachable for some reason. Hope I am making sense here, I am watching the England game as well as emailing away :-) ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:45:51 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Offline/online detection Not sure if this is what you are asking but I track logons with a logon script that writes to a csv file on a server share. You could modify it a bit and add a second script to track logoffs. It is the only thing I have found to be reliable. Then I have a scheduled task each night to rename 'log.csv' to today's date and recreate a new 'log.csv' for the next day. It gives me computername, username, ip and time. WARNING, very bad things happen if the server share becomes unavailable using my system. I would suggest using a couple of server shares and dfs them for fail over. strComputer = objNetwork.ComputerName Set objWMIService = GetObject( _ winmgmts:\\ strComputer \root\cimv2) Set IPConfigSet = objWMIService.ExecQuery _ (Select IPAddress from Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration ) For Each IPConfig in IPConfigSet If Not IsNull(IPConfig.IPAddress) Then For i=LBound(IPConfig.IPAddress) _ to UBound(IPConfig.IPAddress) strIPAddress = strIPAddress , IpConfig.IpAddress(i) Next End If Next strInfo = objNetwork.ComputerName , objNetwork.UserName , Date() , Time() , StrIPAddress SET objFSO = CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject) SET objOutputFile = objFSO.OpenTextFile(\\SERVER\Logs\log.csv, ForAppend, False) objOutputfile.writeline strInfo objFSO.Close -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Offline/online detection What's the best way to detect whether a user is offline or online (I.e. Connected to the corporate network)? I thought maybe query the %logonserver% variable but that might also apply to online situations where a DC cannot be contacted for whatever reason. I'm sure there must be a way, wondering if anyone has any ideas they can throw out? TIA, JR ---Blackberried ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Offline/online detection
Yeah, even if they logged in with cached credentials, they may be connected to the network now. You basically need to just check the availability of the service you want to use before using it. I have no idea how to do that with XenApp, but that's where I would look. Even if the DC is ping-able doesn't mean the XenApp server is available. -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Offline/online detection I've got someone using a program and they want to alter its behaviour based on whether the user is connected to the corporate network or not - specifically, whether the apps they will be using are XenApp offline streamed apps or delivered via the online plugin. Basically, is there any way to programatically tell whether the user is linked to the corporate network or not (besides simply checking the IP address, which could be fallible dependent on the IP range of the network they may be connected to) --Original Message-- From: Ben Scott To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Offline/online detection Sent: 15 Aug 2012 22:29 On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: What's the best way to detect whether a user is offline or online (I.e. Connected to the corporate network)? I suspect we need more context. What are you trying to accomplish? What's the end goal? What problem are you trying to solve? :-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ---Blackberried ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Powershell Tab Completion
I'm looking for a way to improve Poweshell's tab completion to be more like Linux. My *nix experience is limited to VMWare 3.x and Extreme XOS, but I believe the behavior I'm about to describe may be more accurately described as Bash's. In any case, I'm going to refer to it as Linux for the purposes of this post :) Assume I've got the list of cmdlets below and want to run Get-MailboxImportRequestStatistics. In PS, I can type Get-Mail and start pressing tab, but I have to hit tab 13 times, looking for the appropriate command. But in Linux, I only need to type Get-Mail and when I press tab, it automatically completes up to Get-Mailbox, which is the point of ambiguity. Then I can tack on an I, press tab and it completes to the next point of ambiguity, namely Get-MailboxImportRequest. I tack on an S, press tab, and I'm done. All told, under Powershell, I need 21 keystrokes to complete the command. In Linux, I only need 13. I've seen a few different Powershell scripting environments, but I haven't been able to find one that handles tab completion the way Linux does. I've also seen info around modifying the TabExpansion function, but I've not seen a mod that implements what I'm looking for. Am I missing something out there or is what I'm wanting impossible? Get-MailboxAuditBypassAssociation Get-MailboxAutoReplyConfiguration Get-MailboxCalendarConfiguration Get-MailboxCalendarFolder Get-MailboxDatabase Get-MailboxDatabaseCopyStatus Get-MailboxExportRequest Get-MailboxExportRequestStatistics Get-MailboxFolder Get-MailboxFolderPermission Get-MailboxFolderStatistics Get-MailboxImportRequest Get-MailboxImportRequestStatistics Get-MailboxJunkEmailConfiguration Get-MailboxMessageConfiguration Get-MailboxPermission Get-MailboxRegionalConfiguration Get-MailboxRestoreRequest Get-MailboxRestoreRequestStatistics Get-MailboxSearch Get-MailboxServer Get-MailboxSpellingConfiguration Get-MailboxStatistics ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Powershell Tab Completion
Not before you mentioned it. Having trouble getting it to load though. I'll keep digging. Thanks -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 7:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Powershell Tab Completion Have you looked at pscx? http://pscx.codeplex.com/ They may have the most configurable tab-expansion replacement available. -Original Message- From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 8:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Powershell Tab Completion I'm looking for a way to improve Poweshell's tab completion to be more like Linux. My *nix experience is limited to VMWare 3.x and Extreme XOS, but I believe the behavior I'm about to describe may be more accurately described as Bash's. In any case, I'm going to refer to it as Linux for the purposes of this post :) Assume I've got the list of cmdlets below and want to run Get-MailboxImportRequestStatistics. In PS, I can type Get-Mail and start pressing tab, but I have to hit tab 13 times, looking for the appropriate command. But in Linux, I only need to type Get-Mail and when I press tab, it automatically completes up to Get-Mailbox, which is the point of ambiguity. Then I can tack on an I, press tab and it completes to the next point of ambiguity, namely Get-MailboxImportRequest. I tack on an S, press tab, and I'm done. All told, under Powershell, I need 21 keystrokes to complete the command. In Linux, I only need 13. I've seen a few different Powershell scripting environments, but I haven't been able to find one that handles tab completion the way Linux does. I've also seen info around modifying the TabExpansion function, but I've not seen a mod that implements what I'm looking for. Am I missing something out there or is what I'm wanting impossible? Get-MailboxAuditBypassAssociation Get-MailboxAutoReplyConfiguration Get-MailboxCalendarConfiguration Get-MailboxCalendarFolder Get-MailboxDatabase Get-MailboxDatabaseCopyStatus Get-MailboxExportRequest Get-MailboxExportRequestStatistics Get-MailboxFolder Get-MailboxFolderPermission Get-MailboxFolderStatistics Get-MailboxImportRequest Get-MailboxImportRequestStatistics Get-MailboxJunkEmailConfiguration Get-MailboxMessageConfiguration Get-MailboxPermission Get-MailboxRegionalConfiguration Get-MailboxRestoreRequest Get-MailboxRestoreRequestStatistics Get-MailboxSearch Get-MailboxServer Get-MailboxSpellingConfiguration Get-MailboxStatistics ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Powershell Tab Completion
Excellent fodder, thanks. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 11:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Powershell Tab Completion On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: Assume I've got the list of cmdlets below and want to run Get-MailboxImportRequestStatistics. In PS, I can type Get-Mail and start pressing tab, but I have to hit tab 13 times, looking for the appropriate command. But in Linux, I only need to type Get-Mail and when I press tab, it automatically completes up to Get-Mailbox, which is the point of ambiguity. FYI: Bash and many other programs use the GNU readline library for their actual command prompt, and that's where most of the completion logic comes from. The behavior used by CMD and PoSh is termed menu completion by readline, or cyclic completion by Emacs. The default behavior used by readline -- completing any common prefix -- doesn't seem to have a proper name. I tell you this mainly to give you Google fodder. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Backup software
