Re: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Roger Wright
+100 Your level of support is far more important than the feature set.

I've worked with Canon, Sharp, Kyocera, Konica/Minota - they all need
service too often.  I've recommended setting up a cot or the service
techs next to the worst offenders.

One of our branches just switched to Xerox machines after dealing with
Canons for several years.  After a rocky start (drivers, etc.) they
love them now.


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On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jonathan Link  wrote:
> All copiers suck.
> The service that goes along with them is the key...
> We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3).  We also use them as our
> primary printers.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
>>
>> Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
>> them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
>> MFP/copiers and printers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Jonathan Link
Or they've been used for performances...

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Jacob  wrote:

> Our Kyocera's suck.. but of course I bought the cheapest ones you can think
> of...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Copiers
>
> Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
> them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
> MFP/copiers and printers.
>
>
>
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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Jacob
Our Kyocera's suck.. but of course I bought the cheapest ones you can think
of...

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copiers

Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
MFP/copiers and printers.






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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Sam Cayze
Or even get one of those cheap NAS drives that has SMB and FTP, etc.

Aren't they like $100?

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

 

We have a SAN and VM Hosts in a data center.  No need for that at a small
remote site, and scanning to a local server folder, while nice to be able to
do, doesn't justify that kind of overhead.  If we really need to scan
locally we scan to a desktop folder on a local machine.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

Any possibility of virtualization?  You can get a nice field-office server
with tons of local storage, and the ESXi 4 OS on a SDRAM card.  Boots to
that card, and you can create multiple guests.

Just a thought, but I do understand having limitations...

>>> Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> 4/19/2011 10:48 AM >>>

We have a few remote locations that have only one server

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> You're using a DC as file storage?  Any particular reason why?
>
> >>> John Aldrich  4/19/2011 10:09 AM >>>
> Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to
> make
> sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp.
>
>
>

> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM

> To: NT System Admin Issues

> Subject: Re: Copiers
>
> We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC.

> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on
the
> server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp
> actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server?
>
>
>

> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM

> To: NT System Admin Issues

> Subject: Re: Copiers
>
> The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB
> folders.
>  It took several tries for us to get it all figured out.  Jury's still out
> as far as which I like better now that we have it working.

> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or
> do
> we have to email the scans or what?
>
>
>

> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues

> Subject: Re: Copiers
> The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the
> Kyocera
> machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
> are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
> units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.

> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich

>  wrote:
> Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
> them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
> MFP/copiers and printers.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Jeff Brown
We have a SAN and VM Hosts in a data center.  No need for that at a small
remote site, and scanning to a local server folder, while nice to be able to
do, doesn't justify that kind of overhead.  If we really need to scan
locally we scan to a desktop folder on a local machine.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> Any possibility of virtualization?  You can get a nice field-office server
> with tons of local storage, and the ESXi 4 OS on a SDRAM card.  Boots to
> that card, and you can create multiple guests.
>
> Just a thought, but I do understand having limitations...
>
> >>> Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> 4/19/2011 10:48 AM >>>
> We have a few remote locations that have only one server
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Joseph Heaton 
> wrote:
>
> > You're using a DC as file storage?  Any particular reason why?
> >
> > >>> John Aldrich  4/19/2011 10:09 AM >>>
> > Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to
> > make
> > sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Copiers
> >
> > We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC.
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich
> >  wrote:
> > Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on
> the
> > server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp
> > actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Copiers
> >
> > The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB
> > folders.
> >  It took several tries for us to get it all figured out.  Jury's still
> out
> > as far as which I like better now that we have it working.
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich
> >  wrote:
> > Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or
> > do
> > we have to email the scans or what?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Copiers
> > The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the
> > Kyocera
> > machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
> > are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
> > units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich
> >  wrote:
> > Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep
> about
> > them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
> > MFP/copiers and printers.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread John Aldrich
Yeah... Kinda figured I'd probably do that. :D Not sure which of the two
MFPs we'd be replacing I'd want to use... They're not that far apart...only
a couple rooms away from each other, but far enough away that it'd be a PITA
to walk all the way out to the other one from the other room. :-)




-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

Get one on trial and put it in the location that you get the most trouble
with.

Half the battle with something like copiers is to get something that has an
interface that your users are comfortable with.

In my experience people understand that things break from time to time.
What they don't understand is why you'd put something in their environment
that's a PITA to use the 99% of the time that it's working.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: 19 April 2011 17:22
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

Well, I have to say I've been mostly happy with the service we've had on the
Kyocera copiers, but we have WAY more copiers/printers than we need and the
Sharp dealer is offering to buy out the leases and save us about $200 /
month on all our copiers/printers/MFPs. That almost sounds too good to be
true, but I'm willing to give 'em a shot. :D



From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

Ditto (no pun intended, ok maybe a little)


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers
All copiers suck.
The service that goes along with them is the key...
We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3).  We also use them as our
primary printers.


 
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
MFP/copiers and printers.






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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread John Aldrich
We have two server class machines. I listened to Dell instead of the local
VAR and got two massive machines instead of a couple "pizza box" servers for
DCs and a NAS. It would have been much smarter to go with the suggestion of
the VAR, which is kinda where I am planning on going now, three or 4 years
later. :-)

Long story short -- when I first came here, I was VERY green and didn't
trust the VAR (even though they had directly helped me get this job) and so
I listened to Dell when they suggested a couple massive servers with
on-board storage. Now I find myself in the position to go back to that very
same VAR and ask them for their recommendation for hardware to do pretty
much what they suggested several years ago. :D




-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

You're using a DC as file storage?  Any particular reason why?

>>> John Aldrich  4/19/2011 10:09 AM >>>
Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to make
sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp.



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the
server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp
actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server?



