Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Chipshead]

+1 on what Michael said. I did this after researching it, including asking 
questions on the Exchange list, and it mucks up address book replication pretty 
darn good. Obviously I didn't research it well enough although at the time the 
information out there was confusing at best (from my perspective). I called MS 
and they told me to have a nice day and go pound sand. I'm hoping I can make 
things right once I actually get the RTM product on board. 



If anyone can offer advice on bringing the final version of Exchange 2010 up on 
new hardware and migrating from 2003 with a RC candidate already having touched 
the network I'd appreciate it. 



- Original Message - 
From: "Michael B. Smith"  
To: "NT System Admin Issues"  
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:48:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 



ABsolutely positively do NOT do this. As Brian said, it isn't supported. I can 
also assure you that you would regret it. The upgrade can be painful. 



From: Bob Fronk [...@btrfronk.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:22 PM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 






I was planning on rolling out Exchange 2007 in the next 60 days.  I have the 
hardware and need to complete the project.  Given that the RC is upgradable to 
RTM, would any of you go ahead and deploy the RC in production?  I don’t want 
to delay the project, plus I don’t want to do another migration from 2007 to 
2010. 



Next question:  How many of you would install Exchange  as a VM on Hyper-V vs. 
Exchange stand alone.  I was considering running Exchange as a single VM on the 
hardware purchased to run it stand alone.  (Quad – Quad Core, 32GB Ram – 2TB 
iSCSI array)  This would be for DR purposes. 









From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:24 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 





You are incorrect. 





It is 100K items per folder. 








From: chipsh...@comcast.net [chipsh...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:55 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7? 



I believe that it is 100,000 items total per account not per folder. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael B. Smith"  
To: "NT System Admin Issues"  
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:38:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 



Yes, well, lots of executives don't seem to understand how to click an "X" or 
hit the delete key. But Outlook 2007 with service pack 2 will (should) perform 
as well as Outlook 2010 RTM. 





And replying to Andy Leedy's comment - yes, you can collocate CAS/HT on MB 
servers in HA situations using Exchange 2010; HOWEVER - that would also require 
you to have a redundant LB in front of that server for it to be HA. 








From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:52 PM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 



Maybe? 



Th ��� s an insane number of items in one folder. 




Thanks, 

Brian Desmond 

br...@briandesmond.com 



c - 312.731.3132 





From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:48 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7? 




I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Desmond"  
To: "NT System Admin Issues"  
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine 

Thanks, 
Brian Desmond 
br...@briandesmond.com 

c - 312.731.3132 


-Original Message- 
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7? 

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication. 

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011. 

Thanks, 
Devin 

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman < c.house...@gmail.com > wrote: 
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008 
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath. 
> 
> 
> 
> Carl 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Phillip Partipilo 
> 
> Parame

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Bob Fronk]

What part are you referring to?  Upgrade or VM?  I have already ruled out 
upgrade.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

ABsolutely positively do NOT do this. As Brian said, it isn't supported. I can 
also assure you that you would regret it. The upgrade can be painful.


From: Bob Fronk [...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
I was planning on rolling out Exchange 2007 in the next 60 days.  I have the 
hardware and need to complete the project.  Given that the RC is upgradable to 
RTM, would any of you go ahead and deploy the RC in production?  I don’t want 
to delay the project, plus I don’t want to do another migration from 2007 to 
2010.

Next question:  How many of you would install Exchange  as a VM on Hyper-V vs. 
Exchange stand alone.  I was considering running Exchange as a single VM on the 
hardware purchased to run it stand alone.  (Quad – Quad Core, 32GB Ram – 2TB 
iSCSI array)  This would be for DR purposes.



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

You are incorrect.

It is 100K items per folder.


From: chipsh...@comcast.net [chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?
I believe that it is 100,000 items total per account not per folder.
- Original Message -
From: "Michael B. Smith" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:38:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
Yes, well, lots of executives don't seem to understand how to click an "X" or 
hit the delete key. But Outlook 2007 with service pack 2 will (should) perform 
as well as Outlook 2010 RTM.

And replying to Andy Leedy's comment - yes, you can collocate CAS/HT on MB 
servers in HA situations using Exchange 2010; HOWEVER - that would also require 
you to have a redundant LB in front of that server for it to be HA.


From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
Maybe?

Th���s an insane number of items in one folder.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000.
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Desmond" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

c - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication.

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011.

Thanks,
Devin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman 
mailto:c.house...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Phillip Partipilo 
> [mailto:p...@psnet.com]<mailto:[mailto:p...@psnet.com]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean Rector 
> [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]<mailto:[mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely
> going to go to 2k10.
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward 
> [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]<mailto:[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]>
> Sent: Sunday

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Michael B. Smith]

ABsolutely positively do NOT do this. As Brian said, it isn't supported. I can 
also assure you that you would regret it. The upgrade can be painful.


From: Bob Fronk [...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

I was planning on rolling out Exchange 2007 in the next 60 days.  I have the 
hardware and need to complete the project.  Given that the RC is upgradable to 
RTM, would any of you go ahead and deploy the RC in production?  I don’t want 
to delay the project, plus I don’t want to do another migration from 2007 to 
2010.

Next question:  How many of you would install Exchange  as a VM on Hyper-V vs. 
Exchange stand alone.  I was considering running Exchange as a single VM on the 
hardware purchased to run it stand alone.  (Quad – Quad Core, 32GB Ram – 2TB 
iSCSI array)  This would be for DR purposes.



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

You are incorrect.

It is 100K items per folder.


From: chipsh...@comcast.net [chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?
I believe that it is 100,000 items total per account not per folder.
- Original Message -
From: "Michael B. Smith" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:38:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
Yes, well, lots of executives don't seem to understand how to click an "X" or 
hit the delete key. But Outlook 2007 with service pack 2 will (should) perform 
as well as Outlook 2010 RTM.

And replying to Andy Leedy's comment - yes, you can collocate CAS/HT on MB 
servers in HA situations using Exchange 2010; HOWEVER - that would also require 
you to have a redundant LB in front of that server for it to be HA.


From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
Maybe?

Th���s an insane number of items in one folder.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000.
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Desmond" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

c - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication.

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011.

Thanks,
Devin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman 
mailto:c.house...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Phillip Partipilo 
> [mailto:p...@psnet.com]<mailto:[mailto:p...@psnet.com]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean Rector 
> [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]<mailto:[mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely
> going to go to 2k10.
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward 
> [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]<mailto:[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new
> exchange...
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Michael B. Smith]

Actually, the original ANSI PST format only supports 16K items per folder.

"Large folder" support was a feature of the personal store added with Outlook 
2000, that bumped the ANSI limit to 64K.

Unicode PSTs, as far as I know, are good up to 2^31-1 items. However, the 
support boundary is beneath that.

From: Ben Scott [mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Brian Desmond  wrote:
>> Good to know. Thanks. On Ex 2003 is it also 5000 limit per folder?
>
> AFAIK there is no hard limit, it’s just a strong recommendation for
> performance reasons.

  PST/OST used to explode if it had more than 65535 items in a single
folder.  I dunno if that's still the case with the Outlook "Unicode
format", but if it is, that would be a hard limit unless you can run
in online mode all the time.  (No offline or cached mode.)

  (Yes, I know that OUTLOOK.EXE is a different file from STORE.EXE.
Outlook is still the native Exchange client, no matter what
Microsoft's marketing department says.)

