RE: ASA power supply
Ok. I've found more vendors most of them are under $200, even for a new one. At this point, I'm wondering if any of you can recommend a vendor. Most of the online vendors showing up in Froogle are unknown to me, and I'd like a recommendation from a fellow IT pro if anyone cares to give one. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: ASA power supply The power supply in our ASA died overnight. Management doesn't believe in SmartNet, so I'm having to replace the power supply myself. Having verified that the power supply is, in fact dead, I'm looking for a replacement. The ONLY big reseller I have been able to verify that sells these is CDW. I'd like to have some options. I did use Froogle, but most of the folks there are noname or ebay vendors... That's not necessarily something Id want to buy off ebay. :-) Wondering if any of you have a preferred vendor for something like this? I'll continue searching the web while waiting for a response. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ASA power supply
Here's a rubric for all your future buying decisions. Take cost of a good quality/known vendor that you have a relationship with. Subtract the lowest price you can find buy typically googling around. If that result is less than the cost of downtime, great, buy from the preferred vendor. If that amount is greater than the cost of downtime, buy from the preferred vendor. In other words, I'm of the mind that having a good relationship with a quality vendor is worth more than trying to squeeze pennies and deal with unknowns. I have good relationship with my Dell and CDW reps. I typically review those options first, give alternatives a cursory glance, and then proceed with Dell and CDW. There are times I've been able to indicate to my rep I can get a better deal elsewhere, and I can wring a concession out of them. You can't do that unless you build a relationship. In the long run, the business runs more efficiently, which equals more $$$. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: The power supply in our ASA died overnight. Management doesn't believe in SmartNet, so I'm having to replace the power supply myself. Having verified that the power supply is, in fact dead, I'm looking for a replacement. The ONLY big reseller I have been able to verify that sells these is CDW. I'd like to have some options. I did use Froogle, but most of the folks there are noname or ebay vendors... That's not necessarily something Id want to buy off ebay. :-) Wondering if any of you have a preferred vendor for something like this? I'll continue searching the web while waiting for a response. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ASA power supply
Well, CDW has always been a reliable vendor for us. If their price is close to the small businesses, go that route. Or, just call a few of the vendors, or look at the Better Business Bureau for negatives, etc. Sometimes, you just have to go with who can get it there the fastest, if this ASA is causing a system outage. And maybe this can be a lesson learned, to make a list of vital spare parts that should be kept on hand... John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 4/28/2011 7:44 AM Ok. I've found more vendors most of them are under $200, even for a new one. At this point, I'm wondering if any of you can recommend a vendor. Most of the online vendors showing up in Froogle are unknown to me, and I'd like a recommendation from a fellow IT pro if anyone cares to give one. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: ASA power supply The power supply in our ASA died overnight. Management doesn't believe in SmartNet, so I'm having to replace the power supply myself. Having verified that the power supply is, in fact dead, I'm looking for a replacement. The ONLY big reseller I have been able to verify that sells these is CDW. I'd like to have some options. I did use Froogle, but most of the folks there are noname or ebay vendors... That's not necessarily something Id want to buy off ebay. :-) Wondering if any of you have a preferred vendor for something like this? I'll continue searching the web while waiting for a response. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ASA power supply
Yeah... I thought about possibly having a spare power supply on-hand, but if it's only going to go out once a year (so far, that's about what it's been) then spending an extra $200+ to keep one sitting on the shelf is probably not going to go over well with management (all about not spending any more than we *have* to right now.) Especially when I can just swap out the dead ASA for the old, but working Pix. :-) -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ASA power supply Well, CDW has always been a reliable vendor for us. If their price is close to the small businesses, go that route. Or, just call a few of the vendors, or look at the Better Business Bureau for negatives, etc. Sometimes, you just have to go with who can get it there the fastest, if this ASA is causing a system outage. And maybe this can be a lesson learned, to make a list of vital spare parts that should be kept on hand... John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 4/28/2011 7:44 AM Ok. I've found more vendors most of them are under $200, even for a new one. At this point, I'm wondering if any of you can recommend a vendor. Most of the online vendors showing up in Froogle are unknown to me, and I'd like a recommendation from a fellow IT pro if anyone cares to give one. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: ASA power supply The power supply in our ASA died overnight. Management doesn't believe in SmartNet, so I'm having to replace the power supply myself. Having verified that the power supply is, in fact dead, I'm looking for a replacement. The ONLY big reseller I have been able to verify that sells these is CDW. I'd like to have some options. I did use Froogle, but most of the folks there are noname or ebay vendors... That's not necessarily something Id want to buy off ebay. :-) Wondering if any of you have a preferred vendor for something like this? I'll continue searching the web while waiting for a response. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ASA power supply