+1, but then again, I don't have and AIX. From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup software I am so happy we don't use backup exec anymore. We are using Microsoft Data Protection Manager and absolutely love it. I mean it, if it was a girl I'd ask her out to dinner. -Original Message- From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.ukmailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 1:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup software Hi Looking to change our backup software and are open to recommendations Our servers are a range of Windows 2000 2003 with Exchange 2003 and a couple of version of Microsoft Sql server 2000 and 2005 We were looking at Symantec backup exec These machine will have a dedicated backup server and an lto5 tape drive We will backup to disk and then to tape (we have a requirement for an off site tape backup so this must remain) The backup will easily fit on 1 lto 5 tape and with data volumes this should be ok for 2-3 years HOWEVER We also have 2 IBM AIX servers running version 4.3.3 and version 5.1 These will backup again to a dedicated server with an ultrium 5 tape drive The IBM servers cant be upgraded! Looking for a supported solution We looked at backupexec and netbackup however only Older an now none supported version will work with our Aix versions the new version may work but would be unsupported! (no good for us) Also they are charging quite a high premium for backing up to tape Suggestions are welcome especially first hand experiences If any software is available that will do the whole thing (backup windows and Aix) this would be an advantage and of course keep down the costs Currently we are using OPENBACKUP now unsupported and are looking at ARKEIA (a spin-off of openbackup or parallel version) Nigel Parker Systems Engineer Ultraframe (UK) Ltd Tel: 01200 452329 Fax: 01200 452201 Web: www.ultraframe.comhttp://www.ultraframe.com Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.ukmailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. The statements and opinions expressed in this email are my own and may not represent those of Ultraframe (UK) Ltd. This email is subject to copyright and the information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is sent out only for intended recipient(s). Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not an intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or other use or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and unlawful. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Kern Health Systems Confidentiality Statement: This email and any attachments are legally privileged and can contain business proprietary and/or confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. The authorized recipient of this information is prohibited from disclosing this information to any other party unless required to do so by law or regulation and is required to destroy the information after its stated need has been fulfilled. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of these documents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately and arrange for the return or destruction of these documents. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
Batch File Week
This is day 2 on Batch File Week on Raymond Chen's blog. Its shaping up to be interesting, if slightly old school. On other weeks, his blog is usually pretty interesting. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Where did my HD space go?
I think it's the opposite, actually. The windows system files are projections FROM winsxs. The problem with winsxs is that it contains all components for the OS plus every version ever released in a patch for uninstallation purposes. You can clean it up somewhat after a service pack by running: dism /online /cleanup-image /spsuperseded But, the bottom line is that manually modifying this folder is unsupported and generally frowned upon. Windows 8 and Server 2012 will include options for uninstalling components that you'll never need, thereby shrinking winsxs considerably. Lots more info on this blog: The Windows Servicing Guy http://blogs.technet.com/b/joscon/ How to reclaim space after applying Windows 7/2008 R2 Service Pack 1 http://blogs.technet.com/b/joscon/archive/2011/02/15/how-to-reclaim-space-after-applying-service-pack-1.aspx Should you delete files in the \WinSXS directory? And what's the deal with VSS? http://blogs.technet.com/b/joscon/archive/2010/08/06/should-you-delete-files-in-the-winsxs-directory-and-what-s-the-deal-with-vss.aspx -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Where did my HD space go? It's all links. Ignore it. -Original Message- From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 2:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Where did my HD space go? OMG I hate that directory. Joe Heaton ITB - Enterprise Server Support -Original Message- From: James R Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 11:01 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Where did my HD space go? What about the winsxs folder in %windir%? ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: David Lum david@nwea.org Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:52:51 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Where did my HD space go? Shadow copies? -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Where did my HD space go? Ok, I have a strange one. This is a 64 bit 2008 server with SP2. It is complaining about the C drive being full. The C drive is 98.5 GB in disk management and explorer. Both claim there is only 400 MB of free space. When I use windirstat to look at the drive and see where the space hog is, it shows only 23 GB of files on the drive. Shadow copies shows as disabled and there are no previous versions listed under the previous versions tab. I have emptied the recycle bin. Any ideas? Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad
Commodore didn’t have QBasic, but Commodore’s BASIC was very similar to GWBasic. ☺ From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad Can I just have my Commodore 64 with Qbasic back? I quit listening to “Gartner” along time ago…. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad Absolutely agree with that statement. Joe Heaton ITB – Enterprise Server Support From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:45 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad I daresay that when it comes to the expertise of those on this list within the context of computer knowledge and ability none of us would be classed as “consumer level.” Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com [Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160] From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]mailto:[mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad That doesn’t make those “consumer level” operating systems. Both those OSes were “intended” for business clients. Joe Heaton ITB – Enterprise Server Support From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:12 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gartner says Win8 is bad Huh. I ran NT4 Workstation, and especially Win2k, at home, in preference to Win9x. Kurt On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com wrote: Notice the list is only consumer-level desktop products. Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com [Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160] From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gartner says Win8 is bad Your pattern has lots of holes in it - namely those in-between SPs, and all of NT (3.1, 3.5, 3.51, 4, and all of the SPs - NT4 SP2, anyone?) On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com wrote: Bad = does not meet expectations Good = at least better than previous version if not more Dos 3.3 - good DOS 4.0 – bad DOS 5.0 - good Windows 3.0 - bad WfW 3.11 - good Windows 95 - bad Windows 98 w/sp3 - good Windows Millenium - bad WinXP w/SP3 – good Vista – bad Win7 – good Win8 - ? I see a pattern Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com [Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160] From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Gartner says Win8 is bad Don't they normally come out onside for MS? Strange http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/23/gartner_windows_8_review/http://wwwtheregister.co.uk/2012/07/23/gartner_windows_8_review/ -- http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER I certainly don't have time to monitor the content of e-mail sent and received via this account for the purposes of ensuring compliance with anyone's policies and procedures. I am pretty sure that somewhere in UK legislation there is some politically-correct drivel that stipulates I must never send or store e-mails or attachments that are obscene, indecent, sexist, racist, defamatory, abusive, in breach of copyright, encrypted, amusing, overly long, slightly opinionated, anonymous, likely to harm animals or hurt the feelings of an as-yet-unspecified or as-yet-nonexistent minority (such as extraterrestrial eggplants). Emails of this nature sent in or out of this account may be intercepted and stopped by the system, but it's a long shot. This being the UK, even if I was prosecuted for breach of said email guidelines, I'd probably walk with a suspended sentence anyway, but if I'd forgotten to pay my car insurance, I'd most certainly be hung, drawn and quartered. I am not responsible for any changes made to the message after it has been sent, in more or less the same way that cyclozine manufacturers aren't responsible for drug addicts mixing it with methadone and overdosing, so I'm glad I cleared the confusion up there nice and early. Where opinions are expressed, they are not necessarily mine. However, I don't make a habit of expressing other people's opinions for them, so you shouldn't take that statement as an indication that I am in the business of providing an opinion-expressing
RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad