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders.
 It took several tries for us to get it all figured out.  Jury's still out
as far as which I like better now that we have it working.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do
we have to email the scans or what?



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers
The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the Kyocera
machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
MFP/copiers and printers.






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Re: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Joseph Heaton
Any possibility of virtualization?  You can get a nice field-office server with 
tons of local storage, and the ESXi 4 OS on a SDRAM card.  Boots to that card, 
and you can create multiple guests.

Just a thought, but I do understand having limitations...

>>> Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> 4/19/2011 10:48 AM >>>
We have a few remote locations that have only one server

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> You're using a DC as file storage?  Any particular reason why?
>
> >>> John Aldrich  4/19/2011 10:09 AM >>>
> Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to
> make
> sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp.
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copiers
>
> We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC.
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the
> server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp
> actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server?
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copiers
>
> The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB
> folders.
>  It took several tries for us to get it all figured out.  Jury's still out
> as far as which I like better now that we have it working.
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or
> do
> we have to email the scans or what?
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copiers
> The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the
> Kyocera
> machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
> are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
> units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
> them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
> MFP/copiers and printers.
>
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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Paul Hutchings
Get one on trial and put it in the location that you get the most trouble with.

Half the battle with something like copiers is to get something that has an 
interface that your users are comfortable with.

In my experience people understand that things break from time to time.  What 
they don't understand is why you'd put something in their environment that's a 
PITA to use the 99% of the time that it's working.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: 19 April 2011 17:22
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

Well, I have to say I've been mostly happy with the service we've had on the 
Kyocera copiers, but we have WAY more copiers/printers than we need and the 
Sharp dealer is offering to buy out the leases and save us about $200 / month 
on all our copiers/printers/MFPs. That almost sounds too good to be true, but 
I'm willing to give 'em a shot. :D



From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

Ditto (no pun intended, ok maybe a little)


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers
All copiers suck.
The service that goes along with them is the key...
We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3).  We also use them as our 
primary printers.


 
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Re: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Jeff Brown
We have a few remote locations that have only one server

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> You're using a DC as file storage?  Any particular reason why?
>
> >>> John Aldrich  4/19/2011 10:09 AM >>>
> Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to
> make
> sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp.
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copiers
>
> We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC.
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the
> server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp
> actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server?
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copiers
>
> The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB
> folders.
>  It took several tries for us to get it all figured out.  Jury's still out
> as far as which I like better now that we have it working.
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or
> do
> we have to email the scans or what?
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copiers
> The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the
> Kyocera
> machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
> are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
> units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
> them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
> MFP/copiers and printers.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Jonathan Link
Don't go there... :-)

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> You're using a DC as file storage?  Any particular reason why?
>
> >>> John Aldrich  4/19/2011 10:09 AM >>>
>  Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to
> make
> sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp.
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copiers
>
> We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC.
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the
> server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp
> actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server?
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copiers
>
> The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB
> folders.
>  It took several tries for us to get it all figured out.  Jury's still out
> as far as which I like better now that we have it working.
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or
> do
> we have to email the scans or what?
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copiers
> The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the
> Kyocera
> machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
> are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
> units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
> them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
> MFP/copiers and printers.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Joseph Heaton
You're using a DC as file storage?  Any particular reason why?

>>> John Aldrich  4/19/2011 10:09 AM >>>
Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to make
sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp.



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the
server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp
actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server?



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders.
 It took several tries for us to get it all figured out.  Jury's still out
as far as which I like better now that we have it working.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do
we have to email the scans or what?



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers
The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the Kyocera
machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
MFP/copiers and printers.






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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread John Aldrich
Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to make
sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp.



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the
server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp
actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server?



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders.
 It took several tries for us to get it all figured out.  Jury's still out
as far as which I like better now that we have it working.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do
we have to email the scans or what?



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers
The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the Kyocera
machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
MFP/copiers and printers.






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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread John Aldrich
Oooh.that might be a problem.. 

 

John-AldrichThread-Count

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

 

We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:

Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the
server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp
actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server?




From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]

Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders.
 It took several tries for us to get it all figured out.  Jury's still out
as far as which I like better now that we have it working.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do
we have to email the scans or what?



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers
The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the Kyocera
machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
MFP/copiers and printers.






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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread John Aldrich
We have a separate maintenance contract and the Sharp vendor is supposedly
factoring those in. I'll double-check when I get the proposal in writing
emailed to me this afternoon. But thanks for the reminder.



-Original Message-
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

Years ago, I remember a Kyocera contract that included toner resupply...
have you factored consumables into the cost savings ?


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-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

Well, I have to say I’ve been mostly happy with the service we’ve had on the
Kyocera copiers, but we have WAY more copiers/printers than we need and the
Sharp dealer is offering to buy out the leases and save us about $200 /
month on all our copiers/printers/MFPs. That almost sounds too good to be
true, but I'm willing to give 'em a shot. :D



From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

Ditto (no pun intended, ok maybe a little)


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers
All copiers suck.
The service that goes along with them is the key...
We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3).  We also use them as our
primary printers.


 
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 wrote:
Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
MFP/copiers and printers.






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Re: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Jeff Brown
We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich  wrote:

> Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the
> server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp
> actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server?
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copiers
>
> The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB
> folders.
>  It took several tries for us to get it all figured out.  Jury's still out
> as far as which I like better now that we have it working.
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or
> do
> we have to email the scans or what?
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copiers
> The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the
> Kyocera
> machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
> are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
> units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
> them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
> MFP/copiers and printers.
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Erik Goldoff
Years ago, I remember a Kyocera contract that included toner resupply...
have you factored consumables into the cost savings ?