Thanks, Jonathan. I do have a pretty good relationship with my Dell rep, and he has confirmed they can sell me the part. I've also found that our AS/400 maintenance guys can provide it too, for about $50 more than I can get it from at a Froogle vendor with a large number of positive ratings. I will wait for my Dell rep to get back with me on a price and then see if I can't talk to Dell and the AS/400 maintenance guys and see if I can't get a small concession out of 'em. :-) Very good advice. I appreciate it and will definitely keep it *all* in mind in the future. That's one reason I typically get my Cisco stuff from the guys who wrote and maintain our ERP/CRM software -- not to mention that if the network goes down, our remote office won't be able to do anything. Hmm... that might be good enough reason to convince management to let me keep a spare power supply on the shelf From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply Here's a rubric for all your future buying decisions. Take cost of a good quality/known vendor that you have a relationship with. Subtract the lowest price you can find buy typically googling around. If that result is less than the cost of downtime, great, buy from the preferred vendor. If that amount is greater than the cost of downtime, buy from the preferred vendor. In other words, I'm of the mind that having a good relationship with a quality vendor is worth more than trying to squeeze pennies and deal with unknowns. I have good relationship with my Dell and CDW reps. I typically review those options first, give alternatives a cursory glance, and then proceed with Dell and CDW. There are times I've been able to indicate to my rep I can get a better deal elsewhere, and I can wring a concession out of them. You can't do that unless you build a relationship. In the long run, the business runs more efficiently, which equals more $$$. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: The power supply in our ASA died overnight. Management doesn't believe in SmartNet, so I'm having to replace the power supply myself. Having verified that the power supply is, in fact dead, I'm looking for a replacement. The ONLY big reseller I have been able to verify that sells these is CDW. I'd like to have some options. I did use Froogle, but most of the folks there are noname or ebay vendors... That's not necessarily something Id want to buy off ebay. :-) Wondering if any of you have a preferred vendor for something like this? I'll continue searching the web while waiting for a response. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ASA power supply
As long as the Pix has any configuration changes that were made since you took it offline... I understand the spending limits, thing. And I do agree with Jonathan, that having a good relationship with a reliable vendor is very important, especially in the private sector where you're not required to jump through a bunch of hoops to buy something. Here, I have to go out and get 3 quotes no matter if I'm buying a $50,000 item, or a $15.00 item. John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 4/28/2011 7:50 AM Yeah... I thought about possibly having a spare power supply on-hand, but if it's only going to go out once a year (so far, that's about what it's been) then spending an extra $200+ to keep one sitting on the shelf is probably not going to go over well with management (all about not spending any more than we *have* to right now.) Especially when I can just swap out the dead ASA for the old, but working Pix. :-) -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ASA power supply Well, CDW has always been a reliable vendor for us. If their price is close to the small businesses, go that route. Or, just call a few of the vendors, or look at the Better Business Bureau for negatives, etc. Sometimes, you just have to go with who can get it there the fastest, if this ASA is causing a system outage. And maybe this can be a lesson learned, to make a list of vital spare parts that should be kept on hand... John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 4/28/2011 7:44 AM Ok. I've found more vendors most of them are under $200, even for a new one. At this point, I'm wondering if any of you can recommend a vendor. Most of the online vendors showing up in Froogle are unknown to me, and I'd like a recommendation from a fellow IT pro if anyone cares to give one. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: ASA power supply The power supply in our ASA died overnight. Management doesn't believe in SmartNet, so I'm having to replace the power supply myself. Having verified that the power supply is, in fact dead, I'm looking for a replacement. The ONLY big reseller I have been able to verify that sells these is CDW. I'd like to have some options. I did use Froogle, but most of the folks there are noname or ebay vendors... That's not necessarily something Id want to buy off ebay. :-) Wondering if any of you have a preferred vendor for something like this? I'll continue searching the web while waiting for a response. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ASA power supply
