RE: Copying VHD Files

[Ken Schaefer]

Sure. And Hyper-V (which is also "free" or "very cheap" depending on how you 
look at it) doesn't have VMotion, DRS, Storage Motion etc either

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 25 July 2008 12:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Copying VHD Files
>
> ESXi is just the embedded version of ESX. A lot of this is hype. Still need
> to purchase Enterprise to get VMotion, DRS, HA an all of the goodies.
> Basically it is just a scaled down version of ESX with a 32 MG footprint.
> Suppose to be more secure and does away with the service console.
>
> Mike
>
> Original Message:
> -
> From: Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:37:22 +1000
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> Subject: RE: Copying VHD Files
>
>
> Well, VMWare has just announced that ESXi will be free, so that cuts some
> of the price differential. SCVMM 2008 -vs- Vi is another debate.
>
> Certainly for larger shops, there is no competition for VMotion, DRS,
> StorageMotion etc.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 8:52 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copying VHD Files
>
> Yes but the cost is so much better as is the administration of the base
> hardware.  By the end of the year I am suppose to be down to 3 physical
> boxes from 5 and no new boxes scheduled for purchase before I retire.  One
> of the physicals will be an external Web server.
>
> Jon
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:45 AM, John Hornbuckle
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
>
> That's what I ended up doing, and it seems to have worked fine. Hyper-V
> assigned  a new MAC address to the new server, and sysprep took care of the
> SID.
>
>
>
> I'm absolutely loving Hyper-V. I don't have any experience with VMWare, so
> I can't compare them, but as a server virtualization noob I have to say
> this is just the coolest.
>
>
>
> Of course, if my physical server that's hosting multiple virtual servers
> konks out, I'll probably end up cussing the technology and longing for the
> days when one server being down only meant that one server was down rather
> than many...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Ken Schaefer
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:17 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Copying VHD Files
>
>
>
> You don't need to do any of that (the export/import stuff)
>
>
>
> Just create your base machine, and shut it down (e.g. after sysprep)
>
>
>
> Then copy/rename the VHD file. Create a new machine in Hyper-V, and say to
> use an existing hard disk. Point it to the VHD you copied. Run NewSID if
> you didn't sysprep your base image.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 1:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copying VHD Files
>
>
>
> Simple answer yes but you do have some loops to go through to use the
> machine as separate machines.  You will have to export them base machine
> and then re-import the machine.
>
>
>
> Done right is not too bad.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Copying VHD Files

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

ESXi is just the embedded version of ESX. A lot of this is hype. Still need
to purchase Enterprise to get VMotion, DRS, HA an all of the goodies.
Basically it is just a scaled down version of ESX with a 32 MG footprint.
Suppose to be more secure and does away with the service console.

Mike

Original Message:
-
From: Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:37:22 +1000
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Copying VHD Files


Well, VMWare has just announced that ESXi will be free, so that cuts some
of the price differential. SCVMM 2008 -vs- Vi is another debate.

Certainly for larger shops, there is no competition for VMotion, DRS,
StorageMotion etc.

Cheers
Ken

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 8:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copying VHD Files

Yes but the cost is so much better as is the administration of the base
hardware.  By the end of the year I am suppose to be down to 3 physical
boxes from 5 and no new boxes scheduled for purchase before I retire.  One
of the physicals will be an external Web server.

Jon
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:45 AM, John Hornbuckle
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
wrote:

That's what I ended up doing, and it seems to have worked fine. Hyper-V
assigned  a new MAC address to the new server, and sysprep took care of the
SID.



I'm absolutely loving Hyper-V. I don't have any experience with VMWare, so
I can't compare them, but as a server virtualization noob I have to say
this is just the coolest.



Of course, if my physical server that's hosting multiple virtual servers
konks out, I'll probably end up cussing the technology and longing for the
days when one server being down only meant that one server was down rather
than many...









From: Ken Schaefer
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:17 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copying VHD Files



You don't need to do any of that (the export/import stuff)



Just create your base machine, and shut it down (e.g. after sysprep)



Then copy/rename the VHD file. Create a new machine in Hyper-V, and say to
use an existing hard disk. Point it to the VHD you copied. Run NewSID if
you didn't sysprep your base image.



