RE: The list?
Deaner. -sc -Original Message- From: Charles Figueiredo [mailto:ist...@intsolcan.com] Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 10:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The list? On Wed, 1 May 2013 21:08:13 +, Webster wrote: You didn't get the memo? http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/ Thanks No memo. No link Regards, Charles Webster -Original Message- From: Charles Figueiredo [mailto:ist...@intsolcan.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 3:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The list? On Wed, 1 May 2013 20:20:12 +, Ryan Finnesey wrote: I am still getting mail from the list. Maybe it is a back log. Is there a replacment? Regards, Charles Cheers Ryan From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The list? Nope it went away April 30th. From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The list? is this thing still on? On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: At the rate it delivers messages, I expect it will happen sometime next year. On Wednesday, May 1, 2013, Steven M. Caesare wrote: The listserv is still processing the list-deletion request. -sc From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The list? And so the first of a new month has come and the list still exists I think we've been hornswaggled! John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The list? True I should lean to read a calendar Sent from my iPad mini On Apr 30, 2013, at 12:39 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: We haven't hit the end of the month yet. John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Regards, Charles --- Charles Figueiredo PhD Integrated Solutions - Enhancing Small Business Systems --- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
RE: The list?
Freaking out? Hardly. More like what happens in the classroom when the teacher steps out for a moment... -sc From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 11:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The list? My theory is this: 1) He sent his email a month early by accident, it isn't shutting down until the end of April. 2) He has been busy, and hasn't seen what we have been sayingso he isn't aware we are freaking out. From: Clark, Tommy R [mailto:tommy.r.cl...@saic.com] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The list? I am surprised that Stu has been silent through all of this. From: bounce-9606064-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9606064-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of James Kerr Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The list? Now I have to wonder if the lists were being shutdown at all and if Stu's email was just a ploy to get folks over to his own list. (which he never left instructions on how to do) On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Pong. Need some popcorn... On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:56 AM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote: Ping? Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher. On May 1, 2013 8:35 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Hesienberg's 8-Ball says: Uncertain -sc From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The list? Is Schrodenger's cat subscribed to the list? On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote: I hate to jinks it but it seem the list is still up and running? No. We're all a figment of your imagination. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: The list?
Wait, we aren't here? -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 1:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The list? On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: ... he isn't aware we are freaking out. Freaking out? Hardly. More like what happens in the classroom when the teacher steps out for a moment... Except when the teacher steps back in, usually the class is still there. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: The list?
The listserv is still processing the list-deletion request. -sc From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The list? And so the first of a new month has come and the list still exists - I think we've been hornswaggled! John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The list? True I should lean to read a calendar Sent from my iPad mini On Apr 30, 2013, at 12:39 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: We haven't hit the end of the month yet. John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: The list? I hate to jinks it but it seem the list is still up and running? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
Nah... 3 years from now you can just send a bunch of msgs to the list saying How do I get off this list?? and Unsubscribe me NAO! And then when you finally DO get the instructions... you can send the unsub request to the list itself rather than the list-server... -sc -Original Message- From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 6:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I was supposed to save that??? Joe Heaton Enterprise Server Support CA Department of Fish and Wildlife 1807 13th Street, Suite 201 Sacramento, CA 95811 Desk: (916) 323-1284 -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:12 PM To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. You can also sign-up using these instructions... 1. Create a new, blank email. 2. Address the email to: comm...@lists.myitforum.com 3. Skip all the way down to the BODY of the new email (leaving the subject line blank) and enter the following: subscribe NTSysADM 4. Send the email. In a few minutes you’ll receive a subscription confirmation back. Save this email, as it contains information on how to manage your subscription to the list. -Original Message- From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I'm having a problem with signing up for the new list. I'm using Windows Live as my email client, and I keep getting error messages each time I click on the second link to the new NTSYSADMIN list. Anybody have any ideas? The message says I'm low on resources, but I don't believe that! There was another message that came up just once stating that I needed to update Windows Live to continue. M. Free -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Done. Link is here: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/ Rod Trent Done. Thank you. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Fascinating. -sc From: C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Since this is the last day of the month and most likely the end of this list. Not really the end for good? Since one of the members here has offered to take on the task of making sure all the list members involved with the old one. Still have a place to give and get free advice. I was going to let this whole screw over job of the list go. But, as all who know of me. I'm a very open and straight forward on my outlooks and what I have to say! I realize it is your sponsored list run on your servers. And you have overhead to make it all work. And if you choose to take it down? That is fine for me. But, you also must realize that by not having enough balls Sorry ladies of the list. To come forward and give the list members any info or updates on what to expect. Is right down rude and uncalled for! What gets me the most is GFI never had any problems in the past posting to the list about new products or ways for them to make money? But, I guess you have forgotten a lot of the list members not only bought/used or pushed your products to places they worked at or even friends etc. And have helped you to get to the size you are now. As for myself I have no interest in your products and plan to share what has happened here and the way you have right out. CUT OFF the hand that has helped feed you for years! I would also like to thank Stu ,Alex and the rest of the old sunbelt group for the many years of list and personal support they have given to me and others members etc. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: You're right, the older I get the more it annoys me... that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age Turn your monitor upside down and this will be easier to read in context -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION And, that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gene C. Sticks and stones may break my bones. I will never let words hurt me. But, pushed to far? And I will beat you until the law gets their! http://www.facebook.com/cegenec Misc. B.S. http://genec-lori.com/ PackRat GarageSale http://genec-lori.biz/ Genes-Computers Inc. Yulee ,Fl Established 1981, Microsoft OEM Registered member, system builder Active registered Microsoft Partner Active Charter Partner of The Association of System Builders and Integrators If you think you're beaten, Then you are! If you give up
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
there -sc -Original Message- From: c.e. gene connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On 4/30/2013 1:45 PM, Mathew Shember wrote: Maybe he was thinking of the vision levels of the older members of the list. From: Steve Ens [stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Perhaps if you post in a larger font, they will listen more closely to what you have to say On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:48 AM, C.E. Gene Connor cege...@gmail.commailto:cege...@gmail.com wrote: Since this is the last day of the month and most likely the end of this list. Not really the end for good? Since one of the members here has offered to take on the task of making sure all the list members involved with the old one. Still have a place to give and get free advice. I was going to let this whole screw over job of the list go. But, as all who know of me. I'm a very open and straight forward on my outlooks and what I have to say! I realize it is your sponsored list run on your servers. And you have overhead to make it all work. And if you choose to take it down? That is fine for me. But, you also must realize that by not having enough balls Sorry ladies of the list. To come forward and give the list members any info or updates on what to expect. Is right down rude and uncalled for! What gets me the most is GFI never had any problems in the past posting to the list about new products or ways for them to make money? But, I guess you have forgotten a lot of the list members not only bought/used or pushed your products to places they worked at or even friends etc. And have helped you to get to the size you are now. As for myself I have no interest in your products and plan to share what has happened here and the way you have right out. CUT OFF the hand that has helped feed you for years! I would also like to thank Stu ,Alex and the rest of the old sunbelt group for the many years of list and personal support they have given to me and others members etc. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Free, Bob r...@pge.commailto:r...@pge.com wrote: You're right, the older I get the more it annoys me... that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age Turn your monitor upside down and this will be easier to read in context -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION And, that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.commailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmanager@lyris.sunbelt software.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmanager@lyris.sunbelt software.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Nor make incorrect absolute assertions. ;) -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 3:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Did you just top post? On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: To my mind, it's all the difference... Email comes to me. I see it all in my inbox, and can read and respond at leisure, and it all works as a normal email conversation. I have to go to web forums. Each one has a different interface and ways of working. Definitely prefer email. Kurt On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote: Google Plus is web based. I like good old email over web based. Sent from my iPad mini On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I will not use a google property for something that has a business purpose for me. I’m only one person, but I doubt I’m the only one that feels that way. From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world? Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600 Or build our own? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt G. Waleed Kavalec Couldn't have been - I never would do that. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE- Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
I believe that Ben’s offer was to blog about where the new list home might be if we didn’t get the transition details completed before the Sunbelt List implodes in spectacular fireball of mediocrity and scorn. But then again, reading seems to be a lost art, so I could be wrong. -sc From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Question – we’ve had both Rod and Ben offer to host, and both have given links. Do those wishing to continue a mail-based (rather than web-based) forum go with Rod’s? Is that what the agreement seems to be? Thanks to both Rod and Ben! -- richard From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Done. Link is here: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/ Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ http://www.myitforum.com/ http://twitter.com/rodtrent http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Sounds good to me and post the link so we can start over there… Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, CISA, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org Work:401-444-9081 This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org mailto:david@nwea.org ] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I vote do it. I prefer e-mail to web forum for this stuff. From: rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com ] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I can set up a list in a few minutes, just say the word. We already host over 25 lists and have plenty of bandwidth to spare. Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro From: Kennedy, Jim Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 8:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues The end of the month and allegedly the end of the list is tomorrow. We need a plan B to get back in contact to get this going again if possible. Someone got a blog we can bookmark for new/announcements that would be willing to post anything they hear? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Bad idea. -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
I’ll bring the wall for you to beat your head against. -sc From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION WJR, I'm kinda hungry. You bringing popcorn to this one? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
You mean OTHER than to avoid having to migrate again a couple of years when Google decides Wave^H^H^H^H Plus wasn't a good idea? -sc From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world? Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600 Or build our own? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec -- The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone. - Rod Serling; Closing monologue from The Monsters are Due on Maple Street The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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make email easy and more natural to read That's debatable. -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Oh my...that's a lot of work for both the recipient and the sender and definitely not the norm. I guess we're all just doing it wrong. :) I thought it was an email client issue, like you were using Lotus Notes or something. It used to be much easier and much more common, and most clients and listservs didn't make it hard to bottom post - gmail, and many others, now make you go through stupid gyrations to make email easy and more natural to read. But, once your fingers learn the rhythm, it's no big deal, and it's a lot easier for others to read and follow along. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
All together now: Friggin' Lyris. -sc From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@outlook.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION You rang? Pretty sure Lyris kills images, I'll send you some popcorn off-list. - WJR Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:58:08 -0400 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION From: rich...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com WJR, I'm kinda hungry. You bringing popcorn to this one? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Who are you, and what have you done with WJR?? -sc From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@outlook.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION I've grown more sociable in my old age. - WJR Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:37:12 -0400 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION From: jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com You share your popcorn with anyone? :D On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:17 PM, William Robbins dangerw...@outlook.com wrote: You rang? Pretty sure Lyris kills images, I'll send you some popcorn off-list. - WJR Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:58:08 -0400 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION From: rich...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com WJR, I'm kinda hungry. You bringing popcorn to this one? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Virtualization
Is it WebScale? -sc From: Pete Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualization I have a clustered mobile san based on iphone farm storage with that same pdf. From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:05 AM Subject: RE: Virtualization I have a PDF on my SAN somewhere that addresses this.. I’ll send it with my Linux email client. -sc From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Virtualization Looking to virtualize 7 windows 2008 servers. A couple of questions: How do I size a Virtualized server and san? Which virtual server software is best? Hyper V, VMware, citrix Any guidance in this area is appreciated… ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Kurt's just mad you are on his lawn. -sc From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Get off my lawn. Ha! -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Ben9K breaks that. -sc -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 11:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION And, that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
What if you only read like that, but not type that way? -sc -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION ˙sıɥʇ ǝʞıן ǝdʎʇ noʎ ɟı ʎןuo -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION You're right, the older I get the more it annoys me... that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age Turn your monitor upside down and this will be easier to read in context -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION And, that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Boom! -sc -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION deaned :-] -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION All you top posters, see answer inline. On 26 Apr 2013 at 7:23, Kurt Buff wrote: On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. +1 -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: list admins?