Commodore BASIC, also known as PET BASIC, is the dialect of the BASIC programming languagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASIC_programming_language used in Commodore Internationalhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_International's 8-bithttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8-bit home computerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_computer line, stretching from the PEThttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_PET of 1977 to the C128http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_128 of 1985. The core was based on 6502http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_6502 Microsoft BASIChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_BASIC, and as such it shares most of the core code with other 6502 BASICs of the time, such as Applesoft BASIChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applesoft_BASIC. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gartner says Win8 is bad Was the BASIC on the C64 licensed from Microsoft? I can't remember. I know that the awesome BASIC on the Commodore Amiga was licensed from Microsoft, and it was much better than QBASIC. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: And licensed from MS. :) -sc From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad Commodore didn't have QBasic, but Commodore's BASIC was very similar to GWBasic. :) From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad Can I just have my Commodore 64 with Qbasic back? I quit listening to Gartner along time ago Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.govmailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad Absolutely agree with that statement. Joe Heaton ITB - Enterprise Server Support From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:45 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad I daresay that when it comes to the expertise of those on this list within the context of computer knowledge and ability none of us would be classed as consumer level. Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com [Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160] From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]mailto:[mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad That doesn't make those consumer level operating systems. Both those OSes were intended for business clients. Joe Heaton ITB - Enterprise Server Support From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:12 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gartner says Win8 is bad Huh. I ran NT4 Workstation, and especially Win2k, at home, in preference to Win9x. Kurt On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com wrote: Notice the list is only consumer-level desktop products. Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com [Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160] From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gartner says Win8 is bad Your pattern has lots of holes in it - namely those in-between SPs, and all of NT (3.1, 3.5, 3.51, 4, and all of the SPs - NT4 SP2, anyone?) On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com wrote: Bad = does not meet expectations Good = at least better than previous version if not more Dos 3.3 - good DOS 4.0 - bad DOS 5.0 - good Windows 3.0 - bad WfW 3.11 - good Windows 95 - bad Windows 98 w/sp3 - good Windows Millenium - bad WinXP w/SP3 - good Vista - bad Win7 - good Win8 - ? I see a pattern Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com [Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160] From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Gartner says Win8 is bad Don't they normally come out onside for MS? Strange http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/23/gartner_windows_8_review/http://wwwtheregister.co.uk/2012/07/23
RE: Children warned name of first pet should contain 8 characters and a digit
Unfortunately, we now have to make up different birth cities, maiden names, and pet names for different accounts. It would be nice if we could just make up a single unique word that would allow us to pass into each account. What should we call it? hmmm From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Children warned name of first pet should contain 8 characters and a digit And adding my reply: Unless it's an actual official form (School, Doctor's etc) it doesn't matter what you put down. I certainly didn't use my mother's maiden name for the phone/power/cable company. All that really matters is that it match when you tell them the answer. Yes, I was born in 'brownbox, ca' * Her maiden name was 'somethingelse' * My first pet's name was 'pinetree' * * Note, actual answers my vary from person to person and this is only a representitive sample. Please consult an IT professional or your nearest humour center if this is confusing. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2012/06/08/children-warned-name-of-first-pet-should-contain-8-characters-and-a-digit/ I'll cheat and copy my comments when I saw this in another forum: What's really hard is back-dating the legal documents to change your mother's maiden name. I love these systems that require an 8 character password, with upper/lower/digit/punctuation, changed every 90 days, but will also unlock given information available in the public record. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: No more SBS
Repeaters will just add latency. The speed of light is kinda fixed my friend :) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Rankin, James R Sent: 7/5/2012 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: No more SBS Couple of industrial-strength repeaters on the Moon should narrow it a bit ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel skra...@zetetic.net Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 16:13:54 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: No more SBS I wouldn't envy your ping times--ranging from about 6 to 45 minutes round trip... On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Agreed that redundancy needs to be addressed. With the uptick in severe weather, we almost need off-world backup. Either a manmade satellite, a space station, the moon, or even Mars, maybe all of them. I'd drop everything to go be a datacenter manager on Mars. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: No more SBS This is unfortunate thinking, given the poor uptime record for clouds in general, and it's worse when you consider connectivity issues as part of that equation. Kurt On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Microsoft assumes, as do a lot of others, that small business are the easiest to move to the cloud and actually get the most, immediate benefit. No need for on-premise hardware. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: No more SBS There will continue to be a SBS 2011 Essentials. But it doesn’t include SQL or Exchange. I disagree with their decision, as does every SBS MVP. :-P However, I see it as an ongoing “move to the Enterprise” for Microsoft. They are abandoning their small business roots. From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: No more SBS I don’t see the product in the environments I work in but Microsoft says no more SBS. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-goes-public-with-windows-server-2012-ve rsions-licensing-700341/ http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/B/4DB352D1-C610-466A-9AAF-E EF4F4CFFF27/WS2012_Licensing-Pricing_FAQ.pdf Q33. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard? No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard, which includes Exchange Server and Windows server component products, will be the final such Windows Server offering. This change is in response to small business market trends and behavior. The small business computing trends are moving in the direction of cloud computing for applications and services such as email, online back-up and line-of-business tools. 13 Q34. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business 2011 Premium Add-on? No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Premium Add-on, which includes SQL Server and Windows Server as component products, will be the final such Windows Server offering. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Upgrading DC's to 2K8
You'll want to read up on migrating certificate services then. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee126170(v=WS.10).aspx From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Upgrading DC's to 2K8 Noted! I would repeat the same cycle for the subdomain and then I would have: MYDOMAIN.LOCAL ML-DC01 (2008 R2) ML-DC02 (2003) ML-DC03 (2008 R2) SUBDOMAIN.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL SML-DC01 (2008 R2) SML-DC02 SML-DC03 (2008 R2) Does it make sense to cycle through and do the DC-02's so when complete it looks like the original, except all of them being 2008 R2? I'm thinking yes due to how much infrastructure points to those names and/or IP's. MYDOMAIN.LOCAL ML-DC01 (2008 R2) (same IP as original) ML-DC02 (2008 R2) (same IP as original) SUBDOMAIN.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL SML-DC01 (2008 R2) (same IP as original) SML-DC02 (2008 R2) (same IP as original) I do know ML-DC02 is a certificate server but I am largely certificate-illiterate, what special considerations do I have with that? This'll teach me to ask to be the lead on the newly formed AD team :) Dave From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Upgrading DC's to 2K8 3.5 remove server from domain From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Upgrading DC's to 2K8 Reality check: Empty forest root MYDOMAIN.LOCAL ML-DC01 ML-DC02 Then subdomain SUBDOMAIN.MYDOMAIN.LOCAL SML-DC01 SML-DC02 All are currently 2K3 DC's. Ideally I think we'd like to upgrade them to W2K8 DC's and keep the same name (we have a fair amount of LDAP-y stuff that looks at names). What about this plan for ML-DC01? 1. Create 2008 R2 DC ML-DC03 2. Move the FSMO/DHCP roles to ML-DC03 3. DCPROMO W2K3 ML-DC01 to member status 4. Build new 2008 R2 ML-DC01 with same name and IP, Make it a DC 5. Move FSMO roles back to ML-DC01 David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Wickr on corporate iPhones?