My CDW rep will almost always beat any price I can find someplace else. Dell as well. . Of course, we spend hundreds of thousands with each of them every year. I agree with Link, pick a vendor or two and get a good relationship going. If they are a little high on something, let them know it. If they can't budge, get them to help out on something the next time, but buy it anyway. Many times you can at least get free overnight shipping thrown in. If the vendor thinks you are apt to just run off and get the lowest cost item from another vendor, they are not going to spend much time trying to work up a quote and help you out. Also, buy TWO power supplies for your ASA and keep the other nearby. A mission critical piece of equipment like that should either have all the parts available, a second like item on a shelf ready for service, or a 4 hour service agreement. BF From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply Here's a rubric for all your future buying decisions. Take cost of a good quality/known vendor that you have a relationship with. Subtract the lowest price you can find buy typically googling around. If that result is less than the cost of downtime, great, buy from the preferred vendor. If that amount is greater than the cost of downtime, buy from the preferred vendor. In other words, I'm of the mind that having a good relationship with a quality vendor is worth more than trying to squeeze pennies and deal with unknowns. I have good relationship with my Dell and CDW reps. I typically review those options first, give alternatives a cursory glance, and then proceed with Dell and CDW. There are times I've been able to indicate to my rep I can get a better deal elsewhere, and I can wring a concession out of them. You can't do that unless you build a relationship. In the long run, the business runs more efficiently, which equals more $$$. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.commailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: The power supply in our ASA died overnight. Management doesn't believe in SmartNet, so I'm having to replace the power supply myself. Having verified that the power supply is, in fact dead, I'm looking for a replacement. The ONLY big reseller I have been able to verify that sells these is CDW. I'd like to have some options. I did use Froogle, but most of the folks there are noname or ebay vendors... That's not necessarily something Id want to buy off ebay. :-) Wondering if any of you have a preferred vendor for something like this? I'll continue searching the web while waiting for a response. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ASA power supply
Yeah. I talked with my boss about getting a second spare power supply. He agrees it is probably a good idea, but says right now, we just get one. He does like the idea, so he's not saying no, he's saying not right now. :D From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ASA power supply My CDW rep will almost always beat any price I can find someplace else. Dell as well. . Of course, we spend hundreds of thousands with each of them every year. I agree with Link, pick a vendor or two and get a good relationship going. If they are a little high on something, let them know it. If they cant budge, get them to help out on something the next time, but buy it anyway. Many times you can at least get free overnight shipping thrown in. If the vendor thinks you are apt to just run off and get the lowest cost item from another vendor, they are not going to spend much time trying to work up a quote and help you out. Also, buy TWO power supplies for your ASA and keep the other nearby. A mission critical piece of equipment like that should either have all the parts available, a second like item on a shelf ready for service, or a 4 hour service agreement. BF From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply Here's a rubric for all your future buying decisions. Take cost of a good quality/known vendor that you have a relationship with. Subtract the lowest price you can find buy typically googling around. If that result is less than the cost of downtime, great, buy from the preferred vendor. If that amount is greater than the cost of downtime, buy from the preferred vendor. In other words, I'm of the mind that having a good relationship with a quality vendor is worth more than trying to squeeze pennies and deal with unknowns. I have good relationship with my Dell and CDW reps. I typically review those options first, give alternatives a cursory glance, and then proceed with Dell and CDW. There are times I've been able to indicate to my rep I can get a better deal elsewhere, and I can wring a concession out of them. You can't do that unless you build a relationship. In the long run, the business runs more efficiently, which equals more $$$. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: The power supply in our ASA died overnight. Management doesn't believe in SmartNet, so I'm having to replace the power supply myself. Having verified that the power supply is, in fact dead, I'm looking for a replacement. The ONLY big reseller I have been able to verify that sells these is CDW. I'd like to have some options. I did use Froogle, but most of the folks there are noname or ebay vendors... That's not necessarily something Id want to buy off ebay. :-) Wondering if any of you have a preferred vendor for something like this? I'll continue searching the web while waiting for a response. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ASA power supply