EDNS issues with resolvers and/or firewalls? -sc From: Donald Bittenbender [mailto:donald.bittenben...@gfi.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: list admins? In the logs Lyris says it can’t lookup the DNS information – this has happened many times before, and I usually end up having to hard code the MX Server in the “DNS Bypass” so it will stop timing out on the lookup. I have tried that with Ryan and hopefully this helps him out. Yes, I do not monitor the list much – it’s pretty much a free resource provided to the community and we’ve been quite busy working on internal projects. Hopefully everything is all worked out, else I will be in further contact with Ryan. Have a good one! Donald Bittenbender – donald.bittenben...@gfi.com mailto:donald.bittenben...@gfi.com Software Developer / SharePoint / Salesforce - GFI Software - www.gfi.com http://www.gfi.com/ Web Mail Security, Archiving Fax, Networking Security Tel: +1 888 688 8457 Fax: +1 727 562 5199 Join us on: Facebook https://www.facebook.com/gfisoftware | Twitter http://twitter.com/gfisoftware | LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1833394 | TalkTechToMe http://www.gfi.com/blog/ | YouTube http://www.youtube.com/gfisoftware | GFI http://www.gfi.com/ From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: list admins? My issue is a bit different I am removed from the list completely. I did send an email off to Donald Bittenbender. I will let the group know what he comes back with. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Terry Dickson mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us Sent: 4/18/2013 8:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: list admins? Ryan, I have the same problem. I get the email but can't reply. All I know is that when I try to send the reply it never appears. I have come up with a workaround but hate it so many times I do not reply when I do have a potential answer for someone. I just click on the website link on the bottom of the page, log in and then use the website to reply, like I am doing now. If you find someone to talk to about this and get it resolved please respond to this post or let me know so I can also seek a solution. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin DISCLAIMER The information contained in this electronic mail may be confidential or legally privileged. It is for the intended recipient(s) only. Should you receive this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this mail. Please do not read, copy, forward or store this message unless you are an intended recipient of it - unauthorized use of contents is strictly prohibited. Unless expressly stated, opinions in this message are those of the individual sender and not of GFI. While all care has been taken, GFI is not responsible for the integrity or the contents of this electronic mail and any attachments included within. (GFI2013) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dual Wan Soho High Speed Router Suggestions
Does that free Sophos UTM firewall mentioned here a bit back meet your needs? I'm not sure about the failover part, but you might want to have a look... http://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/sophos-utm-home-edition. aspx -sc From: Beach Computers Web Hosting [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dual Wan Soho High Speed Router Suggestions Ideally $150 tops. I don't mind using a PC as I have so many laying around, but whatever I end up with would ideally be a little idiot proof as I'm no linux guru. :) From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dual Wan Soho High Speed Router Suggestions OpenBSD is a popular option in the PC router realm. As for appliances, Sophos (Astaro) and Fortinet sell very affordable devices that would handle this function as well. What's your budget? ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Shane Mullins tsmulli...@gmail.com wrote: Since you mentioned using a PC based router, OpenBSD has supported failover for at least eight years. Performance is great and their security is top notch. OpenBSD uses pf as a firewall. Pf is much easier to use, for me, than iptables. FYI, Linux *can* do this too, but if I didn't have experience with either, I'd go with OpenBSD/pf, too. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Google Drive
OxygenDrive is interesting in that it provides a virtual drive that actually mounts. You can do standard explorer/command line options with it. There still is a sync mechanism as well, but it’s about the most seamless solution I’ve seen. There’s also the standard web interface, as well as apps for iOS and Android. You can obtain cloud storage from them (free for personal, $$ for commercial), or frontend your own storage with their solution. As always, read the ToS with cloud storage providers. -sc From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Google Drive If we are throwing out our fav syncing tools SkyDrive rocks, Windows, Windows RT and Windows Phone all in sync. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Matthew W. Ross mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org Sent: 10/04/2013 18:15 To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Google Drive I use Google Drive all the time, at least the online version. I have been trying a lot of different syncing solutions as of late, as I also have been using Dropbox and Cubby. I have the desktop client on my home PC, but it has not given me any problems. It behaves a lot better than Dropbox for me, as Dropbox likes to index every time I am forced to reboot, which seems to take an unusually long time. The client at home I use to drop in PDFs of important mailers I get (Scan to FTP, copy to Google Drive) so that I have is wherever I need them. Otherwise, it's a simple web-based word processor/spreadsheet/drawing tool that works anywhere I go. How are you trying to sync your Firefox bookmarks with Google drive? Are you using the Portable Apps version of Firefox, and seeing the problems when you are mixing the two together? (Very cool idea, BTW. I just wonder how syncing would work if you had it open on multiple computers...) Doesn't Firefox now have a native bookmark syncing feature, much like Google Chrome? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 03:37:57 -0800 Subject: Google Drive Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? I regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and if I go to the online version and try to empty the Trash folder, everything simply reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using it with Portable Apps and recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am beginning to think it might not be really fit for purpose. Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report? Cheers, -- *James Rankin* Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This message has been scanned by MimeCast on behalf of Freebridge Community Housing and found to be free of viruses and not SPAM. If you have any concerns about the message contents please contact the ICT ServiceDesk. http://www.freebridge.org.uk http://twitter.com/Freebridge http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kings-Lynn-United-Kingdom/Freebridge-Community-Housing/192690183387?v=box_3 This e-mail (including any attachments), is confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee(s). It may contain information covered by legal, professional or other privilege. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Do not copy, use or disclose this e-mail. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard copy version. Freebridge Community Housing Ltd is a Charitable Industrial and Provident Society - Reg No IP29744R Registered with the Registered with the Homes Communities Agency - No L4463. VAT Registration Number 860762121 Freebridge Community Housing, Juniper House, Austin Street, Kings Lynn, Norfolk PE30 1DZ
RE: OT: Just A Bunch of Noise, or The Beginning of The End?
+.81 -sc -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 12:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Just A Bunch of Noise, or The Beginning of The End? I just wish the media would just ignore everything Gartner says. I don't know why anyone takes their opinions seriously. They also said that Apple should get out of the hardware business and partner with Dell at some point. They predicted years ago that HP would be out of the PC business. Bill Roger Wright wrote: http://usmarketbuzz.com/msft-microsoft-corporation-nasdaqmsft-will-gro w-obsolete-by-2017-gartner-3206# Roger Wright ___ You can't believe most of the quotes you read on the internet. - Abraham Lincoln ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Space and Beyond:
We're going to need a bigger boat^H^H^H^H Deep Space Network -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Space and Beyond: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: 11 billion miles away is a large distance... Astronomically far away, even. And yet, Alpha Centari is about 25,671 billion miles away (if my (and Google's) math is right). -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Space and Beyond:
Undoubtedly... HAM's regularly communicate with nearer objects such as the ISS or the Shuttle. Even moon-bounce is doable at amateur levels. 11 billion miles away is a large distance... The sensitivity of our deep-space tracking antennas located around the world is truly amazing. The antennas must capture Voyager information from a signal so weak that the power striking the antenna is only 10 exponent -16 watts (1 part in 10 quadrillion). A modern-day electronic digital watch operates at a power level 20 billion times greater than this feeble level. http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/didyouknow.html -sc From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Space and Beyond: When I was a teenager and a ham radio operator we would have fun by tuning into Voyager and other transmissions. It was doable then even with hastily constructed directional antennas. If I remember correctly, the Voyager radio is about 25 watts. With good antennas, that is easily enough for EVM space, except during conjunctions. However, from 11 billion miles away, as SC says, that takes something with the sensitivity of the DSN. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Space and Beyond: The S/N ratio is such that you'd need access dishes the size/sensitivity of the Deep Space Network. So the real issue would be hacking the ground-stations to get access to the equipment... unless you have a global array of 30+ meter dishes lying around. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Network -sc From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Space and Beyond: Cool. Has me wondering if amateurs could tune in to the broadcasts from Voyager. Also, I'm not sure how much instruction it receives, but it seems like there could be some interesting hacking opportunities. How secure could 35 year old technology be? From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Space and Beyond: http://articles.latimes.com/2013/mar/20/science/la-sci-voyager-20130321 http://xkcd.com/1189/ Read them in any order :) Hope you enjoy... (Voyager has computers, in case you're wondering) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: GoToMeeting/GoToWebinar Updates
Typically VPN if it's urgent and can wait until the next maintenance cycle. -sc From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoToMeeting/GoToWebinar Updates So if they're offsite and an update comes out, how do you handle that? Regards, Cameron ___ Cameron Cooper | IT Manager | Aurico Direct: 847.890.4021 | Cell: 224.688.2854 | Fax: 847.255.1896 ccoo...@aurico.com mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com http://www.aurico.com/ From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoToMeeting/GoToWebinar Updates We just ran in to exactly this... and simply built pushed the WebEx client via SCCM to all machines ahead of time So even if they are offsite in the future, they are ready to go. For offsite machines, you have to use whatever method you use to deliver any other administrative update... -sc From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GoToMeeting/GoToWebinar Updates Issue: Sales user is offsite to demo our website/system and hosts a meeting in GoToMeeting/GoToWebinar. When they go to start the meeting, they login and everything seems to work as normal. As the meeting is in process to start, the user receives a UAC prompt asking to enter in administrative credentials. Issue here is that the user isn't a domain admin or an admin on their laptop and can't install the update. Which in turn they can't host the meeting. Question: Is there a way to allow the user to install the updates without being prompted for admin credentials and not making them an admin on that laptop/workstation? I know that you can setup a GPO to install a MSI package, However am not sure on how to resolve this when the user is offsite and not connected to the network. Regards, Cameron ___ Cameron Cooper | IT Manager | Aurico Direct: 847.890.4021 | Cell: 224.688.2854 | Fax: 847.255.1896 ccoo...@aurico.com mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com http://www.aurico.com/ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential material. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, downloading, copying or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and permanently delete all copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient but do not wish to receive communications through this medium, please advise the sender immediately. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Slightly OT: RE: Migrate DHCP from 2003 to 2008 R2
Excellent, thanks Kurt... -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Slightly OT: RE: Migrate DHCP from 2003 to 2008 R2 If Webster doesn't, you'll find some guys with experience with the Infoblox stuff on the ActiveDirectory list - activedir.org It's a very worthwhile list, with a lower noise ratio than this one, and some really bright guys, including a couple who inhabit this list. (including MBS and Kradel) Kurt On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Any thoughts on the InfoBlox appliances? A 3-letter gov agency we provide service to is considering them... -sc -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: RE: Migrate DHCP from 2003 to 2008 R2 I just helped move a company from Bluecat DHCP devices to Server 2008 R2 DHCP! They hated the Bluecat devices and they were a real PITA to get zone data out of. Thanks Webster -Original Message- From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Slightly OT: RE: Migrate DHCP from 2003 to 2008 R2 It's also a good excuse/time to clean everything up. : ) We're currently moving from Windows-based DHCP to Bluecat devices. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Slightly OT: RE: Migrate DHCP from 2003 to 2008 R2
Any thoughts on the InfoBlox appliances? A 3-letter gov agency we provide service to is considering them... -sc -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Slightly OT: RE: Migrate DHCP from 2003 to 2008 R2 I just helped move a company from Bluecat DHCP devices to Server 2008 R2 DHCP! They hated the Bluecat devices and they were a real PITA to get zone data out of. Thanks Webster -Original Message- From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Slightly OT: RE: Migrate DHCP from 2003 to 2008 R2 It's also a good excuse/time to clean everything up. : ) We're currently moving from Windows-based DHCP to Bluecat devices. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Backup to cloud?
... weather ... cloud... I see what you did there. -sc From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup to cloud? My initial question concerned cloud as if it's leaving the clients' building via Internet, the transfer data rate is the same weather it's just offsite or true cloud. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup to cloud? Let's not get carried away with calling this proposal 'cloud backup'. IMHO you're offering offsite backup. For something to be cloud you should look at NIST (or similar definitions), which include elements like rapid elasticity, user self-service, broad network access and measured service: http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-145/SP800-145.pdf Cheers Ken From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2013 5:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup to cloud? Yes, DR. Their Internet connection download is 10MBps, the size of their backups is 400+GB total, the smallest being Exchange DB @ 50GB, and if I am restoring their SBS VM it's 350GB plus another 200GB for their SQL VM. If could get the liability sorted, it would be far easier to have it backup to my shop, and recovery would be a matter of me bringing in the drive with the backups. I have unlimited space at my web host so I could back up to that but still the download from there -- my lab (25MBps) is 10+ hours. I have their local backups going to two places onsite (a RAID1 USB 3.0 drive + their other non-hyper-V capable server), my concern is building-wide DR need, kind of goes along with my spare server conversation a couple weeks ago. Very unlikely yes, but I still feel the not covered from that angle twinge. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup to cloud? Why would retrieval take that long? Are you talking more about disaster recovery? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup to cloud? Does backup to cloud even matter if the time to retrieve it spans 20+ hours? If I were to consider hosting a clients' backups at my location, where do I go to find what liabilities I need to worry about. Coincidentally the client in mind is a law firm of all places... David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Wow. Just what we need
Great read, and indeed an interesting compliment to Wireshark... good stuff thanks Kurt. -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 8:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Wow. Just what we need A limited threat, but a good one: Packet of death http://blog.krisk.org/2013/02/packets-of-death.html Also, https://isc.sans.edu/diary/Intel+Network+Card+%2882574L%29+Packet+of+ Death/15109 - see the comment... What a brilliant sleuthing job, though, and a mention of a tool that's new to me and possibly quite promising. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MS site?
Loads Ok from the DC area as well. -sc From: Tim Evans [mailto:tev...@sparling.com] Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS site? There are quite a few tweets this morning about problems with Office 365, SkyDrive, etc, so this may be related. FWIW, it loads OK from Seattle ...Tim From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 6:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: MS site? Anyone else having trouble getting to this link? http://support.microsoft.com http://support.microsoft.com/ Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com mailto: The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com http://www.guardianlife.com/ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: MS site?
Office364.com? -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS site? On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: http://www.zdnet.com/some-users-reporting-microsoft-office-365-access- issues-710689/ Hmmm. They attribute it to routine maintenance. Perhaps time to change the routine, if it's causing newsworthy outages? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT VDI in a box.