  (Yes, I also think that putting 64K items in a single folder should
qualify as criminal insanity.  :)  )

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Brian Desmond  wrote:
>> Good to know. Thanks. On Ex 2003 is it also 5000 limit per folder?
>
> AFAIK there is no hard limit, it’s just a strong recommendation for
> performance reasons.

  PST/OST used to explode if it had more than 65535 items in a single
folder.  I dunno if that's still the case with the Outlook "Unicode
format", but if it is, that would be a hard limit unless you can run
in online mode all the time.  (No offline or cached mode.)

  (Yes, I know that OUTLOOK.EXE is a different file from STORE.EXE.
Outlook is still the native Exchange client, no matter what
Microsoft's marketing department says.)

  (Yes, I also think that putting 64K items in a single folder should
qualify as criminal insanity.  :)  )

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Bob Fronk]

Thanks, I didn’t know the release date.  I will look into the CPU issue.

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Bob-

Exchange 2010 will be available to volume licensing customers on Nov 1. I would 
not deploy the RC in production – there is no support for that.

You can’t pass through more than I think 4 CPUs to a HyperV instance so you’d 
be not using 12 of those cores. Maybe this has changed in R2 though.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

I was planning on rolling out Exchange 2007 in the next 60 days.  I have the 
hardware and need to complete the project.  Given that the RC is upgradable to 
RTM, would any of you go ahead and deploy the RC in production?  I don’t want 
to delay the project, plus I don’t want to do another migration from 2007 to 
2010.

Next question:  How many of you would install Exchange  as a VM on Hyper-V vs. 
Exchange stand alone.  I was considering running Exchange as a single VM on the 
hardware purchased to run it stand alone.  (Quad – Quad Core, 32GB Ram – 2TB 
iSCSI array)  This would be for DR purposes.



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

You are incorrect.

It is 100K items per folder.


From: chipsh...@comcast.net [chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?
I believe that it is 100,000 items total per account not per folder.
- Original Message -
From: "Michael B. Smith" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:38:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
Yes, well, lots of executives don't seem to understand how to click an "X" or 
hit the delete key. But Outlook 2007 with service pack 2 will (should) perform 
as well as Outlook 2010 RTM.

And replying to Andy Leedy's comment - yes, you can collocate CAS/HT on MB 
servers in HA situations using Exchange 2010; HOWEVER - that would also require 
you to have a redundant LB in front of that server for it to be HA.


From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
Maybe?

Th���s an insane number of items in one folder.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000.
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Desmond" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

c - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication.

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011.

Thanks,
Devin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman 
mailto:c.house...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Phillip Partipilo 
> [mailto:p...@psnet.com]<mailto:[mailto:p...@psnet.com]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean Rector 
> [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]<mailto:[mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely
> going to go to 2k10.
>

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Brian Desmond]

Bob-

Exchange 2010 will be available to volume licensing customers on Nov 1. I would 
not deploy the RC in production – there is no support for that.

You can’t pass through more than I think 4 CPUs to a HyperV instance so you’d 
be not using 12 of those cores. Maybe this has changed in R2 though.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

I was planning on rolling out Exchange 2007 in the next 60 days.  I have the 
hardware and need to complete the project.  Given that the RC is upgradable to 
RTM, would any of you go ahead and deploy the RC in production?  I don’t want 
to delay the project, plus I don’t want to do another migration from 2007 to 
2010.

Next question:  How many of you would install Exchange  as a VM on Hyper-V vs. 
Exchange stand alone.  I was considering running Exchange as a single VM on the 
hardware purchased to run it stand alone.  (Quad – Quad Core, 32GB Ram – 2TB 
iSCSI array)  This would be for DR purposes.



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

You are incorrect.

It is 100K items per folder.


From: chipsh...@comcast.net [chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?
I believe that it is 100,000 items total per account not per folder.
- Original Message -
From: "Michael B. Smith" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:38:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
Yes, well, lots of executives don't seem to understand how to click an "X" or 
hit the delete key. But Outlook 2007 with service pack 2 will (should) perform 
as well as Outlook 2010 RTM.

And replying to Andy Leedy's comment - yes, you can collocate CAS/HT on MB 
servers in HA situations using Exchange 2010; HOWEVER - that would also require 
you to have a redundant LB in front of that server for it to be HA.


From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
Maybe?

Th���s an insane number of items in one folder.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000.
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Desmond" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

c - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication.

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011.

Thanks,
Devin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman 
mailto:c.house...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Phillip Partipilo 
> [mailto:p...@psnet.com]<mailto:[mailto:p...@psnet.com]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean Rector 
> [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]<mailto:[mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely
> going to go to 2k10.
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward 
> [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]<mailto:[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin 

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Bob Fronk]

I was planning on rolling out Exchange 2007 in the next 60 days.  I have the 
hardware and need to complete the project.  Given that the RC is upgradable to 
RTM, would any of you go ahead and deploy the RC in production?  I don’t want 
to delay the project, plus I don’t want to do another migration from 2007 to 
2010.

Next question:  How many of you would install Exchange  as a VM on Hyper-V vs. 
Exchange stand alone.  I was considering running Exchange as a single VM on the 
hardware purchased to run it stand alone.  (Quad – Quad Core, 32GB Ram – 2TB 
iSCSI array)  This would be for DR purposes.



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

You are incorrect.

It is 100K items per folder.


From: chipsh...@comcast.net [chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?
I believe that it is 100,000 items total per account not per folder.
- Original Message -
From: "Michael B. Smith" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:38:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
Yes, well, lots of executives don't seem to understand how to click an "X" or 
hit the delete key. But Outlook 2007 with service pack 2 will (should) perform 
as well as Outlook 2010 RTM.

And replying to Andy Leedy's comment - yes, you can collocate CAS/HT on MB 
servers in HA situations using Exchange 2010; HOWEVER - that would also require 
you to have a redundant LB in front of that server for it to be HA.


From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
Maybe?

Th���s an insane number of items in one folder.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000.
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Desmond" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

c - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication.

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011.

Thanks,
Devin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman 
mailto:c.house...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Phillip Partipilo 
> [mailto:p...@psnet.com]<mailto:[mailto:p...@psnet.com]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean Rector 
> [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]<mailto:[mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely
> going to go to 2k10.
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward 
> [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]<mailto:[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new
> exchange...
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org<mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org>
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>
> 
>
> From: Leedy, Andy 
> [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]<mai

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Brian Desmond]

AFAIK there is no hard limit, it’s just a strong recommendation for performance 
reasons.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

Good to know. Thanks. On Ex 2003 is it also 5000 limit per folder?
- Original Message -
From: "Michael B. Smith" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:24:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
You are incorrect.

It is 100K items per folder.


From: chipsh...@comcast.net [chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?
I believe that it is 100,000 items total per account not per folder.
- Original Message -
From: "Michael B. Smith" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:38:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
Yes, well, lots of executives don't seem to understand how to click an "X" or 
hit the delete key. But Outlook 2007 with service pack 2 will (should) perform 
as well as Outlook 2010 RTM.

And replying to Andy Leedy's comment - yes, you can collocate CAS/HT on MB 
servers in HA situations using Exchange 2010; HOWEVER - that would also require 
you to have a redundant LB in front of that server for it to be HA.


From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
Maybe?

Th���s an insane number of items in one folder.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000.
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Desmond" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

c - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication.

