RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

2011-10-29 Thread Stringham, Steven
The tape drive is connected scsi to the server. 

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

@Steven - but do you have your tape drive connected to your 3140 via fiber 
channel or SCSI, or is it connected to the server running Backup Exec?

-Original Message-
From: Stringham, Steven [mailto:sstri...@lrlaw.com]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 4:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

There is a NDMP option for backup exec.  I use it right now with my 3140 to 
back up my cifs volumes.


-Original Message-
From: Phil Garven [mailto:phil.gar...@gfi.com]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

With NDMP you're sending commands to the device telling it to back itself up 
which is why normally it's to a direct attached tape drive or library.

You can get it to redirect the backup but that's to another NDMP device so if 
you had 2 NetApp devices you could have the tape drive only attached to one of 
them and the one without the drive could send its data to the other for backup 
using NDMP.

It's a bit of a pain needing separate libraries / drives for different devices 
but at least with direct attached you'll get great throughput.

You could make the data on the NetApp available as a CIFS share and map a drive 
and back it up that way but it'll be much slower.

Regards,

Phil Garven - Technical Trainer
GFI Software - www.gfi.com

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

We have two backup solutions, Symantec Backup Exec and HP Data Protector.  We 
also have a NetApp FAS3240.  We want to be able to do NDMP backups from the 
NetApp to the tape drive that is attached to the backup server.  Most of the 
configurations that we've seen show the tape drive being connected to the 
NetApp either by fiber channel or SCSI, but going through NetApp docs it says 
that it supports storage system-to-data data-to-tape configuration.  Anyone 
out there using a NetApp and if so, are you backing it up to a tape drive 
attached to the controller or have you found a way to back it up to a tape 
drive attached to the backup server?

-Paul

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Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

2011-10-28 Thread Maglinger, Paul
We have two backup solutions, Symantec Backup Exec and HP Data Protector.  We 
also have a NetApp FAS3240.  We want to be able to do NDMP backups from the 
NetApp to the tape drive that is attached to the backup server.  Most of the 
configurations that we've seen show the tape drive being connected to the 
NetApp either by fiber channel or SCSI, but going through NetApp docs it says 
that it supports storage system-to-data data-to-tape configuration.  Anyone 
out there using a NetApp and if so, are you backing it up to a tape drive 
attached to the controller or have you found a way to back it up to a tape 
drive attached to the backup server?

-Paul

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RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

2011-10-28 Thread Phil Garven
With NDMP you're sending commands to the device telling it to back itself up 
which is why normally it's to a direct attached tape drive or library.

You can get it to redirect the backup but that's to another NDMP device so if 
you had 2 NetApp devices you could have the tape drive only attached to one of 
them and the one without the drive could send its data to the other for backup 
using NDMP.

It's a bit of a pain needing separate libraries / drives for different devices 
but at least with direct attached you'll get great throughput.

You could make the data on the NetApp available as a CIFS share and map a drive 
and back it up that way but it'll be much slower.

Regards,

Phil Garven - Technical Trainer
GFI Software - www.gfi.com

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

We have two backup solutions, Symantec Backup Exec and HP Data Protector.  We 
also have a NetApp FAS3240.  We want to be able to do NDMP backups from the 
NetApp to the tape drive that is attached to the backup server.  Most of the 
configurations that we've seen show the tape drive being connected to the 
NetApp either by fiber channel or SCSI, but going through NetApp docs it says 
that it supports storage system-to-data data-to-tape configuration.  Anyone 
out there using a NetApp and if so, are you backing it up to a tape drive 
attached to the controller or have you found a way to back it up to a tape 
drive attached to the backup server?

-Paul

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RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

2011-10-28 Thread Stringham, Steven
There is a NDMP option for backup exec.  I use it right now with my 3140 to 
back up my cifs volumes.


-Original Message-
From: Phil Garven [mailto:phil.gar...@gfi.com]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

With NDMP you're sending commands to the device telling it to back itself up 
which is why normally it's to a direct attached tape drive or library.

You can get it to redirect the backup but that's to another NDMP device so if 
you had 2 NetApp devices you could have the tape drive only attached to one of 
them and the one without the drive could send its data to the other for backup 
using NDMP.

It's a bit of a pain needing separate libraries / drives for different devices 
but at least with direct attached you'll get great throughput.

You could make the data on the NetApp available as a CIFS share and map a drive 
and back it up that way but it'll be much slower.

Regards,

Phil Garven - Technical Trainer
GFI Software - www.gfi.com

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

We have two backup solutions, Symantec Backup Exec and HP Data Protector.  We 
also have a NetApp FAS3240.  We want to be able to do NDMP backups from the 
NetApp to the tape drive that is attached to the backup server.  Most of the 
configurations that we've seen show the tape drive being connected to the 
NetApp either by fiber channel or SCSI, but going through NetApp docs it says 
that it supports storage system-to-data data-to-tape configuration.  Anyone 
out there using a NetApp and if so, are you backing it up to a tape drive 
attached to the controller or have you found a way to back it up to a tape 
drive attached to the backup server?

-Paul

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RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

2011-10-28 Thread Maglinger, Paul
@Steven - but do you have your tape drive connected to your 3140 via fiber 
channel or SCSI, or is it connected to the server running Backup Exec?

-Original Message-
From: Stringham, Steven [mailto:sstri...@lrlaw.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 4:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

There is a NDMP option for backup exec.  I use it right now with my 3140 to 
back up my cifs volumes.


-Original Message-
From: Phil Garven [mailto:phil.gar...@gfi.com]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

With NDMP you're sending commands to the device telling it to back itself up 
which is why normally it's to a direct attached tape drive or library.

You can get it to redirect the backup but that's to another NDMP device so if 
you had 2 NetApp devices you could have the tape drive only attached to one of 
them and the one without the drive could send its data to the other for backup 
using NDMP.

It's a bit of a pain needing separate libraries / drives for different devices 
but at least with direct attached you'll get great throughput.

You could make the data on the NetApp available as a CIFS share and map a drive 
and back it up that way but it'll be much slower.

Regards,

Phil Garven - Technical Trainer
GFI Software - www.gfi.com

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

We have two backup solutions, Symantec Backup Exec and HP Data Protector.  We 
also have a NetApp FAS3240.  We want to be able to do NDMP backups from the 
NetApp to the tape drive that is attached to the backup server.  Most of the 
configurations that we've seen show the tape drive being connected to the 
NetApp either by fiber channel or SCSI, but going through NetApp docs it says 
that it supports storage system-to-data data-to-tape configuration.  Anyone 
out there using a NetApp and if so, are you backing it up to a tape drive 
attached to the controller or have you found a way to back it up to a tape 
drive attached to the backup server?

-Paul

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RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

2011-10-28 Thread Donovan Oliver
We use EMC Networker running on Solaris to perform NDMP backups of NetApp 3070 
and 3170 to a tape library.  The library is managed by Networker.  The same 
Networker also backs up other systems.  Getting it all working was a chore, but 
we were able to utilize the tape drives for all systems and not just the NetApp.

- Donovan

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server

We have two backup solutions, Symantec Backup Exec and HP Data Protector.  We 
also have a NetApp FAS3240.  We want to be able to do NDMP backups from the 
NetApp to the tape drive that is attached to the backup server.  Most of the 
configurations that we've seen show the tape drive being connected to the 
NetApp either by fiber channel or SCSI, but going through NetApp docs it says 
that it supports storage system-to-data data-to-tape configuration.  Anyone 
out there using a NetApp and if so, are you backing it up to a tape drive 
attached to the controller or have you found a way to back it up to a tape 
drive attached to the backup server?

-Paul


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