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Systems, Networks, & Security 

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-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

Well, I have to say I’ve been mostly happy with the service we’ve had on the
Kyocera copiers, but we have WAY more copiers/printers than we need and the
Sharp dealer is offering to buy out the leases and save us about $200 /
month on all our copiers/printers/MFPs. That almost sounds too good to be
true, but I'm willing to give 'em a shot. :D



From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

Ditto (no pun intended, ok maybe a little)


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers
All copiers suck.
The service that goes along with them is the key...
We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3).  We also use them as our
primary printers.


 
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
MFP/copiers and printers.






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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread John Aldrich
Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the
server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp
actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server?



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders.
 It took several tries for us to get it all figured out.  Jury's still out
as far as which I like better now that we have it working.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do
we have to email the scans or what?



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers
The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the Kyocera
machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
MFP/copiers and printers.






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Re: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Jeff Brown
The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders.
 It took several tries for us to get it all figured out.  Jury's still out
as far as which I like better now that we have it working.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich  wrote:

> Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or
> do
> we have to email the scans or what?
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copiers
>
> The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the
> Kyocera
> machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
> are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
> units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
> them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
> MFP/copiers and printers.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread John Aldrich
Well, I have to say I’ve been mostly happy with the service we’ve had on the
Kyocera copiers, but we have WAY more copiers/printers than we need and the
Sharp dealer is offering to buy out the leases and save us about $200 /
month on all our copiers/printers/MFPs. That almost sounds too good to be
true, but I'm willing to give 'em a shot. :D



From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

Ditto (no pun intended, ok maybe a little)


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers
All copiers suck.
The service that goes along with them is the key...
We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3).  We also use them as our
primary printers.


 
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
MFP/copiers and printers.






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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread John Aldrich
Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do
we have to email the scans or what?



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the Kyocera
machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
MFP/copiers and printers.






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RE: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread N Parr
Ditto (no pun intended, ok maybe a little)



From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers


All copiers suck.
The service that goes along with them is the key...
We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3).  We also use them as
our primary printers.


 
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:


Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp
rep about
them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of
Sharp
    MFP/copiers and printers.






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Re: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread RichardMcClary
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All copiers suck.
The service that goes along with them is the key...
We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3).  We also use them as 
our primary printers.


 
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jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
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Re: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Jeff Brown
The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders "the same way" the Kyocera
machines do.  Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers.  they
are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience.  We have 10+
units at various locations.  4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich  wrote:

> Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
> them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp
> MFP/copiers and printers.
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Re: Copiers

2011-04-19 Thread Jonathan Link
All copiers suck.
The service that goes along with them is the key...
We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3).  We also use them as our
primary printers.



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Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about
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RE: Speaking of copiers...

2010-04-23 Thread Mike Gill
Having used Canon's, HP's, Konica/Minolta's and Kyocera's, I like our Xerox
7665 more than any of them. Awesome AD integration, good scanning features
and easy to use UI. But our contract on it is great too. A bad maintenance
contract will kill your experience with the best MFP.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Speaking of copiers...

 

What brand of copier/MFP do you guys like? We currently have two Kyocera
KM-5050 MFP/copiers that we are leasing, but we've had issues with scanning
locking the machines up. Fortunately, it seems to be resolved at this time,
but I'm thinking of changing copier folks when the lease runs out. One that
has caught my eye is Sharp. The "local" Sharp dealer told me that their
machines can scan AND copy at the same time, which would be a nice feature.
Not something we'd use a lot, but there are times when it would save an
extra minute or two. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

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RE: Speaking of copiers...

2010-04-23 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Mostly Ricoh's with a couple of Xerox for color printing.

 

Paul

 

From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 2:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Speaking of copiers...

 

We are using Ricoh's. Great support, and they work quite well.

 

Mark

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Speaking of copiers...

 

+1  I'm hardware neutral on copiers\MFDs...it will ALWAYS come down to
local support for me.

 

Shook

 

From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Speaking of copiers...

 

CANON, tried them all and always come back Canon's.  Really it depends
as much on the quality of your Vendor and their support as the quality
of the machine.

 



From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Speaking of copiers...

What brand of copier/MFP do you guys like? We currently have two Kyocera
KM-5050 MFP/copiers that we are leasing, but we've had issues with
scanning locking the machines up. Fortunately, it seems to be resolved
at this time, but I'm thinking of changing copier folks when the lease
runs out. One that has caught my eye is Sharp. The "local" Sharp dealer
told me that their machines can scan AND copy at the same time, which
would be a nice feature. Not something we'd use a lot, but there are
times when it would save an extra minute or two. J

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Speaking of copiers...

2010-04-23 Thread Reimer, Mark
We are using Ricoh's. Great support, and they work quite well.

 

Mark

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Speaking of copiers...

 

+1  I'm hardware neutral on copiers\MFDs...it will ALWAYS come down to
local support for me.

 

Shook

 

From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Speaking of copiers...

 

CANON, tried them all and always come back Canon's.  Really it depends
as much on the quality of your Vendor and their support as the quality
of the machine.

 



From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Speaking of copiers...

What brand of copier/MFP do you guys like? We currently have two Kyocera
KM-5050 MFP/copiers that we are leasing, but we've had issues with
scanning locking the machines up. Fortunately, it seems to be resolved
at this time, but I'm thinking of changing copier folks when the lease
runs out. One that has caught my eye is Sharp. The "local" Sharp dealer
told me that their machines can scan AND copy at the same time, which
would be a nice feature. Not something we'd use a lot, but there are
times when it would save an extra minute or two. J

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Speaking of copiers...

2010-04-23 Thread Andy Shook
+1  I'm hardware neutral on copiers\MFDs...it will ALWAYS come down to local 
support for me.

Shook

From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Speaking of copiers...

CANON, tried them all and always come back Canon's.  Really it depends as much 
on the quality of your Vendor and their support as the quality of the machine.