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011.

Thanks,
Devin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman 
mailto:c.house...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Phillip Partipilo 
> [mailto:p...@psnet.com]<mailto:[mailto:p...@psnet.com]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean Rector 
> [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]<mailto:[mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely
> going to go to 2k10.
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward 
> [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]<mailto:[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new
> exchange...
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org<mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org>
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>
> 
>
> From: Leedy, Andy 
> [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]<mailto:[mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]>
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> +1
>
>

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Chipshead]

Good to know. Thanks. On Ex 2003 is it also 5000 limit per folder? 
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael B. Smith"  
To: "NT System Admin Issues"  
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:24:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 



You are incorrect. 

It is 100K items per folder. 



From: chipsh...@comcast.net [chipsh...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:55 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7? 




I believe that it is 100,000 items total per account not per folder. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael B. Smith"  
To: "NT System Admin Issues"  
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:38:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 



Yes, well, lots of executives don't seem to understand how to click an "X" or 
hit the delete key. But Outlook 2007 with service pack 2 will (should) perform 
as well as Outlook 2010 RTM. 

And replying to Andy Leedy's comment - yes, you can collocate CAS/HT on MB 
servers in HA situations using Exchange 2010; HOWEVER - that would also require 
you to have a redundant LB in front of that server for it to be HA. 



From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:52 PM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 






Maybe? 



Th���s an insane number of items in one folder. 




Thanks, 

Brian Desmond 

br...@briandesmond.com 



c - 312.731.3132 





From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:48 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7? 




I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Desmond"  
To: "NT System Admin Issues"  
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine 

Thanks, 
Brian Desmond 
br...@briandesmond.com 

c - 312.731.3132 


-Original Message- 
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7? 

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication. 

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011. 

Thanks, 
Devin 

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman < c.house...@gmail.com > wrote: 
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008 
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath. 
> 
> 
> 
> Carl 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Phillip Partipilo 
> 
> Parametric Solutions Inc. 
> 
> Jupiter, Florida 
> 
> (561) 747-6107 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] 
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely 
> going to go to 2k10. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sean Rector, MCSE 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new 
> exchange... 
> 
> Z 
> 
> 
> 
> Edward Ziots 
> 
> Network Engineer 
> 
> Lifespan Organization 
> 
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + 
> 
> ezi...@lifespan.org 
> 
> Phone:401-639-3505 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> +1 
> 
> 
> 
>  From what I've heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers. 
> Less hardware. J 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> You're going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010. 
> There's no in place upgrade or anything like that. 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Holstrom, Don]

Wow! If I go to 10, no one will ever delete anything…

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

You are incorrect.

 

It is 100K items per folder.

 



From: chipsh...@comcast.net [chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

I believe that it is 100,000 items total per account not per folder.
- Original Message -
From: "Michael B. Smith" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:38:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Yes, well, lots of executives don't seem to understand how to click an "X" or 
hit the delete key. But Outlook 2007 with service pack 2 will (should) perform 
as well as Outlook 2010 RTM.

 

And replying to Andy Leedy's comment - yes, you can collocate CAS/HT on MB 
servers in HA situations using Exchange 2010; HOWEVER - that would also require 
you to have a redundant LB in front of that server for it to be HA.

 



From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Maybe?

 

Th���s an insane number of items in one folder.

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000.
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Desmond" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication.

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011.

Thanks,
Devin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman  wrote:
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely
> going to go to 2k10.
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new
> exchange...
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>
> 
>
> From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> +1
>
>
>
>  From what I've heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers.
> Less hardware. J
>
>
>
> From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> You're going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010.
> There's no in place upgrade or anything like that.
>
>
>
> If you're just running one box then it seems logical to me that going
> straight to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run.
>
>
>
> Than

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Michael B. Smith]

You are incorrect.

It is 100K items per folder.


From: chipsh...@comcast.net [chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

I believe that it is 100,000 items total per account not per folder.
- Original Message -
From: "Michael B. Smith" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:38:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Yes, well, lots of executives don't seem to understand how to click an "X" or 
hit the delete key. But Outlook 2007 with service pack 2 will (should) perform 
as well as Outlook 2010 RTM.

And replying to Andy Leedy's comment - yes, you can collocate CAS/HT on MB 
servers in HA situations using Exchange 2010; HOWEVER - that would also require 
you to have a redundant LB in front of that server for it to be HA.


From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Maybe?

Th���s an insane number of items in one folder.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000.
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Desmond" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

c - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication.

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011.

Thanks,
Devin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman 
mailto:c.house...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Phillip Partipilo 
> [mailto:p...@psnet.com]<mailto:[mailto:p...@psnet.com]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean Rector 
> [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]<mailto:[mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely
> going to go to 2k10.
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward 
> [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]<mailto:[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new
> exchange...
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org<mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org>
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>
> 
>
> From: Leedy, Andy 
> [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]<mailto:[mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]>
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> +1
>
>
>
>  From what I've heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers.
> Less hardware. J
>
>
>
> From: Brian Desmond 
> [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]<mailto:[mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]>
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> You're going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010.
> There's no in place upgrade or anything like that.
>
>
>
> If you're just running one box then it seems logical to me that go

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Chipshead]

I believe that it is 100,000 items total per account not per folder. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael B. Smith" < michael @ owa . smithcons .com> 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" < ntsysadmin @ lyris .sunbelt-software.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:38:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 



Yes, well, lots of executives don't seem to understand how to click an "X" or 
hit the delete key. But Outlook 2007 with service pack 2 will (should) perform 
as well as Outlook 2010 RTM . 

And replying to Andy Leedy's comment - yes, you can collocate CAS /HT on MB 
servers in HA situations using Exchange 2010; HOWEVER - that would also require 
you to have a redundant LB in front of that server for it to be HA. 



From: Brian Desmond [ brian @ briandesmond .com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:52 PM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 






Maybe? 



Th���s an insane number of items in one folder. 




Thanks, 

Brian Desmond 

brian @ briandesmond .com 



c - 312.731.3132 





From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:48 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7? 




I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Desmond" < brian @ briandesmond .com> 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" < ntsysadmin @ lyris .sunbelt-software.com> 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine 

Thanks, 
Brian Desmond 
brian @ briandesmond .com 

c - 312.731.3132 


-Original Message- 
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7? 

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication. 

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011. 

Thanks, 
Devin 

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman < c.house...@gmail.com > wrote: 
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008 
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath. 
> 
> 
> 
> Carl 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Phillip Partipilo 
> 
> Parametric Solutions Inc. 
> 
> Jupiter, Florida 
> 
> (561) 747-6107 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] 
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely 
> going to go to 2k10. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sean Rector, MCSE 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new 
> exchange... 
> 
> Z 
> 
> 
> 
> Edward Ziots 
> 
> Network Engineer 
> 
> Lifespan Organization 
> 
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + 
> 
> ezi...@lifespan.org 
> 
> Phone:401-639-3505 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> +1 
> 
> 
> 
>  From what I've heard CAS /HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers. 
> Less hardware. J 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Brian Desmond [mailto: brian @ briandesmond .com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> You're going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010. 
> There's no in place upgrade or anything like that. 
> 
> 
> 
> If you're just running one box then it seems logical to me that going 
> straight to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run. 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Brian Desmond 
> 
> brian @ briandesmond .com 
> 
> 
> 
> c - 312.731.3132 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Michael B. Smith]

Yes, well, lots of executives don't seem to understand how to click an "X" or 
hit the delete key. But Outlook 2007 with service pack 2 will (should) perform 
as well as Outlook 2010 RTM.