Cheers

Ken



From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 1:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copying VHD Files



Simple answer yes but you do have some loops to go through to use the
machine as separate machines.  You will have to export them base machine
and then re-import the machine.



Done right is not too bad.



Jon





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RE: Copying VHD Files

[Ken Schaefer]

Well, VMWare has just announced that ESXi will be free, so that cuts some of 
the price differential. SCVMM 2008 -vs- Vi is another debate.

Certainly for larger shops, there is no competition for VMotion, DRS, 
StorageMotion etc.

Cheers
Ken

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 8:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copying VHD Files

Yes but the cost is so much better as is the administration of the base 
hardware.  By the end of the year I am suppose to be down to 3 physical boxes 
from 5 and no new boxes scheduled for purchase before I retire.  One of the 
physicals will be an external Web server.

Jon
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:45 AM, John Hornbuckle <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

That's what I ended up doing, and it seems to have worked fine. Hyper-V 
assigned  a new MAC address to the new server, and sysprep took care of the SID.



I'm absolutely loving Hyper-V. I don't have any experience with VMWare, so I 
can't compare them, but as a server virtualization noob I have to say this is 
just the coolest.



Of course, if my physical server that's hosting multiple virtual servers konks 
out, I'll probably end up cussing the technology and longing for the days when 
one server being down only meant that one server was down rather than many...









From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:17 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copying VHD Files



You don't need to do any of that (the export/import stuff)



Just create your base machine, and shut it down (e.g. after sysprep)



Then copy/rename the VHD file. Create a new machine in Hyper-V, and say to use 
an existing hard disk. Point it to the VHD you copied. Run NewSID if you didn't 
sysprep your base image.



Cheers

Ken



From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 1:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copying VHD Files



Simple answer yes but you do have some loops to go through to use the machine 
as separate machines.  You will have to export them base machine and then 
re-import the machine.



Done right is not too bad.



Jon





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Re: Copying VHD Files

[Jon Harris]

Yes but the cost is so much better as is the administration of the base
hardware.  By the end of the year I am suppose to be down to 3 physical
boxes from 5 and no new boxes scheduled for purchase before I retire.  One
of the physicals will be an external Web server.

Jon

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:45 AM, John Hornbuckle <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  That's what I ended up doing, and it seems to have worked fine. Hyper-V
> assigned  a new MAC address to the new server, and sysprep took care of the
> SID.
>
>
>
> I'm absolutely loving Hyper-V. I don't have any experience with VMWare, so
> I can't compare them, but as a server virtualization noob I have to say this
> is just the coolest.
>
>
>
> Of course, if my physical server that's hosting multiple virtual servers
> konks out, I'll probably end up cussing the technology and longing for the
> days when one server being down only meant that one server was down rather
> than many…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:17 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Copying VHD Files
>
>
>
> You don't need to do any of that (the export/import stuff)
>
>
>
> Just create your base machine, and shut it down (e.g. after sysprep)
>
>
>
> Then copy/rename the VHD file. Create a new machine in Hyper-V, and say to
> use an existing hard disk. Point it to the VHD you copied. Run NewSID if you
> didn't sysprep your base image.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 24 July 2008 1:52 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Copying VHD Files
>
>
>
> Simple answer yes but you do have some loops to go through to use the
> machine as separate machines.  You will have to export them base machine and
> then re-import the machine.
>
>
>
> Done right is not too bad.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Copying VHD Files

[John Hornbuckle]

That's what I ended up doing, and it seems to have worked fine. Hyper-V
assigned  a new MAC address to the new server, and sysprep took care of
the SID.

 

I'm absolutely loving Hyper-V. I don't have any experience with VMWare,
so I can't compare them, but as a server virtualization noob I have to
say this is just the coolest.

 

Of course, if my physical server that's hosting multiple virtual servers
konks out, I'll probably end up cussing the technology and longing for
the days when one server being down only meant that one server was down
rather than many...

