D/R and SAN
I appreciate all your input. I have decided to revisit my plan at a later date after I've gotten a better handle on how much data I have that I would need to move from desktop machines. I still hope to bring email in-house next year, but the SAN project (if it ever comes about) will probably be put off for awhile. In the meantime, for D/R purposes, I am going to see about getting a tape library with a good maintenance contract. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: D/R and SAN
what backup software do you use? -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 24 September 2010 16:51 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: D/R and SAN I appreciate all your input. I have decided to revisit my plan at a later date after I've gotten a better handle on how much data I have that I would need to move from desktop machines. I still hope to bring email in-house next year, but the SAN project (if it ever comes about) will probably be put off for awhile. In the meantime, for D/R purposes, I am going to see about getting a tape library with a good maintenance contract. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: D/R and SAN
None. -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: D/R and SAN what backup software do you use? -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 24 September 2010 16:51 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: D/R and SAN I appreciate all your input. I have decided to revisit my plan at a later date after I've gotten a better handle on how much data I have that I would need to move from desktop machines. I still hope to bring email in-house next year, but the SAN project (if it ever comes about) will probably be put off for awhile. In the meantime, for D/R purposes, I am going to see about getting a tape library with a good maintenance contract. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: D/R and SAN
You are missing the point. You don't know what your requirements are yet. How do you even know you need a tape library?!? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, 24 September 2010 11:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: D/R and SAN I appreciate all your input. I have decided to revisit my plan at a later date after I've gotten a better handle on how much data I have that I would need to move from desktop machines. I still hope to bring email in-house next year, but the SAN project (if it ever comes about) will probably be put off for awhile. In the meantime, for D/R purposes, I am going to see about getting a tape library with a good maintenance contract. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: D/R and SAN
...and don't put paper in the bathroom, you may only need to take a piss. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: You are missing the point. You don't know what your requirements are yet. How do you even know you need a tape library?!? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, 24 September 2010 11:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: D/R and SAN I appreciate all your input. I have decided to revisit my plan at a later date after I've gotten a better handle on how much data I have that I would need to move from desktop machines. I still hope to bring email in-house next year, but the SAN project (if it ever comes about) will probably be put off for awhile. In the meantime, for D/R purposes, I am going to see about getting a tape library with a good maintenance contract. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: D/R and SAN
Definitely something to investigate as the difference between good backup software and bad backup software is going home at night or the weekend and not wondering if your backups are going to complete. Personally I like Commvault (the product not the pricing), though they do various Express editions through Dell which give you a heck of a lot of functionality. Ken has a point about trying to nail down some requirements before pulling the trigger and buying anything, though personally I'm a little old school in that I don't care how much replication or redundancy I have in my disk storage, at some point I want a box of tapes to lock away offsite. I guess what I'm saying is that even if you're not clear where you're going to end up, a decent tape library is something I think you'll use. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 24 September 2010 17:20 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: D/R and SAN None. -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: D/R and SAN what backup software do you use? -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 24 September 2010 16:51 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: D/R and SAN I appreciate all your input. I have decided to revisit my plan at a later date after I've gotten a better handle on how much data I have that I would need to move from desktop machines. I still hope to bring email in-house next year, but the SAN project (if it ever comes about) will probably be put off for awhile. In the meantime, for D/R purposes, I am going to see about getting a tape library with a good maintenance contract. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: D/R and SAN
Well, I need *some* sort of archival backup. I don't like not having any sort of archival backup. I suppose I could use a bunch of USB or firewire hard drives and rotate them, but I'm not really comfortable with that option as I've tried it at a previous employer and it was hideously slow. -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: D/R and SAN You are missing the point. You don't know what your requirements are yet. How do you even know you need a tape library?!? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, 24 September 2010 11:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: D/R and SAN I appreciate all your input. I have decided to revisit my plan at a later date after I've gotten a better handle on how much data I have that I would need to move from desktop machines. I still hope to bring email in-house next year, but the SAN project (if it ever comes about) will probably be put off for awhile. In the meantime, for D/R purposes, I am going to see about getting a tape library with a good maintenance contract. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: D/R and SAN
-Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: D/R and SAN Well, I need *some* sort of archival backup. Really? You sure? I don't like not having any sort of archival backup. What you like, and what the business needs, are two different things. Think of a Venn diagram. There will be some areas that overlap between your 'likes' and 'business needs'. Everything else is wasting your time Do you need full back-ups every day? Differential? Incremental? What needs to be backed up - everything? Only some things? What is your RTO? Can some stuff be backed-up to online storage - does it all need to be offline? Etc, etc, etc. please don't bother to answer now - it's pretty clear you need to go away and figure this out All of these things drive what you need to buy. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: D/R and SAN You are missing the point. You don't know what your requirements are yet. How do you even know you need a tape library?!? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, 24 September 2010 11:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: D/R and SAN I appreciate all your input. I have decided to revisit my plan at a later date after I've gotten a better handle on how much data I have that I would need to move from desktop machines. I still hope to bring email in-house next year, but the SAN project (if it ever comes about) will probably be put off for awhile. In the meantime, for D/R purposes, I am going to see about getting a tape library with a good maintenance contract. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: D/R and SAN
Thanks for your input. I'll see about finding a good consultant. One of our fellow listers works for a consultancy in Atlanta and I've sent them email. -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: D/R and SAN -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: D/R and SAN Well, I need *some* sort of archival backup. Really? You sure? I don't like not having any sort of archival backup. What you like, and what the business needs, are two different things. Think of a Venn diagram. There will be some areas that overlap between your 'likes' and 'business needs'. Everything else is wasting your time Do you need full back-ups every day? Differential? Incremental? What needs to be backed up - everything? Only some things? What is your RTO? Can some stuff be backed-up to online storage - does it all need to be offline? Etc, etc, etc. please don't bother to answer now - it's pretty clear you need to go away and figure this out All of these things drive what you need to buy. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: D/R and SAN You are missing the point. You don't know what your requirements are yet. How do you even know you need a tape library?!? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, 24 September 2010 11:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: D/R and SAN I appreciate all your input. I have decided to revisit my plan at a later date after I've gotten a better handle on how much data I have that I would need to move from desktop machines. I still hope to bring email in-house next year, but the SAN project (if it ever comes about) will probably be put off for awhile. In the meantime, for D/R purposes, I am going to see about getting a tape library with a good maintenance contract. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