It's the special ingredient -sc -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT VDI in a box. We have the absolute best brownies I have ever had in my life here from the student kitchen. They are amazing. -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT VDI in a box. Food parcels would suffice :-) ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:20:13 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: OT VDI in a box. Volunteer == no pay, right? :) On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I'll volunteer to work on it :-) On 13 December 2012 22:01, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Just TRY to find someone to work on it! Impossible. I give it a major “down check” just because of that. From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT VDI in a box. The bloggers I know personally that have used it love it and extol it praises in how simple it is to deploy AND maintain. At this time, there is NO upgrade or migration path from VIAB to XenDesktop. http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/25/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi- in-a-box-part-1-setting-up-the-server/ http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/28/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi- in-a-box-part-2-creating-master-image/ I just sent Neil an email asking where is part three. Thanks Webster From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Subject: OT VDI in a box. We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the public edu environment. The powers that be look at them as ‘free’ computers. So we are thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is accessable via guest wireless and that can only talk to a few select servers…like their own user file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate desktop to them. This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us. VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which is our virtualization software of choice…. Opinions and experiences gang? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- James Rankin Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE- Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE- Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE- Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or
RE: windows phone 8
Touchdown/Android purports to sync Notes in with Exchange 2010. http://www.nitrodesk.com/features.aspx -sc -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: windows phone 8 the only killer feature is that notes sync to outlook in an exchange environment. The notes themselves are just text. At some point, MS stopped included notes as something that syncs using activesync. This very frustarting for people who had blackberries or ancient windows mobile phones that synced the notes. Bill -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: windows phone 8 As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your phone? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:09:43 -0800 Subject: Re: windows phone 8 I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a great phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad I use iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it. For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . . Stefan On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like Windows Phones.** ** ** ** Regards, * * *Don Guyer** **Catholic Health East - Information Technology* Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: *dgu...@che.org* Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.* [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] ** ** *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8 ** ** Thinking about getting the nokia 920. Anyone have any reasons they’d like to share about why or why not to get this device. Also, real world how is the app situation for winphone 8? Anything you really miss from the ios or android world of apps and features? All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details that make or break a phone for me. Thanks. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE- Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~
RE: Spanning disks under server 2003 R2 on a SAN
Nor iSCSI. -sc -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 12:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spanning disks under server 2003 R2 on a SAN No worries, looking back I think you were perfectly clear. I believe you're running into a SCSI 2 limitation. I'm not sure if its a result of their decision to marry FLARE with DART to support multiple block level protocols on the same array. I'm pretty sure that limitation doesn't exist for LUNs presented via FC. - Sean On Oct 4, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I wasn't clear... The limitation on the size of the LUN is the thing I'm not happy about. I don't care a bit about Dynamic disks, except insofar as they would help me overcome the 1.99tb limitation on LUNs on the EMC. The Lefthand wasn't crippled with that limitation on LUN size. I don't have experience with any other EMC products, but since they are a market leader, I'll bet that this limitation was a conscious decision on their part, and that their higher end products don't suffer from that limitation. Kurt On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: It's not an EMC limitation... http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectI D=c01812132lang=encc=ustaskId=101prodSeriesId=3936136prodTypeI d= 12169 - Sean On Oct 4, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: That's distressing, I must say. Not only doesn't the unit support LUNs larger than 1.99tb, they don't support Dynamic Disks. I'm loving my Lefthand more and more - I've got a 3tb LUN on it, and have no problems at all. On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I meant to be a tiny bit more helpful. Jump to page 202. - Sean On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have any practical experience but I've always run into compatibility issues when researching support for dynamic disks. I would start with EMC first. A quick google search turns up the following: https://elabnavigator.emc.com/emcpubs/elab/config_guide/windows.pd f - Sean On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: All, I've got an EMC VNXe3100. and a Win2k3 R2 VM as a file server using several 4 LUNs on it for its disks. All of the LUNs currently are set up as Basic disks, not dynamic, but are formatted as GPT. However, one of them has hit the extremely frustrating 1.99tb iSCSI LUN size limit for the VNXe, and I need to expand this disk to accommodate growth. Since I can't span a Basic disk, I'm looking at creating 2x1.99tb LUNs, marking them as Dynamic and formatted as GPT, then spanning them. At that point, I'd copy off the data from the old partition, shuffle drive letters and then delete the old LUN. But, when he heard about it, my manager had a bit of a fit over this, saying that using spanned Dynamic disks was bad juju. I've done some research, and found this article: Best practices for using dynamic disks on Windows Server 2003-based computers http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816307 I don't see any particular problems with this approach - does anyone have contrary advice/experience? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Backup software
Seconded. It replaced NetBackup for us here, and it's been a positive move for the most part. -sc -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 5:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup software FWIW I would thoroughly recommend Commvault. I have no experience of their AIX stuff (we do backup a Linux box) but with everything else we do, it has its quirks as all backup software does, but I don't walk in of a morning with that wonderful How many will have failed last night then? feeling. Any questions yell. -Original Message- From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] Sent: 03 August 2012 10:21 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup software Hi Ok point noted :-) Thanks -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: 03 August 2012 09:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup software Keep your licensing options in mind - a lot of vendors (I know Commvault do) now license either on traditional agents or off capacity - depending on quantity of data it can make a difference which way you go. Paul -Original Message- From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] Sent: 03 August 2012 09:23 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup software Hi Ok thanks for the suggestions So I will investigate Commvault and EMC I thinks the Microsoft solution would only support Microsoft clients As a lot of vendors do and that would be no use to use her :-( The problem for us is the old version of AIX that we HAVE to use one is a warehouse package and doesn't run on newer versions and of course would cost to upgrade it the other is an ERP system that wont work on a newer version and is about 60k to upgrade Thanks For the suggestions -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: 02 August 2012 15:59 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup software At (very) face value Commvault will cover all of that. -Original Message- From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] Sent: 02 August 2012 09:07 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup software Hi Looking to change our backup software and are open to recommendations Our servers are a range of Windows 2000 2003 with Exchange 2003 and a couple of version of Microsoft Sql server 2000 and 2005 We were looking at Symantec backup exec These machine will have a dedicated backup server and an lto5 tape drive We will backup to disk and then to tape (we have a requirement for an off site tape backup so this must remain) The backup will easily fit on 1 lto 5 tape and with data volumes this should be ok for 2-3 years HOWEVER We also have 2 IBM AIX servers running version 4.3.3 and version 5.1 These will backup again to a dedicated server with an ultrium 5 tape drive The IBM servers cant be upgraded! Looking for a supported solution We looked at backupexec and netbackup however only Older an now none supported version will work with our Aix versions the new version may work but would be unsupported! (no good for us) Also they are charging quite a high premium for backing up to tape Suggestions are welcome especially first hand experiences If any software is available that will do the whole thing (backup windows and Aix) this would be an advantage and of course keep down the costs Currently we are using OPENBACKUP now unsupported and are looking at ARKEIA (a spin-off of openbackup or parallel version) Nigel Parker Systems Engineer Ultraframe (UK) Ltd Tel: 01200 452329 Fax: 01200 452201 Web: www.ultraframe.com Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. The statements and opinions expressed in this email are my own and may not represent those of Ultraframe (UK) Ltd. This email is subject to copyright and the information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is sent out only for intended recipient(s). Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not an intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or other use or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and unlawful. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended
RE: [semi-OT] LinkSys router UI mockups
Now if they'd just include the DD-WRT or Tomato versions that we all _REALLY_ use... -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [semi-OT] LinkSys router UI mockups I figure this might come in handy for many: Cisco has published mockups of all their SOHO router configuration web user interfaces. http://ui.linksys.com/ So when you boss/coworker/friend/family/etc. calls asking for help getting their home Internet connection working again, you can follow along and tell them exactly what to click. Here's the latest firmware for the classic WRT54G, for example: http://ui.linksys.com/files/WRT54G/v1-v4/4.20.7/ -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT Yahoo PW breech
I have one for the couple of Yahoo Groups I _occasionally_ check. -sc From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT Yahoo PW breech How many folks deactivate an on-line account when they quit using it? I still have my Yahoo account, but mostly out of sentiment, was on of my first accounts. - Will On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: I find it hard to believe they have that many customers left. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT Yahoo PW breech What did you expect? They're yahoos. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: The most alarming part of the breach, TrustedSec said, was the fact that the passwords were stored completely unencrypted ... Well done, Yahoo... well done. -sc From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT Yahoo PW breech 450,000 plain text passwords. Probably from Yahoo Voices but that is unclear right now. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407015,00.asp ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: 2008R2 firewall ... grr.
That's one of the complaints I've had against the IPv6 stack being unbound in Windows being considered a non-supported configuration, amongst others. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 2:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: 2008R2 firewall ... grr. On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: ALL IP communication goes through the firewall in server 2008 r2. If you stop the firewall, no IP communication can occur. In my opinion, they shouldn't allow you to stop the service. I am of the opinion that everything not absolutely critical to the system at all times should be stoppable, if for no other reason than trouble-shooting. Note that that doesn't mean I think it's a good idea to run a production system that way. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: recommendations for Bluetooth stereo headset that multi-pairs and is not an earbud?
I have a Motorola S10... I like the build quality, and sound is reasonably good, but after a while the earbuds hurt my ears. They, as an endpoint, can be the target of multiple devices. I'm considering trying these, based on a recommendation I got: http://www.meritline.com/lg-hbs-700-wireless-stereo-bluetooth-headset-lg sgbs0005201---p-77447.aspx -sc -Original Message- From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: recommendations for Bluetooth stereo headset that multi-pairs and is not an earbud? Lot of conditions, I know. :-) But I'm looking for a *stereo* BT headset, that I can pair with both my Android phone and my iPad2. (most of the time I will be listening to music through it, but if a call comes in on the Android phone, I want to be able to take it directly. I've read reviews of many, but they either don't mention whether the headset will pair with more than one device (obviously not at the same time :-) without deleting the pairing on one device, or say that it will only pair with one device. To narrow it down even further, I dislike earbuds, and so would prefer over-the-ear style (altho I will take earbuds, if that is all that meets the 2 important requirements (stereo, and multi-pairing). Thanks, and sorry for the silly questions. I have a friend who really likes a Jaybird model with his Iphone ... but it's earbuds. Another really likes his Motorola S10 .. again, earbuds (and supposedly, not good sound). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE- Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: InfoSec compliance
Computer use and security policies require annual refresher courses (CBT) and electronic signature (via badge # and password) or else your account is disabled. -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: InfoSec compliance Physical signature at time of hire. Outlook voting response every year following. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Assuming you guys have employees confirm they've read and understand the computer use policies, how do you guys deliver and track this so later you can say look here's our confirmation that you said you did read and understand it? E-mail? Web survery / test? Paper? Other? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Re-cabling
And... deepsurplus has a habit of occasionally sending a pack of skittles in your box as a bonus. Once we got like 8 packs in a big order. -sc -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Re-cabling Looks like Deepsurplus.com beats Monoprice.com as well, which impresses me a bit. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:31:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Re-cabling Thanks guys. Dave, deepsurplus.com is much cheaper than my normal vendor, cablestogo. Thanks for the info. Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com 6/20/2012 10:20 AM On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: What are your preferences? Cable color by rack, system, type, etc? It's just aesthetics but I'm looking for ideas. If you want it to look pretty, use the same color for each rack/switch. Otherwise that's more confusing than helpful. Categorizing by VLAN or type of traffic makes some sense. E.g., yellow is DMZ, blue is main LAN, green is SAN, etc. Using a rainbow spread to each rack makes some sense. Makes it easier to tell cables apart when you're hunting for or tracing a particular cable. There are some standards for cable sheath color coding, but the ones I'm aware of are all facility-wide in scope. Most of your in-datacenter cabling would be the same color under such schemes. So I wouldn't call those helpful for this. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Re-cabling
We had switches with those instead of RJ-4s as well.. and had fan-out cables. Without the intermediary patch panel, they are a pain. They might work OK for the patch trunk though. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Re-cabling On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: Rather than pulling cable all the way down in to the racks, you might want to think about putting a 24 or 48 port panel in the top (back) of each rack and then running short patch cables from there. Then on the other end you can cross connect to the switch or whatever. Back in the days of = 100 meg, you could buy CAT5 cables and patch panels with 50-pin telco connectors. So you could then connect 12 ports on a patch panel using a single cable. This saved labor, cable space, and made things neater, as you only had to run one or two trunk cables to each rack. I don't know if that's still feasible for = gig. It uses all four pairs, so you'd only get 6 ports per connector. The cross-talk requirements are also much stricter, so it may flat-out violate spec. But even if one can't do the single connector method, you can buy cable assembles which bundle a bunch of 4-pair RJ-45 lines into a single outer sheath. That still might make cable management better. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Re-cabling
I think we got one or two without... so I wasn't sure it was every one or not... I wonder what their deal with them is... -sc -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Re-cabling I got Skittles with every order, even ones of 10 cables or so. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Re-cabling And... deepsurplus has a habit of occasionally sending a pack of skittles in your box as a bonus. Once we got like 8 packs in a big order. -sc -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Re-cabling Looks like Deepsurplus.com beats Monoprice.com as well, which impresses me a bit. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:31:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Re-cabling Thanks guys. Dave, deepsurplus.com is much cheaper than my normal vendor, cablestogo. Thanks for the info. Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com 6/20/2012 10:20 AM On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: What are your preferences? Cable color by rack, system, type, etc? It's just aesthetics but I'm looking for ideas. If you want it to look pretty, use the same color for each rack/switch. Otherwise that's more confusing than helpful. Categorizing by VLAN or type of traffic makes some sense. E.g., yellow is DMZ, blue is main LAN, green is SAN, etc. Using a rainbow spread to each rack makes some sense. Makes it easier to tell cables apart when you're hunting for or tracing a particular cable. There are some standards for cable sheath color coding, but the ones I'm aware of are all facility-wide in scope. Most of your in-datacenter cabling would be the same color under such schemes. So I wouldn't call those helpful for this. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows XP DNS Cache Retention time question
I have noticed this as well. And not just IE. It seems it's not uncommon for an app to use the local host API's to get an address, and then continue using that address for the life of its own process (or at least for some extended period). Close and re-spawn the process, and the subsequent OS API call to get the IP address results in getting the correct new one. -sc -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows XP DNS Cache Retention time question Also it seems IE has its own cache. You can ipconfig /flushdns and if IE is open when you do it...it seems to still not get it right. Close IE and flush and all is well. Huh? As in, Internet Explorer doesn't get the /FLUSHDNS right unless it's closed when the /FLUSHDNS command is run? Interesting if true... Dave -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows XP DNS Cache Retention time question One day. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318803 Also it seems IE has it's own cache. You can ipconfig /flushdns and if IE is open when you do it...it seems to still not get it right. Close IE and flush and all is well. -Original Message- From: Brunton [mailto:bmacd5...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows XP DNS Cache Retention time question One of our users somehow ended up with an incorrect address in DNS nslookup hismachine returned two addresses, neither of which were correct. After clearing the host record (not ptr records existed) I ran ipconfig /registerdns on his machine and his correct address appeared, along with the correct ptr record. My own machine, though retained the bogus IP address in the local DNS cache, and I could see it with ipconfig /displaydns I flushed the dns cache, and all was sweetness and light. The question: How long does dynamic DNS data remain in the cache? Especially helpful would be a link to where this is documented. Thanks, --BM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Active Directory Appliance?