And replying to Andy Leedy's comment - yes, you can collocate CAS/HT on MB 
servers in HA situations using Exchange 2010; HOWEVER - that would also require 
you to have a redundant LB in front of that server for it to be HA.


From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Maybe?

�s an insane number of items in one folder.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000.
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Desmond" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

c - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication.

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011.

Thanks,
Devin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman 
mailto:c.house...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Phillip Partipilo 
> [mailto:p...@psnet.com]<mailto:[mailto:p...@psnet.com]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean Rector 
> [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]<mailto:[mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely
> going to go to 2k10.
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward 
> [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]<mailto:[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new
> exchange...
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org<mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org>
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>
> 
>
> From: Leedy, Andy 
> [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]<mailto:[mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]>
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> +1
>
>
>
>  From what I've heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers.
> Less hardware. J
>
>
>
> From: Brian Desmond 
> [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]<mailto:[mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]>
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> You're going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010.
> There's no in place upgrade or anything like that.
>
>
>
> If you're just running one box then it seems logical to me that going
> straight to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Desmond
>
> br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>
>
>
>
> c - 312.731.3132
>
>
>
> From: Holstrom, Don 
> [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]<mailto:[mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I have been using Exchange 03 here at

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Brian Desmond]

Maybe?

Th�s an insane number of items in one folder.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000.
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Desmond" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

c - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication.

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011.

Thanks,
Devin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman 
mailto:c.house...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Phillip Partipilo 
> [mailto:p...@psnet.com]<mailto:[mailto:p...@psnet.com]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean Rector 
> [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]<mailto:[mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely
> going to go to 2k10.
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward 
> [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]<mailto:[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new
> exchange...
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org<mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org>
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>
> 
>
> From: Leedy, Andy 
> [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]<mailto:[mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]>
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> +1
>
>
>
>  From what I've heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers.
> Less hardware. J
>
>
>
> From: Brian Desmond 
> [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]<mailto:[mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]>
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> You're going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010.
> There's no in place upgrade or anything like that.
>
>
>
> If you're just running one box then it seems logical to me that going
> straight to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Desmond
>
> br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>
>
>
>
> c - 312.731.3132
>
>
>
> From: Holstrom, Don 
> [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]<mailto:[mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I
> have Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap.
> But I was wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is
> this a harder upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would
> use another server, faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and
> run either over Server 08, 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of
> weeks. One of my admin buddies from another firm says best to go with
> 7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a year or two. I also have
> a problem mentioned earlier with too many of the employees savi

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Chipshead]

I believe you need Outlook 2010 to support up to 100,000 mailbox items where as 
Outlook 2003 has a recommended limit of 5,000. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Desmond" < brian @ briandesmond .com> 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" < ntsysadmin @ lyris .sunbelt-software.com> 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:57:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine 

Thanks, 
Brian Desmond 
brian @ briandesmond .com 

c - 312.731.3132 


-Original Message- 
From: Devin Meade [ mailto : devin . meade @ gmail .com] 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7? 

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication. 

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS , will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011. 

Thanks, 
Devin 

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman  wrote: 
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008 
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath. 
> 
> 
> 
> Carl 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Phillip Partipilo [ mailto : pjp @ psnet .com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Phillip Partipilo 
> 
> Parametric Solutions Inc. 
> 
> Jupiter, Florida 
> 
> (561) 747-6107 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Sean Rector [ mailto :Sean.Rector@ vaopera .org] 
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely 
> going to go to 2k10. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sean Rector, MCSE 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ziots , Edward [ mailto : EZiots @Lifespan.org] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new 
> exchange... 
> 
> Z 
> 
> 
> 
> Edward Ziots 
> 
> Network Engineer 
> 
> Lifespan Organization 
> 
> MCSE , MCSA , MCP +I, ME, CCA , Security +, Network + 
> 
> eziots @lifespan.org 
> 
> Phone:401-639-3505 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Leedy , Andy [ mailto : ALeedy @ ButlerAHS .com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> +1 
> 
> 
> 
>  From what I've heard CAS /HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers. 
> Less hardware. J 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Brian Desmond [ mailto : brian @ briandesmond .com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> You're going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010. 
> There's no in place upgrade or anything like that. 
> 
> 
> 
> If you're just running one box then it seems logical to me that going 
> straight to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run. 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Brian Desmond 
> 
> brian @ briandesmond .com 
> 
> 
> 
> c - 312.731.3132 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Holstrom , Don [ mailto : DHolstrom @ nbm .org] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: Exchange 10 or 7? 
> 
> 
> 
> I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I 
> have Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. 
> But I was wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is 
> this a harder upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would 
> use another server, faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and 
> run either over Server 08, 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of 
> weeks. One of my admin buddies from another firm says best to go with 
> 7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a year or two. I also have 
> a problem mentioned earlier with too many of the employees saving too 
> much in their Inboxes , so I would give them an increase to save even more 
> ridiculous stuff. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ** 
> 
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted in this message is 
> intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and 
> may conta

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Brian Desmond]

Outlook 2007 (or 2003 or whatever) will work fine

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-
From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two servers doing 
database replication.

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server itself on new 
hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will those work with Exchange 
2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook until probably 2011.

Thanks,
Devin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman  wrote:
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008
> R2 to include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely
> going to go to 2k10.
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new
> exchange...
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>
> 
>
> From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> +1
>
>
>
>  From what I've heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers.
> Less hardware. J
>
>
>
> From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> You're going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010.
> There's no in place upgrade or anything like that.
>
>
>
> If you're just running one box then it seems logical to me that going
> straight to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Desmond
>
> br...@briandesmond.com
>
>
>
> c - 312.731.3132
>
>
>
> From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I
> have Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap.
> But I was wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is
> this a harder upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would
> use another server, faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and
> run either over Server 08, 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of
> weeks. One of my admin buddies from another firm says best to go with
> 7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a year or two. I also have
> a problem mentioned earlier with too many of the employees saving too
> much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to save even more 
> ridiculous stuff.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> **
>
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Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Devin Meade]

Probably a second server, a PowerEdge R410 or R510.  I am just reading
about Ex2010 db replication.  The main server will probably be a
PE2900II with DAS.  We use double-take for file server replication,
using DT for exchange server replication gives me shudders.  I know we
should be using shared storage, but I can't get that to fly, so I am
proposing server-to-server replication.  Upper mgt wants "some kind of
HA" but says no to a storage array with ESX etc.  Then we can compare
those numbers.  We only have two servers that are mission critical, so
using shared storage does not give us much  economy of scale.
Devin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Sherry Abercrombie  wrote:
> What do you plan to use to do database replication?
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Devin Meade  wrote:
>>
>> We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two
>> servers doing database replication.
>>
>> Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server
>> itself on new hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will
>> those work with Exchange 2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook
>> until probably 2011.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Devin
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman 
>> wrote:
>> > Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008 R2
>> > to
>> > include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Phillip Partipilo
>> >
>> > Parametric Solutions Inc.
>> >
>> > Jupiter, Florida
>> >
>> > (561) 747-6107
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
>> > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I’m definitely
>> > going
>> > to go to 2k10.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sean Rector, MCSE
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
>> > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new exchange…
>> >
>> > Z
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Edward Ziots
>> >
>> > Network Engineer
>> >
>> > Lifespan Organization
>> >
>> > MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>> >
>> > ezi...@lifespan.org
>> >
>> > Phone:401-639-3505
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  From what I’ve heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers.
>> > Less
>> > hardware. J
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > You’re going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010. There’s
>> > no
>> > in place upgrade or anything like that.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > If you’re just running one box then it seems logical to me that going
>> > straight to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Brian Desmond
>> >
>> > br...@briandesmond.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > c - 312.731.3132
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM
>>

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Martin Blackstone]

Exchange 2010…

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

What do you plan to use to do database replication?