 

 

 

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Copying VHD Files

 

You don't need to do any of that (the export/import stuff)

 

Just create your base machine, and shut it down (e.g. after sysprep)

 

Then copy/rename the VHD file. Create a new machine in Hyper-V, and say
to use an existing hard disk. Point it to the VHD you copied. Run NewSID
if you didn't sysprep your base image.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 1:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copying VHD Files

 

Simple answer yes but you do have some loops to go through to use the
machine as separate machines.  You will have to export them base machine
and then re-import the machine.

 

Done right is not too bad.

 

Jon

 

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Re: Copying VHD Files

[Jon Harris]

Nice to know, thanks.  Would I need the NewSID even if I plan to add it to
the domain?  I thought adding a machine to the domain gave it a new SID
anyway.

Jon

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  You don't need to do any of that (the export/import stuff)
>
>
>
> Just create your base machine, and shut it down (e.g. after sysprep)
>
>
>
> Then copy/rename the VHD file. Create a new machine in Hyper-V, and say to
> use an existing hard disk. Point it to the VHD you copied. Run NewSID if you
> didn't sysprep your base image.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 24 July 2008 1:52 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Copying VHD Files
>
>
>
> Simple answer yes but you do have some loops to go through to use the
> machine as separate machines.  You will have to export them base machine and
> then re-import the machine.
>
>
>
> Done right is not too bad.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:37 AM, John Hornbuckle <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As I've mentioned before, I'm a noob when it comes to server
> virtualization. Forgive me if this is a dumb question.
>
> I need to create a couple of virtual servers in Hyper-V with the same
> OS. Can I create a VHD, install the OS to it and patch it up, then just
> make copies of that VHD to use in multiple virtual servers? Obviously in
> each virtual server I'd rename the machine. Are there any problems with
> doing this? Like the kinds of things you'd see with cloning hard drives
> with Windows client OS's (e.g., duplicate SIDs)?
>
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> 318 North Clark Street
> Perry, FL 32347
>
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
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>

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RE: Copying VHD Files

[Ken Schaefer]

You don't need to do any of that (the export/import stuff)

Just create your base machine, and shut it down (e.g. after sysprep)

Then copy/rename the VHD file. Create a new machine in Hyper-V, and say to use 
an existing hard disk. Point it to the VHD you copied. Run NewSID if you didn't 
sysprep your base image.

Cheers
Ken

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 1:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copying VHD Files

Simple answer yes but you do have some loops to go through to use the machine 
as separate machines.  You will have to export them base machine and then 
re-import the machine.

Done right is not too bad.

Jon
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:37 AM, John Hornbuckle <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
As I've mentioned before, I'm a noob when it comes to server
virtualization. Forgive me if this is a dumb question.

I need to create a couple of virtual servers in Hyper-V with the same
OS. Can I create a VHD, install the OS to it and patch it up, then just
make copies of that VHD to use in multiple virtual servers? Obviously in
each virtual server I'd rename the machine. Are there any problems with
doing this? Like the kinds of things you'd see with cloning hard drives
with Windows client OS's (e.g., duplicate SIDs)?




John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/>


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Re: Copying VHD Files

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

That is correct. The nice part of ESX and virtual center is that you
install sysprep once
to c:\documents and settings\Allusers\Application Data\VMware\Virtual
Center\Windows\Resources\sysprep. "Customize using the guest customization
wizard" will be grayed out in Virtual Center if not installed. Be careful
when moving a VM to another host because of UUID issue.

mike

Original Message:
-
From: Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:47:21 -0400
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: Copying VHD Files


I didn't and have seen no problems yet but then I am not activating it prior
to the export import process either.

Jon

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:02 PM, John Hornbuckle <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  In Googling this, I'm finding recommendations to run sysprep on the
> machine I'm cloning prior to cloning it…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:52 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Copying VHD Files
>
>
>
> Simple answer yes but you do have some loops to go through to use the
> machine as separate machines.  You will have to export them base machine
and
> then re-import the machine.
>
>
>
> Done right is not too bad.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:37 AM, John Hornbuckle <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As I've mentioned before, I'm a noob when it comes to server
> virtualization. Forgive me if this is a dumb question.
>
> I need to create a couple of virtual servers in Hyper-V with the same
> OS. Can I create a VHD, install the OS to it and patch it up, then just
> make copies of that VHD to use in multiple virtual servers? Obviously in
> each virtual server I'd rename the machine. Are there any problems with
> doing this? Like the kinds of things you'd see with cloning hard drives
> with Windows client OS's (e.g., duplicate SIDs)?
>
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> 318 North Clark Street
> Perry, FL 32347
>
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
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Re: Copying VHD Files

[Sean Martin]

Using Microsoft Virtual Server, we just sysprep the machine once we have it
built to our specs, and then make copies at will.

