Re: Reliability of Cybernetics san/nas HW

2013-02-14 Thread Richard Stovall 
I have use Cybernetics gear in the past.  Make sure you check the support
options very carefully and understand what type of response you're entitled
to before pulling the trigger.

Also make sure the unit you're considering is on the HCL for both VMware
and Hyper-V.

For inexpensive iSCSI storage, have you looked at QNAP?  I have a
TS-859U-RP+ that has been flawless as a VMware datastore for about a year
and a half.


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Scott Kaufman  wrote:

> Thanks Glen.
>
> Only looking at a single unit, so no replication.
>  The unit is being recommended by the department to support a
> virtualization environment, using esx & hyper-v v3, in both clustered and
> non-clustered configurations.  And they would be constantly building &
> tearing down VM’s, so there is going to be lots of random I/O.
>
> I haven’t been able to find any useful information on how performant this
> unit will be for the needs.
>
> Scott
>
> Sent from Windows RT
>
>  *From:* Glen Johnson 
> *Sent:* ‎February‎ ‎14‎, ‎2013 ‎10‎:‎56‎ ‎AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues 
> *Subject:* RE: Reliability of Cybernetics san/nas HW
>
>
> We have two of their units.
>
> One miSAN-D8 with 8 x 3 tb SATA drives.
>
> One iSAND with 6 x SAS drive and 6 x SATA drives.
>
> We’ve been quite happy with the support overall.  We had two drives in the
> miSAND fail. They provide a spare for us to keep on site, replace the
> failed drive, send it back to them and they return a replacement spare in a
> few days.
>
> We originally had a problem getting replication to complete between the
> two units, but the latest firmware solved that problem.
>
> Now, I don’t have anything to compare it against for performance, but for
> our use it is works well.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Scott Kaufman [mailto:bskauf...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:34 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Reliability of Cybernetics san/nas HW
>
> ** **
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> ** **
>
> Does anyone have any experience with Cybernetics SAN/NAS hardware?  We
> have a request from a department that wants to get an 16TB model.
>
> Looks like the model # is: miSAN-D8/T8: 8TB SATA 7.2K drives, 8 bay, 2U***
> *
>
> with an expansion unit of: EX8/T8: 8TB SATA 7.2K drives, 8 bay, 2U
>
> ** **
>
> I've read the marketing stuff from the company.  I've found a few reviews,
> with more than 50% being negative.
>
> Just looking for more information & experience if anyone has any they'd be
> willing to share.
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
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RE: Reliability of Cybernetics san/nas HW

2013-02-14 Thread Glen Johnson 
Can’t speak to much for vm performance.
We have one esxi 5.0 host with 4 guests on the isand and performance on that 
small load is very good.

Our main use is a datastore for dpm backups.

From: Scott Kaufman [mailto:bskauf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reliability of Cybernetics san/nas HW

Thanks Glen.

Only looking at a single unit, so no replication.
 The unit is being recommended by the department to support a virtualization 
environment, using esx & hyper-v v3, in both clustered and non-clustered 
configurations.  And they would be constantly building & tearing down VM’s, so 
there is going to be lots of random I/O.

I haven’t been able to find any useful information on how performant this unit 
will be for the needs.

Scott

Sent from Windows RT

From: Glen Johnson mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu>>
Sent: ‎February‎ ‎14‎, ‎2013 ‎10‎:‎56‎ ‎AM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Reliability of Cybernetics san/nas HW

We have two of their units.
One miSAN-D8 with 8 x 3 tb SATA drives.
One iSAND with 6 x SAS drive and 6 x SATA drives.
We’ve been quite happy with the support overall.  We had two drives in the 
miSAND fail. They provide a spare for us to keep on site, replace the failed 
drive, send it back to them and they return a replacement spare in a few days.
We originally had a problem getting replication to complete between the two 
units, but the latest firmware solved that problem.
Now, I don’t have anything to compare it against for performance, but for our 
use it is works well.