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Devin Meade  wrote:

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two
servers doing database replication.

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server
itself on new hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will
those work with Exchange 2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook
until probably 2011.

Thanks,
Devin


On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman 
wrote:
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008 R2
to
> include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I’m definitely
going
> to go to 2k10.
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new exchange…
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>
> 
>
> From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> +1
>
>
>
>  From what I’ve heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers. Less
> hardware. J
>
>
>
> From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> You’re going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010. There’s
no
> in place upgrade or anything like that.
>
>
>
> If you’re just running one box then it seems logical to me that going
> straight to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Desmond
>
> br...@briandesmond.com
>
>
>
> c - 312.731.3132
>
>
>
> From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have
> Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was
> wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder
> upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another
server,
> faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server
08,
> 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies
> from another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go
with
> 10 in a year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many
> of the employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an
> increase to save even more ridiculous stuff.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> **
>
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> intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may
> contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review,
retransmission,
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other
> than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error,
> please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank
> you.
>
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>
> **
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Information Technology Manager
> Virginia Opera Association
>
> E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org
> Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)
> {+}
>
> Virginia Opera'

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Sherry Abercrombie]

What do you plan to use to do database replication?

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Devin Meade  wrote:

> We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two
> servers doing database replication.
>
> Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server
> itself on new hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will
> those work with Exchange 2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook
> until probably 2011.
>
> Thanks,
> Devin
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman 
> wrote:
> > Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008 R2
> to
> > include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
> >
> >
> >
> > I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Phillip Partipilo
> >
> > Parametric Solutions Inc.
> >
> > Jupiter, Florida
> >
> > (561) 747-6107
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
> > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
> >
> >
> >
> > As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I’m definitely
> going
> > to go to 2k10.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sean Rector, MCSE
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
> >
> >
> >
> > Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new exchange…
> >
> > Z
> >
> >
> >
> > Edward Ziots
> >
> > Network Engineer
> >
> > Lifespan Organization
> >
> > MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
> >
> > ezi...@lifespan.org
> >
> > Phone:401-639-3505
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]
> > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
> >
> >
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> >
> >  From what I’ve heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers. Less
> > hardware. J
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
> > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
> >
> >
> >
> > You’re going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010. There’s
> no
> > in place upgrade or anything like that.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you’re just running one box then it seems logical to me that going
> > straight to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brian Desmond
> >
> > br...@briandesmond.com
> >
> >
> >
> > c - 312.731.3132
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Exchange 10 or 7?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have
> > Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I
> was
> > wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder
> > upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another
> server,
> > faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server
> 08,
> > 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies
> > from another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go
> with
> > 10 in a year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too
> many
> > of the employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them
> an
> > increase to save even more ridiculous stuff.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > **
> >
> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted in this message is
> > intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may
> > contai

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Devin Meade]

We plan on moving from Exchange 2003 to 2010.  Possibly with two
servers doing database replication.

Question: I am budgeting Exchange Server CALS and Exchange server
itself on new hardware.  We currently have Outlook 2007 CALS, will
those work with Exchange 2010?  We don't plan on upgrading Outlook
until probably 2011.

Thanks,
Devin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Carl Houseman  wrote:
> Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008 R2 to
> include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I’m definitely going
> to go to 2k10.
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new exchange…
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>
> 
>
> From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> +1
>
>
>
>  From what I’ve heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers. Less
> hardware. J
>
>
>
> From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> You’re going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010. There’s no
> in place upgrade or anything like that.
>
>
>
> If you’re just running one box then it seems logical to me that going
> straight to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Desmond
>
> br...@briandesmond.com
>
>
>
> c - 312.731.3132
>
>
>
> From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have
> Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was
> wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder
> upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server,
> faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08,
> 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies
> from another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with
> 10 in a year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many
> of the employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an
> increase to save even more ridiculous stuff.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> **
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted in this message is
> intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may
> contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission,
> dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other
> than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error,
> please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank
> you.
>
> Butler Animal Health Supply
>
> **
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Information Technology Manager
> Virginia Opera Association
>
> E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org
> Phone:    (757) 213-4548 (direct line)
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RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Carl Houseman]

Since SBS follows the version of Windows, you might wish for SBS 2008 R2 to
include E2010.  But I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

Carl

 

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10

 

 

Phillip Partipilo

Parametric Solutions Inc.

Jupiter, Florida

(561) 747-6107

 

 

From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I’m definitely going
to go to 2k10.

 

Sean Rector, MCSE

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new exchange…

Z

 

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505

  _  

From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

+1

 

 From what I’ve heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers. Less
hardware. J

 

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

You’re going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010. There’s no
in place upgrade or anything like that.

 

If you’re just running one box then it seems logical to me that going
straight to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run. 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was
wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder
upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server,
faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08,
64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies
from another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with
10 in a year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many
of the employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an
increase to save even more ridiculous stuff.

 

 

 

 

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than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error,
please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank
you. 

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RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Phillip Partipilo]

I wonder if there is going to be a SBS 2010 to include e2k10

 

 

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From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I’m definitely going
to go to 2k10.

 

Sean Rector, MCSE

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new exchange…

Z

 

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ezi...@lifespan.org

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From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

+1

 

 From what I’ve heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers. Less
hardware. J

 

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

You’re going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010. There’s no
in place upgrade or anything like that.

 

If you’re just running one box then it seems logical to me that going
straight to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run. 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was
wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder
upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server,
faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08,
64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies
from another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with
10 in a year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many
of the employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an
increase to save even more ridiculous stuff.

 

 

 

 

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RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Sean Rector]

As my mailbox is the only one set up on our 2k7 setup, I'm definitely going to 
go to 2k10.

Sean Rector, MCSE

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new exchange...
Z

Edward Ziots
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From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

+1

 From what I've heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers. Less 
hardware. :)

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

You're going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010. There's no in 
place upgrade or anything like that.

If you're just running one box then it seems logical to me that going straight 
to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 10 or 7?

I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have 
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was 
wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder 
upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server, 
faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08, 
64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies from 
another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a 
year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many of the 
employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to 
save even more ridiculous stuff.









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RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Ziots, Edward]

Going to 2010 prolly here also, lots of good stuff in the new
exchange...

Z

 

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Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505



From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerahs.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

+1

 

 From what I've heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers.
Less hardware. :-)

 

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

You're going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010. There's
no in place upgrade or anything like that.

 

If you're just running one box then it seems logical to me that going
straight to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run. 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I
was wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a
harder upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use
another server, faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run
either over Server 08, 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks.
One of my admin buddies from another firm says best to go with 7,
impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a year or two. I also have a
problem mentioned earlier with too many of the employees saving too much
in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to save even more
ridiculous stuff.