pro·pri·e·ty - noun, plural-ties 1. conformity to established standards of behavior, manners, etc. Maybe that's what they meant :) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ben Scott Sent: 6/28/2012 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Wickr on corporate iPhones? On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:43 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57462189-83/wickr-an-iphone-encryption-app-a-3-year-old-can-use/?tag=mncol;txt From the app page: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wickr/id528962154?ls=1mt=8 The security is based on a proprietary, patent pending, Digital Security Bubble(TM) (DSB) algorithm that combines military grade and propriety encryption algorithms and does not rely on a key distribution center (KDC). That sets off all my snake oil alarms. * Crypto which is brand-new and proprietary is by definition unproven * Crypto which is proprietary can't be reviewed and almost always proves to be broken * The phrase military grade applied to crypto is basically automatically bullsh!t * The crytpo the US military does use is never commercial proprietary Also, they spelled proprietary wrong. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain
I'm pretty excited about Window 8 To Go for these scenarios. -Original Message- From: hotmail_b243df4f33245...@live.com [mailto:hotmail_b243df4f33245...@live.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain BYOD isn't going to be a free for all. You bring your own laptop, but you'll access everything through VDI, or something else that keeps the company's system somewhat separate to your system. Windows RT is a differently kettle of fish IMHO - it's not an open platform. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2012 6:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: How many in your company can join systems to domain Think this was what I was referring to http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/brianmadden/archive/2012/04/30/the-real-reason-microsoft-windows-rt-devices-won-t-be-able-to-join-ad-domains-hint-ad-is-not-about-systems-management-anymore.aspx The issue is the session the user uses is domain-joined, not the device itself I am on holiday so haven't had time to read it properly and ensure it said what I was thinking about ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:22:04 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain I'm running way behind here, and some people may have already responded, but if he said that - well, I think it's just a crock. Domain membership provides a plethora of functionality. -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain Kind of makes it hard to use a GPO then, doesn't it? -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: How many in your company can join systems to domain Wasn't there a good piece posted a while back (maybe from Brian Madden) about how having domain-joined computers is no longer strictly necessary? ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:31:42 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: How many in your company can join systems to domain I have thought about this before...so I am going to toss it out there and see how it gets swatted down. If a staff member brings in a home laptop and joins it to the domain is it more of a threat or less of a threat than not being in the domain and just plugged into the network. I ask because here after they reboot they will get all the patches, up to date AV software and no-one except IT Staff will be a local admin. Most won't even be able to get to a command prompt. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Schema upgrade/rollback
the difference is he'd only have one dc online until he was sure which schema version he was using. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Rankin, James R Sent: 6/8/2012 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Schema upgrade/rollback Reverting to snapshot normally bad with DCs due to USN rollback. I've seen it done, but I wouldn't want to try my luck. A sandboxed test environment is the way to go. ---Blackberried From: David Lum david@nwea.org Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 19:32:14 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Schema upgrade/rollback In this day and age of VM’s, what would be the simplest way to test and possibly roll back a schema extension? Would this work? 1. Power down all DC’s 2. Snapshot schema master 3. Power up schema master 4. Extend schema 5. Smoke test a. If there are failures revert to snapshot b. If all checks out OK power up remaining DC’s David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Is there a way...
What are you expecting they'll have to change?
Interesting. I'll have to play with %0 a bit, but I don't think I've had
problems calling batch files from a UNC path that reference .exe in that same
path. Maybe it's an old limitation.
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is there a way...
Only the fact that whomever I send it to has to change it. Trivial for us, but
I'm betting someone will screw it up and call me :)
The %0\..\ is how you call an executable from a the same location as where the
batch file is running if the batch file has been called via UNC. Most commonly
seen in legacy logon batch files:
@echo off
%0\..\wkix.exe %0\..\Login.k2k
As long as these two files are in the same folder that the script was called
from, this will call WKIX.EXE and pass Login.k2k to WKIX.EXE. It won't care
what domain controller the system has logged in to.
Dave
From: Crawford, Scott
[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is there a way...
What don't you like about it? seems pretty straightforward to me.
What's the %0 trick, btw. As far as I know, that just returns the name of the
batch file.
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is there a way...
That does work. I don't like it, but it works (I need to distribute this batch
file, but this might work OK).
Dave
From: Ken Cornetet
[mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com]mailto:[mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is there a way...
What about
for /f tokens=1-5 %%d in ('%LOGONSERVER%\NETLOGON\FILEVER
%SystemRoot%\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash*.ocx /A /D') do set FLASHVER=%%g
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is there a way...
I need to figure out a way to make this work?
FILEVER.EXE is in \NETLOGON. If I map a drive it works (B: =
\\DC\netlogonfile:///\\DC\netlogon)
for /f tokens=1-5 %%d in ('B:\FILEVER
%SystemRoot%\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash*.ocx /A /D') do set FLASHVER=%%g
If I try and use the %0\..\ trick it does not
for /f tokens=1-5 %%d in ('%0\..\FILEVER
%SystemRoot%\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash*.ocx /A /D') do set FLASHVER=%%g
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RE: Redirecting front-to-back airflow in a server rack?
