Re: $RECYCLE.BIN Folder

2010-05-11 Thread Joseph Heaton 
Just had a user empty his recycle bin on our major file server, and he had over 
600GB in it... and they wonder why the drive is getting low on free space.

>>> Ben Scott  5/11/2010 10:56 AM >>>
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Joe Heaton  wrote:
> Does this folder keep a copy of all items deleted?

  Yes, for some values of "deleted".

  More accurately, it contains the files "dragged to the Recycle Bin"
in Windows Explorer, or otherwise moved there through equivalent menu
commands, keyboard shortcuts, API calls, etc.  Not all "delete"
commands use the recycle bin, though.

> I have multiple "Recycle Bins" under this folder

  Every user gets their own "Recycle Bin" folder, for security
reasons.  Otherwise, everybody would be able to go through everybody
else's trash, so to speak.

> Is this real size ...

  The files in the Recycle Bin do use disk space.

> ... that I could clear up if I choose to empty the recycle bin ...

  Emptying a Recycle Bin which contains files will free up disk space.

  I'm not sure how to "empty the Recycle Bin for all users", so to speak.

-- Ben

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Re: $RECYCLE.BIN folder

2010-05-11 Thread Joseph Heaton 
Disregard this message... already answered.

>>> "Joseph Heaton"  5/11/2010 10:25 AM >>>
Server 2008 x64

Does this folder keep a copy of all items deleted?  I have multiple "Recycle 
Bins" under this folder, all with different sizes if I right-click and go to 
Properties, some of these having Gigs of size.  Is this real size, that I could 
clear up if I choose to empty the recycle bin, or are they phantom files?

TIA,

Joe Heaton


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Re: $RECYCLE.BIN Folder

2010-05-11 Thread Steven Peck 
We set our server Recycle Bins to 0.  If you delete it's gone.

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Charlie Kaiser
 wrote:
> When I run into this (not uncommon) I just hard delete the folders and they
> recreate...
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:26 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: $RECYCLE.BIN Folder
>>
>> >  I'm not sure how to "empty the Recycle Bin for all users",
>> so to speak.
>>
>> I believe you can just delete everything in the folder and
>> when the users drag or put something else in their recycle
>> bin, it will recreate their recycler folder...
>>
>> Don K
>
>
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RE: $RECYCLE.BIN Folder

2010-05-11 Thread Charlie Kaiser 
When I run into this (not uncommon) I just hard delete the folders and they
recreate...

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***  

> -Original Message-
> From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: $RECYCLE.BIN Folder
> 
> >  I'm not sure how to "empty the Recycle Bin for all users", 
> so to speak.
> 
> I believe you can just delete everything in the folder and 
> when the users drag or put something else in their recycle 
> bin, it will recreate their recycler folder...
> 
> Don K


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: $RECYCLE.BIN Folder

2010-05-11 Thread Joe Heaton 
Nope.  Regular users don't have access at all.
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Re: $RECYCLE.BIN Folder

2010-05-11 Thread James Rankin 
Not regular users then, I was wondering.

On 11 May 2010 19:24, Joe Heaton  wrote:

> RDP into the box, to do file operations.
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Re: $RECYCLE.BIN Folder

2010-05-11 Thread Don Kuhlman 
>  I'm not sure how to "empty the Recycle Bin for all users", so to speak.

I believe you can just delete everything in the folder and when the users drag 
or put something else in their recycle bin, it will recreate their recycler 
folder...

Don K



- Original Message 
From: Ben Scott 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 12:56:17 PM
Subject: Re: $RECYCLE.BIN Folder

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Joe Heaton  wrote:
> Does this folder keep a copy of all items deleted?

  Yes, for some values of "deleted".

  More accurately, it contains the files "dragged to the Recycle Bin"
in Windows Explorer, or otherwise moved there through equivalent menu
commands, keyboard shortcuts, API calls, etc.  Not all "delete"
commands use the recycle bin, though.

> I have multiple "Recycle Bins" under this folder

  Every user gets their own "Recycle Bin" folder, for security
reasons.  Otherwise, everybody would be able to go through everybody
else's trash, so to speak.

> Is this real size ...

  The files in the Recycle Bin do use disk space.

> ... that I could clear up if I choose to empty the recycle bin ...

  Emptying a Recycle Bin which contains files will free up disk space.

  I'm not sure how to "empty the Recycle Bin for all users", so to speak.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~



  


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Re: $RECYCLE.BIN Folder

2010-05-11 Thread Joe Heaton 
RDP into the box, to do file operations.
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Re: $RECYCLE.BIN Folder

2010-05-11 Thread James Rankin 
When users delete stuff from network locations isn't it deleted immediately?
Or has he logged on to the file server locally to delete stuff? Or is he
using a roaming profile stored on the file server?

On 11 May 2010 19:15, Joe Heaton  wrote:

> I just had a user empty his recycle bin on our major file server.  He had
> over 600GB in it...  and they wonder why the free space is running low.
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>



-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: $RECYCLE.BIN Folder

2010-05-11 Thread Joe Heaton 
I just had a user empty his recycle bin on our major file server.  He had over 
600GB in it...  and they wonder why the free space is running low.
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: $RECYCLE.BIN Folder

2010-05-11 Thread Ben Scott 
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Joe Heaton  wrote:
> Does this folder keep a copy of all items deleted?

  Yes, for some values of "deleted".

  More accurately, it contains the files "dragged to the Recycle Bin"
in Windows Explorer, or otherwise moved there through equivalent menu
commands, keyboard shortcuts, API calls, etc.  Not all "delete"
commands use the recycle bin, though.

> I have multiple "Recycle Bins" under this folder

  Every user gets their own "Recycle Bin" folder, for security
reasons.  Otherwise, everybody would be able to go through everybody
else's trash, so to speak.

> Is this real size ...

  The files in the Recycle Bin do use disk space.

> ... that I could clear up if I choose to empty the recycle bin ...

  Emptying a Recycle Bin which contains files will free up disk space.

  I'm not sure how to "empty the Recycle Bin for all users", so to speak.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~