From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Speaking of copiers...
What brand of copier/MFP do you guys like? We currently have two Kyocera 
KM-5050 MFP/copiers that we are leasing, but we've had issues with scanning 
locking the machines up. Fortunately, it seems to be resolved at this time, but 
I'm thinking of changing copier folks when the lease runs out. One that has 
caught my eye is Sharp. The "local" Sharp dealer told me that their machines 
can scan AND copy at the same time, which would be a nice feature. Not 
something we'd use a lot, but there are times when it would save an extra 
minute or two. :)

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Re: Speaking of copiers...

2010-04-23 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:46 PM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
> What brand of copier/MFP do you guys like?

  I don't have one I really like at this point.

  We have a couple of mid-sized Konica machines, purchased c. 2002.
Mechanically, they seem to be quality machines.  The user interface is
pretty bad, but that seems to be typical of copiers, I'm afraid.
Servicing them is a pain -- hundreds of screws.  Konica does not
believe in "tooless design", apparently.  Not my problem, since
they're under service contract.  The manuals stink -- broken English,
lack of detail on some things, unexplained technical jargon in other
places.  All in all, I'm not overly impressed, but I've also used much
worse.  Our local vendor is pretty good, and right next door, so
response time is great.  Having a good vendor is worth a *lot*.

  I played around with the current generation Xerox model briefly, a
few months ago.  I was impressed by the quality of design, ease of
service, and very nice UI.  For example, if there's a malfunction, it
actually explains what "Code 42-269" or whatever means in English.
Management decided they didn't want to buy a new copier yet, though,
so I haven't had real experience with them.

  Currently testing a Lexmark X464 unit, which is the "printer on
steroids" variety, not the "copier than prints and scans" variety.  It
should be suitable for a small workgroup.  So far seems pretty good.
Has a ton of features.  And it seems like most of them even work.

-- Ben

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RE: Speaking of copiers...

2010-04-23 Thread tony patton
+1 for the canons, have a few here and no real issues with them other than 
the fact they are old, and rollers wear out.

We also have a lot of Oce's here now, im351x B&W, CS231 Colour, 3165's and 
some of the new VarioPrint 2050s.
The 2050's are massive and have a PC hanging off the back of them, more 
problematic than the rest put together, but they are taking a lot of 
abuse.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
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To:
"NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:
23/04/2010 18:49
Subject:
RE: Speaking of copiers...



CANON, tried them all and always come back Canon's.  Really it depends as 
much on the quality of your Vendor and their support as the quality of the 
machine.

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Speaking of copiers...

What brand of copier/MFP do you guys like? We currently have two Kyocera 
KM-5050 MFP/copiers that we are leasing, but we?ve had issues with 
scanning locking the machines up. Fortunately, it seems to be resolved at 
this time, but I?m thinking of changing copier folks when the lease runs 
out. One that has caught my eye is Sharp. The ?local? Sharp dealer told me 
that their machines can scan AND copy at the same time, which would be a 
nice feature. Not something we?d use a lot, but there are times when it 
would save an extra minute or two. J
 

 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Speaking of copiers...

2010-04-23 Thread Ziots, Edward
Just food for thought, when working with your copier/printer vendors.
For those in the PHI/PII Healthcare arena its especially important. 

 

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Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Speaking of copiers...

 

CANON, tried them all and always come back Canon's.  Really it depends
as much on the quality of your Vendor and their support as the quality
of the machine.

 



From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Speaking of copiers...

What brand of copier/MFP do you guys like? We currently have two Kyocera
KM-5050 MFP/copiers that we are leasing, but we've had issues with
scanning locking the machines up. Fortunately, it seems to be resolved
at this time, but I'm thinking of changing copier folks when the lease
runs out. One that has caught my eye is Sharp. The "local" Sharp dealer
told me that their machines can scan AND copy at the same time, which
would be a nice feature. Not something we'd use a lot, but there are
times when it would save an extra minute or two. J

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Speaking of copiers...

2010-04-23 Thread N Parr
CANON, tried them all and always come back Canon's.  Really it depends
as much on the quality of your Vendor and their support as the quality
of the machine.



From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Speaking of copiers...



What brand of copier/MFP do you guys like? We currently have two Kyocera
KM-5050 MFP/copiers that we are leasing, but we've had issues with
scanning locking the machines up. Fortunately, it seems to be resolved
at this time, but I'm thinking of changing copier folks when the lease
runs out. One that has caught my eye is Sharp. The "local" Sharp dealer
told me that their machines can scan AND copy at the same time, which
would be a nice feature. Not something we'd use a lot, but there are
times when it would save an extra minute or two. J

 

  

 

 

 


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Speaking of copiers...

2010-04-23 Thread John Aldrich
What brand of copier/MFP do you guys like? We currently have two Kyocera
KM-5050 MFP/copiers that we are leasing, but we've had issues with scanning
locking the machines up. Fortunately, it seems to be resolved at this time,
but I'm thinking of changing copier folks when the lease runs out. One that
has caught my eye is Sharp. The "local" Sharp dealer told me that their
machines can scan AND copy at the same time, which would be a nice feature.
Not something we'd use a lot, but there are times when it would save an
extra minute or two. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 


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Re: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread James Kerr
CopiersI cant believe they still do that. Its been years since I've been around 
one of their machines and it was setup like that. It was retarded back then and 
even more so now.
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Mazzaccaro 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:53 PM
  Subject: RE: Copiers


  yeah, they told me only the "big boy" has 2...
  reason:  if one doesn't work, you still have the other... yeah... right.




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  From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:49 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Copiers


  That's interesting. We have a TaskAlfa, but ours is a 250 Ci, and it's got 
the same IP for both.