Probably even just switch the leads on the fan. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Redirecting front-to-back airflow in a server rack? On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Kramer, Jack jack.kra...@cabs.msu.edu wrote: We have several Dell 42u racks which we want to mount Juniper EX3200 ethernet switches in. ... However, that creates an airflow issue since now our switches will be exhausting hot air into the cold isle. Do the EX3200's generate enough heat for it to even matter? Does anyone know of a good way to redirect the airflow of these switches from front-to-back to back-to-front? I suppose you could take the power supply apart and manually turn the fan around. This would be labor-intensive and likely warranty-voiding, though. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 2008 won't forget IP
Tried searching for the IP in the registry? Might turn up a clue. From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 2008 won't forget IP No dupe on the other system. It seems to be OK with it up until a reboot, where it has the issue. All the event log errors I see are related to services, et al not being able to talk to the network. When on a different IP, the only place it shows up in the registry is: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\Nla\Cache\IntranetAuth\1.1.x.x.x.x - where x.x.x.x represent the IP in question. The values here are Failures and Successes. I did actually try wiping it out before to no avail (interestingly, it came back). The only thing I would know to do like that is kill the adapter and re-add it (what I did in the first place), which is what someone else suggested. I am able to workaround the issue by simply using a different IP, and I am OK doing that in this instance. It is worth noting that I did the same process with a nearly identical server and had no issue. I think I must have done something in a funky order the first time that caused the problem. From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 2008 won't forget IP Hm... and you're sure there isn't a dupe out there on another system? Very odd that it would go to an APIPA address, but that should show up in the event logs if it thinks it has a conflict. While you have it on a different IP, if you search via regedit for the desired IP, do you find it anywhere? I'm not familiar with VMWare, but if it were in Hyper-V, I'd maybe try to recreate the machine configuration after that, reattaching the vhds. Is something like that an option? From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 2008 won't forget IP That is the process I followed (shorthanded in my explanation). There is no NIC showing other than the current one. From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 2008 won't forget IP Run cmd as administrator set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1 devmgmt.msc When device manager launches toggle it to show hidden devices again. Look for NICs that don't belong and remove them. Reboot From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 11:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 2008 won't forget IP I wanted to upgrade the NIC on a vSphere based virtual server, so I powered down and removed the existing NIC and added a new one. The IP was statically assigned. After rebooting, I got rid of the old NIC (show hidden devices in Device Manager, uninstall), and I set the IP of the new NIC to match that of the old and reboot. After doing so, can't log into domain anymore and figure out IP is not responding. After much troubleshooting, I am able to get the machine working by changing the IP to something else via netsh (network control panel hangs). That's all working OK, reboot a couple of times, and confirm the old NIC is not a phantom. Change the IP back to the desired one again, and am able to ping it. Reboot, and same problem again (can't login to domain-based account, no response from IP). When I do an IPCONFIG, it shows a self-assigned address (169...). When I do a NETSH INTERFACE IP SHOW CONFIG, it shows my desired IP address (although it is not responding). I try to use netsh to change it to that address again and it rejects it (indicating it already exists). I assume the address is hung somewhere, but I can't find any sign of it in the registry or anywhere else. I also tried netsh int ip reset and netsh winsock reset (found while googling) to no avail. Basically, if I try to make this machine use the old/desired IP address, it will not work. Any other IP (that I have tested) works fine. It will work with the old IP until a reboot. Any clue what I might do to make this Windows 2008 R2 Server forget this old IP? Thanks, Bill Mayo ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
RE: Is there a way...
Its returning the 7th (%o) token at the end.
For /? has tons of good info. I'd take a working line, like the one I gave
you, study it against for /? and modify it to see what changes so you can get a
good understanding of what's going on.
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is there a way...
OK thanks. How is it not picking up the bytes or time instead?
From: Rankin, James R
[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is there a way...
Yes, The specified delimiter is an = sign. You can specify the delimiter or use
the default (is the default a space?)
You can echo the output out if you want to check what you're picking up
---Blackberried
From: David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 17:04:47 +
To: NT System Admin
Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
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Subject: RE: Is there a way...
The MAP-WS.txt is the data collection point
How the heck does that tokens line work? I get that it is stepping through the
Reply from 4.2.2.3: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=53 line, but how the hell is it
picking out the 5th entry and dropping off time= part? Is that what the
delims line is doing?
Dave
From: Crawford, Scott
[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is there a way...
Why are you using MAP-WS_Results.txt? Just as a data collection point or do you
possibly need more info from it later besides the 4 things you mention? If the
only thing you want at the end is your master list in a text file, I would
parse the data during each command. Something like this, maybe?
for /f tokens=1-5 %%i in ('FILEVER
%SystemRoot%\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash*.ocx') do set FlashVersion=%%m
for /f tokens=1-7 delims== %i in ('ping -n 1 4.2.2.3 ^| find /i reply') do
set PingTime=%o
echo %ComputerName%,%FlashVersion%,%PingTime%
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is there a way...
CMD only.
Sorry I should have included more info. The commands I am already running are:
FILEVER %SystemRoot%\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash*.ocx /A /D
b:\wsdata\MAP-WS_Results.txt
Echo. b:\wsdata\MAP-WS_Results.txt
ping -n 1 4.2.2.3 | find /i reply b:\wsdata\MAP-WS_Results.txt
So what you saw was the contents of MAP-WS_Results.txt.
Ultimately I'm looking to have say, 50 machines run that batch file and end up
with something like this in a .TXT/.CSV
***
Machine name, OS, Flash version, ping
JOEBOB-XP, Windows XP, 11.2.202.235,24ms
MARYLOUWIN7,Windows 7,10.0.1,23ms
***
From: Michael B. Smith
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is there a way...
BAT/CMD only? Or is PowerShell an option?
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is there a way...
In batch to take this output:
---
W32i DLL ENU11.2.202.235 shp flash32_11_2_202_235.ocx
Reply from 4.2.2.3: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=53
---
And end up with this in a .TXT file?
---
11.2.202.235 , 24ms
---
I'm wondering if a FOR loop can be leveraged?
