Extending Wireless Network
Hi All, We need to extend a wireless LAN to the guest houses in a campus environment. The last wired point is fiber to one side of the hostels. From the switch where the fiber is terminated, an ethernet cable has been extended to an Access point which covers a only a limited number of rooms partly because the room partitioning is solid walls. We need to extend the Wireless LAN to another block of rooms which is not feasible to run ethernet cable from where the fiber terminates because of distance. We use Linksys APs. If we are to explore bridging, any idea of a product that will work well across stone/solid wall partitions or if an outdoor AP device, which brand/model has good coverage and also through the stone partitions? Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Extending Wireless Network
Consumer or enterprise-grade linksys? The WRT54G series routers from linksys have a widely available custom firmware that's excellent for using WDS-type bridging. Jack Kramer Computer Systems Specialist University Relations, Michigan State University 517-884-1231 From: Lumumba, Juma (ILRI-ICRAF) j.lumu...@cgiar.org Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:39:32 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Extending Wireless Network Hi All, We need to extend a wireless LAN to the guest houses in a campus environment. The last wired point is fiber to one side of the hostels. From the switch where the fiber is terminated, an ethernet cable has been extended to an Access point which covers a only a limited number of rooms partly because the room partitioning is solid walls. We need to extend the Wireless LAN to another block of rooms which is not feasible to run ethernet cable from where the fiber terminates because of distance. We use Linksys APs. If we are to explore bridging, any idea of a product that will work well across stone/solid wall partitions or if an outdoor AP device, which brand/model has good coverage and also through the stone partitions? Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Extending Wireless Network
I don't believe wireless is going to work through Stone well. Especially if there is a significant distance to go. It will of course depend on the type of stone, thickness, distance between AP and laptops. All of the AP's I have used drastically reduce their distance when going through solid walls. -Original Message- From: Lumumba, Juma (ILRI-ICRAF) [mailto:j.lumu...@cgiar.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Extending Wireless Network Hi All, We need to extend a wireless LAN to the guest houses in a campus environment. The last wired point is fiber to one side of the hostels. From the switch where the fiber is terminated, an ethernet cable has been extended to an Access point which covers a only a limited number of rooms partly because the room partitioning is solid walls. We need to extend the Wireless LAN to another block of rooms which is not feasible to run ethernet cable from where the fiber terminates because of distance. We use Linksys APs. If we are to explore bridging, any idea of a product that will work well across stone/solid wall partitions or if an outdoor AP device, which brand/model has good coverage and also through the stone partitions? Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Extending Wireless Network
Not to mention the probable existence of steel reinforcement bars or mesh in the wall which will kill most wireless signals. My server room falls into this category - no cell phone reception, no wireless. Checking cell phone reception in the target area will give you some idea as to how bad the blockage is in that particular area. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Extending Wireless Network I don't believe wireless is going to work through Stone well. Especially if there is a significant distance to go. It will of course depend on the type of stone, thickness, distance between AP and laptops. All of the AP's I have used drastically reduce their distance when going through solid walls. -Original Message- From: Lumumba, Juma (ILRI-ICRAF) [mailto:j.lumu...@cgiar.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Extending Wireless Network Hi All, We need to extend a wireless LAN to the guest houses in a campus environment. The last wired point is fiber to one side of the hostels. From the switch where the fiber is terminated, an ethernet cable has been extended to an Access point which covers a only a limited number of rooms partly because the room partitioning is solid walls. We need to extend the Wireless LAN to another block of rooms which is not feasible to run ethernet cable from where the fiber terminates because of distance. We use Linksys APs. If we are to explore bridging, any idea of a product that will work well across stone/solid wall partitions or if an outdoor AP device, which brand/model has good coverage and also through the stone partitions? Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Extending Wireless Network
there's always the possibility of having APs on opposite sides of obsticles like this, hard-wired to eachother. -- ME2 On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:10 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Not to mention the probable existence of steel reinforcement bars or mesh in the wall which will kill most wireless signals. My server room falls into this category - no cell phone reception, no wireless. Checking cell phone reception in the target area will give you some idea as to how bad the blockage is in that particular area. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Extending Wireless Network I don't believe wireless is going to work through Stone well. Especially if there is a significant distance to go. It will of course depend on the type of stone, thickness, distance between AP and laptops. All of the AP's I have used drastically reduce their distance when going through solid walls. -Original Message- From: Lumumba, Juma (ILRI-ICRAF) [mailto:j.lumu...@cgiar.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Extending Wireless Network Hi All, We need to extend a wireless LAN to the guest houses in a campus environment. The last wired point is fiber to one side of the hostels. From the switch where the fiber is terminated, an ethernet cable has been extended to an Access point which covers a only a limited number of rooms partly because the room partitioning is solid walls. We need to extend the Wireless LAN to another block of rooms which is not feasible to run ethernet cable from where the fiber terminates because of distance. We use Linksys APs. If we are to explore bridging, any idea of a product that will work well across stone/solid wall partitions or if an outdoor AP device, which brand/model has good coverage and also through the stone partitions? Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Extending Wireless Network
-Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Extending Wireless Network there's always the possibility of having APs on opposite sides of obsticles like this, hard-wired to eachother. Like Shook and TVK? Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Extending Wireless Network
In the OP case no wiring is feasible, in my case my Datacenter is an 8 X 8 dungeon with a landline phone. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Extending Wireless Network there's always the possibility of having APs on opposite sides of obsticles like this, hard-wired to eachother. -- ME2 On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:10 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Not to mention the probable existence of steel reinforcement bars or mesh in the wall which will kill most wireless signals. My server room falls into this category - no cell phone reception, no wireless. Checking cell phone reception in the target area will give you some idea as to how bad the blockage is in that particular area. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Extending Wireless Network I don't believe wireless is going to work through Stone well. Especially if there is a significant distance to go. It will of course depend on the type of stone, thickness, distance between AP and laptops. All of the AP's I have used drastically reduce their distance when going through solid walls. -Original Message- From: Lumumba, Juma (ILRI-ICRAF) [mailto:j.lumu...@cgiar.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Extending Wireless Network Hi All, We need to extend a wireless LAN to the guest houses in a campus environment. The last wired point is fiber to one side of the hostels. From the switch where the fiber is terminated, an ethernet cable has been extended to an Access point which covers a only a limited number of rooms partly because the room partitioning is solid walls. We need to extend the Wireless LAN to another block of rooms which is not feasible to run ethernet cable from where the fiber terminates because of distance. We use Linksys APs. If we are to explore bridging, any idea of a product that will work well across stone/solid wall partitions or if an outdoor AP device, which brand/model has good coverage and also through the stone partitions? Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless
RE: Extending Wireless Network
Dude...you're sooo jealous :) Shook -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Extending Wireless Network -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Extending Wireless Network there's always the possibility of having APs on opposite sides of obsticles like this, hard-wired to eachother. Like Shook and TVK? Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Extending Wireless Network
Probably more like soft wired in Shooks case but I'll defer to TVK for the definitive answer. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Extending Wireless Network -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Extending Wireless Network there's always the possibility of having APs on opposite sides of obsticles like this, hard-wired to eachother. Like Shook and TVK? Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Extending Wireless Network
Well...at least I don't feel inadequate when I hold a RJ-45 connector. Shook -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Extending Wireless Network Probably more like soft wired in Shooks case but I'll defer to TVK for the definitive answer. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Extending Wireless Network -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Extending Wireless Network there's always the possibility of having APs on opposite sides of obsticles like this, hard-wired to eachother. Like Shook and TVK? Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Extending Wireless Network
Because your cable fits right in the hole John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Extending Wireless Network Well...at least I don't feel inadequate when I hold a RJ-45 connector. Shook -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Extending Wireless Network Probably more like soft wired in Shooks case but I'll defer to TVK for the definitive answer. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Extending Wireless Network -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Extending Wireless Network there's always the possibility of having APs on opposite sides of obsticles like this, hard-wired to eachother. Like Shook and TVK? Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Extending Wireless Network
With all the obstacles, you may want to consider powerline networking with multiple APs. It's not cheap at $50 per adapter plus the cost of an AP, but it will let you avoid the issues of running cables since there is already powerlines. Works great for me. HTH! On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Lumumba, Juma (ILRI-ICRAF) j.lumu...@cgiar.org wrote: Hi All, We need to extend a wireless LAN to the guest houses in a campus environment. The last wired point is fiber to one side of the hostels. From the switch where the fiber is terminated, an ethernet cable has been extended to an Access point which covers a only a limited number of rooms partly because the room partitioning is solid walls. We need to extend the Wireless LAN to another block of rooms which is not feasible to run ethernet cable from where the fiber terminates because of distance. We use Linksys APs. If we are to explore bridging, any idea of a product that will work well across stone/solid wall partitions or if an outdoor AP device, which brand/model has good coverage and also through the stone partitions? Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Extending Wireless Network
I don't think thats exactly clear. The OP said some hard-wiring was not feasible because of distance, and while there was a mention of solid walls, there was no remark about not being able to drill through. Even if not able o drill, the distance may be short enough to hard-wire around the obstacle for that part of the coverage area. -- ME2 On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:23 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: In the OP case no wiring is feasible, ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