   



   

  From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:19 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Copiers

   

  They are separate on the 820 (just confirmed w/ dealer)

   

   

   


--

  From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:30 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Copiers

  That was true on the 4050 and earlier. On the 5050's they have the same IP 
now, so that is no longer a concern. J

   



   

  From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:13 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Copiers

   

  This is going to depend on your maintenance support contract and 
responsiveness as much as the unit itself. But as for units, Xerox hands down. 
I find the drivers and web UI for Kyocera MFP's to defy common sense on many 
levels. I think the web UI was written by a first year English student. On the 
Kyo that I worked with, the scanner and the printer had separate IP's, and were 
managed differently. Partly from the Web UI partly from the panel even though 
all the options appeared configurable from the Web UI.

   

  -- 
  Mike Gill

   

  From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:32 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Copiers

   

  We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
  Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 

  Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
  Kyocera KM-5050 

  Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
  Canon   ImageRunner 5055 

  Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
  Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 

   

  Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per page 
are right on. 
  I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them. 

  Thanks. 

   

  

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Re: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread Andrew S. Baker
I purchased a Sharp AR-M257 earlier this year for our church, and we've been
pretty happy with it.I've only had one misfeed error, and it was
genuine.

We don't do much scanning, although we purchased the module for it.

We only do about 1500 copies a week, though.

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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:53 PM, David Mazzaccaro <
david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com> wrote:

>  yeah, they told me only the "big boy" has 2...
> reason:  if one doesn't work, you still have the other... yeah... right.
>
>
>  --
> *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:49 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Copiers
>
>  That’s interesting… We have a TaskAlfa, but ours is a 250 Ci, and it’s
> got the same IP for both.
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
> *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:19 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Copiers
>
>
>
> They are separate on the 820 (just confirmed w/ dealer)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:30 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Copiers
>
> That was true on the 4050 and earlier. On the 5050’s they have the same IP
> now, so that is no longer a concern. J
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:13 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Copiers
>
>
>
> This is going to depend on your maintenance support contract and
> responsiveness as much as the unit itself. But as for units, Xerox hands
> down. I find the drivers and web UI for Kyocera MFP’s to defy common sense
> on many levels. I think the web UI was written by a first year English
> student. On the Kyo that I worked with, the scanner and the printer had
> separate IP’s, and were managed differently. Partly from the Web UI partly
> from the panel even though all the options appeared configurable from the
> Web UI.
>
>
>
> --
> Mike Gill
>
>
>
> *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:32 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Copiers
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> We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers.
> Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these?
>
> Kyocera TASKalfa 820
> Kyocera KM-5050
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> Canon   ImageRunner 5075
> Canon   ImageRunner 5055
>
> Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT
> Xerox   Workcentre 5655P
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>
>
> Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per page
> are right on.
> I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them…
>
> Thanks.
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RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
yeah, they told me only the "big boy" has 2...
reason:  if one doesn't work, you still have the other... yeah... right.
 



From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers



That's interesting... We have a TaskAlfa, but ours is a 250 Ci, and it's
got the same IP for both.

 

  

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

 

They are separate on the 820 (just confirmed w/ dealer)

 

 

 



From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

That was true on the 4050 and earlier. On the 5050's they have the same
IP now, so that is no longer a concern. J

 



 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

 

This is going to depend on your maintenance support contract and
responsiveness as much as the unit itself. But as for units, Xerox hands
down. I find the drivers and web UI for Kyocera MFP's to defy common
sense on many levels. I think the web UI was written by a first year
English student. On the Kyo that I worked with, the scanner and the
printer had separate IP's, and were managed differently. Partly from the
Web UI partly from the panel even though all the options appeared
configurable from the Web UI.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copiers

 

We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 

Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
Kyocera KM-5050 

Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
Canon   ImageRunner 5055 

Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 

 

Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per
page are right on. 
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with
them... 

Thanks. 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread John Aldrich
That's interesting. We have a TaskAlfa, but ours is a 250 Ci, and it's got
the same IP for both.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

 

They are separate on the 820 (just confirmed w/ dealer)

 

 

 

  _  

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

That was true on the 4050 and earlier. On the 5050's they have the same IP
now, so that is no longer a concern. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

 

This is going to depend on your maintenance support contract and
responsiveness as much as the unit itself. But as for units, Xerox hands
down. I find the drivers and web UI for Kyocera MFP's to defy common sense
on many levels. I think the web UI was written by a first year English
student. On the Kyo that I worked with, the scanner and the printer had
separate IP's, and were managed differently. Partly from the Web UI partly
from the panel even though all the options appeared configurable from the
Web UI.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copiers

 

We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 

Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
Kyocera KM-5050 

Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
Canon   ImageRunner 5055 

Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 

 

Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per page
are right on. 
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them. 

Thanks. 

 

 

 

 

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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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06:11:00

 

 

 

 

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RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
They are separate on the 820 (just confirmed w/ dealer)
 
 



From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers



That was true on the 4050 and earlier. On the 5050's they have the same
IP now, so that is no longer a concern. J

 

  

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

 

This is going to depend on your maintenance support contract and
responsiveness as much as the unit itself. But as for units, Xerox hands
down. I find the drivers and web UI for Kyocera MFP's to defy common
sense on many levels. I think the web UI was written by a first year
English student. On the Kyo that I worked with, the scanner and the
printer had separate IP's, and were managed differently. Partly from the
Web UI partly from the panel even though all the options appeared
configurable from the Web UI.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copiers

 

We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 

Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
Kyocera KM-5050 

Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
Canon   ImageRunner 5055 

Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 

 

Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per
page are right on. 
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with
them... 

Thanks. 

 

 

 

 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.54/2300 - Release Date:
08/13/09 06:11:00

 

 


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RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread Mike Gill
Our Xerox has an OCR feature built in as an option for PDF. I haven't used
it though.

-- 
Mike Gill

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, John
Aldrich wrote:
> Well, our Kyocera copiers do PDF as well. I've searched them. I'm not sure
> what makes a PDF searchable or not, so I can't say for sure.