I didn't see him demanding any of those. -sc On Jun 13, 2012 5:38 PM, Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com wrote: Cheap/easy/fast Pick two Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Active Directory Appliance? Not interested in anything home-brewed. On Jun 13, 2012 4:41 PM, Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com wrote: Used P4 with 2G RAM, 500M hard drive: ~100 Your favorite flavor of Linux distro: free DNS and DHCP: free with OS Image it, lock it down tight and let 'er rip. Daniel Chenault dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Active Directory Appliance? My Google-fu seems to be failing me. I know that infoblox has DNS and DHCP hardware appliances, but I don't see anything for Active Directory 2003/2008. I'm only interested in this for remote offices, not for my core. The idea would be to eliminate buying a server, maintaining that server, the OS, etc, for our remote offices. Does such exist, and if so, does the collective brain trust have any experience with them? TIA, Jonathan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed. Finally answered as only joe could
Great article... thanks... -sc -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed. Finally answered as only joe could Thanks for the links I will read up on Monday, good old Joe, always got the 411 on AD stuff.. Z Edward Ziots CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed. Finally answered as only joe could If you know joe, you know he often goes to extraordinary lengths to get to the bottom of things. I know many have struggled with this at various times since the NT days. This is a perfect example of the explanation- http://blog.joeware.net/2012/06/05/2508/ And the resultant tool - MachinePwd http://blog.joeware.net/2012/06/07/2513/ Thanks joe! You make us look good once again :-] paste Quick Summary of what most people will use it for? 1.You see a message on a member machine (workstation or server) that says The Trust Relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed.. 2.You log onto the machine with administrator credentials (either local or cached as specified by DaveS in the previous post) 3.You have someone reset the machine account in Active Directory, this can be done via ADUC or if you look at the usage for MachinePwd it will show you how to do it with adfind and admod. Whatever you do, just get the password on the machine account set to the lowercase version of its name. I.E. A machine that was named LIVEHAPPY should have the password set to livehappy. 4.Open an administrator privilege command prompt (i.e. if using UAC you must do RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR) 5.Run the machinepwd utility with the fix switch... Ex: machinepwd /fix 6.You should be fixed. ./paste ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Friday (kinda) Funny
The one thing that I do like about APC are their rack-mounted power strips they are built like tanks... whereas the plastic HP crap we had actually began to disintegrate after a while. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 3:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Friday (kinda) Funny On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Ben M. Schorr b...@rolandschorr.com wrote: I never had to buy one of their proprietary cables - I always got one in the box with the unit. That said...considering what I've seen in the field between APC and other brands I'd gladly spend the $28 to have the reliability and support of APC if I had to. I haven't found APC to be anything special. I've had several of their units drop the load during a self-test. I've had multiple units have the batteries swell up and get jammed in the chassis, requiring extensive dismantling to be removed. The LE1200 voltage regulators seem to have a design flaw where the tap selector relay gets stuck and won't start under load; their support people will replace the unit if it's under warranty, but seem unable to understand the concept of a design flaw. Note that I say I haven't found APC to be *special*. That means they're no better, but also no worse, than any other brand of UPS. They all seem to suck in various ways. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed. Finally answered as only joe could
Of course 'abracadabra' was as well. -sc -Original Message- From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed. Finally answered as only joe could If you know joe, you know he often goes to extraordinary lengths to get to the bottom of things. I know many have struggled with this at various times since the NT days. This is a perfect example of the explanation- http://blog.joeware.net/2012/06/05/2508/ And the resultant tool - MachinePwd http://blog.joeware.net/2012/06/07/2513/ Thanks joe! You make us look good once again :-] paste Quick Summary of what most people will use it for? 1.You see a message on a member machine (workstation or server) that says The Trust Relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed.. 2.You log onto the machine with administrator credentials (either local or cached as specified by DaveS in the previous post) 3.You have someone reset the machine account in Active Directory, this can be done via ADUC or if you look at the usage for MachinePwd it will show you how to do it with adfind and admod. Whatever you do, just get the password on the machine account set to the lowercase version of its name. I.E. A machine that was named LIVEHAPPY should have the password set to livehappy. 4.Open an administrator privilege command prompt (i.e. if using UAC you must do RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR) 5.Run the machinepwd utility with the fix switch... Ex: machinepwd /fix 6.You should be fixed. ./paste ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Flame bait...
There's a lot being made of (portions of) it being written in Lua Which seems to be a tad unusual . -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flame bait... Given that is has been successfully running for at least 2 years, and possibly more, I'd say it has already been a success. I'm still looking for evidence that its payload isn't at least partially encrypted. Flame is controlled via an SSL channel by a CC infrastructure spread all around the world, ranging from 50 (Kaspersky) to 80 (CrySyS) different domains; http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2012/05/flame-a-cyberweapon-that- makes-stuxnet-look-cheap/ ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: If this was such a sophisticated piece of malware, it could have just encrypted everything prior to sending it out: to a scanner it would just look like binary gibberish. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2012 7:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Flame bait... So, this is getting a lot of hype right now: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9227524/Researchers_identify_Stux net_like_malware_called_Flame_ And a thought just occurred to me... A lot of gateways that scan things (email, web, etc. - and a lot of AV programs on end points, too) are configured to ignore chunks of data over a megabyte or two... I wonder if that has played to the advantage of this bit of malware? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: http://fqdn/owa works interally but not externally
Tried telnetting to that FQDN:port and see if you get any response? -sc From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: http://fqdn/owa works interally but not externally There is a proxy of some kinds, because http://fqdn http://%3cfqdn from the Internet is a different IP than what the real box is. It acts very much like /owa simply drops the connection if it's an external connection attempt. It's just bizarre to me that via the Internet I can get to http://fqdn http://%3cfqdn and http://fqdn/exchange http://%3cfqdn%3e/exchange (it at least throws an error on this page) but not /owa...nuthin. From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: http://fqdn/owa http://%3cfqdn%3e/owa works interally but not externally Does the request show up in the IIS log? What's the status code? What's between the CAS server and the user - firewalls, load balancers, reverse proxies, etc? Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: http://fqdn/owa http://%3cfqdn%3e/owa works interally but not externally 1. Inside the network, http://webmail.mydomain.com/owa works 2. From the Internet that URL does not However, http://webmail.mydomain.com gets me to the IIS7 landing page on the server, so I know the server is available in some fashion via Internet, but adding /owa doesn't even get me a 404 error, simple a Internet Explorer cannot display this page. Putting /Exchange instead of /owa I get a runtime error page. Anyone have ideas on what to look for? I have tried HTTP redirect and the IIS7 redirect but those give me the same non-result. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Flame bait...
And assumedly some pretty stringent testing... 0-day exploits, propagation, detection-evading, command and control behavior, etc... One would assume they'd want to test in private so as to avoid early detection by the AV community -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flame bait... Indeed. Goes to show that any language can be made to do things which were not intended by the language authors. I wonder if it will help shed light on who was involved in the development? Can you imagine the code review process for this level of malware? ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: There's a lot being made of (portions of) it being written in Lua Which seems to be a tad unusual . -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flame bait... Given that is has been successfully running for at least 2 years, and possibly more, I'd say it has already been a success. I'm still looking for evidence that its payload isn't at least partially encrypted. Flame is controlled via an SSL channel by a CC infrastructure spread all around the world, ranging from 50 (Kaspersky) to 80 (CrySyS) different domains; http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2012/05/flame-a-cyberweapon-that- makes-stuxnet-look-cheap/ ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: If this was such a sophisticated piece of malware, it could have just encrypted everything prior to sending it out: to a scanner it would just look like binary gibberish. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2012 7:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Flame bait... So, this is getting a lot of hype right now: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9227524/Researchers_identify_Stux net_like_malware_called_Flame_ And a thought just occurred to me... A lot of gateways that scan things (email, web, etc. - and a lot of AV programs on end points, too) are configured to ignore chunks of data over a megabyte or two... I wonder if that has played to the advantage of this bit of malware? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Flame bait...
That explains the hula module then. -sc From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Flame bait... It was written by a Hawaiian that wanted to put the hurt on someone. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Flame bait... There's a lot being made of (portions of) it being written in Lua Which seems to be a tad unusual . -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flame bait... Given that is has been successfully running for at least 2 years, and possibly more, I'd say it has already been a success. I'm still looking for evidence that its payload isn't at least partially encrypted. Flame is controlled via an SSL channel by a CC infrastructure spread all around the world, ranging from 50 (Kaspersky) to 80 (CrySyS) different domains; http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2012/05/flame-a-cyberweapon-that- makes-stuxnet-look-cheap/ ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: If this was such a sophisticated piece of malware, it could have just encrypted everything prior to sending it out: to a scanner it would just look like binary gibberish. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2012 7:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Flame bait... So, this is getting a lot of hype right now: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9227524/Researchers_identify_Stux net_like_malware_called_Flame_ And a thought just occurred to me... A lot of gateways that scan things (email, web, etc. - and a lot of AV programs on end points, too) are configured to ignore chunks of data over a megabyte or two... I wonder if that has played to the advantage of this bit of malware? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: http://fqdn/owa works interally but not externally
Good deal. The external FW/proxy is something you can control directly? -sc From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: http://fqdn/owa works interally but not externally We have a winner! :80 works, :443 does not. Not requiring SSL gets me to the website, so I need to make sure 443 is being allowed. Makes me wonder how it was configured before, but thanks! Dave From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: http://fqdn/owa http://%3cfqdn%3e/owa works interally but not externally Tried telnetting to that FQDN:port and see if you get any response? -sc From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: http://fqdn/owa http://%3cfqdn%3e/owa works interally but not externally There is a proxy of some kinds, because http://fqdn http://%3cfqdn from the Internet is a different IP than what the real box is. It acts very much like /owa simply drops the connection if it's an external connection attempt. It's just bizarre to me that via the Internet I can get to http://fqdn http://%3cfqdn and http://fqdn/exchange http://%3cfqdn%3e/exchange (it at least throws an error on this page) but not /owa...nuthin. From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: http://fqdn/owa http://%3cfqdn%3e/owa works interally but not externally Does the request show up in the IIS log? What's the status code? What's between the CAS server and the user - firewalls, load balancers, reverse proxies, etc? Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: http://fqdn/owa http://%3cfqdn%3e/owa works interally but not externally 1. Inside the network, http://webmail.mydomain.com/owa works 2. From the Internet that URL does not However, http://webmail.mydomain.com gets me to the IIS7 landing page on the server, so I know the server is available in some fashion via Internet, but adding /owa doesn't even get me a 404 error, simple a Internet Explorer cannot display this page. Putting /Exchange instead of /owa I get a runtime error page. Anyone have ideas on what to look for? I have tried HTTP redirect and the IIS7 redirect but those give me the same non-result. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Flame bait...