 

 

 

 

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RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Leedy, Andy]

+1

 From what I've heard CAS/HUBS can be on the same box as MB servers. Less 
hardware. :)

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

You're going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010. There's no in 
place upgrade or anything like that.

If you're just running one box then it seems logical to me that going straight 
to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 10 or 7?

I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have 
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was 
wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder 
upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server, 
faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08, 
64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies from 
another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a 
year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many of the 
employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to 
save even more ridiculous stuff.









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RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Brian Desmond]

You're going to be doing the work twice to go from 2007 to 2010. There's no in 
place upgrade or anything like that.

If you're just running one box then it seems logical to me that going straight 
to 2010 would be A LOT easier and cheaper in the long run.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 10 or 7?

I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have 
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was 
wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder 
upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server, 
faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08, 
64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies from 
another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a 
year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many of the 
employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to 
save even more ridiculous stuff.





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RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Leedy, Andy]

I would consider Exchange 2007 like Vista and Exchange 2010 like Windows 7.

2010 will be what 2007 should have been.  2007 is ok, but honestly we have a 
bug that I submitted 6 months ago that is finally getting resolved in SP2.

2007 is much better than 2007 but I would wait for 2010 if you can. You will 
have less issues.


From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

I've already done about 10 of these migrations.

The process isn't any different. There are some slight differences in the 
cmdlets that get executed on the Exchange 2010 servers than on a Exchange 2007 
server.

And of course, the setup on Exchange 2010 is much different once you start 
talking about HA, but that's not a migration issue per se.

"Mastering Exchange Server 2010" should be out in February. If we all turn in 
our last chapters next week like we are supposed to. :-)


From: Maglinger, Paul [pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
IMHO I'd say go to  2007.  As you are a non-profit, you probably take heavy 
advantage of Google Tech Support, which if you have done any searches lately 
there's a lot more out there on 2007 than there is on 2010.  Heck, there's 
hardly any book documentation out there at all for 2010 yet.
Paul

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

I would agree that the issue is more appropriately dealt with on the Exchange 
List than here. But my quick feelings on it are, go straight to 2010. There is 
no real reason to go to 2007 first and it just adds to the works you would have 
to do and the inconvenience you would cause your users. I disagree that it is a 
pain to make the migration, I found it to be very easy to go from 2003 to 2007 
considering the change taking place. There are some gotchas to watch for like 
making sure you move your Public Folders correctly, but overall it is a matter 
of installing 1 or more new servers and moving mailboxes, not too tough really.
YMMV,
Tim

From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new hardware isn't really 
a choice - it's the only option. They call it a "migration" - when what it 
really should be called is a pain in the backside. I would hit up the Sunbelt 
Exchange list with this question as the people on that list but if it were me, 
I'd be going to 2010. Regardless of 2007 or 2010 - make sure you plan for an 
Outlook upgrade in there as well if you aren't at least up to Outlook 2007.


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don 
mailto:dholst...@nbm.org>> wrote:
I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have 
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was 
wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder 
upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server, 
faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08, 
64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies from 
another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a 
year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many of the 
employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to 
save even more ridiculous stuff.






















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RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Michael B. Smith]

I've already done about 10 of these migrations.

The process isn't any different. There are some slight differences in the 
cmdlets that get executed on the Exchange 2010 servers than on a Exchange 2007 
server.

And of course, the setup on Exchange 2010 is much different once you start 
talking about HA, but that's not a migration issue per se.

"Mastering Exchange Server 2010" should be out in February. If we all turn in 
our last chapters next week like we are supposed to. :-)


From: Maglinger, Paul [pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

IMHO I’d say go to  2007.  As you are a non-profit, you probably take heavy 
advantage of Google Tech Support, which if you have done any searches lately 
there’s a lot more out there on 2007 than there is on 2010.  Heck, there’s 
hardly any book documentation out there at all for 2010 yet.
Paul

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

I would agree that the issue is more appropriately dealt with on the Exchange 
List than here. But my quick feelings on it are, go straight to 2010. There is 
no real reason to go to 2007 first and it just adds to the works you would have 
to do and the inconvenience you would cause your users. I disagree that it is a 
pain to make the migration, I found it to be very easy to go from 2003 to 2007 
considering the change taking place. There are some gotchas to watch for like 
making sure you move your Public Folders correctly, but overall it is a matter 
of installing 1 or more new servers and moving mailboxes, not too tough really.
YMMV,
Tim

From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new hardware isn't really 
a choice - it's the only option. They call it a "migration" - when what it 
really should be called is a pain in the backside. I would hit up the Sunbelt 
Exchange list with this question as the people on that list but if it were me, 
I'd be going to 2010. Regardless of 2007 or 2010 - make sure you plan for an 
Outlook upgrade in there as well if you aren't at least up to Outlook 2007.


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don 
mailto:dholst...@nbm.org>> wrote:
I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have 
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was 
wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder 
upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server, 
faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08, 
64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies from 
another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a 
year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many of the 
employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to 
save even more ridiculous stuff.


















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Michael B. Smith]

It depends on what, if anything, they are using for high-availability.

If they are using Single Copy Clusters, then those are completely gone too.

DAG (Database Availability Group) is the only mailbox HA solution in Exchange 
2010.


From: Sean Martin [seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

I could see the omittance of continuous replication being a turn off for those 
already using it with Exchange 2007, but would it necessarily be a big deal for 
those moving from 03 straight to 2010?

- Sean



On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
mailto:saber...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I would take a look at the Exchange list as suggested, and look specifically 
for a discussion on Exchange 2007 as the subject, last post to it was 
yesterday.  Michael B. Smith makes some really interesting, and for me 
compelling reasons, about the cons of Exchange 2010, including the fact that 
continuous replication in both forms are gone.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Bryan Garmon 
mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new hardware isn't really 
a choice - it's the only option. They call it a "migration" - when what it 
really should be called is a pain in the backside. I would hit up the Sunbelt 
Exchange list with this question as the people on that list but if it were me, 
I'd be going to 2010. Regardless of 2007 or 2010 - make sure you plan for an 
Outlook upgrade in there as well if you aren't at least up to Outlook 2007.


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don 
mailto:dholst...@nbm.org>> wrote:
I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have 
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was 
wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder 
upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server, 
faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08, 
64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies from 
another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a 
year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many of the 
employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to 
save even more ridiculous stuff.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Sean Martin]

I could see the omittance of continuous replication being a turn off for
those already using it with Exchange 2007, but would it necessarily be a big
deal for those moving from 03 straight to 2010?