- Sean


On 7/23/08, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  BTW, you could do a simple copy under Virtual Server but I never did that
> as I was always worried about the SID issue.  Since Hyper-V asks about
> re-using Machine ID's I am hoping that it would change the SID or this is
> some new way to say the same thing.  I also don't add a machine to the
> domain until after it is ready for use.  I believe that it would get a new
> SID at that time anyway.
>
> Jon
>
>
>  On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  It asks you to reuse machine ID's I always decline to do that.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>  I don't know about sysprep but at least you want to run the changesid.
>>> Whenever you copy a vm in vmware products you get asked to create/keep the
>>> computer identifier. Also the .vmx file in vmware contains the MAC address
>>> of the NIC so you could modify this or simply create a new virtual nic so
>>> you don't have mac spoofing stuff occurring.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have not played with HyperV at all to answer unfortunately but
>>> hopefully that puts you in the right direction.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Copying VHD Files

[Jon Harris]

BTW, you could do a simple copy under Virtual Server but I never did that as
I was always worried about the SID issue.  Since Hyper-V asks about re-using
Machine ID's I am hoping that it would change the SID or this is some new
way to say the same thing.  I also don't add a machine to the domain until
after it is ready for use.  I believe that it would get a new SID at that
time anyway.

Jon

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  It asks you to reuse machine ID's I always decline to do that.
>
> Jon
>
>  On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  I don't know about sysprep but at least you want to run the changesid.
>> Whenever you copy a vm in vmware products you get asked to create/keep the
>> computer identifier. Also the .vmx file in vmware contains the MAC address
>> of the NIC so you could modify this or simply create a new virtual nic so
>> you don't have mac spoofing stuff occurring.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have not played with HyperV at all to answer unfortunately but hopefully
>> that puts you in the right direction.
>>
>>
>

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Re: Copying VHD Files

[Jon Harris]

It asks you to reuse machine ID's I always decline to do that.

Jon

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I don't know about sysprep but at least you want to run the changesid.
> Whenever you copy a vm in vmware products you get asked to create/keep the
> computer identifier. Also the .vmx file in vmware contains the MAC address
> of the NIC so you could modify this or simply create a new virtual nic so
> you don't have mac spoofing stuff occurring.
>
>
>
> I have not played with HyperV at all to answer unfortunately but hopefully
> that puts you in the right direction.
>
>

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Re: Copying VHD Files

[Jon Harris]

I didn't and have seen no problems yet but then I am not activating it prior
to the export import process either.

Jon

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:02 PM, John Hornbuckle <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  In Googling this, I'm finding recommendations to run sysprep on the
> machine I'm cloning prior to cloning it…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:52 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Copying VHD Files
>
>
>
> Simple answer yes but you do have some loops to go through to use the
> machine as separate machines.  You will have to export them base machine and
> then re-import the machine.
>
>
>
> Done right is not too bad.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:37 AM, John Hornbuckle <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As I've mentioned before, I'm a noob when it comes to server
> virtualization. Forgive me if this is a dumb question.
>
> I need to create a couple of virtual servers in Hyper-V with the same
> OS. Can I create a VHD, install the OS to it and patch it up, then just
> make copies of that VHD to use in multiple virtual servers? Obviously in
> each virtual server I'd rename the machine. Are there any problems with
> doing this? Like the kinds of things you'd see with cloning hard drives
> with Windows client OS's (e.g., duplicate SIDs)?
>
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> 318 North Clark Street
> Perry, FL 32347
>
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
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RE: Copying VHD Files

[Benjamin Zachary - Lists]

I don't know about sysprep but at least you want to run the changesid.
Whenever you copy a vm in vmware products you get asked to create/keep the
computer identifier. Also the .vmx file in vmware contains the MAC address
of the NIC so you could modify this or simply create a new virtual nic so
you don't have mac spoofing stuff occurring. 