I got that... hence my joke of one of the modules being something found at said lua-ow. :-) -sc From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Flame bait... I was thinking more in terms of lua-ow From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Flame bait... That explains the hula module then. -sc From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Flame bait... It was written by a Hawaiian that wanted to put the hurt on someone. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Flame bait... There's a lot being made of (portions of) it being written in Lua Which seems to be a tad unusual . -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Flame bait... Given that is has been successfully running for at least 2 years, and possibly more, I'd say it has already been a success. I'm still looking for evidence that its payload isn't at least partially encrypted. Flame is controlled via an SSL channel by a CC infrastructure spread all around the world, ranging from 50 (Kaspersky) to 80 (CrySyS) different domains; http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2012/05/flame-a-cyberweapon-that- makes-stuxnet-look-cheap/ ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: If this was such a sophisticated piece of malware, it could have just encrypted everything prior to sending it out: to a scanner it would just look like binary gibberish. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2012 7:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Flame bait... So, this is getting a lot of hype right now: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9227524/Researchers_identify_Stux net_like_malware_called_Flame_ And a thought just occurred to me... A lot of gateways that scan things (email, web, etc. - and a lot of AV programs on end points, too) are configured to ignore chunks of data over a megabyte or two... I wonder if that has played to the advantage of this bit of malware? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: http://fqdn/owa works interally but not externally
HTTPS ports? -sc From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: http://fqdn/owa works interally but not externally 1. Inside the network, http://webmail.mydomain.com/owa works 2. From the Internet that URL does not However, http://webmail.mydomain.com gets me to the IIS7 landing page on the server, so I know the server is available in some fashion via Internet, but adding /owa doesn't even get me a 404 error, simple a Internet Explorer cannot display this page. Putting /Exchange instead of /owa I get a runtime error page. Anyone have ideas on what to look for? I have tried HTTP redirect and the IIS7 redirect but those give me the same non-result. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Fluke devices
What do you need it to do. The recent Fluke we bought wasn’t cheap either, but we needed 10GBps capability which costs. -sc From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Fluke devices I have been quoted for an Optiview network analyzer about 36,000 €. Could somebody suggest a similar device with a more human price? TIA Guido Elia HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Time for new core switches
And we are moving away from them. Lack of reliability, their cost/port density value is dropping, and they've given us some bad info to make a sale (S-Series switches can run all ports at line rate... oh.. whoops... no they can't). -sc From: Derek Harris [mailto:dhar...@panoramaortho.com] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 2:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time for new core switches I've been running Enterasys switches exclusively for several years and am very happy with them http://www.enterasys.com/. Before that, I've had Cisco, 3Com, Dell. One cool thing about Enterasys is that the default configs make sense, like the default QOS settings. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time for new core switches http://www.dell.com/us/enterprise/p/force10-z-series In the datacenter. -sc From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Time for new core switches Hi Folks, My core switch bank is a series of 3COM (HP) 1GIG managed switches. They've worked very well. I don't think the exact model is made anymore, so I cannot add to the current bank. Looking at my options, what speeds are you now using for your core switches: 1 GB, 10, 100? We don't do any audio or AutoCad type of things here, but I do have several SANS that are connected to the core. I haven't run any port stats yet but I will. What about port size? Each of these switches has 24 ports. I could continue with smaller switches or look for a few switches with many ports. I recall seeing a Foundry core switch a few years ago and I think it had a few hundred ports. Thoughts? Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This e-mail may contain information that is privileged and confidential, the disclosure of which is governed by applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of the information is strictly prohibited. E-mail is inherently insecure and Panorama Orthopedics Spine Center will not accept responsibility for any disclosure or loss of information as a result of this electronic communication. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Introduction to Data Deduplication in Windows Server 2012
Given that dedupe is architected as a filter driver, and ReFS expects to be largely compatible with most filter drivers, even from 3rd parties, I'd expect yes. -sc -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 2:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Introduction to Data Deduplication in Windows Server 2012 Yes and Deduplication (Depending on which edition you get). But can I run Deduplication on ReFS? I don't see an answer to that question. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 21 May 2012 10:55:43 -0700 Subject: RE: Introduction to Data Deduplication in Windows Server 2012 From my understanding 2012 will ship with ReFS out of the box. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Subject: Re: Introduction to Data Deduplication in Windows Server 2012 There's no mention of ReFS and Deduplication working together... Anybody know if this will work (or not) on the new Windows 2012? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Introduction to Data Deduplication in Windows Server 2012
Oh, well there you go. -sc -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 2:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Introduction to Data Deduplication in Windows Server 2012 Actually, a link in the main article: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831700#BKMK_Step1 says: Volumes that are candidates for deduplication must conform to the following requirements: Must not be a system or boot volume. Deduplication is not supported on operating system volumes. Volumes may be partitioned MBR or GPT and must be formatted using the NTFS file system. Volumes may reside on shared storage, such as a Fibre Channel or SAS array, or an iSCSI SAN and Microsoft Failover Clustering is fully supported. Cluster Shared Volumes (CSVs) are not supported. ***Microsoft's new Resilient File System (ReFS) is not supported.*** Volumes must be exposed to Windows as non-removable drives. Remotely- mapped drives are not supported. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 12:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Introduction to Data Deduplication in Windows Server 2012 From my understanding 2012 will ship with ReFS out of the box. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Subject: Re: Introduction to Data Deduplication in Windows Server 2012 There's no mention of ReFS and Deduplication working together... Anybody know if this will work (or not) on the new Windows 2012? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copying a Windows partition made difficult
Ahh, very good. Time for a blog entry somewhere... -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copying a Windows partition made difficult Success! I'll write the details up in full later, but the short(ish) version is: The hidden sectors field of the NTFS Partition Boot Record actually appears to be used by the NT bootstrap to locate the partition. If I change this field to contain the LBA of the first sector of the partition, my old/copied/broken partition becomes my old/copied/WORKING partition. Since Win XP lives in the second partition on my disk, and I made the first partition bigger on my new disk, the starting LBA of the XP partition changed. The hidden sectors field was now pointing into the middle of a Linux partition. Microsoft's documentation states this field is Not used or checked by NTFS. Which, I guess, technically speaking, is true. The bootstrap is not NTFS. But Windows won't boot if this field is wrong, so they *might* have mentioned that. Grrr. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes
I do prefer direct Exchange sync as well. Why a simple thing like Notes syncing was dropped is beyond me. I ended up using Touchdown for Android because it syncs tasks/calendar as well as mail... but no Notes. -sc -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Looks like OneNote might work. I am not happy about having to use a cloud solution to sync this stuff. I really would like exchange to do the syncing. Bill Tobie Fysh wrote: OneNote here with the master living in SkyDrive have my notes synced across desktop, laptop and Windows Phone. *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 03 May 2012 04:34 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes And for OneNote Go into Outlook Notes, Select them all Right Click and 'Send to OneNote' No add on needed :) On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Incidentally, I went into my Outlook Notes area, chose all notes, and used the Evernote add-in for Outlook and exported everything to Evernote. Quick and easy. One other thing for synching Outlook notes, if you use Android. I keep Outlook synched with Android using CompanionLink. http://www.companionlink.com/ *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:22 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes That's what I've been using as well... -sc *From:* Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:16 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes That's why I use Evernote. Evernote works the same across Android, iOS, Windows - even the Windows 8 app (downloadable from the Windows 8 market). OneNote is great coupled with Outlook and Exchange, but when you use multiple devices, it's not a great solution. Evernote does notes and more. *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] mailto:%5Bmailto:scaes...@caesare.com%5D *Sent:* Wednesday, May 02, 2012 6:59 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes I wish the Android version wasn't so feature stripped. -sc *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] mailto:%5Bmailto:michealespin...@gmail.com%5D *Sent:* Wednesday, May 02, 2012 6:55 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes OneNote is surprisingly awesome. I'm a converted true believer. -- Espi On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Trees, Ray rtr...@key.net mailto:rtr...@key.net wrote: I'm using OneNote as well and found that I like the flexibility and formatting. I have copied most of my notes from Outlook into OneNote so I have them. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Hey guys, anyone here using windows phone found a reasonable solution for syncing exchange/outlook notes to your phone? I'm really missing this and my google-fu is failing me. Since I'm so OT anyway, I'll go ahead and day I'm really liking the windows phone interface, just missing some of my favorite apps right now. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - Key Technology, Inc. Disclaimer Notice - The information and attachment(s) contained in this communication are intended for the addressee only, and may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately, and delete this communication from any computer or network system. Any interception, review, printing, copying, re-transmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited by law and may subject them to criminal or civil liability. Key Technology, Inc. is not liable for the improper and/or incomplete transmission of the information contained
RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes
Thirded. -sc From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Same here. I have that option for emails, but not for Notes. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes I have it for Evernote (which I use extensively, since it's supported on my Kindle), but not for OneNote. And I do have OneNote installed too. From: Trees, Ray [mailto:rtr...@key.net] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Strange, I can't find that option but it would be very handy. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes And for OneNote Go into Outlook Notes, Select them all Right Click and 'Send to OneNote' No add on needed :) On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Incidentally, I went into my Outlook Notes area, chose all notes, and used the Evernote add-in for Outlook and exported everything to Evernote. Quick and easy. One other thing for synching Outlook notes, if you use Android. I keep Outlook synched with Android using CompanionLink. http://www.companionlink.com/ From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes That's what I've been using as well... -sc From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes That's why I use Evernote. Evernote works the same across Android, iOS, Windows - even the Windows 8 app (downloadable from the Windows 8 market). OneNote is great coupled with Outlook and Exchange, but when you use multiple devices, it's not a great solution. Evernote does notes and more. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 6:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes I wish the Android version wasn't so feature stripped. -sc From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 6:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes OneNote is surprisingly awesome. I'm a converted true believer. -- Espi On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Trees, Ray rtr...@key.net wrote: I'm using OneNote as well and found that I like the flexibility and formatting. I have copied most of my notes from Outlook into OneNote so I have them. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Hey guys, anyone here using windows phone found a reasonable solution for syncing exchange/outlook notes to your phone? I'm really missing this and my google-fu is failing me. Since I'm so OT anyway, I'll go ahead and day I'm really liking the windows phone interface, just missing some of my favorite apps right now. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - Key Technology, Inc. Disclaimer Notice - The information and attachment(s) contained in this communication are intended for the addressee only, and may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately, and delete this communication from any computer or network system. Any interception, review, printing, copying, re-transmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited by law and may subject them to criminal or civil liability. Key Technology, Inc. is not liable for the improper and/or incomplete transmission of the information contained in this communication or for any delay in its receipt. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog
RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes
_GOING_ crazy? Come join us... it's warm here. -sc From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Hrmm. I did that from memory and now that I am at work I don't see it on Office 2010. I wonder if it was in 2007 version or I'm just slowly going crazy. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Thirded. -sc From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Same here. I have that option for emails, but not for Notes. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes I have it for Evernote (which I use extensively, since it's supported on my Kindle), but not for OneNote. And I do have OneNote installed too. From: Trees, Ray [mailto:rtr...@key.net] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Strange, I can't find that option but it would be very handy. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes And for OneNote Go into Outlook Notes, Select them all Right Click and 'Send to OneNote' No add on needed :) On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Incidentally, I went into my Outlook Notes area, chose all notes, and used the Evernote add-in for Outlook and exported everything to Evernote. Quick and easy. One other thing for synching Outlook notes, if you use Android. I keep Outlook synched with Android using CompanionLink. http://www.companionlink.com/ From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes That's what I've been using as well... -sc From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes That's why I use Evernote. Evernote works the same across Android, iOS, Windows - even the Windows 8 app (downloadable from the Windows 8 market). OneNote is great coupled with Outlook and Exchange, but when you use multiple devices, it's not a great solution. Evernote does notes and more. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 6:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes I wish the Android version wasn't so feature stripped. -sc From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 6:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes OneNote is surprisingly awesome. I'm a converted true believer. -- Espi On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Trees, Ray rtr...@key.net wrote: I'm using OneNote as well and found that I like the flexibility and formatting. I have copied most of my notes from Outlook into OneNote so I have them. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Hey guys, anyone here using windows phone found a reasonable solution for syncing exchange/outlook notes to your phone? I'm really missing this and my google-fu is failing me. Since I'm so OT anyway, I'll go ahead and day I'm really liking the windows phone interface, just missing some of my favorite apps right now. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - Key Technology, Inc. Disclaimer Notice - The information and attachment(s) contained in this communication are intended for the addressee only, and may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately, and delete this communication from any computer or network system. Any interception, review, printing, copying, re-transmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited by law and may subject them to criminal or civil liability. Key Technology, Inc. is not liable for the improper
RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes
Certifiable... I've always heard that term used. Do you get a certificate? -sc From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Always have been crazyit really is not my fault. My Dad's dad was certifiably crazy (he had mental issues) and he died the exact day I was born. My dad was 28 at the time. So I come by it honestly. When people ask, I tell them I have a valid excuse for being nuts. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: _GOING_ crazy? Come join us... it's warm here. -sc From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Hrmm. I did that from memory and now that I am at work I don't see it on Office 2010. I wonder if it was in 2007 version or I'm just slowly going crazy. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Thirded. -sc From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Same here. I have that option for emails, but not for Notes. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes I have it for Evernote (which I use extensively, since it's supported on my Kindle), but not for OneNote. And I do have OneNote installed too. From: Trees, Ray [mailto:rtr...@key.net] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Strange, I can't find that option but it would be very handy. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes And for OneNote Go into Outlook Notes, Select them all Right Click and 'Send to OneNote' No add on needed :) On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Incidentally, I went into my Outlook Notes area, chose all notes, and used the Evernote add-in for Outlook and exported everything to Evernote. Quick and easy. One other thing for synching Outlook notes, if you use Android. I keep Outlook synched with Android using CompanionLink. http://www.companionlink.com/ From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes That's what I've been using as well... -sc From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes That's why I use Evernote. Evernote works the same across Android, iOS, Windows - even the Windows 8 app (downloadable from the Windows 8 market). OneNote is great coupled with Outlook and Exchange, but when you use multiple devices, it's not a great solution. Evernote does notes and more. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 6:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes I wish the Android version wasn't so feature stripped. -sc From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 6:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes OneNote is surprisingly awesome. I'm a converted true believer. -- Espi On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Trees, Ray rtr...@key.net wrote: I'm using OneNote as well and found that I like the flexibility and formatting. I have copied most of my notes from Outlook into OneNote so I have them. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Hey guys, anyone here using windows phone found a reasonable solution for syncing exchange/outlook notes to your phone? I'm really missing this and my google-fu is failing me. Since I'm so OT anyway, I'll go ahead and day I'm really liking the windows phone interface, just missing some of my favorite apps right now. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - Key Technology, Inc. Disclaimer Notice - The information and attachment(s) contained
RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes
I wish the Android version wasn't so feature stripped. -sc From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 6:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes OneNote is surprisingly awesome. I'm a converted true believer. -- Espi On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Trees, Ray rtr...@key.net wrote: I'm using OneNote as well and found that I like the flexibility and formatting. I have copied most of my notes from Outlook into OneNote so I have them. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Hey guys, anyone here using windows phone found a reasonable solution for syncing exchange/outlook notes to your phone? I'm really missing this and my google-fu is failing me. Since I'm so OT anyway, I'll go ahead and day I'm really liking the windows phone interface, just missing some of my favorite apps right now. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - Key Technology, Inc. Disclaimer Notice - The information and attachment(s) contained in this communication are intended for the addressee only, and may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately, and delete this communication from any computer or network system. Any interception, review, printing, copying, re-transmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited by law and may subject them to criminal or civil liability. Key Technology, Inc. is not liable for the improper and/or incomplete transmission of the information contained in this communication or for any delay in its receipt. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes
That's what I've been using as well... -sc From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes That's why I use Evernote. Evernote works the same across Android, iOS, Windows - even the Windows 8 app (downloadable from the Windows 8 market). OneNote is great coupled with Outlook and Exchange, but when you use multiple devices, it's not a great solution. Evernote does notes and more. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 6:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:windows phone and outlook notes I wish the Android version wasn't so feature stripped. -sc From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 6:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:windows phone and outlook notes OneNote is surprisingly awesome. I'm a converted true believer. -- Espi On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Trees, Ray rtr...@key.net wrote: I'm using OneNote as well and found that I like the flexibility and formatting. I have copied most of my notes from Outlook into OneNote so I have them. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT:windows phone and outlook notes Hey guys, anyone here using windows phone found a reasonable solution for syncing exchange/outlook notes to your phone? I'm really missing this and my google-fu is failing me. Since I'm so OT anyway, I'll go ahead and day I'm really liking the windows phone interface, just missing some of my favorite apps right now. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - Key Technology, Inc. Disclaimer Notice - The information and attachment(s) contained in this communication are intended for the addressee only, and may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately, and delete this communication from any computer or network system. Any interception, review, printing, copying, re-transmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited by law and may subject them to criminal or civil liability. Key Technology, Inc. is not liable for the improper and/or incomplete transmission of the information contained in this communication or for any delay in its receipt. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copying a Windows partition made difficult
Based on his original post, I believe the desire was to learn the why of the behavior, as opposed to just obtaining a black box that performed the magic on his behalf. That having been said, thanks for the pointer. -sc -Original Message- From: Ken Slotkowski [mailto:kgslot...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copying a Windows partition made difficult Ben, It's possible that you new larger HD has not been made active, just a guess. I found the best utility for moving an OS or a whole HD with or without partitions is TeraByte's 'Image for Linux'. Don't let the title fool you, it will copy any HD partition including DOS or Windows. Use it with either a bootable CD or UFD. See: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-linux.htm I never had an issue with it. Try it you'll like it! Ken ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Commvault Training
I'll second some of the sentiments regarding background of the folks you expect to be operating the system. I'll also add the value of the data and how stringent your requirements are as factors. We migrated to CommVault from NetBackup. The policy based backup was something not completely unfamiliar, so we could have probably figured it out without training. However, we were also planning in implementing some de-dupe and D2D options, as well as looking to delegate some restore capability to other teams. We also serve a government customer with some regulation requirements (HIPAA, etc...) that may require encryption as well as specific retention policies for volatile data. Thus, to cover our bases, we opted for a combination of on-site professional services as well as some training. Data storage is not a place I care to say whoops as a result of uneducated administration staff for. -sc -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Commvault Training OK we are looking at Commvault, it is recommended by our storage vendor. We have outgrown the capabilities of our current backup software and need something new. In our quote for Commvault the vendor quotes and STRONGLY encourages us to purchase 3 full days of training. Does anyone have suggestions as to why 3 full days of training would be necessary for Commvault? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: CyberLink PowerDirector is a buggy piece of sh!t
I've only played briefly with one of the Lightworks betas, and it had a reasonably complete feature set, but it was earlier in their development cycle, and I don't know how stable it may have been for a full project. Looking, I see they are scheduled for release in about a month, so it might be something you want to take for a spin... http://www.lightworksbeta.com/ -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 8:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: CyberLink PowerDirector is a buggy piece of sh!t On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: I couldnt agree more. Well, since we're here... anyone have a recommendation for decent non- linear video editing software which *doesn't* require one to take out a second mortgage? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: CyberLink PowerDirector is a buggy piece of sh!t
Sure. I'm still inclined to agree APC's SW sucks tho'. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: CyberLink PowerDirector is a buggy piece of sh!t On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I've only played briefly with one of the Lightworks betas, and it had a reasonably complete feature set, but it was earlier in their development cycle, and I don't know how stable it may have been for a full project. Looking, I see they are scheduled for release in about a month, so it might be something you want to take for a spin... http://www.lightworksbeta.com/ Well, that also looks mighty interesting. Thanks! Maybe this mispost was a happy accident after all. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: CyberLink PowerDirector is a buggy piece of sh!t
The Creative Suite team at Adobe seem to have remained relatively uninfected by the Acrobat/Reader team... although the peoduct is still plagued by funky installation routines. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: CyberLink PowerDirector is a buggy piece of sh!t On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Kramer, Jack jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu wrote: Have you tried Premiere? They have a cheap version now. I haven't tried Premier, because (1) last I looked they only had expensive versions, and (2) it's an Adobe product, and every other Adobe product I've used has been a source of pain. If I exhaust my other options I'll think about it. Thanks. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: IE trusted sites
There's been some discussion here on the list recently of the IE GPO mechanism being broken... and that a lot of folks avoid them... and use the IEAK instead(?) -sc From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IE trusted sites Do many of you guys manage them via GPO in your org? I've been doing it only a short while (months) and it seems like more headache than it's worth...and now I can't fully remember WHY... David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: CyberLink PowerDirector is a buggy piece of sh!t
No worries. I'll take it as a recommendation against. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 6:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: CyberLink PowerDirector is a buggy piece of sh!t I sent this to the wrong email address. My face is red. Sorry for the noise, folks. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
I viewed it as Withdrew until a more favorable time presented itself. -sc From: Mack Bolan [mailto:mack.bola...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal I heard it was a short discussion, and - WJR lost. Mack S. Bolan On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Improved is subject to some debate. Or so I've heard. -sc From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal My initials. There's been some consternation of late regarding my switch of my nome de gare. Hence the NewAndImprovedWill(tm) - Will http://sale.images.woot.com/Air_Quothhs7Detail.png On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 20:21, Lora Cates lora.ca...@rocketmail.com wrote: Oh my, well I didn't mean to start the popcorn affair! WJR? -lc From: Webster webs...@carlwebster.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:19 PM Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal You have it all wrong there Lora. It is just that WJR is a scab. LOL But I better be careful, WJR knows where I live. :-) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Well it's a pleasure to meet you sir. The books you've co-authored as well as your partner's JoeWare, have saved my collective bacon a few times, so thank you. :) It's looking like I'm going to follow the latter scenario as the largest child also houses the Exchange 2003 environment. Sorry if I hit a scab between you and Mr. Robbins. :) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
You have NO idea. -sc From: Mack Bolan [mailto:mack.bola...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal And the answer is always disappointing. Mack S. Bolan On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Who is -sc? That question has been asked many a time. -sc From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Wow. Nice title. :) Who is -sc? What if I'm a lawyer, and can show evidence I've had this trademark longer than he filed for alleged patent? Or better yet, you assume I'm subject to your patent laws. :) -lc From: Webster webs...@carlwebster.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:29 PM Subject: RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Andrew prefers Sir lord most royal highness of knowledge [1] but none of us stoop that low. BTW, ASB has a trademark on Indeed (tm). Any time you use Indeed (tm) ASB must be sent a check [2] for $0.02US. BTW #2, -sc has patented the use of -?c or the use of the - followed by any Unicode character followed by a c. That is patent infringement and you will probably be hearing from -sc's lawyer tomorrow (as soon as he[3] sobers up). Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.carlwebster.com/ 1. Indeed (tm) 2. Indeed (tm) 3. The lawyer that is. -sc is rarely sober. From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Subject: Re: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Tis a good behavior, and you'll have to trust I typically do better. Was just caught up in asking hypothetical vs. real world questions to enlighten myself. :) Andrew, or as it appears he prefers ASB, has lots of good information there, thanks again! -lc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
Not just the initial one... ALL of them. -sc -Original Message- From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal OIC...a fellow initial signature. ;) -lc From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:52 PM Subject: RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Who is -sc? That question has been asked many a time. -sc From:Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Wow. Nice title. :) Who is -sc? What if I'm a lawyer, and can show evidence I've had this trademark longer than he filed for alleged patent? Or better yet, you assume I'm subject to your patent laws. :) -lc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
FTFY -Original Message- From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal I shall see you in court then. Will you be administering lashes as well? -lc From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:27 PM Subject: RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal The injunction has already been filed. -sc From:Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 8:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Andrew prefers “Sir lord most royal highness of knowledge [1]” but none of us stoop that low. BTW, ASB has a trademark on “Indeed ™”. Any time you use “Indeed ™” ASB must be sent a check [2] for $0.02US. BTW #2, -sc has patented the use of -?c or the use of the “-” followed by any Unicode character followed by a “c”. That is patent infringement and you will probably be hearing from -sc’s lawyer tomorrow (as soon as he[3] sobers up). Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.carlwebster.com/ 1. Indeed ™ 2. Indeed ™ 3. The lawyer that is. -sc is rarely sober. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
Improvement is improvement, no matter how small. -sc From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Bragging again aren't you? Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: scaes...@caesare.com scaes...@caesare.com Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal For all of about 30 seconds. -sc From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Yes, that's what she says. From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal This gets better all the time! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
The sound one makes when exhaling through gritted teeth. -sc From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Domain local vs. global vs. universal FTFY? -lc From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:55 AM Subject: RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal FTFY -Original Message- From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal I shall see you in court then. Will you be administering lashes as well? -lc From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:27 PM Subject: RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal The injunction has already been filed. -sc From:Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 8:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Andrew prefers “Sir lord most royal highness of knowledge [1]” but none of us stoop that low. BTW, ASB has a trademark on “Indeed ™”. Any time you use “Indeed ™” ASB must be sent a check [2] for $0.02US. BTW #2, -sc has patented the use of -?c or the use of the “-” followed by any Unicode character followed by a “c”. That is patent infringement and you will probably be hearing from -sc’s lawyer tomorrow (as soon as he[3] sobers up). Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.carlwebster.com/ http://www.carlwebster.com/%0d%0a 1. Indeed ™ 2. Indeed ™ 3. The lawyer that is. -sc is rarely sober. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- http://lyris.sunbelt-%0d%0a software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/%0d%0a or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
Don't I know it. -sc From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 1:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Just remember - you are the one that said small. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Improvement is improvement, no matter how small. -sc From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Bragging again aren't you? Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: scaes...@caesare.com scaes...@caesare.com Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal For all of about 30 seconds. -sc From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Yes, that's what she says. From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal This gets better all the time! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant
Indeed.[1] An interesting factoid is that GEOS actually started out as an embedded OS targeted for an airline passenger seatback console that was based on the 6502 series chipset. When that fell through, Berkeley Softworks finally ended up re-purposing their kernel by adding all of the necessary doodads to make it a general-purpose OS and releasing it for the C=64. In addition to the GeoProgrammer reference Guide, did anybody ever get the Hitchhikers Guide to GEOS? It was the internal Berkeley Softworks documentation on the kernel routines that eventually got published. It's got hand written notes and corrections that would eventually have been prettied up for publication... but the product never made it that far... I have it as a PDF around somewhere... -sc [1] ((c)ASB). From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant GEOS -- pure, assembler awesomeness. Sigh. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I bought the Schnedler Systems 4Mhz turbo accelerator for mine (http://vintagetech.netii.net/DRIVERS/TURBO-MASTER-CPU.jpg) and the Berkely Softworks 512K RAM expansion unit to run GEOS. Was big pimpin' for the 8bit days. -sc From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant I sold my C64 so I could use the cash towards buying my Amiga. I loved that Amiga. From: Guyer, Donald [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2012 4:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant LOL I sold my C64 years ago to a guy who had plans to make it into a HAM radio of some sort. Regards, Don Guyer Directory and Messaging Services Catholic Health East, ITSS From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant Even nostalgia has limits... On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Guyer, Donald dgu...@che.org wrote: Makes me want to start loading a game, using the cassette player Go eat dinner Then, go back and still have to wait for it to finish loading.. :-) Regards, Don Guyer Directory and Messaging Services Catholic Health East, ITSS From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 1:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant Makes me want to go play Bard's Tale I-III or Ultima II-V (never played Ultima). On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: Mine too. I have my Vic-20 and C=64 in the attic. Erik Goldoff wrote: :( Vic-20 and C=64 were my first two personal computers On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Commodore founder Jack Tramiel dead at 83 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9225995/Commodore_founder_Jack_Tr amiel_dead_at_83 Pet Vic20 C64 C128 Amiga Landmarks, each of them, and though he didn't have a hand in all of them, he pushed the personal computer industry forward in a big way. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality
RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant
Another cool word processor was PaperClip for the C=64.