- Sean



On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:

> I would take a look at the Exchange list as suggested, and look
> specifically for a discussion on Exchange 2007 as the subject, last post to
> it was yesterday.  Michael B. Smith makes some really interesting, and for
> me compelling reasons, about the cons of Exchange 2010, including the fact
> that continuous replication in both forms are gone.
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Bryan Garmon wrote:
>
>> There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new hardware isn't
>> really a choice - it's the only option. They call it a "migration" - when
>> what it really should be called is a pain in the backside. I would hit up
>> the Sunbelt Exchange list with this question as the people on that list but
>> if it were me, I'd be going to 2010. Regardless of 2007 or 2010 - make sure
>> you plan for an Outlook upgrade in there as well if you aren't at least up
>> to Outlook 2007.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don wrote:
>>
>>>  I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I
>>> have Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I
>>> was wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder
>>> upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server,
>>> faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08,
>>> 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies
>>> from another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with
>>> 10 in a year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many
>>> of the employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an
>>> increase to save even more ridiculous stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
> Sent from Newark, TX, United States
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Jonathan Link]

I wouldn't say highly...maybe sarcastically.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Maglinger, Paul wrote:

>  Yep.  Otherwise known as GoogleFu, LMGTFY, etc.  Very often and highly
> recommended by members of this list…
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> google tech support?
>
>  - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Maglinger, Paul 
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues 
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:26 AM
>
> *Subject:* RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> IMHO I’d say go to  2007.  As you are a non-profit, you probably take heavy
> advantage of Google Tech Support, which if you have done any searches lately
> there’s a lot more out there on 2007 than there is on 2010.  Heck, there’s
> hardly any book documentation out there at all for 2010 yet.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:04 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> I would agree that the issue is more appropriately dealt with on the
> Exchange List than here. But my quick feelings on it are, go straight to
> 2010. There is no real reason to go to 2007 first and it just adds to the
> works you would have to do and the inconvenience you would cause your users.
> I disagree that it is a pain to make the migration, I found it to be very
> easy to go from 2003 to 2007 considering the change taking place. There are
> some gotchas to watch for like making sure you move your Public Folders
> correctly, but overall it is a matter of installing 1 or more new servers
> and moving mailboxes, not too tough really.
>
> YMMV,
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* Bryan Garmon [mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:55 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Exchange 10 or 7?
>
>
>
> There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new hardware isn't
> really a choice - it's the only option. They call it a "migration" - when
> what it really should be called is a pain in the backside. I would hit up
> the Sunbelt Exchange list with this question as the people on that list but
> if it were me, I'd be going to 2010. Regardless of 2007 or 2010 - make sure
> you plan for an Outlook upgrade in there as well if you aren't at least up
> to Outlook 2007.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don  wrote:
>
> I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have
> Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was
> wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder
> upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server,
> faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08,
> 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies
> from another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with
> 10 in a year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many
> of the employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an
> increase to save even more ridiculous stuff.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Maglinger, Paul]

Yep.  Otherwise known as GoogleFu, LMGTFY, etc.  Very often and highly
recommended by members of this list...

 

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

google tech support?

- Original Message - 

From: Maglinger, Paul <mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com>  

To: NT System Admin Issues
<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>  

Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:26 AM

Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

IMHO I'd say go to  2007.  As you are a non-profit, you probably
take heavy advantage of Google Tech Support, which if you have done any
searches lately there's a lot more out there on 2007 than there is on
2010.  Heck, there's hardly any book documentation out there at all for
2010 yet.  

Paul

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

I would agree that the issue is more appropriately dealt with on
the Exchange List than here. But my quick feelings on it are, go
straight to 2010. There is no real reason to go to 2007 first and it
just adds to the works you would have to do and the inconvenience you
would cause your users. I disagree that it is a pain to make the
migration, I found it to be very easy to go from 2003 to 2007
considering the change taking place. There are some gotchas to watch for
like making sure you move your Public Folders correctly, but overall it
is a matter of installing 1 or more new servers and moving mailboxes,
not too tough really.

YMMV,

Tim

 

From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new
hardware isn't really a choice - it's the only option. They call it a
"migration" - when what it really should be called is a pain in the
backside. I would hit up the Sunbelt Exchange list with this question as
the people on that list but if it were me, I'd be going to 2010.
Regardless of 2007 or 2010 - make sure you plan for an Outlook upgrade
in there as well if you aren't at least up to Outlook 2007. 


 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don
 wrote:

I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few
years. I have Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are
cheap. But I was wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10.
Is this a harder upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I
would use another server, faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine
and run either over Server 08, 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple
of weeks. One of my admin buddies from another firm says best to go with
7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a year or two. I also have a
problem mentioned earlier with too many of the employees saving too much
in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to save even more
ridiculous stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:32 AM, James Kerr  wrote:
> google tech support?

1. Go to Google
2. Type in your question
3. Hit "Search"

  ;-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[James Kerr]

I just realized what you meant. Yeah I use GTS all the time as well.
  - Original Message - 
  From: James Kerr 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?


  google tech support?
- Original Message - 
From: Maglinger, Paul 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?


IMHO I'd say go to  2007.  As you are a non-profit, you probably take heavy 
advantage of Google Tech Support, which if you have done any searches lately 
there's a lot more out there on 2007 than there is on 2010.  Heck, there's 
hardly any book documentation out there at all for 2010 yet.  

Paul

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
    Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

I would agree that the issue is more appropriately dealt with on the 
Exchange List than here. But my quick feelings on it are, go straight to 2010. 
There is no real reason to go to 2007 first and it just adds to the works you 
would have to do and the inconvenience you would cause your users. I disagree 
that it is a pain to make the migration, I found it to be very easy to go from 
2003 to 2007 considering the change taking place. There are some gotchas to 
watch for like making sure you move your Public Folders correctly, but overall 
it is a matter of installing 1 or more new servers and moving mailboxes, not 
too tough really.

YMMV,

Tim

 

From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
    Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new hardware isn't 
really a choice - it's the only option. They call it a "migration" - when what 
it really should be called is a pain in the backside. I would hit up the 
Sunbelt Exchange list with this question as the people on that list but if it 
were me, I'd be going to 2010. Regardless of 2007 or 2010 - make sure you plan 
for an Outlook upgrade in there as well if you aren't at least up to Outlook 
2007. 


 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don  wrote:

I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have 
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was 
wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder 
upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server, 
faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08, 
64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies from 
another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a 
year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many of the 
employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to 
save even more ridiculous stuff.

 

  

 

  

 


 



 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[James Kerr]

google tech support?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maglinger, Paul 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:26 AM
  Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?


  IMHO I'd say go to  2007.  As you are a non-profit, you probably take heavy 
advantage of Google Tech Support, which if you have done any searches lately 
there's a lot more out there on 2007 than there is on 2010.  Heck, there's 
hardly any book documentation out there at all for 2010 yet.  

  Paul

   

  From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:04 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

   

  I would agree that the issue is more appropriately dealt with on the Exchange 
List than here. But my quick feelings on it are, go straight to 2010. There is 
no real reason to go to 2007 first and it just adds to the works you would have 
to do and the inconvenience you would cause your users. I disagree that it is a 
pain to make the migration, I found it to be very easy to go from 2003 to 2007 
considering the change taking place. There are some gotchas to watch for like 
making sure you move your Public Folders correctly, but overall it is a matter 
of installing 1 or more new servers and moving mailboxes, not too tough really.

  YMMV,

  Tim

   

  From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:55 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

   

  There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new hardware isn't 
really a choice - it's the only option. They call it a "migration" - when what 
it really should be called is a pain in the backside. I would hit up the 
Sunbelt Exchange list with this question as the people on that list but if it 
were me, I'd be going to 2010. Regardless of 2007 or 2010 - make sure you plan 
for an Outlook upgrade in there as well if you aren't at least up to Outlook 
2007. 


   

  On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don  wrote:

  I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have 
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was 
wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder 
upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server, 
faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08, 
64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies from 
another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a 
year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many of the 
employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to 
save even more ridiculous stuff.