He's saying 'not right now' in the hopes that you will forget to ask him later and when it goes out he will say You were supposed to remind me On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: Yeah. I talked with my boss about getting a second spare power supply. He agrees it is probably a good idea, but says right now, we just get one. He does like the idea, so he's not saying no, he's saying not right now. :D From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ASA power supply My CDW rep will almost always beat any price I can find someplace else. Dell as well. . Of course, we spend hundreds of thousands with each of them every year. I agree with Link, pick a vendor or two and get a good relationship going. If they are a little high on something, let them know it. If they can’t budge, get them to help out on something the next time, but buy it anyway. Many times you can at least get free overnight shipping thrown in. If the vendor thinks you are apt to just run off and get the lowest cost item from another vendor, they are not going to spend much time trying to work up a quote and help you out. Also, buy TWO power supplies for your ASA and keep the other nearby. A mission critical piece of equipment like that should either have all the parts available, a second like item on a shelf ready for service, or a 4 hour service agreement. BF From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply Here's a rubric for all your future buying decisions. Take cost of a good quality/known vendor that you have a relationship with. Subtract the lowest price you can find buy typically googling around. If that result is less than the cost of downtime, great, buy from the preferred vendor. If that amount is greater than the cost of downtime, buy from the preferred vendor. In other words, I'm of the mind that having a good relationship with a quality vendor is worth more than trying to squeeze pennies and deal with unknowns. I have good relationship with my Dell and CDW reps. I typically review those options first, give alternatives a cursory glance, and then proceed with Dell and CDW. There are times I've been able to indicate to my rep I can get a better deal elsewhere, and I can wring a concession out of them. You can't do that unless you build a relationship. In the long run, the business runs more efficiently, which equals more $$$. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: The power supply in our ASA died overnight. Management doesn't believe in SmartNet, so I'm having to replace the power supply myself. Having verified that the power supply is, in fact dead, I'm looking for a replacement. The ONLY big reseller I have been able to verify that sells these is CDW. I'd like to have some options. I did use Froogle, but most of the folks there are noname or ebay vendors... That's not necessarily something Id want to buy off ebay. :-) Wondering if any of you have a preferred vendor for something like this? I'll continue searching the web while waiting for a response. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ASA power supply
Heh… ☺ No, I think in this case, he actually means ask me again in 3-4 months. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply He's saying 'not right now' in the hopes that you will forget to ask him later and when it goes out he will say You were supposed to remind me On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Yeah. I talked with my boss about getting a second spare power supply. He agrees it is probably a good idea, but says right now, we just get one. He does like the idea, so he's not saying no, he's saying not right now. :D From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ASA power supply My CDW rep will almost always beat any price I can find someplace else. Dell as well. . Of course, we spend hundreds of thousands with each of them every year. I agree with Link, pick a vendor or two and get a good relationship going. If they are a little high on something, let them know it. If they can’t budge, get them to help out on something the next time, but buy it anyway. Many times you can at least get free overnight shipping thrown in. If the vendor thinks you are apt to just run off and get the lowest cost item from another vendor, they are not going to spend much time trying to work up a quote and help you out. Also, buy TWO power supplies for your ASA and keep the other nearby. A mission critical piece of equipment like that should either have all the parts available, a second like item on a shelf ready for service, or a 4 hour service agreement. BF From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply Here's a rubric for all your future buying decisions. Take cost of a good quality/known vendor that you have a relationship with. Subtract the lowest price you can find buy typically googling around. If that result is less than the cost of downtime, great, buy from the preferred vendor. If that amount is greater than the cost of downtime, buy from the preferred vendor. In other words, I'm of the mind that having a good relationship with a quality vendor is worth more than trying to squeeze pennies and deal with unknowns. I have good relationship with my Dell and CDW reps. I typically review those options first, give alternatives a cursory glance, and then proceed with Dell and CDW. There are times I've been able to indicate to my rep I can get a better deal elsewhere, and I can wring a concession out of them. You can't do that unless you build a relationship. In the long run, the business runs more efficiently, which equals more $$$. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: The power supply in our ASA died overnight. Management doesn't believe in SmartNet, so I'm having to replace the power supply myself. Having verified that the power supply is, in fact dead, I'm looking for a replacement. The ONLY big reseller I have been able to verify that sells these is CDW. I'd like to have some options. I did use Froogle, but most of the folks there are noname or ebay vendors... That's not necessarily something Id want to buy off ebay. :-) Wondering if any of you have a preferred vendor for something like this? I'll continue searching the web while waiting for a response. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read
Re: ASA power supply