Even though the text screen on the 64 was only 40 characters wide,
Paperclip had a preview mode where you could see what a full 80-char
wide page layout would look like buy displaying a width-scaled WYSIWYG
representation on its 320x200 screen, including text effects like bold
and underlining.
Many a homework assignment was written on that thing.
-sc
From: Jeff Frantz [mailto:jfra...@itstechnologies.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 8:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant
Yes, GEOS was pretty damned amazing. One can only imagine computing
power today if software were so efficient.
I recall saving money as a kid ('80 or '81) to buy the 16K expansion for
my VIC. PaperMate (word processor for the PET) didn't allow for much
text in 3K. It was $116. Good times!
I still remember reading the COMPUTE! article from the CES where they
described the Amiga Loraine with 4,096 colors. If I recall correctly,
they added something like, no, that was not a misprint because no one
would have believed such a crazy number of colors. I must have read
that article a hundred times dreaming of such a machine.
-Jeff
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant
GEOS -- pure, assembler awesomeness. Sigh.
ASB
http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Steven M. Caesare
scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
I bought the Schnedler Systems 4Mhz turbo accelerator for mine
(http://vintagetech.netii.net/DRIVERS/TURBO-MASTER-CPU.jpg) and the
Berkely Softworks 512K RAM expansion unit to run GEOS.
Was big pimpin' for the 8bit days.
-sc
From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant
I sold my C64 so I could use the cash towards buying my Amiga. I loved
that Amiga.
From: Guyer, Donald [mailto:dgu...@che.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2012 4:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant
LOL
I sold my C64 years ago to a guy who had plans to make it into a HAM
radio of some sort.
Regards,
Don Guyer
Directory and Messaging Services
Catholic Health East, ITSS
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant
Even nostalgia has limits...
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Guyer, Donald dgu...@che.org wrote:
Makes me want to start loading a game, using the cassette player
Go eat dinner
Then, go back and still have to wait for it to finish loading..
:-)
Regards,
Don Guyer
Directory and Messaging Services
Catholic Health East, ITSS
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 1:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant
Makes me want to go play Bard's Tale I-III or Ultima II-V (never played
Ultima).
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com
wrote:
Mine too. I have my Vic-20 and C=64 in the attic.
Erik Goldoff wrote:
:(
Vic-20 and C=64 were my first two personal computers
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
Commodore founder Jack Tramiel dead at 83
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9225995/Commodore_founder_Jack_Tr
amiel_dead_at_83
Pet
Vic20
C64
C128
Amiga
Landmarks, each of them, and though he didn't have a hand in all of
them, he pushed the personal computer industry forward in a big way.
Kurt
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RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant
Heh... very cool. Don't do anything with the 64 now, but cool retro walk down memory lane.. .thanks. -sc From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 6:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant I guess its time to plug my website then http://www.commodorefree.com/ I still use Commodore vic20/c64 and commodore 128 along with an amiga 600 1200 and 400/040 Software did appear that allowed MSdos applications to run on the Amiga without a board needing to be added Although I think from memory it took around 2 hours for me to install MSdos on my Amiga under software emulation Commodore were way ahead of things Thanks to Jack this is why my hobby turned into a job Computers for the masses not the classes Although if you read the magazine you will realise I still cant spell (spent to much time on the c64 instead of school I guess) Nigel Parker Systems Engineer Ultraframe (UK) Ltd Tel: 01200 452329 Fax: 01200 452201 Web: www.ultraframe.com Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: 11 April 2012 20:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant didn't know about the 4mhz boost, but I did have a 256K RAM expander for running GEOS :) On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I bought the Schnedler Systems 4Mhz turbo accelerator for mine (http://vintagetech.netii.net/DRIVERS/TURBO-MASTER-CPU.jpg) and the Berkely Softworks 512K RAM expansion unit to run GEOS. Was big pimpin' for the 8bit days. -sc From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant I sold my C64 so I could use the cash towards buying my Amiga. I loved that Amiga. From: Guyer, Donald [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2012 4:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant LOL I sold my C64 years ago to a guy who had plans to make it into a HAM radio of some sort. Regards, Don Guyer Directory and Messaging Services Catholic Health East, ITSS From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant Even nostalgia has limits... On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Guyer, Donald dgu...@che.org wrote: Makes me want to start loading a game, using the cassette player Go eat dinner Then, go back and still have to wait for it to finish loading.. :-) Regards, Don Guyer Directory and Messaging Services Catholic Health East, ITSS From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 1:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant Makes me want to go play Bard's Tale I-III or Ultima II-V (never played Ultima). On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: Mine too. I have my Vic-20 and C=64 in the attic. Erik Goldoff wrote: :( Vic-20 and C=64 were my first two personal computers On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Commodore founder Jack Tramiel dead at 83 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9225995/Commodore_founder_Jack_Tr amiel_dead_at_83 Pet Vic20 C64 C128 Amiga Landmarks, each of them, and though he didn't have a hand in all of them, he pushed the personal computer industry forward in a big way. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog
RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant
Yup. They had Apple ][ versions as well. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Jeff Frantz jfra...@itstechnologies.com wrote: Yes, GEOS was pretty damned amazing. One can only imagine computing power today if software were so efficient. GEOS even made it to IBM-PC land. I ran PC/GEOS for years. GUI, multi- tasking, multi-threading, long file names, continuous session state preservation, object-oriented... on top of MS-DOS 3.3 on an 8088 with 640 KB of RAM. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
The injunction has already been filed. -sc From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 8:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Andrew prefers “Sir lord most royal highness of knowledge [1]” but none of us stoop that low. BTW, ASB has a trademark on “Indeed ™”. Any time you use “Indeed ™” ASB must be sent a check [2] for $0.02US. BTW #2, -sc has patented the use of -?c or the use of the “-” followed by any Unicode character followed by a “c”. That is patent infringement and you will probably be hearing from -sc’s lawyer tomorrow (as soon as he[3] sobers up). Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ 1. Indeed ™ 2. Indeed ™ 3. The lawyer that is. -sc is rarely sober. From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Subject: Re: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Tis a good behavior, and you'll have to trust I typically do better. Was just caught up in asking hypothetical vs. real world questions to enlighten myself. :) Andrew, or as it appears he prefers ASB, has lots of good information there, thanks again! -lc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
Sounds like a tarp to me. -sc From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Wow...no love for a fellow Tennessean? :) I do know where you live, and we still need to do lunch. - Will On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 19:19, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: You have it all wrong there Lora. It is just that WJR is a scab. LOL But I better be careful, WJR knows where I live. J Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Well it's a pleasure to meet you sir. The books you've co-authored as well as your partner's JoeWare, have saved my collective bacon a few times, so thank you. :) It's looking like I'm going to follow the latter scenario as the largest child also houses the Exchange 2003 environment. Sorry if I hit a scab between you and Mr. Robbins. :) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
Improved is subject to some debate. Or so I've heard. -sc From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal My initials. There's been some consternation of late regarding my switch of my nome de gare. Hence the NewAndImprovedWill(tm) - Will http://sale.images.woot.com/Air_Quothhs7Detail.png On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 20:21, Lora Cates lora.ca...@rocketmail.com wrote: Oh my, well I didn't mean to start the popcorn affair! WJR? -lc From: Webster webs...@carlwebster.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:19 PM Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal You have it all wrong there Lora. It is just that WJR is a scab. LOL But I better be careful, WJR knows where I live. J Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Well it's a pleasure to meet you sir. The books you've co-authored as well as your partner's JoeWare, have saved my collective bacon a few times, so thank you. :) It's looking like I'm going to follow the latter scenario as the largest child also houses the Exchange 2003 environment. Sorry if I hit a scab between you and Mr. Robbins. :) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
Or jumps to conclusions. -sc From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal She's a quick study. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 06:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Wow... First you don't read the articles I send, now you infer I'm a loser? Harsh. :) - Will On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 16:40, Lora Cates lora.ca...@rocketmail.com wrote: So I take it you lost? :) What, dare I ask, was your position on said matter in the arena? -lc From: William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal I'm not entering into the empty root arena again. :) I will answer the last query. He is that Brian Desmond...which is why I shan't enter that arena again. - Will On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 15:08, Lora Cates lora.ca...@rocketmail.com wrote: Well I've inherited what I'll kindly refer to as a mess. I'm still in the information gathering phase myself as I haven't quite been here 12 days yet, and only found this list recently. So I'll apologize in advance for my faux pas. Basically I was hired to consolidate a plethora of disparate AD domains/forests in several geographically dispersed hospital groups into a single forest. I still haven't met with the networking folks, so I don't know what shape the WAN is in. My predecessor went so far as to set up the CompanyX.com http://CompanyX.com parent domain and it's empty save the defaults, there is also a child domain of US.companyX.com with what appears to be the users from corporate. I've read several debates regarding an empty root. Is there a consensus on yea vs. nay? Speaking of reading, and apologies for any offense, are you this Brian Desmond? Active Directory: Designing, Deploying, and Running Active Directory, Fourth Edition -lc From: Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:16 PM Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Well the impact is that all uni group membership changes replicate to every GC. If you’ve got concerns around WAN utilization, availability, latency, etc., then this could be worth looking at. In quite a lot of scenarios, the WAN issues that existed circa Windows 2000 don’t exist anymore which makes this a less interesting discussion point. Without knowing about your customer’s environment and scale it’s hard to say. I would say that it’s highly unlikely that I would design a new multi-domain forest except for some pretty isolated and specific design requirements these days. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal I too am looking into this for a coming migration I've been asked to design for a customer. What's the impact to GC's by making everything Universal Groups? Especially in a multi domain, multi forest environment? -lc From: Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:02 PM Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal In a single domain forest (or even many multi-domain domain forests today), I would just do all uni groups. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Today I found a global group in my AD (created by an SE that wasn’t me), but for this function I needed to add a domain local group to it and for course, that’s not possible. Someplace I heard in AD pretty much every group you use should be domain local unless it’s used for Exchange in which case you use Universal. All
RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
Who is -sc? That question has been asked many a time. -sc From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Wow. Nice title. :) Who is -sc? What if I'm a lawyer, and can show evidence I've had this trademark longer than he filed for alleged patent? Or better yet, you assume I'm subject to your patent laws. :) -lc From: Webster webs...@carlwebster.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:29 PM Subject: RE: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Andrew prefers “Sir lord most royal highness of knowledge [1]” but none of us stoop that low. BTW, ASB has a trademark on “Indeed ™”. Any time you use “Indeed ™” ASB must be sent a check [2] for $0.02US. BTW #2, -sc has patented the use of -?c or the use of the “-” followed by any Unicode character followed by a “c”. That is patent infringement and you will probably be hearing from -sc’s lawyer tomorrow (as soon as he[3] sobers up). Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.carlwebster.com/ 1. Indeed ™ 2. Indeed ™ 3. The lawyer that is. -sc is rarely sober. From: Lora Cates [mailto:lora.ca...@rocketmail.com] Subject: Re: [dkim-failure] Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal Tis a good behavior, and you'll have to trust I typically do better. Was just caught up in asking hypothetical vs. real world questions to enlighten myself. :) Andrew, or as it appears he prefers ASB, has lots of good information there, thanks again! -lc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant
I bought the Schnedler Systems 4Mhz turbo accelerator for mine (http://vintagetech.netii.net/DRIVERS/TURBO-MASTER-CPU.jpg) and the Berkely Softworks 512K RAM expansion unit to run GEOS. Was big pimpin' for the 8bit days. -sc From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant I sold my C64 so I could use the cash towards buying my Amiga. I loved that Amiga. From: Guyer, Donald [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2012 4:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant LOL I sold my C64 years ago to a guy who had plans to make it into a HAM radio of some sort. Regards, Don Guyer Directory and Messaging Services Catholic Health East, ITSS From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant Even nostalgia has limits... On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Guyer, Donald dgu...@che.org wrote: Makes me want to start loading a game, using the cassette player Go eat dinner Then, go back and still have to wait for it to finish loading.. :-) Regards, Don Guyer Directory and Messaging Services Catholic Health East, ITSS From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 1:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: A moment of silence for the passing of another giant Makes me want to go play Bard's Tale I-III or Ultima II-V (never played Ultima). On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: Mine too. I have my Vic-20 and C=64 in the attic. Erik Goldoff wrote: :( Vic-20 and C=64 were my first two personal computers On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Commodore founder Jack Tramiel dead at 83 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9225995/Commodore_founder_Jack_Tr amiel_dead_at_83 Pet Vic20 C64 C128 Amiga Landmarks, each of them, and though he didn't have a hand in all of them, he pushed the personal computer industry forward in a big way. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended
RE: Need Your Feedback - New Product for Admins
Well, the last 18 months I have done research to find a tool that would solve most of the above problems, and I think I have found it: http://www.knowbe4.com/products/instant-revert. This appears to indicate you went out and looked at tools from all vendors in the market place, and are recommending this one. You can answer to the list or answer me offline at s...@knowbe4.com This appears to indicate you have an email address in the organization that sells the tool you are recommending. Are you affiliated with this company? -sc -Original Message- From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Need Your Feedback - New Product for Admins Guys, I'm back in the 'system admin' software game. I'm giving you a sneak peek of a new admin tool we are announcing this April called InstantRevert. I had a fresh look at your current environment. Users are still your #1 headache, and you continue to get It worked yesterday! incomplete help desk tickets. The next headaches are keeping your network secure without sufficient budget, and you're coming in early, staying late, and working weekends. Well, the last 18 months I have done research to find a tool that would solve most of the above problems, and I think I have found it: http://www.knowbe4.com/products/instant-revert/ Could you have a look and tell me what you think? The cost per server is $220 but I am still figuring out the volume discounts for workstations. Say you have 200 workstations you want to run this on, what would you expect to have to pay per workstation? You can answer to the list or answer me offline at s...@knowbe4.com Thanks so much in advance ! Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Need Your Feedback - New Product for Admins
I didn't talk to the right to post a message. I'm asking for clarification of what the affiliation with the product/org is. I appreciate your guess... but I'd like to know if this was selected after the comparison, developed after the comparison, bought as a result, etc... -sc -Original Message- From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 10:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need Your Feedback - New Product for Admins Strange you would need to ask this question! Stu started SunbeltSoftware as well as this (and other forums). He continues to monitor and moderate it. He left Sunbelt (now GFI) and started KnowBe4. My guess is, there was a research effort involved, and he/they purchased this product. Anyway, if anyone has the right to post a commercial message to this list, it would be Stu. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need Your Feedback - New Product for Admins Well, the last 18 months I have done research to find a tool that would solve most of the above problems, and I think I have found it: http://www.knowbe4.com/products/instant-revert. This appears to indicate you went out and looked at tools from all vendors in the market place, and are recommending this one. You can answer to the list or answer me offline at s...@knowbe4.com This appears to indicate you have an email address in the organization that sells the tool you are recommending. Are you affiliated with this company? -sc -Original Message- From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Need Your Feedback - New Product for Admins Guys, I'm back in the 'system admin' software game. I'm giving you a sneak peek of a new admin tool we are announcing this April called InstantRevert. I had a fresh look at your current environment. Users are still your #1 headache, and you continue to get It worked yesterday! incomplete help desk tickets. The next headaches are keeping your network secure without sufficient budget, and you're coming in early, staying late, and working weekends. Well, the last 18 months I have done research to find a tool that would solve most of the above problems, and I think I have found it: http://www.knowbe4.com/products/instant-revert/ Could you have a look and tell me what you think? The cost per server is $220 but I am still figuring out the volume discounts for workstations. Say you have 200 workstations you want to run this on, what would you expect to have to pay per workstation? You can answer to the list or answer me offline at s...@knowbe4.com Thanks so much in advance ! Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Need Your Feedback - New Product for Admins
Understood. Thanks. -sc -Original Message- From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need Your Feedback - New Product for Admins AH, let me explain. When I started KnowBe4, the main thing I decided to start focusing on was end-user training against social engineering, and that is still the flagship product we sell. Then I continued doing my research and ran into a product I believe in, and OEMed it. So InstantRevert is an existing tool that I slapped my KnowBe4 label on, and will sell and support it as our own. (It's a U.S. company that built that tool by the way.) Hope that clarifies, Stu -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 10:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need Your Feedback - New Product for Admins Well, the last 18 months I have done research to find a tool that would solve most of the above problems, and I think I have found it: http://www.knowbe4.com/products/instant-revert. This appears to indicate you went out and looked at tools from all vendors in the market place, and are recommending this one. You can answer to the list or answer me offline at s...@knowbe4.com This appears to indicate you have an email address in the organization that sells the tool you are recommending. Are you affiliated with this company? -sc -Original Message- From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Need Your Feedback - New Product for Admins Guys, I'm back in the 'system admin' software game. I'm giving you a sneak peek of a new admin tool we are announcing this April called InstantRevert. I had a fresh look at your current environment. Users are still your #1 headache, and you continue to get It worked yesterday! incomplete help desk tickets. The next headaches are keeping your network secure without sufficient budget, and you're coming in early, staying late, and working weekends. Well, the last 18 months I have done research to find a tool that would solve most of the above problems, and I think I have found it: http://www.knowbe4.com/products/instant-revert/ Could you have a look and tell me what you think? The cost per server is $220 but I am still figuring out the volume discounts for workstations. Say you have 200 workstations you want to run this on, what would you expect to have to pay per workstation? You can answer to the list or answer me offline at s...@knowbe4.com Thanks so much in advance ! Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: recommendations on home server
Well the Neo's _ARE_ beefier than an Atom from a horsepower perspective, as well as supporting VT extensions... I certainly agree on the SSD's however. I can tell a pretty dramatic difference with unit I have. -sc From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Yeah, it's an AMD dual-core Neo, but since no one seems to know what that is, I've given up trying to explain it :-) Atom seems to have more recognition. FWIW, my team has another one of these sitting in the office (again because it's quiet/cool). It's running SharePoint 2010 with about 6-7GB of documents, which we access using SharePoint Workspace and Outlook. For BAU, I don't think the CPU gets much above 5% I did a quick check on my server at home, and Perfmon.exe was using more CPU than anything else :-) I ran a few admin tools, copied some files, checked the spam filters etc. Exchange is receiving around 50,000 messages/day (99% spam :-)), yet the VM is using about 3% of the host's CPU. Given that we used to run these things on 500Mhz or lower specced servers, I think CPUs running at 1.3Ghz (or more) these days, should provide sufficient grunt for server Ops. IMHO disk is the biggest bottleneck. Put a couple of SSDs into your server and see what happens. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised :-) Cheers Ken From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2012 11:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Cool.. glad it's working for you. I've had an atom-based machine. And when compared to another box that had practically the same disk specs, I could definitely feel the difference just for simple workstation tasks. Perhaps it could be mitigated some with fast disk, additional RAM, etc... but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable recommending atom based devices as VM platforms. Both my VM hosts are ProLiant dual CPU P4 HT-enabled Xeon's running at 2.8Ghz. Not the latest, but no slouches either. I'd have to say that if I'm bouncing back and forth between a DC, my IIS box, and say Exchange, I can see some CPU hit. I just swapped one of these boxes in to replace an older Dual-CPU P-III box with the exact same amount of RAM, and identical disk. The only real difference is CPU horsepower, and I can tell a difference. But as YMMV has held true for you, it's another option for folks to consider. Especially if heat/noise are larger factors than raw performance. -sc PS- As other folks have pointed out, Atom's aren't actually supported... are you running them anyway, or when you say effectively has a dual-core Atom CPU does that actually mean something else? From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Doing admin work takes up very little CPU... How much CPU is required to create a new user or issue a new cert or print a document? Loading Exchange Management Console, or doing a WSUS server cleanup seems to be limited by disk I/O. Using SSDs speeds this up significantly. Even installing Exchange 2010 was less than 2 minutes. On my second Proliant I have SCVMM and SCOM - even those just run along without consuming much CPU. Disk I/O is usually the bottleneck. Cheers Ken ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: recommendations on home server
Sure... there can be all sorts of bottlenecks in systems. Including CPU. :) Fortunately perf mon tools are available at both the OS and hypervisor levels in order to tune. The OP has some good options to consider, depending on his need. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I've had an atom-based machine. And when compared to another box that had practically the same disk specs, I could definitely feel the difference just for simple workstation tasks. It still might not be the CPU. Maybe the practically the same disks weren't as close as you thought, or maybe there's some other bottleneck. I've got an Atom-based Asus Eee PC netbook. It came with an SSD-on-mini-PCI-Express-card that was slower than molasses on writes. Turns out the disk controller on the stock device was pathologically bad for concurrent writes. Upgrading the card -- and thus replacing the disk controller -- was like getting a new laptop. I didn't benchmark it, but browsing the web is ridiculously faster. What before might take 30-60 seconds now takes 2-3. That laptop went from being an amusing toy to being a very useful portable computer. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MDM - Tablet/BYOD
Both will be at MMS 2012 in the Expo so you can compare. Good to know.. I'll aim to check them out. Thanks. -sc From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MDM - Tablet/BYOD During an interview with Odyssey CEO a while back he explained that iOS was easy to develop for, Android is a lot harder. BTW: With Odyssey's acquisition a lot of folks are looking more toward AirWatch. Both will be at MMS 2012 in the Expo so you can compare. From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MDM - Tablet/BYOD I'm in the same boat right now, looking at different products. The one that I was most impressed by, was Athena, from Odyssey Software (which, unfortunately, was recently bought by Symantec). Athena is an add-in to SCCM, so all management is through SCCM. No additional infrastructure needed. Also, what I've been finding is that with all the MDM products I've looked at so far, there are many more policy/management options with the Apple devices as opposed to the Android devices. Joe Heaton ITB - Windows Server Support From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:36 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: MDM - Tablet/BYOD Are any of you using a third party MDM such as MaaS/MobileIron/AirWatch with either your company owned or BYOD tablets and phones? I'm about to look at tablets, most likely iPads, with an eye on possible BYOD for mobiles. These days if someone walks through the door with a personal device it's an Apple with the odd Android or Windows Mobile/Windows Phone device. I can't easily trial every MDM out there, and right now I don't even know exactly what policies we'd want to enforce, but I know that ActiveSync can be variable with device support and devices can basically lie/ignore settings in some situations. Thanks, Paul MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: recommendations on home server
(I've been running a server at home since 2001) I'll see your 2001, and raise you a 1994. I do agree that generally you don't' need huge amounts of CPU over the long-haul average (I mean who really cares if your home mail server for 3 people takes 5 seconds to deliver an email instead of 2?), but when you do decide to do some admin work on a box, etc... I'm not sure a dual-proc Atom is going to be fun You must be a patient man. :-) One of the things that I have found with home usage is that even though CPU needs may be relatively low, I/O and storage needs may still need to be relatively significant. Pushing media files around the house, or moving .vmdk/.vhd files around on lower-end NICs or storage controllers sucks. -sc From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Respectfully disagree. I used to have servers like this, but they are loud and generate a lot of heat. Living in Singapore with 30+ C temperatures (90F) means cooling is an issue. VM for home environments generally don't use a lot of CPU in my experience (I've been running a server at home since 2001). I've got a HP Proliant Microserver which effectively has a dual-core Atom CPU running 2 x DCs, Exchange 2010, Windows Home Server, Forefront TMG 2010, PKI/Print and WSUS all on a single box. And the CPU is rarely above 10%. I used to have a dual quad-core Xeon dell server, and the CPU on that was rarely above 1% - it just generated a lot of heat and noise for no reason. Cheers Ken From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2012 1:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server I have a 2950 at home (just as an example) and have never suffered any need to modify the electrical circuit. There are ways of isolating the noise but any fan is going to generate noise. Irritates women - I'll have to keep that handy in case I need to get rid of one! John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Those things are loud. I have discovered my wife gets irrate with one of those things on in the house. As I live in a part of California where temperatures get to 115 degrees F the garage isn't an option. Also some of those 'real' servers end up requiring a 20 or 30 amp circuit as well. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:42 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: OR you can just buy a used Dell Poweredge 2950 for $400-$600 with a raid controller, multiple drives and CPU's and gobs of memory and be done with it. I can assure you it's on the VMWare HCL and most likely Microsoft's and Citrix's as well. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-2950-2x-Intel-R-Xeon-R-CPU-5120-1 -86-Dual-Core-6-x-300GB-/160776821444?pt=COMP_EN_Servershash=item256f0b 9ac4 John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Wow, 8 cores for a home/lab server? That's a little extravagant, isn't it? 4 cores is fine for a handful of VMs, and quad AMD Phenom's can be had for $100 when on sale. Don't really need the graphics that's bundled into the FX CPUs, and AM3 motherboards are cheaper as well. Carl From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Strictly for home lab use: MB http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp No=1963472CatId=7248 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Ed pNo=1963472CatId=7248 $84 Memory http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp No=1874822CatId=4534 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Ed pNo=1874822CatId=4534 HD http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp No=7331904CatId=4357 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Ed pNo=7331904CatId=4357 $99 CPU http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp No=1239958CatId=7341 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Ed pNo=1239958CatId=7341 $189 Case