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RE: Passphrases vs. password
I've not seen rainbow tables that work for passwords longer than 14 characters, and even that excludes a large chunk of the ASCII set. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Passphrases vs. password Might be a little better but honestly, if I can dump your hashes its only a matter of time before they are cracked using rainbow tables. Z Edward Ziots CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Passphrases vs. password I have no idea what you said. I'm guessing you're saying a 26-character passphrase is no better than a 12-character password? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Passphrases vs. password Dump hashes of the passwords/passphrases, run then through a rainbow table, game is still over. Either that or don't even crack the hash, just pass the hash and game is still over. Nice tool gsecdump gets a lot, and there are other tools that will allow you to pass the hash. Z Edward Ziots CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Passphrases vs. password My passphrases are properly formatted sentences. We use IM here internally a lot. On the plus side: If I inadvertently type Long passwords are stupid! into the wrong IM window it's not immediately obvious that the wrong window received the input, vs. say $eptember01 The downside: Some scanners scan-to-SMB will fail if the password is longer than 15 characters. Dumb. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Passphrases vs. password
Any idea how to calculate that? Even assuming we just use a-z,A-Z, and 0-9, we have 62 characters, so is a 15 char rainbow table 62 times the size of a 14 char one? I'd assume there's some relationship similar to that. Even if it's just double size for each character you add, the tables are not going to be storable once you start getting to the size of good passphrases. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Passphrases vs. password No, sorry. I should've clarified that. But they are available for purchase (or you can generate them yourself - that's not as ridiculously expensive in compute-time as it was even 5 years ago). From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Passphrases vs. password For longer than 14 characters? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Passphrases vs. password I've got a rainbow table set for all keyboard characters (US-standard keyboard). Sure, that leaves out a lot of ALT+whatevers, but getting a user to use those is unlikely. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Passphrases vs. password I've not seen rainbow tables that work for passwords longer than 14 characters, and even that excludes a large chunk of the ASCII set. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]mailto:[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Passphrases vs. password Might be a little better but honestly, if I can dump your hashes its only a matter of time before they are cracked using rainbow tables. Z Edward Ziots CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Passphrases vs. password I have no idea what you said. I'm guessing you're saying a 26-character passphrase is no better than a 12-character password? From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Passphrases vs. password Dump hashes of the passwords/passphrases, run then through a rainbow table, game is still over. Either that or don't even crack the hash, just pass the hash and game is still over. Nice tool gsecdump gets a lot, and there are other tools that will allow you to pass the hash. Z Edward Ziots CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Passphrases vs. password My passphrases are properly formatted sentences. We use IM here internally a lot. On the plus side: If I inadvertently type Long passwords are stupid! into the wrong IM window it's not immediately obvious that the wrong window received the input, vs. say $eptember01 The downside: Some scanners scan-to-SMB will fail if the password is longer than 15 characters. Dumb. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
RE: Is there a way...
Sure snip Echo 11.2.202.235, 24ms textfile.txt snip But, I imagine that's not exactly what you're looking for. What's generating the input? Is it always in a certain form? Whats the goal? Checking ping time on computers with a certain version of flash? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is there a way... In batch to take this output: --- W32i DLL ENU11.2.202.235 shp flash32_11_2_202_235.ocx Reply from 4.2.2.3: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=53 --- And end up with this in a .TXT file? --- 11.2.202.235 , 24ms --- I'm wondering if a FOR loop can be leveraged? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Is there a way...
Why are you using MAP-WS_Results.txt? Just as a data collection point or do you
possibly need more info from it later besides the 4 things you mention? If the
only thing you want at the end is your master list in a text file, I would
parse the data during each command. Something like this, maybe?
for /f tokens=1-5 %%i in ('FILEVER
%SystemRoot%\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash*.ocx') do set FlashVersion=%%m
for /f tokens=1-7 delims== %i in ('ping -n 1 4.2.2.3 ^| find /i reply') do
set PingTime=%o
echo %ComputerName%,%FlashVersion%,%PingTime%
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is there a way...
CMD only.
Sorry I should have included more info. The commands I am already running are:
FILEVER %SystemRoot%\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash*.ocx /A /D
b:\wsdata\MAP-WS_Results.txt
Echo. b:\wsdata\MAP-WS_Results.txt
ping -n 1 4.2.2.3 | find /i reply b:\wsdata\MAP-WS_Results.txt
So what you saw was the contents of MAP-WS_Results.txt.
Ultimately I'm looking to have say, 50 machines run that batch file and end up
with something like this in a .TXT/.CSV
***
Machine name, OS, Flash version, ping
JOEBOB-XP, Windows XP, 11.2.202.235,24ms
MARYLOUWIN7,Windows 7,10.0.1,23ms
***
From: Michael B. Smith
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is there a way...
BAT/CMD only? Or is PowerShell an option?
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is there a way...
In batch to take this output:
---
W32i DLL ENU11.2.202.235 shp flash32_11_2_202_235.ocx
Reply from 4.2.2.3: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=53
---
And end up with this in a .TXT file?
---
11.2.202.235 , 24ms
---
I'm wondering if a FOR loop can be leveraged?
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RE: Outlook multi-accounts
This is now configurable with a reg tweak in exchange 2010 http://www.windowsitpro.com/content1/topic/shared-mailboxes-office-365-142386/catpath/office-365/page/2 From: Robert Peterson [mailto:robert.peter...@prin.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook multi-accounts Wait till they complain after correctly changing/using a different FROM: account, that the sent email ends up in UserA's Sent Items folder no matter the FROM account. I love trying to sell that one. From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Outlook multi-accounts We do. Its called Google. :-) ---Blackberried From: Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 19:05:14 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Outlook multi-accounts Oh, I understand. Some users are of the opinion that IT has a magic wand that can make all software do what the user intends regardless of how it was written. Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com [Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160] From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Outlook multi-accounts Well, that's how it works, so they can either do it to obtain their desired result, or not do it and get some other result. The power is in their hands. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com wrote: User is whining complaining that this is too much trouble, that the system should do this for her automatically. Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com [Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160] From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Outlook multi-accounts Enable viewing of the FROM message header, and see what is listed when replies are made. You should be able to select the desired account at that point, too. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.commailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com wrote: Have a user with four accounts open on her Outlook 2010 (UserA, UserB, UserC, UserD); UserA is her native account, the other three were opened via File:Open:Other User's Folder. Her default SMTP address on the Exchange 2010 server is userA. She is reporting that when mail comes into one of the other accounts that when she replies it goes out as being from UserA. Expected behavior is replies will go out with the SMTP from: address for the given account to which the mail was sent (mail TO:UserB when replied to should be FROM:UserB). That is my expectation too. Obviously expectations do not align with reality here; any insight? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: Time for new core switches