 

I have not played with HyperV at all to answer unfortunately but hopefully
that puts you in the right direction. 


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RE: Copying VHD Files

[John Hornbuckle]

In Googling this, I'm finding recommendations to run sysprep on the
machine I'm cloning prior to cloning it...

 

 

 

 

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copying VHD Files

 

Simple answer yes but you do have some loops to go through to use the
machine as separate machines.  You will have to export them base machine
and then re-import the machine.

 

Done right is not too bad.

 

Jon

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:37 AM, John Hornbuckle
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

As I've mentioned before, I'm a noob when it comes to server
virtualization. Forgive me if this is a dumb question.

I need to create a couple of virtual servers in Hyper-V with the same
OS. Can I create a VHD, install the OS to it and patch it up, then just
make copies of that VHD to use in multiple virtual servers? Obviously in
each virtual server I'd rename the machine. Are there any problems with
doing this? Like the kinds of things you'd see with cloning hard drives
with Windows client OS's (e.g., duplicate SIDs)?




John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us <http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/> 


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RE: Copying VHD Files

[Eldridge, Dave]

Not as simple as the ESX console or VMWorkstation where you right click
- clone. Anyone know why the free VMServer doesn't also have a clone
feature?

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Copying VHD Files

 

Simple answer yes but you do have some loops to go through to use the
machine as separate machines.  You will have to export them base machine
and then re-import the machine.

 

Done right is not too bad.

 

Jon

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:37 AM, John Hornbuckle
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

As I've mentioned before, I'm a noob when it comes to server
virtualization. Forgive me if this is a dumb question.

I need to create a couple of virtual servers in Hyper-V with the same
OS. Can I create a VHD, install the OS to it and patch it up, then just
make copies of that VHD to use in multiple virtual servers? Obviously in
each virtual server I'd rename the machine. Are there any problems with
doing this? Like the kinds of things you'd see with cloning hard drives
with Windows client OS's (e.g., duplicate SIDs)?




John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us <http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/> 


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Re: Copying VHD Files

[Jon Harris]

Simple answer yes but you do have some loops to go through to use the
machine as separate machines.  You will have to export them base machine and
then re-import the machine.

Done right is not too bad.

Jon

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:37 AM, John Hornbuckle <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As I've mentioned before, I'm a noob when it comes to server
> virtualization. Forgive me if this is a dumb question.
>
> I need to create a couple of virtual servers in Hyper-V with the same
> OS. Can I create a VHD, install the OS to it and patch it up, then just
> make copies of that VHD to use in multiple virtual servers? Obviously in
> each virtual server I'd rename the machine. Are there any problems with
> doing this? Like the kinds of things you'd see with cloning hard drives
> with Windows client OS's (e.g., duplicate SIDs)?
>
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> 318 North Clark Street
> Perry, FL 32347
>
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
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RE: Copying VHD Files

[Glen Johnson]

I've done it in VMWare free server many times with no problem and am
actually installing a WS03 template server on Hyper-v at this moment.
I'll let you know how it works later today.

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Copying VHD Files

As I've mentioned before, I'm a noob when it comes to server
virtualization. Forgive me if this is a dumb question.

I need to create a couple of virtual servers in Hyper-V with the same
OS. Can I create a VHD, install the OS to it and patch it up, then just
make copies of that VHD to use in multiple virtual servers? Obviously in
each virtual server I'd rename the machine. Are there any problems with
doing this? Like the kinds of things you'd see with cloning hard drives
with Windows client OS's (e.g., duplicate SIDs)?




John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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Copying VHD Files

[John Hornbuckle]

As I've mentioned before, I'm a noob when it comes to server
virtualization. Forgive me if this is a dumb question.

I need to create a couple of virtual servers in Hyper-V with the same
OS. Can I create a VHD, install the OS to it and patch it up, then just
make copies of that VHD to use in multiple virtual servers? Obviously in
each virtual server I'd rename the machine. Are there any problems with
doing this? Like the kinds of things you'd see with cloning hard drives
with Windows client OS's (e.g., duplicate SIDs)?




John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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