Do you formulate an annual budget or just take things as they come? I ask, because my budget includes a contingency and amounts below $500 I have authority to just take care of without involving my boss. Your situation may be different, but it's something to push for if you want to grow within your org. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:02 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: Heh… ☺ No, I think in this case, he actually means ask me again in 3-4 months. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply He's saying 'not right now' in the hopes that you will forget to ask him later and when it goes out he will say You were supposed to remind me On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Yeah. I talked with my boss about getting a second spare power supply. He agrees it is probably a good idea, but says right now, we just get one. He does like the idea, so he's not saying no, he's saying not right now. :D From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ASA power supply My CDW rep will almost always beat any price I can find someplace else. Dell as well. . Of course, we spend hundreds of thousands with each of them every year. I agree with Link, pick a vendor or two and get a good relationship going. If they are a little high on something, let them know it. If they can’t budge, get them to help out on something the next time, but buy it anyway. Many times you can at least get free overnight shipping thrown in. If the vendor thinks you are apt to just run off and get the lowest cost item from another vendor, they are not going to spend much time trying to work up a quote and help you out. Also, buy TWO power supplies for your ASA and keep the other nearby. A mission critical piece of equipment like that should either have all the parts available, a second like item on a shelf ready for service, or a 4 hour service agreement. BF From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply Here's a rubric for all your future buying decisions. Take cost of a good quality/known vendor that you have a relationship with. Subtract the lowest price you can find buy typically googling around. If that result is less than the cost of downtime, great, buy from the preferred vendor. If that amount is greater than the cost of downtime, buy from the preferred vendor. In other words, I'm of the mind that having a good relationship with a quality vendor is worth more than trying to squeeze pennies and deal with unknowns. I have good relationship with my Dell and CDW reps. I typically review those options first, give alternatives a cursory glance, and then proceed with Dell and CDW. There are times I've been able to indicate to my rep I can get a better deal elsewhere, and I can wring a concession out of them. You can't do that unless you build a relationship. In the long run, the business runs more efficiently, which equals more $$$. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: The power supply in our ASA died overnight. Management doesn't believe in SmartNet, so I'm having to replace the power supply myself. Having verified that the power supply is, in fact dead, I'm looking for a replacement. The ONLY big reseller I have been able to verify that sells these is CDW. I'd like to have some options. I did use Froogle, but most of the folks there are noname or ebay vendors... That's not necessarily something Id want to buy off ebay. :-) Wondering if any of you have a preferred vendor for something like this? I'll continue searching the web while waiting for a response. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource
RE: ASA power supply
Well, right now there's NO budget for anything... But I do have a certain spending authority, but I choose to ask my boss for anything over around $100 or so. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply Do you formulate an annual budget or just take things as they come? I ask, because my budget includes a contingency and amounts below $500 I have authority to just take care of without involving my boss. Your situation may be different, but it's something to push for if you want to grow within your org. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:02 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Heh… ☺ No, I think in this case, he actually means ask me again in 3-4 months. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply He's saying 'not right now' in the hopes that you will forget to ask him later and when it goes out he will say You were supposed to remind me On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Yeah. I talked with my boss about getting a second spare power supply. He agrees it is probably a good idea, but says right now, we just get one. He does like the idea, so he's not saying no, he's saying not right now. :D From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ASA power supply My CDW rep will almost always beat any price I can find someplace else. Dell as well. . Of course, we spend hundreds of thousands with each of them every year. I agree with Link, pick a vendor or two and get a good relationship going. If they are a little high on something, let them know it. If they can’t budge, get them to help out on something the next time, but buy it anyway. Many times you can at least get free overnight shipping thrown in. If the vendor thinks you are apt to just run off and get the lowest cost item from another vendor, they are not going to spend much time trying to work up a quote and help you out. Also, buy TWO power supplies for your ASA and keep the other nearby. A mission critical piece of equipment like that should either have all the parts available, a second like item on a shelf ready for service, or a 4 hour service agreement. BF From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply Here's a rubric for all your future buying decisions. Take cost of a good quality/known vendor that you have a relationship with. Subtract the lowest price you can find buy typically googling around. If that result is less than the cost of downtime, great, buy from the preferred vendor. If that amount is greater than the cost of downtime, buy from the preferred vendor. In other words, I'm of the mind that having a good relationship with a quality vendor is worth more than trying to squeeze pennies and deal with unknowns. I have good relationship with my Dell and CDW reps. I typically review those options first, give alternatives a cursory glance, and then proceed with Dell and CDW. There are times I've been able to indicate to my rep I can get a better deal elsewhere, and I can wring a concession out of them. You can't do that unless you build a relationship. In the long run, the business runs more efficiently, which equals more $$$. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: The power supply in our ASA died overnight. Management doesn't believe in SmartNet, so I'm having to replace the power supply myself. Having verified that the power supply is, in fact dead, I'm looking for a replacement. The ONLY big reseller I have been able to verify that sells these is CDW. I'd like to have some options. I did use Froogle, but most of the folks there are noname or ebay vendors... That's not necessarily something Id want to buy off ebay. :-) Wondering if any of you have a preferred vendor for something like this? I'll continue searching the web while waiting for a response. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage
Re: ASA power supply
Are you familiar with the saying: It's better to ask for forgiveness than permission? This is a principle of management. You use the title, and apparently have been given the title by your organization. While you may not have authority over people, you still have responsibility for operational activity. You need to start taking action without requesting things from your boss within a certain degree of latitude. Instead begin informing him of action taken and why. Trouble is, you've established a pattern of behavior that will be difficult to overcome, and he now has expectations. You might want to consider having a discussion with him where you suggest that from this point on you will take action and just inform him of the result. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:38 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: Well, right now there's NO budget for anything... But I do have a certain spending authority, but I choose to ask my boss for anything over around $100 or so. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply Do you formulate an annual budget or just take things as they come? I ask, because my budget includes a contingency and amounts below $500 I have authority to just take care of without involving my boss. Your situation may be different, but it's something to push for if you want to grow within your org. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:02 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Heh… ☺ No, I think in this case, he actually means ask me again in 3-4 months. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply He's saying 'not right now' in the hopes that you will forget to ask him later and when it goes out he will say You were supposed to remind me On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Yeah. I talked with my boss about getting a second spare power supply. He agrees it is probably a good idea, but says right now, we just get one. He does like the idea, so he's not saying no, he's saying not right now. :D From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ASA power supply My CDW rep will almost always beat any price I can find someplace else. Dell as well. . Of course, we spend hundreds of thousands with each of them every year. I agree with Link, pick a vendor or two and get a good relationship going. If they are a little high on something, let them know it. If they can’t budge, get them to help out on something the next time, but buy it anyway. Many times you can at least get free overnight shipping thrown in. If the vendor thinks you are apt to just run off and get the lowest cost item from another vendor, they are not going to spend much time trying to work up a quote and help you out. Also, buy TWO power supplies for your ASA and keep the other nearby. A mission critical piece of equipment like that should either have all the parts available, a second like item on a shelf ready for service, or a 4 hour service agreement. BF From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASA power supply Here's a rubric for all your future buying decisions. Take cost of a good quality/known vendor that you have a relationship with. Subtract the lowest price you can find buy typically googling around. If that result is less than the cost of downtime, great, buy from the preferred vendor. If that amount is greater than the cost of downtime, buy from the preferred vendor. In other words, I'm of the mind that having a good relationship with a quality vendor is worth more than trying to squeeze pennies and deal with unknowns. I have good relationship with my Dell and CDW reps. I typically review those options first, give alternatives a cursory glance, and then proceed with Dell and CDW. There are times I've been able to indicate to my rep I can get a better deal elsewhere, and I can wring a concession out of them. You can't do that unless you build a relationship. In the long run, the business runs more efficiently, which equals more $$$. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: The power supply in our ASA died overnight. Management doesn't believe in SmartNet, so I'm having to replace the power supply myself. Having verified that the power supply is, in fact dead, I'm looking for a replacement. The ONLY big reseller I have been able to verify that sells these is CDW. I'd like to have some options. I did use Froogle, but most of the folks there are noname or ebay vendors... That's not necessarily something Id want to buy off ebay. :-) Wondering if any of you have