Big fan of exchange here as well. We're looking to upgrade, so we might have a BlackDiamond 8810 for sale soon :) From: Kat Aylward Langan [mailto:messagel...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time for new core switches disclaimer - I work for Extreme Networks, but am in IT there and not Sales Have you checked out the products from Extreme Networks? We just showed at Interop and won a bunch of awards, and have also compared VERY favorably to many of the more well known vendors. http://www.extremenetworks.com/products/products-hub.aspx On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Chinnery, Paul pa...@mmcwm.commailto:pa...@mmcwm.com wrote: I have a Cisco 4510 as core running 1 gig ports. However, due to hospital expansion (including going to VOIP), I am going to upgrade to 10 gig. Size of our org doesn't justify, at this time, going to 40 or 100. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Time for new core switches Hi Folks, My core switch bank is a series of 3COM (HP) 1GIG managed switches. They've worked very well. I don't think the exact model is made anymore, so I cannot add to the current bank. Looking at my options, what speeds are you now using for your core switches: 1 GB, 10, 100? We don't do any audio or AutoCad type of things here, but I do have several SANS that are connected to the core. I haven't run any port stats yet but I will. What about port size? Each of these switches has 24 ports. I could continue with smaller switches or look for a few switches with many ports. I recall seeing a Foundry core switch a few years ago and I think it had a few hundred ports. Thoughts? Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Kat Aylward Langan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copying a Windows partition made difficult
Cool. Well done. I look forward to the write up. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copying a Windows partition made difficult Success! I'll write the details up in full later, but the short(ish) version is: The hidden sectors field of the NTFS Partition Boot Record actually appears to be used by the NT bootstrap to locate the partition. If I change this field to contain the LBA of the first sector of the partition, my old/copied/broken partition becomes my old/copied/WORKING partition. Since Win XP lives in the second partition on my disk, and I made the first partition bigger on my new disk, the starting LBA of the XP partition changed. The hidden sectors field was now pointing into the middle of a Linux partition. Microsoft's documentation states this field is Not used or checked by NTFS. Which, I guess, technically speaking, is true. The bootstrap is not NTFS. But Windows won't boot if this field is wrong, so they *might* have mentioned that. Grrr. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copying a Windows partition made difficult
A2. Volume serial number A2 being different also makes sense, as that's supposed to be unique per filesystem. I think I'd investigate making these match. There are references in the registry to these so I could conceive of this being a problem. It does sound like you're failing too early for it to matter, but I don't think you're hurting anything by having the new serial number match the old one. Have you tried using a utility just to see what it does differently? That at least gives you something to aim at. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 5:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copying a Windows partition made difficult Here's the latest info: UPDATE SUMMARY Clean installs of Win XP Pro SP2, Win 7 Enterprise Trial, and even MS-DOS can all boot from this hard disk and MBR. It is only my old XP instance copied block-for-block from the old disk to this one that hang at boot. BACKGROUND http://www.mail-archive.com/ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com/msg112630.html NEW INFORMATION By creating a new primary partition P3, I was able to do a clean install of Win XP Pro SP2 on to this disk. I was then able to boot it with the Microsoft MBR. It even saw my old, copied XP partition without apparent trouble. I could also boot this new XP instance using the Neil Turton MBR, or by chainloading from GRUB. I was also able to do similar with Win 7 Enterprise, and even MS-DOS. Win 7's CHKDSK didn't complain about anything when I ran it against the old XP partition. So this disk and MBR can boot other OSes, even XP, in the general case. It's just copying the XP partition from old disk to new that seems to not work. I also compared NTFS parameters in the partition boot record of my old XP vs the clean install XP. They are virtually identical. The only differences are: A1. Total sector count A2. Volume serial number A3. MFT mirror starting cluster A4. Hidden sector count All other parameters are identical. A1 being different makes perfect sense, as the partitions are different sizes. A2 being different also makes sense, as that's supposed to be unique per filesystem. I have no idea how Microsoft picks the starting cluster for the MFT mirror, but it seems reasonable they might be in different locations. The primary MFT always seems to start at cluster 0xC. A4, the hidden sector count is interesting. On the old disk/partition, it is 80325. On the clean install, it is 211929480. That's larger than the partition. I'm not sure what to make of that. My next step is start examining the boot code in the partition boot record and sectors immediately following. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: SUBINACL question - setting inheritance
+1 for fileacl Don't forget /FORCE for the times the user has changed the perms and locked you out. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 1:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: SUBINACL question - setting inheritance On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com wrote: But how do I make sure that inheritance is on for all the sub-folders, and how do I make sure that the new ACLs bubble down the chain of files/sub-folders? I typically use FILEACL (free third-party tool) for this sort of thing. It has a few features that make things more convenient, and the syntax is mildly less horrible than SUBINACL. For your scenario, I would first do: FILEACL %USER_PROFILE_FOLDER% /REPLACE /INHERIT /SUB /FILES and then separately block inheritance on the user profile folder. I use the above so often I've got it wrapped in a batch file reinherit.CMD, which I just posted here: https://sites.google.com/site/mailvortex/windows/permissions -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copying a Windows partition made difficult
Might be worth the time to just install xp natively on that drive to be sure that it works. While there, compare the MBR to your clone attempt. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copying a Windows partition made difficult On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: It *is* a 4096-byte sector drive ... I'm assuming that, by itself, won't cause XP to bomb. Actually, that fact is critical. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2510009 This drive is a 512e drive. It uses 4096-byte physical sectors internally, but presents 512-byte sectors to the host interface (called 512 byte emulation, or 512e). As I understand it, the OS can and generally will behave as if the drive has 512-byte sectors, same as older disks, unless it takes the time to ask the drive. If the OS is completely ignorant of 512e, it just won't notice at all. The only reason it matters at all is that one generally wants I/O operations to be aligned to physical sector boundaries. For example, if the OS writes a single 512-byte block, the drive has to read the 4096-byte block, replace just the 512 bytes that were actually written to, and then write the entire 4096-bytes back out. This can cause performance to suck, or even defeat transaction schemes that depend on data being committed to the disk in a certain way.But plain old reads -- like during bootstrap -- shouldn't care at all, AFAIK. Keep in mind all that KB article says is that Microsoft doesn't *support* XP on 512e drives. It doesn't say if it will work, one way or the other. As I'm sure you're aware, XP is in the Extended Support Phase, where Microsoft says they only promise to provide critical security fixes. They may just not want the support burden of making XP 512e aware. I've certainly seen plenty of documentation from other vendors talking about running XP on 512e drives. For example: http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/kcs/document?docid=408172#Issue5 I'm certainly willing to be told I'm wrong on this, but that MSKB article alone doesn't explain this problem, as far as I can tell. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: UAC and local admin rights
Preach it brotha -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 3:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: UAC and local admin rights Short version of the below: There's a ton of crap software out there, and the amount of crap usually outweighs the amount of IT resources. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: There are many niche/industry apps out there that require admin rights. While I personally believe that any app should be able to be configured via security on the file system and the registry to not require admin privs - it can be a hassle to support broad-spectrum, and there are software vendors that will not support such modified environments. I dont agree with or advocate the practices - but I've certainly encountered the issues. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copying a Windows partition made difficult