  Something has to run OCR against the scanned image and add the
computer text equivalent.  Otherwise the PDF is just a big image to
the computer.  You can search it, but it won't find anything.  :-)

-- Ben


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


Re: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread Peter van Houten

It's normally a JPG scan inside a small PDF wrapper.

--
Peter van Houten

On the 13/08/2009 19:29, John Aldrich wrote the following:

Hmm... interesting. I could have sworn I'd scanned stuff into PDF documents
before and then searched 'em, but I guess not... I just tried something on
our "scans" folder on the server and it was exactly what you said would
happen.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, John
Aldrich  wrote:

Well, our Kyocera copiers do PDF as well. I've searched them. I'm not sure
what makes a PDF searchable or not, so I can't say for sure.


   Something has to run OCR against the scanned image and add the
computer text equivalent.  Otherwise the PDF is just a big image to
the computer.  You can search it, but it won't find anything.  :-)

-- Ben


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread John Aldrich
That was true on the 4050 and earlier. On the 5050's they have the same IP
now, so that is no longer a concern. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

 

This is going to depend on your maintenance support contract and
responsiveness as much as the unit itself. But as for units, Xerox hands
down. I find the drivers and web UI for Kyocera MFP's to defy common sense
on many levels. I think the web UI was written by a first year English
student. On the Kyo that I worked with, the scanner and the printer had
separate IP's, and were managed differently. Partly from the Web UI partly
from the panel even though all the options appeared configurable from the
Web UI.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copiers

 

We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 

Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
Kyocera KM-5050 

Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
Canon   ImageRunner 5055 

Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 

 

Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per page
are right on. 
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them. 

Thanks. 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread John Aldrich
Hmm... interesting. I could have sworn I'd scanned stuff into PDF documents
before and then searched 'em, but I guess not... I just tried something on
our "scans" folder on the server and it was exactly what you said would
happen. 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, John
Aldrich wrote:
> Well, our Kyocera copiers do PDF as well. I've searched them. I'm not sure
> what makes a PDF searchable or not, so I can't say for sure.

  Something has to run OCR against the scanned image and add the
computer text equivalent.  Otherwise the PDF is just a big image to
the computer.  You can search it, but it won't find anything.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.54/2300 - Release Date: 08/13/09
06:11:00

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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread Mike Gill
This is going to depend on your maintenance support contract and
responsiveness as much as the unit itself. But as for units, Xerox hands
down. I find the drivers and web UI for Kyocera MFP's to defy common sense
on many levels. I think the web UI was written by a first year English
student. On the Kyo that I worked with, the scanner and the printer had
separate IP's, and were managed differently. Partly from the Web UI partly
from the panel even though all the options appeared configurable from the
Web UI.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copiers

 

We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 

Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
Kyocera KM-5050 

Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
Canon   ImageRunner 5055 

Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 

 

Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per page
are right on. 
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them. 

Thanks. 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, John
Aldrich wrote:
> Well, our Kyocera copiers do PDF as well. I’ve searched them. I’m not sure
> what makes a PDF searchable or not, so I can’t say for sure.

  Something has to run OCR against the scanned image and add the
computer text equivalent.  Otherwise the PDF is just a big image to
the computer.  You can search it, but it won't find anything.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~



RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread John Aldrich
Well, our Kyocera copiers do PDF as well. I've searched them. I'm not sure
what makes a PDF searchable or not, so I can't say for sure. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

 

With copiers the main thing is who is supporting them, its all about the
vendor. 

 

Some of the Canons can do searchable pdf, the ones with the "i" after the
model number. I have all new Canons coming here in a couple of weeks
replacing our current Canons which are just over 5 years old (we extended
our service past the lease).

- Original Message - 

From: David Mazzaccaro <mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com>  

To: NT System Admin Issues <mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>  

Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:39 AM

Subject: RE: Copiers

 

Thanks

The Xerox place is directly across the street.

The Kyocera is our current provider (who isn't pushing Sharp anymore - thank
goodness!)

We do a lot of scanning, and the Xerox machines can scan directly to a
searchable PDF file. 

They also claim they have some license agreement with Adobe to make a true
PDF, and hence a much smaller file size. 

No one else scan to searchable PDF without 3rd party software.

So I'm leaning towards Xerox, but anything will be better than our Sharps!

 

 

 

  _  

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers


If they seem to spec the same, I'd shop for which vendor provides the best
service for your area.
-- 
Richard D. McClary 
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCAR 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  
P: 217-337-9761 
C: 217-417-1182 
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"David Mazzaccaro"  wrote on 08/13/2009
09:32:16 AM:

> We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
> Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 
> Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
> Kyocera KM-5050 
> Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
> Canon   ImageRunner 5055 
> Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
> Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 
> 
> Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost 
> per page are right on. 
> I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them. 
> Thanks. 
>   
>   

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread James Kerr
With copiers the main thing is who is supporting them, its all about the 
vendor. 

Some of the Canons can do searchable pdf, the ones with the "i" after the model 
number. I have all new Canons coming here in a couple of weeks replacing our 
current Canons which are just over 5 years old (we extended our service past 
the lease).
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Mazzaccaro 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:39 AM
  Subject: RE: Copiers


  Thanks
  The Xerox place is directly across the street.
  The Kyocera is our current provider (who isn't pushing Sharp anymore - thank 
goodness!)
  We do a lot of scanning, and the Xerox machines can scan directly to a 
searchable PDF file. 
  They also claim they have some license agreement with Adobe to make a true 
PDF, and hence a much smaller file size. 
  No one else scan to searchable PDF without 3rd party software.
  So I'm leaning towards Xerox, but anything will be better than our Sharps!