   

  

   

  

 


 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Maglinger, Paul]

IMHO I'd say go to  2007.  As you are a non-profit, you probably take
heavy advantage of Google Tech Support, which if you have done any
searches lately there's a lot more out there on 2007 than there is on
2010.  Heck, there's hardly any book documentation out there at all for
2010 yet.  

Paul

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

I would agree that the issue is more appropriately dealt with on the
Exchange List than here. But my quick feelings on it are, go straight to
2010. There is no real reason to go to 2007 first and it just adds to
the works you would have to do and the inconvenience you would cause
your users. I disagree that it is a pain to make the migration, I found
it to be very easy to go from 2003 to 2007 considering the change taking
place. There are some gotchas to watch for like making sure you move
your Public Folders correctly, but overall it is a matter of installing
1 or more new servers and moving mailboxes, not too tough really.

YMMV,

Tim

 

From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

 

There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new hardware isn't
really a choice - it's the only option. They call it a "migration" -
when what it really should be called is a pain in the backside. I would
hit up the Sunbelt Exchange list with this question as the people on
that list but if it were me, I'd be going to 2010. Regardless of 2007 or
2010 - make sure you plan for an Outlook upgrade in there as well if you
aren't at least up to Outlook 2007. 


 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don 
wrote:

I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I
was wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a
harder upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use
another server, faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run
either over Server 08, 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks.
One of my admin buddies from another firm says best to go with 7,
impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a year or two. I also have a
problem mentioned earlier with too many of the employees saving too much
in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to save even more
ridiculous stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Sam Cayze]

"Regardless of 2007 or 2010 - make sure you plan for an Outlook upgrade
in there as well if you aren't at least up to Outlook 2007."
 
And note, with Exch 2010, the CALs no longer include a copy of Outlook.
(Because they made OWA so awesome).



From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?


There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new hardware isn't
really a choice - it's the only option. They call it a "migration" -
when what it really should be called is a pain in the backside. I would
hit up the Sunbelt Exchange list with this question as the people on
that list but if it were me, I'd be going to 2010. Regardless of 2007 or
2010 - make sure you plan for an Outlook upgrade in there as well if you
aren't at least up to Outlook 2007. 

 
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don 
wrote:


I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few
years. I have Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are
cheap. But I was wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10.
Is this a harder upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I
would use another server, faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine
and run either over Server 08, 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple
of weeks. One of my admin buddies from another firm says best to go with
7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a year or two. I also have a
problem mentioned earlier with too many of the employees saving too much
in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to save even more
ridiculous stuff.

 


 






 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Steve Ens]

I think that you could always use Double Take or XOsoft or something to
address some of the replication issues. I am going from 03 to 10 once I have
the time and energy to tackle it. Why don't you do it first Don, and then
write up some good instructions?  ;-)

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:

> I would take a look at the Exchange list as suggested, and look
> specifically for a discussion on Exchange 2007 as the subject, last post to
> it was yesterday.  Michael B. Smith makes some really interesting, and for
> me compelling reasons, about the cons of Exchange 2010, including the fact
> that continuous replication in both forms are gone.
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Bryan Garmon wrote:
>
>> There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new hardware isn't
>> really a choice - it's the only option. They call it a "migration" - when
>> what it really should be called is a pain in the backside. I would hit up
>> the Sunbelt Exchange list with this question as the people on that list but
>> if it were me, I'd be going to 2010. Regardless of 2007 or 2010 - make sure
>> you plan for an Outlook upgrade in there as well if you aren't at least up
>> to Outlook 2007.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don wrote:
>>
>>>  I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I
>>> have Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I
>>> was wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder
>>> upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server,
>>> faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08,
>>> 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies
>>> from another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with
>>> 10 in a year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many
>>> of the employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an
>>> increase to save even more ridiculous stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
> Sent from Newark, TX, United States
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I would agree that the issue is more appropriately dealt with on the Exchange 
List than here. But my quick feelings on it are, go straight to 2010. There is 
no real reason to go to 2007 first and it just adds to the works you would have 
to do and the inconvenience you would cause your users. I disagree that it is a 
pain to make the migration, I found it to be very easy to go from 2003 to 2007 
considering the change taking place. There are some gotchas to watch for like 
making sure you move your Public Folders correctly, but overall it is a matter 
of installing 1 or more new servers and moving mailboxes, not too tough really.
YMMV,
Tim

From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new hardware isn't really 
a choice - it's the only option. They call it a "migration" - when what it 
really should be called is a pain in the backside. I would hit up the Sunbelt 
Exchange list with this question as the people on that list but if it were me, 
I'd be going to 2010. Regardless of 2007 or 2010 - make sure you plan for an 
Outlook upgrade in there as well if you aren't at least up to Outlook 2007.


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don 
mailto:dholst...@nbm.org>> wrote:
I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have 
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was 
wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder 
upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server, 
faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08, 
64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies from 
another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a 
year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many of the 
employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to 
save even more ridiculous stuff.










~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Sherry Abercrombie]

I would take a look at the Exchange list as suggested, and look specifically
for a discussion on Exchange 2007 as the subject, last post to it was
yesterday.  Michael B. Smith makes some really interesting, and for me
compelling reasons, about the cons of Exchange 2010, including the fact that
continuous replication in both forms are gone.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Bryan Garmon wrote:

> There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new hardware isn't
> really a choice - it's the only option. They call it a "migration" - when
> what it really should be called is a pain in the backside. I would hit up
> the Sunbelt Exchange list with this question as the people on that list but
> if it were me, I'd be going to 2010. Regardless of 2007 or 2010 - make sure
> you plan for an Outlook upgrade in there as well if you aren't at least up
> to Outlook 2007.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don  wrote:
>
>>  I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have
>> Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was
>> wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder
>> upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server,
>> faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08,
>> 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies
>> from another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with
>> 10 in a year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many
>> of the employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an
>> increase to save even more ridiculous stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Newark, TX, United States

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Exchange 10 or 7?

[Bryan Garmon]

There is no upgrade for either 2007 or 2010 so using new hardware isn't
really a choice - it's the only option. They call it a "migration" - when
what it really should be called is a pain in the backside. I would hit up
the Sunbelt Exchange list with this question as the people on that list but
if it were me, I'd be going to 2010. Regardless of 2007 or 2010 - make sure
you plan for an Outlook upgrade in there as well if you aren't at least up
to Outlook 2007.


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Holstrom, Don  wrote:

>  I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have
> Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I was
> wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a harder
> upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use another server,
> faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run either over Server 08,
> 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks. One of my admin buddies
> from another firm says best to go with 7, impress everyone, and then go with
> 10 in a year or two. I also have a problem mentioned earlier with too many
> of the employees saving too much in their Inboxes, so I would give them an
> increase to save even more ridiculous stuff.
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Exchange 10 or 7?

[Holstrom, Don]

I have been using Exchange 03 here at the Museum for a few years. I have
Exchange 07 software, we are a non-profit so licenses are cheap. But I
was wondering if I should skip over 07 and go right to 10. Is this a
harder upgrade? Impossible? Anyone done it? Either way, I would use
another server, faster with 6 times the RAM of our 03 machine and run
either over Server 08, 64-bit. And then transfer over a couple of weeks.
One of my admin buddies from another firm says best to go with 7,
impress everyone, and then go with 10 in a year or two. I also have a
problem mentioned earlier with too many of the employees saving too much
in their Inboxes, so I would give them an increase to save even more
ridiculous stuff.


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~