No real answer for you, but we saw similar symptoms after Ghosting a drive from a ThinkPad. Turns out Ghost expects a single-sector MBR, but the Lenovo was using 4 sectors. It's been long enough that I don't remember how or if we fixed it, but it might be something to look at. There's quite a bit of discussion on it here: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Storage/Misc/Q_22782044.html Possibly more info about it here: http://www.bing.com/search?q=mbr+black+screen+ghost+thinkpad -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Copying a Windows partition made difficult SUMMARY After doing a byte-for-byte copy to a partition on another disk, Win XP Pro yields a blank screen and blinking cursor trying to boot. I desire to figure out what went wrong. ENVIRONMENT Dell Precision 380 Windows XP Pro SP3 (C: = NTFS) Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.4 squeeze (kernel 2.6.32) SATA hard disk INTRODUCTION I bought a bigger hard disk for my home PC. I wanted to just copy the existing OSes to the new drive, more-or-less as is. While I'm aware there are myriad tools to do it for you, I wanted to see if I could find a do it yourself solution. So this is as much a learning exercise as a technical challenge. So now, I want to figure out why it's not working -- not just buy or download a tool that leaves me ignorant. The Windows system is Win XP Pro SP3, reasonably current on updates, but dating back to SP2 and 2006 for the initial install. I've also got a Linux system. Copying Linux was its own adventure in brain damaged software, but is now working. Windows on the new disk is failing to boot and I can't figure out why, and none of the things I've tried have helped. DISK LAYOUT When trying to boot, I have only a single disk attached. When trying to copy, I of course attach the other disk as a secondary disk, but normal condition is a single disk. On both the old and new disks, the partition layout looks like: P1 Linux boot partition (sd?1) P2 Windows partition [C:] (sd?2) P3 Linux LVM partition (sd?3) Windows drive letter designations given in square brackets. Linux device designations given in parenthesis. No extended/logical partitions. Only the one Windows partition, with Windows in C:\WINDOWS, as normal. While the ordinal position is the same, all three partitions are bigger than they were before. I'm using a standard MBR boot sector. There is no Linux OS loader (like LILO or GRUB) installed in the MBR. Instead, I have GRUB v2 installed in P1. When I want GRUB to act as my boot manager, I set P1 active. This previously let me fall back to booting Windows without a boot manager just by setting P2 active. INITIAL COPY I copied the Windows partition under Linux. Specifically, I attached the new disk as sdb, created my partitions, and then ran: dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb2 bs=32M The dd command just blindly copies data from one file/device to another. sda2 is the Windows partition on my old disk here, and sdb2 is the new disk's new partition. (The bs=32M just sets the block size to 32*2^20 bytes, which is faster than the default of 512 bytes. It does copy the last partial block, despite it not being a full 32 MiB.) I even confirmed the copy is byte-for-byte identical with: cmp /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 which confirmed that the two partitions match, right up until the end of the old partition (sda2). The new partition I made bigger than the old one, but my understanding is that shouldn't matter, and I can later grow NTFS to use the new space. OBSERVED BEHAVIOR Attempting to boot the new Windows partition yields a blinking cursor and no other response. No Windows copyright banner or boot loader messages, no screen clear, nothing. Just a black text-mode screen and a blinking cursor. This happens regardless of whether I set P2 active, or if I set P1 active and then tell GRUB to chain-load to P2. GRUB loads quite happily from the same MBR, and can start any of several different Linux-based environments. INVESTIGATION I can mount the Windows partition read-only under Linux, and see all the files. I can view various Windows files, including NTLDR. So it appears that the filesystem is intact. I looked up the specs on the NTFS partition boot record (the first block/sector of the filesystem), and wrote a small C program to dump information from it, and all the values appear to be sane, as far as I can see. With the new disk attached, I booted the Windows XP Pro SP2 installation CD and started the recovery console. I was able to mount the C: partition and log on with my Windows Administrator password. I could browse the filesystem, and things looked sane. I tried running CHKDSK, and it said the filesystem was clean. So then I did CHKDSK /P. It said it fixed errors, but didn't given further details.
RE: GPO Question
One advantage to using group policy to install MSI based applications is the
ability to automatically uninstall when the GPO no longer applies. However,
your installing via a script, so the install is only tangentially related to
group policy.
At this point, if you want to uninstall the app, you'll have to change the
script to do that instead of install. You can usually find the uninstall
string in the registry of computer that has the app installed. It will
generally look something like this msiexec /u {1234-1234-1234-1234}. Change
the script to check if its installed, and if so, run the uninstall string.
From: Troy Adkins [mailto:tadk...@house.virginia.gov]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: GPO Question
I have a GPO (computer config) defined that runs a script from the 'netlogon'
folder. The vendor has the vbs script calling an .msi file to install an app,
per their instructions.
Not the way I would've preferred, but I assume it was done that way to allow
for a registry configuration based on 32-bit or 64-bit OS.
I want remove that script and remove the software/app that the script installed.
I found the below, but not sure if this will do what I want.
http://www.winvistatips.com/delete-logon-script-all-users-t695675.html
Just by removing the GPO from the OU doesn't uninstall the app.
-Troy
Troy Adkins
Network Administrator
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RE: Whitelisting
Yup. The EICAR[1] string as a good example as well. In notepad, it's 68 ASCII characters. In DOS, it's an executable. So is it code or is it text? [1] http://eicar.org/85-0-Download.html From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 12:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Whitelisting Actually, to make this point better: If I open a certain set of 0s and 1s in notepad.exe, it just displays the ASCII/Unicode character representation of those 1s and 0s on the screen If I open the same set of 0s and 1s in cscript.exe, then certain other actions get performed on the system. The above is a fairly clear distinction, but there are plenty of scenarios that grey the boundary far more. As far as I'm concerned, it is very difficult to distinguish between data and code, except in the simplest of cases. Cheers Ken From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]mailto:[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2012 11:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Whitelisting The first statement is wrong - there is no difference between data and code - they are just ones and zeros. Now, an application, can, tell an OS that certain memory addresses contain code that should not be executed. But some other application, loading exactly the same ones and zeros, can tell the OS that it should be executable. Cheers Ken From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2012 2:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Whitelisting Data is code. Code is data. They're both strings of 1's and 0's. No, they are most certainly not the same. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Whitelisting
Data is harmless unless that data is actually formed in such a way to exploit a vulnerability in an application. If so, you've got a whitelisted application executing arbitrary code from a data file. From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@eckelberry.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Whitelisting But, if we ever get to a world where whitelisting is the predominant means of execution control, the bad guys will, out of necessity, be relegated to exploiting flaws in applications through data files. I don't understand how you can have an exploit in a data file resulting in anything else but code execution. Data itself is harmless; it's the executables that cause harm. There will always be code executed, in some form or another (unless I'm misunderstanding your point). Alex From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 12:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Whitelisting Possibly...even probably. But, if we ever get to a world where whitelisting is the predominant means of execution control, the bad guys will, out of necessity, be relegated to exploiting flaws in applications through data files. A scanner that looks for signatures of exploits in files will be a useful tool. Assuming of course, all applications aren't secure. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Andrew S. Baker Sent: 4/15/2012 1:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Whitelisting You can't. :) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: How do you blacklist all possible bad data files? --Original Message-- From: Crawford, Scott To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Whitelisting Sent: 14 Apr 2012 18:02 A combination is needed. Whitelisting for traditional executable code and blacklisting for data files that exploit vulnerable white listed applications. -Original Message- From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:a...@eckelberry.commailto:a...@eckelberry.com] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Whitelisting I'm curious, what's the general feeling about about whitelisting? As a former AV guy, I tend to prefer blacklisting, but I'm seeing signs things might be changing. Thoughts? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