From: Scott Kaufman [mailto:bskauf...@gmail.com<mailto:bskauf...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Reliability of Cybernetics san/nas HW

Hello everyone,

Does anyone have any experience with Cybernetics SAN/NAS hardware?  We have a 
request from a department that wants to get an 16TB model.
Looks like the model # is: miSAN-D8/T8: 8TB SATA 7.2K drives, 8 bay, 2U
with an expansion unit of: EX8/T8: 8TB SATA 7.2K drives, 8 bay, 2U

I've read the marketing stuff from the company.  I've found a few reviews, with 
more than 50% being negative.
Just looking for more information & experience if anyone has any they'd be 
willing to share.

Thanks,
Scott

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RE: Reliability of Cybernetics san/nas HW

2013-02-14 Thread Glen Johnson 
We have two of their units.
One miSAN-D8 with 8 x 3 tb SATA drives.
One iSAND with 6 x SAS drive and 6 x SATA drives.
We’ve been quite happy with the support overall.  We had two drives in the 
miSAND fail. They provide a spare for us to keep on site, replace the failed 
drive, send it back to them and they return a replacement spare in a few days.
We originally had a problem getting replication to complete between the two 
units, but the latest firmware solved that problem.
Now, I don’t have anything to compare it against for performance, but for our 
use it is works well.


From: Scott Kaufman [mailto:bskauf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Reliability of Cybernetics san/nas HW

Hello everyone,

Does anyone have any experience with Cybernetics SAN/NAS hardware?  We have a 
request from a department that wants to get an 16TB model.
Looks like the model # is: miSAN-D8/T8: 8TB SATA 7.2K drives, 8 bay, 2U
with an expansion unit of: EX8/T8: 8TB SATA 7.2K drives, 8 bay, 2U

I've read the marketing stuff from the company.  I've found a few reviews, with 
more than 50% being negative.
Just looking for more information & experience if anyone has any they'd be 
willing to share.

Thanks,
Scott

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RE: Cybernetics san

2011-04-18 Thread Level 5 Lists 
Unless they are offering something out of the ordinary I would look at 
Nexenta's offerings, and just get support direct by either building your own or 
one of their channel partners. I think pogo makes decent stuff, and those new 
dual mobo nexenta boxes with the 10gb crossover looks pretty nice too. (I 
forget who makes them ... ) . Aberdeen boxes we picked up in December are 
decent, @ 8k , 5yr warranty, gold support w/ Nexenta (replication, 
snapshotting, compression, and de-duping licensed). 

If your running sata its hard to get 16tb unless you are dropping 2tb drives so 
your spindle speed isnt going to be fantastic. Depends on your needs... I have 
4 esx boxes at a client running an Aberdeen box Nexenta 3.04 w/ 8 1tb drives. 
It runs pretty well, 24 servers (sql, exchange, storage) for about 75 users .. 
That unit does 4 hr replication to a secondary unit over a 10mb fiber, it took 
a bit to get it going but seems to be working nicely now.



-Original Message-
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cybernetics san

Anyone have comments about these folks.
Got a call as I was leaving work on Friday and from the sales droid sphell, it 
sounds pretty reasonable.  Off the cuff, 16tb for under $10k.
Got a webex tomorrow and plan to do some reading later today, but would 
appreciate any advice from folks with experience.
We are looking to move several vm's to a san for offsite replications and also 
high availability.
May also move our SQL and Exchange 2010 databases to the SAN later on.
Didn't see them mentioned when searching the list archives so I thought I'd ask.

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Cybernetics san

2011-04-18 Thread Glen Johnson 
Anyone have comments about these folks.
Got a call as I was leaving work on Friday and from the sales droid sphell, it 
sounds pretty reasonable.  Off the cuff, 16tb for under $10k.
Got a webex tomorrow and plan to do some reading later today, but would 
appreciate any advice from folks with experience.
We are looking to move several vm's to a san for offsite replications and also 
high availability.
May also move our SQL and Exchange 2010 databases to the SAN later on.
Didn't see them mentioned when searching the list archives so I thought I'd ask.

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