--
  From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:33 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Copiers



  If they seem to spec the same, I'd shop for which vendor provides the best 
service for your area.
  -- 
  Richard D. McClary 
  Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 

  ASPCA® 
  1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
  Urbana, IL  61802 

  richardmccl...@aspca.org 

  P: 217-337-9761 
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  "David Mazzaccaro"  wrote on 08/13/2009 
09:32:16 AM:

  > We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
  > Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 
  > Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
  > Kyocera KM-5050 
  > Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
  > Canon   ImageRunner 5055 
  > Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
  > Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 
  > 
  > Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost 
  > per page are right on. 
  > I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them. 
  > Thanks. 
  >   
  >   




 



 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
+1. We love our iR's.

From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

I love our Canon IR's.  Tried many different Brands over the years and always 
come back to Canon.  Of course we have a good vendor also which makes all the 
difference.


From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copiers

We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers.
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these?

Kyocera TASKalfa 820
Kyocera KM-5050

Canon   ImageRunner 5075
Canon   ImageRunner 5055

Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P


Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per page are 
right on.
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them...

Thanks.









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread John Aldrich
I have never used the 1016, only the 4000 and 5000 series, as well as the
CPC-22C-M and the recently leased TaskAlfa. I personally liked the 4050s we
had before we upgraded to the 5050s, but the 5050s also have some new
features that are nice, such as scanning in color. J

 

What we do here for scanning is we have a limited ActiveDirectory user which
we use to log into a shared folder on the file server. We only have about 3
or 4 shares (a couple "public" shares and then a couple restricted "admin"
scanning folders) so it's not a big deal for us.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copiers

 

Well.. we have a Kyocera 1016. Slower than

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copiers

 

We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 

Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
Kyocera KM-5050 

Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
Canon   ImageRunner 5055 

Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 

 

Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per page
are right on. 
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them. 

Thanks. 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread Jacob
Well.. we have a Kyocera 1016. Slower than

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copiers

 

We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 

Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
Kyocera KM-5050 

Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
Canon   ImageRunner 5055 

Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 

 

Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per page
are right on. 
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them. 

Thanks. 

 

 

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RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread N Parr
I love our Canon IR's.  Tried many different Brands over the years and
always come back to Canon.  Of course we have a good vendor also which
makes all the difference.



From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copiers



We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 

Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
Kyocera KM-5050 

Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
Canon   ImageRunner 5055 

Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 


Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per
page are right on. 
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with
them... 

Thanks. 

 

 


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RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
JAMS JAMS JAMS.
Scanning software (Sharpdesk) is horrible.
Drawers "hum" to their own tune
And our favorite message "A misfeed has occurred"
 




From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers


What are the issues with Sharp copiers?

-ASB




On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:39 AM, David Mazzaccaro
 wrote:


Thanks
The Xerox place is directly across the street.
The Kyocera is our current provider (who isn't pushing Sharp
anymore - thank goodness!)
We do a lot of scanning, and the Xerox machines can scan
directly to a searchable PDF file. 
They also claim they have some license agreement with Adobe to
make a true PDF, and hence a much smaller file size. 

No one else scan to searchable PDF without 3rd party software.
So I'm leaning towards Xerox, but anything will be better than
our Sharps!
 
 



From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]

Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers



If they seem to spec the same, I'd shop for which vendor
provides the best service for your area.
-- 
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Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCA(r) 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  
P: 217-337-9761 
C: 217-417-1182 
F: 217-337-9761 
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"David Mazzaccaro"  wrote on
08/13/2009 09:32:16 AM: 


> We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
> Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 

> Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
> Kyocera KM-5050 
> Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
> Canon   ImageRunner 5055 
> Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
> Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 
> 
> Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and
cost 
> per page are right on. 
> I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going
with them... 
> Thanks. 
>   
>   

 



 



 



 


 

 


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RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread Webb, Brian (Corp)
We have the Canons and they work pretty well.  If you are talking about
1 or 2 of them then the management of the printer/scanner functions is
ok, but we have over 100 of them and managing them is a royal pain.
There isn't any way to script the configuration or make changes to more
than one at a time.  Each time we change the password on the account
used to scan to a network share, we have to open a web page on each
copier and change the password for each scan location individually.
When you have 2-10 scan locations configured on each copier you have a
many hour task to change the password.  The other problems we have are
things like the copier techs resetting the configuration (we always do
that!) or locking us out by changing the password.  There are a couple
of things you have to be at the copier to configure - the web interface
is also not very intuitive.
 
-Brian

 



From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copiers



We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 

Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
Kyocera KM-5050 

Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
Canon   ImageRunner 5055 

Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 


Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per
page are right on. 
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with
them... 

Thanks. 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread Maglinger, Paul
We have a couple of Xerox color copiers/printers and they've been okay.
Most of the trouble was being unfamiliar with how to set them up
(they're a little different from the Ricohs they replaced).  The service
reps here were really good about helping us get it set up.  We were able
to negotiate and get the consumables down to a reasonable level compared
to others.
 
We had Canons before the Ricohs (still have a couple hanging around).
We went with Ricoh because we wanted faster, but we have the service guy
out about every other week because we run 'em to death (it was about the
same for the Canons, too).
 
We use Kyocera desktop printers and like them.  Not familiar with their
multi-purpose boxes.
 
Regardless of the solution, keep an eye on the consumables.  That's
where they'll get you.
 
 
 


From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copiers



We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 

Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
Kyocera KM-5050 

Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
Canon   ImageRunner 5055 

Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 


Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per
page are right on. 
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with
them... 

Thanks. 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread Andrew S. Baker
What are the issues with Sharp copiers?

-ASB



On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:39 AM, David Mazzaccaro <
david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com> wrote:

>  Thanks
> The Xerox place is directly across the street.
> The Kyocera is our current provider (who isn't pushing Sharp anymore -
> thank goodness!)
> We do a lot of scanning, and the Xerox machines can scan directly to a
> searchable PDF file.
> They also claim they have some license agreement with Adobe to make a true
> PDF, and hence a much smaller file size.
>  No one else scan to searchable PDF without 3rd party software.
> So I'm leaning towards Xerox, but anything will be better than our Sharps!
>
>
>
>  --
> *From:* richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Copiers
>
>
> If they seem to spec the same, I'd shop for which vendor provides the best
> service for your area.
> --
> Richard D. McClary
> Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
>
> *ASPCA®*
> 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> Urbana, IL  61802
>
> richardmccl...@aspca.org
>
> P: 217-337-9761
> C: 217-417-1182
> F: 217-337-9761
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>
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> "David Mazzaccaro"  wrote on 08/13/2009
> 09:32:16 AM:
>
> > We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers.
> > Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these?
>
> > Kyocera TASKalfa 820
> > Kyocera KM-5050
> > Canon   ImageRunner 5075
> > Canon   ImageRunner 5055
> > Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT
> > Xerox   Workcentre 5655P
> >
> > Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost
> > per page are right on.
> > I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them…
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread John Aldrich
Very good point. We have a very responsive vendor on the Kyocera printers
who does a good job of sending a tech out on the rare occasions we need one.
Usually they are out here the next day, sooner if we have a major problem.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers

 


If they seem to spec the same, I'd shop for which vendor provides the best
service for your area.
-- 
Richard D. McClary 
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCAR 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  
P: 217-337-9761 
C: 217-417-1182 
F: 217-337-9761 
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"David Mazzaccaro"  wrote on 08/13/2009
09:32:16 AM:

> We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
> Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 
> Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
> Kyocera KM-5050 
> Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
> Canon   ImageRunner 5055 
> Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
> Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 
> 
> Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost 
> per page are right on. 
> I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them. 
> Thanks. 
>   
>   

 

 

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RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread John Aldrich
We have both of the Kyocera printers and they work well for us. The only
complaint I have about the Kyoceras is that the touch screen is a bit slow
to respond sometimes when switching from copying to scanning and such. Other
than that, it's all good for us.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copiers

 

We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 

Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
Kyocera KM-5050 

Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
Canon   ImageRunner 5055 

Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 

 

Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per page
are right on. 
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them. 

Thanks. 

 

 

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RE: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Thanks
The Xerox place is directly across the street.
The Kyocera is our current provider (who isn't pushing Sharp anymore -
thank goodness!)
We do a lot of scanning, and the Xerox machines can scan directly to a
searchable PDF file. 
They also claim they have some license agreement with Adobe to make a
true PDF, and hence a much smaller file size. 
No one else scan to searchable PDF without 3rd party software.
So I'm leaning towards Xerox, but anything will be better than our
Sharps!
 
 



From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copiers



If they seem to spec the same, I'd shop for which vendor provides the
best service for your area.
-- 
Richard D. McClary 
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCA(r) 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  
P: 217-337-9761 
C: 217-417-1182 
F: 217-337-9761 
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"David Mazzaccaro"  wrote on 08/13/2009
09:32:16 AM:

> We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
> Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 
> Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
> Kyocera KM-5050 
> Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
> Canon   ImageRunner 5055 
> Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
> Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 
> 
> Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost 
> per page are right on. 
> I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with
them... 
> Thanks. 
>   
>   

 

 


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Re: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread Tom Miller
We've used the Canon iR series, not those models.  I don't recall any
issues and the little screen on the copiers was easy to use.
 
We now use Xerox WorkCentre copiers of various flavors.  I think we
have a few 5655.  No issues.  The on-copier screens are not as easy/nice
looking at the Canons, but functionality is the same.  We do have one
program that faxes long faxes regularly (200+ pages) and those for some
reason get cut off.  Our vendor is looking into it.  That was not an
issue on the Canon units.
 
No experience on Kyocera copiers, but we use the printers here and they
just work, no problems.
 
Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 

>>> "David Mazzaccaro"  8/13/2009 10:32
AM >>>

We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 
Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
Kyocera KM-5050 
Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
Canon   ImageRunner 5055 
Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 

Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per
page are right on. 
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them…

Thanks. 
 
 

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Re: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread Steve Ens
+1 for Imagerunners.
+1 for Panasonic.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:32 AM, David Mazzaccaro <
david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com> wrote:

>  We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers.
> Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these?
>
> Kyocera TASKalfa 820
> Kyocera KM-5050
>
> Canon   ImageRunner 5075
> Canon   ImageRunner 5055
>
> Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT
> Xerox   Workcentre 5655P
>
> Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per page
> are right on.
> I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them…
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread RichardMcClary
If they seem to spec the same, I'd shop for which vendor provides the best 
service for your area.
--
Richard D. McClary
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
 
ASPCA®
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802
 
richardmccl...@aspca.org
 
P: 217-337-9761
C: 217-417-1182
F: 217-337-9761
www.aspca.org
 
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"David Mazzaccaro"  wrote on 08/13/2009 
09:32:16 AM:

> We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers. 
> Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these? 
> Kyocera TASKalfa 820 
> Kyocera KM-5050 
> Canon   ImageRunner 5075 
> Canon   ImageRunner 5055 
> Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT 
> Xerox   Workcentre 5655P 
> 
> Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost 
> per page are right on. 
> I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with them? 

> Thanks. 
> 
> 
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Copiers

2009-08-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
We are in the process of looking at a few different copiers.
Anyone have any good/bad/ugly on these?

Kyocera TASKalfa 820
Kyocera KM-5050

Canon   ImageRunner 5075
Canon   ImageRunner 5055

Xerox   Workcentre 5675PT
Xerox   Workcentre 5655P


Spec-wise, they all look very similar.  Even the pricing and cost per
page are right on.
I've never dealt w/ Kyocera - so I am a little hesitant going with
them...

Thanks.


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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